Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-03 Thread Bob Crandell
Try vga = normal in the global section. Mr O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Here's an interesting one. Not sure if it's new or not. Upon removing my TV card from my computer and attempting to reboot, Lilo will only end up with 'L' and that takes quite some time to get to. I've booted a rescue disc,

Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-03 Thread Mr O
No bueno. That line already exsists in lilo.conf and there is nothing that shouldn't be there. If I run lilo with the TV card in I get no errors at all. Without the card I can't get into my system without a rescue CD. Any particular scripts that are called upon immediately at boot time when lilo

[eug-lug]Has anyone used a new larger than 137 GB hard disk w. Linux?

2003-06-03 Thread Rodney Mishima
I recently bought a 160 GB HD, and it uses the latest standard UDMA-6, ATA-133. It includes a PCI add on card, which supports the new standard for a family of OSes (not Linux). I tried a Google search and only found a few instances where folks encounterred problems, either not able to utilize

Re: [eug-lug] Has anyone used a new larger than 137 GB hard disk w.Linux?

2003-06-03 Thread Joseph Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 10:06:01AM -0700, Rodney Mishima wrote: I recently bought a 160 GB HD, and it uses the latest standard UDMA-6, ATA-133. hmm /dev/ide/host2/bus1/target0/lun0/part1 187G 118G 61G 67% /home That's

[eug-lug]burning MP3 CDs

2003-06-03 Thread Dave Wyatt
I have created a single MP3 music CD of a multi-CD set. I have tried everything I can think of to get the MP3 files to burn on an unsorted way. Even using a -path-list file with the MP3 files in the order I want them to be burnt does not work, the files are still sorted by filename in the mkisofs

Re: [eug-lug] Has anyone used a new larger than 137 GB hard disk w.Linux?

2003-06-03 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 10:06:01AM -0700, Rodney Mishima wrote: I recently bought a 160 GB HD, and it uses the latest standard UDMA-6, ATA-133. I have a 200gb wd ata 100 on a kt7a motherboard. Works fine. Plug and play. The motherboard bios had to be upgraded to support it, but that support

[eug-lug]ANNOUNCEMENT: June PLUG Meeting

2003-06-03 Thread David Mandel
MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT The Portland Linux/Unix Group will meet 7 PM Thursday June 5, 2003 at Portland State University

[eug-lug]Kucinich

2003-06-03 Thread E
http://www.kucinich.us/index.htm off topic, but nonetheless important __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [eug-lug]Kucinich

2003-06-03 Thread Ken Barber
On Monday 02 June 2003 11:46, E wrote: http://www.kucinich.us/index.htm off topic, but nonetheless important Yeah. DEFINITELY off-topic. I repeat my previous request: Can we please keep this list free of non-computer-related politics? Left-wing politics are offensive to me, and I would

Re: [eug-lug]burning MP3 CDs

2003-06-03 Thread Ralph Zeller
Maybe try something like: $x=0; for i in mp3/*; do let x=$x+1; echo $i $xsortlist; done; $less sortlist #does it look sorted right? $mkisofs -r -J --sort sortlist -o mymp3s.img mp3/* On 06/02/03 10am, Dave Wyatt wrote: I have created a single MP3 music CD of a multi-CD set. I have tried

Re: [eug-lug] Has anyone used a new larger than 137 GB hard disk w. Linux?

2003-06-03 Thread Rodney Mishima
Thanks Corey and Joseph for sharing with me your (successful) experiences with 137+ GB HDs. Your advice (upgrade system BIOS, if available, newer kernel, if needed, etc.) certainly points me in the right direction and; no doubt, saves me from multiple do overs. Rodney At 11:36 AM 6/2/2003

Re: [eug-lug] Has anyone used a new larger than 137 GB hard disk w.Linux?

2003-06-03 Thread Bob Miller
Rodney Mishima wrote: I recently bought a 160 GB HD, and it uses the latest standard UDMA-6, ATA-133. I'll echo Cory and Joseph: works for me. I have 200 Gb drives in two systems, both running 2.4.20 kernels. I'll also echo their advice: you need a kernel version 2.4.19 or newer. As for

Re: [eug-lug] Has anyone used a new larger than 137 GB hard disk w. Linux?

2003-06-03 Thread Rodney Mishima
At 12:59 PM 6/2/2003 -0700, you wrote: Rodney Mishima wrote: I recently bought a 160 GB HD, and it uses the latest standard UDMA-6, ATA-133. I'll echo Cory and Joseph: works for me. I have 200 Gb drives in two systems, both running 2.4.20 kernels. I'll also echo their advice: you need a kernel

Re: [eug-lug]burning MP3 CDs

2003-06-03 Thread Ralph Zeller
Or use a find statement, `find mp3/* -printf %p %TY%Tm%TH%TM%TS\n` On 06/02/03 01pm, Dave Wyatt wrote: It didn't quite come out correct, but this gets me in the right direction. A little tweaking and all should be good... Thanks. Dave --- Ralph Zeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe

[eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
I agree we should not be talking politics in this forum (it's all rigged anyways.) Preface: I read yesterday that AOL is partnering with M$ to settle the browser lawsuit. I suspect Mozilla will be toast in a few months. So I'm angry and want to get away from M$ as soon as possible. So here I

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 01:33:05PM -0700, BAGGAB wrote: Preface: I read yesterday that AOL is partnering with M$ to settle the browser lawsuit. I suspect Mozilla will be toast in a few months. So I'm angry and want to get away from M$ as soon as possible. So here I am, a Linux newbie with a

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread Linux Rocks !
Brian, First off... dont appologize for being a bonehead! Asking for help is some level of evidence that your not a complete bonehead! I dont have answers to your redhat questions, however I can strongly suggest using any other linux distro. Many newbies have lots of success with

Re: [eug-lug] Has anyone used a new larger than 137 GB hard disk w.Linux?

2003-06-03 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 01:16:37PM -0700, Rodney Mishima wrote: I have a 2+ year old box: an ABIT KT7A-RAID motherboard (disabled RAID functionality intentionally) with a 1.2 Ghz Athlon. This is the same board I have. Get the latest bios, and you will be fine. You probably already have the

RE: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
Cory Here is how I see it. Mozilla's development is really driven by the 100 or so full time programmers at Mozilla who get their paycheck from AOL. I don't want to slight the many other programmers who make contributions and the users who help debug it, but its the full timers who drive the

RE: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
Thanks Patrick I'm feeling a little better about it. How come I haven't had to do this in RH 6.1 or 7.2? I know there are distribution changes, but this seems strange to me. Can I get a second opinion on this and am I the only one using a dialup here? Brian -Original Message- From:

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread Kent Loobey
On Monday 02 June 2003 10:33 pm, BAGGAB wrote: I agree we should not be talking politics in this forum (it's all rigged anyways.) Preface: I read yesterday that AOL is partnering with M$ to settle the browser lawsuit. I suspect Mozilla will be toast in a few months. So I'm angry and want

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread Kent Loobey
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 12:27 am, BAGGAB wrote: Thanks Patrick I'm feeling a little better about it. How come I haven't had to do this in RH 6.1 or 7.2? I know there are distribution changes, but this seems strange to me. Can I get a second opinion on this and am I the only one using a

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread Bob Miller
BAGGAB wrote: Mozilla's development is really driven by the 100 or so full time programmers at Mozilla who get their paycheck from AOL. I don't want to slight the many other programmers who make contributions and the users who help debug it, but its the full timers who drive the bus. I feel

Re: [eug-lug](D|P)VR Software

2003-06-03 Thread Ben Barrett
Have not used XML-TV myself, but hear great things about it (although maybe building it is not always automagic?)... the 500MHz machine will handle a scaled recording, prolly about 1/2 NTSC. regards, BB -- I'm still waiting to build a dedicated mythtv box, can't play with that on my

Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-03 Thread Ben Barrett
So are your tv tuner drivers compiled in, or kernel modules? BB On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Mr O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | No bueno. That line already exsists in lilo.conf and there is | nothing that shouldn't be there. If I run lilo with the TV card | in I get no errors at all.

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Linux Rocks !
Brian, Well... if your priority is mainstream, then maybe you need Windows. As far as I can tell, redhat is the microsoft of the linux community. Ive spent a lot of time trying various linux's, and have found Mandrake to be far superior to RedHat, its actually based on redhat, but it

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Kent Loobey
On Monday 02 June 2003 11:01 am, Linux Rocks ! wrote: Brian, Well... if your priority is mainstream, then maybe you need Windows. As far as I can tell, redhat is the microsoft of the linux community. Ive spent a lot of time trying various linux's, and have found Mandrake to be far

RE: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
Thanks Jamie Maybe I should be considering another disrto. I've tried Mandrake and koppix, but I hear a lot of good buzz about Gentoo. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Linux Rocks ! Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:01 AM To: The Eugene

RE: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
Kent Are you using RH 8.0? Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent Loobey Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:31 AM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge On Tuesday 03

RE: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
Thanks Bob Your point about plan B is well taken. I will stick with Composer. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Miller Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:42 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re:

RE: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
Thanks, I have a copy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent Loobey Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:12 AM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH On Monday 02 June 2003 11:01 am,

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Linux Rocks !
Im thinking about trying gentoo also... now that I have the highspeed access its a doable thing (however I hear it will likelyt take about 20 hours to finsish the install as I have a slow CPU (550mhz). Jamie On Monday 02 June 2003 04:28 pm, BAGGAB wrote: : Thanks Jamie : : Maybe I should be

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Ben Barrett
While your post may be helpful to some, I have to disagree here, at least to some extent. Linux Rocks, as they say, and to compare RedHat to Microshaft is a Bad Idea, I think. To be specific, Linux Rocks, and Red Hat has brought linux to more people than any other distro (*), so why bad-mouth

RE: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
Well, 30 minutes into this and everyone has their favorite distro. I was ready to use Koppix 3.2, but it didn't work on the e-machine I have (system is loaded with RH 8.0 so its not like the last time - a bogus bios setting.) The e-machine is a piece of junk and I don't really use it; maybe I

RE: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
Can you elaborate on this. Can this be installed from a CD? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Linux Rocks ! Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:49 AM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-03 Thread Kent Loobey
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 01:29 am, BAGGAB wrote: Kent Are you using RH 8.0? I tried it. I am using Knoppix 3.2. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent Loobey Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:31 AM To: The Eugene Unix and

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Kent Loobey
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 02:03 am, BAGGAB wrote: Well, 30 minutes into this and everyone has their favorite distro. I was ready to use Koppix 3.2, but it didn't work on the e-machine I have (system is loaded with RH 8.0 so its not like the last time - a bogus bios setting.) The e-machine is

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Bob Miller
BAGGAB wrote: Maybe I should be considering another disrto. I've tried Mandrake and koppix, but I hear a lot of good buzz about Gentoo. I would say that Gentoo is for experts only at this point. (Maybe for a long time.) Only install Gentoo if you understand another distro or two inside and

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: (*) - I have no reference off-hand. Anyone? I'd be happy to find some figures if anyone's interested Various surveys show either RedHat or Debian on top. RedHat leads in the US and in corporate environments, and Debian leads in Europe and among hacker geeks. -- Bob

Re: [eug-lug] How much of the documentation on the Koppix 3.2 CD isin German

2003-06-03 Thread Bob Miller
BAGGAB wrote: I started moving around the CD and I am running into German. My German is rusty. I know I can view the initial info page in English, but how much of the rest of the CD is in German? Yow. If you have the English CD, almost all of it is translated. Maybe you got a German CD by

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Jim K
If I remember right your original problem involved kppp. I have not used Red Hat for a while but just remembered that it used to include something like wvdial or kwvdial accessable through kde and/or gnome. I am sorry I don't have access to Red Hat right now. You might not need the root

Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-03 Thread Mr O
I've removed the modules, no longer built in. Did my best to say there's no TV card but when the system starts it hangs big time. I'd like to figure this out so I can move the TV card to my other box and play around with the PVR/media box toys. --- Ben Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So are

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Mr O
Surely you'd like to see how much quicker you can do it on your new machine eh? Don't forget 'distcc' for splitting up the workload. It'll really help on the larger packages like Xfree86 and KDE. Mr O. --- Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BAGGAB wrote: Can you elaborate on this. Can

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using Gentoo

2003-06-03 Thread Mr O
20 hours to finish which part of the install? Plan a hell of a lot more time than that to have a system up with 'X'. And, Kbob, if Gentoo is for experts then why am I using it? :) I think it's just a matter of being a little more brave. I'm far from the level of mastery many of you fellow geeks

RE: [eug-lug] How much of the documentation on the Koppix 3.2 CD isinGerman

2003-06-03 Thread BAGGAB
I got this Koppix 3.2 at the LTSP presentation. I'm sure everything's o.k., I just need to play with it some more. I was just pressed for time and need to look around some more. Thanks for the info on Gentoo, its way out of my league. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [eug-lug] Has anyone used a new larger than 137 GB hard disk w.Linux?

2003-06-03 Thread Mr O
UDMA-6 isn't going to make a lick of difference over 5 if you're running a single drive. The 8Mb cache on that drive will be a nice boost though. Most PCI controller cards are at least recognized as just that, a controller card :) Dual booting on my 80GB isn't an issue with about 20GB for XP and

Re: [eug-lug] Has anyone used a new larger than 137 GB hard disk w.Linux?

2003-06-03 Thread Joseph Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 01:16:37PM -0700, Rodney Mishima wrote: What kind of motherboard do you have, and how old is it? I'm using an ASUS CUWE-RM, 2000 vintage (I think) and some kind of Intel Slot 1 board from 1998. I didn't have to upgrade the

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Kent Loobey
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 02:45 am, BAGGAB wrote: Kent Thanks for the offer. I was starting in a simple user mode, not root. That was my original problem. I have done some debating with myself about the distro issue and with the help of this group I have come to re-evaluate my choice of

Re: [eug-lug] How much of the documentation on the Koppix 3.2 CD isin German

2003-06-03 Thread Kent Loobey
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 03:13 am, BAGGAB wrote: I started moving around the CD and I am running into German. When you get the boot: prompt, press F2 and then type knoppix lang=us. After you get everything installed on hard disk and rebooted you can go into settings-ControlCenter and set any

Re: [eug-lug]Kucinich

2003-06-03 Thread Joseph Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 02:18:37PM -0700, justin bengtson wrote: http://www.kucinich.us/index.htm off topic, but nonetheless important hell yeah! i'll vote for that guy this year (if i vote at all...) You realise that he can't actually

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using Gentoo

2003-06-03 Thread dsoper
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 07:34:40PM -0700, Mr O wrote: 20 hours to finish which part of the install? Plan a hell of a lot more time than that to have a system up with 'X'. And, Kbob, if Gentoo is for experts then why am I using it? :) I think it's just a matter of being a little more brave.

Re: [eug-lug]Kucinich

2003-06-03 Thread dsoper
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 08:19:49PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: Do you really want someone who is dishonest, clueless, or dangerous in the office of the president? Hell, if I wanted that, I woulda voted for Dumbya. Cheers, Dennis -- Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives

[eug-lug]Regarding Off-Topic Stuff

2003-06-03 Thread Beaker (aka Jeff W)
Just thought I'd remind everyone that EUGLUG's Blog* is available for posting off-topic material: http://euglug.net/blogs * don't forget to enable cookies. -Beaker ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[eug-lug]Thanks for the update on Firewire and USB 2.0 functionality

2003-06-03 Thread Rodney Mishima
At 08:23 PM 6/2/2003 -0700, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 08:02:28PM -0700, Rodney Mishima wrote: From my experience, Firewire always works, even in Windows. It only mostly works in Linux. So, this is one of the very few arenas where Win is

Re: [eug-lug] Thanks for the update on Firewire and USB 2.0functionality

2003-06-03 Thread Joseph Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:03:47PM -0700, Rodney Mishima wrote: From my experience, Firewire always works, even in Windows. It only mostly works in Linux. So, this is one of the very few arenas where Win is better It's one of the areas where

Re: [eug-lug]Kucinich

2003-06-03 Thread E
I hesitate to even respond since I know that some people would rather off-topic posts be put somewhere else. Given that I put up with over a week of Matrix posts, I'd like to give a couple of cents, and then perhaps we should drop it, or maybe we should email eachother individually. Which

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Linux Rocks !
On Monday 02 June 2003 04:51 pm, Ben Barrett wrote: : While your post may be helpful to some, I have to disagree here, at : least to some extent. Linux Rocks, as they say, and to compare RedHat : to Microshaft is a Bad Idea OK why is it a bad idea ? I think. To be specific, Linux Rocks, and :

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using RH

2003-06-03 Thread Linux Rocks !
on #gentoo, I was told that with my machine, expect about 20 hours (much better than 2 weeks!) and the first part would be quick, after I reboot from the initial install, i shoud issue emerge -f system (I think thats what they said...) Jamie On Monday 02 June 2003 07:30 pm, Mr O wrote: :

Re: [eug-lug]Jamie, why I'm using Gentoo

2003-06-03 Thread Linux Rocks !
quit it... your much more of an expert than you claim... speciall when it comes to tweeking higher end video cards under x. Also.. youve used a fair number of distributions. Jamie On Monday 02 June 2003 07:34 pm, Mr O wrote: : 20 hours to finish which part of the install? Plan a hell of a :

Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-03 Thread Linux Rocks !
I have to say this is a curious one... Id like to hear how it is resolved! Another consideration is that theres some sort of odd IRQ thing happening (ie maybe the tuner is using an IRQ, and when removing it, some other device is getting the IRQ (or maybe even mem address?) and that is somehow

Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-03 Thread Mr O
No resolution yet. The one good thing about this machine is I can have a new kernel in under 5 minutes so I've been trying about everything kernel related as well as other files. I did find a very short thread in the Gentoo forums relating to part of my issues but there were no answers there

Re: [eug-lug]emerge -u sleep

2003-06-03 Thread Mr O
(-f) is only if you're borrowing broadband :) You'll want to start with emerge -up system to find out what you need then emerge -u system to get it. Once system is done and you've got time to spare then go for world. world will also pull in everything you need for system if you just want to get it

Re: [eug-lug]emerge -u sleep

2003-06-03 Thread Joseph Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 12:54:00AM -0700, Mr O wrote: (-f) is only if you're borrowing broadband :) You'll want to start with emerge -up system to find out what you need then emerge -u system to get it. Once system is done and you've got time to

Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-03 Thread Linux Rocks!
I wonder if using grub would help ? if its a lilo issue or not ? Mr O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No resolution yet. The one good thing about this machine is I can have a new kernel in under 5 minutes so I've been trying about everything kernel related as well as other files. I did find a very

Re: [eug-lug]emerge -u sleep

2003-06-03 Thread Linux Rocks!
Well... after yacking with some guys on #linux, it sounds like my old 550 will take more like a week to compile a full workstion... Im not that patient... I have to be able to use the computer also! so it looks like Ill try a fresh slackware 9 install in the morning. Jamie Mr O [EMAIL