On 6/19/20 7:31 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
In all this discussion...I don't think I saw using a car + small 4x8
or 5x8
utility trailer mentioned...
An excellent point, Haudy. A trailer is obviously a good work-around if
your car/truck can't handle what you need
Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
In all this discussion...I don't think I saw using a car + small 4x8 or 5x8
utility trailer mentioned...
An excellent point, Haudy. A trailer is obviously a good work-around if
your car/truck can't handle what you need to carry.
It's less desirable, for the
In all this discussion...I don't think I saw using a car + small 4x8 or 5x8
utility trailer mentioned. Torklift Ecohitches are available for Tesla
vehicles, Nissan Leafs, Toyota Priuses, and many other cars.
There is a *lot* you can do with a 2000 lb budget. 500 lb utility
trailer+1500 lbs load.
On 18 Jun 2020 at 11:45, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> Perhaps the problem is that the auto companies don't sell to end-users
> -- they sell to *dealers*. So the dealers dictate the features; what
> they want to sell; what gives them the highest profit margin.
I think that's a large part of it.
Willie via EV wrote:
BINGO! Vehicle buyers are generally VERY poorly served by the dealer
sales model.
A couple of decades ago, I thought I wanted a short cab long bed
Dodge/Cummins 3/4T pickup. Dealers referred to such as "work trucks".
Dealers had a lot of big cabs but no "work trucks" with
On 6/18/20 11:45 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
haul stuff. Monster luxury pickups don't make sense.
Perhaps the problem is that the auto companies don't sell to end-users
-- they sell to *dealers*. So the dealers dictate the features; what
they want to sell; what gives them the highest profit
Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Rather than have movable panels, wouldn't it be easier to just have a
deeper center channel.
Or, for crying out loud, a real 4'x8' bed? We've had small pickups and
minivans that can do this for 50+ years!
Plywood can be inserted vertically.
Yes; but drywall
M
Subject: Re: [EVDL] George's farm truck/van EV project
I was thinking about something along those lines. Maybe false floor, in
sections, that stores in the bed, but can be lifted up and fit into brackets on
the sides so that they are even with the top of the wheel wells. Store 2x4s,
etc. un
Just for fun here is a photo of one of the ways I've hauled lumber home
recently:
http://vanderwal.us/bike/Trailer_Lumber.jpg
for comparison here it is next to my old Nissan Frontier:
http://vanderwal.us/bike/TrikeTrailer.jpg
The Nissan's bed is actually 6" longer, but then again this is only
I was thinking about something along those lines. Maybe false floor, in
sections, that stores in the bed, but can be lifted up and fit into brackets on
the sides so that they are even with the top of the wheel wells. Store 2x4s,
etc. under the raised floor and 4x8 sheets on top.
> Gary,
Elon is apparently considering a couple options on the Cybertruck that would
make it more suitable for hauling 4x8 sheets.
One is a flipstop on the tailgate, another was suggested to him on twitter
recently and he seems to like the idea: make the rear window roll down into a
gate that can
On 17 Jun 2020 at 1:12, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Mercedes, Toyota, and Ford. The latter two probably have the best
> chance of meeting the hauling niche. Whether any of them actually do
> what is rumored, ...
Funny the reputation Mercedes has in the US. From my admittedly casual
exposure,
is rumored, ...
Peri
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When I first heard about the Tesla pickup (and before seeing what it was ) I
started thinking about what I’d want in an electric pickup that opens up
possibilities not available in an ICE. It would have a bed that could hold 4x8
plywood and an opening that would extend to the front that could
On 16 Jun 2020 at 23:59, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> So, if someone were to produce a long-range "useful"
> minivan at a "basic" price, that would be preferable.
You have choices! All you have to do is move to where the government
actually gives a fig about the environment - that is, just
Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
my odyssey 2000 minivan... holds 4 of 4x8 sheets flat on the floor with the
tail gate shut... I can even get a limited number of 12' boards inside with
the gate shut.
Right on point. I had an '87 and '92 Dodge minivans, and they could do
it. I had a 2002 VW Eurovan
van might be suitable.
Peri
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Cc: "Lee Hart"
Sent: 16-Jun-20 2:26:46 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] George's farm truck/van EV project
Willie via EV wrote:
On 6/16/20 3:12 P
My 99 odyssey will just barely take a sheet of plywood flat. If I pull the
front seats forward I can close the tailgate, but it’s cramped for my 6’2”
frame in the drivers seat.
-Steve
> On Jun 16, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
>
> Willie via EV wrote:
>>> On 6/16/20 3:12 PM,
Willie via EV wrote:
On 6/16/20 3:12 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Is it too late to change your design a bit ? If you can get one of the
dimensions 48" or more, then it is more useful in construction, for
hauling plywood, drywall, and other sheet items.
Perhaps they've made provision for
sion List"
> Cc: "Gary Krysztopik"
> Sent: 16-Jun-20 10:48:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] George's farm truck/van EV project
>
> >Lee - " track 58" x 120" wheelbase, cargo area 44" x 40" x 80". Pickup
> >truck or van, 1500lbs em
On 6/16/20 3:12 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Is it too late to change your design a bit ? If you can get one of the
dimensions 48" or more, then it is more useful in construction, for
hauling plywood, drywall, and other sheet items.
Perhaps they've made provision for loading 4'x8' sheets
icle Discussion List"
Cc: "Gary Krysztopik"
Sent: 16-Jun-20 10:48:36 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] George's farm truck/van EV project
Lee - " track 58" x 120" wheelbase, cargo area 44" x 40" x 80". Pickup
truck or van, 1500lbs empty with 1500 lbs
Lee - " track 58" x 120" wheelbase, cargo area 44" x 40" x 80". Pickup
truck or van, 1500lbs empty with 1500 lbs load."
I would say we need to change some laws instead of trying to conform to
something that doesn't makes sense.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:31 AM Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> Gary
Gary Krysztopik via EV wrote:
I am working on a small van with a few other guys. We were talking about
kits but not sure yet, maybe only turn-key. It is made in the USA,
high-power NEV/LSEV with 60 cu ft/1500 lb capacity. Multiple battery and
drive options. Attempting under $20K before
t"
> Cc: "Gary Krysztopik"
> Sent: 15-Jun-20 11:35:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] George's farm truck/van EV project
>
> >I am working on a small van with a few other guys. We were talking about
> >kits but not sure yet, maybe only turn-key. It is made in the U
Gary, it sounds interesting. Do you have any details to share ?
Peri
-- Original Message --
From: "Gary Krysztopik via EV"
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"
Cc: "Gary Krysztopik"
Sent: 15-Jun-20 11:35:45 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] George's farm truck
I am working on a small van with a few other guys. We were talking about
kits but not sure yet, maybe only turn-key. It is made in the USA,
high-power NEV/LSEV with 60 cu ft/1500 lb capacity. Multiple battery and
drive options. Attempting under $20K before incentives. Prototype roller
is
[ref
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/What-is-CCS-v-tp4697684p4697745.html
George Mullineaux via EV wrote: My wife hauls farm supplies with her vehicle
and will many times coordinate a trip to the grocery store at the same time.
With the rear seats folded away, I
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