Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer

2017-12-28 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
Leaf power level demands at 55 mph are easily 4 mi/kWh or 250 Wh/mi (or 13.75 kWh/55 miles at 55 mph). It would be awesome if Leaf energy consumption was as low as you mentioned but most owner experiences indicate otherwise. With your numbers a Leaf could easily do 150 miles. Many owners get

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
gt; an > Ultravan and > put 3kw on the roof. Less range but cleaner. Probably be able run 20 miles > an > hour infinitely. > A purpose built vehicle would be best. Lawrence Rhodes > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: &l

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer

2017-12-28 Thread Michael Ross via EV
Nice summary. The item "receiving 100 watts per square meter" is tricky. On a clear day with the sun over head you may see 1300W/m^2. But more usual is 1100 or 1000. Could be 200W/m^2 with clouds or heavy weather. And the sun, unfortunately does not stay directly in front of a mobile array no

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer

2017-12-28 Thread ROBERT via EV
What? To maintain a small car like a Leaf at 55 MPH only requires about 10 - 12 HP. This is only 7.5 KW (10HP) - 8.9 KW (12HP). The battery in the Leaf is rated at 30 KW-Hr. At 55 MPH it does not require all the power in the battery (30KW-Hr). It only requires 7.5KW-Hr - 8.9 KW-Hr to

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer

2017-12-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Marc, Iam afraid you are not making the Leaf specification situation better. When Lawrence says he has a 30kW battery, he means 30 kWh. That is a 2016 Leaf with the improved battery (normal was 24 kWh). All Leafs have a 90 kW rating IIRC, meaning that they can accelerate with the motor producing

[EVDL] Fort Stockton, TX Supercharger (coming, permit applied for)

2017-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ot-EVLN-EV-newswire-status-tp4688916p4688971.html ] On 20171226- I stopped by and asked the Fairfield Inn rep about a Tesla supercharger being installed at their business. She sez (unofficially) their management is interested,

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer

2017-12-28 Thread Marc de Piolenc via EV
You're getting power and energy mixed up. Your Leaf has a POWER rating of 30 kW, which means that (at full power) it consumes 30 kW-hours of energy per hour. It does not get 4.5 miles per kW because a kilowatt is a unit of power, not energy - maybe 4.5 miles per kWh which is roughly consonant

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20171223

2017-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Hyderabad-in-Electric-taxis-for-women-driven-by-women-Ford-moving-Koch-Attack-tp4688999.html EVLN: Hyderabad.in Electric taxis for women, driven by women (+Ford moving,Koch-Attack) As part of this, charging stations will be set up

[EVDL] EVLN: Hyderabad.in Electric taxis for women, driven by women (+Ford moving, Koch-Attack)

2017-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://telanganatoday.com/electric-taxis-in-hyderabad-for-women-by-women Electric taxis in Hyderabad for women, by women 26th Dec 2017 B. Krishna Mohan [image https://cdn.telanganatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/electric-vehicles.jpg Electric taxis Vehicles Representational Image ]

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
paul dove via EV wrote: The batteries are part of the car since it won't go without them.. so 2300 lbs? That's pretty light but not enough to go 217 miles on a charge. 26KWh / 217 = 120Wh/m They had to have done something else. Lots of "something elses". Good aerodynamics. Low frontal

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
but cleaner.  Probably be able run 20 miles an hour infinitely. A purpose built vehicle would be best.  Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20171228/ca617462/attachment.h

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread ROBERT via EV
panel then you need to have one hour of charging to go that mile. David D Nelson -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20171228/04cee5db/attachment.html> _

Re: [EVDL] "You Betcha!" (ot): EVLN EV newswire status ...

2017-12-28 Thread Gail Lucas via EV
Bruce, What an awful situation. I hope you won't give up after all the planning and expense you have gone to this far. There must be an organization that can help you with this. Wouldn't the VA have paperwork that would show your citizenship? What about a new SS card from:

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
paul dove wrote: From what I read it weighed over 3000 lbs. That is not light weight. The GVWR was about 3000 lbs, but that includes the car itself, batteries, and a full load of passengers and luggage. The cars themselves varied from 1400 to 1600 lbs, depending on how much "fluff" was

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread paul dove via EV
From what I read it weighed over 3000 lbs. That is not light weight. My celica weighed 2900 lbs after I converted it. It did have a 26kwh battery so that’s 30% more than mine. They must have done something else to get the efficiency to go 200 miles on a charge. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Dec 2017 at 5:05, ROBERT via EV wrote: > I do not know who does your math. The email states "Leaf gets 4.5 miles per > kw at 55mph more or less depending on wind." Therefore, 1000 W / 4.5 miles = > 222 W per mile. This appears to be a little low to me. However, if it is > accurate, you

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread David Nelson via EV
On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:05 PM, ROBERT via EV wrote: > I do not know who does your math. The email states "Leaf gets 4.5 miles per > kw at 55mph more or less depending on wind." Therefore, 1000 W / 4.5 miles = > 222 W per mile. This appears to be a little low to me.

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Alan Arrison via EV wrote: I'll tell you, like many others have, again... it can't be done. Lawrence (and fellow EVers), It's not that it can't be done. It just can't be done with the same old thinking that led to our present way of building cars. Modern cars are massively heavy and

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-28 Thread Brett Davis via EV
enthusiast Clyde Visser, is an active and vital source of information > and help for people ... > > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > EV -- Electric Vehicle Discussion List - lists.evdl.org ...< > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org> > lists.e

Re: [EVDL] "You Betcha!" (ot): EVLN EV newswire status ...

2017-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
EVLN news status: the EV news items all but have dried up/reduced to a trickle during the holidays. That Musk piece sums up how despondent the media is right now about plugins. Which is great for the ton of h2 items (still pushing fcvs). My status: stable (I have lodging) but worrisome (I'm not

[EVDL] EVLN: Musk sums up 2017 and expresses the challenge for 2018

2017-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Elon Musk brilliantly sums up sad state of 2017 https://www.cnet.com/news/elon-musk-sums-up-2017/ December 24, 2017 Chris Matyszczyk [image https://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/img/XcZPSWTTOEOLh309kCfBeSmwMOM=/670x503/2017/12/24/0e6765fc-c29e-41f6-9141-b3d32b8cf2ee/gettyimages-855370074-2.jpg What