From what I read it weighed over 3000 lbs. That is not light weight.

My celica weighed 2900 lbs after I converted it.

It did have a 26kwh battery so that’s 30% more than mine.

They must have done something else to get the efficiency to go 200 miles on a 

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> On Dec 28, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lee Hart via EV <> wrote:
> Alan Arrison via EV wrote:
>> I'll tell you, like many others have, again... it can't be done.
> Lawrence (and fellow EVers),
> It's not that it can't be done. It just can't be done with the same old 
> thinking that led to our present way of building cars.
> Modern cars are massively heavy and inefficient. Their "aerodynamics" are 
> designed by stylists for looks; not engineers for performance. They are built 
> like ironclad battleships; not airplanes. Their heating and cooling systems 
> are big enough to heat or cool a small apartment. This means they need a huge 
> amount of power to do the job. With gasoline or diesel; no problem. We've got 
> "plenty" -- just burn all you need.
> The EVs produced by the big auto companies are still taking this "massive 
> overkill" approach. Their cars are all steel, ridiculously heavy, and have 
> pitiful aerodynamics. There's no insulation to help their heating and cooling 
> sytems. So they need expensive, heavy battery packs, and their KWH/mile is 
> poor.
> Electric cars require an entirely different approach. You can't make a pig 
> fly; but you *can* make a bird fly.
> There have been hundreds of solar-powered cars that *do* run on sunlight 
> alone. They have travelled at freeway speeds, and covered hundreds of miles a 
> day. But they are built more like airplanes than cars. Light weight and 
> efficiency are designed in right from the start. Styling and comfort take a 
> back seat to light weight and efficiency.
> For decades, Amory Lovins has championed his "hypercar" concept. Make the car 
> half the weight, and you double its efficiency. Improve its aerodynamics, and 
> you double it again. With modern high-strength materials and manufacturing 
> techniques, it can still be just as strong and safe. With high-tech 
> electronics, you can drastically reduce the power needed for creature 
> comforts.
> James Worden built the Solectria Sunrise EV using these techniques. Over 20 
> years ago, he had a 4-passenger car with all the usual amenities that could 
> go over 300 miles on a charge, weighed only 1600 lbs and still passed crash 
> standards. And that was without lithium batteries; with today's batteries, it 
> would have twice the range.
> I've been struggling for years to produce a new version of the Sunrise. 
> Sadly, I haven't been able to do it. I don't have the resources by myself, 
> and the market simply does not want it.
> -- 
> "Verschlimmbessern" (German, verb) - To make something worse by
> trying to improve it. (English translation: "Microsoft"?)
> --
> Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377,
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