Re: [EVDL] Join Home Electrification on Nextdoor

2021-12-03 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 3 Dec 2021 at 16:59, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > How do you do the freon by DIY? >From what I've read, illegally. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt

Re: [EVDL] Join Home Electrification on Nextdoor

2021-12-03 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 2 Dec 2021 at 22:47, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > We have a gas clothes dryer as that freed up the 30A circuit to power > a Level 2 charging station (see, this post is still on-topic) also > because our house connection is only 100A, so we need to be efficient > with our electricity.

Re: [EVDL] Join Home Electrification on Nextdoor

2021-12-04 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 4 Dec 2021 at 18:03, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > But it would seem that th length of the lines will make a difference > in the degree of charging. I'm not an expert, but when I looked into splits for my home about 8 years ago, I read that the charge did indeed have to be adjusted for

Re: [EVDL] 24 FET Nucular controller, Revolt 160 Esm motor

2021-12-18 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 18 Dec 2021 at 23:26, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Friend having a little difficulty with this combination of motor and > controller. Advice is appreciated. It's actually called a "Nucular" controller? Was it designed by George Bush? Seriously, I think that you or your friend will need

Re: [EVDL] 24 FET Nucular controller, Revolt 160 Esm motor

2021-12-19 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 19 Dec 2021 at 18:50, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: > For David: apparently there is a company making EV controllers called > "Nucular" https://nucular.tech/ However, I don't know what relatioship they > have with Mr Bush. Interesting! I's a curious name. Are they having a little fun

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y actual wall outlet efficiency

2021-12-30 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Mark, I'd say your Tesla is doing pretty darn well for such a portly vehicle. Over 2 tons! Yikes. Some carefully designed conversions have managed outstanding efficiency. James Worden of Solectria was obsessive about it, and Forces (Geo Metro conversions) routinely got 150-180 Wh/mi when

[EVDL] EVLN: In November EU EVs+true-hybrids outsold Diesels

2021-12-20 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
This is pretty impressive. Across the EU in November, 26% of new vehicle sales were BEVs and true hybrids. OVER ONE-QUARTER. That by itself is gratifying. But even better - BEVs and true hybrids outsold Diesel vehicles (18%). November EU top sellers were all pure BEVs: 10,739 Tesla 3

Re: [EVDL] Regen toll (was: Tesla Y actual wall outlet efficiency)

2022-01-04 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 4 Jan 2022 at 1:55, Otmar via EV wrote: > ItTMs such a treat to get to live through this transition to sustainable > transportation for everyone and also get back to the lead foot of my youth. Well, I don't know that I'd say "sustainable transportation," but EVs definitely move us closer to

Re: [EVDL] speaking of range estimation

2021-12-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 21 Dec 2021 at 18:05, paul dove via EV wrote: > Do you drive an ICE this way? That's my thought too. I do fine in an ICEV with a gas gauge. And in an EV I'm totally happy if I know the percent of charge remaining. I can see where it is and how fast it's falling, and adjust my driving to

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y actual wall outlet efficiency

2022-01-03 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 3 Jan 2022 at 12:09, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > The cool thing about an efficient EV powertrain is regen can give you a lot of > this back when you go back down the hill! For decades EV hobbyists dismissed regen as not worth the extra effort to implement. "Just add another battery or two,"

Re: [EVDL] Regen toll (was: Tesla Y actual wall outlet efficiency)

2022-01-04 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 4 Jan 2022 at 22:40, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > Whatever the drivetrain losses, they at least double when you > regeneratively brake. I see your point, but I think it's a bit academic. Assuming your 85% efficiency number, you aren't losing 30% on regen, you're losing 15%. You've already

[EVDL] Bolt EUV: Green Car Journal award

2021-11-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
2022 Chevy Bolt EUV Wins Urban Green Car Of The Year Award The Chevy Bolt EUV was up against stiff competition for the 2022 Urban Green Car of the Year Award, including the Hyundai Kona Electric, Hyundai Venue, Kia Seltos and MINI Cooper SE ... A new addition to the Chevy lineup for 2022, the

Re: [EVDL] Electric Circuit charging in Canada

2021-11-18 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 18 Nov 2021 at 5:21, Steves via EV wrote: > I donTMt think I have ever run across a broken station [in Quebec province]. That's welcome news. As the song says, the plural of anecdote is not data, but in 2016 a friend brought back some EV photos from a Vancouver visit. There were several

Re: [EVDL] What type of magic is this nut and where to get a tool for it?

2021-11-19 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 19 Nov 2021 at 14:28, Cal Frye via EV wrote: > Pin punch and a light hammer? Might work. Another thought - I've never tried such a thing, but I wonder if you could spot-weld larger sacrificial hex nuts to the top of the security nuts. I suppose that might be hazardous with the possibility

Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] Sandy Munroe buys first Skywell Chinese NA spec EV(for evaluation and disassembly) and explains why the big

2021-11-25 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Well, that was 45 minutes of snooze for info that could have been presented in a 10-minute-read web page. Thank goodness for the skip button. Where to start? I'm not an economics expert but I'm not convinced that Munroe is either. Xi Jinping (now effectively emperor) does seem to want EVs

Re: [EVDL] What type of magic is this nut and where to get a tool for it?

2021-11-20 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 20 Nov 2021 at 0:47, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > They still seem to have 10% residual voltage after ~6 years neglect > (no charging). As you probably know, for NiCd, that's not really neglect. They don't need to be kept charged, and are quite happy stored at 0% SOC. In fact some

Re: [EVDL] EV album down?

2021-11-16 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Glad to hear it! Thanks to you and Aaron for keeping the album going. It's a valuable resource. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] badly discharged AGM battery advice

2021-12-07 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
A 12v battery is considered flat when its open circuit voltage is 11.8 volts. Since yours were at ~5 volts, it's fairly likely that you've reversed some cells. That's most definitely not good. Still, you might get lucky, and it can't hurt to give them a long, slow equalizing charge. Cycle

[EVDL] EVLN: Here come the Chinese BEVs

2021-12-13 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
At least if you live in Europe. In November of 2021, 23% of new vehicle registrations in France were either BEVs or true hybrids. Of that share, 57% were BEVs. For 2021 to date, BEVs and true hybrid are at 18% of the market there. That's newsworthy for sure, but IMO, the story below "buries

Re: [EVDL] Solid State Batteries differences

2021-12-13 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 13 Dec 2021 at 17:15, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > If the current price were half that of electrolyte cells, then double > the energy density would be a wash on overall cost. Of course, there are other > factors. Except that that's not what's doubled. It's the specific energy in Wh/KG

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 2013 Ghost Loads on 12V battery

2021-12-10 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 10 Dec 2021 at 10:33, Ken Olum via EV wrote: > ... the software turns on the HV system periodically to charge the > house battery. This seems even less safe than having it always, for > example if someone is working on the car when the HV system turns on > unexpectedly. I think I recall

Re: [EVDL] CPUC meeting via the web. Concerning expensive fees to kill solar.

2022-01-05 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 5 Jan 2022 at 20:00, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > I will disconnect from the grid and get batteries. Wouldn't blame you, but can you actually do that? I vaguely recall reading years ago that once your house is connected, at least some utilities can legally force you to stay. My memory

[EVDL] LIST BUSINESS - addresses - please read (short)

2022-01-05 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I had to reject a couple of messages today because non-list email addresses were in the CC and/or TO fields. Sorry, but would you want someone revealing your email address to 650 people you don't know? I thought not. Therefore, please don't do that. Address EV list messages TO

[EVDL] EVLN: Fiat hops in bed with Amazon

2022-01-05 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I wonder which one will lie back and think of England. Rivian may still supply some EVs to Amazon. But they will not be an exclusive supplier. Amazon are also buying more of the "Stellantis" (Fiat) trucks that their drivers report regularly fail them (Fix It Again, Tony) - except that

Re: [EVDL] vw & toyota rapidly embracing EVs

2022-01-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Jan 2022 at 19:38, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote: > If/when Tesla actually opens up the US Supercharging network to EVs from > other manufacturers will be a very telling point, as then any compatible EV > will also have long range road trip capabilities, meaning a Tesla vehicle is > no longer

Re: [EVDL] vw & toyota rapidly embracing EVs

2022-01-10 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 10 Jan 2022 at 20:57, paul dove via EV wrote: > This will only work if people buy their product. Correct. Toyota is very very late to the EV game. I'm not convinced that they'll ever catch up, but I could be wrong. (There's also the fact that Toyota build the most hideous-looking cars

Re: [EVDL] vw & toyota rapidly embracing EVs

2022-01-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Jan 2022 at 16:46, paul dove via EV wrote: > the competition is non-existent. Elon Musk seems to think that too. If all you pay attention to is the US market, it's true. In Europe, not so much. And Europe, not here, is where the future growth of EVs lies. Tesla makes very nice

Re: [EVDL] vw & toyota rapidly embracing EVs

2022-01-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Jan 2022 at 15:53, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > Which is where the rumored Model 2 comes in. How fast do you think they can get it to market? The competition isn't sitting there waiting for them, and Tesla doesn't have a great record of meeting their own development schedules. The EU

Re: [EVDL] Request Tesla crash data

2022-02-10 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
> On 2/8/2022 10:21 PM, nathan christiansn via EV wrote: > > It is not the government's job to regulate an optional feature on > > any vehicle. On 9 Feb 2022 at 22:39, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > It most certainly is! Especially if it could be potentially dangerous. > Yeah, that's kind of the

Re: [EVDL] $7.5bn for ev charging stations across the US

2022-02-13 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 13 Feb 2022 at 13:08, paul dove via EV wrote: > Explicit subsidies accounted for only 8 percent of the total. The > remaining 92 percent were implicit subsidies What a load of hooey. It's all money. It's all corporate welfare - socialism for the rich. What the freak are you doing

Re: [EVDL] $7.5b for new EV charge stations across US

2022-02-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Feb 2022 at 17:09, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > States are getting the go-ahead to build a nationwide network of > electric vehicle charging stations that would place new or upgraded ones every > 50 miles along interstate highways as part of the Biden administrationTMs > plan to spur

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Ukraine war and nickel

2022-03-13 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 13 Mar 2022 at 10:59, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > I suppose this explains a lot about why Tesla (and Straubel) are leaning > hard towards LiFePO. Nickel and manganese, etc., are a problem? Don't use > them. LFP has been (and I think still is) markedly lower in both energy density and

Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX

2022-03-08 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 8 Mar 2022 at 18:18, paul dove via EV wrote: > 166wh sounds like hype That kind of efficiency is quite possible for a fairly light conventional vehicle at low to moderate speeds. Solectria Forces managed about 150 wh/mi in 35-45mph suburban driving. But those were simple cars. When you

Re: [EVDL] 2013-2015 Nissan Leaf recalled for braking problem, 46, 000 vehicles affected

2022-03-08 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I'm pretty sure that Cor is right; safety recalls don't expire, although I've read that the manufacturer can challenge the requirement if the vehicle is more than 15 years old. Do I recall right that your Leaf's VIN was NOT listed as one to which that recall applied? If that's true, then you

[EVDL] EVLN: Ukraine war and nickel

2022-03-12 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
"The rollout of solar panels and wind turbines is unlikely to be hampered by supply problems caused by the war in Ukraine, but the production of electric cars could take a hit ..." https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/solar-and-wind-rollout-doesnt-depend-

Re: [EVDL] 2013-2015 Nissan Leaf recalled for braking problem, 46, 000 vehicles affected

2022-02-23 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 23 Feb 2022 at 19:40, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > The Roanoke Va PeterTMs creek rd Nissan dealer says ITMd have to > pay for this since itTMs no longer a recall (about $1k). Sounds like BS to > me. I'm not an expert on these matters, but as I understand it, "no longer a recall" isn't a

Re: [EVDL] Semaconnect $2 per Kwh!

2022-02-23 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 23 Feb 2022 at 20:23, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > Level 2 Semaconnect charging station thatTMs showing $120 for > 60KWH ! Ouch. As if. At least they warned you before you connected. They did, yes? I guess Semaconnect's brass have been listening to all those reactionary anti-EV

Re: [EVDL] X-Bus

2022-02-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I like the multiple body formats concept. They seem to suggest that one can be field-converted into another though it's perhaps not trivial. Battery modularity is a fine idea. However the maximum battery capacity of 30 kWh is not very much by today's standards. "Range per kWh approx. 20 km."

Re: [EVDL] 2013-2015 Nissan Leaf recalled for braking

2022-02-24 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 24 Feb 2022 at 20:43, mark hanson via EV wrote: > I put the VIN number in to your recommended link and it does *not* come up as > a recall for the 46K Leaf cold brake failures *but* my 2013 Leaf has the exact > problem described You might try calling Nissan's customer service people at 800

Re: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf 2013 dim headlights at 14V

2022-02-24 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 24 Feb 2022 at 13:26, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... Sigh. See below. For anyone interested, I've just started investigating it, but it looks as if Claws Mail does a good job of handling incoming html mail, while flatly refusing to ever send html mail

Re: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf 2013 dim headlights at 14V

2022-02-24 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 24 Feb 2022 at 18:22, Roger Stockton via EV wrote: > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... For those who don't have their list passwords, and don't want to go to the trouble of fetching them, here's Roger's message, sprung from html jail: The (2013) Leaf uses halogen bulbs, but runs the 12V

[EVDL] Anyone know James Jarrett in Charlotte?

2022-02-18 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I wonder if anyone on the list knows James Jarrett of Charlotte NC, owner (formerly? currently?) of a Henney Kilowatt. The Kilowatt was a commercial Renault Dauphine conversion offered in 1959 and 1960, and possibly even as late as 1962. I've been trying to track down the different versions of

Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] Car carrier on fire abandoned in Atlantic

2022-02-18 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 19 Feb 2022 at 15:39, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > statistically, ICE cars catch fire _far_ more frequently than electric > cars. Is that by numbers or by percentages? Do you have any numbers? I have no clue what the percentage might be. Obviously there are still a lot more ICEVs on the

Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] Car carrier on fire abandoned in Atlantic

2022-02-18 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I already get a lot of hits on the search term "felicity ace." A *lot*. As usual it's hard to tell which are spammy content farms copying and pasting each other, and which have valid original reporting, so I can't warrant anything that follows. This first piece cites "the captain of the

Re: [EVDL] The electric future of snowmobiling

2022-02-28 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 28 Feb 2022 at 10:25, jim--- via EV wrote: > The louder the better - both engine noise and stereo. Some boys just never seem to outgrow their love of making a racket, do they? Their noisy toys just get bigger and louder and more expensive. :-\ The problem is that the noise that they love,

Re: [EVDL] The electric future of snowmobiling

2022-02-28 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 28 Feb 2022 at 16:35, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Taiga snowmobiles start at about $17,490 Perhaps they, or someone here, could tell me how that compares with an ICE snowmobile's cost. I haven't a clue. Oh wait, I see later on: > the company estimates that its electric snowmobiles are

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Don't run out of charge in Russia

2022-02-28 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 28 Feb 2022 at 20:03, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/02/after-ukraine-recruits-an-it- > army-dozens-of-russian-sites-go-dark Shortcut URL, in case that's broken: https://v.gd/3rukZJ David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach

Re: [EVDL] LOUD (was: snowmobiling)

2022-02-28 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 1 Mar 2022 at 13:47, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > "Do you want to make noise, or do you want to win races and set world > records? I'd rather set world records." > > This pretty much ends the discussion, because it points out the > foolishness of the loud exhaust argument. Says the gentleman

[EVDL] EVLN: Don't run out of charge in Russia

2022-02-28 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/02/after-ukraine-recruits-an-it- army-dozens-of-russian-sites-go-dark A FB post from Russian energy company Rosseti has announced that electric vehicle charging stations in Russia have stopped working. The Ukrainian company that provided controllers

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Roanoke, VA to Florida Keys - self driving glitches/twitches

2022-02-23 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Thanks for the report, Mark. That's quite interesting, and I think that your conclusion is a sensible one. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] $7.5bn for ev charging stations across the US

2022-02-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Feb 2022 at 15:04, nathan christiansn via EV wrote: > The only problem that I see with this is that the government is making > people who do not support EVs pay for ev charging. Yep. And even though I don't have any kids, the gubmint makes me pay taxes so that all those grubby

Re: [EVDL] $7.5bn for ev charging stations across the US

2022-02-12 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 12 Feb 2022 at 14:25, Willie McKemie via EV wrote: > Tesla's goal is to hasten the adoption electric vehicles. So Musk says, or at least he used to. > The others goal is to delay adoption. That's unquestionably true in the US. In Europe, nope. The automakers aren't stupid. Western

Re: [EVDL] $7.5bn for ev charging stations across the US

2022-02-12 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 12 Feb 2022 at 8:24, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > The slowness and lack of responsiveness of the utilities in California > have been a big issue in trying to deploy the technology. You younguns weren't around then, but we crusty curmudgeons remember a half century and more back, when the

Re: [EVDL] $7.5bn for ev charging stations across the US

2022-02-12 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 12 Feb 2022 at 13:37, paul dove via EV wrote: > They should reimburse Tesla for their charging network if they're > gonna put chargers in for all the other companies   I don't see why. Tesla chose to bundle the cost of their exclusive, private, proprietary charging into the $100k price of

Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] Car carrier on fire abandoned in Atlantic

2022-02-18 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 18 Feb 2022 at 9:07, jim--- via EV wrote: > Unfortunately, that link requires an account to read. It's working for me, and I don't have an account. Here you go. I wouldn't want to speculate on how many, if any, are EVs. But AFAIK the only EV that Volkswagen currently offers in the US is

Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] Car carrier on fire abandoned in Atlantic

2022-02-18 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 18 Feb 2022 at 12:52, Willie via EV wrote: > It appears the fire could have come from VW or Porsche EVs. I'd forgotten about the Porsche Taycan. That's a possibility. However, I see nothing in either story that indicates whether any EVs are in the shipment, much less blaming them for

Re: [EVDL] kWh versus charging temperature

2022-04-04 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 4 Apr 2022 at 14:19, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > How many kWh is W3 ? Sorry, I don't know. Why not try an experiment with a laptop? Laptop batteries have built in BMSes, which usually track the Wh into and out of the battery, passing that info on to the OS. They're easily chilled in

Re: [EVDL] kWh versus charging temperature

2022-04-03 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 4 Apr 2022 at 4:54, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Anyway, no one has yet addressed whether my hypothesis is true or not: > if you charge while the battery is warm, it will still be able to > deliver all the kWh even when the battery has become cold (though at a > slower rate). > And I'm not

Re: [EVDL] Need to find a blocking diode for charger output

2022-03-20 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 20 Mar 2022 at 13:52, David Nelson via EV wrote: > I first thought that I could install a NO relay with an AC coil which > would close when the AC cord was plugged in and so ordered one. Then I > thought I better see if there is any arcing when connecting the > charger to the battery pack.

Re: [EVDL] Need to find a blocking diode for charger output

2022-03-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 20 Mar 2022 at 21:31, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Why are you unplugging the charger? > Typical Li-Ion chargers or BMS will shut off the power into the > battery when max level is reached. Not to speak for Mr Nelso, and maybe I'm minunderstanding or misinterpreting him, but but here is

Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-01 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 1 Feb 2022 at 17:36, paul dove via EV wrote: > Dangerous trend to me. Why should your car make you follow the law? Would you really want your car to cause you to BREAK the law? Because that's what Tesla's rolling stop is doing. This "feature" hardly surprising from Elon Musk, who's

Re: [EVDL] OT: US traffic controls (was: tesla's sneaky rolling stops)

2022-02-02 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 1 Feb 2022 at 22:01, jim--- via EV wrote: > Absolutely hate traffic circles... > They work fine if there is very low traffic, but if there is lots of traffic, > they are horrible... I hear that from a lot of folks. I've done some driving in France where roundabouts are very common. Most

Re: [EVDL] Is the EVtradingpost dead?

2022-02-02 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 2 Feb 2022 at 21:27, Ed Thorpe via EV wrote: > A couple weeks ago I was checking on some EVs for sale on the EV > trading post, and had no problems with the site. Really? As far as I know, it's been shut down since autumn of 2018. I hadn't heard that it was back up. I think it was / is

Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-03 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 3 Feb 2022 at 7:27, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > You didn't answer the question, you just re-iterated that they shouldn't be > allowed to be done by an advanced AI system with far better observation > capabilities than a human. > > Why shouldn't an AI be allowed to do them? Completely aside

Re: [EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-04 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 4 Feb 2022 at 19:16, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > I just want real numbers, not conjecture*. I don't see conjecture here. The Tesla computer didn't record it, but human witnesses were there, and THEY did. > Not saying the comments are wrong, just that it sounds like BS. And it > does. The

Re: [EVDL] video: World's largest lithium company mass producing solid state batteries

2022-01-26 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 26 Jan 2022 at 20:28, Paul Wujek via EV wrote: > https://carnewschina.com/2022/01/23/dongfeng-e70-launched-with-a-solid-state-b > attery-50-demonstration-cars-delivered/ Thanks Paul. That's an interesting piece. It links to another which, to me, is even more interesting:

Re: [EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-05 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 5 Feb 2022 at 15:15, paul dove via EV wrote: > Is this personal experience or conjecture?  > I agree with the other poster. When in heavy traffic and on curves you will be > paying attention. At least I do! What is "when in heavy traffic and on curves you will be paying attention" but

Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-05 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 5 Feb 2022 at 17:11, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Using senses superior to humans will make FSD very dangerous as it will > drive thru conditions where a sane person would almost stop. One of the trends of the last few decades that concerns me is a fetish for rules. There's less and

Re: [EVDL] Request Tesla crash data

2022-02-08 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 8 Feb 2022 at 13:10, paul dove via EV wrote: > When and where did Tesla say you can let the car drive and play with your > radio?  They say stay alert and keep your hands on the wheel. Sorry it is > still people who donTMt obey that is the issue here. Seriously? You expect them to obey that

Re: [EVDL] Request Tesla crash data

2022-02-08 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 8 Feb 2022 at 15:07, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Tesla absolutely must modify FSD in some way to ensure the driver > is alert. I'm not sure how that might work ... I agree. They might start by not creating unrealistic expectations. For example, they could call it something other than

Re: [EVDL] Request Tesla crash data

2022-02-08 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 8 Feb 2022 at 20:00, paul dove via EV wrote: > Autosteer ... reminds you to place your hands on the wheel. If you look online, you'll find that Tesla owners don't appreciate those warnings and look for ways to defeat them. One example:

Re: [EVDL] Request Tesla crash data

2022-02-08 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 8 Feb 2022 at 15:07, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Tesla absolutely must modify FSD in some way to ensure the driver > is alert. I'm not sure how that might work They could start by not creating unrealistic expectations - that is, by calling it something other than "full self driving." I

Re: [EVDL] RIP: Bob Bruninga

2022-02-09 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Jack, so sorry to hear it, but thank you for letting us know the sad news. It's not unexpected but still a great loss for the world, for amateur radio, for alternative energy, for EVs, and for just general smart, sensible, frugal hacking (in the good definition of the word). Bob was one of

Re: [EVDL] How do I tell Google I travel by electric?

2022-01-18 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 18 Jan 2022 at 4:32, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Your travel in 202121% around the world > | Total travel |  Low-emission travel | > | 5,085 mi I guess there was formatting in the original that didn't survive in the real world of plain text. What's it trying to say? Where does it come

Re: [EVDL] Regen toll (was: Tesla Y actual wall outlet efficiency)

2022-01-07 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 7 Jan 2022 at 14:24, paul dove via EV wrote: > Be interested to see those numbers. Sure. Sorry that I didn't save links to my sources, but you're welcome to look them up for confirmation or correction I think that most of them were US federal agencies - DOE, EPA, maybe NASA. Spacex

Re: [EVDL] Regen toll (was: Tesla Y actual wall outlet efficiency)

2022-01-07 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 7 Jan 2022 at 15:43, Cal Frye via EV wrote: > Today's single Falcon 9 launch lifted 49 Starlink satellites. I think > your estimate is a mite high? Oops. Never forget: ignorance can be cured, but stupidity is forever. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply

Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] CPUC meeting via the web. Concerning

2022-01-06 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Here's a reply to this thread that the listserver blocked because it contained a non-list email address. The author didn't resubmit it after it was rejected. I hope you find it of value. --- Forwarded message follows --- From: "(-Phil-)" To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List

Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] CPUC meeting via the web. Concerning

2022-01-06 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Here's a reply to this thread that the listserver blocked because it contained a non-list email address. The author didn't resubmit it after it was rejected. I hope you find it of value. --- Forwarded message follows --- From: Bobby Keeland Date sent: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:07:15

Re: [EVDL] Regen toll (was: Tesla Y actual wall outlet efficiency)

2022-01-06 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 6 Jan 2022 at 20:47, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: > For one thing, tires on a Tesla are NOT optimized for effiiency, they > are optimized for traction and low noise. That's an interesting observation on Tesla's priorities. I rough-calculated a while back that Spacex's project to lauch

Re: [EVDL] leaf 2012 kw conversion to 40kw diy

2022-01-22 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 22 Jan 2022 at 18:16, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > to put a 40kw battery into a 2012 leaf Do you mean 40 kwh? Or do you really mean 40kw? That's about the engine power of a 1960 VW Beetle. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get

Re: [EVDL] Power/Energy misunderstanding

2022-01-22 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Willie, good for you. You're a patient fellow, taking whacks at mathematical illiteracy. Good luck. I fear that you're shouting into the void, AKA an internet chock full of misinformation and outright lies. You're on the right track, though. First you have to correct the bizarre notion

Re: [EVDL] video: World's largest lithium company mass producing solid state batteries

2022-01-26 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 26 Jan 2022 at 7:58, Paul Wujek via EV wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKqpZG-s_ac Sorry, I'm not that keen on sitting through a video clip when I can read something in 1/10 the time, so I found this: https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101690892/Here-comes-the-solid-state-

Re: [EVDL] Tropica repair, Leak pack swap, offlist

2022-04-08 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 8 Apr 2022 at 8:49, jerry freedomev via EV wrote: > Those are simple EV drives any good golf cart mechanic should be able > to handle as just a double 72vdc version. Or any shop that services forklifts and industrial vehicles. Many years ago I heard of (but never met) an older fellow in a

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

2022-04-11 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 11 Apr 2022 at 17:17, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > since the [Leaf battery] enclosure can't be opened (glued shut) ... Does that mean that the newer Leaf batteries can't be field-serviced, but must be exchanged for complete new or rebuilt batteries? David Roden, EVDL moderator & general

Re: [EVDL] Lightning

2022-04-14 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 13 Apr 2022 at 22:58, George E Swartz via EV wrote: > The MSRP is about 43k but the dealer asking price was 77k for 34k > dealer mark up. Good grief. And I thought it was outrageous back in the Mideast oil embargo days of the mid 1970s when Datsun and Toyota dealers were putting $400 or so

Re: [EVDL] (EVDL)EV charging is changing

2023-09-05 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I like what Aptera is trying to do. Tackling the question of range by boosting vehicle efficiency rather than cramming in a monster-capacity- battery is admirable - and rational. The problem is that auto buyers aren't very rational, especially in the US. 1. The Aptera looks ... funny. It's

[EVDL] Chinese EVs stalking Europe

2023-09-04 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I've just read that so far this year at least 2 of the 3 strongest-selling EVs in the UK are from China. The UK top 3 are the Tesla Model Y, the MG4, and the Polestar 2. I say that at least 2 of them are Chinese, but IIRC some of the EU / UK Teslas come from Tesla's Shanghai factory, so

Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed

2023-09-15 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I managed to find the article. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/09/1600-miles-on-a-single-charge-student- built-ev-sets-new-world-record/ shortcut: https://v.gd/X9prd1 Top speed 42 km/h Weight 170kg For comparison, in 1987 the GM Sunraycer won the World Solar Challenge - all energy from the

Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed

2023-09-15 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 15 Sep 2023 at 9:40, George E Swartz via EV wrote: > I think Bob Aronson's Mars electric car with 2000 pounds of lead acid > batteries did 144 miles under ideal conditions in the late 1960's The Mars II's advertised range was 120 miles with a 30kwh battery weighing about 1900lb. Bob Rice,

Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed (Alan Arrison)

2023-09-16 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 16 Sep 2023 at 21:36, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > 100 miles on 1kWh? What are you smoking? > > I'm pretty sure even an electric bicycle can't do that. Depends on the bike, I guess, but even our cheap "Makadam" brand department store E-bike will do a real-world 40km on a factory-rated

[EVDL] EVLN: 3000lb of metal, parked

2023-09-17 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Erine Erickson loves her Tesla Model 3. But these days, the EV stays parked in her garage. "It´s, you know, 3,000 pounds of metal in a parking spot downstairs," she said ... ... When replacing Erickson´s battery, Tesla says they discovered that Carfax listed her car as having a salvaged title

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000lb of metal, parked

2023-09-17 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 17 Sep 2023 at 14:06, paul dove via EV wrote: > Stories like this are so unbelievable. > I have never communicated with Tesla via email. > Any issue with my vehicle was handled via the phone app. > They always respond in a timely manner Are you seriously suggesting that the Tesla owner in the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000lb of metal, parked

2023-09-17 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
The owner had no problems getting warranty repair for a battery problem. Her trouble started because 1. Tesla ran a Carmax report on the car 2. They discovered an erroneous accident report 3. Without verifying the report, they disabled the car's supercharger access 4. Tesla's service

Re: [EVDL] Level 2 on road charging complications

2023-09-01 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 1 Sep 2023 at 11:45, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > Seems nowadays with credit card readers this messy charging process > could be a *whole* lot simpler. Yeah, you'd think. What a hassle you went through there, and for zilch. Yet nearly every filling station takes credit cards, and they just

[EVDL] Four wheels for the price of two

2023-09-09 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
You can spend upwards of $7-8k for a top of the line 2-wheel E-bike. Or, for about the same outlay, you can have a 4-wheel EV, if you live in Europe. >From Citroen, the folks who brought France the famous post-WW2 2CV: https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2021-citroen-ami-first-drive-review/

Re: [EVDL] (EVDL)EV charging is changing

2023-09-08 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
As I said before, raising efficiency rather than jamming in a monster battery is a Good Thing. If we can believe the claims for Aptera, in that respect it's on the right track. I want to see the EPA/WLTP numbers, but I can sort of believe that it could manage 100 wh/mi. The humble 1992

Re: [EVDL] EV charging is changing

2023-08-30 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 30 Aug 2023 at 18:28, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Exactly! So why is this never mentioned in any public discussion of EVs > by the various reviewers, talking heads, and pundits? Every single > article or news program I've seen or heard ignores home charging, and > instead stresses the "need"

[EVDL] Expensive batteries

2023-10-16 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-owners-bill-battery-damaged-ev- scotland-weather-2023-10 or https://v.gd/yIsSe4 Ouch. That price, $21k, seems a tad pricey. Regrettably the article is sorely lacking in detail. It doesn't even specify the Tesla model or the battery capacity. I could

[EVDL] EVLN: Wait - what? MORE labor hours?

2023-10-16 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/10/striking-uaw-workers-win-key-battery- plant-concession-from-general-motors/ or https://v.gd/j0sNGM "In a report published on Friday, Heatmap found that once battery-cell production is taken into account, EVs may well require more workers [hours] than

Re: [EVDL] Expensive batteries

2023-10-16 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Here's a bit more detail on the original incident. https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-couple-fume- handed-17k-27906242?_ga=2.246347724.933278429.1697443215- 401898413.1697443216 Yikes, try this link: https://v.gd/QCDfhZ A "goodwill repair" is when a manufacturer

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