Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 9/22/2019 8:52 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: Of course they are mathematically possible. You just need to start with the right axioms.  Everything mathematically possible that is not self contradictory (including a flat Earth and flying pigs). Brent I don't see dark bands as

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 9:16:38 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 17:00, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:14:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 9/18/2019 3:02 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> > I think he means one can replace a

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 9:28:13 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/22/2019 8:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 5:43:13 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 9/22/2019 8:39 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >> > >> > This is a consequence also of eternal

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 9/22/2019 8:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 5:43:13 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 9/22/2019 8:39 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > This is a consequence also of eternal inflation, and Guth used almost > identical language saying everything that can

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 7:39:50 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> >> >> On 9/22/2019 3:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> > every conceivable pattern that is possible can happen and

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 5:43:13 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/22/2019 8:39 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > This is a consequence also of eternal inflation, and Guth used almost > > identical language saying everything that can happen happens an > > infinite number of times. >

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On 9/22/2019 3:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > every conceivable pattern that is possible can happen and would happen > > No. That is NOT the theory. The theory is that everything >

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 4:36:11 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:39 AM Jason Resch > wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 9:34 PM Bruce Kellett > > wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 11:46 AM Jason Resch >> > wrote: >>> On Thursday, September 19, 2019, Alan

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 9/22/2019 3:56 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: The Bekenstein bound does not apply to our Hubble volume. If you take the mean density over this volume, and the Hubble radius, you find that the amount of enclosed matter saturates the Bekenstein bound. But we are not inside a black hole So

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 9/22/2019 3:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: every conceivable pattern that is possible can happen and would happen No.  That is NOT the theory.  The theory is that everything nomologically consistent with the initial conditions may happen. "Conceviable" is having a flat Earth and flying

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 9/22/2019 8:39 AM, Jason Resch wrote: This is a consequence also of eternal inflation, and Guth used almost identical language saying everything that can happen happens an infinite number of times. The problem is to figure out what CAN happen.  There tends to be a casual assumption

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:46 AM Jason Resch wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 5:36 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:39 AM Jason Resch wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 9:34 PM Bruce Kellett >>> wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 11:46 AM Jason Resch wrote:

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 5:36 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:39 AM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 9:34 PM Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 11:46 AM Jason Resch >>> wrote: >>> On Thursday, September 19, 2019, Alan Grayson

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:39 AM Jason Resch wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 9:34 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 11:46 AM Jason Resch >> wrote: >> >>> On Thursday, September 19, 2019, Alan Grayson >>> wrote: What I have shown is that it's hypothetically

Re: FW: [Theoretical_Physics] Continuous rotation of a circular coil experiment

2019-09-22 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
To be dark, dark-matter needs to not interact with EM waves. Magnetic monopoles would interact. Brent On 9/22/2019 4:44 AM, Philip Benjamin wrote: mindbrain [Theoretical_Physics] Continuous rotation of a circular coil experiment theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com

Re: Sean Carroll gets past "Step 3" of the UDA

2019-09-22 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 11:21 AM Jason Resch wrote: *> Were you being wrong or silly when you accepted it 6 years ago?* > I don't know, it depends on what "it" was 6 years ago. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group.

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Jason Resch
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 9:34 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 11:46 AM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Thursday, September 19, 2019, Alan Grayson >> wrote: >>> >>> > > *I don't believe in repeats and I haven't seen any proofs that > they occur, just assertions

Re: Quantum immortality

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Sep 2019, at 12:22, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 5:02 AM John Clark > wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:54 AM Jason Resch > wrote: > > > This is exactly the break that occurred going from mind-brain

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Sep 2019, at 17:15, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 7:47:44 AM UTC-6, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > Le jeu. 19 sept. 2019 à 15:37, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 5:02:11 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 16

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Sep 2019, at 15:37, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 5:02:11 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 16 Sep 2019, at 17:18, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 9:00:46 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 14 Sep

Re: Sean Carroll gets past "Step 3" of the UDA

2019-09-22 Thread Jason Resch
On Sunday, September 22, 2019, John Clark wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 6:41 AM Jason Resch wrote: > > *> Perhaps Carroll's explanation might help others who've struggled to get >> past Step 3.* > > > If Jason Resch reads Carroll's book as John Clark has done then Jason > Resch will find

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Sep 2019, at 17:00, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:14:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > On 9/18/2019 3:02 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > I think he means one can replace a human brain and/or nervous system > > with computer microchips and

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Sep 2019, at 12:12, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 3:56:43 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:45 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > > Don't you use definitions in physics, such as mass, energy, velocity, > > acceleration, space, time,

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Sep 2019, at 11:56, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:45 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > > Don't you use definitions in physics, such as mass, energy, velocity, > > acceleration, space, time, entropy? > > Sure, and every one of those

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Sep 2019, at 03:45, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:02:09 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > I think he means one can replace a human brain and/or nervous system with > computer microchips and consciousness will be preserved, or perfectly > simulated

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Sep 2019, at 00:16, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 9/18/2019 2:58 PM, John Clark wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 4:25 PM 'Brent Meeker' >> mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> > Haven't you ever awoken from surgery? AG >> >> >>

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Sep 2019, at 23:01, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > On 9/18/2019 11:55 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:14:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 9/18/2019 3:02 AM, Alan

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Sep 2019, at 21:30, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 1:14:36 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:55 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > > You know, there are things we call "dictionaries" where words are defined. > > And all those

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Sep 2019, at 20:55, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:14:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > On 9/18/2019 3:02 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > I think he means one can replace a human brain and/or nervous system > > with computer microchips and

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Sep 2019, at 13:11, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:02 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > > I think he means one can replace a human brain and/or nervous system with > > computer microchips and consciousness will be preserved, or perfectly >

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Sep 2019, at 12:33, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 5:02:09 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > I think he means one can replace a human brain and/or nervous system with > computer microchips and consciousness will be preserved, or perfectly > simulated

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Sep 2019, at 12:02, Alan Grayson wrote: > > I think he means one can replace a human brain and/or nervous system with > computer microchips and consciousness will be preserved, or perfectly > simulated so the person who says "Yes doctor", will awake from the surgery > thinking

FW: [Theoretical_Physics] Continuous rotation of a circular coil experiment

2019-09-22 Thread Philip Benjamin
mindbrain [Theoretical_Physics] Continuous rotation of a circular coil experiment theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com [Philip Benjamin] There is clear implication here for an unknown magnetic world as a necessary counterpart of the known electric

Mereotopology and the computation representations of the body

2019-09-22 Thread Philip Thrift
*Mereotopology and the computation representations of the body* http://computationalculture.net/mereotopology-and-computational-representations-of-the-body/ Abstract Mereotopology is a philosophically motivated approach to space originating in the work of A. N. Whitehead. Instead of taking

Re: Sean Carroll gets past "Step 3" of the UDA

2019-09-22 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 6:41 AM Jason Resch wrote: *> Perhaps Carroll's explanation might help others who've struggled to get > past Step 3.* If Jason Resch reads Carroll's book as John Clark has done then Jason Resch will find that Carroll goes into considerable detail explaining what the

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-22 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 4:32:24 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 08:22:40AM -0400, John Clark wrote: > > There is a rumor that a team of researchers at Google led by John > Martinis have > > performed a calculation on a Quantum Computer in three minutes