Is it important what is in my mind when I use the words? I don't
have to hold the whole earth or the whole solar system in my head for
them to exist.
I think your playing language games... What is this whole earth or
whole solar system to which you confidently refer? I assert they don't
exist,
On 7/6/2011 11:16 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Any regular user of the Internet knows how difficult it is to read
CAPTCHA's, I struggle to correctly enter them all the time, take a
look at Google's: https://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
They are so difficult today because AI capable of
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:05 AM, B Soroud bsor...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it important what is in my mind when I use the words? I don't
have to hold the whole earth or the whole solar system in my head for
them to exist.
I think your playing language games... What is this whole earth or
whole
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@charter.net wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Pretty freaking cool post! A few comments...
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On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Colin Geoffrey Hales
What do you believe in then? I thought it was the phenomenal world, but
the above sounds like immaterialism or solipsism.
I am neither a immaterialist nor a solipsist... don't try to conveniently
label me. I wouldn't call myself a phenomenalist per se. but if anything
I highly value the
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Colin Geoffrey Hales cgha...@unimelb.edu.au
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so you see you are deluding yourself if you think you are apprehending
anything you could call a whole earth there is no such thing you are
apprehending nothing but your prejudicial delusion.
You may say it exists in principal but I would go on to ask you how
you know that and how you
On 7/7/2011 12:11 AM, Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote:
Hi,
You have missed the point. When you feel pain in your hand your are
feeling it because the physics of specific specialized small regions
of the cranial central nervous system are doing things. This includes
(1) action potentials mutually
On 07 Jul 2011, at 02:41, Richard Miller wrote:
All: Can someone please post a design for an experiment that will
test some
of these great theories? As long as the arguments remain
theoretical the
obvious limiters are semantics and math--and over the course of the
last 137
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On 07 Jul 2011, at 03:12, B Soroud wrote:
If reality = a physical universe
Personally, I don't believe that. Here is the catch, I don't believe
its antithesis or any alternative.
Well the idea is to search for a theory.
My point is that if we assume mechanism
Unfortunately, since I
A great book (fiction) for wrapping your head around the weirder
consequences of comp is Greg Egan's Permutation City.
Terren
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
okay, let me see if I can try, If I have an affinity for it, If i find it
not boring, dry,
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:12:45PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
One that happens to be incompatible with
theory that our minds are computer programs.
Can you explain that? It seems to be Bruno's central claim, but so
far as I can see he only tries to prove that a physical reality is
otiose.
On 7/7/2011 4:59 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:12:45PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
One that happens to be incompatible with
theory that our minds are computer programs.
Can you explain that? It seems to be Bruno's central claim, but so
far as I can see he only
Bruno, you are an animal...
So that you can in principle survive with another body, coming from the
first by local functional substitution. I coin this into saying yes doctor
to a surgeon proposing you an artifical digital brain.
What is local functional substitution? If I am not my brain, then
lol, I'm sure everyone has heard this too many times but it is one of
those things that most people seem to humbly agree about... and it still
sounds funny and interesting any thoughts?:
something unknown is doing something unknown (sir arthur edington)_
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM, B
John M on second examination not bad. I need to look over
it again though and see if I can reply.
On Jul 7, 8:29 am, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Friends:
Lots of *mouse*-traps written in this and
other*posts/preposts/repost/superposts/etc.
*
God? Truth? Reality? even:
Actually John, the more I read it the more I feel for it but some
seeming issues:
there is an info-transfer into 'us' from the limitless complexity
you say information-transfer, or we can rephrase it as information
processing or information reception etc. But I think information is
a
Is metaphysics merely a notion that is the reversal or antithesis of
the world as we know it?
Instead of change: changelesness.
Instead of diversity or multiplicity: unity.
Instead of instability: stability
Instead of of birth and death: immortality.
Instead of complexity: simplicity.
in fact, religion/spirituality/mysticism/metaphysics may be nothing more
then the exact opposite of the truth.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:42 PM, B Soroud bsor...@gmail.com wrote:
religion or metaphysics is the idealistic tradition that asserts that there
is an ultimate reality that is the
religion or metaphysics is the idealistic tradition that asserts that there
is an ultimate reality that is the reverse opposite of our present reality.
Wishful thinking?
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lol, you got me there.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:53 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 7/7/2011 10:43 PM, B Soroud wrote:
in fact, religion/spirituality/**mysticism/metaphysics may be nothing
more then the exact opposite of the truth.
Well then all we have to do is take it's
Is it possible that Bruno is a mutant that is somehow a fusion of
hyper-rationality and insanity?
Is Bruno a mad-scientist?
hehe.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:56 PM, B Soroud bsor...@gmail.com wrote:
lol, you got me there.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:53 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
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