On 04 Apr 2014, at 19:05, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 04 Apr 2014, at 11:44, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 4 April 2014 20:33, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Stathis
Probably you saw people visiting houses in your neighbourhood, but
that did not reached consciousnees you were busy thinking about other
things. (I will not insert here these funny videos of people failing
to recognize a bear in the middle of a scene).
But according with a theory of evolutionary
On 04 Apr 2014, at 19:32, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 02 Apr 2014, at 23:03, LizR wrote:
On 3 April 2014 05:56, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
wrote:
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On 06 Apr 2014, at 07:13, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 05:42:10AM +1000, Kim Jones wrote:
Finally you got to it. It was a precognitive dream. I have had
many, an enormous number throughout my life in fact, so I don't
think we need to beat about the bush here. Some
On 05 Apr 2014, at 12:44, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:00 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Last night just before I woke up I had a dream about a guy coming to
the door selling religion, so to speak - the details were a bit
weird, as in most dreams, but that was the
On 06 Apr 2014, at 06:47, meekerdb wrote:
On 4/5/2014 4:18 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:04 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 4/5/2014 3:54 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Sure, I also find it quite likely that powerful fossil fuel
companies are lobbying or
On 6 Apr 2014, at 5:40 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
So do you classify religion as a conspiracy? Do you think clergy are really
all atheists and are just conspiring to fool others?
I am pretty sure of this.
Do you think that a christian believer of the top would protect
On 5 April 2014 23:44, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:00 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Last night just before I woke up I had a dream about a guy coming to the
door selling religion, so to speak - the details were a bit weird, as in
most dreams,
On 05 Apr 2014, at 16:19, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Telmo Menezes
te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:47 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
That doesn't narrow it down too much.
Je m'accuse. I was one of them.
My point was
On 05 Apr 2014, at 12:30, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:47 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
That doesn't narrow it down too much.
Je m'accuse. I was one of them.
My point was that conspiracy theories, in the sense of power elites
secretly cooperating to further their
Boris Iskatov has derived a Quantum Information Theory from Dirac Eq.
based on reality being (in part) a gas of microleptons
(which is consistent with Brandenburger's String Gas Cosmology)
That predicts that weak signals/information can leak back from the future
and the past. His theory is not
Bruno,
Is French your first language? If so, you can download the original French
book by Dr Maurice Bucaille from the following link:
http://www.islamic-invitation.com/downloads/Bible-Quran-Science_fr.pdf
This study was made many years ago. If this inspires you, perhaps you can
give a fresh look
On 05 Apr 2014, at 19:09, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:07:47 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 04 Apr 2014, at 03:40, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, April 3, 2014 2:34:06 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I'm not confusing them, I'm saying that []~comp is not untrue
Dear Friends,
Is there a single objective definition of damage to the environment?
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 04 Apr 2014, at 19:32, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 02 Apr
On 05 Apr 2014, at 19:40, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:07:47 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 04 Apr 2014, at 03:40, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Logic is just required to be able to argue with others, and you do
use it, it seems to me, except that you seem to
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Shall we do the math now .
Yes lets.
150GW * 8670 (hours/year)
Actually 24 times 365 is 8760 not 8670; and if you want to get technical a
year is a little more than 365 days so it's really 8766 hours, but
On 06 Apr 2014, at 13:00, Kim Jones wrote:
On 6 Apr 2014, at 5:40 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
So do you classify religion as a conspiracy? Do you think clergy
are really all atheists and are just conspiring to fool others?
I am pretty sure of this.
Do you think that a
On 4/6/2014 12:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 Apr 2014, at 06:47, meekerdb wrote:
On 4/5/2014 4:18 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:04 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/5/2014 3:54 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Sure, I
On 4/6/2014 1:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Prohibition seems to me to have been planned in advance by bandits to get power, with
the complicity of some special interest.
They failed with alcohol, but succeeded with marijuana.
Your reasoning would imply that prohibiting anything is a secret
Hi Samiya,
On 06 Apr 2014, at 15:41, Samiya Illias wrote:
Bruno,
Is French your first language?
Not really. (Born in Germany, german/polish nurse).
If so, you can download the original French book by Dr Maurice
Bucaille from the following link:
Good question. There are so many metrics.
A given environments bio-diversity for example (although bio-diversity
ranges widely from place to place - a single valley in a bio-diversity hot
spot in some place like Costa Rica can have a greater variety of species
than an entire region of arboreal
What do all these have in common? Boil it down to the essence.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote:
Good question. There are so many metrics.
A given environments bio-diversity for example (although bio-diversity
ranges widely from place to place - a
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:47 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/5/2014 4:18 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:04 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/5/2014 3:54 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Sure, I also find it quite likely that powerful fossil fuel
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 10:48 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Climate models
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
On 4/6/2014 11:36 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:47 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/5/2014 4:18 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:04 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
Samiya Illias,
you took up an honorable position and will be rewarded for it in the
afterlife - if there is an afterlife.
A friend (almost reaching the title of Catholic Priest) said in a similar
discussion: It means so little mental investment to BELIVE and the reward
is so great (eternal bliss)
The real story here is that a peer reviewed journal was intimidated into
withdrawing a paper that had passed through the proper review channels.
That the internet is full of conspiracy theory isn't news. And to the extent
that climate science denial is correlated with beliefs in conspiracy
On 4/6/2014 3:18 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Samiya Illias,
you took up an honorable position and will be rewarded for it in the afterlife - if
there is an afterlife.
A friend (almost reaching the title of Catholic Priest) said in a similar discussion: It
means so little mental investment to BELIVE
On 4/6/2014 4:08 PM, chris peck wrote:
The real story here is that a peer reviewed journal was intimidated into withdrawing a
paper that had passed through the proper review channels.
That the internet is full of conspiracy theory isn't news. And to the extent that
climate science denial is
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com
[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Paul King
What do all these have in common? Boil it down to the essence.
If it were that easy J
An ecosystem is an emergent phenomena. a whole that is more than and cannot
be
Brent
If 100% of scientists were in agreement about climate change, that fact alone,
tells me nothing about the truth of the claims they actually make.
You probably didn't test the germ theory of disease or conservation of energy
either.
Yes, and my great great great great great grand parents
Hi Chris,
Given the complexity that you have pointed out, is it a legitimate
expectation to assume that it is even possible to define regulations that
are not disruptive and themselves harmful? My point is that we should be
very careful in our thinking about environmental issues to be sure that
On 4/6/2014 5:35 PM, chris peck wrote:
Brent
If 100% of scientists were in agreement about climate change, that fact alone, tells me
nothing about the truth of the claims they actually make.
So does the agreement of physicists at CERN tell you nothing about whether the Higgs boson
exists?
So does the agreement of physicists at CERN tell you nothing about whether
the Higgs boson exists?
It tells me absolutely nothing. Im interested in why they agree not that they
agree.
How do you know that - did you take someone's word for it? Was it a
scientist?
Assuming you are
I'm not sure what I did wrong that led to this thread being immediately
hijacked by religion - surely the possibility of crows exhibiting a similar
type of intelligence to humans (albeit in a lesser degree) is a more
interesting subject than some ideas people made up millennia ago in an
attempt to
On 5 April 2014 09:43, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Hear, Hear! Sadly, we (collectively speaking) keep buying the smooth talk
and shiny baubles they promise and keep electing them.
Trouble is they only give us a few choices (or only two if you don't have
proportional
On 7 April 2014 14:32, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
So does the agreement of physicists at CERN tell you nothing about
whether the Higgs boson exists?
It tells me absolutely nothing. Im interested in why they agree not that
they agree.
They agree because the equipment they
They agree because the equipment they used produced a signal they
interpreted using their best available theories as indicating the existence
of the Higgs.
Right I see. So the physicists at cern don't count the number of people who are
in agreement, they actually do look at equipment now
On 7 April 2014 05:18, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Dear Friends,
Is there a single objective definition of damage to the environment?
Given the complexity of the environment, I very much doubt it. There are
some proxies for it, of course, e.g. rate of species
On 7 April 2014 05:47, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
What the hell? You're confusing the difference between power and energy,
they are not the same thing and if you insist on multiplying the capacity
of your solar cells by a factor of 8670 (or even a 8760 ) then I can
multiply
On 7 April 2014 12:45, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Hi Chris,
Given the complexity that you have pointed out, is it a legitimate
expectation to assume that it is even possible to define regulations that
are not disruptive and themselves harmful? My point is that we
Hey Liz, I was simply trying to point out that some truths that science is
discovering now we have already known through our scripture since
centuries. And that the scripture is also a credible source for taking
hints and clues about the world and then using intelligence and research to
explore
John, your friend's position sounds almost like Pascal's wager: personally
I think its a poor reason to believe, if it can at all be considered
belief. I know it would be 'the smart thing to do', 'playing it safe', etc,
but I think faith and belief require a major mental investment: its
requires
On 4/6/2014 7:32 PM, chris peck wrote:
So does the agreement of physicists at CERN tell you nothing about whether the Higgs
boson exists?
It tells me absolutely nothing. Im interested in why they agree not that they
agree.
How do you know that - did you take someone's word for it? Was it
On 4/6/2014 7:33 PM, LizR wrote:
I'm not sure what I did wrong that led to this thread being immediately hijacked by
religion - surely the possibility of crows exhibiting a similar type of intelligence to
humans (albeit in a lesser degree) is a more interesting subject than some ideas people
Dear Liz,
My concern is that almost all of the discussion of environmental
damage seems to assume that Humanity is somehow a foreign present in the
environment, as if we are invaders form space. AFAIK, humans are part of
the Earth just as much as rainforests and ants. Why are human activities
Hi Liz,
Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off the planet? Why
is there a retreat into a bunker mentality?
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:03 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 April 2014 12:45, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote:
Hi Chris,
Given the
On 4/6/2014 8:34 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
John, your friend's position sounds almost like Pascal's wager: personally I think its a
poor reason to believe, if it can at all be considered belief. I know it would be 'the
smart thing to do', 'playing it safe', etc, but I think faith and belief
On 7 April 2014 15:43, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/6/2014 7:33 PM, LizR wrote:
I'm not sure what I did wrong that led to this thread being immediately
hijacked by religion - surely the possibility of crows exhibiting a similar
type of intelligence to humans (albeit in a
On 7 April 2014 15:24, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Liz, I was simply trying to point out that some truths that science is
discovering now we have already known through our scripture since
centuries. And that the scripture is also a credible source for taking
hints and
On 7 April 2014 15:48, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/6/2014 8:34 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
John, your friend's position sounds almost like Pascal's wager: personally
I think its a poor reason to believe, if it can at all be considered
belief. I know it would be 'the smart thing
On 7 April 2014 15:45, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Dear Liz,
My concern is that almost all of the discussion of environmental
damage seems to assume that Humanity is somehow a foreign present in the
environment, as if we are invaders form space. AFAIK, humans are
Yes, according to my understanding, the text is certainly inspired by
higher intelligence (with Divine permission). The study of the Qur'an
reveals many 1p and 3p statements. The 1p statements are also of two
categories: the singular 1p which we understand largely to be God being
quoted, whereas
On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Hi Liz,
Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off the planet? Why
is there a retreat into a bunker mentality?
I wouldn't say there is no interest - but getting anyone or anything off
the planet isn't
I live in Pakistan. I've published my take on Blasphemy in my blog:
http://islam-qna.blogspot.com/2011/01/blasphemy.html
-
Unless you live in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or some other fundamentalist
muslim country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_blasphemy
Brent
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at
On 4/6/2014 9:14 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 April 2014 15:43, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/6/2014 7:33 PM, LizR wrote:
I'm not sure what I did wrong that led to this thread being immediately
hijacked by
religion - surely the possibility of crows
On 4/6/2014 9:56 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com
mailto:stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Hi Liz,
Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off the planet? Why
is there
a retreat into a bunker mentality?
I wouldn't
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