Re: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Jesse: At 10:51 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote: Hal Ruhl wrote: Hi Jesse: In FCC ABC layering the distance between the centers of any two adjacent regions is always the same. Now if we get to motion the question is whether or not the model allows motion. In a discrete state evolving univers

Re: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Jesse Mazer
Hal Ruhl wrote: Hi Jesse: In FCC ABC layering the distance between the centers of any two adjacent regions is always the same. Now if we get to motion the question is whether or not the model allows motion. In a discrete state evolving universe there is no motion while a universe is in a

Re: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Jesse: In FCC ABC layering the distance between the centers of any two adjacent regions is always the same. Now if we get to motion the question is whether or not the model allows motion. In a discrete state evolving universe there is no motion while a universe is in a particular state a

Re: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Russell: Because there is only one primitive - an isolated point and one source of "meaning" its position in its region. If the region has only discrete locations then one can encode a state of this type of universe directly as a string of 0's and 1's. 1's mark the position occupied by t

Re: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Russell: At 06:56 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote: But look at your assumptions. * 3 dimensions Actually there are more space dimensions. The FCC ABC layering provides in general six additional local dimensions from the point of view of the central region. * a discrete lattice structure: wh

Re: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Russell: I forgot to mention that for the asynchronously updated regions [no entanglement with other regions] each individual region update is a new state of that universe so computing new states is very easy. The fact that it takes many updates to produce a large scale change in the grid

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Jesse Mazer
John Ross wrote: I have not dealt with Mercury's orbit. This is one of the most important experimental confirmations of general relativity. Were you even aware of it? My theory can explain the double slit results just as well as any other theory, better than most. Quantitatively? Can yo

Re: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Jesse Mazer
A discrete lattice structure would also violate Lorentz-symmetry, since the mimimum distance would look different in different reference frames, and there would be one preferred frame where the distance was maximized. Jesse From: Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: John Ross <[EMAIL PROT

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Jesse Mazer
John Ross: Are you kicking me off the site? What if it turns out that I am right? Or are you all just interested in alternatives to the truth? I don't have the power to kick you off, I'm just telling you this sort of thing is off-topic here, so the polite thing to do would take the discussi

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Are you kicking me off the site? What if it turns out that I am right? Or are you all just interested in alternatives to the truth? -Original Message- From: Jesse Mazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Subj

RE: Tegmark's prediction of neutrino masses

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
It's just my opinion. -Original Message- From: Stephen Paul King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:32 PM To: everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Tegmark's prediction of neutrino masses Exactly how did you come to merit being the judge of what is "weird"? --

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Jesse Mazer
This comment shows that you have very little understanding of the basics of relativity, and thus would not be in a position to say that your theory can reproduce its successful predictions since you obviously haven't studied them in any detail. In GR nothing can exceed the speed of light *locall

Re: Tegmark's prediction of neutrino masses

2005-10-10 Thread Stephen Paul King
Exactly how did you come to merit being the judge of what is "weird"? - Original Message - From: "John Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Saibal Mitra'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'everything'" Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Tegmark's prediction of neutrino masses This

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
I have not dealt with Mercury's orbit. My theory can explain the double slit results just as well as any other theory, better than most. I have not tried to calculate the muon magnetic moment. My theory does however predict that a muon is nothing more than a high energy electron that has obtain

Re: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Russell Standish
But look at your assumptions. * 3 dimensions * a discrete lattice structure: what sets the unit cell size * face centre cubic - why this layout, and not one of the other possible crystalline types * what are these higher energy dances? It seems if you add energy to a FCC crystal, you just

RE: Tegmark's prediction of neutrino masses

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
This sounds too weird for me. -Original Message- From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:54 PM To: everything Subject: Tegmark's prediction of neutrino masses Since we are discussing neutrinos, I thought it is fun to mention antropic constraints on

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Russell Standish
Take a look at arXiv:hep-ex/0412060. It is an experimental resolution of the Solar Neutrino problem, which I think would be required reading for your interests. On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 04:34:26PM -0700, John Ross wrote: > Name one. > > -Original Message- > From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:[EMAI

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Have you ever heard of the "Big Bang" and the period just after where the universe expanded much faster than the speed of light. -Original Message- From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:49 PM To: John Ross; 'Russell Standish' Cc: 'Stephen Paul King'

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
I don't believe it. -Original Message- From: Stephen Paul King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:45 PM To: everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea Dear John, There is replicated evidence that neutrinos have a non-zero mass. It is very

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Give me your FAX number and I will fax you the photo. -Original Message- From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:45 PM To: John Ross; 'Russell Standish' Cc: 'Hal Ruhl'; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea I'm sure you saw so

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Here is what the relevant part of your reference said: "The KamLAND (Kamioka Liquid-scintillator Anti-Neutrino Detector) apparatus was purpose-built to catch a glimpse of these elusive particles (see Fig. 5 on page 502). The detector is situated in the centre of the largest Japanese island, Honshu

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Jesse Mazer
John Ross wrote: To the best of my knowledge and belief, my theory successfully predicts all known experimental knowledge of physics, chemistry and optics and does so better and simpler than any other theory. I am working on a list of predictions of new things that can be proved experimentally

Tegmark's prediction of neutrino masses

2005-10-10 Thread Saibal Mitra
Since we are discussing neutrinos, I thought it is fun to mention antropic constraints on neutrino masses derived by Tegmark, see here: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0304536 Anthropic predictions for neutrino masses Authors: Max Tegmark (MIT), Alexander Vilenkin (Tufts), Levon Pogosian (Tufts) C

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear John, This theory, as far as I have researched it, has problem with Eotvos experiements that consider particles that are sensitive to the weak force, such as radioactive elements. Not all particles interact with neutrinos, e.g. are sensituve to the weak force, and thus there should be

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Saibal Mitra
Faster than light effects lead to violations of causality. There are very stringent experimental constraints against such effects. - Original Message - From: "John Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Russell Standish'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Stephen Paul King'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent:

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Saibal Mitra
I'm sure you saw something else :-) - Original Message - From: "John Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Russell Standish'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Hal Ruhl'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 01:40 AM Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea > I say a neutrino does not have

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear John, There is replicated evidence that neutrinos have a non-zero mass. It is very small, but it is not zero. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino Onward! Stephen - Original Message - From: "John Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Saibal Mitra'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: M

RE: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Because there is only one particle (and its anti-particle) and one force from which the entire universe is built. How could there be anything simpler? -Original Message- From: Russell Standish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:06 PM To: Hal Ruhl Cc: everything

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
I say any massless particle that has a charge supporting a Coulomb force must travel at the speed of light or faster because the Coulomb force travels at the speed of light and a charged massless particle will be repelled by its own Coulomb force. -Original Message- From: Russell Standish

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread daddycaylor
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v436/n7050/full/436467a.html -Original Message- From: John Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Saibal Mitra' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:34:26 -0700 Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea Name one. -Original Me

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
I say a neutrino does not have a rest mass. It is a photon, like a very high energy gamma ray photon. I have seen photos of a neutrino collision in a neutrino trap. From the look of all the resulting ionization tracks, it must have had a lot more energy than 40 ev. I say the energy of neutrinos

Re: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Russell Standish
Why is this the simplest? It looks horrendously complicated to me. On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 06:07:26PM -0400, Hal Ruhl wrote: > Actually the simplest potential model of our universe I know of is > mine [was I first with this idea?] which I have posted on before. It > is just a discrete point spa

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Name one. -Original Message- From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:27 PM To: John Ross; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea There are a lot of experiments that have detected neutrinos and verified their properties (which a

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
To the best of my knowledge and belief, my theory successfully predicts all known experimental knowledge of physics, chemistry and optics and does so better and simpler than any other theory. I am working on a list of predictions of new things that can be proved experimentally. -Original Mess

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:11:04AM -0700, John Ross wrote: > * Only photons travel at the speed of light. (Except my tronnies that > usually go faster than the speed of light.) Who says? Any massless particle will travel at the speed of light. -- *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachm

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Russell Standish
According to special relativity, anything with a positive rest mass travels slower than the speed of light. Neutrinos have been measured with a positive rest mass, of around 40ev for the electron neutrino IIRC, and higher values for the muon and tauon neutrinos. I have never heard of either tardyo

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Thanks for the response. Your reference quotes Professor Feynman in part as follows: "So that is the end of that theory. 'Well,' you say, 'it was a good one, and I got rid of the mathematics for a while. Maybe I could invent a better one.' Maybe you can, because nobody knows the ultimate. But up

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Saibal Mitra
There are a lot of experiments that have detected neutrinos and verified their properties (which are completely different from photons). - Original Message - From: "John Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Saibal Mitra'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 10:49 PM Subject:

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Hal Ruhl
Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxon At 06:06 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote: Where is the proof that a neutrino is not a photon. I believe people are only guessing that a neutrino is a tardyon, whatever in the hell a tardyon is. Tardyons are not in my dictionary. -Original Message- From:

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Jesse Mazer
John Ross: Thanks for the response. Yes my theory involves a lot of math. Have you read my patent application? For example, I have a quantitative description of Coulomb forces acting inside photons. These integrated forces represent the photon's energy. Do these equations allow you to pred

RE: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory of Everything

2005-10-10 Thread Hal Ruhl
Actually the simplest potential model of our universe I know of is mine [was I first with this idea?] which I have posted on before. It is just a discrete point space where the points are confined to regions arranged on a face centered cubic grid and "particles" are just dances of these points

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Where is the proof that a neutrino is not a photon. I believe people are only guessing that a neutrino is a tardyon, whatever in the hell a tardyon is. Tardyons are not in my dictionary. -Original Message- From: Hal Ruhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:50 PM T

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Hal Ruhl
As I understand it a photon is a luxon as is a gluon and a neutrino is a tardyon. Hal Ruhl At 04:49 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote: I think the beta decay model is wrong where it predicts neutrinos are basically different from photons. I understand neutrinos travel at the speed of light. Only pho

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
I think the beta decay model is wrong where it predicts neutrinos are basically different from photons. I understand neutrinos travel at the speed of light. Only photons travel at the speed of light. -Original Message- From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 0

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Right on Russell! Has anyone ever measured the spin of a neutrino? Let's get back to basics? Let's consider the following which I assume you fellows believe are true: * Neutrino travel at the speed of light. * Only photons travel at the speed of light. (Except my tronnies that usually go faster

Re: Descriptive Set Theory

2005-10-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Tom, Le 06-oct.-05, à 19:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I've been looking a little into what there is on-line about descriptive set theory, a relatively new field. It seems that with the questions about cardinality and descriptions on this list, that descriptive set theory (Polish spaces b