Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-11 Thread meekerdb
On 6/11/2012 7:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Does it imply that we have an infinite number of levels between mind and physics? You can say that. Imagine yourself in front of the UD. By the invariance of the first person experience for the delays, you have to take into account all computations

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 11 Jun 2012, at 15:14, David Nyman wrote: On 11 June 2012 13:19, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Yes worse. I am very sorry for my random spelling, which becomes easily phonetical when I type too fast. It's only phonetical if you pronounce worth and worse the same way ;-)

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Jun 2012, at 20:57, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 09.06.2012 20:27 Quentin Anciaux said the following: Le 9 juin 2012 20:22, Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru a écrit : ... No, I have meant a) simulated computer b) simulated myself (but not in a) Now I consider a) and b). This is

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following: Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations, emulations, depictions, replications, representations etc. of observations of the physical universe and its processes. This

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following: Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations, emulations, depictions, replications, representations etc. of observations

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following: Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations, emulations,

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following: Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied consciousness can (using computers)

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following: 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following: Using mathematics, computations and

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following: 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Pzomby
On Friday, June 8, 2012 1:36:31 PM UTC-7, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Jun 8, 3:00 pm, Pzomby htra...@gmail.com wrote: Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations, emulations, depictions, replications,

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 09.06.2012 18:07 Quentin Anciaux said the following: 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following: 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 18:07 Quentin Anciaux said the following: 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following: 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 09.06.2012 20:00 Quentin Anciaux said the following: 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 18:07 Quentin Anciaux said the following: 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following: 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread David Nyman
On 9 June 2012 19:22, Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru wrote: No, I have meant a) simulated computer b) simulated myself (but not in a) Now I consider a) and b). This is after all some instructions executed by some Turing machine. It seems that there is no difference. How would you define

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 09.06.2012 20:39 David Nyman said the following: On 9 June 2012 19:22, Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru wrote: No, I have meant a) simulated computer b) simulated myself (but not in a) Now I consider a) and b). This is after all some instructions executed by some Turing machine. It seems

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-09 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Jun 9, 12:08 pm, Pzomby htra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your input.  Some of what you state I follow, but some I do not, but I set that aside. To further clarify: The best analogy as to what I was considering is the role of DNA in biological processes. DNA is coded by/with

Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

2012-06-08 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Jun 8, 3:00 pm, Pzomby htra...@gmail.com wrote: Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations, emulations, depictions, replications, representations etc. of observations of the physical universe and its processes.