antidepressants and suicide

2013-08-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Chaotic Inflation There is indeed a positive association between TCAs and suicide, (how strong it doesn't say) but otherwise there is a negative association. I wouldn't be surprised however, if there was a positive association for ALL antidepressants, as they don't work perfectly

Fw: antidepressants and suicide

2013-08-05 Thread Roger Clough
Sorry I forgot to put in the linK ; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15699293 Hi Chaotic Inflation There is indeed a positive association between TCAs and suicide, (how strong it doesn't say) but otherwise there is a negative association. I wouldn't be surprised however, if there

Re: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx]Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this

2013-08-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Chaotic Inflation More liberal so-called science. These are the nut-jobs that gave us CO2 as the cause of global warming. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough - Receiving the following content - From:

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread Richard Ruquist
Dominic Statham is a creationist. http://creation.com/dominic-statham On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong. The irreducible complexity of DNA. See attached. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]

Re: Fw: antidepressants and suicide

2013-08-05 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Hi Roger, When did you stopped being a depressed, drug dependent, liberal and became an hyperactive conservative? 2013/8/5 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net Sorry I forgot to put in the linK ; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15699293 Hi Chaotic Inflation There is indeed a positive

Leibniz and bacon - because EVERYTHING goes well with both (therefore not off topic)

2013-08-05 Thread freqflyer07281972
A wise man once said (perhaps it was me, I don't know, I wrote it down but lost it during my last blackout): BWAH! GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY WALLET YOU DIRTY FILCHER! Bacon sure is good. And you know what else is good? Leibniz. But when bacon is cooking, I don't smell it, I only smell

cross-posting out of context and psychological manipulation

2013-08-05 Thread freqflyer07281972
Hi person from a totally different forum, I'm just going to post my response to you here in this reading list, even though it has no bearing on anything that they usually (or at least used to, before I came along) talk about here, but subtly suggests that if someone keeps bugging me, I might

Serious Proof of why I'm an Oblivious Moron

2013-08-05 Thread freqflyer07281972
Really?! You need proof? Try: http://everything-list.105.n7.nabble.com/Not-to-worry-about-global-warming-We-re-long-overdue-for-an-ice-age-starting-iimmediately-td39038.html http://everything-list.105.n7.nabble.com/Please-read-me-td39055.html

Re: Fw: antidepressants and suicide

2013-08-05 Thread chris peck
Hi Alby Roger is pro-drugs in the thread below you dozy dipstick. ;) Its the liberal who is arguing for soft headed psycotherapy. its the pharmaceutical company vs. The lilly livered liberal script. Get with the program you silly sausage! --- Original Message --- From: Alberto G. Corona

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong. The irreducible complexity of DNA. See attached. You put no effort into defending your Juvenile ideas so I see no reason why I should put any effort into attacking

Re: Whui I keep posting about Leibniz

2013-08-05 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: in some respects, Roger seems like a shadow version of myself Does he also engage in astrology and numerology? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong. The irreducible complexity of DNA. See attached. You put no effort into defending your

Re: Whui I keep posting about Leibniz

2013-08-05 Thread freqflyer07281972
Clever Robot! On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:41:21 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: in some respects, Roger seems like a shadow version of myself Does he also engage in astrology and numerology? John K

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: if one is to believe in a god that created everything, then one also has to believe that this god was malicious enough to plant an incredible amount of false evidence: the fossil record, Yes, but that's not the

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread Chris de Morsella
Presenting the complexity of getting to DNA directly from a chemical soup is barking up the wrong tree as life probably evolved after it had developed auto catalyzing peptides through a phase of RNA based life. The origins of life most likely used some -- as yet unkown -- simpler information

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:35 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: if one is to believe in a god that created everything, then one also has to believe that this god was malicious enough to plant an incredible

Re: antidepressants and suicide

2013-08-05 Thread spudboy100
In such a case where tci's are not indicated, and ssri's the same, the ancient but improved upon use of ECT needs to be considered-but only if it actually works. -Original Message- From: Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net To: theoretical_physics theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com;

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread spudboy100
If one has to disprove the best of sciences, which appears to be evolutionary adaptation, in order to defend one's religion, then there must be something wrong about the religion. Or at least one's understanding of it. There's no need to beat down Darwin, in order to believe in God.

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread Russell Standish
I will bite on this, because unlike the usual rubbish Roger spouts, this is more on topic. Fortunately, it doesn't stand up to criticism. The argument is that because the standard genetic code is well optimised against error correction, and because changes to the code will be highly disruptive,

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread Chris de Morsella
Science labs are creating XNAs (or xeno-nucleic acids) some of which (anhydrohexitol nucleic acid ) can be run through directed evolution and fold into biologically useful forms. Life on earth uses DNA (now after billions of years of evolution); however life likely first originated using much

Re: Fw: antidepressants and suicide

2013-08-05 Thread Alberto G. Corona
My question is serious. I know that Roger was atheist liberal guy which was dependent on antidepressive drugs and in a certain moment he became conservative very active at least in this list. I want to know when why and how. You somekind something 2013/8/5 chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:35 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: if one is to believe in a god that created

RE: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread chris peck
Hello Dr. Standish If I may play devil's advocate for a post it seems to me that the question over duration required for an optimized system to evolve is only a minor aspect of the argument presented in this paper. More seriously it concerns the mechanics of such an evolution. To use a

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 01:46:44AM +, chris peck wrote: Hello Dr. Standish If I may play devil's advocate for a post it seems to me that the question over duration required for an optimized system to evolve is only a minor aspect of the argument presented in this paper. More

Re: Serious proof of why the theory of evolution is wrong

2013-08-05 Thread meekerdb
On 8/5/2013 6:21 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: It allows annoys me how christians justify all the suffering and overall shittiness of existence with: ah, but that is necessary because God wanted us to have free will. He apparently also wanted us to have leukemia, AIDS, plague, tsunamis, volcanoes,