Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread Kim Jones
On 8 May 2014, at 3:09 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: As hopefully the above will demonstrate, if I managed to upload the picture... Apparently not. Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
What if God is a Boltzmann Brain? He is likely not, but what they heck, it's a shot at looking at the issue from another angle. Another thought, is thing of the Big Mind (shrug) as doing the multiverse using the Schrodinger universal wave function, and allow me to use hugh evertt the 3rd's

Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Any theory that stand over non intelligent axioms has to accept an infinity of multiverses, That may be refined, taking into account information=0 etc, but I will not go further on that. That multiverse must include among other things the universes with gods , and the universes with goods that

Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: Any theory that stand over non intelligent axioms has to accept an infinity of multiverses, That may be refined, taking into account information=0 etc, but I will not go further on that. I would say that the

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Clark
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote: I must say however that I am not aware of any portion of my theory that is at odds with observation. Then I can only conclude that you're not aware of much, especially elementary physics. You say my theory does not

Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:40:58 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Alberto G. Corona agoc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: In this -single universe- context, the fine tuning of the physical constants are miracles by the way, so the hypothesis is true.

Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: On Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:40:58 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Alberto G. Corona agoc...@gmail.comwrote: In this -single universe- context, the fine tuning of the physical

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
I have math to prove that the integrated Coulomb forces between the two tronnies in an entron, one +e and one –e, traveling in a circle at (pi/2)c exactly cancel in the diametrical direction. The entron can have any size from 0.9339 X 10-18 m to a few centimeters. My entrons are the basic

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
To answer your question: A neutrino photon is a neutrino entron traveling in a circle at a speed of 2c and forward at a speed of c; just like every other photon is an entron traveling in a circle at a speed of 2c and forward at a speed of c. The electrons, positrons, protons alpha particles are

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
The neutrino entron disappears in pair production, but it reappears in annihilation. There is no violation of conservation of energy! From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:09 PM To:

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
(sorry if you get that mail twice. problem mails, coming from the provider now. This was answered thursday morning) On 07 May 2014, at 17:39, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-05-07 17:20 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 07 May 2014, at 11:41, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 May 2014, at 17:39, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-05-07 17:20 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 07 May 2014, at 11:41, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-05-07 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 06 May 2014, at 20:22, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: snip

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 May 2014, at 21:55, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:53:54 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 May 2014, at 21:38, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, May 5, 2014 10:26:27 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: Then you can study how to define sequence in that theory. Only

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread meekerdb
On 5/8/2014 6:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 May 2014, at 17:39, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-05-07 17:20 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 07 May 2014, at 11:41, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-05-07 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
There is nothing wrong with the standard model and relativity theories. The question is are they perfect? The other question is: Is there a better theory? Congratulations to you for looking at my summary at Amazon.com. I assume you saw my quote from Stephen Hawking’s Book, The Theory

Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 11:45:32 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: On Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:40:58 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Alberto G. Corona

Re: Modal logic (derivation of physics sum up till end)

2014-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 May 2014, at 00:35, LizR wrote: On 6 May 2014 06:54, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Craig, Liz, Brent and/or anyone interested, Again, it is just an attempt. Take it easy. I have to train myself, and a bit yourself. You might tell me if this helps, if only a little bit.

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
The neutrino photon disappears in the course of pair production. When the positron created in pair production combines with an electron and they are annihilated a neutrino photon is released in the process. So there is conservation of mass-energy. Also there are six tronnies in the three

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote: The neutrino photon disappears in the course of pair production. First of all there is no such thing as a neutrino photon. Second of all one photon all by itself never turns into a electron and a positron, you need 2

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread Richard Ruquist
JR: The Coulomb force also provides the gravity holding galaxies together. RR: What, there is not even gravity in your theory? On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.comwrote: There is nothing wrong with the standard model and relativity theories. The question is are

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-08 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:56:44 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 May 2014, at 21:55, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:53:54 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 May 2014, at 21:38, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, May 5, 2014 10:26:27 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 May 2014, at 18:52, meekerdb wrote: On 5/8/2014 6:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 May 2014, at 17:39, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-05-07 17:20 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 07 May 2014, at 11:41, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-05-07 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 May 2014, at 17:46, John Ross wrote: I have math to prove that the integrated Coulomb forces between the two tronnies in an entron, one +e and one -e, traveling in a circle at (pi/2)c exactly cancel in the diametrical direction. The entron can have any size from 0.9339 X 10-18 m

Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
Why does this sort of thing never work for me? It's almost like a higher power is determined to stop me. OK, let's try again... (​Or does God lie awake at nights wondering where HE came from?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group.

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
I'd just like to check that this isn't an elaborate hoax. (You aren't Edgar Owen in disguise, I hope?) I think you need to start your explanation from whatever basic principles you started from, and explain how you reached your conclusions. Just saying the universe works THIS way and expecting

Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread meekerdb
On 5/8/2014 2:51 PM, LizR wrote: Why does this sort of thing never work for me? It's almost like a higher power is determined to stop me. OK, let's try again... (​Or does God lie awake at nights wondering where HE came from?) Q: What's a dyslexic agnostic insomniac? A: Someone who lies

Re: God is an atheist!

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
...or if that's God, barking in the quad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: Modal logic (derivation of physics sum up till end)

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
On 9 May 2014 05:07, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 08 May 2014, at 00:35, LizR wrote: (By the way I think Max Tegmark does a good job of explaining what this means in his book, even if he doesn't get to the reversal. He says you need to assume a capsule theory of memory and talks

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
Three entrons are comprised of a total of six tronnies. An electron and a positron together comprise six tronnnies. The electron and the positron are each comprised of three tronnies. I could have been more precise. John R -Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
A 928 MeV photon is a very high energy photon. It is off the scale of every chart I have ever seen of the electric magnetic spectrum. Why don’t you send me your chart showing your 500 GeV photon. John R. From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com]

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
So anyway, what is your reasoning? What premises and logical steps led you to think the world is built this way? On 9 May 2014 12:39, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote: A 928 MeV photon is a very high energy photon. It is off the scale of every chart I have ever seen of the electric

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
My theory does not violate conservation of mass-energy. It does not deal with Lepton number. How do you know neutrinos have a Lepton number of 1? How do you know neutrinos exists? Have you ever seen one? I don’t believe neutrinos exist. I have never seen proof that they exist. Do you

Re: Modal logic (derivation of physics sum up till end)

2014-05-08 Thread meekerdb
On 5/8/2014 5:22 PM, LizR wrote: On 9 May 2014 05:07, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 08 May 2014, at 00:35, LizR wrote: (By the way I think Max Tegmark does a good job of explaining what this means in his book, even if he doesn't get to the

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
Of course there is gravity. Gravity is produce in Black Holes which consume a portion of its galaxy to produce proton-antiproton annihilations which releases the neutrino entrons in both particles. These neutrino entrons ultimately exit the Black Holes to provide the gravity holding the

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
On 9 May 2014 13:03, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote: My understanding is that current scientific thinking has our Universe expanding to 40 % of its current size in a very short time period. This sounds like something was traveling faster than the speed of light. My book contains

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
On 9 May 2014 13:15, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote: Of course there is gravity. Gravity is produce in Black Holes which consume a portion of its galaxy to produce proton-antiproton annihilations which releases the neutrino entrons in both particles. These neutrino entrons

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread Russell Standish
Ah - do you mean that a collision of three entrons gives rise to a positon-electron pair creation? How does that describe the observed positron-electron pair creation from a pair of photons? Are photons composed of 3 tronnies as well? Cheers On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 05:32:46PM -0700, John Ross

Re: Modal logic (derivation of physics sum up till end)

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
On 9 May 2014 13:05, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 5/8/2014 5:22 PM, LizR wrote: On 9 May 2014 05:07, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 08 May 2014, at 00:35, LizR wrote: (By the way I think Max Tegmark does a good job of explaining what this means in his book, even

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
Thanks for your thoughts. A tronnie is a point particle with a charge of plus e or minus e. This means that each tronnie is a source of the Coulomb force. The Coulomb force travels at the speed of light. Tronnies attract unlike tronnies and repel like tronnies because of their charge of e.

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
So anyway, what is your reasoning? So far you have only supplied blanket statements such as A tronnie is a point particle with a charge of plus e or minus e.. What premises did you start from, and what logical steps have led you to think the world is built in the way described by your theory? --

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 06:03:49PM -0700, John Ross wrote: My theory does not violate conservation of mass-energy. It does not deal with Lepton number. How do you know neutrinos have a Lepton number of 1? How do you know neutrinos exists? Have you ever seen one? I don’t believe

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread John Ross
I am a patent attorney. During the past 13 years I have documented my theory at eight times in its development by filing patent applications attempting to patent process for modeling things like electrons. My applications have been repeatedly rejected by the USPTO. However, they have in the

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-08 Thread LizR
On 9 May 2014 14:06, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote: I am a patent attorney. During the past 13 years I have documented my theory at eight times in its development by filing patent applications attempting to patent process for modeling things like electrons. My applications have