Hi Stephen P. King
Perhaps they fly apart because they are a little warm
which causes vibrations and there is nothing to hold them together.
One will probably have put a little "spin" on them as well.
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11/10/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
There's no mystery. That's presumably how a machine packed
them during manufacture.
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11/10/2012
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Hi Bruno Marchal
Not to be rude, but how can numbers alone create theories ?
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11/9/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
I'll put up with the physical world,
considering the alternative.
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Hi Stephen P. King
I fall back on my experiment with crackers.
Nothing stays perfect if allowed to be free and
time passes.
Boltzmann's theorem S = k ln(W) quantifies that,
it emerges from statistical mechanics.
A more thorough explanation is given on:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/st
Hi Stephen P. King
Contingent ordering is what happens to perfection, given time.
Because of entropy.
But nobody knows why.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Get a box of crackers with the crackers all lined perfectly up inside.
That's Platonia.
Now invert the box and let the crackers fall, scattering on the
floor and some even breaking. That's our contingent world.
Nobody knows why, but that's the way time works.
Roger Clough,
Hi Stephen P. King
The only two necessary requirements to be a conservative
are that you are fiscally conservative and are
ready to defend your country. Aggressive warfare is out.
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11/9/2012
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Hi meekerdb
So how does Platonia's perfect necessary classes restrain or
contain this world of contingency ? Or does it ?
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11/8/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
There are no accidents in Platonia.
There are also perfect parabolas, because
Platonia is the realm of necessary logic,
of pure reason and math, which are inextended.
Thrown earthly objects are extended and
thus fly contingently, since spin, humidity and
dust particles can
Hi Stephen P. King
Who are these entities and how can they exist
a priori as does 2+2=4 ?
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11/8/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
Libertarians aren't weird.
They're essentially conservatives without a military.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Sounds reasonable.
Being a conservative, however, I tend to adopt orthodox views
such as that of Leibniz (to my mind at least) and the Bible.
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11/7/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
That sounds like Leibniz. Each monad contains the
views of all of the other monads in order to see
the whole, not from just one perspective.
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11/7/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
Your criticism might be valid, but I never made the claim that Berkeley
is said to have made. Leibniz, possibly more like you,
would never have made such a claim. Leibniz believed that God
is purposeful (caused things to happen at least partially due
to end causes).
Roger
Hi Stephen P. King
So that by believing that God exists, He exists ?
Or believing that 2 + 2 = 5 makes it so ?
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11/6/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
What happens if I mistake a statue of a beautiful woman
for the real thing, thus turning, eg, a statue of pygmalion into an
actual woman ?
Or mistake fool's gold or gold foiled chocolates
for actual gold coins ?
Does the world actually become cloudy if I have cataracts ?
Hi Stephen P. King
How about those that are deaf, dumb and blind ?
They've never seen the moon for example.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Even Berkeley had to admit that no forest, no whatever..
was foolishness and so said that in that case, God
observed it. Get real.
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Stephen,
My new understanding of realism is that
according to it, what happens in this world is
not created by our minds, but created by a
higher power. It could have happened
without us.
That concerns events. Truth, according to
realism, is also mind-independent.
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Hi Stephen P. King
OK, let me rephrase the question. If a tree
falls in the forest with nobody to observe it, will
it end up on the ground ?
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Hi Stephen P. King
A tape recorder could prove your theory wrong.
Berkeley finally gave in and said that realism
was acceptable because God could see or hear it.
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11/5/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
Thanks for supporting the majesty of the One,
but I think the One, like God, needs a theodicy.
They both cause everything that happens, but for some
reason, all of the results down here are not perfect (are contingent).
I don't know why that happens, but I look all around
me
Hi Stephen P. King
Infallibility isn't involved. The typical textbook
explanation for realism is, "if a tree falls in a
forest and nobody is there to hear it, would it
make a sound?"
A realist (such as me) would say "yes."
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/5/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
1) I don't understand your application of "infinite regress"
to the One. The One is something like an intellectual white hole
from which all comes, to invent a description.
2) As far as E = mc^2 goes, yes, theory can change,
but the underlying phenomena do not.
Roger Cloug
Hi Stephen P. King
A truth exists dependent only on the One, who
creates all truth. But not on other minds:
E=mc^2 before man arrived, from the very getgo (and before),
and will remain after man.
Truth is foreign to us.
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