PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, you are correct Ed. I cannot prove the obvious. I cannot prove that an
apple is red or that the sky is blue or that you live on the planet
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
First, I never said I was a master logician. This is simply another in a
long line of dozens of mischaracterizations of my posts that proves the
fact that you either cannot read, cannot comprehend what you read, choose
to embelish what you read or assume
I cannot prove that an apple is red - well they're not if it's a
granny smith
nor that the sky is blue - quite often isn't in Blighty!
Happy Holidays - Peace and Goodwill to all men eh!
;-)
This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to
whom it is
and Bricked Backups!T
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
First, I never said I was a master logician. This is simply
]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, you are correct Ed. I cannot prove the obvious. I cannot prove
that an apple is red or that the sky is blue
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Ed, you apparently have never had children that continually ask why.
Oh, but I do. And I answer them to the best of my ability. Perhaps you
should do the same.
Why do you exist? Because it is obvious that you exist, you would not be
standing here
I cannot prove that an apple is red
Of course not..Granny Smith's are GREEN.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, you are correct Ed. I cannot prove the obvious. I cannot prove that an
apple is red
: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Sweet. Just when the Greg/Ed spamfest was dying down, we get a revival.
Excellent middle schoolFight Fight/middle school
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL
on?
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 December 2003 00:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
People mis-characterize and read things into my posts that are not
there. This one I have to do in-line.
First of all, I've seen
Opps sorry my bad - only just read this one.
-Original Message-
From: Boyd, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 December 2003 01:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
The next person who wants to add something to this thread, please send
your
Dude, STFU
--steve
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
People mis-characterize and read things into my posts
Well said...this has gone on way too long and is making everybody
involved look bad.
Happy Holidays all,
- Matt
-Original Message-
From: Boyd, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise
from GroupWise 6.5
People mis-characterize and read things into my posts that are not there.
This one I have to do in-line.
First of all, I've seen plenty of statements by people who accurately
depict
reasons that your opinion is bunk. You've either not read or not
comprehended them
For crying out loud, drop it already! Nobody cares! Sheesh.
Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Greg,
Ever go
:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
For crying out loud, drop it already! Nobody cares! Sheesh.
Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:45 AM
.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I will state this again for the 11 millionth and 1 time now. Accepting
direct gifts from third
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Boy, I hate to jump in, but perhaps I can end this...
Greg, in the absolute, you are correct. Accepting *anything* of *any*
value whatsoever from third parties that stand to gain from your
relationship to your client could be considered a breach of ethics
.
Nathan
-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
You can always delete these emails if you arent interested.
-Original Message-
From: Boyd, Nathan
]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
This is not the platform for these type of debates. This is a professional
forum about Exchange.
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=ethics
Many forums will discuss this stuff, go
on topic for this list. Funny how life's like that
sometime, isn't it?
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Who says? Feel free to ask for your
, December 18, 2003 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Truly. I would much rather read off-topic posts, which this list has a
history and culture of tolerating, than have to read the Quit posting
off-topic messages messages, which are off-topic themselves
, 2003 2:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: WAS RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 NOW my bad - sorry
Opps sorry my bad - only just read this one.
-Original Message-
From: Boyd, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 December 2003 01:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Just to throw some salt in the wounds, the Federal Government has a law that
states
AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, really. Laws are designed to define the floor. Ethics are designed to
define the ceiling.
No, I am simply someone that has a particular view of things that people
seem to be utterly fascinated with and keep bringing it up
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I never asked you to modify your behavior. Do what you want. It is a GOOD
thing for me that people do not have my particular views
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Ed, honestly, WTF does this have to do with ANYTHING? My list of credentials
is longer than yours?? I
:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I adding this subject line to my x-wall..
PLEASE STOP!
-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
To never accept compensation from vendors for recommending products
H... I get it now!!! All of the MVP's RECOMMEND MS products on the
various newsgroups, they don't actually SUPPORT
Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
You still haven't demonstrated that the Conflict of Interest exists.
=20
When you work in an industry and accept gifts from vendors in that industry,
that is a conflict
Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I have no interest in winning.
Can this thread please go away...You're not going to win Greg...
_
John Bowles
Exchange Engineer
OIG/HHS
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From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Fortuitous, that.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
, of course.
Jim H
-Original Message-
From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Truly. I would much rather read off-topic posts, which this list has a
history and culture
!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
People mis-characterize and read things into my posts that are not there.
This one
, Nathan
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 5:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
The next person who wants to add something to this thread, please send your
message directly to those who have demonstrated they care. It might be a
little hard work the first time
] On Behalf Of Boyd, Nathan
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP,
STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP, STOP,STOP,
STOP,STOP, STOP
Of Boyd, Nathan
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
This is not the platform for these type of debates. This is a professional
forum about Exchange.
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=ethics
Many forums will discuss this stuff
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
This forum should be 99% Exchange, when it is more like 30% it becomes
pointless for the majority of subscribers. I am a professional who works
with Exchange; I use this forum for work. It is the responsibility of those
who wish
Discussions
Subject: WAS: [Migrating from GroupWise 6.5] NOW: Complete waste of time!
Just in-case some of you just recently tuned in, the current score is:
Ed: 46,298
Deckler:0
Keep up the good work guys!
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd
Well, it's obviously not Deckler...
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: [Migrating from GroupWise 6.5] NOW: Complete waste of time!
But who's keeping score?
Ed Crowley MCSE
PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
People mis-characterize and read things into my posts that are not there.
This one I have to do in-line.
First of all, I've seen plenty of statements by people who
You sir, are absolutely, 100% correct. Why others cannot understand this
basic point is well beyond my ability to comprehend but I'm glad someone
out there gets it.
Boy, I hate to jump in, but perhaps I can end this...
Greg, in the absolute, you are correct. Accepting *anything* of *any*
Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I never asked you
Yes, you are correct Ed. I cannot prove the obvious. I cannot prove that
an apple is red or that the sky is blue or that you live on the planet
that orbits a sun. If you are not willing to accept the obvious, then I
will never be able to prove anything to you.
Likewise, and more importantly
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, you are correct Ed. I cannot prove the obvious. I cannot prove that
an apple is red or that the sky is blue or that you live on the planet
that orbits a sun. If you are not willing to accept the obvious, then I
will never be able to prove anything
Oh for f**ks sake get over this. At the end of the day we are *only* IT
Professionals providing a service. We're not that important in the
bigger picture. Sure, some will abuse their position and that's a not
too nice part of human nature - greed and nepotism. Full stop. It
happens all the
GD wrote: Accepting
direct gifts from third parties, especially significant gifts such as
large dollar items and titles, presents a real or perceived conflict of
interest between an IT professional's client (either the customer or
company that he or she works for) and that third party.
Well I
player-of-the-season award
Nice analogy
This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to
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between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any
Dude, STFU.
--steve
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I will state this again for the 11 millionth and 1 time now. Accepting
direct
E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I
Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Titles are priceless.
Ethics are about avoiding real and *perceived* conflicts of interest. If you
work in an industry and accept gifts from vendors in that industry, it is
always going to at least be a perceived conflict of interest. Whether
: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Titles are priceless.
Ethics are about avoiding real and *perceived* conflicts of interest. If you
work in an industry and accept gifts from vendors in that industry, it is
always going to at least be a perceived conflict of interest. Whether it
actually
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Personal attacks are generally the clearest sign that someone has lost an
argument and has nothing better to say. So now I am a wife beater, a liar, I
starve children and I get
will be unethical in nature...
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Personal attacks are generally the clearest sign that someone has lost an
argument
Dude, STFU.
--steve
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Titles are priceless.
Ethics are about avoiding real
: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
What was it then, a compliment? You cannot even be honest in your
criticism.
And ethics are not passed as laws. There is no law that a company's
employees cannot accept gifts. The ethics that lawyers and doctors
follow are also not laws.
This discussion is about
Goes double from me.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Hanna
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Dude, STFU.
--steve
-Original Message
to call them...
NEXT!
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
What was it then, a compliment? You cannot even be honest in your criticism.
And ethics
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Titles are priceless.
Ethics are about avoiding real and *perceived* conflicts of interest. If you
work in an industry
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
What was it then, a compliment? You cannot even be honest in your criticism.
And ethics are not passed as laws
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
What was it then, a compliment? You cannot even be honest in your criticism.
And ethics are not passed
and afford. Why hire a consultant, if not for their knowledge?
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Titles are priceless.
Ethics are about
: 972.772.7510
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Oh, that was not a personal attack... And I don't lose arguments...
I tell ya what. You find me
, December 17, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
What was it then, a compliment? You cannot even be honest in your criticism.
And ethics are not passed as laws. There is no law that a company's
employees cannot accept gifts. The ethics that lawyers
: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Dude, STFU.
--steve
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Titles are priceless.
Ethics
:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
This is the BEST group, ever. I don't have to watch the soaps. All I've
got to do is read this list!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent
I never asked you to modify your behavior. Do what you want. It is a GOOD
thing for me that people do not have my particular views on ethics. I have
won clients and I keep clients, in part, based on my ethics. My clients
know that come heck or high water, I am going to be fanactically loyal to
my
...
Severely lacking...
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, really. Laws are designed to define the floor. Ethics are designed to
define the ceiling
Ed, honestly, WTF does this have to do with ANYTHING? My list of
credentials is longer than yours?? I mean, sure, what the heck. I will
state this in the hopes that we can all move past this.
Everyone, everyone, listen up, here it is:
Ed Crowley has a longer list of credentials than I do. In
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Ed, honestly, WTF does this have to do with ANYTHING? My list of credentials
is longer than yours?? I mean, sure, what the heck. I will state this in the
hopes that we can all move past this.
Everyone, everyone, listen up, here
I adding this subject line to my x-wall..
PLEASE STOP!
-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
DAMN YOU for filling up my Deleted Items bin
Alright, this is a good question. Bottom line is that if, as the hiring
body, you don't care then ethics are irrelevant in your decision and you
do what you want. Ethics do not have to be the end all, be all of decision
making. And, it is also absolutely not the case that MVP's will always
.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel: 972.772.7501
fax: 972.772.7510
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Oh, that was not a personal attack... And I
, and your ability to work with others...
Severely lacking...
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, really. Laws are designed to define
Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I never asked you to modify your behavior. Do what you want. It is a
GOOD thing for me that people do not have my particular views on ethics.
I have won clients and I keep
As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get any freebies?
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Alright, this is a good question. Bottom line
http://www.infonition.com/marathon.shtml
Interesting.
-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get
I used to work for a MS partner and they definitely got freebies!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
As a Microsoft
Dude, STFU
--steve
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, really. Laws are designed to define the floor. Ethics
are designed
Thanks alot guys. You have me considereing to start smoking again and drink
more than socially
From: Steve Hanna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:41:40
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Alright, this is a good question. Bottom line is that if, as
the hiring
body, you don't care then ethics are irrelevant in your
decision and you
do what you want
6.5
http://www.infonition.com/marathon.shtml
Interesting.
-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get
Is there an MVP award for Chimps or the Abacus for that matter?
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
You still haven't demonstrated that the Conflict
2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
To never accept compensation from vendors for recommending products
H... I get it now!!! All of the MVP's RECOMMEND MS products on the
various newsgroups, they don't actually SUPPORT the products...
See Ed, you've
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Is there an MVP award for Chimps or the Abacus for that matter?
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating
Yes, we pay Microsoft to be a partner and get freebies.
As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get any freebies?
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from
You still haven't demonstrated that the Conflict of Interest exists. =20
When you work in an industry and accept gifts from vendors in that
industry, that is a conflict of interest.
Where's the conflict in me (an MS-leaning IT manager) hiring a
MS-knowledgeable person to implement MS-based
I have no interest in winning.
Can this thread please go away...You're not going to win Greg...
_
John Bowles
Exchange Engineer
OIG/HHS
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, December 17, 2003 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
=20
=20
As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get any freebies?
=20
=20
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From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:18
OpenBSD and 4 Linux, with 2 more Linux boxes due early next year
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From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, really. Laws are designed to define
So Microsoft are unethical because they accepted payments from you?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: 17 December 2003 20:42
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, we pay
And, in the interest of full disclosure, two of the three accolades in
my signature line are from Microsoft, obviously the last two. The first
(MTS) was bestowed by my employer. Does that mean I'm instantly biased
towards my employer?
I'm biased towards my employer and they didn't even give me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Schorr
Sent: 17 December 2003 21:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
And, in the interest of full disclosure, two of the three
accolades in
my signature
Then quit beating this dead horse
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I have no interest in winning.
Can
Dude, STFU.
--steve
-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Yes, we did a phenomenal job for Marathon and Microsoft, without or
knowledge
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Schorr
Sent: 17 December 2003 21:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
952-841-3327 Direct
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
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From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I thought Hawaii banned
: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I thought Hawaii banned unions?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
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From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday
:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ben Schorr
Sent: 17 December 2003 21:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from
will just get drawn into the quagmire of
his Drewness...er, Gregness.
:::sigh::: Let it die people.
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From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Oh my! I'm hurt
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