[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2005, at 6:15 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Don't know about the Hindu/Tibetan hells, but the Christian hell is > > often considered impossible to escape from, or at least exceedingly > > difficult. > > Time is very s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that the only way through misery to experience the expanse of life as good is to recognize its elemental goodness and realize that it's the mere delusory evaluation of the intellect which ascribes values to nat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I would like to ask all the "awakened ones" on this group about how > > many have had similar "stories" in their lives, and how many

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Hell that you speak of and the realm that is sought to control, > is right here on the earth; as you can observe in the miriad hellish > situations and conditions, on this planet at the present time, and > in

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma (Mocking the Master)

2005-08-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am speaking mostly of healings, consciousness-shifts and the like > -- in which the observer/healee has a very important part to play. > Other sidhis, like weather-changing, appear to depend much less on > whoever i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Hell that you speak of and the realm that is sought to control, > is right here on the earth; as you can observe in the miriad hellish > situations and conditions, on this planet at the present time, and > i

[FairfieldLife] Just killing time...VI 16

2005-08-16 Thread cardemaister
Loads of examples of "interesting" sandhis: naatyashnatas tu yogo' sti na caikaantam anashnataH na caati svapna-shiilasya jaagrato naiva caarjuna (na; ati; ashnataH; tu; yogaH; asti; na; ca; ekaantam; anashnataH; na; ca; ati; svapna-shiilasya; jaagrataH; na; eva; ca; arjuna) Maharishi's trans

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "spara

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Time is relative)

2005-08-16 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Aug 16, 2005, at 6:15 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > Don't know about the Hindu/Tibetan hells, but the Christian hell is > > > often con

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Peeps, It's been real fun but tomorrow I'm going on vacation for > two weeks so try to get through the day without me. Love - Llun

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Love/Hate Maharishi

2005-08-16 Thread Robert Gimbel
Originally the goal was stated as: Spiritual Regeneration of the World; And that still seems like the best way to frame the goal, if we are seeking an enlightened world. In my mind this idea of Spiritual Regeneration is a good way to describe the goal; Perhaps through the years, spiritual regen

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Hate Maharishi/I Love Maharishi...

2005-08-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I was in school, public school, I remember they read a passage > from the Bible, sometimes in the morning; I rather enjoyed that > moment of spiritual reflection, even as a child. > I suppose, they would ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread Robert Gimbel
All we need now is Michelangelo... > > I wonder what would really happen if the TMO got > > enough money for its plans to rebuild the world? My > > guess is pretty much nothing! > > > > It's gotten quite a bit of money recently - over $100 million on > millionaire and raj courses, looks like o

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Hate Maharishi/I Love Maharishi...

2005-08-16 Thread Robert Gimbel
When I was in school, public school, I remember they read a passage from the Bible, sometimes in the morning; I rather enjoyed that moment of spiritual reflection, even as a child. I suppose, they would have found TM to be a religion, as has been said, no matter how it had been presented. Now,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll be staying in Middlebury. The Buddhist thing is in Bristol. Love Vermont. Middlebury has one of the country's leading language schools...you can go there for the summer, take a Japanese Immersion Class and spe

[FairfieldLife] Nepal prisons?

2005-08-16 Thread sparaig
I read lots of folks on this forum who say that MMY's grandiose schemes yield nothing. Perhaps people familiar with Nepal can tell me if the TMO ever did teach virtually all prison inmates to meditate as was claimed? If so, did the prison system change as was claimed? If so, doesn't this valida

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
OK, good info.Thanks     - Original Message - From: gullible fool To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation Llundrub, I'm getting your emails again! For somestrange reason, yahoo would not let any through the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
I'll be staying in Middlebury. The Buddhist thing is in Bristol.   - Original Message - From: shempmcgurk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairwell to Britain/Demonstation of Effect

2005-08-16 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel that part of the reason, that Maharishi took this > action, was to contrast the effect of removing meditators > from an area, and see if the predicted results, of increased > chaos, would occur. > As we have s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread gullible fool
Llundrub, I'm getting your emails again! For some strange reason, yahoo would not let any through the past few weeks, but I did read many of them at the group home page. Have a nice vacation. You're coming to my end of the country. Visit Vermont in late September some time, for the fall foliage.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2005, at 7:23 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > Granted both Heaven and Hell exist here on Earth. Nonetheless, each > > seems to exist separately too. Does anyone have a book to recommend > > that would enumerate an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If by any means you can get a copy of _Leela: Game of Knowledge_ by > Harish Johari, grab one. Yeah it contains detailed descriptions of all > the lokas--but by far the best thing about it is that it contains a > fold out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. Going to Vermont for a Buddhist thing. Which part of Vermont? > > > - Original Message - > From: jyouells2000 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:06 PM > Su

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2005, at 6:15 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Don't know about the Hindu/Tibetan hells, but the Christian hell is > > often considered impossible to escape from, or at least exceedingly > > difficult. > > Time is very s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairwell to Britain/Demonstation of Effect

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel that part of the reason, that Maharishi took this action, was > to contrast the effect of removing meditators from an area, and see > if the predicted results, of increased chaos, would occur. > As we hav

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
You are only allowed to read the following paragraph on one in- breath! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Global Country of World Peace Maharishi Celebrates 50 Years of His Spiritual Regeneration Movement Launches Global Reconstruction Program to Create P

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-violence and when waging war is justified

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > We could have outsmarted Al Queda by feeding

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
On Aug 16, 2005, at 7:23 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > Granted both Heaven and Hell exist here on Earth. Nonetheless, each > seems to exist separately too. Does anyone have a book to recommend > that would enumerate and describe a cognition of them, with distinct > characteristics for each Heaven and

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
Thanks   - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> Hey Peeps, It's been real fun but tomorrow

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
Thanks   - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> Hey Peeps, It's been real fun but tomor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
Yep. We'll go see Kunzang Dechen Lingpa and do a bit of hiking and see some Americana.     - Original Message - From: Kenny H To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation Now hang on a second, I thought you were on

[FairfieldLife] ] Lost in your own mind

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
Sent to a Christian who thought PokeMan was evil.From: Steve WiglesworthSent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:09 AMTo: 'Subject: Lost in your own mindIf liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell peoplewhat they do not want to hear.-George Orwell"Either God wants to abolish evil, a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
Thanks.  Going to Vermont for a Buddhist thing.     - Original Message - From: jyouells2000 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Hell that you speak of and the realm that is sought to control, > is right here on the earth; as you can observe in the miriad hellish > situations and conditions, on this planet at the present time, and > in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Peeps, It's been real fun but tomorrow I'm going on vacation for two weeks so try to get through the day without me. Love - Llundrub Have a great time! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Dying

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
On Aug 16, 2005, at 6:23 PM, sparaig wrote: > Again,understand that i am not that freaked about > my mom being gone (after the initial shock and all), but mostly about > the ongoing stress of dealing with the remnant. Ihave read that she may > rally briefly at the end, but perhaps that already ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Kenny H
Now hang on a second, I thought you were on vacation already, is this a vacation from your vacation? kh --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Peeps, It's been real fun but tomorrow I'm going on vacation for two weeks so try to get through the day without

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Starting to sound like a Dr. Bronner's Soap label! > And every bit as true!!! Seriously, this is what MMY has said for decades, just not quite as stream-of-consciousness in the press releases. > --- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECT

[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Dying

2005-08-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lawson, the Ram Das video is at: > > http://homepage.mac.com/vajranatha/FileSharing2.html Thanks. I'll watch. Again,understand that i am not that freaked about my mom being gone (after the initial shock and all), but mostly a

[FairfieldLife] Lawson's Mom

2005-08-16 Thread jyouells2000
I can empathize. My younger brother passed a few years back. Your mom appreciates your and your brothers help. (My mom is a retired hospice nurse.) I hope it goes as smoothly as it can. I know it doesn't help much, but my thoughts are with you and your mom. JohnY

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
On Aug 16, 2005, at 6:15 PM, sparaig wrote: > Don't know about the Hindu/Tibetan hells, but the Christian hell is > often considered impossible to escape from, or at least exceedingly > difficult. Time is very slow there. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-->

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:32 PM, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > > Located in 'kamaloka' (desire world) in the lowest devision of > the > > > astra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone against abortion in order to choose gender?

2005-08-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, if abortion on demand is okay with you, certainly you have no > objections to abortions in order to determine the gender of your > child, do you? > > In other words, if you're looking to have "excellent male

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
I think that the only way through misery to experience the expanse of life as good is to recognize its elemental goodness and realize that it's the mere delusory evaluation of the intellect which ascribes values to nature, but then humankind, caught up in the intellectual evaluation falls

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Peeps, It's been real fun but tomorrow I'm going on vacation for two weeks so try to get through the day without me. Love - Llundrub Hey - Have a great time!! JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponso

Re: [FairfieldLife] news from Global country

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
That was funny.   - Original Message - From: Peter To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] news from Global country Starting to sound like a Dr. Bronner's Soap label!--- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Global Countr

Re: [FairfieldLife] news from Global country

2005-08-16 Thread Peter
Starting to sound like a Dr. Bronner's Soap label! --- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Global Country of World Peace Maharishi Celebrates > 50 Years of His Spiritual Regeneration Movement > Launches Global Reconstruction Program to Create > Permanent World Peace Builders, Developers, > Financi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Peeps, It's been real fun but tomorrow I'm going on vacation for two weeks so try to get through the day without me. Love - Llundrub Two weeks without Llundrub?! Man, I'm jonesin already ... seriously, have a grea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread Robert Gimbel
The Hell that you speak of and the realm that is sought to control, is right here on the earth; as you can observe in the miriad hellish situations and conditions, on this planet at the present time, and in the long history of the human race. It seems to be an energy that continues to seek to d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Death and Dying

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
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[FairfieldLife] Vacation

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
Hey Peeps, It's been real fun but tomorrow I'm going on vacation for two weeks so try to get through the day without me.  Love - Llundrub To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Located in 'kamaloka' (desire world) in the lowest > > devision of the > > > a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to ask all the "awakened ones" on this group about how > many have had similar "stories" in their lives, and how many were > already awake when they happened? How's your bliss while standing in > your m

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma (Mocking the Master)

2005-08-16 Thread Robert Gimbel
The consciousness of the observer, as you call him/her, is tapped in to the Mass Consciousness, which needs to be overcome. The Mass Consciousness, has certain belief systems, and experiences, that resist being violated. That is why when there is a miracle that does occur, you can see the effec

[FairfieldLife] Fairwell to Britain/Demonstation of Effect

2005-08-16 Thread Robert Gimbel
I feel that part of the reason, that Maharishi took this action, was to contrast the effect of removing meditators from an area, and see if the predicted results, of increased chaos, would occur. As we have seen, in the past weeks, indeed the chaos in Britain has increased. His whole thrust is t

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma (Mocking the Master)

2005-08-16 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > R wrote: > > > > For all I know, neither Moses nor Thomas really "existed." I > > *have* > > > > seen that miracles can occur with doubter

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM offers new biz 6 months free rent

2005-08-16 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > on 8/15/05 5:01 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] news from Global country

2005-08-16 Thread Ron F
Global Country of World Peace Maharishi Celebrates 50 Years of His Spiritual Regeneration Movement Launches Global Reconstruction Program to Create Permanent World Peace Builders, Developers, Financiers Invited to Construct Ideal Vastu Colonies Surrounding Every Major City   His Holiness Maharis

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgu

[FairfieldLife] Jeff Co considers NW Ia county's support for organic farming

2005-08-16 Thread bbrigante
today's http://www.ffledger.com : "A program in Woodbury County that provides tax rebates for farmers converting their lands to organic production was the subject of a brief discussion at Monday's meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Supervisors. Supervisor Steve Burgmeier pres

Re: [FairfieldLife] Death and Dying, was Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread Peter
Nice clear description of Self-inquiry (Atma Vichara) --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/16/05 11:57 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > I have a number of things I'd be glad to share > with you that could help > > in this difficult time. > > > > One is simply an audio se

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-violence and when waging war is justified

2005-08-16 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > We could have outsmarted Al Queda by feeding the hungry all over > > the whole world > > Well, IMHO, America is and has been feeding

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Located in 'kamaloka' (desire world) in the lowest > devision of the > > astral. Here, "the atmosphere of this place is > gloomy, heavy, > dreary, > > depressing to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
On Aug 16, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Vaj wrote: > It's helpful to at least > diminish those patterns which still have a lot of "juice" to them, then > you are attracted so much by your old patterns. Should have been It's helpful to at least diminish those patterns which still have a lot of "juice" to t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > What if one is able to give up the addiction to drugs, alcohol, > excessive food, etc. before dying? Does he still end up in Pretaloka? Complex question. Rebirth is not necessarily linked to a certain action or actions but the primary patterns

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a number of things I'd be glad to share with you that could > help in this difficult time. > > One is simply an audio series on death and dying from the lama who > wrote _The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying_, Sogyal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Defending the Status Quo

2005-08-16 Thread gullible fool
> Last week Kelly Kirkpatrick did try with > an editorial > published on the Fairfield Ledger's opinion page > (Thurs Aug11-05). It > was a noteworthy piece to pop up on the opinion page > because it does > show a mind of the true-believing here yet. Kelly > has been an > activist member of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-16 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:48 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > How is that different from a hell dimension? It sounds pretty > > hellish to me... > > The predominant cause for being there is different, it's heavier, and > the real

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "spara

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is not a hell dimension. Pretaloka is the dimension that > drug addicts, alchoholics, gluttons, etc. can end up in. What if one is able to give up the addiction to drugs, alcohol, excessive food, etc. before dying? D

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread Ingegerd
I was sitting with my mothers bed when she died, meditating. It was very peaceful and when her soul left the body, it was like a whisper in the wind. It was like she just went without looking back. I still miss her, The bond between mother and child is very strong. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLif

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:48 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > How is that different from a hell dimension? It sounds pretty > hellish to me... The predominant cause for being there is different, it's heavier, and the realm itself is very different. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:32 PM, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > Located in 'kamaloka' (desire world) in the lowest devision of the > > astral. Here, "the atmosphere of this place is gloomy, heavy, dreary, > > depressing to an inconcei

[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Dying, was Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread Patrick Gillam
sparaig wrote: > > Frankly, thanks for all the advice on handling my mom's death, but > its not the DEATH that is troubling me so much as watching the dying. > > My mom appears to be all-but-gone already. It's handling the almost > empty shell and all its needs while remembering what the perso

[FairfieldLife] Anyone against abortion in order to choose gender?

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
Hey, if abortion on demand is okay with you, certainly you have no objections to abortions in order to determine the gender of your child, do you? In other words, if you're looking to have "excellent male offspring" and a prenatal scan shows a "girl" fetus, do you have any objections to aborti

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:32 PM, wmurphy77 wrote: > Located in 'kamaloka' (desire world) in the lowest devision of the > astral. Here, "the atmosphere of this place is gloomy, heavy, dreary, > depressing to an inconceivable extent. It seems to reek with all the > influences most inimical to good, as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would like to ask all the "awakened ones" on this group about how > many have had similar "stories" in their lives, and how many were > already awake when they happened? How's your bliss while standing in > your mothe

[FairfieldLife] Let him not think a tall!

2005-08-16 Thread cardemaister
VI 25: shanaiH shanair uparamed buddhyaa dhRti-gRhiitayaa aatma-saMsthaM manaH kRtvaa na kiñcid api cintayet (shanaiH; shanaiH; uparamet; buddhyaa; dhRti-gRhiitayaa; aatma-saMstham; manaH; kRtvaa; na; kiñcit; api; cintayet) Maharishi's translation: Let him gradually retire through the inte

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Located in 'kamaloka' (desire world) in the lowest devision of the > astral. Here, "the atmosphere of this place is gloomy, heavy, dreary, > depressing to an inconceivable extent. It seems to reek with all the > infl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-violence and when waging war is justified

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So how does this jibe with the principle of non-violence? > > Where's the non-violence if the threat and fear of the American A- > Bomb is invoked in order to save your people? > > Perhaps the support to resettl

[FairfieldLife] Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-16 Thread wmurphy77
Located in 'kamaloka' (desire world) in the lowest devision of the astral. Here, "the atmosphere of this place is gloomy, heavy, dreary, depressing to an inconceivable extent. It seems to reek with all the influences most inimical to good, as in truth it does, being caused by the persons whose

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR & STARCH

2005-08-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Dying, was Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote: > Frankly, thanks for all the advice on handling my mom's death, but > its not the DEATH that is troubling me so much as watching the dying. > > My mom appears to be all-but-gone already. It's handling the almost > empty shell and all its needs while re

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:07 PM, sparaig wrote: > Thanks Vaj. One moment of cynicism: how does one know if the deceased > has gained enlightenment? You would need to have an appropriate level of realization to witness that. However if one has perfected the process of conscious death, while still l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Dying, was Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/16/05 11:57 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I have a number of things I'd be glad to share with you that could help > > in this difficult time. > > > > One is simply an audio series on death and dying f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a number of things I'd be glad to share with you that could help > in this difficult time. > > One is simply an audio series on death and dying from the lama who > wrote _The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying_, Sogyal

[FairfieldLife] Death and Dying, was Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 8/16/05 11:57 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have a number of things I'd be glad to share with you that could help > in this difficult time. > > One is simply an audio series on death and dying from the lama who > wrote _The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying_, Sogyal Rinpoche. It not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I wonder what would really happen if the TMO got > > > e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-violence and when waging war is justified

2005-08-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Several months ago I saw the film "Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion" > > which is about the Dalai Lama, Tibet, and the forceful occupa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-16 Thread Vaj
I have a number of things I'd be glad to share with you that could help in this difficult time. One is simply an audio series on death and dying from the lama who wrote _The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying_, Sogyal Rinpoche. It not only helps give perspective and solace, but explains dying an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Non-violence and when waging war is justified

2005-08-16 Thread Llundrub
So how does this jibe with the principle of non-violence?Where's the non-violence if the threat and fear of the American A-Bomb is invoked in order to save your people?Perhaps the support to resettle here. Perhaps the resort of American political pressure. It's not merely the threat of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-violence and when waging war is justified

2005-08-16 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Several months ago I saw the film "Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion" > which is about the Dalai Lama, Tibet, and the forceful occupation > and rape of Tibet by the Communist Chinese. > > There is heavy emphasis in the mo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-violence and when waging war is justified

2005-08-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Several months ago I saw the film "Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion" > which is about the Dalai Lama, Tibet, and the forceful occupation > and rape of Tibet by the Communist Chinese. > > There is heavy emphasis in the m

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