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I love everything he says here.
But why, then, does he come up with
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A disciple, who had been with this guru for over
twenty years, caught him in the middle of a sex act
with young boys. He had never
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Bob Ferguson told this story at the Wellesley TM
Center back in the mid-70s, except the disciple was
not Guru Dev and the disciple did not come to a
satsang to convey what he meant. Considering Bob's
memory of
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--- (non-sequiturs, circular reasoning, tautologies, evidence of raw
greed...all comes with the territory of the Neo-Advaitins!!).
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http://www.inner-quest.org/Real_Advaita.htm
The first thing which
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A disciple, who had been with this guru for over
twenty years, caught
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Having now read most of MDG's seemingly endless
rap, it strikes me that, for someone who
claims to be functioning from the level of Self,
there is a great deal of clinging there to the
notion of *path*. He claims to have realized the
Self, but still talks in terms of the things that
keep someone
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When someone takes that many words to say something,
especially on an Internet forum, you can pretty much
rest assured that your life will not be negatively
affected by pressing the Next key without reading it.
You
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't you all get tired of this endless inquiry-sSelf or otherwise?
Wasn't the initial instruction meditate and act without
intellectualizing life?
Wasn't it once Everyday is life, we don't pass up the present based
on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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When someone takes that many words to say something,
especially on an Internet forum, you can pretty much
rest assured that your life will not be
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When someone takes that many words to say something,
especially on an Internet
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It would be wrong to estimate the state
of cosmic consciousness in a man by anything
he displays in the field of action, because
this state accepts every activity, great or small,
and at the same time retains
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Books and magazine articles tend to be written by
real authors,
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Hint: what I have termed a true bhakti, someone
who believed in it thoroughly ...
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My understanding of John Black and how he got on the raja course comes
from a person who was friends with John's sister. I was told that the
Black in Black and Decker tools was John's family/dad who die about a
year or two
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When someone takes that many words to say something,
especially on an Internet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I repeat my theorem. Real bhaktis just live their
lifestyle, quietly. Fake or mood-maker bhaktis tend
to feel that they need to defend it.
snip
You claimed that I said or implied that bhakti should
not be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd
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Could you please tell me what the word bhakti means?
Bhakti is a Sanskrit word which means devotion, adoration, love or
worship of the Divine or the Guru as a manifestation thereof. It can
also mean the love of God toward
Thanks for the perfect analysis. I intentionally did not defend
myself, in order to not give him new food..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So many unsupported assumptions and black-and-white
oversimplifications.
Let me just pick one of them,
on 3/11/06 1:40 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My understanding of John Black and how he got on the raja course comes
from a person who was friends with John's sister. I was told that the
Black in Black and Decker tools was John's family/dad who die about a
year or two ago and left
on 3/11/06 1:54 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't you all get tired of this endless inquiry-sSelf or otherwise?
Wasn't the initial instruction meditate and act without
intellectualizing life?
Wasn't it once Everyday is life, we don't pass up the present based
on the hopes of a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It would be wrong to estimate the state
of cosmic consciousness in a man by anything
he displays in the field of action, because
this state accepts every activity, great or small,
and at the same time retains
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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A disciple, who had been with this guru for over
twenty years,
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THE STRUGGLE OF INDIVIDUALITY TO PERPETUATE ITS ILLUSION
Total snip,
Realizing that one is essentailly a facet of eternal oneness,
should we see duality as a problem and, not enjoy it?
Most people
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A
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Don't you all get tired of this endless inquiry-sSelf or otherwise?
Wasn't the initial instruction meditate and act without
intellectualizing life?
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Don't you all get tired of this endless inquiry-sSelf or otherwise?
Wasn't
Thank you for a very profound explanation, that I appreciate very
much.
Without knowing the term Bhakti - it seems that I the last year
uncounscious has chosen the traditional Bhakti path. I am very aware
of mood-making. But when it comes natural - it feels natural. Not
permanant - maybe in
See how much more effective it is to present the
positive side of your beliefs than to whine about
somebody attacking them?
And didn't it *feel* better?
I rest my case...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd
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Thank you for a very profound explanation, that
SELF-DOUBT AND CYNICISM VS. PROFOUND TRUST
From a Talk by Adyashanti
There is nothing more insidiously destructive to the attainment of
liberation than self-doubt and cynicism. Doubt is a movement of the
conditioned mind that always claims that it's not possible ... that
freedom is not possible
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on 3/11/06 1:40 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My understanding of John Black and how he got on the raja course
comes
from a person who was friends with John's sister. I was told that
the
Black in
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[...]
I
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A
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having now read most of MDG's seemingly endless
rap, it strikes me that, for someone who
claims to be functioning from the level of Self,
there is a great deal of clinging there to the
notion of *path*. He claims to
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On Mar 11, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
We all know from everyday experience that questions (curiosity) gener-
ally can have two very distinct purposes, even in mundane conversation:
1. To actually gain understanding, as sincere inquiries; to create
Sometime in the 1980's, the Libyan Premier, Muamar Gaddafi approached india for two Nuclear Warheads. He said, in return he would supply unlimited amount of Oil. The Indian government wisely refused the offer.Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006
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Michael, have you ever heard the expression, Get a life?
That was meant completely sincerely.
LOL. But you miss the point of Michael's definitions,
Sal. *You* don't get to decide whether your question
is sincere or
Someone called Gerbil accused Maharishi of taking our own teachings and giving it back to us.?? His teachings got better and better over time.?? Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:00:40 -0600Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Fatigue of the Non-Self I believe
Please Note, the Vanarahs of Monkeys are incarnations of Devas. Vali was the incarnation of indra the king of the Devas. Hanuman incarnation of Vayu and so on. Ravana got a boon fromShiva that no celestial could kill him. So the Devas incarnated themselves as Monkeys to assist Vishnu who
On Mar 11, 2006, at 3:40 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
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>
> Michael, have you ever heard the expression, Get a life?
> That was meant completely sincerely.
LOL. But you miss the point of Michael's definitions,
Sal.
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Many spiritual seekers have no idea
how cynical and doubt-laden they actually are. It is this blindness
and denial of the presence of doubt and cynicism that makes the birth
of a profound trust impossible - a
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Someone called Gerbil accused Maharishi of taking our own
teachings and giving it back to us.?? His teachings got better and
better over time.??
It's called the Pizza effect. I realized it, when I saw a modern
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Someone called Gerbil accused Maharishi of taking our own
teachings and giving it back to us.?? His teachings got better and
on 3/11/06 2:32 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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on 3/11/06 1:40 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My understanding of John Black and how he got on the raja course
comes
from a person who was
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Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:20:15 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras
Nisargadatta said on more than one occassion that he preferred to
speak with Westerners rather than with Indians because the Westerners
were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We all know from everyday experience that questions
(curiosity) generally can have two very distinct
purposes, even in mundane conversation:
1. To actually gain understanding, as sincere inquiries;
to
It's rhetorical, Def. :)
Sal
On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:49 PM, defenders_of_bhakti wrote:
Well, we all know rethoric questions, don't we? (This was a rethoric
question).
Perhaps so -- and if so, who knows how many different ways what you
have said (below) could be reconciled with what Nisargadatta said or
if that makes any difference; both ways of understanding the monkey
(and bear) armies of the Ramayana speak to different ways of
interpreting the narrative. The
Thank you very much for the suggestion. I have the deepest respect
(and affection) for Nisargadatta and consider him one the big
influences in my life, perhaps second in my heart only to Maharishi
and Guru Dev. Coming upon him (here, of course, on FFL) only a few
years after I had re-begun
Maharishi's commentary says:
This acceptance of the teacher is actually a surrender to the
unbounded Truth; it invites the unbounded to shine forth through the
teacher.
Instead of the teacher, read life.
This acceptance of life is actually a surrender to the
unbounded Truth; it invites the
Patrick, thanks for this, couldn't agree more.
**
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Maharishi's commentary says:
This acceptance of the teacher is actually a surrender to the
unbounded Truth; it invites the unbounded to shine forth through the
What happens in the state of Enlightenment is that one stops being
things.
http://www.mapi.com/answers/120_Unity_Porous.mp3 (10 mins)
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on 3/11/06 7:37 PM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These were two separate quotes (the one about the exhaust from a bus).
The (other) quote was fairly close to the way I stated it below. Rick,
please chime in with details. We were sitting in a room with Maharishi
in Livingston Manor
Saw Saltzman's art exhibition in Fort Collins yesterday in which photographs of his were shown of the Rishikesh course with the beatles, Mia Farrow, Carl Wilson, Walter Koch, etc. He's touring the US with this exhibition, selling the photos and a book with the photos in it. Mark
To
Thank you, Bob.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What happens in the state of Enlightenment is that one stops being
things.
http://www.mapi.com/answers/120_Unity_Porous.mp3 (10 mins)
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When was that conference, Rick? I know there was a
two-week conference with about 120 governors in
September 1977, at which time I was on block three of
my citizen sidhis course. Was MMY calling from Europe
at the time? I don't recall ever hearing of him being
in South Fallsburg.
--- Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Every day is life. We don't postpone the present based on the hopes
of a more glorious future...It doesn't just happen all at once, it's
a
process...what makes you think that if you don't enjoy the process
you
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MDG often mentions sama-dhi meaning something
like 'even intellect'. Has anybody else heard
that translation? Is it Maharishi's?
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--- In , cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MDG often mentions sama-dhi meaning something
like 'even intellect'. Has anybody else heard
that translation? Is it Maharishi's?
I've heard Maharishi use that translation on at least a couple of
occasions (live and on tape). He would
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
His definition of the first (good) type of question
seems to be that they have to be based on total and
complete surrender and
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