[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fatigue of the Non-Self

2006-03-12 Thread anonyff
Shemp You're welcome. Be aware that it's a paraphrase. up until the three dots (...) it's pretty acurate, after that it sums up what he said in kinda sorta those words. Maybe Rick can add to it to make it more accurate. Curly --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Wha??

2006-03-12 Thread cardemaister
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread defenders_of_bhakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to argue, but you seem to have missed this section: Maharishi's commentary says: By 'homage' is meant submission or surrender. Sure, I saw it later, but he was of course quoting MMY. Not setting the stage

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Not to argue, but you seem to have missed this section: Maharishi's commentary says: By 'homage' is meant submission or

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fatigue of the Non-Self

2006-03-12 Thread defenders_of_bhakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found my old notebook, where I had written it down (I wasn't present, its just a copy that was circulated at some courses): Every day is life. It is not that we pass on the present for some glorius future. We are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wha??

2006-03-12 Thread defenders_of_bhakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://vedabase.net/en/ Interestingly enough, they count the Bhagavatam as Veda, just like the Upanishad. MMY had said that the Bhagavatam could only be understood when being in Unity. Not that you couldn't read it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SELF-DOUBT AND CYNICISM VS. PROFOUND TRUST From a Talk by Adyashanti There is nothing more insidiously destructive to the attainment of liberation than self-doubt and cynicism. Doubt is a movement of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [That trust is also often called homage, or even devotion or surrender - and the path that encompasses this openness of heart is called bhakti. Once Self-realization is ripening, this open- ness of heart in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dictionary translates homage to mean respect, reverence, and not surrender. And I understand the quotation in a way that also the teacher should show homage to the student, give his advice after repeated

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sama-dhi

2006-03-12 Thread Vaj
sama = quit or calmdhi = mindOn Mar 12, 2006, at 2:02 AM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote: --- In , cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:MDG often mentions "sama-dhi" meaning something like 'even intellect'. Has anybody else heard that translation? Is it Maharishi's? I've heard Maharishi use

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 10, 2006, at 5:49 PM, authfriend wrote: If there weren't such confusion, you'd be able to respond straightforwardly to the points I'm making, pro or con. Not only can you not do so, you repeatedly attempt to shift ground or otherwise obscure the debate. This is just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Not to argue, but you seem to have missed this section:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns through and from them. Question on this one point: By what standard can it be said that God makes mistakes? Yahoo! Groups

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:29 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns through and from them. Question on this one point: By what standard can it be said that God makes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:29 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns through and from them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns through and from them. Question on this one point: By what standard can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti no_reply@ wrote: Is BDSM on operating system? (Like FreeBSD) In a way...it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: It is just the observation that evolving in nature happens through errors and in animals also by avoiding the mistakes and as even in a more advanced form humans can sometimes also learn from mistakes. I consider the manifest creation to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2006, at 5:45 AM, defenders_of_bhakti wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to argue, but you seem to have missed this section:  Maharishi's commentary says:     "By 'homage' is meant submission or surrender."Sure, I saw it later, but he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: It is just the observation that evolving in nature happens through errors and in animals also by avoiding the mistakes and as even in a more advanced form humans can

[FairfieldLife] Nisargadatta, Siddharamesh, Ramesh, Banganga (was: Fake Gurus ..)

2006-03-12 Thread defenders_of_bhakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much for the suggestion. Here are some quotations by Siddharameshwar, some stories about Ban Ganga, some reflections on Ramesh. First about Bhakti and Knowledge by Siddharameshwar Maharaj Guru of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread defenders_of_bhakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's rhetorical, Def. :) Sal Thanks. Being native german, I did a 'literal' translation. On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:49 PM, defenders_of_bhakti wrote: Well, we all know rethoric questions, don't we? (This was a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns through and from them. Question on this one point: By what standard can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread defenders_of_bhakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns through and from them. Question on this one point: By what standard can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: It is just the observation that evolving in nature happens through errors and in animals also by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: It is just the observation that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fatigue of the Non-Self

2006-03-12 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/11/06 7:37 PM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These were two separate quotes (the one about the exhaust from a bus). The (other) quote was fairly close to the way I stated it below. Rick, please chime

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: That's a stretch. Many translations of the First Noble Truth have it as Life is suffering, but that's not related in any way to God, since they don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: That's a stretch. Many translations of the First Noble Truth have it as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
Vaj, I spent quite a bit of time responding to your post, and when I clicked Send, Yahoo apparently burped, taking me to the page asking for a password. Normally when it wants your password so you can post, it requests the password after you've hit Reply but before you've had a chance to type

[FairfieldLife] Story of young Guru Dev and the caves

2006-03-12 Thread Michael Dean Goodman
After I posted the story about young Guru Dev and the caves (there is no empty cave here), someone wrote to this list to say that the story is NOT about Guru Dev (because they remember hearing some TM teacher tell it differently back in the 70s - about 30 years ago). I strongly disagree. I was

[FairfieldLife] pundits anyone?

2006-03-12 Thread nayakanayaka
namaste! below you find a copy of a letter sent to donors by MGDF in 2001. no news since then... (except for the rumors everyone knows). is anyone in a position close enough to the truth to tell us what is the current state of affairs in this? the fax on the letter is out of funtion, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta, Siddharamesh, Ramesh, Banganga (was: Fake Gurus ..)

2006-03-12 Thread Marek Reavis
Thanks, DoB, particularly for the quote from Siddharameshwar re Devotion and Knowledge. After reading I Am That the other translations edited by Jean Dunn and Robert Powell are/were at first kind of jarring, since the English isn't as polished. However, they are all great reads and the other

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Donovan coming to MUM for award

2006-03-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Donovan coming to MUM for award Hot off the unofficial press - Donovan coming to MUM to perform at the end of the month. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fatigue of the Non-Self

2006-03-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/11/06 11:13 PM, gullible fool at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When was that conference, Rick? I know there was a two-week conference with about 120 governors in September 1977, at which time I was on block three of my citizen sidhis course. Was MMY calling from Europe at the time? I don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] pundits anyone?

2006-03-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
That's ok...in lieu of actual news, we'll take a good rumor any day. :) Sal On Mar 12, 2006, at 10:33 AM, nayakanayaka wrote: below you find a copy of a letter sent to donors by MGDF in 2001. no news since then... (except for the rumors everyone knows).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
Maybe the ultimate is like Avis--We Try Harder. Sal On Mar 12, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Nelson wrote: > If what we're calling God is not the ultimate, what is? > +++Whatever you are seeking, possibly the same.     Maybe the ultimate is upgraded from time to time-infinity plus one you know.  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fatigue of the Non-Self

2006-03-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 11, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > Every day is life. We don't postpone the present based on the hopes > of a more glorious future...It doesn't just happen all at once, it's a > process...what makes you think that if you don't enjoy the process you > will enjoy being in Unity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] CQM!

2006-03-12 Thread cardemaister
*** 33 New Molecules Solved Including Alkanes of Infinite Length! *** 03/10/06 Theoretical Breakthrough: Molecules Exactly Solved for the First Time - For the first time, significant building-block molecules of chemistry were successfully solved using physical laws in exact

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and learns

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Although I think that also God makes mistakes and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Story of young Guru Dev and the caves

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After I posted the story about young Guru Dev and the caves (there is no empty cave here), someone wrote to this list to say that the story is NOT about Guru Dev (because they remember hearing some TM teacher

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donovan coming to MUM for award

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hot off the unofficial press - Donovan coming to MUM to perform at the end of the month. What fun. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sama-dhi

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
MMY has also referred to samadhi as the samhita of rishi, devata and chhandas. Seems to me that I've seen samadhi translated as sameness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sama = quit or calm dhi = mind On Mar 12, 2006, at 2:02 AM, Michael Dean Goodman

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Marek Reavis
Thanks for the heads-up on Cantor. The website on the Hotel Infinity is good stuff. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: pundits anyone?

2006-03-12 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nayakanayaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: namaste! below you find a copy of a letter sent to donors by MGDF in 2001. no news since then... (except for the rumors everyone knows). is anyone in a position close enough to the truth to tell us what is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donovan coming to MUM for award

2006-03-12 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hot off the unofficial press - Donovan coming to MUM to perform at the end of the month. I heard him perform at Fairfield High School in 85, a great voice... Yahoo! Groups

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread Vaj
Another good reason to use an email program rather than a web browser to answer your mail! :-)In any event, the point here is that unless one is doing a non-dual form of quiescence/transcendence meditation, there will--by it's very nature always be not only some dualism or some subtle

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
OK, Vaj, here's my second attempt. Again, thanks for being willing to engage in reasoned discussion in this post. I hope we can continue it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip My offline conversations are really, truly none of your business. Of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Since the checking notes explicitly say that sleep during meditation is *not* a problem, no wonder they didn't find a solution in checking. That sleep is not a problem *is* the answer as far as checking is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread george_deforest
hello Judy, i have not been around here for awhile, but today i checked in to see you lost your post due to yahoo's demands. i have a helpful tip i discovered ... use firefox browser! it has the amazing capacity that, when you finish logging back in, you can hit the back button and it will take

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2006, at 6:52 PM, authfriend wrote: they're simply people responding to the post reagrding some style of mindfullness or some simple adjustment that prevented laxity or sleep during meditation. It's an important problem--even in the dome in FF--so people responded affirming

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another good reason to use an email program rather than a web browser to answer your mail! :-) If there isn't an even better reason not to. As you may now have seen, I reconstructed my response, and I hope you'll reply to it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello Judy, i have not been around here for awhile, but today i checked in to see you lost your post due to yahoo's demands. i have a helpful tip i discovered ... use firefox browser! it has the amazing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 12, 2006, at 6:52 PM, authfriend wrote: they're simply people responding to the post reagrding some style of mindfullness or some simple adjustment that prevented laxity or sleep during meditation. It's an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
I still believe that it owes a lot to Buddhism... That's a stretch. Many translations of the First Noble Truth have it as Life is suffering, but that's not related in any way to God, since they don't believe in one. To say life is suffering implies there is something-- a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another good reason to use an email program rather than a web browser to answer your mail! :-) In any event, the point here is that unless one is doing a non-dual form of quiescence/transcendence meditation, there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still believe that it owes a lot to Buddhism... That's a stretch. Many translations of the First Noble Truth have it as Life is suffering, but that's not related in any way to God, since they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-doubt and cynicism vs. profound trust - the role of surrender as the fo

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the heads-up on Cantor. The website on the Hotel Infinity is good stuff. ** Wikipedia seems to have an awful lot on the subject. It's quite fun to contemplate deities whose hierachy is like the Power

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donovan coming to MUM for award

2006-03-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hot off the unofficial press - Donovan coming to MUM to perform at the end of the month. Such an incredible talent. A veritable storm of hits and creativity in the late '60s and then...what since then? Anyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donovan coming to MUM for award

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Hot off the unofficial press - Donovan coming to MUM to perform at the end of the month. I heard him perform at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another good reason to use an email program rather than a web browser to answer your mail! :-) In any event, the point here is that unless one is doing a non- dual form of quiescence/transcendence meditation, there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] True, but not necessarily sad, if you mean they're not experiencing transcendental consciousness by itself. If the process never becomes automatic, that *is* sad, but only in the sense that the person hasn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donovan coming to MUM for award

2006-03-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Hot off the unofficial press - Donovan coming to MUM to perform at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: In any event, the point here is that unless one is doing a non-dual form of quiescence/transcendence meditation, there will--by it's very nature always be not only some dualism or some subtle meditational effort involved. To

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fatigue of the Non-Self

2006-03-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp You're welcome. Be aware that it's a paraphrase. up until the three dots (...) it's pretty acurate, after that it sums up what he said in kinda sorta those words. Maybe Rick can add to it to make it more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donovan coming to MUM for award

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Hot off the unofficial press - Donovan coming to MUM to perform at the end of the month. Such an incredible talent. A veritable

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donovan coming to MUM for award

2006-03-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donovan coming to MUM for award

2006-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Hot off the unofficial press - Donovan coming to MUM to perform at the end of the month. Such an incredible talent. A veritable storm