Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Exactly - the small ego is transcended once CC is stable, and then this newly-permanent sense-of-self, discovered in CC, is first brought to fruition in UC, and again transcended, once a person begins to grow beyond UC. Yes, none of this is static, nor does it conform strictly to the implied

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Small ego is what, exactly? In CC, or GC, or UC or whatever, there are still ambitions, goals, feelings of inadequacy or adequacy, egomania or humility,etc. It's all just physiological changes in the brain that bring about a shift in how the self and its relationship to the world is

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I ask again: what was this all about? Did anyone bother to attend? Has anyone spoken to anyone who attended? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Sooo...? What was the meeting about? What was the exciting developments from teh visit by Commencement

[FairfieldLife] Monsanto is about to sue the state of Vermont.

2014-06-04 Thread nablusoss1008
Monsanto is suing the state of Vermont. http://action.sumofus.org/a/monsanto-sues-vermonts/?sub=fb http://action.sumofus.org/a/monsanto-sues-vermonts/?sub=fb Monsanto is suing the state of Vermont. http://action.sumofus.org/a/monsanto-sues-vermonts/?sub=fb What’s up with that?

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The meeting, showed that things are un-changed. Bevan is busy all around the world still trying to preserve the way things are done. He gave a powerpoint travelogue to that effect. At the start of the meeting Craig Pearson recounted the lead up to Jim Carrey doing the commencement speech.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Of course there is monitoring to do in TM as a mental technique unless you are one of those who simply lays down or lounge back and go to sleep as your meditation. I got these old tapes from India TTC where Maharishi very specifically goes through that TM does involve some [small] effort to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com The meeting, showed that things are un-changed.   Bevan is busy all around the world still trying to preserve the way things are done. Because, after all, that has worked so well to preserve the sense of TM community

[FairfieldLife] Re: Human Spirituality and Collapse of the Wave Function

2014-06-04 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Cardemaister, Ohhmm that voltage of the [spiritual] heart! This is really an important post you offer here. This spiritual 'heart of the matter' that you offer here actually seems to be where much of the meditating community has gone on to with all of its satsanga here otherwise. It is a lot of

[FairfieldLife] Fw: The Attention Economy

2014-06-04 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If you’re using a free online service, the adage goes, you are the product. It’s an arresting line, but one that deserves putting more precisely: it’s not you, but your behavioural data and the quantifiable facts of your engagement that are constantly blended for sale, with the aggregate of

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: 6/34-Maharishi: The power of love of the Almighty for His creation takes everyone towards more and more

2014-06-04 Thread Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]
Forwarded from: David Hooper davehooper...@gmail.com 6/3/14-Maharishi: (1/2)The power of love of the Almighty for His creation takes everyone towards more and more Everyone is proceeding on, and on, and on, and on. And this march is so blind to everything else that it's only channeled in one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Monsanto is about to sue the state of Vermont.

2014-06-04 Thread merudanda
Thank you very very much my dear brother in arms and spririt about this. Just signed the petition to help Vermont with the hope everybody will follow. Consumers should have the right to know what they're eating and what they're feeding their kids as we do in Europe. merudanda`s next email will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Monsanto is about to sue the state of Vermont.

2014-06-04 Thread merudanda
spririt...LOL seems me being in the mist wandering wondrous through mists among parted bush and stone where none to the other exists, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thank you very very much my dear brother in arms and spririt about this. Just signed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Because the TMO is still run by the TM Nazis From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 5:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting,

[FairfieldLife] Fw: [9]

2014-06-04 Thread Earl kaplan earlthepearl...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey there! http://dsmfrance.com/RE_1photo.php?ixifygy=3003924idihyvig=754962

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, I sure don't know whether Maharishi could ever have declared someone to be fully enlightened or permanently enlightened. I do know Robin never used either of those terms here to describe his state (I did a search), nor did he say Maharishi had. So that's just a red herring from your own

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't know the story behind Robin's adding to the sutras, so I can't comment on what he intended. At the time, he obviously thought Maharishi would approve, or he wouldn't have demanded that he validate it for the court case. According to Robin, Maharishi's denial, without explanation, in his

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread merudanda
Thanks for that narrative post and update info. Buck. Apology: Jim Carrey received honorary Doctorate of Fine Arts not philosophy--seems being still in MIU mental mode... Since I just signed a petition in support of Vermont and it could be that not many people caught his jab at Monsanto

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Well, perhaps you didn't see his behavior as co-opting Maharishi's teachings, but giving people advice on how to make TM-Sidhis practice better, certainly is the kind of thing that I would call co-opting Maharishi's teaching.

[FairfieldLife] A Slow News Day in SC

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A Slow News Day in South Carolina http://www.thestate.com/2014/06/03/3484871/whopper-gator-found-hilton-head.html HILTON HEAD ISLAND, SC: Whopper gator found Hilt... Joe Maffo got a call from Beaufort County emergency dispatch at about 1:30 a.m. May 31. Someone saw a large alligator on Old

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. Even worse Barry equates his denial, with non-attachment, and thus convinces himself of his spiritual progress. However, he is making it increasingly clear, on here, by his overheated attempts at retribution,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I just found a post from Robin that makes what he had in mind explicit (if not, er, perfectly clear). Excerpt: What I did believe...was that my enlightenment had opened up a truth that was intrinsically relevant to to Western Civilization, and this was all about the drama of *individuation*.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
merudanda, my intuition tells me that *the powers that be* don't realize that they are awakening the full wrath of freedom lovers everywhere with this GMO situation. I recently unsubscribed to the Democratic Party newsletter and told them I did so because Obama had just signed the Monsanto

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is one of the reasons I think all these states of consciousness outlined by Marshy the Huckster are just a bunch of blabber. By his definition, Unity is PERMANENT! One does not have it and then leave it. If it is our true nature, how could one fall out of it after realizing one's true

[FairfieldLife] Panel Discussion on Refined (“Celestial”) Perception: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/04/2014

2014-06-04 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump https://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/star.gif If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I just found a post from Robin that makes what he had in mind explicit (if not, er, perfectly clear). Excerpt: What I did believe...was that my enlightenment had opened up a truth that was intrinsically relevant to to Western

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : This is one of the reasons I think all these states of consciousness outlined by Marshy the Huckster are just a bunch of blabber. By his definition, Unity is PERMANENT! One does not have it and then leave it. If it is our true

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-04 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:47 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers' How many TM practitioners on Fairfield City

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
What the Secret Service doesn't know is that FFL members learned a sutra long ago that will make them go blind if they spy on the messages on FFL. On 06/04/2014 03:29 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Primary Day

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
California did pass an referendum to help homeless vets and get them off the streets. Really that should be funded by taxing the defense industry and it really should just be a federal government program for folks who have served in the military. Right now our war mongers just use people to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Whether or not Robin co-opted Maharishi's teaching is to me not an important point, since every teacher that goes out on their own rather than being part of some organization has co-opted the teachings of those before them and probably added to, and subtracted from them as well. I do not

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
No announcements about what Carrey's Commencement speech had done? I told John Hagelin that it was a huge publicity boost for MUM with 1000+ news articles and 1 million+ webhits for MUM, many with links to either the video or the mum.edu website, or both, and that they should ask Carrey to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
actually, Maharishi enver said there was effot involved. Someone else kept insisting that there HAD to be effot involved, and the topic was thinking the mantra, not monitoring whether or not you WERE thinking the mantra. Sheesh. How many ways can people misunderstand simple instructions?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Eh, Bevan feels that he has certain standards to uphold, but in this case, it sounds more like they just wanted to establish that the Sidha community was special and would be able to get special news that no-one else could get. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Gee, if he's not enlightened now, then we can be sure he wasn't fully enlightened back then, either, eh? And as I said, Maharishi asking him to describe his legitimate Unity experiences says nothing about whether Robin would CONTINUE to have Unity experiences tomorrow or whatever.

[FairfieldLife] So what are you watching?

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Last night I watched a movie on DVD called Parts Per Billion which is kind of an On The Beach but with a bioweapon instead of nukes killing off humanity. It stars Frank Langella, Gena Rowlands, Rasario Dawson, Josh Harnett, Teresa Palmer and Penn Badgley. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2495104/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
You think that buzzing the Dome in helicopters and dropping leaflets on people wasn't a bit off? You think that convincing a lawyer to violate laws (which was mentioned in the court proceedings) wasn't a bit off? Robin was clearly unbalanced at that point, which goes along with my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Robin never intended to not be a part of the organization, actually. He wanted to reform it, not leave it. And he didn't want anything specific after he became enlightened. According to him, his experience was that he no longer had any personal desires. If you read his posts, what Xeno goes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I don't recall that MMY claimed that one couldnt' glimpse Unity for a while and then fall away, especially if one still has to continue stabilizing CC via TM and elects not to do TM. Once the CC goes, the UC no longer can exist. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How do you interpret my words way off track, Lawson? Do you even read what I write in my posts? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : You think that buzzing the Dome in helicopters and dropping leaflets on people wasn't a bit off? You think that convincing a lawyer to

[FairfieldLife] A musical interlude to lighten things up

2014-06-04 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A little tune to offset the seemingly serious discussion of whether a nutjob was enlightened. Trust me...the video is both more intelligent and more interesting than the subject of discussion ever was.  :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKPWWG6efqY

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
According to the passage in Jay Latham's book quoted on FFL some years back (which is self-reported by Latham just as Robin self reports his experiences), Latham told Maharishi on a course that the whole thing of TC, CC, GC, and UC was a lie, and Maharishi seemed to agree with him on those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Agreed - good analogy, too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. Even worse Barry equates his denial, with non-attachment, and thus convinces himself of his spiritual progress.

[FairfieldLife] No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As MMY used to point out: Recollecting the mantra (boing, boing) is simple, natural remembering and does not require some special or applied effort at recall. Therefore, the first shift of attention from thinking/feeling/sensing is effortless because remembering the mantra is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
According to the passage in Jay Latham's book quoted on FFL some years back (which is self-reported by Latham just as Robin self reports his experiences), Latham told Maharishi on a course that the whole thing of TC, CC, GC, and UC was a lie, and Maharishi seemed to agree with him on those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/4/2014 9:43 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Obama helping with global warming, as if that negates what he did viz a viz our food supply! So, they want to build a food co-op at Fairfield, but not in town, to sell GMO foods to the people, but the people will

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, the Heartland Co-op is a proposed granary and fertilizer plant. Only 18 wheelers and choo choo trains will be driving to it (-: On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:05 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   On 6/4/2014 9:43

Re: [FairfieldLife] Primary Day

2014-06-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/4/2014 10:45 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: California did pass an referendum to help homeless vets and get them off the streets. Really that should be funded by taxing the defense industry and it really should just be a federal government program for folks

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
5/19-Maharishi: How Unity Consciousness becomes Brahman Consciousness becomes a part of Brahman Now, in the beginning days of Unity the object of the main focus of attention is appreciated in terms of the Self. This object is seen -- the eyes fall on it -- this object is appreciated in terms

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/4/2014 10:51 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: actually, Maharishi enver said there was effot involved. Someone else kept insisting that there HAD to be effot involved, and the topic was thinking the mantra, not monitoring whether or not you WERE thinking the mantra.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: The Attention Economy

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 06/04/2014 12:16 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/4/2014 10:40 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: So make a conscious effort to do things way out of your norm to poison your profile. Also if you post your picture use

Re: [FairfieldLife] Primary Day

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 06/04/2014 12:28 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/4/2014 10:45 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: California did pass an referendum to help homeless vets and get them off the streets. Really that should be funded by taxing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Once you've stepped over the line with CC you could probably care less about what state of consciousness you're in and the label applied. On 06/04/2014 11:08 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: According to the passage in Jay Latham's book quoted on FFL some years back

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread merudanda
Clearly this the Secret Service being sarcastic, except you all missed it... 'The simpson's done it first'' The Simpsons - Sarcasm Detector https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ra6qKzXDA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ra6qKzXDA The Simpsons - Sarcasm Detector

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Isn't it Vedic City where GMOs are banned, NOT Fairfield? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/4/2014 9:43 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Obama helping with global warming, as if that negates what he did viz

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Of course, no-one knows if he had this state, and no-one knows if this state actually exists. We don't even have physiological studies on people in simple Unity letalone anyone who can float during Yogic Flying practice, and what he's referring to as Brahmin Consciousness sounds to be much

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The thing that many people seem to miss, is that the very act of noticing I'm not thinking the mantra often (generally? always?) involves thinking teh mantra. Don't think of pink elephants invariable involves thinking of pink elephants in some way. Likewise, noticing I'm not thinking

Re: [FairfieldLife] Primary Day

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
And the US military needs to privatize also. I mean, using private security to guard US military may have been a necessity during the war, but now everyone must realize that it's The RIght Thing To Do™ and they'll keep the private security force forever after because it's cheaper to hire

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Perhaps vague is the wrong choice of words: open to interpretation might be a better choice. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The thing that many people seem to miss, is that the very act of noticing I'm not thinking the mantra often (generally? always?)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Unless you day job is to talk about, teach about, philosophize about, or even conduct scientific research on, these various purported states. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Once you've stepped over the line with CC you could probably care less about what

Re: [FairfieldLife] Primary Day

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
So you want to live in Bladerunner World where everything is run by a one or a few corporations? Figures. On 06/04/2014 02:01 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: And the US military needs to privatize also. I mean, using private security to guard US military may have been a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Which are only talked about for marketing purposes. Most other gurus just talk about moksha or liberation. On 06/04/2014 02:05 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unless you day job is to talk about, teach about, philosophize about, or even conduct scientific research on, these

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thank you for this, Share - It is interesting that Maharishi refers to the ripening of UC (Brahman), as still in terms of the Self. I suppose in terms of continuing to function as a human being, that thread is necessary, the laisha vidya, but when the Self can, in reality, be anywhere, non

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Eh. MMY had a specific way of interpreting things. It has allowed Fred Travis and others to publish research on CC and get it published in major journals. It has allowed Fred to talk to famous scientists about conducting new research on CC. That's marketing of a sort, I guess.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Did you not read teh descriptions of self from Fred's research? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thank you for this, Share - It is interesting that Maharishi refers to the ripening of UC (Brahman), as still in terms of the Self. I suppose in terms

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I found the post describing his experience at Arosa. Remember that he wrote this only a couple of years later, not recently. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/316412 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/316412

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Have you ever had a spiritual experience that you told no one about, and then you find yourself reading it on-line, from someone you have never met, or, listening to a friend describe the same thing? I just found my old 7 SOC tape by MMY, and it was queued up for CC, and he specifically

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
One thing I keep in mind with all these expressions of higher states is that Maharishi said that Unity meant being able to express the full value of any siddhi at any time, and that until that were the case, any experience was of no more validity than a philosophical stance. He also said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Or like me, you just find it interesting, and enjoyable - like collecting coins, or hiking in the wilderness. The unfolding of enlightenment can have the same elements of breathless discovery, and achievement, like anything else. Ego tripping is always a danger, but that is a well recognized

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am in complete agreement, that without consequent worldly success, all the spiritual proclamations in the world, are worthless. Eye on the ball. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One thing I keep in mind with all these expressions of higher states is that

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How do you know it is the mantra you're remembering? (This isn't a deep philosophical query.) Say your mantra is potato and you *hear* yourself repeating potahto then you'd be relaxed about that as we are encouraged to allow the syllable to mutate without trying to think it clearly. So the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Robin explained to you why that first remark of Maharishi's is misleading. That was the post I linked to earlier; I gather you didn't bother to reread it. It's really one of his better posts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One thing I keep in mind with all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re There's no monitoring required to do TM. In fact, you can get lost for hours in thought if you have mental health problems as I do, and still be doing TM correctly.: I have wondered if people with OCD or similar obsessive habits can think a mantra effortlessly !

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
yoga chitta vritti nirodha: yoga is the cessation of the fluctuations of the mind I think MMY was deliberately vague about this matter: because what it means to return to the mantra at gross levels of thought is very different from what it means when hovering just above pure consciousness,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 06/04/2014 03:32 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How do you know it is the mantra you're remembering? (This isn't a deep philosophical query.) Say your mantra is potato and you *hear* yourself repeating potahto then you'd be relaxed about that as we are encouraged to allow

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re Funny you should mention that. On my TTC when MMY came to make us teachers he also gave out advanced techniques. On the flight back home folks were running around asking do you remember the mantra that MMY gave you for an advanced technique? A number of people could not or were confused

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread merudanda
?? During practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique, individuals report an experience of the Self aware of itself-free from the incessant thoughts, feelings and perceptions that usually fill their minds. Maharishi explains that this is Transcendental Consciousness, a fourth

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Don't you guys who oppose this thing think it might be a mighty good idea to find out where the TM council members including the mayor stand? And especially MUM? Even tho its a university the fact that they are there, drawing in faulty, staff, and especially students plus the money they spend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread merudanda
?? During practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique, individuals report an experience of the Self aware of itself-free from the incessant thoughts, feelings and perceptions that usually fill their minds. Maharishi explains that this is Transcendental Consciousness, a fourth

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 05-Jun-14 00:15:05 UTC

2014-06-04 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/31/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 06/07/14 00:00:00 571 messages as of (UTC) 06/04/14 23:47:18 78 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 69 LEnglish5 47 authfriend 43 dhamiltony2k5 37 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 35

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Gee, in my understanding, you get only one bija mantra when you're initiated. The advanced techniques aren't new bija mantras, they're actual Sanskrit words that you use with your original bija mantra. Am I wrong? I have only one advanced technique, and that was the case for me. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It's helpful to distinguish self (the small egoic self) from Self (cap S), Atman. Was Fred talking about self or Self? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Did you not read teh descriptions of self from Fred's research? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The question was the question. The answer from people who were planning on learning TM was in the first group. The answers from people who had learned TM but didn't report much, if any, witnessing was in the second group. The answers from people who had learned TM and reported

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
As far as I can tell, I think a mantra without effort with the best of 'em and I'm currently being evaluated for disability due to OCD/ADHD. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re There's no monitoring required to do TM. In fact, you can get lost for hours in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
These days, there's plenty of research (well a few studies on EEG is plenty -sorta) done by non-TMers that find much the same effects as Fred's. This shouldnt' be that surprising. The desire of Believer Researchers is to find ways in which TM is different. THey hone their search based on how

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
When did you get your advanced technique? When I got mine in 1976 it was based on a different beej mantra from the first technique I got. I've heard in later years it might have been taught by using the original beej and adding to it. There are all kinds of way to create advanced mantras

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi explains how UC becomes Brahman

2014-06-04 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fleetwood, for me it's not a CONCEPT of near and dear Self. It's an isness that's closer than the closest, almost impossible to put into words. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:34 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Thank you for this,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
aing to aing namah to shri aing namah is the way it went for me. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How do you reconcile the fact that TM is supposed to make all things get better in a fabulous way (according to the pr) and you have been doing TM for all these years yet are OCD? If TM works as advertised, why do you think it has not melted the OCD energy away?

[FairfieldLife] Shiva mantra to crush bad karma

2014-06-04 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_z7umKiQA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_z7umKiQA

[FairfieldLife] Lightness of Being

2014-06-04 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Magic mantra to change negative karma to good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2XkzZR4R0U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2XkzZR4R0U

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Obviously, a large part of my OCD, etc is not stress-related (a large part is so on days when I'm more regular, my OCD, etc seems to be less). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : How do you reconcile the fact that TM is supposed to make all things get better in

[FairfieldLife] detailed advanced technique discussion = bye bye for me.

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
as the title suggests. I'm outa. Cheers all. L

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
For what it is worth, discussion of advanced techniques could result in instant fail on TTC, or so I have read. Maharishi was far more strict about advanced technique discussion than about regular TM. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : When did you get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : How do you reconcile the fact that TM is supposed to make all things get better in a fabulous way (according to the pr) and you have been doing TM for all these years yet are OCD? If TM works as advertised, why do you think it has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Most people got the very well known mantra for Saraswati. If the person also got the Saraswati beej then it would seem like more words were just added which happened in your case. However there are other goddess mantras in TM and people who had those and got the Saraswati mantra wouldn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Authfriend: Gee, in my understanding, you get only one bija mantra when you're initiated. The advanced techniques aren't new bija mantras, they're actual Sanskrit words that you use with your original bija mantra. Am I wrong? I have only one advanced technique, and that was the case for me.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
So, they don't sell food at the food co-op? Go figure. Somebody should start a food co-op in town that people can walk to to get good, reasonably priced groceries. Do they have any good grocery stores in FF? We are living about two blocks from the Whole Foods Market now. ? On 6/4/2014 2:27

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/4/2014 3:58 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Isn't it Vedic City where GMOs are banned, NOT Fairfield? I don't know - I didn't even think they had any grocery stores in Vedic City. Are you implying that in Vedic City you can't buy a GMO product in FF and then eat it in your

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-04 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks, emptybill. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Authfriend: Gee, in my understanding, you get only one bija mantra when you're initiated. The advanced techniques aren't new bija mantras, they're actual Sanskrit words that you use with your original bija

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Community Meeting, Sunday

2014-06-04 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, we are very fortunate to have Everybody's, a wonderful, locally owned health food store which supplies many locally made items, organic dessert items and soups, humuus, salsa, etc. Additionally, just a stone's throw from the women's Dome there is a health food store, Dome Market which

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