Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-08 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Share Long sharelong60@... As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I find that a fascinating possibility for research as the ability to

[FairfieldLife] Re: speaking of reincarnation...

2014-05-08 Thread steve.sundur
Welcome Back! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : 'doctor dumbass' has expired (frowny face) ...and been reborn (hallelujah!) -- I am living in a mobile home park, in Chico, sussing out the town, for a possible move -- hence my new nom de plume,

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread steve.sundur
is that so? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I have heard he said it many different ways. Maharishi was repetitive; he had basically the same message for over 50 years. As he said to one teacher 'Haven't you noticed I say the same thing over and over again?'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-08 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Thanks for your comments. One of the things that amuses me in this discussion is that two of the participants so far who are on record as having no need to believe in a God are also on record as having had enlightenment

Re: [FairfieldLife] calm the situation in Ukraine-you can help!

2014-05-08 Thread steve.sundur
Mikey, the Jews having to register was not correct. That was pointed out to you over a week ago. Come on now son, let's stay on track. Shall we? (at this point our protagonist paces the stage, experiencing some cognitive dissonance that one of his pet premises has been shot down) A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring

2014-05-06 Thread steve.sundur
The other day, on the radio, they had a piece about something you changed your mind about. And they interviewed a guy, I forget who he was, who said he changed his mind about whether we, as humans, are really as insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things as is sometimes said to be the case.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-06 Thread steve.sundur
. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve.sundur@... Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:57 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin

2014-05-06 Thread steve.sundur
algae in a municipal water supply? with an odor? that sounds strange. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I'm about to go back to drinking it for a while because the city water has algae in it which they claim is harmless but stinks. I have a refer with a filter for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
Maharishi was asked; Who is the most important person here now. Maharishi replied: the cook ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/3/2014 4:25 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Is this the same as heads I win, tails you lose I mean, many of your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One last set of thoughts for Curtis

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
good points Share. what the Turq doesn't realize I think is that on some level, whether he wants to acknowledge it or not, is that his life is driven to gain more understanding, as is the same as most people. It is, as you say hard wired into us. And the funny thing is, that once you start

Re: [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Quite simply, if Maharishi's knowledge had been worth a shit to begin with, such policies and the attitudes they spring from could never have been born in the first place. Proximity to Marshy and length of time spent both

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One last set of thoughts for Curtis

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Rhetorical question. No need to reply. I was just amused that neither you nor Share can conceive of having a preference without the presence of some kind of hierarchy. I would suggest that this is pretty limited thinking. But if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wise President Putin

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
Ok Michael, you wanted proof, there you have it! The ME in spades. I did meditate twice this week, and I think that may have pushed us over the edge. And hey, I am not discounting, for a second, not for a second, the beneficial effect of Shikantaza meditation, which of course is a Japanese

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wise President Putin

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
Just a little note: I feel like when when mentioning Shikantaza meditation, as when mentioning the Saint, May Peace Be Upon Him, that Shikantaza should not have to stand alone. You understand of course. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Ok Michael, you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
As to the claims and questionable research, I have to quote the wisdom of the Turq - If TM (and its adjunct programs) were any good, they wouldn't have to lie to sell them. On Sun, 5/4/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wise President Putin

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
mental hospital. On Sun, 5/4/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wise President Putin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - Sam Harris

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
Just a friendly comment from the peanut gallery. You may think you don't have a hair trigger in this regard, but you might be mistaken. You also might want to examine which issues push your buttons and see if your reactions to the posting about such issues are in proportion to what is

RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-04 Thread steve.sundur
Jesus Christ, Rick, are you going to propose marriage to the guy, or just interview him! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : I’m going to read all of his books before even inviting him, and take notes as I go along, which I’ll share and discuss with you. Then I’ll

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-05-03 Thread steve.sundur
/3/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 3:18 AM .

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-05-03 Thread steve.sundur
as a very vocal critic of TM and Marshy. Ask him about his experiences sometime and see how you feel afterwards. On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Subject: Re

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-05-03 Thread steve.sundur
! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : not a tirade merely statement of facts - talk to Kyle like I suggest and see whats what On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Subject: Re

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-05-03 Thread steve.sundur
Is this the same as heads I win, tails you lose I mean, many of your arguments are fashioned that way I think. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you are wrong about that some aspects of the practice under certain circumstances leads to mental and emotional

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-05-03 Thread steve.sundur
By all accounts MJ was a very conscientious baker. I suspect that his leaving left a void in the operation for a spell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/3/2014 4:25 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Is this the same as heads I win, tails

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-05-02 Thread steve.sundur
That is true. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Right. You just regularly barge into such discussions, announcing that there is no God and that anyone who believes there is is worse than a fool. Although I fully understand that some people get off on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-05-02 Thread steve.sundur
I love these things that sound like 'designer', meditations or designer martial arts techniques. Our special tonight is shikantaza meditation, which we will do while sitting in a modified Cheyenne sweat lodge, which has been purified and smoked with a sandalwood reduction incense which has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-05-02 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Define more developed or fully developed for me in terms of human consciousness. I'll wait. What happens when people get older and wiser? Do you think that happens? I would say it does often happen. It sure happened

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - Sam Harris

2014-05-02 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I guess I'm not that idealistic. I think there are people out there in the world who read the news reports about Oklahoma's recent botched execution and felt GOOD that the prisoner suffered. I'll cop to this. It bothers me,

Re: [FairfieldLife] New York TM teaching is maxed out

2014-04-30 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip And besides, we have a new generation hungry for anything better than what our plastic society offers them, or something to give them an edge. We all wanted that at some point, we also all wanted easy answers

Re: [FairfieldLife] New York TM teaching is maxed out

2014-04-30 Thread steve.sundur
Michael, I do enjoy your comments. You regularly ascribe to the TMO vast power. It's cute actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : and the organisation itself is a badly run, thinly disguised religious dictatorship Once again Sal, you have nailed it to

Re: [FairfieldLife] New York TM teaching is maxed out

2014-04-30 Thread steve.sundur
, April 30, 2014 5:16 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Michael, I do enjoy your comments. You regularly ascribe to the TMO vast power. It's cute actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : and the organisation itself is a badly run, thinly

[FairfieldLife] Re: New York TM teaching is maxed out

2014-04-30 Thread steve.sundur
My dentist has me going for a cleaning every three months to try to fend off further problems. And since we've discussing looks somewhat, the hygienist, Jessica, is about a 10, and when she tells me to turn my head to the left, I come face to face with..well, nuff said about that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:

2014-04-30 Thread steve.sundur
Sounds like a description at a dog show. Hey, but then would it be best in it's class? Think about that for moment! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : corporate succession, indeed! As Sal put it so very nicely, the organization itself is a badly run, thinly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Watch Dav id Lynch’s hy pn oti c new video

2014-04-29 Thread steve.sundur
Not a big DL movie goer. Wild at Heart may be the only one I've seen, but I liked it very much. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : My favorite Lynch film is Wild at Heart. Loved the scene where Willem Defoe gets his face blown off and the dog picks it up. Are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts

2014-04-28 Thread steve.sundur
Barry, I get that you are not into dialogue. That suits me fine. But do you realize how invested you are into a narrative that seeks to portray anyone who doesn't feel as you do, a True Believer? For example, you have this notion that anyone's take on these questions, other than yours

Re: [FairfieldLife] The World's Highest Ranking Alien Believer

2014-04-28 Thread steve.sundur
Based on that picture of her, I'd say it's pretty accurate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Rather that admit the effects of all those years of cigarettes and seething anger, she calls herself “a fairly nice-looking dame.” Yeah…..right…and TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does watching this symbolic wind constitute worship of Vayu?

2014-04-27 Thread steve.sundur
Clicking on the 'Show History Tab' in a conscientious and regular fashion has been shown improve the readability and comprehension of posts. This conclusion is the result of numerous experiences among participants on various chat sites and is endorsed by the Society of Better Readability on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Creationists thwart mammoth bid!

2014-04-26 Thread steve.sundur
: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : There really needs to be a work around for this issue for those religious minded in this regard. Cognitive dissonance is a bit of an understatement I think. I have some customers who belong to strict denominations

Re: [FairfieldLife] Creationists thwart mammoth bid!

2014-04-26 Thread steve.sundur
Who could not like Joel Osteen. Really, a good practical message, especially when he stays outside the overtly religious context, and talks about the daily issues people face. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 4/26/2014 12:23 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does watching this symbolic wind constitute worship of Vayu?

2014-04-26 Thread steve.sundur
Well, is wind not the same as prana, and there are different pranas at work in the body. I consider the workings of prana to be an unexplored area of physiology. Am I off track here? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : http://hint.fm/wind/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now Playing

2014-04-25 Thread steve.sundur
Bo Diddley was a name I always heard, of course, but really knew nothing about, until I play those selections you had below, Richard. A real nice discovery. In high school I was a mild Grateful Dead fan. One of my best friends was an ardent fan. But I recall when Jerry Garcia died.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The poetry of motion

2014-04-25 Thread steve.sundur
WTF? (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Pendulum Waves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkdfJ9PkRQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkdfJ9PkRQ Pendulum Waves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkdfJ9PkRQ Fifteen uncoupled simple pendulums of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Portia de Rossi Pregnant

2014-04-25 Thread steve.sundur
Well, it is funny to consider that she cheated on her at the invitro clinic. Slipping away for those afternoon assignations. Who was he!? And then pulling out a profile. I couldn't resist that IQ. It drew me in ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Michael, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Creationists thwart mammoth bid!

2014-04-25 Thread steve.sundur
There really needs to be a work around for this issue for those religious minded in this regard. Cognitive dissonance is a bit of an understatement I think. I have some customers who belong to strict denominations but are mainstream in most other ways. Boy, do I steer the topic of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Never underestimate Americans' ability to practice denial

2014-04-22 Thread steve.sundur
I ate at Ruggeri's restaurant regularly as a kid. My grandparents used to take me there. And like most St. Louisan's, developed a love for toasted ravioli. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Classical Theism Really the Strongest Version of the God Idea?

2014-04-22 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : AWhat I don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Never underestimate Americans' ability to practice denial

2014-04-22 Thread steve.sundur

[FairfieldLife] Re: Never underestimate Americans' ability to practice denial

2014-04-22 Thread steve.sundur
on elsewhere. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I ate at Ruggeri's restaurant regularly as a kid. My grandparents used to take me there. And like most St. Louisan's, developed a love for toasted

[FairfieldLife] Hey Sal, Re: Entities

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
I see what you mean about entities, or components And yes, you are right, introducing rebirth, or reincarnation does necessitate entities. You look at the accounts indicating rebirth and find them lacking. I look at the accounts and find many of them credible. And so, the point I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
- these asses RUN the Movement - if the rajas aren't in charge who is? The fact that you can't accept these guys have become the face of the new Movement is indicative of just how deep your denial runs. On Sun, 4/20/14, steve.sundur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Sal, Re: Entities

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... And I'm saying you sound kind of desperate, as if -- as you admit -- forcing an imaginary atheist to be uncomfortable is your real goal. Well Barry, IIRC, your answer to this possibility

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Sal, Re: Entities

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
Oh, and by the way, the whole impetus behind my post was that I didn't understand the way sal was using the term entities. Once he said it was comparable to components, it make more sense to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Sal, Re: Entities

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
it differing. Forget about reincarnation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Oh, and by the way, the whole impetus behind my post was that I didn't understand the way sal was using the term entities. Once he said it was comparable to components, it make more sense to me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Sal, Re: Entities

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
or anyone for that matter ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : And you know what else. I gotta say that at first blush, your view and evidently the view of Buddhism sounds an awful lot like Classical Theism, in the broadest sense of word. I'd love to hear you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
the argument? On Mon, 4/21/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Sal, Re: Entities

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Doncha think you're being kinda silly to try to make someone feel uncomfortable just because you can't conceive of reincarnation being an automatic process that requires no intervention or supervision? I guess I missed this. I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: MIU Photos from the past

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
Canna we please mixa some real chicken broth in the soup? It woulda make it so mucha tastier! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Me on the right, Danny VonPhilipsborn on the left, half German, half Hungarian. This was when Danny was the baker and I was his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another MIU shot

2014-04-21 Thread steve.sundur
Michael, you had the movement by the balls when the crew threatened to go on strike for the banquet when you got fired. You had em by the balls. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The two guys on the left I don't remember - I didn't know them well at the time this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sal wrote: A better question for you to ask would be, why doesn't it happen to everyone if reincarnation is a common occurrence? Why to so very few

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
At this point, I am not sure if you are making a declaration about this don't try to sell me anything, or you are pleading, even begging people to not try to sell you anything. Because its sort of become your calling card, and you play it more as a wild card, when anyone says something not in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Seems to me that knowledge of previous lives would be immensely useful, why do we forget it? Why do you think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Indeed. I simply cannot comprehend those who feel threatened when something challenges their beliefs. I've had things I had believed in blown out of the water so many times that I've actually come to enjoy it. Forget being

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Anything one pulls out of memory is past, is past life. Anything one does not remember is the same experience as if it were never there. What is the need to fine tune what 'sort' of memory it is? Life is now, though it is nice to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
? And the answer to this koan, of course, is, Arguing with people on the Internet about shit that can never *possibly* be resolved, such as belief in a God. :-) From: steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Putting it in an evolutionary context, the vast majority of people that ever lived were hunter gatherers. I think it would be highly useful to automatically know how to find water, how to avoid leopards etc. we are born

[FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
Well, at least it makes it easy to see why you regard anyone who disagrees with you a cult apologist. It looks like the only reason you view this as an excellent essay is because it trashes something you don't like. Sort of like what Judy was discussing earlier. There is no issue of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
is happening in the TM world don't much like. If you find my posts so unpleasant why read 'em? On Sun, 4/20/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
Michael. Yes, I have plenty of issues to work on. When I get around to that one, I'd be glad to take you up on it. On Sun, 4/20/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
? On Sun, 4/20/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 20, 2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
I think it's called the World Wide Web. The Rajas are just a weird offshoot of the main organization. I'm not sure what direct connection the Rajas have to academic life. As for due diligence during the time you were involved in the organization and people looking at it now, it's sort

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Student Housing and More

2014-04-20 Thread steve.sundur
You can raise that up the flagpole, but I don't know if anyone will salute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Rajas are central to Maharishi's organization, They are great people who are putting their time and wealth to accomplishing his goals for the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-19 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : With all due respect, Steve, you seem to have been infected with JudyRobinitis, and expect me to argue with you just because you want to argue. I posted what I had to say, you had the opportunity to post what you had to say in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on losers?

2014-04-19 Thread steve.sundur
with certain things about TM or at least with the TMO? Would you mind telling what aspects you became disillusioned with and what aspects you are still alright with? On Sat, 4/19/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... steve.sundur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-19 Thread steve.sundur
: On 4/18/2014 9:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: To help me understand this, I'm asking the believers in God here to speak up and tell me what the BENEFITS of such a belief are. Because, it will help you understand karma and reincarnation and what

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-19 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : And that is why I replied to Barry's request. But then I was accused of pestering him to reply to me. But yes Richard, that is the issue that I think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-19 Thread steve.sundur
Sal wrote: A better question for you to ask would be, why doesn't it happen to everyone if reincarnation is a common occurrence? Why to so very few? Maybe for the same reason we often don't remember our dreams after awakening. I mean to answer that aside from something like, the process

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
Probably not what you are looking for, but what I've observed from the atheists, at least on this forum is that they are more comfortable keeping the discussion on highly abstract issues. Issues that can't really be resolved one way or the other, or at least kept on a bit of solid ground.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reposted just because it seems folks need a reminder

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
this should be posted periodically along with the terms post ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Something to bear in mind while reading Fairfield Life. Or anything else, for that matter. The pasted-in graphic below may not expand properly, so if it doesn't, use the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why does TM seem to focus on losers?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
When I started I was a little mixed up. Hormones were raging, doing some drugs, generally confused. TM offered some respite, a little tranquility. In my case, my participation was also intertwined with a girlfriend. Later it did become something else, a spiritual path, at least for quite

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 2:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God? Probably not what you are looking

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : And a little of mine. I'm an atheist for purely pragmatic, Occam's Razor reasons. No need to postulate a God to explain existence is a simpler and more efficient explanation of the universe than A God was/is required for it to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : As an example, if there is a God, and He/She/It has a PLAN for all of this, how is it that all these atheists aren't part of it? Were they created by someone/something else? What exactly is this else? And this is saying nothing about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on losers?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : And *this* gets me to thinking about whether Maharishi always pitched TM to losers and people with problems and low self esteem because they become the best disciples. And *disciples* is what he was looking for. Or is it possible

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on winners ?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
Michael, you once offered your services to help me get over my TBerness. I now make the same offer to you. Lesson One: Maharishi was never a God, and is not God. He did not possess supernatural powers and never claimed to have them. Now, I realize that this may be hard for your to accept.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waybackin71@... wrote : Barry, I did believe in God. Then did not, although always held out hope that there was God. Then doubted the TM concept of Being, or my take on it. The slightly more abstract concept works better for me. But when I give up

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
place on both sides here, I think ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Probably not what you are looking for, but what I've observed from the atheists, at least on this forum is that they are more

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Probably not what you are looking for, but what I've observed from the atheists, at least on this forum is that they are more comfortable keeping the discussion on highly abstract issues. Issues that can't really be resolved one way or the other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?

2014-04-18 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God? ---In FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If the siddhis were real, here's a typical day in the life of a MSAE kid.

2014-04-17 Thread steve.sundur
Wow, the actual story of the rapist turns out to be quite a bit different than it was first portrayed by Edg, doesn't it, a least as it attempts to implicate the TMO in this offense. And I guess the paragraphs that follow, and which contain absolutely nothing new, are meant to make up for this

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-17 Thread steve.sundur
Hi Share, I really don't think much about the mechanics of transcending. I think I get what Lawson is saying, but this comment from Fred sounds like so much pablum to me. As far as everyday transcending, I think you know when your deep, and when you're not so deep. Just my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread steve.sundur
Nice post, tax ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This reply is specifically for Judy, not Turq or Salyavin. Alas she cannot honestly reply, as it would break her word. That is not saying she is dishonest, please note. We all have honesty glitches, part of the human

[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-14 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : I *loved* that sentence also. The below, is the random brain activity theory first espoused by Curtis, if I am not mistaken. But what I've found, is that the refining of perception is a gradual process, and may be accompanied by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-14 Thread steve.sundur
progress, not process ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : I *loved* that sentence also. The below, is the random brain activity theory first espoused by Curtis, if I am not mistaken. But what I've

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread steve.sundur
did anyone else think racks when those at symbols were posted, and then those shacks, or is that just me? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : @@ Those shacks must have some really nice furniture in them then and refrigerators full of food. On 04/13/2014 03:03

Re: [FairfieldLife] Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-12 Thread steve.sundur
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/12/221425582/tired-of-inequality-one-economist-says-itll-only-get-worse http://www.npr.org/2013/09/12/221425582/tired-of-inequality-one-economist-says-itll-only-get-worse I mentioned this book before. This is one scenario on how things could play out. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-11 Thread steve.sundur
Good points ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Share, I do like Barry, but I think he has gone ecstatic with this new theory he's put forth. I think he thinks he's found the Rosetta Stone or something

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unstressing or Demons?

2014-04-10 Thread steve.sundur
as obsessed with the TM program and the TM organization, it may just be the feller you look at in the mirror. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : You make the point well, Ann. I don't know many who took

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread steve.sundur
Share, I do like Barry, but I think he has gone ecstatic with this new theory he's put forth. I think he thinks he's found the Rosetta Stone or something. When the siddhis were first introduced, I was with a small group in my dorm, many of whom had concrete experiences with the siddhis.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread steve.sundur
tell me, because I really don't know, but is it a fallacy when one cites examples from a ridiculous extreme to try to make their points? I mean, sure, we all like to hear outrageous stories, but when that's the main content of what one's posts, it does get a little predictable. Just sayin',

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Murderer

2014-04-10 Thread steve.sundur
. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:03 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey Richard, I like the pictures you've posted of yourself. My favorite was the one from when you worked as a reporter, (if I have that right) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread steve.sundur
dittos on Bhairitu's comment ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Of course, it's not at all interesting, because she didn't try to explain her beliefs about the TM-Sidhis and how she believes they work. What she did was describe what she felt were the benefits to

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