In Autobiography of a Yogi Paramahansa Yogananda reported that he witnessed the
resurrection of the PHYSICAL body of Swami Yukteswar, his Master.
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On 1/2/2014 3:46 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Nobody is said
On 1/3/2014 12:11 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
Okay, I'm corrected on the second point. Thanks.
So, let's review what we know:
Mary dated Jesus for a number of years. They killed Jesus and hung him
on a tree. Mary buried Jesus in Joe's tomb. Jesus was raised from the
dead; he ascended up in the
OY VEY! Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.
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On 1/3/2014 12:11 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
Okay, I'm
On 1/3/2014 8:41 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.
Only a poseur or a caviler would deny the scriptures right in front of
their face, and no child who is old enough to think for himself or
herself thinks that God Almighty lives in a local heaven down
This was pretty funny, Richard but I still think Mary M did not see the actual
moment that Jesus returned to life, the resurrection. Nor did she see Jesus
ascend into heaven 40 days later. It sounds like she saw him standing around
looking like a gardner. Go figure!
On Thursday, January 2,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
This was pretty funny, Richard but I still think Mary M did not see
the actual moment that Jesus returned to life, the resurrection. Nor did
she see Jesus ascend into heaven 40 days later. It sounds like she saw
him standing around looking
Good one!
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This was pretty funny, Richard but I still think Mary M did
On 1/3/2014 10:25 AM, Share Long wrote:
Mary M did not see the actual moment that Jesus returned to life,
the resurrection.
There actually two parts to the resurrection of Jesus. The first part is
rising the physical body from the dead. Probably only some angels saw
that who were inside
For me, the question of Jesus' resurrection is rather like the resurrection of
Sherlock Holmes. But if in fact he did exists as a person, I would say he
experienced enlightenment, taught others, and then died, perhaps not so nicely.
Some of his followers caught on to what he was doing, but most
10:26 AM
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On 1/3/2014 10:25 AM, Share Long wrote:
Mary M did not see the actual moment that Jesus returned to life,
the resurrection.
There actually two parts to the resurrection of Jesus. The first part is
rising the physical body from
A lot of people still haven't caught on to what he was doing. I guess we'll all
just have to wait and see.
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On 1/3/2014 10:25 AM, Share Long wrote:
Nor did she see Jesus ascend into heaven 40 days later.
You are really bringing up some important issues, Share. We don't have a
Bible in the house so I'm depending Judy, and on my local Monsignor - he
can read Greek - and Dad, who is in his third
On 1/3/2014 10:50 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Back in Santa Fe I had a gardener named Jesus, and I saw
him standing around quite often.
What else would a gardener in Santa Fe be doing, since there's hardly
any gardening to be don in the high desert. Go figure.
Does that make me a New
On 1/3/2014 1:01 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
However she never said anything about seeing him
floating away,
Mary told the other apostles exactly what Jesus instructed her to tell
them. The only thing that was important at that moment was for Mary to
tell the other guys that Jesus had risen
Richard, sorry I haven't replied. I've been out of town today. A friend and I
went to see Saving Mr. Banks. Tom Hanks and Emma Thompson were wonderful.
On Friday, January 3, 2014 1:18 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 1/3/2014 10:25 AM, Share Long wrote:
Nor
On 1/1/2014 4:29 PM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, I always thought that Jesus rose from the
dead body and spirit.
According to what I've read, Jesus was raised from the dead - the key
word here is risen - he rose up from the dead inside the tomb - in
body AND spirit - he left the tomb by
Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking about
it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. And
that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone!
but but but...if he was already in a bullock cart, why was he
No surprise, Share. You simply aren't big enough or
brave enough to admit your pal has been dishonest,
despite all the evidence.
Everyone knows that you don't believe in the Bible as history.
So, I don't know what your problem is - everyone knows that Jesus as
the Christ could fly up
On 1/2/2014 6:41 AM, Share Long wrote:
But now thinking about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH
the stone on top of his crypt.
So, let's review what we know:
They killed Jesus. Mary put him in Joseph's tomb. Some guys put a big
heavy stone blocking the entrance to the crypt.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:
The first phase of lying is to be able to hover.
Clearly, Judy doesn't believe that any of the people she's accused of
lying over the decades really ARE lying, because she's never claimed
that any of them are able to hover. Go
On 1/1/2014 9:43 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
As Paul's letters are generally considered to have been
written before the Gospels, he was likely referring to
various prophesies in the Jewish scriptures that 'foretell'
the Messiah
Paul's fifteenth chapter of the First Epistle to the
On 1/1/2014 8:18 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
I just noticed that Judy is anxious, as always, to stretch
some tiny point into a prolonged disagreement.
So, let's sum up what we know, Steve:
Judy does not believe the Bible as history. She does not believe that
angels, spirits, and
Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking
about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt.
And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone!
Hans Multscher, 1437
On 1/1/2014 7:32 PM, Share Long wrote:
Richard kept saying that the spirit of Jesus rose from
his body but the scripture says the tomb was empty. No body.
For Christians, Jesus rose up from the dead in body AND soul. That's why
there was an empty tomb.
According to Mary, I saw the Lord in
On 1/1/2014 6:10 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
...you continually show an extreme amount of intolerance,
judgementalness,
(if that's a word), and narrow mindedness.
Judy is what used to be called a TMer fundie on Google Groups. For
years over there she defended MMY's Yogic Flying
On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.
Sure, the Christ could
Never a fundie in terms of anything but Maharishi's teaching on the nature
and mechanics of consciousness. And I don't believe I ever said anything about
flying around the room with arms flailing. That would have been odd indeed
since I repeatedly pointed out that nothing except hopping had
On 1/1/2014 4:38 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
when you add something you made up out of your own head that
isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited
On 1/1/2014 4:52 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
as you know.
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection - she
was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that
Jesus was the
Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
when you add something you made up out of your own head that
isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in
defense of your outrageous and
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
as you know.You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the
resurrection - she
was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the
, you could at
least walk with your feet on the ground.
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On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
One account of some
create
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at
least walk with your feet on the ground.
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I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one! LOL!
Ok, Richard and Judy, based on this painting, I wonder if Jesus rose THROUGH
the stone, but nekkid. Three beings were there on the outside. They helped him
move the stone so he could retrieve his garments. Then the three men fell
asleep, they were so tired from moving that rock! What do you all
dear Mike, Happy New Year to you and your critters! Now could you please define
*last word?!*
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 9:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:
I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one! LOL!
Look more closely. The painting shows him in the process of emerging from the
tomb right through the stone lid fully clothed (or draped), while the guards
are snoring away.
This is my favorite painting of the Resurrection, both because Christ looks
kind of beat up and even a little
I agree, Judy, it is an imaginative composition. What I especially like is that
the artist seems to be playing with perspective. BUT from the point of view of
the human body, rather than a line of columns or some other architectural
structure. Also, I like that by costume he places the three
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 1/1/2014 4:52 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
as you know.
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection - she
was
: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
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On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
someone joined them on their walk
Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can
Actually, I think we're all pushing each others buttons and my sides are aching
right now LOL!
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On 1/2/2014 8:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
the Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being up in the air
after his resurrection (until the Ascension 40 days later).
Do you even have a Bible in your house? Everyone knows about Christ
being in the clouds in hundreds of depictions in
Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the
air above the 500 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says
Christ appeared to them.
Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of
course the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500
people
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
as you know.
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She was the
first. It say so in the Bible - Mary Magdalene was the first to witness the
resurrection of Christ. Can't you read?
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I have several Bibles in my house, including one on my Kindle. None of them
says anything about Jesus being up in the air after his resurrection (until
the Ascension 40 days later).
the Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being up in the air
after his resurrection (until the Ascension 40
pundits...@gmail.com
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On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
resurrection said that they were
On 1/2/2014 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape
to get off the ground?
You mean like the Yogic Flyers?
Well yeah, I had Judy in mind - bow and scrape to bun-hop.
On 1/2/2014 9:04 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one!
How much would you be willing to wager? Judy and Bob have their
macros, but even then, I think I could beat them, even with one hand
tied behind my back. I have been known to be
Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the air above the 500
eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of course
the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500 people
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She was the
first. It say so in the Bible - Mary Magdalene was the first to witness the
resurrection of Christ. Can't you read?
No, as you know,
On 1/2/2014 3:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Paul doesn't say anything about the risen Christ floating
in the sky when he appeared to the 500 brethren.
So, where do you think the Christ appeared to the 500, under a rock? In
order for 500 people to see Christ all at the same time, he
On 1/2/2014 3:13 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Ordinary human beings speak to 500 or many more people
all the time without being up in the sky.
So, you're thinking that Jesus appeared to the 500 behind a podium,
bowing and scrapping like an ordinary human being? In that case, why do
you
On 1/2/2014 3:16 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as
you know.
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She saw
Jesus die and then she saw him rise from the dead. She was the first one
to see the
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you
know.
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She saw
Jesus die and then she saw him rise from the dead. She was
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the
air above the 500 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says
Christ appeared to them.
Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of course
the risen Christ was up in the sky
ROFLMAO!
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Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small
space of air beneath
I tend to have more sweat under my feet... but then I am a water sign.
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Is there some reason why
On 1/2/2014 3:46 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as
you know.
Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. It says so in the Bible.
Mary saw Jesus dead and she saw Jesus come back to life. She was the
first to see the
On 1/2/2014 3:47 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
He didn't actually see Jesus but a brilliant light that blinded him
for days.
Jesus Christ appeared to be a brilliant light up in the sky - Paul saw
it and he spoke to the Christ. Where else do you think light comes from,
if not up in the sky? From a
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you
know.
Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. It says so in the Bible.
Mary saw Jesus dead and she saw Jesus come back to life.
But did Mary watch the dead body of Jesus for three days solid and then become
enlivened before her living eyes? Nope. Did she see the stone from the door
being removed? Nope.
Stinks of a magic trick, eh?
Jesus could have been using a very powerful flashlight to get his attention.
Kind of like a cop dose at night. Hey you! Freeze!
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Re But did Mary watch the dead body of Jesus for three days solid and then
become enlivened before her living eyes? Nope. Did she see the stone from the
door being removed? Nope.:
YES!
Matthew 28:1-6 (NIV)
After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and
But did Mary watch the dead body of Jesus for three
days solid and then become enlivened before her living
eyes? Nope. Did she see the stone from the door being
removed? Nope.
According to the Bible, Jesus' body was raised from the dead but his soul
did not get raised until he was outside the
On 1/2/2014 5:35 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual
resurrection, as you know.
Mary Magdalene saw the Resurrection - she saw Jesus ascend to the
Father. She saw it, according to the Bible.
Mary sees two angels and then Jesus, whom she does
Okay, I'm corrected on the second point. Thanks.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 12/31/2013 7:50 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
Ahh, I think Judy may have the court advantage at this point.
The Ascension is what clinched it for me. Richard?
The Ascension came forty years later
Yes, Seraphita, I know what your point was. It wasn't clear to me whether you
were making it as a way of joining the dispute, but if you weren't, and aren't
confused by Richard, more power to you.
Several of the noncanonical Gospels featuring Mary Magdalen include much
reported sniping by
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 12/31/2013 7:22 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
I could buy that if I could first buy the fact that there was
a Christ, a Mary Magdalene and a rising.
Nobody is asking you to buy anything, but it
He means 40 days afterward. He's a little overexcited at this point.
Ahh, I think Judy may have the court advantage at this point.
The Ascension is what clinched it for me. Richard?
The Ascension came forty years later - that's when Christ went up to
heaven. Everyone knows that Mary
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
He means 40 days afterward. He's a little overexcited at this point.
Yes, that is why I had to put it in pink. Excitement from Ricky deserves a
little blush.
Ahh, I think Judy may have the court advantage at this point.
The trick Richard has been trying to play here in his series of posts last
night is to make it seem as though his quotes from Wikipedia are refuting me.
If you've been following this (God only knows why you would), you know (and he
knows) I have no dispute with anything Wikipedia says in the
On 12/31/2013 11:03 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:
My point is that choosing a *woman* to be the first witness
makes the story more believable (to moderns) as a made-up
account would have had the first witness a male in that
patriarchal society. Angels don't count being non-sexual!
Most
On 1/1/2014 8:40 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
forty years later, that's a long time to have waited for that.
Old Magdalene coulda been dead by then.
Or, she could have been alive; or,she could have been Jesus' concubine.
Or, even his wife for all we know. The Bible doesn't say what
Most of the Gospels in the Bible were all written by men
All four Gospels in the Bible were written by men.
so it is very important that all the Gospel writers agree that Jesus
appeared to Mary first
Except for Luke, of course. In Luke, the risen Jesus appears first to two of
the
On 1/1/2014 9:00 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
why not put this thing about risen into your own words
so that there is not this ambiguity about what risen means?
The term risen means in this context that Jesus had risen from the
grave - Jesus was resurrected from the dead. His soul
On 1/1/2014 9:04 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
He means 40 days afterward.
Yes, he meant 40 days until the Ascension.
So, it has finally been established that Mary Magdalene was the first to
see the risen Christ along with James' mother. There may have been
others who were with Mary at
On 1/1/2014 9:14 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
Yes, that is why I had to put it in pink. Excitement from Ricky
deserves a little blush.
what you should have put in red was that Luke wasn't at the resurrection
so he was told by Mary about it. Even if Luke didn't mention Mary by
name
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 1/1/2014 9:00 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
why not put this thing about risen into your own words
so that there is not this ambiguity about what risen means?
The term risen means in this context
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Yes, he meant 40 days until the Ascension.
So, it has finally been established that Mary Magdalene was the first
to
see the risen Christ along with James' mother. There may have been
others who were with Mary at the empty
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Yes, he meant 40 days until the Ascension.
So, it has finally been established that Mary Magdalene was the first to
see the risen Christ along with James'
turq, I admit to very much enjoying the semantics of it all. But that might be
because Mercury and Jupiter are aspecting each other (-: Happy, Healthy,
Prosperous 2014!
On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
On 1/1/2014 9:24 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
The points in dispute are, or were, his original claim that Mary M.
was the first to see the Jesus rise up into the sky
Obviously Judy wasn't there at the resurrection and so she doesn't know
what Mary saw. All Judy knows is what she reads
So, it has finally been established that Mary Magdalene was the first to
see the risen Christ along with James' mother.
As you know, it was never in question that this is what Matthew, Mark, and
John report (although Mark and John do not include James's mother; it's only
Mary M. who
Yes, that is why I had to put it in pink. Excitement from Ricky
deserves a little blush. This, as Richard knows, is with reference to his
error about the Ascension taking place 40 years after the
resurrection--i.e., nothing to do with what he goes on to say.
what you should have put
I have to think that what's going on is dueling egos -- *My* opinion about
this fictional story is RIGHT, and all others are WRONG. What a waste of
life...
FWIW, this isn't about opinion, but about fact: What does the Bible actually
say?
Since we know what the Bible says, It's a very
But I'd be willing to bet quite a substantial sum of money that Share will
still not acknowledge that Richard has been trolling and lying throughout the
discussion. Right, Share? Sorta like you refuse to acknowledge your falsehoods
about my September 2012 post.
turq, I admit to very much
On 1/1/2014 10:46 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Except for Luke, of course. In Luke, the risen Jesus appears first
to two of the disciples (men) on the road to Emmaus.
Apparently Luke was a non-believer in Mary's message. Luke 24:9-11 says:
When (the women) came back from the tomb, they
On 1/1/2014 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
I guess it's just what some people think of as fun, but
personally I can find zero interest in any of this
Now this is funny - a guy that claims to have read over 200 books on the
Cathars isn't interested in the Cathar legend of Mary Magdalene. So
On 1/1/2014 11:14 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
think you're taking it all too seriously. No one else
here is, except maybe Ricky.
Apparently Judy has learned nothing from her years as a TMer Siddha.
Everyone knows that the soul or the spirit can transcend the gross body
and lift up
On 1/1/2014 11:20 AM, Share Long wrote:
I admit to very much enjoying the semantics of it all.
According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen
above five hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. The
Conversion of Paul the Apostle, was, according to the New
On 1/1/2014 11:34 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
As you know, it was never in question that this is what Matthew, Mark,
and John report (although Mark and John do not include James's mother;
it's only Mary M. who sees him). No finally established about it in
this discussion.
Let me
On 1/1/2014 11:42 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
what you should have put in red was that Luke wasn't at the
resurrection
Neither was anybody else.
In the Gospel of John, Mary Magdalene ...is recorded as the first
witness of Jesus' resurrection (John 20:14–16); (Mark 16:9 later
On 1/1/2014 11:46 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
this isn't about opinion, but about fact: What does the Bible
actually say?
The important question is what did Mary see and what did he say to the
Apostles? The Bible doesn't say exactly what Mary said, but according
to the Gospel of Mary
On 1/1/2014 11:49 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
But I'd be willing to bet quite a substantial sum of money that
Share will still not acknowledge that Richard has been trolling
and lying throughout the discussion.
How much would you be willing to wager? You being a non-believer, your
You declared your zero interest yet you read the post and thus your mind is now
boggled.
You called it a waste of life - thus admitting to wasting your life by
reading it.
Dueling Egos need to be occupied to maintain a sense of worth. Don't
discourage them from frivolous pursuits. It
As you know, it was never in question that this is what Matthew, Mark, and John
report. No established, finally in this discussion. It was established a
very long time ago.
As you know, it was never in question that this is what Matthew, Mark,
and John report (although Mark and John do
As you know, she was a witness to the risen Christ, not to the resurrection
itself. Nobody saw that.
what you should have put in red was that Luke wasn't at the
resurrection
Neither was anybody else.
In the Gospel of John, Mary Magdalene ...is recorded as the first
witness of
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