--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
From Bhojadeva's comment on YS II 15
As (yathaa) an eyeball (akSi-paatram?) experiences (anubhavati)
great (mahatiim) pain (piiDaam) by mere (maatreNa) touch (sparsha)
of a fiber (tantu) of wool (uurNaa), so (tathaa) a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
From Bhojadeva's comment on YS II 15
As (yathaa) an eyeball (akSi-paatram?) experiences (anubhavati)
great (mahatiim) pain (piiDaam) by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
Continues like this (in Sanskrit Documents,
Transliterated transcribed from a manuscript by : Dr. Suryanshu Ray
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
From Bhojadeva's comment on YS II 15
As (yathaa) an eyeball
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
I am not sure if this applies or not. But I tend to eshew things like
beautiful sunsets, or beautiful days. Or at least I don't get emotional
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
Continues like this (in Sanskrit Documents,
Transliterated transcribed from a manuscript by : Dr. Suryanshu Ray
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
Are you translating Bhoga-saadhana as experiences?
No, just 'bhoga'...
Bhoga means -
worldly, materialistic; saadhana - here would be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
As (yathaa) an eyeball (akSi-paatram?) experiences (anubhavati)
great (mahatiim) pain (piiDaam) by mere (maatreNa) touch (sparsha)
of a fiber (tantu) of wool (uurNaa), so (tathaa) a viveki udvij-s
(see footnote 3 above)
Ravi Yogi:
Anyway I think Bhoga Saadhana could
indeed mean contemplating on worldly
pleasures or indulgences...
Samsara is described as mundane existence,
full of suffering and misery and hence is
considered undesirable and worth renunciation.
The Samsara is without any beginning and
It's not yer eyeballs. It's old age - the opposite of the new age.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
As (yathaa) an eyeball (akSi-paatram?) experiences (anubhavati)
great (mahatiim)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:
I am not sure if this applies or not. But I tend to eshew things like
beautiful sunsets, or beautiful days. Or at least I don't get
emotional about them. They are what they are. I neither delight in
them, nor ignore
If you have a pitta constitution, you'll understand that it's a pain to have
itches on your chest and arms. But the meditation practice tones down the
itches at a milder or manageable level.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
I am not sure if this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
I am not sure if this applies or not. But I tend to eshew things like
beautiful sunsets, or beautiful days. Or at least I don't get emotional
about them. They are what they are. I neither delight in them, nor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
I am not sure if this applies or not. But I tend to eshew things
like beautiful sunsets, or beautiful days. Or at least I don't get
emotional
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
Are you translating Bhoga-saadhana as experiences?
No, just 'bhoga'...
Bhoga means -
worldly, materialistic; saadhana - here would be indulgence. So just
translating it as experiences doesn't seem to do justice to this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
If you have a pitta constitution, you'll understand that it's a pain
to have itches on your chest and arms.
That's not the itch I typically deal with, but thanks for the advice.
(-:
But the meditation practice tones down the itches
It occurs to me that in these two paragraphs intended
to diss Patanjali, there are two sentences, one in each
paragraph, that inadvertently exemplify what he meant
by experience is painful.
Can anybody identify them?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
This
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual hate.
The beating of poor old Patanjali by mob.
Nice writing but it still smells like the sophistry
of limited epistemology. However, if you just had more
experience then you'd see.
Nice writing though, it's a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual hate.
The beating of poor old Patanjali by mob.
One guy, having fun with an imaginary conversation
with a possibly imaginary guy, is a *mob*?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it
all about Buddhism, I'm going to bring it back to its
original subject, Patanjali, and a quote of his from
the Yoga Sutras.
However, the wise (though their own mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it
all about Buddhism, I'm going to bring it back to its
original subject, Patanjali, and a quote of his from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual hate.
The beating of poor old Patanjali by mob.
One guy, having fun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Hindu nihilism. Some of us do not desire to be free
from rebirth. Some of the enlightened do not believe
that being enlightened means that there is no rebirth.
And most important, if the enlightened are so affronted
by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual hate.
The beating of poor old Patanjali by mob.
Nice writing but it still smells like the sophistry
of limited epistemology. However, if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled
turquoiseb:
Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it
all about Buddhism, I'm going to bring it back to its
original subject, Patanjali...
Samadhi, dukkha, suffering, nirodha (cessation) are crucial
terms in Buddhist vocabulary. The doctrine of suffering is
the core of what
curtisdeltablues:
I just think he was full of it and that
his premises about reality are bogus...
But, for some reason you practiced yoga for
fourteen years and majored in philosophy at
MUM? It just doesn't make any sense!
Samkhya is the philosophical foundation of
all Indian culture,
fish market, 1935
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/32470.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
curtisdeltablues:
I just think he was full of it and that
his premises about reality are bogus...
But, for some reason you practiced yoga for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
curtisdeltablues:
I just think he was full of it and that
his premises about reality are bogus...
But, for some reason you practiced yoga for
fourteen years and majored in philosophy at
MUM? It just doesn't make
You seem bound to post off-topic photos, so I guess
to that extend you are not free. Or, you feel free
to take up internet band-space for no good reason.
Yifu:
fish market, 1935
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/32470.jpg
I just think he was full of it and that
his premises
There's a deep message there.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
You seem bound to post off-topic photos, so I guess
to that extend you are not free. Or, you feel free
to take up internet band-space for no good reason.
Yifu:
fish market, 1935
curtisdeltablues:
You may be overstating that since Samkhya
came a lot later than many of the
principles in Hinduism...
Samkhya came long before 'Hinduism'; before
the historical Buddha (563BCE), and before
Buddhism. That's why historians think the
Buddha may have been influenced by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it
all about Buddhism, I'm going to bring it back to its
original subject, Patanjali, and a quote of his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it
all about Buddhism,
If experience of reality *isn't* painful to him, why
does Barry have to start his rant against Patanjali
with a lie? Compulsive denial and distortion of
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