[FairfieldLife] Re: India - Mirror of Truth, was: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 12:36 PM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Paul. You saved my day. Ingegerd Don't forget that you're not going to be able to print this. You're going to have to sit at your computer

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM cafe

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on recent discussions, I'm going to start a cafe for TM True Believers in which they pay me $2500 for a membership, and then they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding personal checking: is it confidential? That is, like the confidentiality between a doctor and a patient or a clergy and a parishioner, is what goes on in the checking room confidential? I don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding personal checking: is it confidential? That is, like the confidentiality between a doctor and a patient or a clergy and a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
Contact MUM about the nearest World Peace Palace. You can take out a low-interest student loan to learn TM, and I would guess, to learn an advanced technique as well... * The loan to learn TM is not low-interest (the Citibank Citiassist loan is prime rate plus

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rapid enlightnement and global prosperity will be ensured if all people took advantage of all the Maharishi Technologies for Enlightenment. Full cost is $300,000. Which is only $3 a day over 100 years.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/06 12:20:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They're living a monastic life, and are really doing it. They meditate for a living. Sponsors support them. Most of them have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding personal checking: is it confidential? That is,

[FairfieldLife] Bending (aa_kuñcana) and muula-bandha?

2006-01-05 Thread cardemaister
From Yoga-kuNDalyupaniSat (kundalini-yoga): adhogatim apaanaM vai uurdhvagaM kurute balaat . aaku~nchanena taM praahurmuulabandho.ayamuchyate .. 42.. [When one] forcibly (balaat) makes (kurute) the downwardsgoing (adho-gatim) apaana upwardsgoing (uurdhva-gam) by bending(??aakuñcanena), that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding personal checking: is it confidential? That

[FairfieldLife] Re: India - Mirror of Truth, was: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 12:36 PM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Paul. You saved my day. Ingegerd Don't forget that you're

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contact MUM about the nearest World Peace Palace. You can take out a low-interest student loan to learn TM, and I would guess, to learn an advanced technique as well... * The loan to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
It sounds like in the early-early days Guru Dev's teaching was still fairly fresh in his awareness, but that the freshness diminished as time passed, to the point where he now represents a teaching quite alien to that of Guru Dev's. That is the corrupting force of materialism, which he appears

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
In case anyone should think otherwise, although it is tempting I am not championing Guru Dev's teaching, merely noting the apparent divergance of thought between MMY and his guru. There are aspects of both of their teachings that seem odd. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like in the early-early days Guru Dev's teaching was still fairly fresh in his awareness, but that the freshness diminished as time passed, to the point where he now represents a teaching quite

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: India - Mirror of Truth, was: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2006, at 3:09 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: on 1/4/06 12:36 PM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Paul. You saved my day. Ingegerd Don't forget that you're not going to be able to print this.  You're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:Now imagine being a young, naive guy from India who has either lived with his mother or in an  ashram all his life, and who suddenly winds up  not only being the object of focus of tens of  thousands of TM students but the object of focus for the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Vaj wrote:On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:Now imagine being a young, naive guy from Indiawho has either lived with his mother or in an ashram all his life, and who suddenly winds up not only being the object of focus of tens of thousands of TM students

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
I learned the hard way not to reveal names of people I instructed in TM. Someone I had instructed told me she did not appreciate having someone yell across the workplace cafeteria, Hey! I heard you learned TM! With that I generalized that discretion is always a sound policy, whether

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/06 10:11:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is, like the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you're not doing psychotherapy. You're there to check their meditation. I've checked hundreds of people in my time and nobody ever started talking about their problems. They knew that they were there to have their

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Ingegerd
This is my opinion too. His thinking was more in accordance with Guru Dev. Not quite - as I read the quotes from Guru Dev, but more etichal than what he shows these days. I think the influence of Guru Dev faded more and more as he became The Big Guru. Ingegerd --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like in the early-early days Guru Dev's teaching was still fairly fresh in his awareness, but that the freshness

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contact MUM about the nearest World Peace Palace. You can take out a low-interest student loan to learn TM, and I would guess, to learn an advanced technique as well... * The loan to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
As far as I know, Guru Dev lived in a mansion in his retirement called the Jyotir Math, with servants and massive donors from the Hindu community, as well as many volunteers (which included Maharishi fro a decade or so). OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
I think you people are missing the point, big-time. The very fact that someone should have to take out a loan to learn to meditate is what's criminal. And the organization that places the people of the world in that position are the criminals. Ridiculous. This is what it has been

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Jyotir Math has been described here on FFL as a lodge, furthermore it appears that Guru Dev seldom visited Jyotir Math. The term retirement is a surprising way to describe the period Guru Dev undertook the position of Shankaracharya of Northern India. Is it possible that you might share your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2006, at 9:23 AM, off_world_beings wrote:Ridiculous. This is what it has been like since the beginning of  time. Someone has to pay for the spiritual movement. In ancient  times an Ashram in India was paid for by donors and patrons, a lot  of volunteerism on the part of those who can't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/5/06 2:34:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The very fact that someone should have to take outa loan to learn to meditate is what's criminal. Andthe organization that places the people of the worldin that position are the criminals.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/5/06 2:45:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How many of them has Maharishi proclaimed as fully enlightened? They haven't come up with a price for that yet.LOL.But it's not as far-fetched as you think. I know ofone spiritual author

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, Guru Dev lived in a mansion in his retirement called the Jyotir Math, with servants and massive donors from the Hindu community, as well as many volunteers (which included Maharishi fro a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you people are missing the point, big-time. The very fact that someone should have to take out a loan to learn to meditate is what's criminal. And the organization that places the people of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAM Cost

2006-01-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/4/06 8:38 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cost of the course that I saw was when Amma herself was in Toronto giving it. It was that or more. You could only take it by going on the retreat. That was the cost of a weekend retreat with Amma. It included one's hotel room and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/5/06 2:51 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will say only that the number one fantasy sex *object* during that period was Rindy Schwartz. Go figure. For you, or for the people you were checking? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join

[FairfieldLife] Spot The Fake Smile

2006-01-05 Thread Alex Stanley
http://tinyurl.com/2u7sh http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/index.shtml I got 18 out of 20. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/5/06 7:52:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But you're not doing psychotherapy. You're there tocheck their meditation. I've checked hundreds ofpeople in my time and nobody ever started talkingabout their "problems." They knew that they

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you people are missing the point, big-time. The very fact that someone should have to take out a loan to learn to meditate is what's criminal. And the organization that places the people of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 9:23 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Ridiculous. This is what it has been like since the beginning of time. Someone has to pay for the spiritual movement. In ancient times an Ashram in India was paid for

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
Jyotir Math was a comfortable living in India, with servants and massive donors from the Hindu community (this is common knowledge, and you are being a naive western baby boomer if you think it was otherwise), as well as many volunteers (which included Maharishi for a decade or so). Guru Dev

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:46 AM, off_world_beings wrote:Nonsense. Even Jesus accepted money for his Church. Monks and  priests have always been paid for their services since the beginning  of time. Ancient cultures considered these services paramount and  the most practical thing they could do, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contact MUM about the nearest World Peace Palace. You can take out a low-interest student loan to learn TM, and I would guess, to learn an advanced technique as well... * The loan to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you people are missing the point, big-time. The very fact that someone should have to take out a loan to learn to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:46 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Nonsense. Even Jesus accepted money for his Church. Monks and priests have always been paid for their services since the beginning of time. Ancient cultures

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like in the early-early days Guru Dev's teaching was still fairly fresh in his awareness, but that the freshness diminished as time passed, to the point where he now represents a teaching quite

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case anyone should think otherwise, although it is tempting I am not championing Guru Dev's teaching, merely noting the apparent divergance of thought between MMY and his guru. There are aspects of both

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my opinion too. His thinking was more in accordance with Guru Dev. Not quite - as I read the quotes from Guru Dev, but more etichal than what he shows these days. I think the influence of Guru Dev faded more

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like in the early-early days Guru Dev's teaching was still fairly fresh in his awareness, but that the freshness diminished as time passed, to the point where he now represents a teaching quite

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:06 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my opinion too. His thinking was more in accordance with  Guru Dev. Not quite - as I read the quotes from Guru Dev, but more  etichal than what he shows these days. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAM Cost

2006-01-05 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 8:38 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cost of the course that I saw was when Amma herself was in Toronto giving it. It was that or more. You could only take it by going on the retreat. That was the cost of a weekend

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread feste37
I agree with authfriend here. I taught TM full time for a short while and supported myself doing so. I worked hard and deserved what I earned from it. It was just as much a job as anything else I could have done. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day - Now GReen TMO

2006-01-05 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it awful that Maharishi has spent so long promoting healthy living, electric vehicles, solar panel factory in India, organic farming and greenhouses, and a balanced and nature-friendly

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contact MUM about the nearest World Peace Palace. You can take out a low-interest student loan to learn TM, and I would guess, to

[FairfieldLife] Income in Fairfield

2006-01-05 Thread johnlasher20002000
I thought this might be of interest for anyone considering moving to Fairfield or who would like a relatively hands free type of income while they go on courses or other activities. Retire or relocate to Fairfield Ideal business opportunity Great retirement income. Currently nets over $30,000

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:46 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Nonsense. Even Jesus accepted money for his Church. Monks and priests have

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread markmeredith2002
When I taught full time I never saw myself as selling mantras or some such thing, but charging for the cost of maintaining a center, publicity and other expenses, and a maintainance lifestyle for me the teacher - plus of course giving about 1/2 to the parent corp as a franchise fee for its role in

[FairfieldLife] 'Life is Bliss'- Businessportal24 (Pressemitteilung) - Bad Lausick,Germany

2006-01-05 Thread Robert Gimbel
Pressefächer Deutsche Nachrichten Agentur Maharishi's Message "LIFE IS BLISS" Echoes from the Rooftop of the World TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION Editorial by Uttam Maharjan in The Rising Nepal, Gorkhapatra Today, health is a major concern as people have become more and more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/5/06 11:12:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People continue to meditate because they have good experience, regardless of what they have paid or not paid.If they have not good experience, they stop even if they have paid $ 2.500. And if

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I taught full time I never saw myself as selling mantras or some such thing, but charging for the cost of maintaining a center, publicity and other expenses, and a maintainance lifestyle for me the teacher -

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I taught full time I never saw myself as selling mantras or some such thing, but charging for the cost of maintaining a center, publicity and other expenses, and a maintainance lifestyle for me the teacher -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Income in Fairfield

2006-01-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
Utopia Park is for sale? Gosh, the TMO must be even more desperate than I thought. And calling it 'ideal' when almost 25% of the trailers are currently empty seems a bit fanciful. I imagine if anybody (other than the Zims) had that kind of cash to pony up, Fairfield would not be the first place

[FairfieldLife] Re: Income in Fairfield

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:12 AM, johnlasher20002000 wrote: I thought this might be of interest for anyone considering moving to Fairfield or who would like a relatively hands free type of income while they go on courses or other activities. Retire or relocate to Fairfield Ideal

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
If AoL teaches equivalent meditation at $200 (per cite on another post) and Amma's IAM technique is $250 (to attend a retreat to get the technique for free) then each is around $20 in 1968 price terms. Almost half the SIMS student rate. Quite a deal. Do both for about the same as the SIMS $35

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] One could argue (not me particularly) that the value of the product has increased due to the availability of adjunct products that are now available to enhance the core product: AV, SV, GV, jyotish, yagyas, gems, sidhis,

Re: [FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2006, at 1:44 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:If AoL teaches "equivalent" meditation at $200 (per cite on another post) and  Amma's IAM technique is $250 (to attend a retreat to get the technique for free)You don't need to go on one of Amma's retreats to get her method--at least you didn't

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] One could argue (not me particularly) that the value of the product has increased due to the availability of adjunct products that are now available to enhance the core product: AV, SV, GV, jyotish, yagyas, gems, sidhis,

[FairfieldLife] Cholesterol levels

2006-01-05 Thread truth . sayer
I'm wondering about TM's affect on cholesterol levels. Can anyone tell me what their HDL level is? I'm looking for firsthand information, please; I'm already familiar with the scientific evidence. My HDL (good) cholesterol level is inordinately high -- about 125, as opposed to 35-40, which

[FairfieldLife] Flash-back India/Feb 23, 1968.

2006-01-05 Thread Robert Gimbel
Beatles' Guru Is Turning Them Into Gurus With a Cram Course By JOSEPH LELYVELD Special to The New York TimesRISHIKESH, India, Feb. 22 -All four Beatles are now settled in a retreat here by the Ganges that their globe-trotting guru, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, maintains for those who follow

[FairfieldLife] 'Happy Birthday Maharishi'

2006-01-05 Thread Robert Gimbel
Blessed Deep Silence, Maharishi... Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spot The Fake Smile

2006-01-05 Thread truth . sayer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2u7sh http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/index.shtml I got 18 out of 20. Me, too. Plus, one miss I really labored over, finally deciding he was faking cause he reminded

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
Looking at the $2500 fee, and the costs involved, it appears resonable for a full time teacher, teaching about 30 students a month or so. Break down the cost allocations: Franchise Fee 50% SV Facilities 10% Office Exp. Support 5% Advertising and PR

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spot The Fake Smile

2006-01-05 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, truth.sayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2u7sh http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/index.shtml I got 18 out of 20. Me, too.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Clearly you are correct Ingegerd. There is a tape recording made on 12th May 1960 in London of the 1st Training Course for Mediation Gurides, also on the tape is a recording of MMY's visit to the SES and Dr Roles. Early in the 1960. He held checking courses for meditators in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spot The Fake Smile

2006-01-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
Um, that lots of people on this list have waaay too much time on their hands? :) Sal On Jan 5, 2006, at 1:44 PM, truth.sayer wrote: Me, too. Plus, one miss I really labored over, finally deciding he was faking cause he reminded me of somewhat I dislike. Thanks for the fun . . . but what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Mediation Gurides = Meditation Guides --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly you are correct Ingegerd. There is a tape recording made on 12th May 1960 in London of the 1st Training Course for Mediation Gurides, also on the tape is a

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the $2500 fee, and the costs involved, it appears resonable for a full time teacher, teaching about 30 students a month or so. If you want it taught only by volunteers in their (non sv) homes, then

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to TM Teachers

2006-01-05 Thread Ingegerd
I am not sure, but I think the course to train checkers in Tyrol is mentioned in the Historybook about MMY Tours around the World. But the checkers was travelling around for many years to meditation centres to guide people into meditation, answering questions about things they hardly

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contact MUM about the nearest World Peace Palace. You can take out a low-interest student loan to learn TM, and I would guess, to learn an advanced technique as well... * The loan to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Income in Fairfield

2006-01-05 Thread bbrigante
John Lasher does not own Utopia Park. The trailer park in question is in town. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Utopia Park is for sale? Gosh, the TMO must be even more desperate than I thought. And calling it 'ideal' when almost 25% of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spot The Fake Smile

2006-01-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
Eighteen out of 20 for me, too, which surprised me. I didn't think I'd do that well. Did you read about Ekman's work in the New Yorker last year? I'd love the ability to read faces the way he can. The article told about a flash of a smirk that gave away Bill Clinton when he was lying about

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
Thanks for the cost comparisons. I suspect that, had the TMO continued to amass good research to support its case, a $1,000 course fee would be reasonable today. But the ideological zeal, the death of Skip Alexander and Maharishi's abandonment of science all demolished that possibility. TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spot The Fake Smile

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
If you like Ekman's work, and get LinkTV, check out the "Lunch with Bokara" episode "Meditation, Emotions Body Language" which feature Vipassana/Insight junkie Jack Kornfield and Paul Ekman. They seem to replay them fairly often.On Jan 5, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:Did you read

[FairfieldLife] India: Government Agency ready to build houses and offices according to Vastu!

2006-01-05 Thread Ron F
from: MohanIs Maharishi's Predictions Concerning India Coming True?JGD,MohanLayout according to vastuby Chtan AnandHindustan Translate This ArticleNew Delhi, India3 January 2006On 3 January 2006 Hindustan reported: After reviewing research, the Indian government's

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is $2500 too much? It is, from any rational human point-of-view, but... I havenÕt laughed this hard since joining... Whatever Fairfield Life is paying this guy it isnÕt enough. Priceless!! --

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Income in Fairfield

2006-01-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
Well that changes everything, doesn't it? I take it all back. It's a great deal. Only a fool would pass up such an opportunity. Sal On Jan 5, 2006, at 4:17 PM, bbrigante wrote: ohn Lasher does not own Utopia Park. The trailer park in question is in town. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Witness-consciousness

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
Your Original Face-the ever-present Witness (from Kosmic Consciousness).http://homepage.mac.com/vajranatha/FileSharing2.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO!

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the $2500 fee Break down the cost allocations: Franchise Fee 50% SV Facilities 10% Office Exp. Support 5% Advertising and PR10% Presentation

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:46 AM, off_world_beings wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I taught full time I never saw myself as selling mantras or some such thing, but charging for the cost of maintaining a center, publicity and other expenses, and a maintainance lifestyle for me the teacher -

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/5/06 11:12:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People continue to meditate because they have good experience, regardless of what they have paid or not paid. If they have not

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I taught full time I never saw myself as selling mantras or some such thing, but charging for the cost of maintaining a

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the $2500 fee, and the costs involved, it appears resonable for a full time teacher, teaching about 30 students a

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (See link. You need to do some multiplication to get the index back 38 years.) http://www.watsonwyatt.com/europe/pubs/longtermstats/render2.asp? ID=14440 That is exactly what I was just thinking. Thanks

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the cost comparisons. I suspect that, had the TMO continued to amass good research to support its case, a $1,000 course fee would be reasonable today. But the ideological zeal, the death of Skip

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the $2500 fee, and the costs involved, it appears resonable for a full time teacher, teaching about 30 students a month or so. Break down the cost allocations: Franchise Fee 50% SV

[FairfieldLife] A good swim costs about $8,000.

2006-01-05 Thread off_world_beings
I just paid $650 to go swimming a few times a weekfor a year. Over 10 years this will likely be about $8,000 with inflation. TM lasts a lifetime and gets better over the life of the product and does not depreciate like a car. Even if you have not meditated for years, if one found oneself in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] A good swim costs about $8,000.

2006-01-05 Thread nobody
Yes, i agree with you brother. Let's take a little time to think how much we spend for car and house already? Then we think which one is the most important in your life? your self or your car of your house? if you have good car and nice house, but you forget your self, you are not taking

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- off_world_beings posted: REHABILITATION 2004: The Journal of Offender Rehabilitation, http://tinyurl.com/cqrn5 Irrelevant to a pre-indictment individual who's considering learning a meditation technique. May be of interest to government officials, though. The real need here is to

Re: [FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2006, at 8:27 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Excellent Analyis ! Someone should keep this so that when all the gripers start griping  they can be referred to it, then maybe the horse can stop being  whipped. I just paid $650 to join a swim pool for a year for lap swim 3 or 4  times a

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