[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. No escape? On the Internet? Here's seven of them. Escapes, that is: 1. Step away from the networked device. 2. Go to a different site. 3. Turn off your networking device. 4. Stop, and then share your impressions directly with the poster. 5. Breathe deeply, think it through, and recognize your part in it. 6. Examine why, in a voluntary, public, virtual group, you felt faced with no escape. 7. Have some pie and coffee. 8. Eat a chicken sandwich. Hat tip, Dr. Pete. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
[FairfieldLife] Mind over matter?
It is said he should've been dead long ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy_Kilmister http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZrntE3vNe8 (Blimey, that drummer is RELY DRUNKEN?? LoL!)
[FairfieldLife] KT: suutras with easy syntax, part 1
YS II 28: yogaan.gaanuSThaanaad ashuddhikSaye jñaanadiiptir aa vivekajñaateH. ( yoga-an.ga-anuSThaanaat; ashuddhi-kSaye jñaana-diiptiH; aa vivekajñaateH.) Alistair Shearer's TMish translation: The distinction between pure consciousness and the world is revealed by the light of knowledge, when the nervous system has been purified by the practice of yoga. Sketchy word-for-word : yoga-limb-following-from impurity-destruction-in knowledge-radiance till* discrimination-knowledge. * This is one of the rare instances where a *genuine* preposition (aa = till, etc.) appears in the YS!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. But of course, as you so often say, the fault was all on my ex Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:54 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** like I said, B for boring. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Honesty is good. But I don't believe in the notions of karma and reincarnation, unless karma meant actions we perform. But even then - I think being in service of truth and being aligned with the existence's will is what works for me - even if that means I am rude and insulting, I have an extremely low tolerance for bullshit, purveyors of bullshit who think they can peddle their bullshit unchallenged. My challenge this lifetime has been to properly channel this anger, it would overwhelm me with confusion, burden, guilt earlier but now I feed off it. I can now precisely target these peddlers of bullshit without letting my anger overwhelm me. Anyway I digress - I don't think you or anyone else will reincarnate - animal or not. I am actually in line with Christianity here - I'm too narcissistic, Ravi has only been created once and will exist for the rest of the eternity, I will not accept anything else unless I can come back as a better me again and I will fight for it tooth and nail :-) But of course there is no proof of reincarnation of individuals, unless reincarnation meant manifestations of consciousness, as in consciouness incarnates again and again which then again implies there will be only one Ravi and Emily - all this is subject to modification though - who fucking knows. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife to consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't want to be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be fine, with a friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean how much closer to God might I get?) -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other person's feeling or deny that it even exists. Wow, good - thank you. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, offended someone. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our little Dutch girl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What a beautiful photo, turq. And what a quality of wonder and radiance Maya has. Made my morning. Thank you. Thanks to you (and Susan) for noticing the light in the photo -- both ambient and inner. Maya's the reason I don't mind at all commuting back to Leiden on the weekends. Being able to spend time with her again has provided an interesting counterpoint to Fairfield Life and the depths to which it has sunk lately. I mean, you've got one person who, in a total of 13 hours of posting time (time between her first post of each day and her last) managed to spew 31 hate-posts at everyone here. That's 2.38 hate-spews per hour. If Rick hadn't implemented the Posting Limits, given an eight-hour work day of spewing hatred, at this rate we would be subjected to 133+ posts from her a week. As we *were* back in the Bad Old Days before he created the Posting Limits. Then you've got those who continue to pile on to her hate-posts to help her get the people she's obses- sing on this week. That adds to the puddle of spew. And then you've got people like yourself, Share, who just won't allow shit like this to die, and keep trying to provoke more interactions with them, when you *already know* how they'll turn out. I honestly think you do it because getting negative attention is more important to you than getting no attention at all. Meanwhile intelligent conversation of any kind has largely been forgotten, and is sorely missing. Xeno provides a little light, as does Curtis when he's either talking about the creative process or demon- strating it in his writing, and a few other posters shine from time to time. The rest is pretty much reruns of the same olde TM is the best thing in the world stuff vs. the TM sucks stuff. Meanwhile Maya laughs and radiates good vibes and we go on long walks with the dogs or do pleasant things. Or during the week I'm in Paris, taking long walks or sitting in my writing cafes and having fun with that or having fun just having a life. Even *work* is more pleasant these days than reading FFL. That's why it only takes me a few seconds to catch up after hours away from it, as I'm doing now. I've learned to ignore all but a handful of posters, and read only the ones who have established a track record of having something to say. So I think I'll sign off now, and not bother with any of the other spew posted since yesterday afternoon, when I last checked in. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Our little Dutch girl Already dressed in orange for the upcoming Queen's Day festivities. Vermeer would have killed to be able to paint her.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
Meditation shall set you free, Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; I wish to submit in to the record for discussion a previous testimony given by FFL resident scholar and expert of Sanskrit transliteration, our distinguished elder meditating member and linguist from Finland. Mr. Moderator, please include for our larger consideration the record of the testimony given in FFL post number 302944 and its related replies on the topic of the correct translation of the Sanskrit of the Saha Nav hymn in to English. For our current review of the resolution please admit in to the record this link to the post by Cardemaister fra Finland about the more proper translation of the TM Saha Nav hymn: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302944 Most Respectfully, -Buck FFL, A Question for the forum: Are there any witnesses present as to the origin of the TM version of the Saha Nav hymn? When was the Saha Nav hymn first transliterated the way the TM movement uses it? Lurkers who are without their own exclusive membership with posting privileges are always free to contact and send their testimony to the FFL owner listed at the home page for FFL as a way of being included in FFL. Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir, A Point of order; there seems to be a discrepancy between the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn on the one hand and the TM movement's version which was created. We should need expert witness as to reconcile the evident difference to the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn and the origin of the TM version used by the TM movement for their purposes. Could witnesses come forward to testify as to the facts on the discrepancy? Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; Let us proceed now directly to the discussion of the Saha Nav resolution, The Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect, otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: Amen to this buck Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; I take this Amen of the distinguished elder meditator from Upstate of the Great State of New York as a second to the motion on the Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution. -Buck In a message dated 04/26/13 16:15:50 Eastern Daylight Time, Buck writes: FFL Moderators, List Owner, Friends; as a motion for consideration, I move we consider the adoption of the more correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn as: The Fairfieldlife (FFL) Resolution of Mutual Respect: Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; May It nourish us both together; May we work conjointly with great energy, May our study be vigorous and effective; May we not mutually dispute or may we not hate any. -Buck Friends, as a means to have constructive engagement with these nay-bobs of anti-meditation negativity here, In process first we need to enact a FFL resolution of mutual respect to have something in all our favor to rally around to enforce against the anti-meditators here. As a motion of consideration I hereby move the adoption of the The FFL Saha Nav Resolution. For top banner publication across the FFL homepage. -Buck I feel it is quite time to invoke emergency measures here to protect the integrity of FFL as a public and spiritual forum. Though I do not look for this position, but as it is now brought to us and if however brought and placed by a loyal Unified Field of FFL into a position of authority to wrought out the necessary positive change to FFL security I should willingly step forward and volunteer if drafted by the community to serve as a channel to help with this great task. I look to all your support with this great endeavor to make FFL a spiritually safe place once again. -Buck Yes, considering TM as being under a general blog internet attack here and its ongoing specious forms of persistent FFL anti-meditation bush-whacking terrorism; not withstanding, there are clearly some anti-meditation radicals trying to live here among us who would blow up and derail passenger trains of innocents crossing over river bridges if they could. Stinking anti-meditation terrorists. It is time we do some things more to protect our spiritual securities ourselves for all we love, our families, our friends
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
saha n#257;v avatu | saha nau bhunaktu | saha v#299;rya#7747; karav#257;vahai | tejasvi n#257;v adh#299;tam astu | m#257; vidvi#7779;#257;vahai | Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; I wish to submit in to the record for discussion a previous testimony given by FFL resident scholar and expert of Sanskrit transliteration, our distinguished elder meditating member and linguist from Finland. Mr. Moderator, please include for our larger consideration the record of the testimony given in FFL post number 302944 and its related replies on the topic of the correct translation of the Sanskrit of the Saha Nav hymn in to English. For our current review of the resolution please admit in to the record this link to the post by Cardemaister fra Finland about the more proper translation of the TM Saha Nav hymn: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302944 Most Respectfully, -Buck FFL, A Question for the forum: Are there any witnesses present as to the origin of the TM version of the Saha Nav hymn? When was the Saha Nav hymn first transliterated the way the TM movement uses it? Lurkers who are without their own exclusive membership with posting privileges are always free to contact and send their testimony to the FFL owner listed at the home page for FFL as a way of being included in FFL. Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir, A Point of order; there seems to be a discrepancy between the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn on the one hand and the TM movement's version which was created. We should need expert witness as to reconcile the evident difference to the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn and the origin of the TM version used by the TM movement for their purposes. Could witnesses come forward to testify as to the facts on the discrepancy? Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; Let us proceed now directly to the discussion of the Saha Nav resolution, The Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect, otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: Amen to this buck Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; I take this Amen of the distinguished elder meditator from Upstate of the Great State of New York as a second to the motion on the Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution. -Buck In a message dated 04/26/13 16:15:50 Eastern Daylight Time, Buck writes: FFL Moderators, List Owner, Friends; as a motion for consideration, I move we consider the adoption of the more correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn as: The Fairfieldlife (FFL) Resolution of Mutual Respect: Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; May It nourish us both together; May we work conjointly with great energy, May our study be vigorous and effective; May we not mutually dispute or may we not hate any. -Buck Friends, as a means to have constructive engagement with these nay-bobs of anti-meditation negativity here, In process first we need to enact a FFL resolution of mutual respect to have something in all our favor to rally around to enforce against the anti-meditators here. As a motion of consideration I hereby move the adoption of the The FFL Saha Nav Resolution. For top banner publication across the FFL homepage. -Buck I feel it is quite time to invoke emergency measures here to protect the integrity of FFL as a public and spiritual forum. Though I do not look for this position, but as it is now brought to us and if however brought and placed by a loyal Unified Field of FFL into a position of authority to wrought out the necessary positive change to FFL security I should willingly step forward and volunteer if drafted by the community to serve as a channel to help with this great task. I look to all your support with this great endeavor to make FFL a spiritually safe place once again. -Buck Yes, considering TM as being under a general blog internet attack here and its ongoing specious forms of persistent FFL anti-meditation bush-whacking terrorism; not withstanding, there are clearly some anti-meditation radicals trying to live here among us who would blow up and derail passenger trains of innocents crossing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my feelings on it. It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic, entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women, I tried hard but it was hard for me to interpret the lyrics as anything but gang rape - I don't see, have never heard of any woman in any culture trying to get back at a man by sleeping with multiple men at the same time regardless of men's fantasies. Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their heart-centeredness - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for a yuppie audience I will say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to have multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman. Fine to be sexist, misogynistic as an artistic expression in music, movie for entertainment but surely not a prescription for a modern, liberal, sophisticated society. I love India and Hinduism but I will the first one to condemn it as a misogynistic culture, trust me it was no fun watching a woman struggle to raise kids all the while being taunted, abused by the narrow minded Hindu culture - why? Because she went against the society's norms and dared to have a boy friend - while it's OK for men to cheat secretly and indulge in all kinds of repressed, perverted sexual practices. On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:28 PM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Raunchy, I think Curtis is correct in his interpretation, in terms of historical context and what the author of those lyrics was intending to communicate to his audience, at least that's how it hits me in the moment this morning. Â The song lyrics contain, of course, a cultural element and there are many blues songs that speak to the black man loving his woman and how she done him wrong, etc., etc. Â The black culture also brings a different attitude towards sexuality than our puritan caucasian one does and it speaks to that as well. Â And in the black culture, it is true that the woman is in charge. Â Smile. Â Â I hadn't followed this thread, so when I read the lyrics this morning, I had a visceral reaction of revulsion to what evoked an image of gang rape. I din't buy Curtis' GF's take that it was not rape but a woman in her power blowing off her husband and living a hedonistic fantasy. Your initial reaction that the lyrics were more sinister may have been similar to mine. I didn't take time to explain how I felt about the lyrics to Curtis, first because I didn't have the time and second, at first blush I thought his retrospective was a tad self-serving. Perhaps I was wrong about Curtis' motivations as he claims. Regardless, it felt like spin to me, so c'est la vie. But now that you agree with Curtis' interpretation and added an attempted layer of understanding on black culture, I'll take a shot at explaining why I reacted to the lyrics as I did. True, the woman done him wrong but as I see it, in no culture does a woman consent to gang rape, ever, and certainly not just to piss off a cuckolded spouse. Further, I don't believe that black women are any more capable of owing their sexual power than white women, and seems rather stereotypical. No doubt the guy feels victimized wallowing in poor me as Curtis suggests, but no matter the cultural background, I don't believe the lyrics imply that the woman, vis a vis the man's property, was having consensual sex with a gang of men. I could be accused of putting my white girl judgement on the lyrics, but in this case, I think not. So here's my interpretation: Oh you banjo roustabout When you goin to the shore I got a good gal on that other shore Baby don't you want to go RD: He wishes his woman could go with him but since she can't, he expresses a pang of guilt for cheating on her, Oh you banjo roustabout, says he, in slightly humorous self-deprecation, but, Oh well, a man has needs and I'm just missing you, Baby. If I had an old pairs of wings Like Noah's dove I'd sail from pine to pine Looking for my own true love Indeed, he misses his woman. Noah's dove is a wonderful metaphor. He's on the sea without sight of shore for many days, and perhaps pine is a pun for longing. I'd a listened to what my momma said I wouldn't be here today But me being young and foolish too women lead me astray RD: He regrets he didn't listen to his momma telling him not to womanize but rather than take responsibility, he blames women for leading him astray. Who's
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Yay!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down - one's stuff ripped open forcefully one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years old? Or is it some fear of death? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Yay!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin Powers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down - one's stuff ripped open forcefully one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years old? Or is it some fear of death? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Yay!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway.Ã Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils.Ã No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them!Ã Psychologically raped!Ã Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our little Dutch girl
Curious as to what kinds of dogs you have. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our little Dutch girl --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What a beautiful photo, turq. And what a quality of wonder and radiance Maya has. Made my morning. Thank you. Thanks to you (and Susan) for noticing the light in the photo -- both ambient and inner. Maya's the reason I don't mind at all commuting back to Leiden on the weekends. Being able to spend time with her again has provided an interesting counterpoint to Fairfield Life and the depths to which it has sunk lately. I mean, you've got one person who, in a total of 13 hours of posting time (time between her first post of each day and her last) managed to spew 31 hate-posts at everyone here. That's 2.38 hate-spews per hour. If Rick hadn't implemented the Posting Limits, given an eight-hour work day of spewing hatred, at this rate we would be subjected to 133+ posts from her a week. As we *were* back in the Bad Old Days before he created the Posting Limits. Then you've got those who continue to pile on to her hate-posts to help her get the people she's obses- sing on this week. That adds to the puddle of spew. And then you've got people like yourself, Share, who just won't allow shit like this to die, and keep trying to provoke more interactions with them, when you *already know* how they'll turn out. I honestly think you do it because getting negative attention is more important to you than getting no attention at all. Meanwhile intelligent conversation of any kind has largely been forgotten, and is sorely missing. Xeno provides a little light, as does Curtis when he's either talking about the creative process or demon- strating it in his writing, and a few other posters shine from time to time. The rest is pretty much reruns of the same olde TM is the best thing in the world stuff vs. the TM sucks stuff. Meanwhile Maya laughs and radiates good vibes and we go on long walks with the dogs or do pleasant things. Or during the week I'm in Paris, taking long walks or sitting in my writing cafes and having fun with that or having fun just having a life. Even *work* is more pleasant these days than reading FFL. That's why it only takes me a few seconds to catch up after hours away from it, as I'm doing now. I've learned to ignore all but a handful of posters, and read only the ones who have established a track record of having something to say. So I think I'll sign off now, and not bother with any of the other spew posted since yesterday afternoon, when I last checked in. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Our little Dutch girl Already dressed in orange for the upcoming Queen's Day festivities. Vermeer would have killed to be able to paint her.
[FairfieldLife] Chuck Norris Larger than Life
Features » Sunday Magazine Sir Chuck Norris ANANTHA NARAYAN It all began in the summer of 2005, when Ian Spector invited people to make up their own fun facts about Chuck Norris for a humour section in his website. Overnight the satirical factoids became e-mail forwards and thus was born the god of all gods. From a B-grade action movie star, Chuck Norris became the omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent superhero who could do no wrong. Every aspect of his deadpan persona became grist for some rip roaring hyperboles. Here's a selection of the sparklers that was later recycled as 'original' Rajnikant and Sir Jadeja jokes. Chuck Norris can strangle you with a cordless phone. Violence is an integral part of the Texas Ranger's charm. Naturally, fans tripped over one another to compose hosannas around his fear factor. That's how 'Chuck Norris can hit you so hard, your blood will bleed', 'He doesn’t shower, he only takes blood baths', 'He can make a happy meal cry' kind of bombast came into being. The impossibility of taking a panga with Chuck was best captured by this punch line: 'Once a cobra bit his leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.' Chuck Norris can speak Braille. To create a megastar aura, the protagonist must breach the wall of credulity. Chuck Norris, by definition being larger than larger-than-life, was credited with absurdly jaw-dropping feats to bolster the image of The Amazing One. Which is why we get to hear of accomplishments like: Chuck Norris can delete the recycle bin, 'He can make the onions cry', 'He can play the violin with a piano', 'He can kill two stones with one bird' and 'He can squeeze orange juice out of a lemon'! Chuck Norris' blood type is AK-47. Fearlessness is another key element in myth making. Jokesters of the Chuck cult did their bit to perpetuate this misimpression. The story goes that when young Chuck Norris was in middle school his English teacher asked him to pen an essay on 'What is Courage?' The little boy thought for a nanosecond, scribbled only his name on the blank answer sheet and submitted that as his piece. The gobsmacked teacher gave him an A+. Chuck Norris runs on his treadmill until the treadmill gets tired. Incredible physical deeds offer one more valve for generating laughs. Stuff such as 'Chuck Norris beat the sun in a staring contest', 'He once climbed Mt. Everest in 15 minutes, 14 of which was spent on building a snowman at the bottom', and 'Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth and boils the water with his own rage' provide clues as to why 'Superman wears the Chuck Norris suit'. Chuck Norris is the only person that can punch a Cyclops between the eye. Chuck is an icon among nerds as he offers the perfect algorithm for expressing cerebral wit. So, be it the chemistry laden Chuck Norris doesn’t recognise the periodic table, because the only element he recognises is the element of surprise or the biological 'Oxygen requires Chuck Norris to live', or even the very mathematical 'Chuck Norris counted to infinity, twice', the geek always has the last laugh. Chuck Norris doesn't flush the toilet. He scares the s**t out of it. Word play is on steroids when the subject is Mr. Norris. 'The only reason Thor is the god of lightning is because Chuck Norris stole his thunder' and 'His daughter lost her virginity, he got it back' are some samplers that go to prove the adage that 'Chuck can inject some fun even into a funeral'. --
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our little Dutch girl
Children are a pure delight. Glad to see you are spending less time on here, or so you say. Will it translate to reality? Only time will tell, and one can only hope.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What a beautiful photo, turq. And what a quality of wonder and radiance Maya has. Made my morning. Thank you. Thanks to you (and Susan) for noticing the light in the photo -- both ambient and inner. Maya's the reason I don't mind at all commuting back to Leiden on the weekends. Being able to spend time with her again has provided an interesting counterpoint to Fairfield Life and the depths to which it has sunk lately. I mean, you've got one person who, in a total of 13 hours of posting time (time between her first post of each day and her last) managed to spew 31 hate-posts at everyone here. That's 2.38 hate-spews per hour. If Rick hadn't implemented the Posting Limits, given an eight-hour work day of spewing hatred, at this rate we would be subjected to 133+ posts from her a week. As we *were* back in the Bad Old Days before he created the Posting Limits. Then you've got those who continue to pile on to her hate-posts to help her get the people she's obses- sing on this week. That adds to the puddle of spew. And then you've got people like yourself, Share, who just won't allow shit like this to die, and keep trying to provoke more interactions with them, when you *already know* how they'll turn out. I honestly think you do it because getting negative attention is more important to you than getting no attention at all. Meanwhile intelligent conversation of any kind has largely been forgotten, and is sorely missing. Xeno provides a little light, as does Curtis when he's either talking about the creative process or demon- strating it in his writing, and a few other posters shine from time to time. The rest is pretty much reruns of the same olde TM is the best thing in the world stuff vs. the TM sucks stuff. Meanwhile Maya laughs and radiates good vibes and we go on long walks with the dogs or do pleasant things. Or during the week I'm in Paris, taking long walks or sitting in my writing cafes and having fun with that or having fun just having a life. Even *work* is more pleasant these days than reading FFL. That's why it only takes me a few seconds to catch up after hours away from it, as I'm doing now. I've learned to ignore all but a handful of posters, and read only the ones who have established a track record of having something to say. So I think I'll sign off now, and not bother with any of the other spew posted since yesterday afternoon, when I last checked in. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Our little Dutch girl Already dressed in orange for the upcoming Queen's Day festivities. Vermeer would have killed to be able to paint her.
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@... To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chuck Norris Larger than Life
Oh please - I hope Zee Know doesn't read this because he will fucking send this through a word compactor - replace Chuck with Robin and re-post it. Very funny though :-) On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Features http://www.thehindu.com/features/ » Sunday Magazinehttp://www.thehindu.com/features/magazine/ Sir Chuck Norris ANANTHA NARAYAN It all began in the summer of 2005, when Ian Spector invited people to make up their own fun facts about Chuck Norris for a humour section in his website. Overnight the satirical factoids became e-mail forwards and thus was born the god of all gods. From a B-grade action movie star, Chuck Norris became the omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent superhero who could do no wrong. Every aspect of his deadpan persona became grist for some rip roaring hyperboles. Here's a selection of the sparklers that was later recycled as 'original' Rajnikant and Sir Jadeja jokes. Chuck Norris can strangle you with a cordless phone. Violence is an integral part of the Texas Ranger's charm. Naturally, fans tripped over one another to compose hosannas around his fear factor. That's how 'Chuck Norris can hit you so hard, your blood will bleed', 'He doesn’t shower, he only takes blood baths', 'He can make a happy meal cry' kind of bombast came into being. The impossibility of taking a panga with Chuck was best captured by this punch line: 'Once a cobra bit his leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.' Chuck Norris can speak Braille. To create a megastar aura, the protagonist must breach the wall of credulity. Chuck Norris, by definition being larger than larger-than-life, was credited with absurdly jaw-dropping feats to bolster the image of The Amazing One. Which is why we get to hear of accomplishments like: Chuck Norris can delete the recycle bin, 'He can make the onions cry', 'He can play the violin with a piano', 'He can kill two stones with one bird' and 'He can squeeze orange juice out of a lemon'! Chuck Norris' blood type is AK-47. Fearlessness is another key element in myth making. Jokesters of the Chuck cult did their bit to perpetuate this misimpression. The story goes that when young Chuck Norris was in middle school his English teacher asked him to pen an essay on 'What is Courage?' The little boy thought for a nanosecond, scribbled only his name on the blank answer sheet and submitted that as his piece. The gobsmacked teacher gave him an A+. Chuck Norris runs on his treadmill until the treadmill gets tired. Incredible physical deeds offer one more valve for generating laughs. Stuff such as 'Chuck Norris beat the sun in a staring contest', 'He once climbed Mt. Everest in 15 minutes, 14 of which was spent on building a snowman at the bottom', and 'Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth and boils the water with his own rage' provide clues as to why 'Superman wears the Chuck Norris suit'. Chuck Norris is the only person that can punch a Cyclops between the eye. Chuck is an icon among nerds as he offers the perfect algorithm for expressing cerebral wit. So, be it the chemistry laden Chuck Norris doesn’t recognise the periodic table, because the only element he recognises is the element of surprise or the biological 'Oxygen requires Chuck Norris to live', or even the very mathematical 'Chuck Norris counted to infinity, twice', the geek always has the last laugh. Chuck Norris doesn't flush the toilet. He scares the s**t out of it. Word play is on steroids when the subject is Mr. Norris. 'The only reason Thor is the god of lightning is because Chuck Norris stole his thunder' and 'His daughter lost her virginity, he got it back' are some samplers that go to prove the adage that 'Chuck can inject some fun even into a funeral'. --
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin Powers. LOL! That's what happens when you cross a figment of your imagination with a hair up your inadequate, victimized ass...you get ripped a new one. It's a bloody mess-acre. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down - one's stuff ripped open forcefully one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years old? Or is it some fear of death? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Yay!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway.Ã Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils.Ã No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them!Ã Psychologically raped!Ã Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin Powers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down - one's stuff ripped open forcefully one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years old? Or is it some fear of death? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Yay!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Perhaps a deep seated fear that Robin will hold FFL hostage...for ONE...MILLION...DOLLARS!! I'm taking the book deal: Titled, Against Our Will? No Fucking Way! - How a courageous band of misfits turned the tables on the power structure at FFL, and lived to tell about it, unscathed, except for the one who got grounded by his mom. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin Powers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down - one's stuff ripped open forcefully one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years old? Or is it some fear of death? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Yay!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway.Ãâ Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils.Ãâ No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them!Ãâ Psychologically raped!Ãâ Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice celibacy. If the Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of consciousness fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. --- doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! --- Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Polly wanna cracker? Jai Guru Dev -- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice celibacy. If the Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of consciousness fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. --- doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! --- Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! Curiously, if you believe that yogic flying is a type of levitation you *have* denied his theory of relativity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Personally? I don't know why, or if, anyone would want to do so-called yogic flying, by itself. Certainly not an efficient mode of transportation, is it? Also, I remember one of the first reports I heard about it, in 1978, prior to practicing the TMSP myself, was that crows nearby were laughing at those practicing the so-called yogic flying. We celebrated my son-in-law's birthday yesterday, and the icing would not have been nearly as good, without the cake. Same thing with the commonly called flying technique. It gets a lot of attention, but is really the last in a series of integral steps, designed to do a lot of other stuff, too. I have not practiced the TMSP since 1995 or so, though may do again at some point. As for the theory of relativity countering any levitation that may occur during the so-called yogic flying technique, who knows? I don't think anyone knows the answer to that, assuming levitation does take place. Not that big a deal to me, one way or the other. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! Curiously, if you believe that yogic flying is a type of levitation you *have* denied his theory of relativity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Perhaps a deep seated fear that Robin will hold FFL hostage...for ONE...MILLION...DOLLARS!! I'm taking the book deal: Titled, Against Our Will? No Fucking Way! - How a courageous band of misfits turned the tables on the power structure at FFL, and lived to tell about it, unscathed, except for the one who got grounded by his mom. The mollusk clam-up ever so comical Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical But the share of his lunch Was ate by a bunch Of wags making fun of his barnacles --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin Powers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down - one's stuff ripped open forcefully one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years old? Or is it some fear of death? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Yay!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway.Ãâ Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils.Ãâ No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them!Ãâ Psychologically raped!Ãâ Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. So simple and clear. Putting a template that this is perspective from CC, and therefore lacking in some way, seems strange to me, at the least.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. Your natural resting position as a clam, may be closed. For others the resting point may be open, which means that something you thought might be nourishment can get in a little more easily. Then it may turn out to be something else. And this statement here: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this as well as anyone. I think her term psychological rape has been blown totally out of proportion. I don't see her letting anyone mess with her. I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use that analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most. And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except that you might on occassion be misunderstood.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Ravi, I'm afraid it is your revisionist posts that are always the fantasy. This is well documented. But I get it that it makes you feel better when you after the fact can claim that none of it is what you meant to say, and that this is the way it is. The problem is, that no one believes it, even when you scream it repeatedly. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven different ways she may want to perform oral sex? Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. Your natural resting position as a clam, may be closed. For others the resting point may be open, which means that something you thought might be nourishment can get in a little more easily. Then it may turn out to be something else. And this statement here: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this as well as anyone. I think her term psychological rape has been blown totally out of proportion. I don't see her letting anyone mess with her. I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use that analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most. And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except that you might on occassion be misunderstood. I was reply to and referring to Zee Know. Geez, talk about misunderstanding. He's the one who started the whole stupid clam analogy and now you're frosting the clam cake. Let this be the last word on clams: The mollusk clam-up ever so comical Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical But the share of his lunch Was ate by a bunch Of wags making fun of clam's barnacles
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. But of course, as you so often say, the fault was all on my ex Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Sounds good to me. I'll take a Raunchy poem, or ditty anytime. Even a raunchy one. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. Your natural resting position as a clam, may be closed. For others the resting point may be open, which means that something you thought might be nourishment can get in a little more easily. Then it may turn out to be something else. And this statement here: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this as well as anyone. I think her term psychological rape has been blown totally out of proportion. I don't see her letting anyone mess with her. I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use that analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most. And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except that you might on occassion be misunderstood. I was reply to and referring to Zee Know. Geez, talk about misunderstanding. He's the one who started the whole stupid clam analogy and now you're frosting the clam cake. Let this be the last word on clams: The mollusk clam-up ever so comical Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical But the share of his lunch Was ate by a bunch Of wags making fun of clam's barnacles
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
Much appreciated Steve. I think that the distance the subject provides in time and culture does make it a useful tool for discussing hot topics and how to express our feelings about them. I am doing work in elementary schools on figurative language writing through the blues but don't have an outlet for a more advanced course. It is a part of my theater show. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Curtis, this is fascinating. Even just this bit I think would be a valuable part of a college curricula on black studies. Or certainly any study of the Blues. And especially how it must be adapted to current sensibilities. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: I appreciate that Emily as well as your response to Raunchy's post. Great art is provocative and this discussion has deepened my respect for the lyrics. I also think that your mentioning the cultural context IS key to understanding the intent of the author. I run into this decision often in singing songs from a different historical and cultural context. Just last night I sang Robert Johnson's Me and the Devil ( I am going to point our a verse but the content is not being directed toward you!) I love the song because it shows how bold Robert was about the concept of the devil which had many of his contemporaries cowered down in fear. Here it is and you will immediately see the problem for modern audiences: Early this mornin' when you knocked upon my door Early this mornin', ooh when you knocked upon my door And I said, Hello, Satan, I believe it's time to go. Me and the Devil was walkin' side by side Me and the Devil, ooh was walkin' side by side And I'm goin' to beat my woman until I get satisfied She say you don't see why that I will dog her 'round spoken: Now, babe, you know you ain't doin' me right, don'cha She say you don't see why, ooh that I will dog her 'round It must-a be that old evil spirit so deep down in the ground You may bury my body down by the highway side spoken: Baby, I don't care where you bury my body when I'm dead and gone You may bury my body, ooh down by the highway side So my old evil spirit can catch a Greyhound bus and ride For Robert this was a comedic song with the line I'm gunna beat my woman till I get satisfied pulling the biggest laugh from an audience that was more along the lines of Ralph Cramdon making a fist and saying one of these days Alice, straight to the moon. Today this is all over the top creepy, we know too much. But in Robert's day women beating men were also common. (It was a big problem for Charley Patton with Bertha Lee who was considerably bigger and stronger and usually less drunk.) So of course I can't explain all this as the audience turns on me for singing such a lyric so I change it to: I'm gunna do my woman till we both get satisfied to make sure that there is not misunderstanding even adding both. But here is the problem artistically. I wreck the song's comedic intention about the battle of the sexes and turn it into some kind of sexual bravado bragging. It wrecks the meaning of the next verses. She say you don't see why that I will dog her 'round Then he blames it on the devil: It must-a be that old evil spirit so deep down in the ground I can get a laugh out of a modern audience here by saying that he is blaming his bad behavior on the devil but I don't think that worked any better back then as it does today. This restores some of the original snarky intention of the lyrics that I stepped on my making it more politically correct. More trouble in bluesman city: Big fat woman lyrics and the even worse, black skinned woman who shouldn't put a hand on me, while a brown skinned woman is something fit to eat. (Yes shade racism is still common today in the black community.) So I drop all the fat woman references (even though in the songs it is a compliment) and they become a big legged woman, which is more clearly complimentary, and turn the color discrimination into different cities. (A Leland woman, something fit to eat, but you Memphis women,don't put your hands on me.) It still retains some of the character of the original with the benefit of not having Sam Adams bottles bounced off my head. (I play in yuppie joints.) It is all part of trying to be socially conscious while trying to preserve this poetry. Most of these lines are a distraction to the song's more general meanings, so I don't want the audience's focus by reaction to keep them from appreciating the music. And then there is all the sex stuff where metaphors are not metaphorical enough that I have to shift for the schools shows. You can squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg rarely makes it into any show before midnight after the booze has flowed freely. It is too much
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. Ann, I do apologize if facts don't suit your fancy. And I do apologize if Ravi has made an utter fool of himself on many occasions. He even admits so himself. But try not coming off looking like a total hypocrite. We are accountable for what write here. And if we don't wish to be held accountable, well, then, just don't post here. But you just can't have it both ways.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
Much appreciated Steve. I think that the distance the subject provides in time and culture does make it a useful tool for discussing hot topics and how to express our feelings about them. I am doing work in elementary schools on figurative language writing through the blues, but don't have an outlet for a more advanced course. It is a part of my theater show. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Curtis, this is fascinating. Even just this bit I think would be a valuable part of a college curricula on black studies. Or certainly any study of the Blues. And especially how it must be adapted to current sensibilities. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: I appreciate that Emily as well as your response to Raunchy's post. Great art is provocative and this discussion has deepened my respect for the lyrics. I also think that your mentioning the cultural context IS key to understanding the intent of the author. I run into this decision often in singing songs from a different historical and cultural context. Just last night I sang Robert Johnson's Me and the Devil ( I am going to point our a verse but the content is not being directed toward you!) I love the song because it shows how bold Robert was about the concept of the devil which had many of his contemporaries cowered down in fear. Here it is and you will immediately see the problem for modern audiences: Early this mornin' when you knocked upon my door Early this mornin', ooh when you knocked upon my door And I said, Hello, Satan, I believe it's time to go. Me and the Devil was walkin' side by side Me and the Devil, ooh was walkin' side by side And I'm goin' to beat my woman until I get satisfied She say you don't see why that I will dog her 'round spoken: Now, babe, you know you ain't doin' me right, don'cha She say you don't see why, ooh that I will dog her 'round It must-a be that old evil spirit so deep down in the ground You may bury my body down by the highway side spoken: Baby, I don't care where you bury my body when I'm dead and gone You may bury my body, ooh down by the highway side So my old evil spirit can catch a Greyhound bus and ride For Robert this was a comedic song with the line I'm gunna beat my woman till I get satisfied pulling the biggest laugh from an audience that was more along the lines of Ralph Cramdon making a fist and saying one of these days Alice, straight to the moon. Today this is all over the top creepy, we know too much. But in Robert's day women beating men were also common. (It was a big problem for Charley Patton with Bertha Lee who was considerably bigger and stronger and usually less drunk.) So of course I can't explain all this as the audience turns on me for singing such a lyric so I change it to: I'm gunna do my woman till we both get satisfied to make sure that there is not misunderstanding even adding both. But here is the problem artistically. I wreck the song's comedic intention about the battle of the sexes and turn it into some kind of sexual bravado bragging. It wrecks the meaning of the next verses. She say you don't see why that I will dog her 'round Then he blames it on the devil: It must-a be that old evil spirit so deep down in the ground I can get a laugh out of a modern audience here by saying that he is blaming his bad behavior on the devil but I don't think that worked any better back then as it does today. This restores some of the original snarky intention of the lyrics that I stepped on my making it more politically correct. More trouble in bluesman city: Big fat woman lyrics and the even worse, black skinned woman who shouldn't put a hand on me, while a brown skinned woman is something fit to eat. (Yes shade racism is still common today in the black community.) So I drop all the fat woman references (even though in the songs it is a compliment) and they become a big legged woman, which is more clearly complimentary, and turn the color discrimination into different cities. (A Leland woman, something fit to eat, but you Memphis women,don't put your hands on me.) It still retains some of the character of the original with the benefit of not having Sam Adams bottles bounced off my head. (I play in yuppie joints.) It is all part of trying to be socially conscious while trying to preserve this poetry. Most of these lines are a distraction to the song's more general meanings, so I don't want the audience's focus by reaction to keep them from appreciating the music. And then there is all the sex stuff where metaphors are not metaphorical enough that I have to shift for the schools shows. You can squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg rarely makes it into any show before midnight after the booze has flowed freely. It is too much
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Trolling for a blow job, Steve? Got nothing for you here. Hope you get lucky. You're more obnoxious than getting a case of chiggers. Chiggers try to get under your skin, but at least they have the good sense to eventually die off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven different ways she may want to perform oral sex? Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: Trolling for a blow job, Steve? Got nothing for you here. Hope you get lucky. You're more obnoxious than getting a case of chiggers. Chiggers try to get under your skin, but at least they have the good sense to eventually die off. Look Raunchy, I know how you feel about that period, and I don't care to dredge it up myself. But if Ravi is going to carry on about how empathetic he is, about how much he loves women, and what an idiot I am to doubt him, then I am going to say something on my behalf. That's how it works here. So maybe on occasion you might want address comments of this nature that you just addressed to me, to Ravi, or even Judy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: In which Share is psychologically raped
Correction below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Here we go folks, this is the Psychological Rape of Share you've heard so much about. Obviously each of you will choose whether to read it or not, but I would suggest that if you *don't* read it, you are not in a position to comment on any of the current discussion about Share's psychological rape accusation, because the post below is what it has all been about. I've snipped the second part of the post because it's just more friendly conversation about other topics, but if you want to read that too, here it is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/post Sorry, bad link. Here's the right one: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319178
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my feelings on it. It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic, entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women, Spin? To what end? To protect the author of a song long dead? We are interpreting art Ravi. Even if you see the last scene as a rape it expresses none of the things you claim, it would simply just be a reporting of a tragedy. The writer isn't condoning the behavior, he is reporting what happened and we are left to decide what exactly IS happening. But all those value judgement you are Raunchy are projecting on the story are bogus IMO. I tried hard but it was hard for me to interpret the lyrics as anything but gang rape - I don't see, have never heard of any woman in any culture trying to get back at a man by sleeping with multiple men at the same time regardless of men's fantasies. And you are welcome to your interpretation and your naivete about some women. Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their heart-centeredness Some of them are actually very well spoken as well as clean. (sometimes) - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for a yuppie audience Uh oh I recognize this wind-up from Fox News... I will say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to have multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman. Hey Raunchy isn't it cute to hear Sean Hannity with an Indian accent? Completely adorable! BTW Ravi, which specific black people are you accusing of this behavior, or if you are accusing it in a more broad sense what percentage of black people do you think fall into this category of men who force their women to have more children for the welfare money while they are in prison? But don't sweat it, the umbridge committee wont touch this, you are completely safe here. So cute! Fine to be sexist, misogynistic as an artistic expression in music, movie for entertainment but surely not a prescription for a modern, liberal, sophisticated society. So art needs to be a prescription for society? Why are you imposing this idiotic standard on artistic expression? And how exactly would reporting on a scene of a gang rape be a form of misogyny? The guy describes the scene with one guy trying to tear his kingdom down through this act. You thought this might be useful in Curtis bashing just as Raunchy did (hey thanks for the sincere apology for your ridiculous nasty judgmental comments about me before you pulled your head out and got a clue what the discussion was about, c'est la vie, right? Ravi you really should stick to your drive by tourrettes trolling. The more you write the more the real you shows up. I love India and Hinduism but I will the first one to condemn it as a misogynistic culture, trust me it was no fun watching a woman struggle to raise kids all the while being taunted, abused by the narrow minded Hindu culture - why? Because she went against the society's norms and dared to have a boy friend - while it's OK for men to cheat secretly and indulge in all kinds of repressed, perverted sexual practices. On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:28 PM, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Raunchy, I think Curtis is correct in his interpretation, in terms of historical context and what the author of those lyrics was intending to communicate to his audience, at least that's how it hits me in the moment this morning. Ã The song lyrics contain, of course, a cultural element and there are many blues songs that speak to the black man loving his woman and how she done him wrong, etc., etc. Ã The black culture also brings a different attitude towards sexuality than our puritan caucasian one does and it speaks to that as well. Ã And in the black culture, it is true that the woman is in charge. Ã Smile. Ã Ã I hadn't followed this thread, so when I read the lyrics this morning, I had a visceral reaction of revulsion to what evoked an image of gang rape. I din't buy Curtis' GF's take that it was not rape but a woman in her power blowing off her husband and living a hedonistic fantasy. Your initial reaction that the lyrics were more sinister may have been similar to mine. I didn't take time to explain how I felt about the lyrics to Curtis, first because I didn't have the time and second, at
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
The TM Saha Nav translation used in the administration of the TM movement: Let us be together; Let us eat together; Let us be vital together; Let us be radiating truth; Radiating the light of life; Never shall we denounce anyone, Never entertain negativity. saha n#257;v avatu | saha nau bhunaktu | saha v#299;rya#7747; karav#257;vahai | tejasvi n#257;v adh#299;tam astu | m#257; vidvi#7779;#257;vahai | Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; I wish to submit in to the record for discussion a previous testimony given by FFL resident scholar and expert of Sanskrit transliteration, our distinguished elder meditating member and linguist from Finland. Mr. Moderator, please include for our larger consideration the record of the testimony given in FFL post number 302944 and its related replies on the topic of the correct translation of the Sanskrit of the Saha Nav hymn in to English. For our current review of the resolution please admit in to the record this link to the post by Cardemaister fra Finland about the more proper translation of the TM Saha Nav hymn: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302944 Most Respectfully, -Buck FFL, A Question for the forum: Are there any witnesses present as to the origin of the TM version of the Saha Nav hymn? When was the Saha Nav hymn first transliterated the way the TM movement uses it? Lurkers who are without their own exclusive membership with posting privileges are always free to contact and send their testimony to the FFL owner listed at the home page for FFL as a way of being included in FFL. Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir, A Point of order; there seems to be a discrepancy between the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn on the one hand and the TM movement's version which was created. We should need expert witness as to reconcile the evident difference to the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn and the origin of the TM version used by the TM movement for their purposes. Could witnesses come forward to testify as to the facts on the discrepancy? Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; Let us proceed now directly to the discussion of the Saha Nav resolution, The Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect, otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: Amen to this buck Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; I take this Amen of the distinguished elder meditator from Upstate of the Great State of New York as a second to the motion on the Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution. -Buck In a message dated 04/26/13 16:15:50 Eastern Daylight Time, Buck writes: FFL Moderators, List Owner, Friends; as a motion for consideration, I move we consider the adoption of the more correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn as: The Fairfieldlife (FFL) Resolution of Mutual Respect: Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; May It nourish us both together; May we work conjointly with great energy, May our study be vigorous and effective; May we not mutually dispute or may we not hate any. -Buck Friends, as a means to have constructive engagement with these nay-bobs of anti-meditation negativity here, In process first we need to enact a FFL resolution of mutual respect to have something in all our favor to rally around to enforce against the anti-meditators here. As a motion of consideration I hereby move the adoption of the The FFL Saha Nav Resolution. For top banner publication across the FFL homepage. -Buck I feel it is quite time to invoke emergency measures here to protect the integrity of FFL as a public and spiritual forum. Though I do not look for this position, but as it is now brought to us and if however brought and placed by a loyal Unified Field of FFL into a position of authority to wrought out the necessary positive change to FFL security I should willingly step forward and volunteer if drafted by the community to serve as a channel to help with this great task. I look to all your support with this great endeavor to make FFL a spiritually safe place once again. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. Ann, I do apologize if facts don't suit your fancy. And I do apologize if Ravi has made an utter fool of himself on many occasions. He even admits so himself. But try not coming off looking like a total hypocrite. We are accountable for what write here. And if we don't wish to be held accountable, well, then, just don't post here. But you just can't have it both ways. If you care to rewrite this it might make a modicum of sense. As it stands right now I can't make heads or tails of it as it either relates to me or what is going on re: what you and I and Ravi just posted. All you are doing is reacting blindly and nothing of what you say is either clear or relevant. It is not that I don't want to understand what you just wrote it is that I simply CAN'T figure it out. That is usually the result when someone writes something in a knee jerk fashion while foaming at the mouth.
[FairfieldLife] Francis Bennett and John Mark Stroud: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 04/28/2013
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. Your natural resting position as a clam, may be closed. For others the resting point may be open, which means that something you thought might be nourishment can get in a little more easily. Then it may turn out to be something else. And this statement here: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this as well as anyone. I think her term psychological rape has been blown totally out of proportion. I don't see her letting anyone mess with her. Sure you do, otherwise why all this posturing on your part? If you don't see her letting anyone mess with her why all this fuss from your side? And then how could she have possibly been psychologically raped? Riddle me that one Stevie. On second thought, don't. I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use that analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most. And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except that you might on occassion be misunderstood.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: If you care to rewrite this it might make a modicum of sense. As it stands right now I can't make heads or tails of it as it either relates to me or what is going on re: what you and I and Ravi just posted. All you are doing is reacting blindly and nothing of what you say is either clear or relevant. It is not that I don't want to understand what you just wrote it is that I simply CAN'T figure it out. That is usually the result when someone writes something in a knee jerk fashion while foaming at the mouth. Hey, you know what? Don't even worry about it. Ain't no big deal.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Xeno, I didn't mind being called a clam but since I'm pretty vocal I don't think it fits. So I'm now calling myself Seaturtle. Good God, look at the sodium count on these Twinkies! Hmmm, message from Universe for me to be saltier?! As for your saying: When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. Can't wait! Whoops, already happening ha ha! Your pithy replies to Judy made me laugh today. Ok, thanks and hope you have fun or whatever in your cave (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: XENO! I posted the news item about Twinkies making a comeback on Friday evening with your name in Subject line! Oh well... I missed that. I was in my cave writing. Then I watched a movie. I do not spend a lot of energy reading everything on FFL. You scooped me! Actually I preferred the Hostess chocolate cupcakes, you know, devil's food. When I ran across the article on Google news, having missed your post, I thought of you as I had used the Twinkie as an analogy concerning you. Hostess Twinkie Hostess Twinkie, 1 Twinkee Nutrition Facts Calories in Hostess Twinkie, 1 Twinkee Serving Size: 1 serving Amount Per Serving Calories 150.0 Total Fat 4.0 g Saturated Fat 2.0 g Polyunsaturated Fat 0.0 g Monounsaturated Fat 0.0 g Cholesterol 20.0 mg Sodium 220.0 mg Potassium 0.0 mg Total Carbohydrate 27.0 g Dietary Fiber 0.0 g Sugars 19.0 g Protein 1.0 g Vitamin A 0.0 % Vitamin B-12 0.0 % Vitamin B-6 0.0 % Vitamin C 0.0 % Vitamin D 0.0 % Vitamin E 0.0 % Calcium 0.0 % Copper 0.0 % Folate 0.0 % Iron 0.0 % Magnesium 0.0 % Manganese 0.0 % Niacin 0.0 % Pantothenic Acid 0.0 % Phosphorus 0.0 % Riboflavin 0.0 % Selenium 0.0 % Thiamin 0.0 % Zinc 0.0 % Nutrition Facts Calories in hostess cupcakes Serving Size: 1 serving Amount Per Serving Calories 170.0 Total Fat 6.0 g Saturated Fat 3.0 g Polyunsaturated Fat 0.0 g Monounsaturated Fat 0.0 g Cholesterol 5.0 mg Sodium 250.0 mg Potassium 0.0 mg Total Carbohydrate 30.0 g Dietary Fiber 1.0 g Sugars 21.0 g Protein 1.0 g Vitamin A 0.0 % Vitamin B-12 0.0 % Vitamin B-6 0.0 % Vitamin C 0.0 % Vitamin D 0.0 % Vitamin E 0.0 % Calcium 0.0 % Copper 0.0 % Folate 0.0 % Iron 0.0 % Magnesium 0.0 % Manganese 0.0 % Niacin 0.0 % Pantothenic Acid 0.0 % Phosphorus 0.0 % Riboflavin 0.0 % Selenium 0.0 % Thiamin 0.0 % Zinc 0.0 %
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape is impossible on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Thanks Judy, but I looked up the whole exchange, (below) and it appears much more involved than you have here. Very interesting, Steve. It appears that after reading that quote from Robin I posted for you, you realized it couldn't possibly have justified Share's psychological rape charge, so you figured you needed to see more of their interaction. You looked up the original post, but that didn't help; so you went on to look up one of the follow-ups. And you found something you thought might be the smoking gun that would vindicate Share: (Share wrote, back then:) Replying to the first Robin2 below: Robin, it sounds like you're saying that you sensed you were getting the real me and not my beliefs. But OTOH you were very likely wrong. Given this assessment of me by you, I'd prefer to suspend communication with you. Apologies if I've misunderstood and in that case, I hope we can work things out. Er, no, sorry, this actually puts her in a deeper hole. You need to do a *lot* more reading of what went on, Steve, before you have anything like a clear picture. Believe me, if there were anything I could do to get Share's current fans to go back and read every word Share and Robin have said to and about each other, I would do it, because then they would understand what the problem is with Share. Anyway, what Steve quotes is Share's *misunderstanding* of what Robin had written that I keep mentioning. Robin nearly went out of his gourd trying to explain to her what she'd gotten wrong, to no avail. It took him a while to even understand himself what she had misunderstood because it was so convoluted. The key phrase is from Robin's initial post, the parenthetical it is very likely I am wrong. Share's misunderstanding was SO tangled and nonsensical that it became clear that *she herself* didn't understand what she had been objecting to--because at different times she objected to *opposite interpretations* of that phrase without realizing she was doing so. I made a post about this back then, with quotes and links; it's here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/321880 (It's almost as if someone had told her what to say, but after she'd said it and then had to follow up on it, she got completely lost because she had never really grasped the reason for saying it in the first place.) Perhaps I will have time to examine further. Thanks again. You won't, of course. Leaving this in: Xeno posted a definition of psychological rape: Trashing is a particularly vicious form of character assassination which amounts to psychological rape. It is manipulative, dishonest, and excessive. It is occasionally disguised by the rhetoric of honest conflict, or covered up by denying that any disapproval exists at all. But it is not meant to resolve differences. It is done to disparage and destroy. I'm sure you can see how well that describes what Robin said to Share that I just quoted. (snip) I guess you don't have any comment on this part of my post: And you're aware by now, I'm sure, that her initial reaction to the interaction was that she was feeling a little grumpy from eating too much sugar, no problemo. And she apologized. Unless she was lying, of course. And boy, if she really had just experienced herself to have been psychologically raped, what a cool customer to apologize to her rapist for being grumpy, and then continue the lighthearted conversation as if nothing had happened.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chuck Norris Larger than Life
Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM. On 04/28/2013 04:40 AM, Jason wrote: Features » Sunday Magazine Sir Chuck Norris ANANTHA NARAYAN It all began in the summer of 2005, when Ian Spector invited people to make up their own fun facts about Chuck Norris for a humour section in his website. Overnight the satirical factoids became e-mail forwards and thus was born the god of all gods. From a B-grade action movie star, Chuck Norris became the omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent superhero who could do no wrong. Every aspect of his deadpan persona became grist for some rip roaring hyperboles. Here's a selection of the sparklers that was later recycled as 'original' Rajnikant and Sir Jadeja jokes. Chuck Norris can strangle you with a cordless phone. Violence is an integral part of the Texas Ranger's charm. Naturally, fans tripped over one another to compose hosannas around his fear factor. That's how 'Chuck Norris can hit you so hard, your blood will bleed', 'He doesn’t shower, he only takes blood baths', 'He can make a happy meal cry' kind of bombast came into being. The impossibility of taking a panga with Chuck was best captured by this punch line: 'Once a cobra bit his leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.' Chuck Norris can speak Braille. To create a megastar aura, the protagonist must breach the wall of credulity. Chuck Norris, by definition being larger than larger-than-life, was credited with absurdly jaw-dropping feats to bolster the image of The Amazing One. Which is why we get to hear of accomplishments like: Chuck Norris can delete the recycle bin, 'He can make the onions cry', 'He can play the violin with a piano', 'He can kill two stones with one bird' and 'He can squeeze orange juice out of a lemon'! Chuck Norris' blood type is AK-47. Fearlessness is another key element in myth making. Jokesters of the Chuck cult did their bit to perpetuate this misimpression. The story goes that when young Chuck Norris was in middle school his English teacher asked him to pen an essay on 'What is Courage?' The little boy thought for a nanosecond, scribbled only his name on the blank answer sheet and submitted that as his piece. The gobsmacked teacher gave him an A+. Chuck Norris runs on his treadmill until the treadmill gets tired. Incredible physical deeds offer one more valve for generating laughs. Stuff such as 'Chuck Norris beat the sun in a staring contest', 'He once climbed Mt. Everest in 15 minutes, 14 of which was spent on building a snowman at the bottom', and 'Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth and boils the water with his own rage' provide clues as to why 'Superman wears the Chuck Norris suit'. Chuck Norris is the only person that can punch a Cyclops between the eye. Chuck is an icon among nerds as he offers the perfect algorithm for expressing cerebral wit. So, be it the chemistry laden Chuck Norris doesn’t recognise the periodic table, because the only element he recognises is the element of surprise or the biological 'Oxygen requires Chuck Norris to live', or even the very mathematical 'Chuck Norris counted to infinity, twice', the geek always has the last laugh. Chuck Norris doesn't flush the toilet. He scares the s**t out of it. Word play is on steroids when the subject is Mr. Norris. 'The only reason Thor is the god of lightning is because Chuck Norris stole his thunder' and 'His daughter lost her virginity, he got it back' are some samplers that go to prove the adage that 'Chuck can inject some fun even into a funeral'. --
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM. Not likely. Chuck is a fundie jeebus nutter, and The Nuge is either dead or in jail.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Ah ha ha ha. Dumbass, that is sooo funny. Raunchy - I love it when you wax poetic. Excellent. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Perhaps a deep seated fear that Robin will hold FFL hostage...for ONE...MILLION...DOLLARS!! I'm taking the book deal: Titled, Against Our Will? No Fucking Way! - How a courageous band of misfits turned the tables on the power structure at FFL, and lived to tell about it, unscathed, except for the one who got grounded by his mom. The mollusk clam-up ever so comical Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical But the share of his lunch Was ate by a bunch Of wags making fun of his barnacles --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin Powers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down - one's stuff ripped open forcefully one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years old? Or is it some fear of death? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Yay!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life
On 04/28/2013 09:19 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM. Not likely. Chuck is a fundie jeebus nutter, and The Nuge is either dead or in jail. Yeah, but the idea of them starting TM was funny. TM might give Nugent a better aim. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 04/28/2013 09:19 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM. Not likely. Chuck is a fundie jeebus nutter, and The Nuge is either dead or in jail. Yeah, but the idea of them starting TM was funny. TM might give Nugent a better aim. ;-) Even funnier would be them speaking in that soft, breathy way that hardcore Movement types do. In any event, we now return you to our regularly scheduled Psychological Brassica Napus.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Ok, I admit it! I admit it! I laughed at this, at all those p words. Keep up the good work ranting, raving, roaring, rambunctious, raucus, riddled and rapaciously ravenous Ravi! PS I only added rapaciously because Ravi once expressed disappointment that I've never accused him of psychological rape and what the heck, rapaciously kind of sounds like the R word. PS2 Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are mostly unable to laugh at themselves. And if they're not having fun, they don't want anyone else to have fun either! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Yes, you got it right Steve baby this is how I sometimes choose to respond to attention sluts (thanks Barry baby) who have nothing intelligent, honest, creative to say. Have something intelligent to say - I'm all ears baby. Did you read the post by Emily - beautiful isn't it? No Share Long-ish pathetic, phony, passive-aggressive, pitta-deranged, paranoid, platitude puking there. On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought. Since you always, pretty much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as you have been doing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life
Chuck Norris' high water mark was when he lent his likeness to the Blizzard games people to do television advertisements for World of Warcraft From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM. Not likely. Chuck is a fundie jeebus nutter, and The Nuge is either dead or in jail.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Chuck Norris' high water mark was when he lent his likeness to the Blizzard games people to do television advertisements for World of Warcraft This must be Nujo's finest hour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiYyHNgeFA8 Nice of them to let him out of the asylum to do gigs.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
This is several types of nonsense. A Maharishi is not a celibate person. The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly I have dropped the Bal Brahmarchari title because he never wanted to make it about himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all Mankind. You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way taken from somewhere else. Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and has kept themselves informed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice celibacy. If the Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of consciousness fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. --- doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! --- Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@... no_reply@... wrote: This is several types of nonsense. Thanks for the warning I shall read no further. We should all be so helpful. A Maharishi is not a celibate person. The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly I have dropped the Bal Brahmarchari title because he never wanted to make it about himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all Mankind. You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way taken from somewhere else. Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and has kept themselves informed.
[FairfieldLife] Getting Groovy at the Godless Church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNn-9hw2YCc
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@... To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Sure you do, otherwise why all this posturing on your part? If you don't see her letting anyone mess with her why all this fuss from your side? And then how could she have possibly been psychologically raped? Riddle me that one Stevie. Oops too late. Here how it works Ann. Fuck me once, shame on you. Fuck me twice, shame on me. Is that clear enough? On second thought, don't.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Well, I really couldn't let this one pass without comment. As Barry has stated a time or two, it never ceases to amaze how true believers will make excuses for the guru's bullshit no matter what they do. And as I have said it is because somewhere in the recesses of their minds they identify themselves with the enlightened state via their association with the guru and their fabulous teachings - in other words, if they accept that the guru is a flawed human being and even a criminal then their own self identity begins to crumble. I personally find it to be the height of arrogance to believe that Marshy was head and shoulders above any and all other spiritual teachers, including the ones from India. The flaw in your premise srijau, is that you believe that Marshy was enlightened - can't blame Marshy for that since to my knowledge he never said he was, blame that on everyone's gullibility and willingness to assume facts not in evidence. And to paraphrase your last statement, it should be apparent to any intelligent person who can think clearly that what Marshy gave the world was a good old fashioned screwing - I will give him this, he was the most successful con artist of the 20th century. And any intelligent person should be able to see from the governmental dysfunction that exists world wide and the carnage and destruction that exists worldwide militarily, economically and pollution-wise that TM and especially yogic flying have not done a damn thing to make the world better, unless you want to fall back on the ridiculous argument of Awww, no tellin' how bad off we would be if we hadn't had some TMSP all these years! From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth This is several types of nonsense. A Maharishi is not a celibate person. The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly I have dropped the Bal Brahmarchari title because he never wanted to make it about himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all Mankind. You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way taken from somewhere else. Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and has kept themselves informed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice celibacy. If the Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of consciousness fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. --- doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! --- Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM? From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@... To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
They're fine. What's wrong with them? What's with your desire to attack every TM person you can think of? Why do you have this obsession with condemning other people's behavior? What do you even know about their behavior? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM? From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth àDavid Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
Hilarious stuff Curtis - ever ready for your hypocritical, malicious, devious spin aren't you? First off it was should have been quite clear that I was allowing freedom for artistic expression yet not supporting it as a prescription, not supporting the incredible lengths you go to support derogatory references to women and gang-rape. What makes you spin me as an Indian Sean Hannity and not an artist - an Indian stand up? Why not allow for my artistic, provocative expression similar to how you defend artistic expressions of gang-rape and derogatory objectification of women? Why did your hypocritical ass not defend my attack on Indians? It's probably not in line with your racist, Hindu-bashing White ass is it? Remember Curtis baby - I can play your game better than you. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:44 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my feelings on it. It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic, entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women, Spin? To what end? To protect the author of a song long dead? We are interpreting art Ravi. Even if you see the last scene as a rape it expresses none of the things you claim, it would simply just be a reporting of a tragedy. The writer isn't condoning the behavior, he is reporting what happened and we are left to decide what exactly IS happening. But all those value judgement you are Raunchy are projecting on the story are bogus IMO. I tried hard but it was hard for me to interpret the lyrics as anything but gang rape - I don't see, have never heard of any woman in any culture trying to get back at a man by sleeping with multiple men at the same time regardless of men's fantasies. And you are welcome to your interpretation and your naivete about some women. Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their heart-centeredness Some of them are actually very well spoken as well as clean. (sometimes) - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for a yuppie audience Uh oh I recognize this wind-up from Fox News... I will say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to have multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman. Hey Raunchy isn't it cute to hear Sean Hannity with an Indian accent? Completely adorable! BTW Ravi, which specific black people are you accusing of this behavior, or if you are accusing it in a more broad sense what percentage of black people do you think fall into this category of men who force their women to have more children for the welfare money while they are in prison? But don't sweat it, the umbridge committee wont touch this, you are completely safe here. So cute! Fine to be sexist, misogynistic as an artistic expression in music, movie for entertainment but surely not a prescription for a modern, liberal, sophisticated society. So art needs to be a prescription for society? Why are you imposing this idiotic standard on artistic expression? And how exactly would reporting on a scene of a gang rape be a form of misogyny? The guy describes the scene with one guy trying to tear his kingdom down through this act. You thought this might be useful in Curtis bashing just as Raunchy did (hey thanks for the sincere apology for your ridiculous nasty judgmental comments about me before you pulled your head out and got a clue what the discussion was about, c'est la vie, right? Ravi you really should stick to your drive by tourrettes trolling. The more you write the more the real you shows up. I love India and Hinduism but I will the first one to condemn it as a misogynistic culture, trust me it was no fun watching a woman struggle to raise kids all the while being taunted, abused by the narrow minded Hindu culture - why? Because she went against the society's norms and dared to have a boy friend - while it's OK for men to cheat secretly and indulge in all kinds of repressed, perverted sexual practices. On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:28 PM, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Raunchy, I think Curtis is correct in his interpretation, in terms of historical context and what the author of those lyrics was intending to communicate to his audience, at least that's how it hits me in the moment this
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:43 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven different ways she may want to perform oral sex? Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and
[FairfieldLife] The Oneness of the Difference Part 4 [1 Attachment]
The Oneness of the Difference, Part 4 Reactive Mix by Shiva Kavi I went to my favorite coffee house today and heard the most enlightened waitress speaking to a transcendentalist who was greatly advanced in wisdom. Another friend of mine was also there, and we spoke about the tardiness of Spring this year, and of my transplanting wild fruit tree from the midst of my small forest to the visible edge, where we humans might enjoy their colorful flowers and tasty fruits. But since I do not know much about the appearance and nature of these trees, I am not yet ready to identify which I have transplanted: whether wild plum or cherry, walnut, hickory, or berry bush. Time will bring all things to death or to fruition, and then we shall taste the fruits, which wisdom admonishes us to offer first for the pleasure of the Lord, Who creates all things for our benefit, and Whose remembrance expands the pleasure and the bliss of existence. Two other friends, already mentioned, were present, one of whom I shall call Parama Dasi, the Supreme Waitress, and her companion, the learned transcendentalist, and they were talking at the table next to the one where I sat and spoke with my friend; and reminding him that he had work which he told me he needed to complete, we parted company, promising to meet again at Dalby Hall, at the Maharishi University of Management ( http://www.mum.edu/ www.MUM.edu) for the evening's lecture on levitation in various religious traditions. Shifting my attention to the conversation at the adjacent table, I intruded on a matter of mutual interest the specifics of which have escaped my Kali Yuga memory (the iron age or quarrel and hypocrisy is full of forgetfulness). I explained in other words what I have already set forth in the introduction to this work. Then we moved on to discuss another concern regarding the nature of tolerance and intolerance among various traditions. As an informal follower of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami and the Hare Krishna movement, I am feel deeply hurt and diminished by the policy in the meditation domes which excludes supporters of other gurus in other Vedic traditions from participating in the grant given to the Invincible America Assembly course. Supporters of other gurus are not allowed to receive this grant, and if anyone on the grant is caught organizing for Amma or Hare Krishna, or such, they could lose their dome badge. A follower of Western faiths, however, has no such restrictions. One can organize for Easter, Hanukah or Ramadan, but not for Amma's upcoming visit to Cedar Rapids, local Hare Krishna sankirtan, or other Vedic traditions connected with a charismatic leader other than the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I am empathic with this policy, but I desire some adjustment. The gentleman, whose name I don't recall, and which I have not asked permission to reveal, very politely and reasonably pointed out to me that the Maharishi has the right to maintain the purity of the experiment. I certainly can respect this point of view. The intention seems to be that only those who regard the the Maharishi and his presentation of Vedic understanding as supreme should participate in the grant. If someone is thinking that some other guru or Vedic understanding is equal to or greater than the understanding which the Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation reveal, his mind and physiology will vibrate differently than someone for whom they are All in All. That is a natural fact. I gave the example, from a layman's point of view, that if you have a plutonium reactor, you wouldn't want someone to introduce iron or Einsteinium without your knowledge, if at all. Unfortunately there are some serious problems with this policy of exclusion, as there always are in any great undertaking, and I am personally affected by them in a variety of ways. I want to point out at this time that I am a supporter and admirer of the Maharishi and TM. My wife is a siddha, and has been on the IA course. We have opened our home in Louisiana many times to local TM teachers for program and instruction. I was privileged to run for office for the Natural Law Party in Louisiana in 1996 and 2000, and did much background work and made several public appearances on the party's behalf. Only those who were very close to me knew that I was personally involved with the Hare Krishna movement, and I presented the NLP platform as it was, strictly from the presentations given on the Internet and at the forums I attended. But if my wife cooks for the Sunday Hare Krishna dinner I organize at my home here in Fairfield, IA, she is not eligible for the IA course grant. If she helps me by inviting guests, she is violating a published bylaw of dome behavior. Of course, I know that, since she is my wife, and we are both supportive of TM, that this will be accepted without challenge. But what if a friend on the course grant wants to help me? That presents a conflict which will throw up some red
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Wrong again in your attack on me. I do not attack every TM person I can think of - I don't the TM people here on this FFL, nor Oprah, nor Ellen D, nor Jerry Seinfeld nor Clint Eastwood - so your assertion is incorrect. Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has made makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it was given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women and grisly twisted crap. Stern - all you have to do is listen to his sexist racist crap to know what he spews over the airwaves, but I know you have to like their junk cuz they are TM people and we know that whatever TM people do is always good - not sure how that works out with people like the TM faculty member who was recently fired for trading sex for grades and money - but I am sure those gals who were on their backs knew something good was happening! From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth They're fine. What's wrong with them? What's with your desire to attack every TM person you can think of? Why do you have this obsession with condemning other people's behavior? What do you even know about their behavior? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM? From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Wrong again in your attack on me. I do not attack every TM person I can think of - I don't the TM people here on this FFL, nor Oprah, nor Ellen D, nor Jerry Seinfeld nor Clint Eastwood - so your assertion is incorrect. Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has made makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it was given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women and grisly twisted crap. Stern - all you have to do is listen to his sexist racist crap to know what he spews over the airwaves, but I know you have to like their junk cuz they are TM people and we know that whatever TM people do is always good - not sure how that works out with people like the TM faculty member who was recently fired for trading sex for grades and money - but I am sure those gals who were on their backs knew something good was happening! The only person on this forum who ever says this (whatever TM people do is always good) is you. So this is all a straw-man argument on your part. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  They're fine. What's wrong with them? What's with your desire to attack every TM person you can think of? Why do you have this obsession with condemning other people's behavior? What do you even know about their behavior? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM? From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth àRussell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth ÃâàDavid Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Starbucks is in trouble!
I just came back from my morning walk, hanging out at Starbucks patio chatting with friends then shopping the farmers market on the street in front. Bought a basket of very fresh local strawberries for $2. Ummm! Anyway I had noticed that the Safeway which is on the way back from my house had a Seattle's Best coffee kiosk set up but not yet running the other day. So on my way stopped got a small dark roast out of it for $1. Larges are $1.50. The roast is ground in the machine then brewed as a press coffee comparable to Starbucks quick Clover brew which is 90 cents more than a regular espresso there. Early summer day here with the highs in the 80s. This is why I moved to California.
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
And Girish is probably already looking at plans for his new palace. ;-) On 04/28/2013 04:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Clam Chowder
Archer-Alexander Cookware Recipes CLAM CHOWDER 4 cups samskaras (the clams) in shells 2 cups meditation 3 cups stock (boil nabuloss, doctordumbass, bhairitu, laughinggul08, raunchydog, seventhray27 and other similar ingredients in water until reduced to 1/3. Do not eliminate any of these ingredients or broth will be tepid and lack character. 1/2 cup maskedzebra (to loosen the clams and for intensifying the flavour of each clam, substitute for monosodium glutamate as nothing that is only mono, or one, functions with this ingredient) 1 cup minced sharelong60 (careful when prepping to avoid tears in eyes) 1 cup awoelflebater (for texture) 2 cups emilymae.reyn (for thickness and body, and texture with a touch of sweetness) 3/4 cup bleached, white anartaxius (nondescript, flavourless thickener, also a substitute for Valium if stressed while cooking) 1/2 cup wayback71 for smoothness. 1/4 tsp raviyogi (substitute for cayenne pepper) 1 oz authfriend (for tartness, replaces vinegar) 2 tbs curtisdeltablues (to fry and keep ingredients from sticking in a particular context in the pot) --- 1. Soak samskaras in maskezebra until free of shells. Discard any unsuitable ones, perhaps all. 2. Fry sharelong60 and awoelflebater in curtisdeltablues over turquoiseb at high heat. 3. Stir in anartaxius to distribute evenly, add the juice from the sanskaras, add emilymae.reyn, raviyogi, and authfriend (use the last two sparingly or soup will be unpalitable, but do not leave out. 4. Add the two cups meditation, and stir over turquoiseb at high heat until flash point. 5. Then reduce heat (turquoiseb will turn off automatically in most cases); wisk in the wayback71 and stir until smooth. 6. let simmer until the emilymae.reyn is tender but not too soft. 6. Add the samskaras if any remain and cook until firm. 7. If a touch of bitterness is desired, add a touch of mjackson74 before serving. 8. For a more traditional appearance, garnish with dhamiltony2k5, and watch your language when serving. Final appearance will be a thick white soup with dark patches of samskaras. If the samskaras are eaten first, the remaining product will be a uniform, white flowing liquid, with few lumps remaining except for a bit of crunch from the awoelflebater.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
Thank you dear Ann - yes you are absolutely right, she indeed , inadvertently became my Guru. In fact even though I spent a lot of time in Amma's cult I never formed any delusional fantasies on Amma as the Guru or the divine Mother. My crime, apparently was that I wanted to love my ex and was willing to do anything to understand her, to change myself so she could understand my love for her - which turned out to be a futile exercise - in terms of making her understand but a tremendous transformation in her. As I was telling my friend - 10 years after my marriage one day I realized I was a dramatically different person yet she remained as stunted as she was if not worse. It's a funny comparison with whole of Amma's cult - here everyone's trapped in a religious, delusional fantasy around her as the Guru, as the divine Mother and there I was, just trying to love my ex. I transcended whereas they all remain stunted. How ironical? Steve doesn't spend any effort and intelligence understanding the entire context of any given situation - his posts are just careless, reactive, frivolous posts and now he has really turned into an obnoxious,moronic troll. He always latches on to my posts, there's nothing much I can do make him stop acting like, as Barry would say, an attention vampire. He has gotten worse since he latched on to that phony, passive-aggressive Share and now he has to defend at her any cost - even if comes at the expense of his intelligence and integrity. Contrast his behavior with women here who unlike Share are mature, intelligent and strong. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. But of course, as you so often say, the fault was all on my ex Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth
Re: [FairfieldLife] Clam Chowder
Hilarious dear Xeno. This is where the human being Xeno comes through - a very rare glimpse (IMO - your only human posts have come in response to mine in the past). As Robin might say we get to see the real Xeno, severed from his philosophy, his platitudes, his pseudo-Eastern religious garbage. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Archer-Alexander Cookware Recipes CLAM CHOWDER 4 cups samskaras (the clams) in shells 2 cups meditation 3 cups stock (boil nabuloss, doctordumbass, bhairitu, laughinggul08, raunchydog, seventhray27 and other similar ingredients in water until reduced to 1/3. Do not eliminate any of these ingredients or broth will be tepid and lack character. 1/2 cup maskedzebra (to loosen the clams and for intensifying the flavour of each clam, substitute for monosodium glutamate as nothing that is only mono, or one, functions with this ingredient) 1 cup minced sharelong60 (careful when prepping to avoid tears in eyes) 1 cup awoelflebater (for texture) 2 cups emilymae.reyn (for thickness and body, and texture with a touch of sweetness) 3/4 cup bleached, white anartaxius (nondescript, flavourless thickener, also a substitute for Valium if stressed while cooking) 1/2 cup wayback71 for smoothness. 1/4 tsp raviyogi (substitute for cayenne pepper) 1 oz authfriend (for tartness, replaces vinegar) 2 tbs curtisdeltablues (to fry and keep ingredients from sticking in a particular context in the pot) --- 1. Soak samskaras in maskezebra until free of shells. Discard any unsuitable ones, perhaps all. 2. Fry sharelong60 and awoelflebater in curtisdeltablues over turquoiseb at high heat. 3. Stir in anartaxius to distribute evenly, add the juice from the sanskaras, add emilymae.reyn, raviyogi, and authfriend (use the last two sparingly or soup will be unpalitable, but do not leave out. 4. Add the two cups meditation, and stir over turquoiseb at high heat until flash point. 5. Then reduce heat (turquoiseb will turn off automatically in most cases); wisk in the wayback71 and stir until smooth. 6. let simmer until the emilymae.reyn is tender but not too soft. 6. Add the samskaras if any remain and cook until firm. 7. If a touch of bitterness is desired, add a touch of mjackson74 before serving. 8. For a more traditional appearance, garnish with dhamiltony2k5, and watch your language when serving. Final appearance will be a thick white soup with dark patches of samskaras. If the samskaras are eaten first, the remaining product will be a uniform, white flowing liquid, with few lumps remaining except for a bit of crunch from the awoelflebater.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, uh, wasn't a request Ravi. More a demand IIRC. Why don't you bring it up again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to you. clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors. We saw it again today. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of
[FairfieldLife] Free Man In Paris, v2.16
While I was on the train back to Paris this afternoon, zooming along at 300+ kph, the guy in the next seat glanced over at my laptop screen and asked what I was writing. Because he appeared in a talkative mood and I was feeling anything but, I replied, I'm not writing, I'm meditating. That worked. He shut up and went to sleep, and I continued meditating. The thing is, I wasn't entirely blowing him off. I *was* meditating, because I was in the middle of writing something creative. Creativity IS my favorite form of meditation these days. If this sounds strange to those who only think of meditation as something you can do in silence, with eyes closed, they either haven't been around the spiritual block very much or they don't have any creative ideas, or both. I still meditate the old way, but the form of meditation that gets me the highest these days is when I'm writing something that triggers the creative flow. The thing I was writing this afternoon filled that bill just fine, thank you. I had an idea for a short story while waiting for the train, and following advice given to me many years ago by Ray Bradbury, I was writing the idea down before it got away. Ray was right on with that advice. Creative ideas are like waves. You either catch them or you don't. Wait too long after the idea first hits you, and it's gone...you'll never be able to recapture the magic of it. So I was writing it down, surfing it for all it was worth, while the wave was still building. Later I can go back to it and, because I caught the original wave, I might be able to turn it into an interesting story. If I had waited until I got to Paris, I wouldn't have been able to. The idea would have lost its energy and its magic because the *flow* of it would no longer have been present. Some may claim that this process isn't really meditation, but I beg to differ with them. Getting out of the way and allowing the creative idea to flow is (for me) the same process as getting out of the way and allowing silence to flow. It's just that at the end of a regular meditation session, all you've got to show for it is a smile on your face. At the end of one of my writing meditation sessions, I've often got a smile on my face *and* a story that I can sell somewhere. Such a deal. I know that Curtis will get this, as perhaps will a few others here. Creativity is a real high. Those of us who spent many years on a spiritual path, especially those who became teachers, know well the high of taking ideas in from others and then parroting them out again. Even if all you are doing *is* parroting, there's a high to it. But it's a Whole Other High when the ideas are your own.,,
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Thank you dear Ann - yes you are absolutely right, she indeed , inadvertently became my Guru. In fact even though I spent a lot of time in Amma's cult I never formed any delusional fantasies on Amma as the Guru or the divine Mother. My crime, apparently was that I wanted to love my ex and was willing to do anything to understand her, to change myself so she could understand my love for her Now, was that before, or after you made her declare five times that you were to be her guru? - which turned out to be a futile exercise - in terms of making her understand but a tremendous transformation in her. As I was telling my friend - 10 years after my marriage one day I realized I was a dramatically different person yet she remained as stunted as she was if not worse. It's a funny comparison with whole of Amma's cult - here everyone's trapped in a religious, delusional fantasy around her as the Guru, as the divine Mother and there I was, just trying to love my ex. I transcended whereas they all remain stunted. How ironical? Steve doesn't spend any effort and intelligence understanding the entire context of any given situation - his posts are just careless, reactive, frivolous posts and now he has really turned into an obnoxious,moronic troll. He always latches on to my posts, there's nothing much I can do make him stop acting like, as Barry would say, an attention vampire. He has gotten worse since he latched on to that phony, passive-aggressive Share and now he has to defend at her any cost - even if comes at the expense of his intelligence and integrity. Contrast his behavior with women here who unlike Share are mature, intelligent and strong. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. But of course, as you so often say, the fault was all on my ex Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Oh what took so you so long dear Share - how pathetic, phony your laugh is - this is the only way you can handle the dissonance of your behavior and your perceived image of yours. Once again - considering your disabilities, making it super-easy for you. This response of yours displays which of the characteristics of the 5P's of the pristine, pure, Purtian philosophy of The Share Long Paradigm (SLP)? 1) Phony 2) Passive-aggressive 3) Paranoid 4) Pitta-derangement 5) Platitude-puke Love, Ravi On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Ok, I admit it! I admit it! I laughed at this, at all those p words. Keep up the good work ranting, raving, roaring, rambunctious, raucus, riddled and rapaciously ravenous Ravi! PS I only added rapaciously because Ravi once expressed disappointment that I've never accused him of psychological rape and what the heck, rapaciously kind of sounds like the R word. PS2 Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are mostly unable to laugh at themselves. And if they're not having fun, they don't want anyone else to have fun either! -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Yes, you got it right Steve baby this is how I sometimes choose to respond to attention sluts (thanks Barry baby) who have nothing intelligent, honest, creative to say. Have something intelligent to say - I'm all ears baby. Did you read the post by Emily - beautiful isn't it? No Share Long-ish pathetic, phony, passive-aggressive, pitta-deranged, paranoid, platitude puking there. On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought. Since you always, pretty much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as you have been doing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM? George Harrison, who only did TM for about a year, claimed chanting the Krishna mantra was the best thing he ever did and helped him achieve the highest spiritual heights he ever experienced, and even saved his life in preventing a plane crash (bit dubious about the last bit personally). Lennon, Jagger and most of the other class of '68 also took up Krishna chanting after TM, with varying degrees of hysteria. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth àDavid Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM? Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Once again the Ravimeter indicates when a direct hit has been scored. But who knew that it would be proven so fast. Share: PS2 Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are mostly unable to laugh at themselves. And if they're not having fun, they don't want anyone else to have fun either! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh what took so you so long dear Share - how pathetic, phony your laugh is - this is the only way you can handle the dissonance of your behavior and your perceived image of yours. Once again - considering your disabilities, making it super-easy for you. This response of yours displays which of the characteristics of the 5P's of the pristine, pure, Purtian philosophy of The Share Long Paradigm (SLP)? 1) Phony 2) Passive-aggressive 3) Paranoid 4) Pitta-derangement 5) Platitude-puke Love, Ravi On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: ** Ok, I admit it! I admit it! I laughed at this, at all those p words. Keep up the good work ranting, raving, roaring, rambunctious, raucus, riddled and rapaciously ravenous Ravi! PS I only added rapaciously because Ravi once expressed disappointment that I've never accused him of psychological rape and what the heck, rapaciously kind of sounds like the R word. PS2 Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are mostly unable to laugh at themselves. And if they're not having fun, they don't want anyone else to have fun either! -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Yes, you got it right Steve baby this is how I sometimes choose to respond to attention sluts (thanks Barry baby) who have nothing intelligent, honest, creative to say. Have something intelligent to say - I'm all ears baby. Did you read the post by Emily - beautiful isn't it? No Share Long-ish pathetic, phony, passive-aggressive, pitta-deranged, paranoid, platitude puking there. On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought. Since you always, pretty much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as you have been doing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, uh, wasn't a request Ravi. More a demand IIRC. Why don't you bring it up again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to you. clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors. We saw it again today. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has made makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it was given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women and grisly twisted crap. One must be a really sick and twisted soul to read this into the films of David Lynch. As others have suggested, you seriously need professional help. Long before I knew he did TM it was obvious to me that his films are about the human struggle for dignity in a mundane, violent and often depressing world. Often set in extreme situations his films capture in a very moving way the stuggle of individuals towards light, love and goodness. There is an invisible force that pulls men towards God - Maharishi Along with a few other masters of cinema Lynch visualize this process in a beautiful and touching way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
I believe the phrase you are looking for to describe your response to this and the previous posts I made regarding your behavior is, No Contest It's all good Rav. It's all good. We're all bozos on the bus. Someone is sure to befriend you and lead you in good directions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, uh, wasn't a request Ravi. More a demand IIRC. Why don't you bring it up again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to you. clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors. We saw it again today. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Whatever happened with good ole Girish, anyway? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: And Girish is probably already looking at plans for his new palace. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Free Man In Paris, v2.16
On 04/28/2013 01:32 PM, turquoiseb wrote: While I was on the train back to Paris this afternoon, zooming along at 300+ kph, the guy in the next seat glanced over at my laptop screen and asked what I was writing. Because he appeared in a talkative mood and I was feeling anything but, I replied, I'm not writing, I'm meditating. That worked. He shut up and went to sleep, and I continued meditating. The thing is, I wasn't entirely blowing him off. I *was* meditating, because I was in the middle of writing something creative. Creativity IS my favorite form of meditation these days. If this sounds strange to those who only think of meditation as something you can do in silence, with eyes closed, they either haven't been around the spiritual block very much or they don't have any creative ideas, or both. I still meditate the old way, but the form of meditation that gets me the highest these days is when I'm writing something that triggers the creative flow. The thing I was writing this afternoon filled that bill just fine, thank you. I had an idea for a short story while waiting for the train, and following advice given to me many years ago by Ray Bradbury, I was writing the idea down before it got away. Ray was right on with that advice. Creative ideas are like waves. You either catch them or you don't. Wait too long after the idea first hits you, and it's gone...you'll never be able to recapture the magic of it. So I was writing it down, surfing it for all it was worth, while the wave was still building. Later I can go back to it and, because I caught the original wave, I might be able to turn it into an interesting story. If I had waited until I got to Paris, I wouldn't have been able to. The idea would have lost its energy and its magic because the *flow* of it would no longer have been present. Some may claim that this process isn't really meditation, but I beg to differ with them. Getting out of the way and allowing the creative idea to flow is (for me) the same process as getting out of the way and allowing silence to flow. It's just that at the end of a regular meditation session, all you've got to show for it is a smile on your face. At the end of one of my writing meditation sessions, I've often got a smile on my face *and* a story that I can sell somewhere. Such a deal. I know that Curtis will get this, as perhaps will a few others here. Creativity is a real high. Those of us who spent many years on a spiritual path, especially those who became teachers, know well the high of taking ideas in from others and then parroting them out again. Even if all you are doing *is* parroting, there's a high to it. But it's a Whole Other High when the ideas are your own.,, Not to mention that some people (namely media executives) seem to think that one can turn on creativity just like one can turn a light off and on. People go through creative periods and through dry periods, know to writers as writer's block but not exclusive to writers but music composers and painters as well. A creative process once started can make hours fly by without notice. This even occurs with software development and I've always argued that good software developers would more like fine artists, in spurts, rather than in 9 to 5 hours.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
Curtis baby - I think your faux self-righteous cloaked ass masquerading highly questionable honesty, integrity of yours has trouble understanding the difference between creative, provocative, expressions and its applicability to a normal daily life in a modern context. I'm a patient man - take another shot at it. Read Raunchy's post again. I'm headed out but considering your disabilities I will definitely prepare a sample response on your behalf later. On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:29 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Hilarious stuff Curtis - ever ready for your hypocritical, malicious, devious spin aren't you? First off it was should have been quite clear that I was allowing freedom for artistic expression yet not supporting it as a prescription, not supporting the incredible lengths you go to support derogatory references to women and gang-rape. What part of the song represents a derogatory reference to woman and gang rape to you Ravi? Show me one line to support that interpretation. Even my first graders know that they have to support their POV with a detail from the text. Let's see if you can clear the first grade level bar for justifying your POV about the song. You have been mislead by watching Raunchy fly off the handle with her projections onto the characters in the lyrics haven't you? You really don't have anything in the actual words of the song to support this absurd accusation. What makes you spin me as an Indian Sean Hannity and not an artist - an Indian stand up? Well for one thing stand-up makes the audience laugh. If you were going for laughter doing schtick on what a republican asshole would say about black people you lacked a set-up as a minimum. So is that what you are claiming about your observations about black people and their food stamp lov'n, baby factory ways? Was it a joke? Why not allow for my artistic, provocative expression similar to how you defend artistic expressions of gang-rape and derogatory objectification of women? You are too confused about too many things here to straighten anything out. But again I give you the challenge to defend your accusations about the purpose and meaning of the song from actual words FROM the song. Why did your hypocritical ass not defend my attack on Indians? It's probably not in line with your racist, Hindu-bashing White ass is it? Why would I care how you think about Indians? I am not professionally preserving Indian culture, I am preserving an aspect of black culture. So your idiotic statements about black people are more interesting to me. Remember Curtis baby - I can play your game better than you. Ravi you haven't even cleared the bar of coherence, or the first grade level of supporting your POV about a work of fiction with examples from the text. Let's start there. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:44 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my feelings on it. It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic, entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women, Spin? To what end? To protect the author of a song long dead? We are interpreting art Ravi. Even if you see the last scene as a rape it expresses none of the things you claim, it would simply just be a reporting of a tragedy. The writer isn't condoning the behavior, he is reporting what happened and we are left to decide what exactly IS happening. But all those value judgement you are Raunchy are projecting on the story are bogus IMO. I tried hard but it was hard for me to interpret the lyrics as anything but gang rape - I don't see, have never heard of any woman in any culture trying to get back at a man by sleeping with multiple men at the same time regardless of men's fantasies. And you are welcome to your interpretation and your naivete about some women. Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their heart-centeredness Some of them are actually very well spoken as well as clean. (sometimes) - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for a yuppie audience Uh oh I recognize this wind-up from Fox News... I will say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing
[FairfieldLife] Re: Starbucks is in trouble!
The main reason Sbucks is in trouble is that young people think it's where gramps goes to get a cup o' joe. The current trend is privately-owned, coffee shops with free super fast wifi - which is a probably good thing. Most don't seem to really care what the coffee tastes like as long as the joint is unique and all four genders are equally represented (gay, straight, mixed, neutral.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Well said! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@... no_reply@... wrote: This is several types of nonsense. A Maharishi is not a celibate person. The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly I have dropped the Bal Brahmarchari title because he never wanted to make it about himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all Mankind. You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way taken from somewhere else. Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and has kept themselves informed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice celibacy. If the Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of consciousness fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. --- doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! --- Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Thanks Em. Hoping to sell film rights from the outset, I decided our heroes *must* be the always reliable, courageous band of misfits... - lol. RD, Love the limerick!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Ah ha ha ha.  Dumbass, that is sooo funny.  Raunchy - I love it when you wax poetic.  Excellent.  From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Perhaps a deep seated fear that Robin will hold FFL hostage...for ONE...MILLION...DOLLARS!! I'm taking the book deal: Titled, Against Our Will? No Fucking Way! - How a courageous band of misfits turned the tables on the power structure at FFL, and lived to tell about it, unscathed, except for the one who got grounded by his mom. The mollusk clam-up ever so comical Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical But the share of his lunch Was ate by a bunch Of wags making fun of his barnacles --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin Powers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down - one's stuff ripped open forcefully one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years old? Or is it some fear of death? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Yay!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway.ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils.ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them!ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ Psychologically raped!ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
That's what I thought, you have not text support for you idiotic accusations about the song. More tourettes trolling. Hey let's get Judy to defend your position on black people's food stamp lov'n, baby making ways based on your ideas about creative evocative expressions. I'd like to know how it magically takes the racist views RIGHT off! Are you up for explaining Ravi's point Judy? He has already deferred to Raunchy on the song so maybe you can be his spokesperson for this: Ravi being his adorable self, the l'll scamp! I will say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to have multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman. I think it could use some of that much touted special brand of honesty you talk so much about. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Curtis baby - I think your faux self-righteous cloaked ass masquerading highly questionable honesty, integrity of yours has trouble understanding the difference between creative, provocative, expressions and its applicability to a normal daily life in a modern context. I'm a patient man - take another shot at it. Read Raunchy's post again. I'm headed out but considering your disabilities I will definitely prepare a sample response on your behalf later. On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:29 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious stuff Curtis - ever ready for your hypocritical, malicious, devious spin aren't you? First off it was should have been quite clear that I was allowing freedom for artistic expression yet not supporting it as a prescription, not supporting the incredible lengths you go to support derogatory references to women and gang-rape. What part of the song represents a derogatory reference to woman and gang rape to you Ravi? Show me one line to support that interpretation. Even my first graders know that they have to support their POV with a detail from the text. Let's see if you can clear the first grade level bar for justifying your POV about the song. You have been mislead by watching Raunchy fly off the handle with her projections onto the characters in the lyrics haven't you? You really don't have anything in the actual words of the song to support this absurd accusation. What makes you spin me as an Indian Sean Hannity and not an artist - an Indian stand up? Well for one thing stand-up makes the audience laugh. If you were going for laughter doing schtick on what a republican asshole would say about black people you lacked a set-up as a minimum. So is that what you are claiming about your observations about black people and their food stamp lov'n, baby factory ways? Was it a joke? Why not allow for my artistic, provocative expression similar to how you defend artistic expressions of gang-rape and derogatory objectification of women? You are too confused about too many things here to straighten anything out. But again I give you the challenge to defend your accusations about the purpose and meaning of the song from actual words FROM the song. Why did your hypocritical ass not defend my attack on Indians? It's probably not in line with your racist, Hindu-bashing White ass is it? Why would I care how you think about Indians? I am not professionally preserving Indian culture, I am preserving an aspect of black culture. So your idiotic statements about black people are more interesting to me. Remember Curtis baby - I can play your game better than you. Ravi you haven't even cleared the bar of coherence, or the first grade level of supporting your POV about a work of fiction with examples from the text. Let's start there. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:44 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my feelings on it. It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic, entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women, Spin? To what end? To protect the author of a song long dead? We are interpreting art Ravi. Even if you see the last scene as a rape it expresses none of the things you claim, it would simply just be a reporting of a tragedy. The writer isn't condoning the behavior, he is reporting
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Oneness of the Difference Part 4
Shiva Kavi needs to recognize the domes are mission-specific. End of story. I have been in Fairfield before, and there is definitely an effect felt by any sensitive person, in the town, from all the meditation there. So the guy is not missing that much by not going to the domes. Its not really a civil rights issue either, since any private institution can have rules for membership. Sounds like Shiva K. wants a foot on each horse, but he is not that skillful a rider. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: The Oneness of the Difference, Part 4 Reactive Mix by Shiva Kavi I went to my favorite coffee house today and heard the most enlightened waitress speaking to a transcendentalist who was greatly advanced in wisdom. Another friend of mine was also there, and we spoke about the tardiness of Spring this year, and of my transplanting wild fruit tree from the midst of my small forest to the visible edge, where we humans might enjoy their colorful flowers and tasty fruits. But since I do not know much about the appearance and nature of these trees, I am not yet ready to identify which I have transplanted: whether wild plum or cherry, walnut, hickory, or berry bush. Time will bring all things to death or to fruition, and then we shall taste the fruits, which wisdom admonishes us to offer first for the pleasure of the Lord, Who creates all things for our benefit, and Whose remembrance expands the pleasure and the bliss of existence. Two other friends, already mentioned, were present, one of whom I shall call Parama Dasi, the Supreme Waitress, and her companion, the learned transcendentalist, and they were talking at the table next to the one where I sat and spoke with my friend; and reminding him that he had work which he told me he needed to complete, we parted company, promising to meet again at Dalby Hall, at the Maharishi University of Management ( http://www.mum.edu/ www.MUM.edu) for the evening's lecture on levitation in various religious traditions. Shifting my attention to the conversation at the adjacent table, I intruded on a matter of mutual interest the specifics of which have escaped my Kali Yuga memory (the iron age or quarrel and hypocrisy is full of forgetfulness). I explained in other words what I have already set forth in the introduction to this work. Then we moved on to discuss another concern regarding the nature of tolerance and intolerance among various traditions. As an informal follower of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami and the Hare Krishna movement, I am feel deeply hurt and diminished by the policy in the meditation domes which excludes supporters of other gurus in other Vedic traditions from participating in the grant given to the Invincible America Assembly course. Supporters of other gurus are not allowed to receive this grant, and if anyone on the grant is caught organizing for Amma or Hare Krishna, or such, they could lose their dome badge. A follower of Western faiths, however, has no such restrictions. One can organize for Easter, Hanukah or Ramadan, but not for Amma's upcoming visit to Cedar Rapids, local Hare Krishna sankirtan, or other Vedic traditions connected with a charismatic leader other than the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I am empathic with this policy, but I desire some adjustment. The gentleman, whose name I don't recall, and which I have not asked permission to reveal, very politely and reasonably pointed out to me that the Maharishi has the right to maintain the purity of the experiment. I certainly can respect this point of view. The intention seems to be that only those who regard the the Maharishi and his presentation of Vedic understanding as supreme should participate in the grant. If someone is thinking that some other guru or Vedic understanding is equal to or greater than the understanding which the Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation reveal, his mind and physiology will vibrate differently than someone for whom they are All in All. That is a natural fact. I gave the example, from a layman's point of view, that if you have a plutonium reactor, you wouldn't want someone to introduce iron or Einsteinium without your knowledge, if at all. Unfortunately there are some serious problems with this policy of exclusion, as there always are in any great undertaking, and I am personally affected by them in a variety of ways. I want to point out at this time that I am a supporter and admirer of the Maharishi and TM. My wife is a siddha, and has been on the IA course. We have opened our home in Louisiana many times to local TM teachers for program and instruction. I was privileged to run for office for the Natural Law Party in Louisiana in 1996 and 2000, and did much background work and made several public appearances on the party's behalf. Only those who were very close to me knew that I was personally involved with the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Starbucks is in trouble!
On 04/28/2013 03:07 PM, martyboi wrote: The main reason Sbucks is in trouble is that young people think it's where gramps goes to get a cup o' joe. The current trend is privately-owned, coffee shops with free super fast wifi - which is a probably good thing. Most don't seem to really care what the coffee tastes like as long as the joint is unique and all four genders are equally represented (gay, straight, mixed, neutral.) Independents fail if they don't have a consistently good grind. The independents here fail on that for the most part. One local shop did get roasts from company founded by Peet's founder but it closed. The bagel shop up the hill across from Starbucks just uses a blah restaurant supplier roast. Only Starbucks really has any decent place for folks to get together socially. And I wouldn't dare get a cup of coffee at the competitors and sit in the Starbuck's patio. For those who want to get drinks elsewhere the city did put in a couple of benches near the patio. As it is I bring my own eats since Starbuck's raised their bakery goods prices and made them smaller. As for wifi the downtown has city sponsored wifi which you can get anywhere downtown. Closer to the court house is an independent who will make you a press coffee with a good grind for $2. Except you may have to wait for it as they can only deal with one person at a time. Most of the time I fix my own espressos at home and use a Cuban grind that come ready for espresso in a 16 oz can for only $5.50. Going to Starbucks is really for socializing in an area where most people tend to keep to themselves.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM? I don't know when he started TM, but this is what he says (from a 2011 New York Times article about what he owes to it). It's a pretty strong endorsement: RUSSELL BRAND, the lanky British comedian, has made a career of his outrageous antics. While a host at MTV UK, he went to work dressed up as Osama bin Laden. At the network's annual music awards, he likened Britney Spears to a female Christ. And he was fired from the BBC after leaving raunchy messages on the voice mail of a 78-year-old actor, a comic bit that even his country's then-prime minister felt compelled to denounce. It is jarring then, to say the least, to hear Mr. Brand, 35, speaking passionately and sincerely about the emotional solace he has found in Transcendental Meditation, or TM. Yet there he was in December, onstage at the Metropolitan Museum of Art (as his new wife, the pop singer Katy Perry, waited backstage), describing how TM has helped him repair his psychic wounds. Transcendental Meditation has been incredibly valuable to me both in my recovery as a drug addict and in my personal life, my marriage, my professional life, Mr. Brand said of the technique that prescribes two 15- to 20-minute sessions a day of silently repeating a one-to-three syllable mantra, so that practitioners can access a state of what is known as transcendental consciousness. I literally had an idea drop into my brain the other day while I was meditating which I think is worth millions of dollars. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/fashion/20TM.html?_r=0 Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
I don't doubt that he finds TM beneficial in making maintaining sobriety nicer. But this is not how he kicked, that was years before. I was objecting to the idea that he owes his sobriety to TM. This is a pervasive problem with TM marketing hype IMO. I like my TM and think it is a nice resource. But it doesn't get people off smack, or more precisely, it didn't get Russel off it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM? I don't know when he started TM, but this is what he says (from a 2011 New York Times article about what he owes to it). It's a pretty strong endorsement: RUSSELL BRAND, the lanky British comedian, has made a career of his outrageous antics. While a host at MTV UK, he went to work dressed up as Osama bin Laden. At the network's annual music awards, he likened Britney Spears to a female Christ. And he was fired from the BBC after leaving raunchy messages on the voice mail of a 78-year-old actor, a comic bit that even his country's then-prime minister felt compelled to denounce. It is jarring then, to say the least, to hear Mr. Brand, 35, speaking passionately and sincerely about the emotional solace he has found in Transcendental Meditation, or TM. Yet there he was in December, onstage at the Metropolitan Museum of Art (as his new wife, the pop singer Katy Perry, waited backstage), describing how TM has helped him repair his psychic wounds. Transcendental Meditation has been incredibly valuable to me both in my recovery as a drug addict and in my personal life, my marriage, my professional life, Mr. Brand said of the technique that prescribes two 15- to 20-minute sessions a day of silently repeating a one-to-three syllable mantra, so that practitioners can access a state of what is known as transcendental consciousness. I literally had an idea drop into my brain the other day while I was meditating which I think is worth millions of dollars. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/fashion/20TM.html?_r=0 Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves Do we want our kids to turn out like these guys? and the answer would be a resounding NO! and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! From: merlin vedamerlin@ To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth  David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) to at-risk Youth __*___ http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape is impossible on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: You know, Curtis, it's amazing how much Share sounds like you sometimes, especially when she's talking about Robin, and about the folks who are trying (unsuccessfully) to keep her honest. I don't know what your point is here. More conspiracy theories no doubt. To your unasked question I answer: zero offline contact. We did share the focus of Robin's uninvited improvement sessions though, so perhaps we found it equally distasteful. Our interests couldn't be further apart aside from being the focus of ... WARNING: CONTEXT SHIFTING AHEAD. Your fairly constant references to honesty and your high value on it has taken the form of a tell. There is only one type of person who makes such constant references to something which the rest of us just take for granted in our dealings with people. You are the magician announcing to the audience that he is hold a normal deck of playing cards. It draws too much attention to the possibility of the gimmicked deck. Same with your constant story about your special relationship with honesty. You have played it too hard and now your audience views you with the suspicion of why is she trying sooo hard to sell this impression? I know why. Notice what Curtis has done here: He has shifted the context from the issue of dishonesty on Share's part that I and others have been pointing out to an implied accusation of his own: dishonesty on my part. What's that called when a magician does it, Curtis? Misdirection, I think. Let's shift the context back to where it was: There is a great deal of *actual evidence* of Share's dishonesty in her posts that she has been unwilling to address. (Not to mention that the same might be said of you, but let's leave that aside for now.) Where's the evidence of dishonesty in my posts, Curtis? When have I ever been unwilling to address accusations of dishonesty on the rare occasions when somebody has tried to make one? (I'm not sure she's ever gone *quite* so far as equating calling Robin a psychological rapist with having a non complimentary feeling about him. Maybe she'll start now, though.) When did she say that, was it within this calendar year? (See the attempted context-shift?) October 1, 2012, seven months ago. And she has reiterated it and defended it vigorously whenever it's been questioned. But at least she's never referred to it as having a non complimentary feeling about Robin. Curtis to Share: Your playfulness in the face of the barrage of ill-intentions and unfriendliness is your jiu-jitsu, your mojo, and ultimately your sanity preserver. Exactly. It keeps that ugly, ill-intentioned, unfriendly ol' reality at bay so she doesn't have to deal with it and can remain safely and obliviously ensconced in her own comfortable Disn--er, ShareWorld with its population of colorful cartoon characters. Oh I get it, then all this constant badgering of her is due to your better grip on reality and you are just trying to help her then. CONTEXT SHIFT ALERT!!! (You may have noticed that I'm not the only one who holds this opinion of Share or who objects to her accusation. Oh, wait, I forgot, the others are all under my control and take a dim view of Share in hopes of a pat on the head from me. Everyone would just love Share and hate Robin if it weren't for me. Right, Curtis?) If my badgering helps her, that's all to the good. But my intention is get her to, in effect, unsay that accusation, to retract it, if not to apologize for it. And failing that, to make it clear to anyone who might happen to do a search for Robin Carlsen that there is good reason to wonder whether the accusation had any substance to it, or whether it was an especially nasty, malicious, and potentially very damaging bit of slander. There is, in fact, considerable evidence for lack of substance, which leads one to wonder why it was made in the first place. I had it all wrong, I thought that you were just being Judy and running the Judy routine FOREVER about a comment she made about one hundred years ago. Seven months ago. Let me do my own context-shift here: Given Curtis's animus against Robin, it isn't exactly surprising that he would be supporting Share. After all, he was the first to introduce--publicly--the notion that Robin had been trying to violate Share's boundaries: Now I can also understand why Robin was so surprised. He only started to put in the lever and hadn't applied any pressure yet, but he got called out immediately. There's more to this intervention by Curtis on Share's behalf, but let's not introduce any more complications right now. Suffice it to say that either Curtis hadn't followed their exchange, or that he had but wanted to spin it in Share's favor, because the actual exchange-- the posts themselves--do not
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
FFL, Evidently this Is a more faithful to Sanskrit as corrected; the meditators' translation as proposed in the FFL Resolution of Mutual Respect otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution: Om ! May He protect us both together; may He nourish us both together; May we work conjointly with great energy, May our study be vigorous and effective; May we not mutually dispute (or may we not hate any). May He protect (avatu) us both (nau [~now] accusative *dual*) together (saha); may He nourish (bhunaktu) us both (nau) together (saha); May we work (karavaavahai) conjointly (saha) with great energy (viiryam), May our study be (adhiitam [study] astu [may (it) be]) vigorous-and-effective (tejasvi); May we not (maa: 'we' in the verb -) mutually-dispute (vidviSaavahai) or may we not hate any: vidviSaavahai. The TM Saha Nav translation used in the administration of the TM movement: Let us be together; Let us eat together; Let us be vital together; Let us be radiating truth; Radiating the light of life; Never shall we denounce anyone, Never entertain negativity. saha n#257;v avatu | saha nau bhunaktu | saha v#299;rya#7747; karav#257;vahai | tejasvi n#257;v adh#299;tam astu | m#257; vidvi#7779;#257;vahai | Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; I wish to submit in to the record for discussion a previous testimony given by FFL resident scholar and expert of Sanskrit transliteration, our distinguished elder meditating member and linguist from Finland. Mr. Moderator, please include for our larger consideration the record of the testimony given in FFL post number 302944 and its related replies on the topic of the correct translation of the Sanskrit of the Saha Nav hymn in to English. For our current review of the resolution please admit in to the record this link to the post by Cardemaister fra Finland about the more proper translation of the TM Saha Nav hymn: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302944 Most Respectfully, -Buck FFL, A Question for the forum: Are there any witnesses present as to the origin of the TM version of the Saha Nav hymn? When was the Saha Nav hymn first transliterated the way the TM movement uses it? Lurkers who are without their own exclusive membership with posting privileges are always free to contact and send their testimony to the FFL owner listed at the home page for FFL as a way of being included in FFL. Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir, A Point of order; there seems to be a discrepancy between the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn on the one hand and the TM movement's version which was created. We should need expert witness as to reconcile the evident difference to the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn and the origin of the TM version used by the TM movement for their purposes. Could witnesses come forward to testify as to the facts on the discrepancy? Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; Let us proceed now directly to the discussion of the Saha Nav resolution, The Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect, otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: Amen to this buck Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; I take this Amen of the distinguished elder meditator from Upstate of the Great State of New York as a second to the motion on the Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution. -Buck In a message dated 04/26/13 16:15:50 Eastern Daylight Time, Buck writes: FFL Moderators, List Owner, Friends; as a motion for consideration, I move we consider the adoption of the more correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn as: The Fairfieldlife (FFL) Resolution of Mutual Respect: Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; May It nourish us both together; May we work conjointly with great energy, May our study be vigorous and effective; May we not mutually dispute or may we not hate any. -Buck Friends, as a means to have constructive engagement with these nay-bobs of anti-meditation negativity here, In process first we need to enact a FFL resolution of mutual respect to have something in all our favor to rally around to enforce against the anti-meditators here. As a motion of consideration I
[FairfieldLife] Woman with doll
by Holly Wood
[FairfieldLife] Re: Woman with doll
http://artfangs.com/NewFiles/Painting56.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: by Holly Wood
