[FairfieldLife] KT: suutras with "easy" syntax, part 1

[card]

YS II 28: yogaan.gaanuSThaanaad ashuddhikSaye jñaanadiiptir aa
vivekajñaateH.
( yoga-an.ga-anuSThaanaat; ashuddhi-kSaye jñaana-diiptiH; aa
vivekajñaateH.)
Alistair Shearer's "TMish" translation:
The distinction between pure consciousness and the world is revealed by
the light
of knowledge, when the nervous system has been purified by the practice
of yoga.
"Sketchy" word-for-word :
yoga-limb-following-from impurity-destruction-in knowledge-radiance
till* discrimination-knowledge.
* This is one of the rare instances where a *genuine* preposition (aa =
till, etc.) appears in the YS!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > "Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. "
> >
> > I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over
> > backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway.
>
> You crack me up Ravi.  You fashion yourself as such a champion  of women
> in the virtual world.  Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world.  But
> of course, as you so often say, "the fault was all on my ex"
>

Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality -
virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was
my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as
stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a
fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I
say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my
ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her
delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well
except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one
of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I
will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind
you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn
empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said
courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to
learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was
my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light.

Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some
relief.


>
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have
> > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay
> > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the "gang rape"
> > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to
> showing
> > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have
> been
> > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was enjoying
> be
> > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is a
> humorous and
> > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree.
> > >
> > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect.
> > >
> > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden
> messages
> > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be
> > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume
> incorrectly
> > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no
> > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post
> back
> > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang rape"
> reminded
> > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and
> > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just
> riffin' -
> > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my
> tendency to
> > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth.
> > >
> > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do
> > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song
> and
> > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by
> > > you?
> > >
> > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum.
> > >
> > > --
> > > *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
> > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM
> > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it.
> > >
> > > It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation.
> > >
> > > But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and
> > > your posting intentions are unfriendly.
> > >
> > > You think you are "getting" a person Judy does not like and winning her
> > > approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow
> agenda.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy
> but
> > > this
> > > > one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking
> these
> > > > questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for
> even
> > > > trying to communicate that, viz "I have no idea why you write any of
> > > this"
> > > > - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy?
> > > >
> > > > Anyway here's one way I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[Ravi Chivukula]

Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive
posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be -
is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in?

Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my
complete attention to it, I promise.

Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence -
anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me
something Steve baby.



On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:54 AM, seventhray27 wrote:

> **
>
>
> like I said, "B" for boring.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Honesty is good. But I don't believe in the notions of karma and
> > reincarnation, unless karma meant actions we perform. But even then - I
> > think being in service of truth and being aligned with the existence's
> will
> > is what works for me - even if that means I am rude and insulting, I have
> > an extremely low tolerance for bullshit, purveyors of bullshit who think
> > they can peddle their bullshit unchallenged. My challenge this lifetime
> has
> > been to properly channel this anger, it would overwhelm me with
> confusion,
> > burden, guilt earlier but now I feed off it. I can now precisely target
> > these peddlers of bullshit without letting my anger overwhelm me.
> >
> > Anyway I digress - I don't think you or anyone else will reincarnate -
> > animal or not. I am actually in line with Christianity here - I'm too
> > narcissistic, Ravi has only been created once and will exist for the rest
> > of the eternity, I will not accept anything else unless I can come back
> as
> > a better me again and I will fight for it tooth and nail :-)
> >
> > But of course there is no proof of reincarnation of individuals, unless
> > reincarnation meant manifestations of consciousness, as in consciouness
> > incarnates again and again which then again implies there will be only
> one
> > Ravi and Emily - all this is subject to modification though - who fucking
> > knows.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife
> > > to consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't
> > > want to be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be
> > > fine, with a friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean
> how
> > > much closer to God might I get?)
> > >
> > > --
> > > *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
> > > *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM
> > >
> > > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR
> me?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up
> from
> > > you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch
> > > impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony
> > > behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss
> > > other person's feeling or deny that it even exists.
> > >
> > > Wow, good - thank you.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote:
> > >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > > Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I
> > > wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be
> helpful.
> > > But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is
> > > exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a
> pang
> > > of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation,
> > > offended someone.
> > >
> > > --
> > > *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
> > > *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM
> > >
> > > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR
> me?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!!
> Let's
> > > work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers
> > >
> > > So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should
> > > apologize? For what? I say thumbs down.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote:
> > >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > > Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how
> > > about that?
> > >
> > > --
> > > *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
> > > *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR
> me?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum.
> "
> > >
> > > I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our little Dutch girl

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> What a beautiful photo, turq. And what a quality of wonder 
> and radiance Maya has. Made my morning. Thank you.

Thanks to you (and Susan) for noticing the light in
the photo -- both ambient and inner. Maya's the reason
I don't mind at all commuting back to Leiden on the
weekends. 

Being able to spend time with her again has provided
an interesting counterpoint to Fairfield Life and the
depths to which it has sunk lately.

I mean, you've got one person who, in a total of 13 
hours of "posting time" (time between her first post 
of each day and her last) managed to spew 31 hate-posts
at everyone here. That's 2.38 hate-spews per hour. If
Rick hadn't implemented the Posting Limits, given an
eight-hour "work day" of spewing hatred, at this rate
we would be subjected to 133+ posts from her a week. 
As we *were* back in the Bad Old Days before he created 
the Posting Limits.

Then you've got those who continue to pile on to her
hate-posts to help her "get" the people she's obses-
sing on this week. That adds to the puddle of spew.

And then you've got people like yourself, Share, who
just won't allow shit like this to die, and keep 
trying to provoke more interactions with them, when
you *already know* how they'll turn out. I honestly
think you do it because getting negative attention 
is more important to you than getting no attention 
at all. 

Meanwhile intelligent conversation of any kind has
largely been forgotten, and is sorely missing. Xeno
provides a little light, as does Curtis when he's 
either talking about the creative process or demon-
strating it in his writing, and a few other posters 
shine from time to time. The rest is pretty much 
reruns of the same olde "TM is the best thing in the 
world" stuff vs. the "TM sucks" stuff.

Meanwhile Maya laughs and radiates good vibes and we
go on long walks with the dogs or do pleasant things.
Or during the week I'm in Paris, taking long walks or 
sitting in my "writing cafes" and having fun with that 
or having fun just having a life. Even *work* is more 
pleasant these days than reading FFL. That's why it 
only takes me a few seconds to "catch up" after hours 
away from it, as I'm doing now. I've learned to ignore 
all but a handful of posters, and read only the ones 
who have established a track record of having something 
to say. So I think I'll sign off now, and not bother 
with any of the other spew posted since yesterday
afternoon, when I last checked in. 

> 
>  From: turquoiseb 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:02 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Our little Dutch girl
>  
> Already dressed in orange for the upcoming Queen's Day festivities.
> 
> Vermeer would have killed to be able to paint her.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity

[Buck]

Meditation shall set you free,

> 
> Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir;  I wish to submit in to the record for 
> discussion a previous testimony given by FFL resident scholar and expert of 
> Sanskrit transliteration, our distinguished elder meditating member and 
> linguist from Finland.  
> Mr. Moderator, please include for our larger consideration the record of the 
> testimony given in FFL post number 302944 and its related replies on the 
> topic of the correct translation of the Sanskrit of the Saha Nav hymn in to 
> English.  For our current review of the resolution please admit in to the 
> record this link to the post by Cardemaister fra Finland about the more 
> proper translation of the TM Saha Nav hymn:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302944  
> Most Respectfully,
> -Buck
> 
> > 
> > FFL,  A Question for the forum: Are there any witnesses present as to the 
> > origin of the TM version of the Saha Nav hymn?  When was the Saha Nav hymn 
> > first transliterated the way the TM movement uses it?  Lurkers who are 
> > without their own exclusive membership with posting privileges are always 
> > free to contact and send their testimony to the FFL owner listed at the 
> > home page for FFL as a way of being included in FFL. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir, A Point of order; there seems to be a 
> > > discrepancy between the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav 
> > > hymn on the one hand and the TM movement's version which was created.  We 
> > > should need expert witness as to reconcile the evident difference to the 
> > > proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn and the origin of the 
> > > TM version used by the TM movement for their purposes.  Could witnesses 
> > > come forward to testify as to the facts on the discrepancy?
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; Let us proceed now directly to the 
> > > > discussion of the Saha Nav resolution, The Fairfieldlife Resolution of 
> > > > Mutual Respect, otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution.
> > > > -Buck
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Amen to this buck
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dear FFL,
> > > > > Mr. Moderator Sir; I take this "Amen" of the distinguished elder 
> > > > > meditator from Upstate of the Great State of New York as a second to 
> > > > > the motion on the Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect 
> > > > > otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution.
> > > > -Buck   
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In a message dated 04/26/13 16:15:50 Eastern Daylight Time, Buck 
> > > > > > writes:
> > > > > > FFL Moderators, List Owner, Friends; as a motion for consideration, 
> > > > > > I move we consider the adoption of the more correct translation of 
> > > > > > the Saha Nav hymn as: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Fairfieldlife (FFL) Resolution of Mutual Respect: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; 
> > > > > > May It nourish us both together; 
> > > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy, 
> > > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective; 
> > > > > > May we not mutually dispute or may we not hate any. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Friends, as a means to have constructive engagement with these 
> > > > > > > nay-bobs of anti-meditation negativity here, 
> > > > > > > In process first we need to enact a FFL resolution of mutual 
> > > > > > > respect 
> > > > > > > to have something in all our favor to rally around to enforce 
> > > > > > > against the anti-meditators here.  As a motion of consideration I 
> > > > > > > hereby move the adoption of the 
> > > > > > > The FFL Saha Nav Resolution. 
> > > > > > > For top banner publication across the FFL homepage. 
> > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I feel it is quite time to invoke emergency measures here to 
> > > > > > > > protect the integrity of FFL as a public and spiritual forum.  
> > > > > > > > Though I do not look for this position, but as it is now 
> > > > > > > > brought to us and if however brought and placed by a loyal 
> > > > > > > > Unified Field of FFL into a position of authority to wrought 
> > > > > > > > out the necessary positive change to FFL security I should 
> > > > > > > > willingly step forward and volunteer if drafted by the 
> > > > > > > > community to serve as a channel to help with this great task.  
> > > > > > > > I look to all your support with this great endeavor to make FFL 
> > > > > > > > a spiritually safe place once again.   
> > > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, considering TM as being under a general blog internet 
> > > > > > > > > attack here and its ongoi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity

[Buck]

saha nāv avatu | saha nau bhunaktu |
saha vīryaṃ karavāvahai | tejasvi nāv adhītam astu | 
mā vidviṣāvahai |
>
> 
> > 
> > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir;  I wish to submit in to the record for 
> > discussion a previous testimony given by FFL resident scholar and expert of 
> > Sanskrit transliteration, our distinguished elder meditating member and 
> > linguist from Finland.  
> > Mr. Moderator, please include for our larger consideration the record of 
> > the testimony given in FFL post number 302944 and its related replies on 
> > the topic of the correct translation of the Sanskrit of the Saha Nav hymn 
> > in to English.  For our current review of the resolution please admit in to 
> > the record this link to the post by Cardemaister fra Finland about the more 
> > proper translation of the TM Saha Nav hymn:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302944  
> > Most Respectfully,
> > -Buck
> > 
> > > 
> > > FFL,  A Question for the forum: Are there any witnesses present as to the 
> > > origin of the TM version of the Saha Nav hymn?  When was the Saha Nav 
> > > hymn first transliterated the way the TM movement uses it?  Lurkers who 
> > > are without their own exclusive membership with posting privileges are 
> > > always free to contact and send their testimony to the FFL owner listed 
> > > at the home page for FFL as a way of being included in FFL. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir, A Point of order; there seems to be a 
> > > > discrepancy between the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav 
> > > > hymn on the one hand and the TM movement's version which was created.  
> > > > We should need expert witness as to reconcile the evident difference to 
> > > > the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn and the origin 
> > > > of the TM version used by the TM movement for their purposes.  Could 
> > > > witnesses come forward to testify as to the facts on the discrepancy?
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; Let us proceed now directly to the 
> > > > > discussion of the Saha Nav resolution, The Fairfieldlife Resolution 
> > > > > of Mutual Respect, otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution.
> > > > > -Buck
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Amen to this buck
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Dear FFL,
> > > > > > Mr. Moderator Sir; I take this "Amen" of the distinguished elder 
> > > > > > meditator from Upstate of the Great State of New York as a second 
> > > > > > to the motion on the Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect 
> > > > > > otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution.
> > > > > -Buck   
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In a message dated 04/26/13 16:15:50 Eastern Daylight Time, Buck 
> > > > > > > writes:
> > > > > > > FFL Moderators, List Owner, Friends; as a motion for 
> > > > > > > consideration, I move we consider the adoption of the more 
> > > > > > > correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn as: 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The Fairfieldlife (FFL) Resolution of Mutual Respect: 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; 
> > > > > > > May It nourish us both together; 
> > > > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy, 
> > > > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective; 
> > > > > > > May we not mutually dispute or may we not hate any. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Friends, as a means to have constructive engagement with these 
> > > > > > > > nay-bobs of anti-meditation negativity here, 
> > > > > > > > In process first we need to enact a FFL resolution of mutual 
> > > > > > > > respect 
> > > > > > > > to have something in all our favor to rally around to enforce 
> > > > > > > > against the anti-meditators here.  As a motion of consideration 
> > > > > > > > I hereby move the adoption of the 
> > > > > > > > The FFL Saha Nav Resolution. 
> > > > > > > > For top banner publication across the FFL homepage. 
> > > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I feel it is quite time to invoke emergency measures here to 
> > > > > > > > > protect the integrity of FFL as a public and spiritual forum. 
> > > > > > > > >  Though I do not look for this position, but as it is now 
> > > > > > > > > brought to us and if however brought and placed by a loyal 
> > > > > > > > > Unified Field of FFL into a position of authority to wrought 
> > > > > > > > > out the necessary positive change to FFL security I should 
> > > > > > > > > willingly step forward and volunteer if drafted by the 
> > > > > > > > > community to serve as a channel to help with this great task. 
> > > > > > > > >  I look to all your support with this great end

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song

[Ravi Chivukula]

Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking
forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my feelings on
it.

It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic,
entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very
misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women, I tried hard but it was
hard for me to interpret the lyrics as anything but gang rape - I don't
see, have never heard of any woman in any culture trying to get back at a
man by sleeping with multiple men at the same time regardless of men's
fantasies.

Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their
heart-centeredness - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't
suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for a
yuppie audience I will say that most of the culture is very crude,
misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that
enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to have
multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass
languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman. Fine to be
sexist, misogynistic as an artistic expression in music, movie for
entertainment but surely not a prescription for a modern, liberal,
sophisticated society.

I love India and Hinduism but I will the first one to condemn it as a
misogynistic culture, trust me it was no fun watching a woman struggle to
raise kids all the while being taunted, abused by the narrow minded Hindu
culture  - why? Because she went against the society's norms and dared to
have a boy friend - while it's OK for men to cheat secretly and indulge in
all kinds of repressed, perverted sexual practices.



On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:28 PM, raunchydog  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
> wrote:
> >
> > Raunchy, I think Curtis is correct in his interpretation, in terms of
> historical context and what the author of those lyrics was intending to
> communicate to his audience, at least that's how it hits me in the moment
> this morning. Â The song lyrics contain, of course, a cultural element and
> there are many blues songs that speak to the black man loving his woman and
> how she "done him wrong", etc., etc. Â The black culture also brings a
> different attitude towards sexuality than our puritan caucasian one does
> and it speaks to that as well. Â And in the black culture, it is true that
> the woman is in charge. Â Smile. Â  Â
> >
>
> I hadn't followed this thread, so when I read the lyrics this morning, I
> had a visceral reaction of revulsion to what evoked an image of gang rape.
> I din't buy Curtis' GF's take that it was not rape but "a woman in her
> power blowing off her husband and living a hedonistic fantasy." Your
> initial reaction that the lyrics were more sinister may have been similar
> to mine. I didn't take time to explain how I felt about the lyrics to
> Curtis, first because I didn't have the time and second, at first blush I
> thought his retrospective was a tad self-serving. Perhaps I was wrong about
> Curtis' motivations as he claims. Regardless, it felt like spin to me, so
> c'est la vie.
>
> But now that you agree with Curtis' interpretation and added an attempted
> layer of understanding on black culture, I'll take a shot at explaining why
> I reacted to the lyrics as I did. True, the woman "done him wrong" but as I
> see it, in no culture does a woman consent to gang rape, ever, and
> certainly not just to piss off a cuckolded spouse. Further, I don't believe
> that black women are any more capable of owing their sexual power than
> white women, and seems rather stereotypical.
>
> No doubt the guy feels victimized wallowing in "poor me" as Curtis
> suggests, but no matter the cultural background, I don't believe the lyrics
> imply that the woman, vis a vis the man's property, was having consensual
> sex with a gang of men. I could be accused of putting my white girl
> judgement on the lyrics, but in this case, I think not.  So here's my
> interpretation:
>
>
> Oh you banjo roustabout
> When you goin to the shore
> I got a good gal on that other shore
> Baby don't you want to go
>
> RD: He wishes his woman could go with him but since she can't, he
> expresses a pang of guilt for cheating on her, "Oh you banjo roustabout,"
> says he, in slightly humorous self-deprecation, but, "Oh well, a man has
> needs and I'm just missing you, Baby."
>
>
> If I had an old pairs of wings
> Like Noah's dove
> I'd sail from pine to pine
> Looking for my own true love
>
> Indeed, he misses his woman. Noah's dove is a wonderful metaphor. He's on
> the sea without sight of shore for many days, and perhaps "pine" is a pun
> for longing.
>
>
> I'd a listened to what my momma said
> I wouldn't be here today
> But me being young and foolish too
> women lead me astray
>
> RD: He regrets he didn't listen to his momma telling him not to womanize
> but rather than take responsibility, h

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[merlin]

David Lynch and Russell Brand 
Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
to at-risk Youth

__*___

http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[doctordumbass]

Yay!!!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > 
> > > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's 
> > > analogy anyway.  Now imagine our little clam not only having an 
> > > evasively 
> > > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws 
> > > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy 
> > > tendrils.  No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of 
> > > them!  Psychologically raped!  Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived 
> > > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
> > 
> > I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in 
> > Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy 
> > about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it 
> > clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as 
> > meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more 
> > effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. 
> > When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre 
> > unaided by any external prod.
> >
> 
> No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff 
> forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre 
> before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: "I 
> am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it."
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[Ravi Chivukula]

I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down
- "one's stuff ripped open forcefully" "one's dark stuff will flow like
blood in a massacre" - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru
Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years
old? Or is it some fear of death?



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com <
no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Yay!!!
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of
> Xeno's
> > > > analogy anyway.  Now imagine our little clam not only having an
> evasively
> > > > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp
> claws
> > > > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy
> > > > tendrils.  No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of
> > > > them!  Psychologically raped!  Then a wonderful pod of dolphins
> arrived
> > > > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
> > >
> > > I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining
> anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised
> analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is
> attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why
> techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything
> tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped
> open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like
> blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
> > >
> >
> > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff
> forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre
> before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me:
> "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it."
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[doctordumbass]

Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin 
Powers.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down
> - "one's stuff ripped open forcefully" "one's dark stuff will flow like
> blood in a massacre" - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru
> Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years
> old? Or is it some fear of death?
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@... <
> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Yay!!!
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
> >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of
> > Xeno's
> > > > > analogy anyway.  Now imagine our little clam not only having an
> > evasively
> > > > > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp
> > claws
> > > > > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy
> > > > > tendrils.  No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of
> > > > > them!  Psychologically raped!  Then a wonderful pod of dolphins
> > arrived
> > > > > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
> > > >
> > > > I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining
> > anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised
> > analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is
> > attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why
> > techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything
> > tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped
> > open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like
> > blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
> > > >
> > >
> > > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff
> > forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre
> > before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me:
> > "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it."
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our little Dutch girl

[Michael Jackson]

Curious as to what kinds of dogs you have.




 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:37 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our little Dutch girl
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> What a beautiful photo, turq. And what a quality of wonder 
> and radiance Maya has. Made my morning. Thank you.

Thanks to you (and Susan) for noticing the light in
the photo -- both ambient and inner. Maya's the reason
I don't mind at all commuting back to Leiden on the
weekends. 

Being able to spend time with her again has provided
an interesting counterpoint to Fairfield Life and the
depths to which it has sunk lately.

I mean, you've got one person who, in a total of 13 
hours of "posting time" (time between her first post 
of each day and her last) managed to spew 31 hate-posts
at everyone here. That's 2.38 hate-spews per hour. If
Rick hadn't implemented the Posting Limits, given an
eight-hour "work day" of spewing hatred, at this rate
we would be subjected to 133+ posts from her a week. 
As we *were* back in the Bad Old Days before he created 
the Posting Limits.

Then you've got those who continue to pile on to her
hate-posts to help her "get" the people she's obses-
sing on this week. That adds to the puddle of spew.

And then you've got people like yourself, Share, who
just won't allow shit like this to die, and keep 
trying to provoke more interactions with them, when
you *already know* how they'll turn out. I honestly
think you do it because getting negative attention 
is more important to you than getting no attention 
at all. 

Meanwhile intelligent conversation of any kind has
largely been forgotten, and is sorely missing. Xeno
provides a little light, as does Curtis when he's 
either talking about the creative process or demon-
strating it in his writing, and a few other posters 
shine from time to time. The rest is pretty much 
reruns of the same olde "TM is the best thing in the 
world" stuff vs. the "TM sucks" stuff.

Meanwhile Maya laughs and radiates good vibes and we
go on long walks with the dogs or do pleasant things.
Or during the week I'm in Paris, taking long walks or 
sitting in my "writing cafes" and having fun with that 
or having fun just having a life. Even *work* is more 
pleasant these days than reading FFL. That's why it 
only takes me a few seconds to "catch up" after hours 
away from it, as I'm doing now. I've learned to ignore 
all but a handful of posters, and read only the ones 
who have established a track record of having something 
to say. So I think I'll sign off now, and not bother 
with any of the other spew posted since yesterday
afternoon, when I last checked in. 

> 
>  From: turquoiseb 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:02 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Our little Dutch girl
> 
> Already dressed in orange for the upcoming Queen's Day festivities.
> 
> Vermeer would have killed to be able to paint her.


 

[FairfieldLife] Chuck Norris Larger than Life

[Jason]

Features » Sunday Magazine 
 
 
Sir Chuck  Norris
ANANTHA NARAYAN

It all began in the summer of 2005, when Ian Spector invited 
people to make up their own fun facts about Chuck Norris for 
a humour section in his website. Overnight the satirical 
factoids became e-mail forwards and thus was born the god of 
all gods.

>From a B-grade action movie star, Chuck Norris became the 
omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent superhero who could 
do no wrong. Every aspect of his deadpan persona became 
grist for some rip roaring hyperboles. Here's a selection of 
the sparklers that was later recycled as 'original' 
Rajnikant and Sir Jadeja jokes.

"Chuck Norris can strangle you with a cordless phone."

Violence is an integral part of the Texas Ranger's charm. 
Naturally, fans tripped over one another to compose hosannas 
around his fear factor. That's how 'Chuck Norris can hit you 
so hard, your blood will bleed', 'He doesn’t shower, he only 
takes blood baths', 'He can make a happy meal cry' kind of 
bombast came into being. The impossibility of taking a panga 
with Chuck was best captured by this punch line: 'Once a 
cobra bit his leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the 
cobra died.'

"Chuck Norris can speak Braille."

To create a megastar aura, the protagonist must breach the 
wall of credulity. Chuck Norris, by definition being larger 
than larger-than-life, was credited with absurdly 
jaw-dropping feats to bolster the image of The Amazing One. 
Which is why we get to hear of accomplishments like: "Chuck 
Norris can delete the recycle bin", 'He can make the onions 
cry', 'He can play the violin with a piano', 'He can kill 
two stones with one bird' and 'He can squeeze orange juice 
out of a lemon'!

"Chuck Norris' blood type is AK-47."

Fearlessness is another key element in myth making. 
Jokesters of the Chuck cult did their bit to perpetuate this 
misimpression. The story goes that when young Chuck Norris 
was in middle school his English teacher asked him to pen an 
essay on 'What is Courage?' The little boy thought for a 
nanosecond, scribbled only his name on the blank answer 
sheet and submitted that as his piece. The gobsmacked 
teacher gave him an A+.

"Chuck Norris runs on his treadmill until the treadmill gets 
tired."

Incredible physical deeds offer one more valve for 
generating laughs. Stuff such as 'Chuck Norris beat the sun 
in a staring contest', 'He once climbed Mt. Everest in 15 
minutes, 14 of which was spent on building a snowman at the 
bottom', and 'Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth 
and boils the water with his own rage' provide clues as to 
why 'Superman wears the Chuck Norris suit'.

"Chuck Norris is the only person that can punch a Cyclops 
between the eye."

Chuck is an icon among nerds as he offers the perfect 
algorithm for expressing cerebral wit. So, be it the 
chemistry laden "Chuck Norris doesn’t recognise the periodic 
table, because the only element he recognises is the element 
of surprise" or the biological 'Oxygen requires Chuck Norris 
to live', or even the very mathematical 'Chuck Norris 
counted to infinity, twice', the geek always has the last 
laugh.

"Chuck Norris doesn't flush the toilet. He scares the s**t 
out of it."

Word play is on steroids when the subject is Mr. Norris. 
'The only reason Thor is the god of lightning is because 
Chuck Norris stole his thunder' and 'His daughter lost her 
virginity, he got it back' are some samplers that go to 
prove the adage that 'Chuck can inject some fun even into a 
funeral'.
 
--

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our little Dutch girl

[doctordumbass]

Children are a pure delight. Glad to see you are spending less time on here, or 
so you say. Will it translate to reality? Only time will tell, and one can only 
hope.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > What a beautiful photo, turq. And what a quality of wonder 
> > and radiance Maya has. Made my morning. Thank you.
> 
> Thanks to you (and Susan) for noticing the light in
> the photo -- both ambient and inner. Maya's the reason
> I don't mind at all commuting back to Leiden on the
> weekends. 
> 
> Being able to spend time with her again has provided
> an interesting counterpoint to Fairfield Life and the
> depths to which it has sunk lately.
> 
> I mean, you've got one person who, in a total of 13 
> hours of "posting time" (time between her first post 
> of each day and her last) managed to spew 31 hate-posts
> at everyone here. That's 2.38 hate-spews per hour. If
> Rick hadn't implemented the Posting Limits, given an
> eight-hour "work day" of spewing hatred, at this rate
> we would be subjected to 133+ posts from her a week. 
> As we *were* back in the Bad Old Days before he created 
> the Posting Limits.
> 
> Then you've got those who continue to pile on to her
> hate-posts to help her "get" the people she's obses-
> sing on this week. That adds to the puddle of spew.
> 
> And then you've got people like yourself, Share, who
> just won't allow shit like this to die, and keep 
> trying to provoke more interactions with them, when
> you *already know* how they'll turn out. I honestly
> think you do it because getting negative attention 
> is more important to you than getting no attention 
> at all. 
> 
> Meanwhile intelligent conversation of any kind has
> largely been forgotten, and is sorely missing. Xeno
> provides a little light, as does Curtis when he's 
> either talking about the creative process or demon-
> strating it in his writing, and a few other posters 
> shine from time to time. The rest is pretty much 
> reruns of the same olde "TM is the best thing in the 
> world" stuff vs. the "TM sucks" stuff.
> 
> Meanwhile Maya laughs and radiates good vibes and we
> go on long walks with the dogs or do pleasant things.
> Or during the week I'm in Paris, taking long walks or 
> sitting in my "writing cafes" and having fun with that 
> or having fun just having a life. Even *work* is more 
> pleasant these days than reading FFL. That's why it 
> only takes me a few seconds to "catch up" after hours 
> away from it, as I'm doing now. I've learned to ignore 
> all but a handful of posters, and read only the ones 
> who have established a track record of having something 
> to say. So I think I'll sign off now, and not bother 
> with any of the other spew posted since yesterday
> afternoon, when I last checked in. 
> 
> > 
> >  From: turquoiseb 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:02 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Our little Dutch girl
> >  
> > Already dressed in orange for the upcoming Queen's Day festivities.
> > 
> > Vermeer would have killed to be able to paint her.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[Michael Jackson]

David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern - 
if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, and 
especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn out like these 
guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they would then take a 
pass on TM - wise decision!




 From: merlin 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM 
to 1M at-risk Youth
 


  

David Lynch and Russell Brand 
Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
to at-risk Youth

__*___

http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[doctordumbass]

I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a 
consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two 
timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael!   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern 
> - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, 
> and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn out like 
> these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they would then 
> take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: merlin 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
> TM to 1M at-risk Youth
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> to at-risk Youth
> 
> __*___
> 
> http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chuck Norris Larger than Life

[Ravi Chivukula]

Oh please - I hope Zee Know doesn't read this because he will fucking send
this through a word compactor - replace Chuck with Robin and re-post it.

Very funny though :-)



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Jason  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Features  » Sunday 
> Magazine
>
>
> Sir Chuck  Norris
> ANANTHA NARAYAN
>
> It all began in the summer of 2005, when Ian Spector invited
> people to make up their own fun facts about Chuck Norris for
> a humour section in his website. Overnight the satirical
> factoids became e-mail forwards and thus was born the god of
> all gods.
>
> From a B-grade action movie star, Chuck Norris became the
> omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent superhero who could
> do no wrong. Every aspect of his deadpan persona became
> grist for some rip roaring hyperboles. Here's a selection of
> the sparklers that was later recycled as 'original'
> Rajnikant and Sir Jadeja jokes.
>
> "Chuck Norris can strangle you with a cordless phone."
>
> Violence is an integral part of the Texas Ranger's charm.
> Naturally, fans tripped over one another to compose hosannas
> around his fear factor. That's how 'Chuck Norris can hit you
> so hard, your blood will bleed', 'He doesn’t shower, he only
> takes blood baths', 'He can make a happy meal cry' kind of
> bombast came into being. The impossibility of taking a panga
> with Chuck was best captured by this punch line: 'Once a
> cobra bit his leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the
> cobra died.'
>
> "Chuck Norris can speak Braille."
>
> To create a megastar aura, the protagonist must breach the
> wall of credulity. Chuck Norris, by definition being larger
> than larger-than-life, was credited with absurdly
> jaw-dropping feats to bolster the image of The Amazing One.
> Which is why we get to hear of accomplishments like: "Chuck
> Norris can delete the recycle bin", 'He can make the onions
> cry', 'He can play the violin with a piano', 'He can kill
> two stones with one bird' and 'He can squeeze orange juice
> out of a lemon'!
>
> "Chuck Norris' blood type is AK-47."
>
> Fearlessness is another key element in myth making.
> Jokesters of the Chuck cult did their bit to perpetuate this
> misimpression. The story goes that when young Chuck Norris
> was in middle school his English teacher asked him to pen an
> essay on 'What is Courage?' The little boy thought for a
> nanosecond, scribbled only his name on the blank answer
> sheet and submitted that as his piece. The gobsmacked
> teacher gave him an A+.
>
> "Chuck Norris runs on his treadmill until the treadmill gets
> tired."
>
> Incredible physical deeds offer one more valve for
> generating laughs. Stuff such as 'Chuck Norris beat the sun
> in a staring contest', 'He once climbed Mt. Everest in 15
> minutes, 14 of which was spent on building a snowman at the
> bottom', and 'Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth
> and boils the water with his own rage' provide clues as to
> why 'Superman wears the Chuck Norris suit'.
>
> "Chuck Norris is the only person that can punch a Cyclops
> between the eye."
>
> Chuck is an icon among nerds as he offers the perfect
> algorithm for expressing cerebral wit. So, be it the
> chemistry laden "Chuck Norris doesn’t recognise the periodic
> table, because the only element he recognises is the element
> of surprise" or the biological 'Oxygen requires Chuck Norris
> to live', or even the very mathematical 'Chuck Norris
> counted to infinity, twice', the geek always has the last
> laugh.
>
> "Chuck Norris doesn't flush the toilet. He scares the s**t
> out of it."
>
> Word play is on steroids when the subject is Mr. Norris.
> 'The only reason Thor is the god of lightning is because
> Chuck Norris stole his thunder' and 'His daughter lost her
> virginity, he got it back' are some samplers that go to
> prove the adage that 'Chuck can inject some fun even into a
> funeral'.
>
> --
>
>
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin 
> Powers.  
> 

LOL! That's what happens when you cross a figment of your imagination with a 
hair up your inadequate, victimized ass...you get ripped a new one. It's a 
bloody mess-acre.   


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double down
> > - "one's stuff ripped open forcefully" "one's dark stuff will flow like
> > blood in a massacre" - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru
> > Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years
> > old? Or is it some fear of death?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Yay!!!
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
> > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of
> > > Xeno's
> > > > > > analogy anyway.  Now imagine our little clam not only having an
> > > evasively
> > > > > > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp
> > > claws
> > > > > > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy
> > > > > > tendrils.  No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > them!  Psychologically raped!  Then a wonderful pod of dolphins
> > > arrived
> > > > > > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining
> > > anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised
> > > analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is
> > > attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why
> > > techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything
> > > tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped
> > > open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like
> > > blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff
> > > forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre
> > > before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me:
> > > "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it."
> > > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[Ravi Chivukula]

I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers?



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com <
no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin
> Powers.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double
> down
> > - "one's stuff ripped open forcefully" "one's dark stuff will flow like
> > blood in a massacre" - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru
> > Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years
> > old? Or is it some fear of death?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@... <
> > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Yay!!!
>
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
> > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of
> > > Xeno's
> > > > > > analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having an
>
> > > evasively
> > > > > > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp
> > > claws
> > > > > > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy
> > > > > > tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on
> all of
> > > > > > them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins
>
> > > arrived
> > > > > > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining
> > > anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a
> generalised
> > > analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is
> > > attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why
> > > techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning
> everything
> > > tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff
> ripped
> > > open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like
> > > blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff
> > > forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a
> massacre
> > > before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after
> me:
> > > "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow
> it."
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[doctordumbass]

Perhaps a deep seated fear that Robin will hold FFL hostage...for 
ONE...MILLION...DOLLARS!!

I'm taking the book deal: 
Titled, "Against Our Will? No Fucking Way!" - How a courageous band of misfits 
turned the tables on the power structure at FFL, and lived to tell about it, 
unscathed, except for the one who got grounded by his mom. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers?
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumbass@... <
> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin
> > Powers.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double
> > down
> > > - "one's stuff ripped open forcefully" "one's dark stuff will flow like
> > > blood in a massacre" - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really Guru
> > > Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 years
> > > old? Or is it some fear of death?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> > > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yay!!!
> >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of
> > > > Xeno's
> > > > > > > analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having 
> > > > > > > an
> >
> > > > evasively
> > > > > > > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp
> > > > claws
> > > > > > > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy
> > > > > > > tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on
> > all of
> > > > > > > them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of 
> > > > > > > dolphins
> >
> > > > arrived
> > > > > > > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining
> > > > anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a
> > generalised
> > > > analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is
> > > > attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why
> > > > techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning
> > everything
> > > > tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff
> > ripped
> > > > open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like
> > > > blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff
> > > > forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a
> > massacre
> > > > before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after
> > me:
> > > > "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow
> > it."
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[Jason]

Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much 
of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, 
Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on.

So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like 
Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice 
celibacy.

If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of 
consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss.


---  doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a 
> consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two 
> timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael!   
> 
> ---  Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, 
> > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn 
> > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they 
> > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: merlin 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
> > TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > to at-risk Youth
> > 
> > __*___
> > 
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[doctordumbass]

Polly wanna cracker? Jai Guru Dev --

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much 
> of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, 
> Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on.
> 
> So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like 
> Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice 
> celibacy.
> 
> If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of 
> consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss.
> 
> 
> ---  doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a 
> > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two 
> > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael!   
> > 
> > ---  Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at 
> > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our 
> > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding 
> > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: merlin 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > > to at-risk Youth
> > > 
> > > __*___
> > > 
> > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a 
> consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two 
> timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael!   

Curiously, if you believe that yogic flying is a type of
levitation you *have* denied his theory of relativity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[doctordumbass]

Personally? I don't know why, or if, anyone would want to do so-called yogic 
flying, by itself. Certainly not an efficient mode of transportation, is it? 
Also, I remember one of the first reports I heard about it, in 1978, prior to 
practicing the TMSP myself, was that crows nearby were laughing at those 
practicing the so-called yogic flying. 

We celebrated my son-in-law's birthday yesterday, and the icing would not have 
been nearly as good, without the cake. Same thing with the commonly called 
flying technique. It gets a lot of attention, but is really the last in a 
series of integral steps, designed to do a lot of other stuff, too. I have not 
practiced the TMSP since 1995 or so, though may do again at some point. 

As for the theory of relativity countering any levitation that may occur during 
the so-called yogic flying technique, who knows? I don't think anyone knows the 
answer to that, assuming levitation does take place. Not that big a deal to me, 
one way or the other. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a 
> > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two 
> > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael!   
> 
> Curiously, if you believe that yogic flying is a type of
> levitation you *have* denied his theory of relativity.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Perhaps a deep seated fear that Robin will hold FFL hostage...for 
> ONE...MILLION...DOLLARS!!
> 
> I'm taking the book deal: 
> Titled, "Against Our Will? No Fucking Way!" - How a courageous band of 
> misfits turned the tables on the power structure at FFL, and lived to tell 
> about it, unscathed, except for the one who got grounded by his mom. 
> 

The mollusk clam-up ever so comical
Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical

But the share of his lunch
Was ate by a bunch

Of wags making fun of his barnacles


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and Austin
> > > Powers.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double
> > > down
> > > > - "one's stuff ripped open forcefully" "one's dark stuff will flow like
> > > > blood in a massacre" - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really 
> > > > Guru
> > > > Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 
> > > > years
> > > > old? Or is it some fear of death?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> > > > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yay!!!
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of
> > > > > Xeno's
> > > > > > > > analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only 
> > > > > > > > having an
> > >
> > > > > evasively
> > > > > > > > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with 
> > > > > > > > sharp
> > > > > claws
> > > > > > > > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their 
> > > > > > > > acidy
> > > > > > > > tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on
> > > all of
> > > > > > > > them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of 
> > > > > > > > dolphins
> > >
> > > > > arrived
> > > > > > > > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining
> > > > > anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a
> > > generalised
> > > > > analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is
> > > > > attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why
> > > > > techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning
> > > everything
> > > > > tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff
> > > ripped
> > > > > open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow 
> > > > > like
> > > > > blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff
> > > > > forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a
> > > massacre
> > > > > before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after
> > > me:
> > > > > "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow
> > > it."
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
>
> > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of
Xeno's
> > analogy anyway.  Now imagine our little clam not only having an
evasively
> > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp
claws
> > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy
> > tendrils.  No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all
of
> > them!  Psychologically raped!  Then a wonderful pod of
dolphins arrived
> > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
>
> I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining
anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised
analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is
attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why
techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything
tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff
ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will
flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
>

So simple and clear.  Putting a template that this is perspective from
"CC",  and therefore "lacking" in some way, seems strange to me, at the
least.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:

> No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff
forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a
massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat
after me: "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I
allow it."
>
Your natural resting position as a "clam", may be "closed".  For others
the resting point may be "open", which means that something you thought
might be nourishment can get in a little more easily.  Then it may turn
out to be something else.

And this statement here: "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks
with me unless I allow it."

If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this as
well as anyone.  I think her term "psychological rape" has been blown
totally out of proportion.  I don't see her letting anyone mess with
her.

I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use that
analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most. 
And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except that
you might on occassion be misunderstood.

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

> Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality -
> virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault
was
> my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she
remains as
> stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's
just a
> fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because
I
> say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still
love my
> ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her
> delusions.

Ravi, I'm afraid it is your revisionist posts that are always the
fantasy.  This is well documented.  But I get it  that it makes you feel
better when you "after the fact" can claim that none of it is what you
meant to say, and that "this" is the way it is.  The problem is, that no
one believes it, even when you scream it repeatedly.

Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well
> except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least
one
> of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and
empathetic I
> will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist
mind
> you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to
learn
> empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I
said
> courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track
to
> learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex
was
> my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light.
>
> Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you
some
> relief.
>
>
> >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way.
Wouldn't have
> > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to
pay
> > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the
"gang rape"
> > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior
to
> > showing
> > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could
have
> > been
> > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was
enjoying
> > be
> > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is a
> > humorous and
> > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree.
> > > >
> > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that
affect.
> > > >
> > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden
> > messages
> > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to
be
> > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume
> > incorrectly
> > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked
you - no
> > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my
post
> > back
> > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang rape"
> > reminded
> > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word
rape and
> > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just
> > riffin' -
> > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my
> > tendency to
> > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth.
> > > >
> > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song,
as I do
> > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting
song
> > and
> > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a
misinterpretation - by
> > > > you?
> > > >
> > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this
forum.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM
> > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR
me?
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it.
> > > >
> > > > It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation.
> > > >
> > > > But that distinction will not interest you because you are a
troll and
> > > > your posting intentions are unfriendly.
> > > >
> > > > You think you are "getting" a person Judy does not like and
winning her
> > > > approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your
shallow
> > agenda.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing
empathy
> > but
> > > > this
> > > > > one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person
asking
> > these
> > > > > questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational
for
> > even
> > > > > trying to communicate that, viz "I have no idea why you write
any of
> > > > this"
> > > > > - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or
psychopathy?
> > > > >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

> Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality -
> virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault
was
> my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she
remains as
> stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's
just a
> fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because
I
> say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still
love my
> ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her
> delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal
(well
> except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least
one
> of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and
empathetic I
> will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist
mind
> you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to
learn
> empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I
said
> courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track
to
> learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex
was
> my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light.

Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven
different ways she may want to perform oral sex?


>
> Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you
some
> relief.
>
>
> >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way.
Wouldn't have
> > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to
pay
> > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the
"gang rape"
> > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior
to
> > showing
> > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could
have
> > been
> > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was
enjoying
> > be
> > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is a
> > humorous and
> > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree.
> > > >
> > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that
affect.
> > > >
> > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden
> > messages
> > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to
be
> > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume
> > incorrectly
> > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked
you - no
> > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my
post
> > back
> > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang rape"
> > reminded
> > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word
rape and
> > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just
> > riffin' -
> > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my
> > tendency to
> > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth.
> > > >
> > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song,
as I do
> > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting
song
> > and
> > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a
misinterpretation - by
> > > > you?
> > > >
> > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this
forum.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM
> > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR
me?
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it.
> > > >
> > > > It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation.
> > > >
> > > > But that distinction will not interest you because you are a
troll and
> > > > your posting intentions are unfriendly.
> > > >
> > > > You think you are "getting" a person Judy does not like and
winning her
> > > > approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your
shallow
> > agenda.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing
empathy
> > but
> > > > this
> > > > > one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person
asking
> > these
> > > > > questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational
for
> > even
> > > > > trying to communicate that, viz "I have no idea why you write
any of
> > > > this"
> > > > > - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or
psychopathy?
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by
the
> > gang
> > > > > rape lyrics. Looking back it was proba

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
> 
> > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff
> forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a
> massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat
> after me: "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I
> allow it."
> >
> Your natural resting position as a "clam", may be "closed".  For others
> the resting point may be "open", which means that something you thought
> might be nourishment can get in a little more easily.  Then it may turn
> out to be something else.
> 
> And this statement here: "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks
> with me unless I allow it."
> 
> If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this as
> well as anyone.  I think her term "psychological rape" has been blown
> totally out of proportion.  I don't see her letting anyone mess with
> her.
> 
> I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use that
> analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most. 
> And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except that
> you might on occassion be misunderstood.
>

I was reply to and referring to Zee Know. Geez, talk about misunderstanding. 
He's the one who started the whole stupid clam analogy and now you're frosting 
the clam cake. Let this be the last word on clams:

The mollusk clam-up ever so comical
Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical

But the share of his lunch
Was ate by a bunch

Of wags making fun of clam's barnacles 

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > >
> > > "Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. "
> > >
> > > I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over
> > > backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway.
> >
> > You crack me up Ravi.  You fashion yourself as such a champion  of women
> > in the virtual world.  Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world.  But
> > of course, as you so often say, "the fault was all on my ex"
> >
> 
> Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality -
> virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was
> my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as
> stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a
> fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I
> say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my
> ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her
> delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well
> except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one
> of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I
> will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind
> you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn
> empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said
> courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to
> learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was
> my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light.
> 
> Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some
> relief.

Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in 
your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to 
do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly 
person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and 
responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he 
bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to 
respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your 
intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav.

And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, 
her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became 
wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin 
all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more 
compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it 
was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all.
> 
> 
> >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have
> > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay
> > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the "gang rape"
> > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to
> > showing
> > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have
> > been
> > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was enjoying
> > be
> > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is a
> > humorous and
> > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree.
> > > >
> > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect.
> > > >
> > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden
> > messages
> > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be
> > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume
> > incorrectly
> > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no
> > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post
> > back
> > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang rape"
> > reminded
> > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and
> > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just
> > riffin' -
> > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my
> > tendency to
> > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth.
> > > >
> > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do
> > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song
> > and
> > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by
> > > > you?
> > > >
> > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[seventhray27]

Sounds good to me.  I'll take a Raunchy poem, or ditty anytime.  Even a
raunchy one. (-:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
> >
> > > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your
stuff
> > forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a
> > massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about?
Repeat
> > after me: "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me
unless I
> > allow it."
> > >
> > Your natural resting position as a "clam", may be "closed".  For
others
> > the resting point may be "open", which means that something you
thought
> > might be nourishment can get in a little more easily.  Then it may
turn
> > out to be something else.
> >
> > And this statement here: "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody
fucks
> > with me unless I allow it."
> >
> > If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this
as
> > well as anyone.  I think her term "psychological rape" has been
blown
> > totally out of proportion.  I don't see her letting anyone mess with
> > her.
> >
> > I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use
that
> > analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most.
> > And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except
that
> > you might on occassion be misunderstood.
> >
>
> I was reply to and referring to Zee Know. Geez, talk about
misunderstanding. He's the one who started the whole stupid clam analogy
and now you're frosting the clam cake. Let this be the last word on
clams:
>
> The mollusk clam-up ever so comical
> Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical
>
> But the share of his lunch
> Was ate by a bunch
>
> Of wags making fun of clam's barnacles
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song

[curtisdeltablues]

Much appreciated Steve.  I think that the distance the subject provides in time 
and culture does make it a useful tool for discussing hot topics and how to 
express our feelings about them.  I am doing work in elementary schools on 
figurative language writing through the blues but don't have an outlet for a 
more advanced course.  It is a part of my theater show.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
> Curtis, this is fascinating.  Even just this bit I think would be a
> valuable part of a college curricula on black studies.  Or certainly any
> study of the Blues.
> 
> And especially how it must be adapted to current sensibilities.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote:
> >
> > I appreciate that Emily as well as your response to Raunchy's post.
> >
> > Great art is provocative and this discussion has deepened my respect
> for the lyrics.
> >
> > I also think that your mentioning the cultural context IS key to
> understanding the intent of the author.
> >
> > I run into this decision often in singing songs from a different
> historical and cultural context. Just last night I sang Robert Johnson's
> Me and the Devil"
> >
> > ( I am going to point our a verse but the content is not being
> directed toward you!)
> >
> > I love the song because it shows how bold Robert was about the concept
> of the devil which had many of his contemporaries cowered down in fear.
> Here it is and you will immediately see the problem for modern
> audiences:
> >
> >
> >
> > Early this mornin'
> > when you knocked upon my door
> > Early this mornin', ooh
> > when you knocked upon my door
> > And I said, "Hello, Satan,"
> > I believe it's time to go."
> >
> >
> > Me and the Devil
> > was walkin' side by side
> > Me and the Devil, ooh
> > was walkin' side by side
> > And I'm goin' to beat my woman
> > until I get satisfied
> >
> >
> > She say you don't see why
> > that I will dog her 'round
> > spoken: Now, babe, you know you ain't doin' me
> > right, don'cha
> > She say you don't see why, ooh
> > that I will dog her 'round
> > It must-a be that old evil spirit
> > so deep down in the ground
> >
> >
> > You may bury my body
> > down by the highway side
> > spoken: Baby, I don't care where you bury my
> > body when I'm dead and gone
> > You may bury my body, ooh
> > down by the highway side
> > So my old evil spirit
> > can catch a Greyhound bus and ride
> >
> > For Robert this was a comedic song with the line "I'm gunna beat my
> woman till I get satisfied" pulling the biggest laugh from an audience
> that was more along the lines of Ralph Cramdon making a fist and saying
> "one of these days Alice, straight to the moon". Today this is all over
> the top creepy, we know too much. But in Robert's day women beating men
> were also common. (It was a big problem for Charley Patton with Bertha
> Lee who was considerably bigger and stronger and usually less drunk.)
> >
> > So of course I can't explain all this as the audience turns on me for
> singing such a lyric so I change it to:
> >
> > "I'm gunna do my woman till we both get satisfied" to make sure that
> there is not misunderstanding even adding "both".
> >
> > But here is the problem artistically. I wreck the song's comedic
> intention about the battle of the sexes and turn it into some kind of
> sexual bravado bragging. It wrecks the meaning of the next verses.
> >
> > "She say you don't see why
> > that I will dog her 'round "
> >
> > Then he blames it on the devil:
> >
> > It must-a be that old evil spirit
> > so deep down in the ground
> >
> > I can get a laugh out of a modern audience here by saying that he is
> blaming his bad behavior on the devil but I don't think that worked any
> better back then as it does today. This restores some of the original
> snarky intention of the lyrics that I stepped on my making it more
> politically correct.
> >
> > More trouble in bluesman city: "Big fat woman" lyrics and the even
> worse, "black skinned woman who shouldn't put a hand on me, while a
> brown skinned woman is something fit to eat." (Yes shade racism is still
> common today in the black community.) So I drop all the fat woman
> references (even though in the songs it is a compliment) and they become
> a big legged woman, which is more clearly complimentary, and turn the
> color discrimination into different cities. (A Leland woman, something
> fit to eat, but you Memphis women,don't put your hands on me.) It still
> retains some of the character of the original with the benefit of not
> having Sam Adams bottles bounced off my head. (I play in yuppie joints.)
> >
> > It is all part of trying to be socially conscious while trying to
> preserve this poetry. Most of these lines are a distraction to the
> song's more general meanings, so I don't want the audience's focus by
> reaction to keep them from appreciating the music.
> >
> > And then there is all the sex stuff where metaphors are not
> metaphorical enough that

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:

> Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something
personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though
it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in
my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you
rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve
in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a
result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified
attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote
above was to do that. More power to you Rav.
>
> And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more
empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life
because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into
my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better
person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the
experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru'
after all.

Ann, I do apologize if facts don't suit your fancy.  And I do apologize
if Ravi has made an utter fool of himself on many occasions.  He even
admits so himself.  But try not coming off looking like a total
hypocrite.  We are accountable for what write here.  And if we don't
wish to be held accountable, well, then, just don't post here.  But you
just can't have it both ways.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song

[curtisdeltablues]

Much appreciated Steve.  I think that the distance the subject provides in time 
and culture does make it a useful tool for discussing hot topics and how to 
express our feelings about them.  I am doing work in elementary schools on 
figurative language writing through the blues, but don't have an outlet for a 
more advanced course.  It is a part of my theater show.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
> Curtis, this is fascinating.  Even just this bit I think would be a
> valuable part of a college curricula on black studies.  Or certainly any
> study of the Blues.
> 
> And especially how it must be adapted to current sensibilities.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote:
> >
> > I appreciate that Emily as well as your response to Raunchy's post.
> >
> > Great art is provocative and this discussion has deepened my respect
> for the lyrics.
> >
> > I also think that your mentioning the cultural context IS key to
> understanding the intent of the author.
> >
> > I run into this decision often in singing songs from a different
> historical and cultural context. Just last night I sang Robert Johnson's
> Me and the Devil"
> >
> > ( I am going to point our a verse but the content is not being
> directed toward you!)
> >
> > I love the song because it shows how bold Robert was about the concept
> of the devil which had many of his contemporaries cowered down in fear.
> Here it is and you will immediately see the problem for modern
> audiences:
> >
> >
> >
> > Early this mornin'
> > when you knocked upon my door
> > Early this mornin', ooh
> > when you knocked upon my door
> > And I said, "Hello, Satan,"
> > I believe it's time to go."
> >
> >
> > Me and the Devil
> > was walkin' side by side
> > Me and the Devil, ooh
> > was walkin' side by side
> > And I'm goin' to beat my woman
> > until I get satisfied
> >
> >
> > She say you don't see why
> > that I will dog her 'round
> > spoken: Now, babe, you know you ain't doin' me
> > right, don'cha
> > She say you don't see why, ooh
> > that I will dog her 'round
> > It must-a be that old evil spirit
> > so deep down in the ground
> >
> >
> > You may bury my body
> > down by the highway side
> > spoken: Baby, I don't care where you bury my
> > body when I'm dead and gone
> > You may bury my body, ooh
> > down by the highway side
> > So my old evil spirit
> > can catch a Greyhound bus and ride
> >
> > For Robert this was a comedic song with the line "I'm gunna beat my
> woman till I get satisfied" pulling the biggest laugh from an audience
> that was more along the lines of Ralph Cramdon making a fist and saying
> "one of these days Alice, straight to the moon". Today this is all over
> the top creepy, we know too much. But in Robert's day women beating men
> were also common. (It was a big problem for Charley Patton with Bertha
> Lee who was considerably bigger and stronger and usually less drunk.)
> >
> > So of course I can't explain all this as the audience turns on me for
> singing such a lyric so I change it to:
> >
> > "I'm gunna do my woman till we both get satisfied" to make sure that
> there is not misunderstanding even adding "both".
> >
> > But here is the problem artistically. I wreck the song's comedic
> intention about the battle of the sexes and turn it into some kind of
> sexual bravado bragging. It wrecks the meaning of the next verses.
> >
> > "She say you don't see why
> > that I will dog her 'round "
> >
> > Then he blames it on the devil:
> >
> > It must-a be that old evil spirit
> > so deep down in the ground
> >
> > I can get a laugh out of a modern audience here by saying that he is
> blaming his bad behavior on the devil but I don't think that worked any
> better back then as it does today. This restores some of the original
> snarky intention of the lyrics that I stepped on my making it more
> politically correct.
> >
> > More trouble in bluesman city: "Big fat woman" lyrics and the even
> worse, "black skinned woman who shouldn't put a hand on me, while a
> brown skinned woman is something fit to eat." (Yes shade racism is still
> common today in the black community.) So I drop all the fat woman
> references (even though in the songs it is a compliment) and they become
> a big legged woman, which is more clearly complimentary, and turn the
> color discrimination into different cities. (A Leland woman, something
> fit to eat, but you Memphis women,don't put your hands on me.) It still
> retains some of the character of the original with the benefit of not
> having Sam Adams bottles bounced off my head. (I play in yuppie joints.)
> >
> > It is all part of trying to be socially conscious while trying to
> preserve this poetry. Most of these lines are a distraction to the
> song's more general meanings, so I don't want the audience's focus by
> reaction to keep them from appreciating the music.
> >
> > And then there is all the sex stuff where metaphors are not
> metaphorical enough tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 

Trolling for a blow job, Steve? Got nothing for you here. Hope you get lucky. 
You're more obnoxious than getting a case of chiggers. Chiggers try to get 
under your skin, but at least they have the good sense to eventually die off. 

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> 
> > Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality -
> > virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault
> was
> > my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she
> remains as
> > stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's
> just a
> > fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because
> I
> > say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still
> love my
> > ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her
> > delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal
> (well
> > except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least
> one
> > of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and
> empathetic I
> > will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist
> mind
> > you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to
> learn
> > empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I
> said
> > courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track
> to
> > learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex
> was
> > my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light.
> 
> Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven
> different ways she may want to perform oral sex?
> 
> 
> >
> > Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you
> some
> > relief.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way.
> Wouldn't have
> > > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to
> pay
> > > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the
> "gang rape"
> > > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior
> to
> > > showing
> > > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could
> have
> > > been
> > > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was
> enjoying
> > > be
> > > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is a
> > > humorous and
> > > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree.
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that
> affect.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden
> > > messages
> > > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to
> be
> > > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume
> > > incorrectly
> > > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked
> you - no
> > > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my
> post
> > > back
> > > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang rape"
> > > reminded
> > > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word
> rape and
> > > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just
> > > riffin' -
> > > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my
> > > tendency to
> > > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song,
> as I do
> > > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting
> song
> > > and
> > > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a
> misinterpretation - by
> > > > > you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this
> forum.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > > > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM
> > > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR
> me?
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation.
> > > > >
> > > > > But that distinction will not interest you because you are a
> troll and
> > > > > your posting intentions are unfriendly.
> > > > >
> > > > > You think you are "getting" a person Judy does not like and
> winning her
> > > > > approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your
> shallow
> > > agenda.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> chivukula.ravi@
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing
> empathy
> > > but
> > > > > thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:

> Trolling for a blow job, Steve? Got nothing for you here. Hope you get
lucky. You're more obnoxious than getting a case of chiggers. Chiggers
try to get under your skin, but at least they have the good sense to
eventually die off.

Look Raunchy, I know how you feel about that period, and I don't care to
dredge it up myself.  But if Ravi is going to carry on about how
empathetic he is, about how much he loves women, and what an idiot I am
to doubt him, then I am going to say something on my behalf.  That's how
it works here.  So maybe on occasion you might want address comments of
this nature that you just addressed to me, to Ravi, or even Judy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: In which Share is psychologically raped

[authfriend]

Correction below...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> Here we go folks, this is the Psychological Rape of
> Share you've heard so much about.
> 
> Obviously each of you will choose whether to read it
> or not, but I would suggest that if you *don't* read
> it, you are not in a position to comment on any of
> the current discussion about Share's "psychological
> rape" accusation, because the post below is what it
> has all been about.
> 
> I've snipped the second part of the post because it's
> just more friendly conversation about other topics,
> but if you want to read that too, here it is:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/post

Sorry, bad link. Here's the right one:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319178

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking
> forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my feelings on
> it.
> 
> It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic,
> entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very
> misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women,

Spin? To what end?  To protect the author of a song long dead?  We are 
interpreting art Ravi.  Even if you see the last scene as a rape it expresses 
none of the things you claim, it would simply just be a reporting of a tragedy. 
 The writer isn't condoning the behavior, he is reporting what happened and we 
are left to decide what exactly IS happening. But all those value judgement you 
are Raunchy are projecting on the story are bogus IMO.


  hard for me to interpret the lyrics as anything but gang rape - I don't
> see, have never heard of any woman in any culture trying to get back at a
> man by sleeping with multiple men at the same time regardless of men's
> fantasies.>

And you are welcome to your interpretation and your naivete about some women. 

> 
> Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their
> heart-centeredness 

Some of them are actually very well spoken as well as clean. (sometimes)

- heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't
> suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for a
> yuppie audience>

Uh oh I recognize this wind-up from Fox News...


< I will say that most of the culture is very crude,
> misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that
> enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to have
> multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass
> languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman.>

Hey Raunchy isn't it cute to hear Sean Hannity with an Indian accent?  
Completely adorable!  

BTW Ravi, which specific black people are you accusing of this behavior, or if 
you are accusing it in a more broad sense what percentage of black people do 
you think fall into this category of men who force their women to have more 
children for the welfare money while they are in prison?

But don't sweat it, the umbridge committee wont touch this, you are completely 
safe here.  

So cute!

<
 Fine to be
> sexist, misogynistic as an artistic expression in music, movie for
> entertainment but surely not a prescription for a modern, liberal,
> sophisticated society.>

So art needs to be a prescription for society?  Why are you imposing this 
idiotic standard on artistic expression?  And how exactly would reporting on a 
scene of a gang rape be a form of misogyny? The guy describes the scene with 
one guy trying to tear his kingdom down through this act.  You thought this 
might be useful in Curtis bashing just as Raunchy did (hey thanks for the 
sincere apology for your ridiculous nasty judgmental comments about me before 
you pulled your head out and got a clue what the discussion was about, c'est la 
vie, right? 

Ravi you really should stick to your drive by tourrettes trolling.  The more 
you write the more the real you shows up. 


  

> 
> I love India and Hinduism but I will the first one to condemn it as a
> misogynistic culture, trust me it was no fun watching a woman struggle to
> raise kids all the while being taunted, abused by the narrow minded Hindu
> culture  - why? Because she went against the society's norms and dared to
> have a boy friend - while it's OK for men to cheat secretly and indulge in
> all kinds of repressed, perverted sexual practices.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:28 PM, raunchydog  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Raunchy, I think Curtis is correct in his interpretation, in terms of
> > historical context and what the author of those lyrics was intending to
> > communicate to his audience, at least that's how it hits me in the moment
> > this morning. Â The song lyrics contain, of course, a cultural element and
> > there are many blues songs that speak to the black man loving his woman and
> > how she "done him wrong", etc., etc. Â The black culture also brings a
> > different attitude towards sexuality than our puritan caucasian one does
> > and it speaks to that as well. Â And in the black culture, it is true that
> > the woman is in charge. Â Smile. Â  Â
> > >
> >
> > I hadn't followed this thread, so when I read the lyrics this morning, I
> > had a visceral reaction of revulsion to what evoked an image of gang rape.
> > I din't buy Curtis' GF's take that it was not rape but "a woman in her
> > power blowing off her husband and living a hedonistic fantasy." Your
> > initial reaction that the lyrics were more sinister may have been similar
> > to mine. I didn't take time to explain how I felt about the lyrics to
> > Curtis, first because I didn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity

[Buck]

The TM Saha Nav translation used 
in the administration of the TM movement: 

Let us be together;
Let us eat together;
Let us be vital together;
Let us be radiating truth;
Radiating the light of life;
Never shall we denounce anyone,
Never entertain negativity.

>
> 
> saha nāv avatu | saha nau bhunaktu |
> saha vīryaṃ karavāvahai | tejasvi nāv adhītam astu 
> | mā vidviṣāvahai |
> >
> > 
> > > 
> > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir;  I wish to submit in to the record for 
> > > discussion a previous testimony given by FFL resident scholar and expert 
> > > of Sanskrit transliteration, our distinguished elder meditating member 
> > > and linguist from Finland.  
> > > Mr. Moderator, please include for our larger consideration the record of 
> > > the testimony given in FFL post number 302944 and its related replies on 
> > > the topic of the correct translation of the Sanskrit of the Saha Nav hymn 
> > > in to English.  For our current review of the resolution please admit in 
> > > to the record this link to the post by Cardemaister fra Finland about the 
> > > more proper translation of the TM Saha Nav hymn:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302944  
> > > Most Respectfully,
> > > -Buck
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > FFL,  A Question for the forum: Are there any witnesses present as to 
> > > > the origin of the TM version of the Saha Nav hymn?  When was the Saha 
> > > > Nav hymn first transliterated the way the TM movement uses it?  Lurkers 
> > > > who are without their own exclusive membership with posting privileges 
> > > > are always free to contact and send their testimony to the FFL owner 
> > > > listed at the home page for FFL as a way of being included in FFL. 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir, A Point of order; there seems to be a 
> > > > > discrepancy between the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav 
> > > > > hymn on the one hand and the TM movement's version which was created. 
> > > > >  We should need expert witness as to reconcile the evident difference 
> > > > > to the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn and the 
> > > > > origin of the TM version used by the TM movement for their purposes.  
> > > > > Could witnesses come forward to testify as to the facts on the 
> > > > > discrepancy?
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; Let us proceed now directly to the 
> > > > > > discussion of the Saha Nav resolution, The Fairfieldlife Resolution 
> > > > > > of Mutual Respect, otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution.
> > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Amen to this buck
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Dear FFL,
> > > > > > > Mr. Moderator Sir; I take this "Amen" of the distinguished elder 
> > > > > > > meditator from Upstate of the Great State of New York as a second 
> > > > > > > to the motion on the Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect 
> > > > > > > otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution.
> > > > > > -Buck   
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > In a message dated 04/26/13 16:15:50 Eastern Daylight Time, 
> > > > > > > > Buck writes:
> > > > > > > > FFL Moderators, List Owner, Friends; as a motion for 
> > > > > > > > consideration, I move we consider the adoption of the more 
> > > > > > > > correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn as: 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The Fairfieldlife (FFL) Resolution of Mutual Respect: 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; 
> > > > > > > > May It nourish us both together; 
> > > > > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy, 
> > > > > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective; 
> > > > > > > > May we not mutually dispute or may we not hate any. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Friends, as a means to have constructive engagement with 
> > > > > > > > > these nay-bobs of anti-meditation negativity here, 
> > > > > > > > > In process first we need to enact a FFL resolution of mutual 
> > > > > > > > > respect 
> > > > > > > > > to have something in all our favor to rally around to enforce 
> > > > > > > > > against the anti-meditators here.  As a motion of 
> > > > > > > > > consideration I hereby move the adoption of the 
> > > > > > > > > The FFL Saha Nav Resolution. 
> > > > > > > > > For top banner publication across the FFL homepage. 
> > > > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I feel it is quite time to invoke emergency measures here 
> > > > > > > > > > to protect the integrity of FFL as a public and spiritual 
> > > > > > > > > > forum.  Though I do not look for this position, but a

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> 
> > Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something
> personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though
> it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in
> my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you
> rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve
> in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a
> result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified
> attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote
> above was to do that. More power to you Rav.
> >
> > And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more
> empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life
> because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into
> my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better
> person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the
> experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru'
> after all.
> 
> Ann, I do apologize if facts don't suit your fancy.  And I do apologize
> if Ravi has made an utter fool of himself on many occasions.  He even
> admits so himself.  But try not coming off looking like a total
> hypocrite.  We are accountable for what write here.  And if we don't
> wish to be held accountable, well, then, just don't post here.  But you
> just can't have it both ways.

If you care to rewrite this it might make a modicum of sense. As it stands 
right now I can't make heads or tails of it as it either relates to me or what 
is going on re: what you and I and Ravi just posted. All you are doing is 
reacting blindly and nothing of what you say is either clear or relevant. It is 
not that I don't want to understand what you just wrote it is that I simply 
CAN'T figure it out. That is usually the result when someone writes something 
in a knee jerk fashion while foaming at the mouth.
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
> 
> > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff
> forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a
> massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat
> after me: "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I
> allow it."
> >
> Your natural resting position as a "clam", may be "closed".  For others
> the resting point may be "open", which means that something you thought
> might be nourishment can get in a little more easily.  Then it may turn
> out to be something else.
> 
> And this statement here: "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks
> with me unless I allow it."
> 
> If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this as
> well as anyone.  I think her term "psychological rape" has been blown
> totally out of proportion.  I don't see her letting anyone mess with
> her.

Sure you do, otherwise why all this posturing on your part? If you "don't see 
her letting anyone mess with her" why all this fuss from your side? And then 
how could she have possibly been "psychologically raped"? Riddle me that one 
Stevie. On second thought, don't.
> 
> I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use that
> analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most. 
> And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except that
> you might on occassion be misunderstood.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:

> If you care to rewrite this it might make a modicum of sense. As it
stands right now I can't make heads or tails of it as it either relates
to me or what is going on re: what you and I and Ravi just posted. All
you are doing is reacting blindly and nothing of what you say is either
clear or relevant. It is not that I don't want to understand what you
just wrote it is that I simply CAN'T figure it out. That is usually the
result when someone writes something in a knee jerk fashion while
foaming at the mouth.
> >

Hey, you know what?  Don't even worry about it.  Ain't no big deal.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[Share Long]

Xeno, I didn't mind being called a clam but since I'm pretty vocal I don't 
think it fits.  So I'm now calling myself Seaturtle.  Good God, look at the 
sodium count on these Twinkies!  Hmmm, message from Universe for me to be 
saltier?!

As for your saying:  When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like 
blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
Can't wait!  Whoops, already happening ha ha!

Your pithy replies to Judy made me laugh today.  Ok, thanks and hope you have 
fun or whatever in your cave (-:



 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> XENO!  I posted the news item about Twinkies making a comeback on Friday 
> evening with your name in Subject line!  Oh well...

I missed that. I was in my cave writing. Then I watched a movie. I do not spend 
a lot of energy reading everything on FFL. You scooped me! Actually I preferred 
the Hostess chocolate cupcakes, you know, devil's food. When I ran across the 
article on Google news, having missed your post, I thought of you as I had used 
the Twinkie as an analogy concerning you.

Hostess Twinkie
Hostess Twinkie, 1 Twinkee
Nutrition Facts
Calories in Hostess Twinkie, 1 Twinkee
Serving Size: 1 serving
Amount Per Serving
Calories 150.0
Total Fat 4.0 g
Saturated Fat 2.0 g
Polyunsaturated Fat 0.0 g
Monounsaturated Fat 0.0 g
Cholesterol 20.0 mg
Sodium 220.0 mg
Potassium 0.0 mg
Total Carbohydrate 27.0 g
Dietary Fiber 0.0 g
Sugars 19.0 g
Protein 1.0 g
Vitamin A 0.0 %
Vitamin B-12 0.0 %
Vitamin B-6 0.0 %
Vitamin C 0.0 %
Vitamin D 0.0 %
Vitamin E 0.0 %
Calcium 0.0 %
Copper 0.0 %
Folate 0.0 %
Iron 0.0 %
Magnesium 0.0 %
Manganese 0.0 %
Niacin 0.0 %
Pantothenic Acid 0.0 %
Phosphorus 0.0 %
Riboflavin 0.0 %
Selenium 0.0 %
Thiamin 0.0 %
Zinc 0.0 %

Nutrition Facts
Calories in hostess cupcakes
Serving Size: 1 serving
Amount Per Serving
Calories 170.0
Total Fat 6.0 g
Saturated Fat 3.0 g
Polyunsaturated Fat 0.0 g
Monounsaturated Fat 0.0 g
Cholesterol 5.0 mg
Sodium 250.0 mg
Potassium 0.0 mg
Total Carbohydrate 30.0 g
Dietary Fiber 1.0 g
Sugars 21.0 g
Protein 1.0 g
Vitamin A 0.0 %
Vitamin B-12 0.0 %
Vitamin B-6 0.0 %
Vitamin C 0.0 %
Vitamin D 0.0 %
Vitamin E 0.0 %
Calcium 0.0 %
Copper 0.0 %
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape is impossible on FFL

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> Thanks Judy, but I looked up the whole exchange, (below)
> and it appears much more involved than you have here.

Very interesting, Steve. It appears that after reading
that quote from Robin I posted for you, you realized it
couldn't possibly have justified Share's "psychological
rape" charge, so you figured you needed to see more of
their interaction. You looked up the original post, but
that didn't help; so you went on to look up one of the
follow-ups.

And you found something you thought might be the smoking
gun that would vindicate Share:

(Share wrote, back then:)
> Replying to the first Robin2 below:  
> 
> Robin, it sounds like you're saying that you sensed you were 
> getting the real me and not my beliefs.  But OTOH you were
> very likely wrong.  Given this assessment of me by you, I'd
> prefer to suspend communication with you.  Apologies if I've
> misunderstood and in that case, I hope we can work things out.  

Er, no, sorry, this actually puts her in a deeper hole.
You need to do a *lot* more reading of what went on,
Steve, before you have anything like a clear picture.

Believe me, if there were anything I could do to get
Share's current fans to go back and read every word
Share and Robin have said to and about each other, I
would do it, because then they would understand what
the problem is with Share.

Anyway, what Steve quotes is Share's *misunderstanding*
of what Robin had written that I keep mentioning. Robin
nearly went out of his gourd trying to explain to her
what she'd gotten wrong, to no avail. It took him a
while to even understand himself what she had
misunderstood because it was so convoluted.

The key phrase is from Robin's initial post, the
parenthetical "it is very likely I am wrong."

Share's misunderstanding was SO tangled and nonsensical
that it became clear that *she herself* didn't understand
what she had been objecting to--because at different times
she objected to *opposite interpretations* of that phrase
without realizing she was doing so.

I made a post about this back then, with quotes and
links; it's here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/321880

(It's almost as if someone had told her what to say, but
after she'd said it and then had to follow up on it, she
got completely lost because she had never really grasped
the reason for saying it in the first place.)

> Perhaps I will have time to examine further.  Thanks again.

You won't, of course.

Leaving this in:

> > Xeno posted a definition of psychological rape:
> > 
> > "Trashing is a particularly vicious form of character assassination which 
> > amounts to psychological rape. It is manipulative, dishonest, and 
> > excessive. It is occasionally disguised by the rhetoric of honest conflict, 
> > or covered up by denying that any disapproval exists at all. But it is not 
> > meant to resolve differences. It is done to disparage and destroy."
> > 
> > I'm sure you can see how well that describes what Robin
> > said to Share that I just quoted.
> > 
> > (snip)
> > 
> > I guess you don't have any comment on this part of my
> > post:
> > 
> > > > And you're aware by now, I'm sure, that her initial reaction
> > > > to the interaction was that she was feeling a little grumpy
> > > > from eating too much sugar, "no problemo." And she apologized.
> > > >
> > > > Unless she was lying, of course. And boy, if she really had
> > > > just experienced herself to have been psychologically raped,
> > > > what a cool customer to apologize to her rapist for being
> > > > grumpy, and then continue the lighthearted conversation as
> > > > if nothing had happened.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chuck Norris Larger than Life

[Bhairitu]

Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM.

On 04/28/2013 04:40 AM, Jason wrote:
> Features » Sunday Magazine
>   
>   
> Sir Chuck  Norris
> ANANTHA NARAYAN
>
> It all began in the summer of 2005, when Ian Spector invited
> people to make up their own fun facts about Chuck Norris for
> a humour section in his website. Overnight the satirical
> factoids became e-mail forwards and thus was born the god of
> all gods.
>
> >From a B-grade action movie star, Chuck Norris became the
> omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent superhero who could
> do no wrong. Every aspect of his deadpan persona became
> grist for some rip roaring hyperboles. Here's a selection of
> the sparklers that was later recycled as 'original'
> Rajnikant and Sir Jadeja jokes.
>
> "Chuck Norris can strangle you with a cordless phone."
>
> Violence is an integral part of the Texas Ranger's charm.
> Naturally, fans tripped over one another to compose hosannas
> around his fear factor. That's how 'Chuck Norris can hit you
> so hard, your blood will bleed', 'He doesn’t shower, he only
> takes blood baths', 'He can make a happy meal cry' kind of
> bombast came into being. The impossibility of taking a panga
> with Chuck was best captured by this punch line: 'Once a
> cobra bit his leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the
> cobra died.'
>
> "Chuck Norris can speak Braille."
>
> To create a megastar aura, the protagonist must breach the
> wall of credulity. Chuck Norris, by definition being larger
> than larger-than-life, was credited with absurdly
> jaw-dropping feats to bolster the image of The Amazing One.
> Which is why we get to hear of accomplishments like: "Chuck
> Norris can delete the recycle bin", 'He can make the onions
> cry', 'He can play the violin with a piano', 'He can kill
> two stones with one bird' and 'He can squeeze orange juice
> out of a lemon'!
>
> "Chuck Norris' blood type is AK-47."
>
> Fearlessness is another key element in myth making.
> Jokesters of the Chuck cult did their bit to perpetuate this
> misimpression. The story goes that when young Chuck Norris
> was in middle school his English teacher asked him to pen an
> essay on 'What is Courage?' The little boy thought for a
> nanosecond, scribbled only his name on the blank answer
> sheet and submitted that as his piece. The gobsmacked
> teacher gave him an A+.
>
> "Chuck Norris runs on his treadmill until the treadmill gets
> tired."
>
> Incredible physical deeds offer one more valve for
> generating laughs. Stuff such as 'Chuck Norris beat the sun
> in a staring contest', 'He once climbed Mt. Everest in 15
> minutes, 14 of which was spent on building a snowman at the
> bottom', and 'Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth
> and boils the water with his own rage' provide clues as to
> why 'Superman wears the Chuck Norris suit'.
>
> "Chuck Norris is the only person that can punch a Cyclops
> between the eye."
>
> Chuck is an icon among nerds as he offers the perfect
> algorithm for expressing cerebral wit. So, be it the
> chemistry laden "Chuck Norris doesn’t recognise the periodic
> table, because the only element he recognises is the element
> of surprise" or the biological 'Oxygen requires Chuck Norris
> to live', or even the very mathematical 'Chuck Norris
> counted to infinity, twice', the geek always has the last
> laugh.
>
> "Chuck Norris doesn't flush the toilet. He scares the s**t
> out of it."
>
> Word play is on steroids when the subject is Mr. Norris.
> 'The only reason Thor is the god of lightning is because
> Chuck Norris stole his thunder' and 'His daughter lost her
> virginity, he got it back' are some samplers that go to
> prove the adage that 'Chuck can inject some fun even into a
> funeral'.
>   
> --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM.

Not likely. Chuck is a fundie jeebus nutter, and The Nuge is either dead or in 
jail.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[Emily Reyn]

Ah ha ha ha.  Dumbass, that is sooo funny.  Raunchy - I love it when you wax 
poetic.  Excellent.  



>
> From: raunchydog 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:53 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
> 
>
>
>  
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps a deep seated fear that Robin will hold FFL hostage...for 
>> ONE...MILLION...DOLLARS!!
>> 
>> I'm taking the book deal: 
>> Titled, "Against Our Will? No Fucking Way!" - How a courageous band of 
>> misfits turned the tables on the power structure at FFL, and lived to tell 
>> about it, unscathed, except for the one who got grounded by his mom. 
>> 
>
>The mollusk clam-up ever so comical
>Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical
>
>But the share of his lunch
>Was ate by a bunch
>
>Of wags making fun of his barnacles
>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>> >
>> > I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumbass@ <
>> > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and 
>> > > Austin
>> > > Powers.
>> > >
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double
>> > > down
>> > > > - "one's stuff ripped open forcefully" "one's dark stuff will flow like
>> > > > blood in a massacre" - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really 
>> > > > Guru
>> > > > Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 
>> > > > years
>> > > > old? Or is it some fear of death?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ <
>> > > > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > **
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yay!!!
>> > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
>> > > > >  wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of
>> > > > > Xeno's
>> > > > > > > > analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only 
>> > > > > > > > having an
>> > >
>> > > > > evasively
>> > > > > > > > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with 
>> > > > > > > > sharp
>> > > > > claws
>> > > > > > > > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their 
>> > > > > > > > acidy
>> > > > > > > > tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb 
>> > > > > > > > on
>> > > all of
>> > > > > > > > them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of 
>> > > > > > > > dolphins
>> > >
>> > > > > arrived
>> > > > > > > > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining
>> > > > > anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a
>> > > generalised
>> > > > > analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is
>> > > > > attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why
>> > > > > techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning
>> > > everything
>> > > > > tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff
>> > > ripped
>> > > > > open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow 
>> > > > > like
>> > > > > blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your 
>> > > > > > stuff
>> > > > > forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a
>> > > massacre
>> > > > > before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after
>> > > me:
>> > > > > "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow
>> > > it."
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life

[Bhairitu]

On 04/28/2013 09:19 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM.
> Not likely. Chuck is a fundie jeebus nutter, and The Nuge is either dead or 
> in jail.
>
>

Yeah, but the idea of them starting TM was funny.  TM might give Nugent 
a better aim. ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 04/28/2013 09:19 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM.
> > Not likely. Chuck is a fundie jeebus nutter, and The Nuge is
> > either dead or in jail.
> >
> >
> 
> Yeah, but the idea of them starting TM was funny.  TM might give
> Nugent a better aim. ;-)
>

Even funnier would be them speaking in that soft, breathy way that hardcore 
Movement types do. 

In any event, we now return you to our regularly scheduled Psychological 
Brassica Napus.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL

[Share Long]

Ok, I admit it!  I admit it!  I laughed at this, at all those p words.  Keep up 
the good work ranting, raving, roaring, rambunctious, raucus, riddled and 
rapaciously ravenous Ravi!

PS  I only added rapaciously because Ravi once expressed disappointment that 
I've never accused him of psychological rape and what the heck, rapaciously 
kind of sounds like the R word.

PS2  Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are mostly unable to 
laugh at themselves.  And if they're not having fun, they don't want anyone 
else to have fun either!  




 From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
 


  
Yes, you got it right Steve baby this is how I sometimes choose to respond to 
attention sluts (thanks Barry baby) who have nothing intelligent, honest, 
creative to say.

Have something intelligent to say - I'm all ears baby.

Did you read the post by Emily - beautiful isn't it?

No Share Long-ish pathetic, phony, passive-aggressive, pitta-deranged, 
paranoid, platitude puking there.


On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:37 PM, "seventhray27"  wrote:


  
>Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought.  Since you always, pretty 
>much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as you have been 
>doing.
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>>
>> Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive
>> posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be -
>> is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in?
>> 
>> Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my
>> complete attention to it, I promise.
>> 
>> Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence -
>> anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me
>> something Steve baby.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote:
>> 
>> > **
>> >
>> >
>> > Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid
>> > posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a
>> > little more.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive
>> > > posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you
>> > be -
>> > > is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are
>> > in?
>> > >
>> > > Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my
>> > > complete attention to it, I promise.
>> > >
>> > > Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence -
>> > > anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give
>> > me
>> > > something Steve baby.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...:
>> > >
>> > > > **
>> >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should
>> > have
>> > > > a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up
>> > > > again.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching
>> > > > for Sal.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you.
>> > Please
>> > > > feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics
>> > of
>> > > > which of the following
>> > > > >
>> > > > > a) Phony
>> > > > > b) Passive-aggressive
>> > > > > c) Platitude puking
>> > > > > d) Pitta-putrefied
>> > > > > e) Paranoid
>> > > > > d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b)
>> > > > > g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d)
>> > > > > h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a)
>> > > > > i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a)
>> > > > > j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b)
>> > > > > h) Any of the above
>> > > > > k) All of the above
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in
>> > > > you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your
>> > > > chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Love,
>> > > > > Ravi
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious
>> > and
>> > > > otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your
>> > > > Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that
>> > photo is
>> > > > what's really important in life.
>> > > > > > love,
>> > > > > > Share
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
>> > > >
>> > > > > > To: 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life

[Michael Jackson]

Chuck Norris' high water mark was when he lent his likeness to the Blizzard 
games people to do television advertisements for World of Warcraft 




 From: Alex Stanley 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:19 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Just wait until Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent start TM.

Not likely. Chuck is a fundie jeebus nutter, and The Nuge is either dead or in 
jail.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chuck Norris Larger than Life

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Chuck Norris' high water mark was when he lent his likeness to the Blizzard 
> games people to do television advertisements for World of Warcraft 

This must be Nujo's finest hour:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiYyHNgeFA8

Nice of them to let him out of the asylum to do gigs.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[srijau]

This is several types of nonsense. 
A Maharishi is not a celibate person.
 The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he 
ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. Otherewise 
being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same reasons to be 
celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have dropped the Bal 
Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about himself due to his 
characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message is very consistent 
from his earliest writings to his last, always stating that truly life is bliss 
and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all Mankind. 
You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he 
appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way 
taken from somewhere else.
Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. No-one 
has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious day by 
day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and has kept 
themselves informed.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much 
> of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, 
> Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on.
> 
> So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like 
> Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice 
> celibacy.
> 
> If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of 
> consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss.
> 
> 
> ---  doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a 
> > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two 
> > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael!   
> > 
> > ---  Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at 
> > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our 
> > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding 
> > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: merlin 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > > to at-risk Youth
> > > 
> > > __*___
> > > 
> > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@...  wrote:
>
> This is several types of nonsense. 

Thanks for the warning I shall read no further. We should all be
so helpful. 

> A Maharishi is not a celibate person.
>  The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he 
> ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. 
> Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same 
> reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have 
> dropped the Bal Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about 
> himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message 
> is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating 
> that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all 
> Mankind. 
> You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he 
> appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way 
> taken from somewhere else.
> Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. 
> No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious 
> day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and 
> has kept themselves informed.
 

[FairfieldLife] Getting Groovy at the Godless Church.

[salyavin808]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNn-9hw2YCc

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[feste37]

Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his 
life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? 
Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one 
from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern 
> - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, 
> and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn out like 
> these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they would then 
> take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: merlin 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
> TM to 1M at-risk Youth
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> to at-risk Youth
> 
> __*___
> 
> http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:

> Sure you do, otherwise why all this posturing on your part? If you
"don't see her letting anyone mess with her" why all this fuss from your
side? And then how could she have possibly been "psychologically raped"?
Riddle me that one Stevie.

Oops too late.  Here how it works Ann.  Fuck me once, shame on you. 
Fuck me twice, shame on me.

Is that clear enough?

  On second thought, don't.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[Michael Jackson]

Well, I really couldn't let this one pass without comment.

As Barry has stated a time or two, it never ceases to amaze how true believers 
will make excuses for the guru's bullshit no matter what they do. And as I have 
said it is because somewhere in the recesses of their minds they identify 
themselves with the enlightened state via their association with the guru and 
their fabulous teachings - in other words, if they accept that the guru is a 
flawed human being and even a criminal then their own self identity begins to 
crumble.

I personally find it to be the height of arrogance to believe that Marshy was 
head and shoulders above any and all other spiritual teachers, including the 
ones from India.

The flaw in your premise srijau, is that you believe that Marshy was 
enlightened - can't blame Marshy for that since to my knowledge he never said 
he was, blame that on everyone's gullibility and willingness to assume facts 
not in evidence.

And to paraphrase your last statement, it should be apparent to any intelligent 
person who can think clearly that what Marshy gave the world was a good old 
fashioned screwing - I will give him this, he was the most successful con 
artist of the 20th century.

And any intelligent person should be able to see from the governmental 
dysfunction that exists world wide and the carnage and destruction that exists 
worldwide militarily, economically and pollution-wise that TM and especially 
yogic flying have not done a damn thing to make the world better, unless you 
want to fall back on the ridiculous argument of "Awww, no tellin' how bad off 
we would be if we hadn't had some TMSP all these years!" 



 From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
TM to 1M at-risk Youth
 


  
This is several types of nonsense. 
A Maharishi is not a celibate person.
The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he ever 
had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. Otherewise 
being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same reasons to be 
celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have dropped the Bal 
Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about himself due to his 
characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message is very consistent 
from his earliest writings to his last, always stating that truly life is bliss 
and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all Mankind. 
You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he 
appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way 
taken from somewhere else.
Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. No-one 
has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious day by 
day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and has kept 
themselves informed.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much 
> of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, 
> Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on.
> 
> So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like 
> Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice 
> celibacy.
> 
> If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of 
> consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss.
> 
> 
> ---  doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a 
> > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two 
> > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! 
> > 
> > ---  Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at 
> > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our 
> > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding 
> > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: merlin 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > > to at-risk Youth
> > > 
> > > __*___
> > > 
> > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> > >
> >
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[Michael Jackson]

How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know Brand 
doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM?




 From: feste37 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
TM to 1M at-risk Youth
 


  
Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his 
life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? 
Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one 
from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern 
> - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, 
> and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn out like 
> these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they would then 
> take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: merlin 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
> TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> to at-risk Youth
> 
> __*___
> 
> http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[feste37]

They're fine. What's wrong with them? What's with your desire to attack every 
TM person you can think of? Why do you have this obsession with condemning 
other people's behavior? What do you even know about their behavior?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know 
> Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his 
> life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? 
> Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease 
> one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, 
> > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn 
> > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they 
> > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: merlin 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
> > TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > to at-risk Youth
> > 
> > __*___
> > 
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song

[Ravi Chivukula]

Hilarious stuff Curtis - ever ready for your hypocritical, malicious,
devious spin aren't you?

First off it was should have been quite clear that I was allowing freedom
for artistic expression yet not supporting it as a prescription, not
supporting the incredible lengths you go to support derogatory references
to women and gang-rape.

What makes you spin me as an Indian Sean Hannity and not an artist - an
Indian stand up? Why not allow for my artistic, provocative expression
similar to how you defend artistic expressions of gang-rape and derogatory
objectification of women?

Why did your hypocritical ass not defend my attack on Indians? It's
probably not in line with your racist, Hindu-bashing White ass is it?

Remember Curtis baby - I can play your game better than you.



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:44 AM, curtisdeltablues <
curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking
> > forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my feelings on
> > it.
> >
> > It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic,
> > entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very
> > misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women,
>
> Spin? To what end? To protect the author of a song long dead? We are
> interpreting art Ravi. Even if you see the last scene as a rape it
> expresses none of the things you claim, it would simply just be a reporting
> of a tragedy. The writer isn't condoning the behavior, he is reporting what
> happened and we are left to decide what exactly IS happening. But all those
> value judgement you are Raunchy are projecting on the story are bogus IMO.
>
>
>  > hard for me to interpret the lyrics as anything but gang rape - I don't
> > see, have never heard of any woman in any culture trying to get back at a
> > man by sleeping with multiple men at the same time regardless of men's
> > fantasies.>
>
> And you are welcome to your interpretation and your naivete about some
> women.
>
> >
> > Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their
> > heart-centeredness
>
> Some of them are actually very well spoken as well as clean. (sometimes)
>
>
> - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't
> > suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for
> a
> > yuppie audience>
>
> Uh oh I recognize this wind-up from Fox News...
>
>
> < I will say that most of the culture is very crude,
> > misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that
> > enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to
> have
> > multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass
> > languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman.>
>
> Hey Raunchy isn't it cute to hear Sean Hannity with an Indian accent?
> Completely adorable!
>
> BTW Ravi, which specific black people are you accusing of this behavior,
> or if you are accusing it in a more broad sense what percentage of black
> people do you think fall into this category of men who force their women to
> have more children for the welfare money while they are in prison?
>
> But don't sweat it, the umbridge committee wont touch this, you are
> completely safe here.
>
> So cute!
>
>
> <
> Fine to be
> > sexist, misogynistic as an artistic expression in music, movie for
> > entertainment but surely not a prescription for a modern, liberal,
> > sophisticated society.>
>
> So art needs to be a prescription for society? Why are you imposing this
> idiotic standard on artistic expression? And how exactly would reporting on
> a scene of a gang rape be a form of misogyny? The guy describes the scene
> with one guy trying to tear his kingdom down through this act. You thought
> this might be useful in Curtis bashing just as Raunchy did (hey thanks for
> the sincere apology for your ridiculous nasty judgmental comments about me
> before you pulled your head out and got a clue what the discussion was
> about, c'est la vie, right?
>
> Ravi you really should stick to your drive by tourrettes trolling. The
> more you write the more the real you shows up.
>
> >
> > I love India and Hinduism but I will the first one to condemn it as a
> > misogynistic culture, trust me it was no fun watching a woman struggle to
> > raise kids all the while being taunted, abused by the narrow minded Hindu
> > culture - why? Because she went against the society's norms and dared to
> > have a boy friend - while it's OK for men to cheat secretly and indulge
> in
> > all kinds of repressed, perverted sexual practices.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:28 PM, raunchydog  wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Raunchy, I think Curtis is correct in his interpretation, in terms of
> > > historical context and what the author of those lyrics was in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:43 AM, seventhray27 wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> > Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality -
> > virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault
> was
> > my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains
> as
> > stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a
> > fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I
> > say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love
> my
> > ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her
> > delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal
> (well
> > except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least
> one
> > of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and
> empathetic I
> > will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind
> > you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to
> learn
> > empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I
> said
> > courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to
> > learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex
> was
> > my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light.
>
> Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven
> different ways she may want to perform oral sex?
>

Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to
keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic
and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, clearly you
are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You
have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between
raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play
along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context
of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted
by her. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in
real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty.

You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going
paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women.


>
> >
> > Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some
> > relief.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't
> have
> > > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to
> pay
> > > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the "gang
> rape"
> > > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to
> > > showing
> > > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could
> have
> > > been
> > > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was
> enjoying
> > > be
> > > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is a
> > > humorous and
> > > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree.
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that
> affect.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden
> > > messages
> > > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be
> > > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume
> > > incorrectly
> > > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you
> - no
> > > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my
> post
> > > back
> > > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang rape"
> > > reminded
> > > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word
> rape and
> > > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just
> > > riffin' -
> > > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my
> > > tendency to
> > > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as
> I do
> > > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting
> song
> > > and
> > > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation
> - by
> > > > > you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this
> forum.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > > > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM
> > > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR
> me?
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It

[FairfieldLife] The Oneness of the Difference Part 4 [1 Attachment]

[Rick Archer]

 

The Oneness of the Difference, Part 4

Reactive Mix

by Shiva Kavi

 

I went to my favorite coffee house today and heard the most enlightened
waitress speaking to a transcendentalist who was greatly advanced in wisdom.
Another friend of mine was also there, and we spoke about the tardiness of
Spring this year, and of my transplanting wild fruit tree from the midst of
my small forest to the visible edge, where we humans might enjoy their
colorful flowers and tasty fruits. But since I do not know much about the
appearance and nature of these trees, I am not yet ready to identify which I
have transplanted: whether wild plum or cherry, walnut, hickory, or berry
bush. Time will bring all things to death or to fruition, and then we shall
taste the fruits, which wisdom admonishes us to offer first for the pleasure
of the Lord, Who creates all things for our benefit, and Whose remembrance
expands the pleasure and the bliss of existence.

 

Two other friends, already mentioned, were present, one of whom I shall call
Parama Dasi, the Supreme Waitress, and her companion, the learned
transcendentalist, and they were talking at the table next to the one where
I sat and spoke with my friend; and reminding him that he had work which he
told me he needed to complete, we parted company, promising to meet again at
Dalby Hall, at the Maharishi University of Management (
 www.MUM.edu) for the evening's lecture on levitation
in various religious traditions. Shifting my attention to the conversation
at the adjacent table, I intruded on a matter of mutual interest the
specifics of which have escaped my Kali Yuga memory (the iron age or quarrel
and hypocrisy is full of forgetfulness).

 

I explained in other words what I have already set forth in the introduction
to this work. Then we moved on to discuss another concern regarding the
nature of tolerance and intolerance among various traditions. As an informal
follower of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami and the Hare Krishna movement, I am
feel deeply hurt and diminished by the policy in the meditation domes which
excludes supporters of other gurus in other Vedic traditions from
participating in the grant given to the Invincible America Assembly course.
Supporters of other gurus are not allowed to receive this grant, and if
anyone on the grant is caught organizing for Amma or Hare Krishna, or such,
they could lose their dome badge. A follower of Western faiths, however, has
no such restrictions. One can organize for Easter, Hanukah or Ramadan, but
not for Amma's upcoming visit to Cedar Rapids, local Hare Krishna sankirtan,
or other Vedic traditions connected with a charismatic leader other than the
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 

 

I am empathic with this policy, but I desire some adjustment.

 

The gentleman, whose name I don't recall, and which I have not asked
permission to reveal, very politely and reasonably pointed out to me that
the Maharishi has the right to maintain the purity of the experiment. I
certainly can respect this point of view. The intention seems to be that
only those who regard the the Maharishi and his presentation of Vedic
understanding as supreme should participate in the grant. If someone is
thinking that some other guru or Vedic understanding is equal to or greater
than the understanding which the Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation
reveal, his mind and physiology will vibrate differently than someone for
whom they are All in All. That is a natural fact. 

 

I gave the example, from a layman's point of view, that if you have a
plutonium reactor, you wouldn't want someone to introduce iron or
Einsteinium without your knowledge, if at all. Unfortunately there are some
serious problems with this policy of exclusion, as there always are in any
great undertaking, and I am personally affected by them in a variety of
ways. 

 

I want to point out at this time that I am a supporter and admirer of the
Maharishi and TM. My wife is a siddha, and has been on the IA course. We
have opened our home in Louisiana many times to local TM teachers for
program and instruction. I was privileged to run for office for the Natural
Law Party in Louisiana in 1996 and 2000, and did much background work and
made several public appearances on the party's behalf. Only those who were
very close to me knew that I was personally involved with the Hare Krishna
movement, and I presented the NLP platform as it was, strictly from the
presentations given on the Internet and at the forums I attended.

 

But if my wife cooks for the Sunday Hare Krishna dinner I organize at my
home here in Fairfield, IA, she is not eligible for the IA course grant. If
she helps me by inviting guests, she is violating a published bylaw of dome
behavior. Of course, I know that, since she is my wife, and we are both
supportive of TM, that this will be accepted without challenge. But what if
a friend on the course grant wants to help me? That presents a conflict
which will throw up some red fla

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[Michael Jackson]

Wrong again in your attack on me. I do not attack every TM person I can think 
of - I don't  the TM people here on this FFL, nor Oprah, nor Ellen D, nor Jerry 
Seinfeld nor Clint Eastwood - so your assertion is incorrect.

Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his 
assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has made 
makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it was 
given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women and 
grisly twisted crap.

Stern - all you have to do is listen to his sexist racist crap to know what he 
spews over the airwaves, but I know you have to like their junk cuz they are TM 
people and we know that whatever TM people do is always good - not sure how 
that works out with people like the TM faculty member who was recently fired 
for trading sex for grades and money - but I am sure those gals who were on 
their backs knew something good was happening!




 From: feste37 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
TM to 1M at-risk Youth
 


  
They're fine. What's wrong with them? What's with your desire to attack every 
TM person you can think of? Why do you have this obsession with condemning 
other people's behavior? What do you even know about their behavior?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know 
> Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his 
> life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? 
> Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease 
> one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, 
> > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn 
> > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they 
> > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: merlin 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
> > TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > to at-risk Youth
> > 
> > __*___
> > 
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[feste37]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Wrong again in your attack on me. I do not attack every TM person I can think 
> of - I don't  the TM people here on this FFL, nor Oprah, nor Ellen D, nor 
> Jerry Seinfeld nor Clint Eastwood - so your assertion is incorrect.
> 
> Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his 
> assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has 
> made makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it 
> was given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women 
> and grisly twisted crap.
> 
> Stern - all you have to do is listen to his sexist racist crap to know what 
> he spews over the airwaves, but I know you have to like their junk cuz they 
> are TM people and we know that whatever TM people do is always good - not 
> sure how that works out with people like the TM faculty member who was 
> recently fired for trading sex for grades and money - but I am sure those 
> gals who were on their backs knew something good was happening!


The only person on this forum who ever says this ("whatever TM people do is 
always good") is you. So this is all a straw-man argument on your part.



> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
>  
> 
> 
>   
> They're fine. What's wrong with them? What's with your desire to attack every 
> TM person you can think of? Why do you have this obsession with condemning 
> other people's behavior? What do you even know about their behavior?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know 
> > Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: feste37 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn 
> > his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does 
> > himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent 
> > or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at 
> > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our 
> > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding 
> > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: merlin 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > > to at-risk Youth
> > > 
> > > __*___
> > > 
> > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Starbucks is in trouble!

[Bhairitu]

I just came back from my morning walk, hanging out at Starbucks patio 
chatting with friends then shopping the farmers market on the street in 
front.  Bought a basket of very fresh local strawberries for $2.   Ummm!

Anyway I had noticed that the Safeway which is on the way back from my 
house had a Seattle's Best coffee kiosk set up but not yet running the 
other day.  So on my way stopped got a small dark roast out of it for 
$1.  Larges are $1.50.  The roast is ground in the machine then brewed 
as a press coffee comparable to Starbucks quick "Clover" brew which is 
90 cents more than a regular espresso there.

Early summer day here with the highs in the 80s.  This is why I moved to 
California.

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[Bhairitu]

And Girish is probably already looking at plans for his new palace. ;-)

On 04/28/2013 04:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern 
> - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, 
> and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn out like 
> these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they would then 
> take a pass on TM - wise decision!
>
>
>
> 
>   From: merlin 
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
> TM to 1M at-risk Youth
>   
>
>
>
>
> David Lynch and Russell Brand
> Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> to at-risk Youth
>
> __*___
>
> http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
>
>
>
>   

[FairfieldLife] Clam Chowder

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

Archer-Alexander Cookware Recipes

CLAM CHOWDER

4 cups samskaras (the clams) in shells

2 cups meditation

3 cups stock (boil nabuloss, doctordumbass, 
  bhairitu, laughinggul08, raunchydog, 
  seventhray27 and other similar ingredients 
  in water until reduced to 1/3. Do not 
  eliminate any of these ingredients 
  or broth will be tepid and lack character.

1/2 cup maskedzebra (to loosen the clams and for 
intensifying the flavour of each clam, 
substitute for monosodium glutamate as nothing 
that is only mono, or one, functions with this 
ingredient)

1 cup minced sharelong60 (careful when prepping 
  to avoid tears in eyes)

1 cup awoelflebater (for texture)

2 cups emilymae.reyn (for thickness and body, 
  and texture with a touch of sweetness)

3/4 cup bleached, white anartaxius (nondescript, 
flavourless thickener, also a substitute for 
Valium if stressed while cooking)

1/2 cup wayback71 for smoothness.

1/4 tsp raviyogi (substitute for cayenne pepper)

1 oz authfriend (for tartness, replaces vinegar)

2 tbs curtisdeltablues (to fry and keep ingredients 
  from sticking in a particular context in the pot)

---

1. Soak samskaras in maskezebra until 
   free of shells. Discard any unsuitable 
   ones, perhaps all.

2. Fry sharelong60 and awoelflebater in 
   curtisdeltablues over turquoiseb at high heat. 

3. Stir in anartaxius to distribute evenly, 
   add the juice from the sanskaras, 
   add emilymae.reyn, raviyogi, and authfriend 
   (use the last two sparingly or soup will 
   be unpalitable, but do not leave out.

4. Add the two cups meditation, and stir over 
   turquoiseb at high heat until flash point. 

5. Then reduce heat (turquoiseb will turn off 
   automatically in most cases); wisk in the 
   wayback71 and stir until smooth.
   
6. let simmer until the emilymae.reyn is tender 
   but not too soft. 
   
6. Add the samskaras if any remain and cook 
   until firm. 

7. If a touch of bitterness is desired, add a 
   touch of mjackson74 before serving.

8. For a more traditional appearance, garnish 
   with dhamiltony2k5, and watch your language 
   when serving.

Final appearance will be a thick white soup with dark patches of samskaras. If 
the samskaras are eaten first, the remaining product will be a uniform, white 
flowing liquid, with few lumps remaining except for a bit of crunch from the 
awoelflebater.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[Ravi Chivukula]

Thank you dear Ann - yes you are absolutely right, she indeed ,
inadvertently became my Guru. In fact even though I spent a lot of time in
Amma's cult I never formed any delusional fantasies on Amma as the Guru or
the divine Mother. My crime, apparently was that I wanted to love my ex and
was willing to do anything to understand her, to change myself so she could
understand my love for her - which turned out to be a futile exercise - in
terms of making her understand but a tremendous transformation in her. As I
was telling my friend - 10 years after my marriage one day I realized I was
a dramatically different person yet she remained as stunted as she was if
not worse.

It's a funny comparison with whole of Amma's cult - here everyone's trapped
in a religious, delusional fantasy around her as the Guru, as the divine
Mother and there I was, just trying to love my ex. I transcended whereas
they all remain stunted. How ironical?

Steve doesn't spend any effort and intelligence understanding the entire
context of any given situation - his posts are just careless, reactive,
frivolous posts and now he has really turned into an obnoxious,moronic
troll. He always latches on to my posts, there's nothing much I can do make
him stop acting like, as Barry would say, an attention vampire. He has
gotten worse since he latched on to that phony, passive-aggressive Share
and now he has to defend at her any cost - even if comes at the expense of
his intelligence and integrity. Contrast his behavior with women here who
unlike Share are mature, intelligent and strong.



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Ann  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this
> forum. "
> > > >
> > > > I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend
> over
> > > > backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway.
> > >
> > > You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women
> > > in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world.
> But
> > > of course, as you so often say, "the fault was all on my ex"
> > >
> >
> > Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality -
> > virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault
> was
> > my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains
> as
> > stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a
> > fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I
> > say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love
> my
> > ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her
> > delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal
> (well
> > except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least
> one
> > of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and
> empathetic I
> > will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind
> > you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to
> learn
> > empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I
> said
> > courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to
> > learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex
> was
> > my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light.
> >
> > Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some
> > relief.
>
> Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal
> in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick
> all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a
> silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the
> insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer
> than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good
> way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't
> think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power
> to you Rav.
>
> And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more
> empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because
> you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my
> experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person,
> more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience
> (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't
> have
> > > > > even oc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clam Chowder

[Ravi Chivukula]

Hilarious dear Xeno.

This is where the human being Xeno comes through - a very rare glimpse (IMO
- your only human posts have come in response to mine in the past).

As Robin might say we get to see the real Xeno, severed from his
philosophy, his platitudes, his pseudo-Eastern religious garbage.



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius <
anartax...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Archer-Alexander Cookware Recipes
>
> CLAM CHOWDER
>
> 4 cups samskaras (the clams) in shells
>
> 2 cups meditation
>
> 3 cups stock (boil nabuloss, doctordumbass,
> bhairitu, laughinggul08, raunchydog,
> seventhray27 and other similar ingredients
> in water until reduced to 1/3. Do not
> eliminate any of these ingredients
> or broth will be tepid and lack character.
>
> 1/2 cup maskedzebra (to loosen the clams and for
> intensifying the flavour of each clam,
> substitute for monosodium glutamate as nothing
> that is only mono, or one, functions with this
> ingredient)
>
> 1 cup minced sharelong60 (careful when prepping
> to avoid tears in eyes)
>
> 1 cup awoelflebater (for texture)
>
> 2 cups emilymae.reyn (for thickness and body,
> and texture with a touch of sweetness)
>
> 3/4 cup bleached, white anartaxius (nondescript,
> flavourless thickener, also a substitute for
> Valium if stressed while cooking)
>
> 1/2 cup wayback71 for smoothness.
>
> 1/4 tsp raviyogi (substitute for cayenne pepper)
>
> 1 oz authfriend (for tartness, replaces vinegar)
>
> 2 tbs curtisdeltablues (to fry and keep ingredients
> from sticking in a particular context in the pot)
>
> ---
>
> 1. Soak samskaras in maskezebra until
> free of shells. Discard any unsuitable
> ones, perhaps all.
>
> 2. Fry sharelong60 and awoelflebater in
> curtisdeltablues over turquoiseb at high heat.
>
> 3. Stir in anartaxius to distribute evenly,
> add the juice from the sanskaras,
> add emilymae.reyn, raviyogi, and authfriend
> (use the last two sparingly or soup will
> be unpalitable, but do not leave out.
>
> 4. Add the two cups meditation, and stir over
> turquoiseb at high heat until flash point.
>
> 5. Then reduce heat (turquoiseb will turn off
> automatically in most cases); wisk in the
> wayback71 and stir until smooth.
>
> 6. let simmer until the emilymae.reyn is tender
> but not too soft.
>
> 6. Add the samskaras if any remain and cook
> until firm.
>
> 7. If a touch of bitterness is desired, add a
> touch of mjackson74 before serving.
>
> 8. For a more traditional appearance, garnish
> with dhamiltony2k5, and watch your language
> when serving.
>
> Final appearance will be a thick white soup with dark patches of
> samskaras. If the samskaras are eaten first, the remaining product will be
> a uniform, white flowing liquid, with few lumps remaining except for a bit
> of crunch from the awoelflebater.
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you
have to
> keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be
empathetic
> and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women,

uh, wasn't a request Ravi.  More a demand IIRC.  Why don't you bring it
up again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to
you.

clearly you
> are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration.
You
> have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between
> raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not
play
> along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire
context
> of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was
accepted
> by her.

That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors.  We saw
it again today.

I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in
> real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty.



> You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going
> paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you
some
> > > relief.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way.
Wouldn't
> > have
> > > > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked
me to
> > pay
> > > > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the
"gang
> > rape"
> > > > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it,
prior to
> > > > showing
> > > > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song
could
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was
> > enjoying
> > > > be
> > > > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is
a
> > > > humorous and
> > > > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to
that
> > affect.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any
hidden
> > > > messages
> > > > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like
to be
> > > > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others'
assume
> > > > incorrectly
> > > > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I
asked you
> > - no
> > > > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in
my
> > post
> > > > back
> > > > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang
rape"
> > > > reminded
> > > > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the
word
> > rape and
> > > > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was
just
> > > > riffin' -
> > > > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of
my
> > > > tendency to
> > > > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the
song, as
> > I do
> > > > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an
interesting
> > song
> > > > and
> > > > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a
misinterpretation
> > - by
> > > > > > you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on
this
> > forum.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > > > > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM
> > > > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying
to PR
> > me?
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But that distinction will not interest you because you are a
troll
> > and
> > > > > > your posting intentions are unfriendly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You think you are "getting" a person Judy does not like and
> > winning her
> > > > > > approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your
shallow
> > > > agenda.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > chivukula.ravi@
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing
> > empathy
> > > > but
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the
person
> > asking
> > > > these
> > > > > > > questions had no right to these feelings and/or was
irrational
> > for
> > > > even
> > > > > > > trying to communicate that, viz "I have no idea why you
write
> > any of
> > > > > > this"
> > > > > > > - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or
> 

[FairfieldLife] Free Man In Paris, v2.16

[turquoiseb]

While I was on the train back to Paris this afternoon, zooming along at
300+ kph, the guy in the next seat glanced over at my laptop screen and
asked what I was writing. Because he appeared in a talkative mood and I
was feeling anything but, I replied, "I'm not writing, I'm meditating."

That worked. He shut up and went to sleep, and I continued meditating.

The thing is, I wasn't entirely blowing him off. I *was* meditating,
because I was in the middle of writing something creative.

Creativity IS my favorite form of meditation these days. If this sounds
strange to those who only think of meditation as something you can do in
silence, with eyes closed, they either haven't been around the spiritual
block very much or they don't have any creative ideas, or both. I still
meditate the old way, but the form of meditation that gets me the
highest these days is when I'm writing something that triggers the
creative flow.

The thing I was writing this afternoon filled that bill just fine, thank
you. I had an idea for a short story while waiting for the train, and
following advice given to me many years ago by Ray Bradbury, I was
writing the idea down before it "got away." Ray was right on with that
advice. Creative ideas are like waves. You either catch them or you
don't. Wait too long after the idea first hits you, and it's
gone...you'll never be able to recapture the magic of it.

So I was writing it down, surfing it for all it was worth, while the
wave was still building. Later I can go back to it and, because I caught
the original wave, I might be able to turn it into an interesting story.
If I had waited until I got to Paris, I wouldn't have been able to. The
idea would have lost its energy and its magic because the *flow* of it
would no longer have been present.

Some may claim that this process isn't "really" meditation, but I beg to
differ with them. Getting out of the way and allowing the creative idea
to flow is (for me) the same process as getting out of the way and
allowing silence to flow. It's just that at the end of a regular
meditation session, all you've got to show for it is a smile on your
face. At the end of one of my writing meditation sessions, I've often
got a smile on my face *and* a story that I can sell somewhere. Such a
deal.

I know that Curtis will get this, as perhaps will a few others here.
Creativity is a real high. Those of us who spent many years on a
spiritual path, especially those who became teachers, know well the high
of taking ideas in from others and then parroting them out again. Even
if all you are doing *is* parroting, there's a high to it.

But it's a Whole Other High when the ideas are your own.,,

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> Thank you dear Ann - yes you are absolutely right, she indeed ,
> inadvertently became my Guru. In fact even though I spent a lot of
time in
> Amma's cult I never formed any delusional fantasies on Amma as the
Guru or
> the divine Mother. My crime, apparently was that I wanted to love my
ex and
> was willing to do anything to understand her, to change myself so she
could
> understand my love for her

Now, was that before, or after you made her declare five times that you
were to be her guru?

- which turned out to be a futile exercise - in
> terms of making her understand but a tremendous transformation in her.
As I
> was telling my friend - 10 years after my marriage one day I realized
I was
> a dramatically different person yet she remained as stunted as she was
if
> not worse.
>
> It's a funny comparison with whole of Amma's cult - here everyone's
trapped
> in a religious, delusional fantasy around her as the Guru, as the
divine
> Mother and there I was, just trying to love my ex. I transcended
whereas
> they all remain stunted. How ironical?
>
> Steve doesn't spend any effort and intelligence understanding the
entire
> context of any given situation - his posts are just careless,
reactive,
> frivolous posts and now he has really turned into an obnoxious,moronic
> troll. He always latches on to my posts, there's nothing much I can do
make
> him stop acting like, as Barry would say, an attention vampire. He has
> gotten worse since he latched on to that phony, passive-aggressive
Share
> and now he has to defend at her any cost - even if comes at the
expense of
> his intelligence and integrity. Contrast his behavior with women here
who
> unlike Share are mature, intelligent and strong.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on
this
> > forum. "
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do
bend
> > over
> > > > > backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway.
> > > >
> > > > You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of
women
> > > > in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D
world.
> > But
> > > > of course, as you so often say, "the fault was all on my ex"
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If
reality -
> > > virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the
fault
> > was
> > > my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she
remains
> > as
> > > stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's
just a
> > > fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just
because I
> > > say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still
love
> > my
> > > ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her
> > > delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my
equal
> > (well
> > > except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at
least
> > one
> > > of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and
> > empathetic I
> > > will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a
therapist mind
> > > you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself
to
> > learn
> > > empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as
me, I
> > said
> > > courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast
track to
> > > learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people
my ex
> > was
> > > my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light.
> > >
> > > Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you
some
> > > relief.
> >
> > Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something
personal
> > in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it
has dick
> > all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my
opinion, a
> > silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to
the
> > insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your
answer
> > than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is
a good
> > way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though
I don't
> > think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More
power
> > to you Rav.
> >
> > And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you
more
> > empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life
because
> > you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my
> > experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL

[Ravi Chivukula]

Oh what took so you so long dear Share - how pathetic, phony your laugh is
- this is the only way you can handle the dissonance of your behavior and
your perceived image of yours.

Once again - considering your disabilities, making it super-easy for you.

This response of yours displays which of the characteristics of the 5P's of
the pristine, pure, Purtian philosophy of The Share Long Paradigm (SLP)?

1) Phony
2) Passive-aggressive
3) Paranoid
4) Pitta-derangement
5) Platitude-puke

Love,
Ravi



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Share Long  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ok, I admit it!  I admit it!  I laughed at this, at all those p words.
> Keep up the good work ranting, raving, roaring, rambunctious, raucus,
> riddled and rapaciously ravenous Ravi!
>
> PS  I only added rapaciously because Ravi once expressed disappointment
> that I've never accused him of psychological rape and what the heck,
> rapaciously kind of sounds like the R word.
>
> PS2  Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are mostly
> unable to laugh at themselves.  And if they're not having fun, they don't
> want anyone else to have fun either!
>
>   --
>  *From:* Ravi Chivukula 
> *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
>
>
> Yes, you got it right Steve baby this is how I sometimes choose to respond
> to attention sluts (thanks Barry baby) who have nothing intelligent,
> honest, creative to say.
>
> Have something intelligent to say - I'm all ears baby.
>
> Did you read the post by Emily - beautiful isn't it?
>
> No Share Long-ish pathetic, phony, passive-aggressive, pitta-deranged,
> paranoid, platitude puking there.
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:37 PM, "seventhray27" 
> wrote:
>
>
> Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought.  Since you always,
> pretty much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as you
> have been doing.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive
> > posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you
> be -
> > is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are
> in?
> >
> > Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my
> > complete attention to it, I promise.
> >
> > Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence -
> > anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give
> me
> > something Steve baby.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous,
> stupid
> > > posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a
> > > little more.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless,
> reactive
> > > > posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can
> you
> > > be -
> > > > is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you
> are
> > > in?
> > > >
> > > > Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will
> give my
> > > > complete attention to it, I promise.
> > > >
> > > > Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence
> -
> > > > anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you -
> give
> > > me
> > > > something Steve baby.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They
> should
> > > have
> > > > > a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come
> up
> > > > > again.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err
> searching
> > > > > for Sal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you.
> > > Please
> > > > > feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your post referring to my grandmother below has the
> characteristics
> > > of
> > > > > which of the following
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a) Phony
> > > > > > b) Passive-aggressive
> > > > > > c) Platitude puking
> > > > > > d) Pitta-putrefied
> > > > > > e) Paranoid
> > > > > > d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b)
> > > > > > g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d)
> > > > > > h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a)
> > > > > > i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a)
> > > > > > j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b)
> > > > > > h) Any of the above
> > > > > > k) All of the above
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good an

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know 
> Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM?

George Harrison, who only did TM for about a year, claimed chanting
the Krishna mantra was the best thing he ever did and helped him
achieve the highest spiritual heights he ever experienced, and even
saved his life in preventing a plane crash (bit dubious about the
last bit personally).

Lennon, Jagger and most of the other class of '68 also took up
Krishna chanting after TM, with varying degrees of hysteria.


>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his 
> life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? 
> Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease 
> one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, 
> > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn 
> > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they 
> > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: merlin 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
> > TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > to at-risk Youth
> > 
> > __*___
> > 
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his 
> life around.>

He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM?



 Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, 
Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from 
somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, 
> > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn 
> > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they 
> > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: merlin 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring 
> > TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > to at-risk Youth
> > 
> > __*___
> > 
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL

[seventhray27]

Once again the Ravimeter indicates when a direct hit has been scored. 
But who knew that it would be proven so fast.

  Share: PS2 Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are
mostly
  unable to laugh at themselves. And if they're not having fun, they
don't
  want anyone else to have fun either!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> Oh what took so you so long dear Share - how pathetic, phony your
laugh is
> - this is the only way you can handle the dissonance of your behavior
and
> your perceived image of yours.
>
> Once again - considering your disabilities, making it super-easy for
you.
>
> This response of yours displays which of the characteristics of the
5P's of
> the pristine, pure, Purtian philosophy of The Share Long Paradigm
(SLP)?
>
> 1) Phony
> 2) Passive-aggressive
> 3) Paranoid
> 4) Pitta-derangement
> 5) Platitude-puke
>
> Love,
> Ravi
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Ok, I admit it! I admit it! I laughed at this, at all those p words.
> > Keep up the good work ranting, raving, roaring, rambunctious,
raucus,
> > riddled and rapaciously ravenous Ravi!
> >
> > PS I only added rapaciously because Ravi once expressed
disappointment
> > that I've never accused him of psychological rape and what the heck,
> > rapaciously kind of sounds like the R word.
> >
> > PS2 Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are mostly
> > unable to laugh at themselves. And if they're not having fun, they
don't
> > want anyone else to have fun either!
> >
> > --
> > *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
> > *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 PM
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on
FFL
> >
> >
> > Yes, you got it right Steve baby this is how I sometimes choose to
respond
> > to attention sluts (thanks Barry baby) who have nothing intelligent,
> > honest, creative to say.
> >
> > Have something intelligent to say - I'm all ears baby.
> >
> > Did you read the post by Emily - beautiful isn't it?
> >
> > No Share Long-ish pathetic, phony, passive-aggressive,
pitta-deranged,
> > paranoid, platitude puking there.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:37 PM, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@...
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought. Since you always,
> > pretty much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as
you
> > have been doing.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > >
> > > Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless,
reactive
> > > posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can
you
> > be -
> > > is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you
are
> > in?
> > >
> > > Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will
give my
> > > complete attention to it, I promise.
> > >
> > > Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and
intelligence -
> > > anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you
- give
> > me
> > > something Steve baby.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive,
frivolous,
> > stupid
> > > > posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that
theme a
> > > > little more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless,
> > reactive
> > > > > posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless
can
> > you
> > > > be -
> > > > > is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit
you
> > are
> > > > in?
> > > > >
> > > > > Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I
will
> > give my
> > > > > complete attention to it, I promise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and
intelligence
> > -
> > > > > anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg
you -
> > give
> > > > me
> > > > > something Steve baby.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet.
They
> > should
> > > > have
> > > > > > a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it
should come
> > up
> > > > > > again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking
err
> > searching
> > > > > > for Sal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Considering your disability I have made this real easy for
you.
> > > > Please
> > > > > > feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[Ravi Chivukula]

Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive
posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be -
is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in?

Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my
complete attention to it, I promise.

Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence -
anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me
something Steve baby.



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, seventhray27 wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have
> to
> > keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be
> empathetic
> > and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women,
>
> uh, wasn't a request Ravi.  More a demand IIRC.  Why don't you bring it up
> again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to you.
>
> clearly you
> > are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration.
> You
> > have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between
> > raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not
> play
> > along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire
> context
> > of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was
> accepted
> > by her.
>
> That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors.  We saw it
> again today.
>
> I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in
> > real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty.
>
>
> > You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going
> > paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you
> some
> > > > relief.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way.
> Wouldn't
> > > have
> > > > > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me
> to
> > > pay
> > > > > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the
> "gang
> > > rape"
> > > > > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior
> to
> > > > > showing
> > > > > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song
> could
> > > have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was
> > > enjoying
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is a
> > > > > humorous and
> > > > > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that
> > > affect.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any
> hidden
> > > > > messages
> > > > > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to
> be
> > > > > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume
> > > > > incorrectly
> > > > > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked
> you
> > > - no
> > > > > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my
> > > post
> > > > > back
> > > > > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang rape"
> > > > > reminded
> > > > > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word
> > > rape and
> > > > > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just
> > > > > riffin' -
> > > > > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my
> > > > > tendency to
> > > > > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song,
> as
> > > I do
> > > > > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an
> interesting
> > > song
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a
> misinterpretation
> > > - by
> > > > > > > you?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this
> > > forum.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > > > > > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM
> > > > > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to
> PR
> > > me?
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But that distinction will not interest you because you are a
> troll
> > > and
> > > > > > > your posting intentions are unfr

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:

> 
> Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his 
> assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has 
> made makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it 
> was given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women 
> and grisly twisted crap.


One must be a really sick and twisted soul to read this into the films of David 
Lynch. As others have suggested, you seriously need professional help. 

Long before I knew he did TM it was obvious to me that his films are about the 
human struggle for dignity in a  mundane, violent and often depressing world. 
Often set in extreme situations his films capture in a very moving way the 
stuggle of individuals towards light, love and goodness.

"There is an invisible force that pulls men towards God" - Maharishi

Along with a few other masters of cinema Lynch visualize this process in a 
beautiful and touching way.

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?

[seventhray27]

I believe the phrase you are looking for to describe your response to
this and the previous posts I made regarding your behavior is,

  "No Contest"

It's all good Rav. It's all good.  We're all bozos on the bus.  Someone
is sure to befriend you and lead you in good directions.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless,
reactive
> posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you
be -
> is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are
in?
>
> Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give
my
> complete attention to it, I promise.
>
> Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence -
> anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you -
give me
> something Steve baby.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat -
you have
> > to
> > > keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be
> > empathetic
> > > and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women,
> >
> > uh, wasn't a request Ravi. More a demand IIRC. Why don't you bring
it up
> > again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to
you.
> >
> > clearly you
> > > are not having much luck in this area and expressing your
frustration.
> > You
> > > have tried many times to bring up references to the incident
between
> > > raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will
not
> > play
> > > along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire
> > context
> > > of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was
> > accepted
> > > by her.
> >
> > That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors. We
saw it
> > again today.
> >
> > I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in
> > > real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty.
> >
> >
> > > You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really
going
> > > paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide
you
> > some
> > > > > relief.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn
emilymae.reyn@wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > **
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this
way.
> > Wouldn't
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who
asked me
> > to
> > > > pay
> > > > > > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth
the
> > "gang
> > > > rape"
> > > > > > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it,
prior
> > to
> > > > > > showing
> > > > > > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the
song
> > could
> > > > have
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman
was
> > > > enjoying
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase),
which is a
> > > > > > humorous and
> > > > > > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented
to that
> > > > affect.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been
any
> > hidden
> > > > > > messages
> > > > > > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I
like to
> > be
> > > > > > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others'
assume
> > > > > > incorrectly
> > > > > > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I
asked
> > you
> > > > - no
> > > > > > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was
embedded in my
> > > > post
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now -
"gang rape"
> > > > > > reminded
> > > > > > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use
the word
> > > > rape and
> > > > > > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I
was just
> > > > > > riffin' -
> > > > > > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal
of my
> > > > > > tendency to
> > > > > > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the
truth.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the
song,
> > as
> > > > I do
> > > > > > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an
> > interesting
> > > > song
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a
> > misinterpretation
> > > > - by
> > > > > > > > you?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies
on this
> > > > forum.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[sparaig]

Whatever happened with good ole Girish, anyway?

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> And Girish is probably already looking at plans for his new palace. ;-)
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Free Man In Paris, v2.16

[Bhairitu]

On 04/28/2013 01:32 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
> While I was on the train back to Paris this afternoon, zooming along at
> 300+ kph, the guy in the next seat glanced over at my laptop screen and
> asked what I was writing. Because he appeared in a talkative mood and I
> was feeling anything but, I replied, "I'm not writing, I'm meditating."
>
> That worked. He shut up and went to sleep, and I continued meditating.
>
> The thing is, I wasn't entirely blowing him off. I *was* meditating,
> because I was in the middle of writing something creative.
>
> Creativity IS my favorite form of meditation these days. If this sounds
> strange to those who only think of meditation as something you can do in
> silence, with eyes closed, they either haven't been around the spiritual
> block very much or they don't have any creative ideas, or both. I still
> meditate the old way, but the form of meditation that gets me the
> highest these days is when I'm writing something that triggers the
> creative flow.
>
> The thing I was writing this afternoon filled that bill just fine, thank
> you. I had an idea for a short story while waiting for the train, and
> following advice given to me many years ago by Ray Bradbury, I was
> writing the idea down before it "got away." Ray was right on with that
> advice. Creative ideas are like waves. You either catch them or you
> don't. Wait too long after the idea first hits you, and it's
> gone...you'll never be able to recapture the magic of it.
>
> So I was writing it down, surfing it for all it was worth, while the
> wave was still building. Later I can go back to it and, because I caught
> the original wave, I might be able to turn it into an interesting story.
> If I had waited until I got to Paris, I wouldn't have been able to. The
> idea would have lost its energy and its magic because the *flow* of it
> would no longer have been present.
>
> Some may claim that this process isn't "really" meditation, but I beg to
> differ with them. Getting out of the way and allowing the creative idea
> to flow is (for me) the same process as getting out of the way and
> allowing silence to flow. It's just that at the end of a regular
> meditation session, all you've got to show for it is a smile on your
> face. At the end of one of my writing meditation sessions, I've often
> got a smile on my face *and* a story that I can sell somewhere. Such a
> deal.
>
> I know that Curtis will get this, as perhaps will a few others here.
> Creativity is a real high. Those of us who spent many years on a
> spiritual path, especially those who became teachers, know well the high
> of taking ideas in from others and then parroting them out again. Even
> if all you are doing *is* parroting, there's a high to it.
>
> But it's a Whole Other High when the ideas are your own.,,

Not to mention that some people (namely media executives) seem to think 
that one can turn on creativity just like one can turn a light off and 
on.  People go through creative periods and through dry periods, know to 
writers as "writer's block" but not exclusive to writers but music 
composers and painters as well.  A creative process once started can 
make hours fly by without notice.  This even occurs with software 
development and I've always argued that good software developers would 
more like fine artists, in spurts, rather than in 9 to 5 hours.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song

[Ravi Chivukula]

Curtis baby - I think your faux self-righteous cloaked ass masquerading highly 
questionable honesty, integrity of yours has trouble understanding the 
difference between creative, provocative, expressions and its applicability to  
a normal daily life in a modern context.

I'm a patient man - take another shot at it. Read Raunchy's post again. I'm 
headed out but considering your disabilities I will definitely prepare a sample 
response on your behalf later.



On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:29 PM, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> wrote:
> >
> > Hilarious stuff Curtis - ever ready for your hypocritical, malicious,
> > devious spin aren't you?
> > 
> > First off it was should have been quite clear that I was allowing freedom
> > for artistic expression yet not supporting it as a prescription, not
> > supporting the incredible lengths you go to support derogatory references> 
> > to women and gang-rape.
> 
> What part of the song represents a derogatory reference to woman and gang 
> rape to you Ravi? Show me one line to support that interpretation. Even my 
> first graders know that they have to support their POV with a detail from the 
> text. Let's see if you can clear the first grade level bar for justifying 
> your POV about the song.
> 
> You have been mislead by watching Raunchy fly off the handle with her 
> projections onto the characters in the lyrics haven't you? You really don't 
> have anything in the actual words of the song to support this absurd 
> accusation.
> 
> > 
> > What makes you spin me as an Indian Sean Hannity and not an artist - an
> > Indian stand up?>
> 
> Well for one thing stand-up makes the audience laugh. If you were going for 
> laughter doing schtick on what a republican asshole would say about black 
> people you lacked a set-up as a minimum. 
> 
> So is that what you are claiming about your observations about black people 
> and their food stamp lov'n, baby factory ways? Was it a joke?
> 
> < Why not allow for my artistic, provocative expression
> > similar to how you defend artistic expressions of gang-rape and derogatory> 
> > objectification of women?>
> 
> You are too confused about too many things here to straighten anything out.  
> But again I give you the challenge to defend your accusations about the 
> purpose and meaning of the song from actual words FROM the song.
> 
> > 
> > Why did your hypocritical ass not defend my attack on Indians? It's
> > probably not in line with your racist, Hindu-bashing White ass is it?>
> 
> Why would I care how you think about Indians? I am not professionally 
> preserving Indian culture, I am preserving an aspect of black culture.  So 
> your idiotic statements about black people are more interesting to me. 
> 
> > 
> > Remember Curtis baby - I can play your game better than you.>
> 
> Ravi you haven't even cleared the bar of coherence, or the first grade level 
> of supporting your POV about a work of fiction with examples from the text. 
> Let's start there. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:44 AM, curtisdeltablues <
> > curtisdeltablues@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking
> > > > forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my feelings 
> > > > on
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic,
> > > > entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very
> > > > misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women,
> > >
> > > Spin? To what end? To protect the author of a song long dead? We are
> > > interpreting art Ravi. Even if you see the last scene as a rape it
> > > expresses none of the things you claim, it would simply just be a 
> > > reporting
> > > of a tragedy. The writer isn't condoning the behavior, he is reporting 
> > > what
> > > happened and we are left to decide what exactly IS happening. But all 
> > > those
> > > value judgement you are Raunchy are projecting on the story are bogus IMO.
> > >
> > >
> > >  > > > hard for me to interpret the lyrics as anything but gang rape - I don't
> > > > see, have never heard of any woman in any culture trying to get back at 
> > > > a
> > > > man by sleeping with multiple men at the same time regardless of men's
> > > > fantasies.>
> > >
> > > And you are welcome to your interpretation and your naivete about some
> > > women.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their
> > > > heart-centeredness
> > >
> > > Some of them are actually very well spoken as well as clean. (sometimes)
> > >
> > >
> > > - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't
> > > > suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for
> > > a
> > > > yuppie audience>
> > >
> > > Uh oh I recognize this wind-up from Fox News...
> > >
> > >
> > > < I wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Starbucks is in trouble!

[martyboi]

The main reason Sbucks is in trouble is that young people think it's where 
gramps goes to get a cup o' joe. The current trend is privately-owned, coffee 
shops with free super fast wifi - which is a probably good thing. Most don't 
seem to really care what the coffee tastes like as long as the joint is unique 
and all four genders are equally represented (gay, straight, mixed, neutral.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[doctordumbass]

Well said!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@...  wrote:
>
> This is several types of nonsense. 
> A Maharishi is not a celibate person.
>  The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he 
> ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. 
> Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same 
> reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have 
> dropped the Bal Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about 
> himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message 
> is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating 
> that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all 
> Mankind. 
> You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he 
> appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way 
> taken from somewhere else.
> Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. 
> No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious 
> day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and 
> has kept themselves informed.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much 
> > of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, 
> > Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on.
> > 
> > So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like 
> > Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice 
> > celibacy.
> > 
> > If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of 
> > consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss.
> > 
> > 
> > ---  doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a 
> > > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the 
> > > two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael!   
> > > 
> > > ---  Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at 
> > > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our 
> > > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding 
> > > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: merlin 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > > > to at-risk Youth
> > > > 
> > > > __*___
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape

[doctordumbass]

Thanks Em. Hoping to sell film rights from the outset, I decided our heroes 
*must* be the always reliable, "courageous band of misfits..." - lol.

RD, Love the limerick!!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Ah ha ha ha.  Dumbass, that is sooo funny.  Raunchy - I love it when you 
> wax poetic.  Excellent.  
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > From: raunchydog 
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:53 AM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
> > 
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >>
> >> Perhaps a deep seated fear that Robin will hold FFL hostage...for 
> >> ONE...MILLION...DOLLARS!!
> >> 
> >> I'm taking the book deal: 
> >> Titled, "Against Our Will? No Fucking Way!" - How a courageous band of 
> >> misfits turned the tables on the power structure at FFL, and lived to tell 
> >> about it, unscathed, except for the one who got grounded by his mom. 
> >> 
> >
> >The mollusk clam-up ever so comical
> >Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical
> >
> >But the share of his lunch
> >Was ate by a bunch
> >
> >Of wags making fun of his barnacles
> >
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I think Guru Zee Know may be hinting more Dr. Evil than Austin Powers?
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:36 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> >> > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > **
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Robin is beginning to sound like a cross between Freddy Kruger, and 
> >> > > Austin
> >> > > Powers.
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I think Guru Zee Know knows he has fucked up and now he has to double
> >> > > down
> >> > > > - "one's stuff ripped open forcefully" "one's dark stuff will flow 
> >> > > > like
> >> > > > blood in a massacre" - is Robin now like a vampire? WTF LOL.. Really 
> >> > > > Guru
> >> > > > Zee Know? Or is it just senility - Guru Zee Know's what about 80-81 
> >> > > > years
> >> > > > old? Or is it some fear of death?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:20 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> >> > > > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > **
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Yay!!!
> >> > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
> >> > > > >  wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part 
> >> > > > > > > > of
> >> > > > > Xeno's
> >> > > > > > > > analogy anyway.ÃÆ'‚ Now imagine our little clam not 
> >> > > > > > > > only having an
> >> > >
> >> > > > > evasively
> >> > > > > > > > prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with 
> >> > > > > > > > sharp
> >> > > > > claws
> >> > > > > > > > and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their 
> >> > > > > > > > acidy
> >> > > > > > > > tendrils.ÃÆ'‚ No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped 
> >> > > > > > > > a bomb on
> >> > > all of
> >> > > > > > > > them!ÃÆ'‚ Psychologically raped!ÃÆ'‚ Then a 
> >> > > > > > > > wonderful pod of dolphins
> >> > >
> >> > > > > arrived
> >> > > > > > > > and told our little clam that her bomb was on target.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was 
> >> > > > > > > imagining
> >> > > > > anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a
> >> > > generalised
> >> > > > > analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam 
> >> > > > > is
> >> > > > > attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why
> >> > > > > techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning
> >> > > everything
> >> > > > > tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff
> >> > > ripped
> >> > > > > open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow 
> >> > > > > like
> >> > > > > blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your 
> >> > > > > > stuff
> >> > > > > forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a
> >> > > massacre
> >> > > > > before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat 
> >> > > > > after
> >> > > me:
> >> > > > > "I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow
> >> > > it."
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song

[curtisdeltablues]

That's what I thought, you have not text support for you idiotic accusations 
about the song.

More tourettes trolling.

Hey let's get Judy to defend your position on black people's food stamp lov'n, 
baby making ways based on your ideas about creative evocative expressions. I'd 
like to know how it magically takes the racist views RIGHT off!

Are you up for explaining Ravi's point Judy?  He has already deferred to 
Raunchy on the song so maybe you can be his spokesperson for this:


Ravi being his adorable self, the l'll scamp!

 < I will say that most of the culture is very crude,
> misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that
> enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to have
> multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass
> languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman.>


I think it could use some of that much touted special brand of honesty you talk 
so much about.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Curtis baby - I think your faux self-righteous cloaked ass masquerading 
> highly questionable honesty, integrity of yours has trouble understanding the 
> difference between creative, provocative, expressions and its applicability 
> to  a normal daily life in a modern context.
> 
> I'm a patient man - take another shot at it. Read Raunchy's post again. I'm 
> headed out but considering your disabilities I will definitely prepare a 
> sample response on your behalf later.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:29 PM, "curtisdeltablues"  wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hilarious stuff Curtis - ever ready for your hypocritical, malicious,
> > > devious spin aren't you?
> > > 
> > > First off it was should have been quite clear that I was allowing freedom
> > > for artistic expression yet not supporting it as a prescription, not
> > > supporting the incredible lengths you go to support derogatory 
> > > references> to women and gang-rape.
> > 
> > What part of the song represents a derogatory reference to woman and gang 
> > rape to you Ravi? Show me one line to support that interpretation. Even my 
> > first graders know that they have to support their POV with a detail from 
> > the text. Let's see if you can clear the first grade level bar for 
> > justifying your POV about the song.
> > 
> > You have been mislead by watching Raunchy fly off the handle with her 
> > projections onto the characters in the lyrics haven't you? You really don't 
> > have anything in the actual words of the song to support this absurd 
> > accusation.
> > 
> > > 
> > > What makes you spin me as an Indian Sean Hannity and not an artist - an
> > > Indian stand up?>
> > 
> > Well for one thing stand-up makes the audience laugh. If you were going for 
> > laughter doing schtick on what a republican asshole would say about black 
> > people you lacked a set-up as a minimum. 
> > 
> > So is that what you are claiming about your observations about black people 
> > and their food stamp lov'n, baby factory ways? Was it a joke?
> > 
> > < Why not allow for my artistic, provocative expression
> > > similar to how you defend artistic expressions of gang-rape and 
> > > derogatory> objectification of women?>
> > 
> > You are too confused about too many things here to straighten anything out. 
> >  But again I give you the challenge to defend your accusations about the 
> > purpose and meaning of the song from actual words FROM the song.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Why did your hypocritical ass not defend my attack on Indians? It's
> > > probably not in line with your racist, Hindu-bashing White ass is it?>
> > 
> > Why would I care how you think about Indians? I am not professionally 
> > preserving Indian culture, I am preserving an aspect of black culture.  So 
> > your idiotic statements about black people are more interesting to me. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Remember Curtis baby - I can play your game better than you.>
> > 
> > Ravi you haven't even cleared the bar of coherence, or the first grade 
> > level of supporting your POV about a work of fiction with examples from the 
> > text. Let's start there. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:44 AM, curtisdeltablues <
> > > curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you dear raunchy - this is well stated, something I was looking
> > > > > forward, for you to say it this afternoon and in line with my 
> > > > > feelings on
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's perfectly natural for Curtis to give a spin from an artistic,
> > > > > entertainer perspective but the fact remains that the lyrics are very
> > > > > misogynistic, objectifying and degrading to women,
> > > >
> > > > Spin? To what end? To protect the author of a song long dead? We are
> > > > interpreting art Ravi. Even if you see the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Oneness of the Difference Part 4

[doctordumbass]

Shiva Kavi needs to recognize the domes are mission-specific. End of story. I 
have been in Fairfield before, and there is definitely an effect felt by any 
sensitive person, in the town, from all the meditation there. So the guy is not 
missing that much by not going to the domes. Its not really a civil rights 
issue either, since any private institution can have rules for membership. 
Sounds like Shiva K. wants a foot on each horse, but he is not that skillful a 
rider.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
>  
> 
> The Oneness of the Difference, Part 4
> 
> Reactive Mix
> 
> by Shiva Kavi
> 
>  
> 
> I went to my favorite coffee house today and heard the most enlightened
> waitress speaking to a transcendentalist who was greatly advanced in wisdom.
> Another friend of mine was also there, and we spoke about the tardiness of
> Spring this year, and of my transplanting wild fruit tree from the midst of
> my small forest to the visible edge, where we humans might enjoy their
> colorful flowers and tasty fruits. But since I do not know much about the
> appearance and nature of these trees, I am not yet ready to identify which I
> have transplanted: whether wild plum or cherry, walnut, hickory, or berry
> bush. Time will bring all things to death or to fruition, and then we shall
> taste the fruits, which wisdom admonishes us to offer first for the pleasure
> of the Lord, Who creates all things for our benefit, and Whose remembrance
> expands the pleasure and the bliss of existence.
> 
>  
> 
> Two other friends, already mentioned, were present, one of whom I shall call
> Parama Dasi, the Supreme Waitress, and her companion, the learned
> transcendentalist, and they were talking at the table next to the one where
> I sat and spoke with my friend; and reminding him that he had work which he
> told me he needed to complete, we parted company, promising to meet again at
> Dalby Hall, at the Maharishi University of Management (
>  www.MUM.edu) for the evening's lecture on levitation
> in various religious traditions. Shifting my attention to the conversation
> at the adjacent table, I intruded on a matter of mutual interest the
> specifics of which have escaped my Kali Yuga memory (the iron age or quarrel
> and hypocrisy is full of forgetfulness).
> 
>  
> 
> I explained in other words what I have already set forth in the introduction
> to this work. Then we moved on to discuss another concern regarding the
> nature of tolerance and intolerance among various traditions. As an informal
> follower of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami and the Hare Krishna movement, I am
> feel deeply hurt and diminished by the policy in the meditation domes which
> excludes supporters of other gurus in other Vedic traditions from
> participating in the grant given to the Invincible America Assembly course.
> Supporters of other gurus are not allowed to receive this grant, and if
> anyone on the grant is caught organizing for Amma or Hare Krishna, or such,
> they could lose their dome badge. A follower of Western faiths, however, has
> no such restrictions. One can organize for Easter, Hanukah or Ramadan, but
> not for Amma's upcoming visit to Cedar Rapids, local Hare Krishna sankirtan,
> or other Vedic traditions connected with a charismatic leader other than the
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 
> 
>  
> 
> I am empathic with this policy, but I desire some adjustment.
> 
>  
> 
> The gentleman, whose name I don't recall, and which I have not asked
> permission to reveal, very politely and reasonably pointed out to me that
> the Maharishi has the right to maintain the purity of the experiment. I
> certainly can respect this point of view. The intention seems to be that
> only those who regard the the Maharishi and his presentation of Vedic
> understanding as supreme should participate in the grant. If someone is
> thinking that some other guru or Vedic understanding is equal to or greater
> than the understanding which the Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation
> reveal, his mind and physiology will vibrate differently than someone for
> whom they are All in All. That is a natural fact. 
> 
>  
> 
> I gave the example, from a layman's point of view, that if you have a
> plutonium reactor, you wouldn't want someone to introduce iron or
> Einsteinium without your knowledge, if at all. Unfortunately there are some
> serious problems with this policy of exclusion, as there always are in any
> great undertaking, and I am personally affected by them in a variety of
> ways. 
> 
>  
> 
> I want to point out at this time that I am a supporter and admirer of the
> Maharishi and TM. My wife is a siddha, and has been on the IA course. We
> have opened our home in Louisiana many times to local TM teachers for
> program and instruction. I was privileged to run for office for the Natural
> Law Party in Louisiana in 1996 and 2000, and did much background work and
> made several public appearances on the party's behalf

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Starbucks is in trouble!

[Bhairitu]

On 04/28/2013 03:07 PM, martyboi wrote:
> The main reason Sbucks is in trouble is that young people think it's where 
> gramps goes to get a cup o' joe. The current trend is privately-owned, coffee 
> shops with free super fast wifi - which is a probably good thing. Most don't 
> seem to really care what the coffee tastes like as long as the joint is 
> unique and all four genders are equally represented (gay, straight, mixed, 
> neutral.)

Independents fail if they don't have a consistently good grind.  The 
independents here fail on that for the most part.  One local shop did 
get roasts from company founded by Peet's founder but it closed.  The 
bagel shop up the hill across from Starbucks just uses a blah restaurant 
supplier roast.  Only Starbucks really has any decent place for folks to 
get together socially.  And I wouldn't dare get a cup of coffee at the 
competitors and sit in the Starbuck's patio.   For those who want to get 
drinks elsewhere the city did put in a couple of benches near the 
patio.  As it is I bring my own eats since Starbuck's raised their 
bakery goods prices and made them smaller.  As for wifi the downtown has 
city sponsored wifi which you can get anywhere downtown.  Closer to the 
court house is an independent who will make you a press coffee with a 
good grind for $2.  Except you may have to wait for it as they can only 
deal with one person at a time.

Most of the time I fix my own espressos at home and use a Cuban grind 
that come ready for espresso in a 16 oz can for only $5.50. Going to 
Starbucks is really for socializing in an area where most people tend to 
keep to themselves.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[feste37]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn 
> > his life around.>
> 
> He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM?

I don't know when he started TM, but this is what he says (from a 2011 New York 
Times article about what he owes to it). It's a pretty strong endorsement:


RUSSELL BRAND, the lanky British comedian, has made a career of his outrageous 
antics. While a host at MTV UK, he went to work dressed up as Osama bin Laden. 
At the network's annual music awards, he likened Britney Spears to a "female 
Christ." And he was fired from the BBC after leaving raunchy messages on the 
voice mail of a 78-year-old actor, a comic bit that even his country's 
then-prime minister felt compelled to denounce. 
It is jarring then, to say the least, to hear Mr. Brand, 35, speaking 
passionately and sincerely about the emotional solace he has found in 
Transcendental Meditation, or TM. Yet there he was in December, onstage at the 
Metropolitan Museum of Art (as his new wife, the pop singer Katy Perry, waited 
backstage), describing how TM has helped him repair his psychic wounds. 
"Transcendental Meditation has been incredibly valuable to me both in my 
recovery as a drug addict and in my personal life, my marriage, my professional 
life," Mr. Brand said of the technique that prescribes two 15- to 20-minute 
sessions a day of silently repeating a one-to-three syllable mantra, so that 
practitioners can access a state of what is known as transcendental 
consciousness. "I literally had an idea drop into my brain the other day while 
I was meditating which I think is worth millions of dollars." 

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/fashion/20TM.html?_r=0

> 
> 
> 
>  Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, 
> Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from 
> somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at 
> > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our 
> > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding 
> > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: merlin 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > > to at-risk Youth
> > > 
> > > __*___
> > > 
> > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[curtisdeltablues]

I don't doubt that he finds TM beneficial in making maintaining  sobriety 
nicer.  But this is not how he kicked, that was years before. I was objecting 
to the idea that he owes his sobriety to TM.

This is a pervasive problem with TM marketing hype IMO.  I like my TM and think 
it is a nice resource.  But it doesn't get people off smack, or more precisely, 
it didn't get Russel off it.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn 
> > > his life around.>
> > 
> > He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM?
> 
> I don't know when he started TM, but this is what he says (from a 2011 New 
> York Times article about what he owes to it). It's a pretty strong 
> endorsement:
> 
> 
> RUSSELL BRAND, the lanky British comedian, has made a career of his 
> outrageous antics. While a host at MTV UK, he went to work dressed up as 
> Osama bin Laden. At the network's annual music awards, he likened Britney 
> Spears to a "female Christ." And he was fired from the BBC after leaving 
> raunchy messages on the voice mail of a 78-year-old actor, a comic bit that 
> even his country's then-prime minister felt compelled to denounce. 
> It is jarring then, to say the least, to hear Mr. Brand, 35, speaking 
> passionately and sincerely about the emotional solace he has found in 
> Transcendental Meditation, or TM. Yet there he was in December, onstage at 
> the Metropolitan Museum of Art (as his new wife, the pop singer Katy Perry, 
> waited backstage), describing how TM has helped him repair his psychic 
> wounds. 
> "Transcendental Meditation has been incredibly valuable to me both in my 
> recovery as a drug addict and in my personal life, my marriage, my 
> professional life," Mr. Brand said of the technique that prescribes two 15- 
> to 20-minute sessions a day of silently repeating a one-to-three syllable 
> mantra, so that practitioners can access a state of what is known as 
> transcendental consciousness. "I literally had an idea drop into my brain the 
> other day while I was meditating which I think is worth millions of dollars." 
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/fashion/20TM.html?_r=0
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a 
> > brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one 
> > from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at 
> > > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our 
> > > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding 
> > > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: merlin 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > > > to at-risk Youth
> > > > 
> > > > __*___
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape is impossible on FFL

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > You know, Curtis, it's amazing how much Share sounds like
> > you sometimes, especially when she's talking about Robin,
> > and about the folks who are trying (unsuccessfully) to
> > keep her honest.
> 
> I don't know what your point is here.  More conspiracy 
> theories no doubt.  To your unasked question I answer:
> zero offline contact.  We did share the focus of Robin's
> uninvited improvement sessions though, so perhaps we
> found it equally distasteful.  Our interests couldn't
> be further apart aside from being the focus of ...

WARNING: CONTEXT SHIFTING AHEAD.

> Your fairly constant references to honesty and your
> high value on it has taken the form of a tell. There
> is only one type of person who makes such constant
> references to something which the rest of us just
> take for granted in our dealings with people.  You
> are the magician announcing to the audience that he
> is hold a "normal deck of playing cards".  It draws
> too much attention to the possibility of the gimmicked
> deck.  Same with your constant "story" about your
> special relationship with honesty.  You have played it
> too hard and now your audience views you with the
> suspicion of "why is she trying sooo hard to sell this
> impression?" I know why.

Notice what Curtis has done here: He has shifted the
context from the issue of dishonesty on Share's part
that I and others have been pointing out to an implied
accusation of his own: dishonesty on my part.

What's that called when a magician does it, Curtis?
Misdirection, I think.

Let's shift the context back to where it was: There
is a great deal of *actual evidence* of Share's
dishonesty in her posts that she has been unwilling
to address. (Not to mention that the same might be
said of you, but let's leave that aside for now.)

Where's the evidence of dishonesty in my posts,
Curtis? When have I ever been unwilling to address
accusations of dishonesty on the rare occasions
when somebody has tried to make one?

> > (I'm not sure she's ever gone *quite* so far as equating
> > calling Robin a psychological rapist with "having a non
> > complimentary feeling" about him. Maybe she'll start now,
> > though.)>
> 
> When did she say that, was it within this calendar year?

(See the attempted context-shift?)

October 1, 2012, seven months ago. And she has 
reiterated it and defended it vigorously whenever
it's been questioned.

But at least she's never referred to it as "having a
non complimentary feeling" about Robin.

> > Curtis to Share: "Your playfulness in the face of
> > the barrage of ill-intentions and unfriendliness
> > is your jiu-jitsu, your mojo, and ultimately your
> > sanity preserver."
> > 
> > Exactly. It keeps that ugly, ill-intentioned, unfriendly
> > ol' reality at bay so she doesn't have to deal with it
> > and can remain safely and obliviously ensconced in her own
> > comfortable Disn--er, ShareWorld with its population of
> > colorful cartoon characters.>
> 
> Oh I get it, then all this constant badgering of her
> is due to your better grip on "reality" and you are
> just trying to help her then.

CONTEXT SHIFT ALERT!!!

(You may have noticed that I'm not the only one who
holds this opinion of Share or who objects to her
accusation. Oh, wait, I forgot, the others are all
under my control and take a dim view of Share in hopes
of a pat on the head from me. Everyone would just love
Share and hate Robin if it weren't for me. Right,
Curtis?)

If my "badgering" helps her, that's all to the good.
But my intention is get her to, in effect, unsay
that accusation, to retract it, if not to apologize
for it.

And failing that, to make it clear to anyone who might
happen to do a search for "Robin Carlsen" that there
is good reason to wonder whether the accusation had
any substance to it, or whether it was an especially
nasty, malicious, and potentially very damaging bit of
slander.

There is, in fact, considerable evidence for lack of
substance, which leads one to wonder why it was made
in the first place.

> I had it all wrong, I thought that you were just
> being Judy and running the Judy routine FOREVER
> about a comment she made about one hundred years
> ago.

Seven months ago.

Let me do my own context-shift here: Given Curtis's
animus against Robin, it isn't exactly surprising
that he would be supporting Share. After all, he was
the first to introduce--publicly--the notion that
Robin had been trying to violate Share's boundaries:

"Now I can also understand why Robin was so surprised.
He only started to put in the lever and hadn't applied
any pressure yet, but he got called out immediately."

There's more to this intervention by Curtis on Share's
behalf, but let's not introduce any more complications
right now. Suffice it to say that either Curtis hadn't 
followed their exchange, or that he had but wanted to
spin it in Share's favor,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity

[Buck]

FFL,  Evidently this Is a more faithful to Sanskrit as corrected; the 
meditators' translation as proposed in the FFL Resolution of Mutual Respect 
otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution:

 Om ! May He protect us both together; may He nourish us both together;
May we work conjointly with great energy,
May our study be vigorous and effective;
May we not mutually dispute  (or may we not hate any).

May He protect (avatu) us both (nau [~now] accusative *dual*) together (saha);
may He nourish (bhunaktu) us both (nau) together (saha);
May we work (karavaavahai) conjointly (saha)
with great energy (viiryam),
May our study be (adhiitam [study] astu [may (it) be])
vigorous-and-effective (tejasvi);
May we not (maa: 'we' in the verb ->) mutually-dispute (vidviSaavahai)
or may we not hate any: vidviSaavahai. 

> 
> The TM Saha Nav translation used 
> in the administration of the TM movement: 
> 
> Let us be together;
> Let us eat together;
> Let us be vital together;
> Let us be radiating truth;
> Radiating the light of life;
> Never shall we denounce anyone,
> Never entertain negativity.
> 
> >
> > 
> > saha nāv avatu | saha nau bhunaktu |
> > saha vīryaṃ karavāvahai | tejasvi nāv adhītam 
> > astu | mā vidviṣāvahai |
> > >
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir;  I wish to submit in to the record for 
> > > > discussion a previous testimony given by FFL resident scholar and 
> > > > expert of Sanskrit transliteration, our distinguished elder meditating 
> > > > member and linguist from Finland.  
> > > > Mr. Moderator, please include for our larger consideration the record 
> > > > of the testimony given in FFL post number 302944 and its related 
> > > > replies on the topic of the correct translation of the Sanskrit of the 
> > > > Saha Nav hymn in to English.  For our current review of the resolution 
> > > > please admit in to the record this link to the post by Cardemaister fra 
> > > > Finland about the more proper translation of the TM Saha Nav hymn:  
> > > >   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302944  
> > > > Most Respectfully,
> > > > -Buck
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > FFL,  A Question for the forum: Are there any witnesses present as to 
> > > > > the origin of the TM version of the Saha Nav hymn?  When was the Saha 
> > > > > Nav hymn first transliterated the way the TM movement uses it?  
> > > > > Lurkers who are without their own exclusive membership with posting 
> > > > > privileges are always free to contact and send their testimony to the 
> > > > > FFL owner listed at the home page for FFL as a way of being included 
> > > > > in FFL. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir, A Point of order; there seems to be a 
> > > > > > discrepancy between the proper or correct translation of the Saha 
> > > > > > Nav hymn on the one hand and the TM movement's version which was 
> > > > > > created.  We should need expert witness as to reconcile the evident 
> > > > > > difference to the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav 
> > > > > > hymn and the origin of the TM version used by the TM movement for 
> > > > > > their purposes.  Could witnesses come forward to testify as to the 
> > > > > > facts on the discrepancy?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; Let us proceed now directly to the 
> > > > > > > discussion of the Saha Nav resolution, The Fairfieldlife 
> > > > > > > Resolution of Mutual Respect, otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav 
> > > > > > > Resolution.
> > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Amen to this buck
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Dear FFL,
> > > > > > > > Mr. Moderator Sir; I take this "Amen" of the distinguished 
> > > > > > > > elder meditator from Upstate of the Great State of New York as 
> > > > > > > > a second to the motion on the Fairfieldlife Resolution of 
> > > > > > > > Mutual Respect otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution.
> > > > > > > -Buck   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > In a message dated 04/26/13 16:15:50 Eastern Daylight Time, 
> > > > > > > > > Buck writes:
> > > > > > > > > FFL Moderators, List Owner, Friends; as a motion for 
> > > > > > > > > consideration, I move we consider the adoption of the more 
> > > > > > > > > correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn as: 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The Fairfieldlife (FFL) Resolution of Mutual Respect: 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; 
> > > > > > > > > May It nourish us both together; 
> > > > > > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy, 
> > > > > > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective; 
> > > > > > > > > May we not mutually dispute or 

[FairfieldLife] Woman with doll

[Yifu]

by Holly Wood

[FairfieldLife] Re: Woman with doll

[Yifu]

http://artfangs.com/NewFiles/Painting56.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> by Holly Wood
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[srijau]

There was no "bullshit" to make excuses for. You are not even plausible in 
terms of your own believing in the arguments that you try to make, they are so 
hysterical, so much empty rhetoric that you either don't believe in them 
yourself or you have such a detachment from truthfulness that you do not even 
have a concern for what is true or not but rather only what might be damaging 
to claim.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> 
> Well, I really couldn't let this one pass without comment.
> 
> As Barry has stated a time or two, it never ceases to amaze how true 
> believers will make excuses for the guru's bullshit no matter what they do. 
> And as I have said it is because somewhere in the recesses of their minds 
> they identify themselves with the enlightened state via their association 
> with the guru and their fabulous teachings - in other words, if they accept 
> that the guru is a flawed human being and even a criminal then their own self 
> identity begins to crumble.
> 
> I personally find it to be the height of arrogance to believe that Marshy was 
> head and shoulders above any and all other spiritual teachers, including the 
> ones from India.
> 
> The flaw in your premise srijau, is that you believe that Marshy was 
> enlightened - can't blame Marshy for that since to my knowledge he never said 
> he was, blame that on everyone's gullibility and willingness to assume facts 
> not in evidence.
> 
> And to paraphrase your last statement, it should be apparent to any 
> intelligent person who can think clearly that what Marshy gave the world was 
> a good old fashioned screwing - I will give him this, he was the most 
> successful con artist of the 20th century.
> 
> And any intelligent person should be able to see from the governmental 
> dysfunction that exists world wide and the carnage and destruction that 
> exists worldwide militarily, economically and pollution-wise that TM and 
> especially yogic flying have not done a damn thing to make the world better, 
> unless you want to fall back on the ridiculous argument of "Awww, no tellin' 
> how bad off we would be if we hadn't had some TMSP all these years!" 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "srijau@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:52 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
>  
> 
> 
>   
> This is several types of nonsense. 
> A Maharishi is not a celibate person.
> The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he 
> ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. 
> Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same 
> reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have 
> dropped the Bal Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about 
> himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message 
> is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating 
> that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all 
> Mankind. 
> You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he 
> appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way 
> taken from somewhere else.
> Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. 
> No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious 
> day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and 
> has kept themselves informed.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much 
> > of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, 
> > Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on.
> > 
> > So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like 
> > Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice 
> > celibacy.
> > 
> > If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of 
> > consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss.
> > 
> > 
> > ---  doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a 
> > > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the 
> > > two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! 
> > > 
> > > ---  Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard 
> > > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at 
> > > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our 
> > > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding 
> > > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: merlin 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity

[Alex Stanley]

By the power vested in me by His Ownerness Rick Archer, I now declare the FFL 
Saha Nav to be the official suggested policy for interpersonal interaction on 
FFL.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> FFL,  Evidently this Is a more faithful to Sanskrit as corrected; the 
> meditators' translation as proposed in the FFL Resolution of Mutual Respect 
> otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution:
> 
>  Om ! May He protect us both together; may He nourish us both together;
> May we work conjointly with great energy,
> May our study be vigorous and effective;
> May we not mutually dispute  (or may we not hate any).
> 
> May He protect (avatu) us both (nau [~now] accusative *dual*) together (saha);
> may He nourish (bhunaktu) us both (nau) together (saha);
> May we work (karavaavahai) conjointly (saha)
> with great energy (viiryam),
> May our study be (adhiitam [study] astu [may (it) be])
> vigorous-and-effective (tejasvi);
> May we not (maa: 'we' in the verb ->) mutually-dispute (vidviSaavahai)
> or may we not hate any: vidviSaavahai. 
> 
> > 
> > The TM Saha Nav translation used 
> > in the administration of the TM movement: 
> > 
> > Let us be together;
> > Let us eat together;
> > Let us be vital together;
> > Let us be radiating truth;
> > Radiating the light of life;
> > Never shall we denounce anyone,
> > Never entertain negativity.
> > 
> > >
> > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

[feste37]

Maybe he doesn't exactly say that, so instead let me make the issue personal: 
Before I started doing TM regularly in 1969, I smoked 20 cigarettes a day. In 
January 1970 I gave up smoking and never went back to it. I credit TM for this. 
I just didn't need the fags any more. OK, so it wasn't heroin, but an addictive 
drug nonetheless. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> I don't doubt that he finds TM beneficial in making maintaining  sobriety 
> nicer.  But this is not how he kicked, that was years before. I was objecting 
> to the idea that he owes his sobriety to TM.
> 
> This is a pervasive problem with TM marketing hype IMO.  I like my TM and 
> think it is a nice resource.  But it doesn't get people off smack, or more 
> precisely, it didn't get Russel off it.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to 
> > > > turn his life around.>
> > > 
> > > He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM?
> > 
> > I don't know when he started TM, but this is what he says (from a 2011 New 
> > York Times article about what he owes to it). It's a pretty strong 
> > endorsement:
> > 
> > 
> > RUSSELL BRAND, the lanky British comedian, has made a career of his 
> > outrageous antics. While a host at MTV UK, he went to work dressed up as 
> > Osama bin Laden. At the network's annual music awards, he likened Britney 
> > Spears to a "female Christ." And he was fired from the BBC after leaving 
> > raunchy messages on the voice mail of a 78-year-old actor, a comic bit that 
> > even his country's then-prime minister felt compelled to denounce. 
> > It is jarring then, to say the least, to hear Mr. Brand, 35, speaking 
> > passionately and sincerely about the emotional solace he has found in 
> > Transcendental Meditation, or TM. Yet there he was in December, onstage at 
> > the Metropolitan Museum of Art (as his new wife, the pop singer Katy Perry, 
> > waited backstage), describing how TM has helped him repair his psychic 
> > wounds. 
> > "Transcendental Meditation has been incredibly valuable to me both in my 
> > recovery as a drug addict and in my personal life, my marriage, my 
> > professional life," Mr. Brand said of the technique that prescribes two 15- 
> > to 20-minute sessions a day of silently repeating a one-to-three syllable 
> > mantra, so that practitioners can access a state of what is known as 
> > transcendental consciousness. "I literally had an idea drop into my brain 
> > the other day while I was meditating which I think is worth millions of 
> > dollars." 
> > 
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/fashion/20TM.html?_r=0
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a 
> > > brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one 
> > > from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with 
> > > > > Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth 
> > > > > look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we 
> > > > > want our kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a 
> > > > > resounding "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise 
> > > > > decision!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: merlin 
> > > > > To: 
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to 
> > > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand 
> > > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > > > > to at-risk Youth
> > > > > 
> > > > > __*___
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>