[FairfieldLife] lovely link

2005-05-02 Thread David Fiske
If you haven't seen this yet you will surely enjoy it. http://www.potentialmovie.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] lovely link

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
Saw it. Thanks. on 5/2/05 3:25 PM, David Fiske at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you haven't seen this yet you will surely enjoy it. http://www.potentialmovie.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sad thing is, so few will look outside the TMO for perspective. Therein lies great danger. Blind trust can only lead to blindness in this case. How is your own

Re: [FairfieldLife] Today's Guardian (UK) Newspaper

2005-05-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
Either that, or it'll just *seem* a heck of a lot longer. :) On May 2, 2005, at 8:42 AM, scienceofabundance wrote: The Beatles were right: researchers have found that hanging out with the Maharishi may make you live longer.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanyama and Effective Transcendent Prayer

2005-05-02 Thread johnlasher20002000
My experience is beyond experience during the TM phase and a honey like smoothness with sanyama on the Name of God. I use the Sanskrit Sat Naam which to me conceptualizes consciousness (Sat) knowing itself (Naam). It brings the self into experience so I seem to have both Pure consciousness with no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sanyama and Effective Transcendent Prayer

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2005, at 4:48 PM, johnlasher20002000 wrote: My experience is beyond experience during the TM phase and a honey like smoothness with sanyama on the Name of God. I use the Sanskrit Sat Naam which to me conceptualizes consciousness (Sat) knowing itself (Naam). It brings the self into

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanyama and Effective Transcendent Prayer

2005-05-02 Thread jim_flanegin
That sounds nice! I was meditating I think last Friday afternoon and I had this experience whereby I could see the Absolute as a lake of water and every time my body did a heart beat, it sent out ripples over the lake. Fun stuff! Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] MUM 10 Pm bedtime?

2005-05-02 Thread Bob Brigante
Everybody in the city has to be at home and in bed by curfew time, when all the lights go off http://slate.com/id/2117846/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[FairfieldLife] More Indian students in USA, but not the pundits...

2005-05-02 Thread Bob Brigante
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=45950 Express India, 2 May 2005 Security check on visa applications from students in science and technology fields is believed to have discouraged many Chinese students from applying to US schools. Not so for Indian students, who faced the same

[FairfieldLife] New Intro Lecture policy?

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
Someone told me that the new policy is that the teacher giving the lecture says hello and pops in a video of Bevan, John, and Tony Nader giving an intro. After the tape he answers questions. Anyone heard if this is true? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] New Intro Lecture policy?

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/2/05 5:37 PM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone told me that the new policy is that the teacher giving the lecture says hello and pops in a video of Bevan, John, and Tony Nader giving an intro. After the tape he answers questions. Anyone heard if this is true? P.S. I don't

[FairfieldLife] TM/Longer-Life study picked up by mainstream ABC News

2005-05-02 Thread George DeForest
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=721613 Meditation calms the mind, lengthens life: study Reuters May. 2, 2005 - By Charnicia E. Huggins NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Increasing evidence suggests that transcendental meditation may not only reduce stress, but also may help adults

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I'm beginning to wonder if the $336 million loss (see posted tax returns) is motivating this last extraction of funds before the

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I'm beginning to wonder if the $336 million

[FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Patrick Gillam
Vaj wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: How is your own attachment and identification with a new set of codified dogmas any less blind? I go with my experience. You don't have to agree with it. But Vaj, you just said our experiences have a funny way of matching what

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
Good evening: On May 2, 2005, at 9:12 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: But Vaj, you just said our experiences have a funny way of matching what we've been taught they should be. Why should your experiences of the harmful effects of the TM- Sidhi program be any more valid than my experiences if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/2/05 8:49 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dana and I seem to agree on a good number of things. I hope we get to meet when he is in Blue Hill. I have a Zen master I'm sure he'd like to meet! Me too! I might stop by there this summer. Do you live there or near there? To

[FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for

2005-05-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/1/05 3:37:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally , I think philosophizing about the Tibetans is about all we can do!. That is because you and republicans can only

[FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for

2005-05-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/1/05 3:33:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So you now have changed your opinion that 'nature is just culling humans'? Try to get over your egothen respond to this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for

2005-05-02 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/2/05 9:34:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok. I said many times that your logic makes some sense, but it is ONLY your ego that cannot simply say "Yes , I agree that it is not 'nature's culling justice' but humans killing humans. Call a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
Good idea. Hahah. Anyway, there's not so many ashrams left. Let's see, Muktananda, rip, Yogananda, rip, Maharishi, might as well be rip, Prahupada, rip, Rajaneesh (who I respect BTW-I always assumed that everyone thought the rolls royces were a joke, as in, when is enough enough. I still

[FairfieldLife] Resort to One Guru

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Resort to One Guru Quote I used to carry in my wallet: The Guru is not an instructor who comes into the life of the student to educate him in a subject or subjects, and goes out of it as soon as his role is over. The Guru is the Spiritual Father of the disciple: he takes the disciple

[FairfieldLife] SSRSh on Bettina S!

2005-05-02 Thread cardemaister
http://www.yle.fi/fst/bettinas/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To

[FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening: Dana and I seem to agree on a good number of things. I hope we get to meet when he is in Blue Hill. I have a Zen master I'm sure he'd like to meet! Blue Hill, Maine, Vaj? Lived there for a few years as a

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Tuesday - Stop Judging

2005-05-02 Thread The Daily Inspiration
Title: Template May 03, 2005 - Stop Judging I have discovered that when I bring myself to stop stating judgments aloud, I save myself the ordeal of listening to the same judgments made of me. When I

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!

2005-05-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.yle.fi/fst/bettinas/ Click on Titta pa videon next to Bettina's right knee! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Monday - Give 100%

2005-05-02 Thread The Daily Inspiration
Title: Template May 02, 2005 - Give 100% In order to wake up, you must commit all of your inner resources one-pointedly to the task at hand. You must be willing to suspend all other considerations

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi I’m enjoying these comments, Kirk. We gotta save this Brigante boy. If this jelly jar is callingyou stickyeven in jest then he needs his lid screwed a bit tighter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
You can still feeltremendous gratitude toward him for all the blessings he brought you, andforgive his shortcomings if that's what they are.---Not to mention that his name will be erased from your mind by next reincarnation anyway. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or

[FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for

2005-05-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/1/05 8:04:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey when good Communist wright the history books I apologies for my spelling people it's usually not that bad! Well,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 1, 2005, at 11:28 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: Guru Dev sent MMY to enlighten a very very ignorant world, and in that process, MMY may have to not stick to the facts at every turn in order to successfully accomplish his important and divinely-mandated mission. Where is your evidence to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for

2005-05-02 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easyone,ever consider anger management? Cause youe posts frequenly come across as pretty angry.BTW I'm pretty sure you will respond to this post in the same way but who knows maybe Im wrong :) Kevin It would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Byron Katie's wake-up experience

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
What I find so interesting about Byron Katie's awakening is that it occured outside of any enlightenment tradition. She had no prior concepts or expectations regarding awakening. I believe Eckhart Tolle also awoke outside of any tradition. Ramana Maharishi's awakening also occured outside of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/1/05 10:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to say that everyone has to become disillusioned with his guru in order to graduate. Maharishi certainly didn't. Do we know this to be true...? :-D

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is the correlation really as tight as you assume? Could TM be as great as it is yet MMY have a few screws loose? That's the amazing thing: MMY is actually greater than any assumption a mind could have and he has more than a few screws loose. Any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not the point which I felt you might find disillusioning. It's your conception of MMY which might be in for some disturbing revisions. Yes, beautiful point.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/1/05 10:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to say that everyone has to become disillusioned with his guru in order to graduate. Maharishi certainly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
Any mental story, satvic or tamasic, is just horse shit. We hold onto stories because it gives the mind a sense of control. What would happen if we let go of all our stories? Probably we'd explode like those toads I read about! -Peter --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's sort of like

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not the point which I felt you might find disillusioning. It's your

[FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG: TWILIGHT OF THE TRANSCENDENT

2005-05-02 Thread TurquoiseB
BURGERDAMMERUNG: TWILIGHT OF THE TRANSCENDENT, or Do you want fries with that enlightenment? Those who have been waiting with 'bated breath to hear the official definition of an Ideal Vedic Society from Maharishi need wait no more; the verdict is in. The Ideal Vedic Society is a Burger King

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2005, at 8:06 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Any mental story, satvic or tamasic, is just horse shit. We hold onto stories because it gives the mind a sense of control. What would happen if we let go of all our stories? Probably we'd explode like those toads I read about! Observe how

[FairfieldLife] TWILIGHT OF THE TRANSCENDENT

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
Commentary from an old TM teacher on the new TM. BURGERDAMMERUNG: TWILIGHT OF THE TRANSCENDENT, or Do you want fries with that enlightenment? Those who have been waiting with 'bated breath to hear the official definition of an Ideal Vedic Society from Maharishi need wait no more; the verdict is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
Crowley said that much of what we perceive with our limited sight organ as black is really light at too high a vibration. Much of what we perceive as evil is just the conditioning that society has wrought upon us, for instance, the stigmas of nudity and of use of plants for exploration

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
On the other hand it's said that the guru is a mold for the mind and so it's very important to choose the right mold because if not then the mind becomes imprinted and one starts making that type of karma, which will have far reaching consequences. The traditional reason that God has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
no difference other than on the level ofpersonality. We just have a lot of concepts regardingwho can and who can not be awake. -Peter Sure, and when one realizes this in themself also then of what use are those others? They become rather comedic. To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Patrick Gillam
Vaj posted: The siddhi formulae will create more vasanas rather than eliminating them. Also they introduce form, when habits of form must be transcended for true enlightenment to dawn. Vaj, you posted lots of scripture to back up the contention above, but is it also your experience

Re: [FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG: TWILIGHT OF THE TRANSCENDENT

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
I'm an MIU grad class of 87. I went through my spiritual crisis with the TMO merely over the raise in initiation fee to 2,500 smackers. That was a clear enough sign for me, the rest has been not icing on the cake but flower icing on the icing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: M's Secretaries - Shannon's Story

2005-05-02 Thread Patrick Gillam
Quite a recollection, Rick. Thanks for sourcing this. I have a few questions at the bottom. Rick Archer posted Shannon Dickson's words: My feeling on seeing how things devolved from 1972 through 1975 is that MMY had gone through a kind of mini-breakdown, possibly from the combination of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: but is it also your experience that the TM-Siddhi program created vasanas, rather than eliminated them? If yes, how could you tell? Thanks. Hi Patrick: One tell tale sign is 'are the kleshas dissolving'--is your mind-stream less

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: M's Secretaries - Shannon's Story

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/2/05 8:28 AM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the trouble around Shantinand in India? The Shankaracharya controversy. The conflict between the guy M supported and the other guy whom the other Shankaracharyas supported. Who are the TB's? I would say true believers,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no difference other than on the level of personality. We just have a lot of concepts regarding who can and who can not be awake. -Peter Sure, and when one realizes this in themself also then of what use are those others? They become rather

Re: [FairfieldLife] TWILIGHT OF THE TRANSCENDENT

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
Wonderful post. Been there, done that, still doing.have a great day! -Peter --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Commentary from an old TM teacher on the new TM. BURGERDAMMERUNG: TWILIGHT OF THE TRANSCENDENT, or Do you want fries with that enlightenment? Those who have been waiting with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/1/05 11:41 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY is a great saint, but even if you don't think so, you should recall what MMY said when people complained about the behavior of TM teachers: Even a sick man can open a health food store. TM is a mechanical technique that does

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/2/05 6:43 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/1/05 10:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to say that everyone has to become disillusioned with his guru in order to graduate. Maharishi

Re: [FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG: TWILIGHT OF THE TRANSCENDENT

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
Brilliant. Is Barry the one who posted this? Bravo! on 5/2/05 7:21 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BURGERDAMMERUNG: TWILIGHT OF THE TRANSCENDENT, or Do you want fries with that enlightenment? Those who have been waiting with 'bated breath to hear the official definition of an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi on 5/2/05 7:49 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand it's said that the guru is a mold for the mind and so it's very important to choose the right mold because if not then the mind becomes imprinted and one

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/2/05 6:43 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. it just appears to be. It is more likely that he is disillusioned with himself. Ah, you think he sees a difference? So I guess maybe you do too? Sounds

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/2/05 10:32 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/2/05 6:43 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. it just appears to be. It is more likely that he is disillusioned with himself. Ah, you think

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/2/05 10:32 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think he saw a difference between himself and Jennifer, or Judith? Maybe not. I really don't know. Yeah me neither, I am not paid to think; only to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/2/05 10:46 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/2/05 10:32 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think he saw a difference between himself and Jennifer, or Judith? Maybe not. I really

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/2/05 10:46 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah me neither, I am not paid to think; only to not know :-) Hey, who's paying you? Can I get in on that gig? *lol* You just did. To subscribe, send

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Don
Bob Brigante wrote: snip This possibility that the TM movement will not be successful in my lifetime is not disillusioning -- because the cycle of epochs of high and low consciousness are natural phenomena, just like the sun being seen in various positions in the sky and not at all --

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
Now what would a dope smoking, alcohol swilling, onionmunching chef from New Orleans know aboutenlightenment? ;-)-Peter---I know that I can make you savour the six tastes more than your average movement syncophanticook. But you're right, I would probably just add to your vasanas. To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: M's Secretaries - Shannon's Story

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
He's thinking of writing a book. David Fiske offers some interestingperspectives, having been around for most of the 60's.---If you can get past the preachy self righteous priggishness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
This is a key point. Whatever mistakes M may have made in his personal ormanagerial life don't invalidate the benefits of TM. Conversely, theeffectiveness of TM doesn't necessarily imply that M is faultless.---I think we could all forgive Maharishi any sort of wrong except that what we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi Oh, ok. Yeah, haven't smoked in a week. Guess the real deep connections are just not coming anymore. heheh. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now what would a dope smoking, alcohol swilling, onion munching chef from New Orleans know about enlightenment? ;-) -Peter ---I know that I can make you savour the six tastes more than your average movement syncophanticook. But you're right, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi on 5/2/05 11:22 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, ok. Yeah, haven't smoked in a week. Guess the real deep connections are just not coming anymore. Heheh No, they are. I mean it. I think abstinence is good for you. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: M's Secretaries - Shannon's Story

2005-05-02 Thread Patrick Gillam
Patrick Gillam wrote: It would be vastly entertaining for me to read a lucid account of how the period before the mid-1970's differed from the period after. Shannon talks about it a little, but I'd welcome some elaboration. Rick Archer wrote: [Shannon is] thinking of writing a

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/2/05 11:22 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, ok. Yeah, haven't smoked in a week. Guess the real deep connections are just not coming anymore. Heheh No, they are. I mean it. I think abstinence is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: M's Secretaries - Shannon's Story

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/2/05 11:33 AM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because so many people end the golden era at different times, I once tended to view the disaffections as having more to do with the people than the movement. Now I'm inclined to see those people as having different degrees of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: M's Secretaries - Shannon's Story

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I think it's a matter of relative experience. Most of us didn't get into it until after the Beatles. So it seemed great to us, but we had nothing to compare it with, as did those who started in the early 60's. Those who came in with the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi Oh, ok. Yeah, haven't smoked in a week. Guess the real deep connections are just not coming anymore. Heheh No, they are. I mean it. I think abstinence is good for you. I remember about a year ago you were on mushrooms one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
RJ, could you elaborate on the tantric writing style you were/sre using.did you make it up or such thing exist?---Not sure I get your meaning. I write. Because it feels good and as most of the arts they come out of the poor trying to lift up the mud and give it shape. Emulating Promethius

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The traditional reason that God has not been sold is that that prevents the poor from buying and therefore crushes hope. To develop this attitute that all that's needed is the high bid to participate further pushes

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread anonymousff
oh ok, I see now. for the records the other day someone noted that you write in a tantric style, but I guess it was just a tease on his part. anyway I thought that such style really exists and that I'm not familiar with it, I believed it to be some non-linear writing and it was interesting to

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a key point. Whatever mistakes M may have made in his personal or managerial life don't invalidate the benefits of TM. Conversely, the effectiveness of TM doesn't necessarily imply that M is faultless. ---I

[FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Patrick Gillam
Subtle stuff -- subtler than I can claim! Comments and questions below. Vaj wrote: There was a recognition that samsara was being created and observed, thus this deep sense of suffering at the instant of recognition. Later there was the simultaneous arising of loathing for all of

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Patrick Gillam
JohnY wrote: I've always thought that the most disturbing or hope crushing thing that Maharishi has done it to take the devotional impulse (and the innocent desire to help) of teachers and use it against them. Please elaborate; I don't see how devotional impulses in TM teachers have been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: There was a recognition that samsara was being created and observed, thus this deep sense of suffering at the instant of recognition. Later there was the simultaneous arising of loathing for all of samsara. At that instant (of recognition of

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JohnY wrote: I've always thought that the most disturbing or hope crushing thing that Maharishi has done it to take the devotional impulse (and the innocent desire to help) of teachers and use it against them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread jim_flanegin
I recall Maharishi saying at some point that he could enlighten one person very quickly or the entire world with some time, more slowly. Given that the conventional arrangement on Earth is to have space- time locality with one's Master in order to evolve quickly, and given that Maharishi can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
I consider myself a tantric. That to me means that I take no prisoners of my ignorance. It's kill or be killed. I consider myself a 'stream enterer' which is to say that having had the glimpse of the direction I feel I know the way. I need noone to tell me anything more. That doesn't mean

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread jim_flanegin
To your point Alex, I recall Maharishi discussing how impressions on the nervous system (and subsequent attachment) are made as consciousness grows more refined: initially rock scratching rock, leaving a deep hard impression taking some time to erode, gives way to stick through sand, leaving a

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recall Maharishi saying at some point that he could enlighten one person very quickly or the entire world with some time, more slowly. Given that the conventional arrangement on Earth is to have space- time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2005, at 2:12 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: big merciless clip So what appears as Maharishi abusing the devotee is actually an encouragement to evolve maximally. sigh Time for a TMO 12-step group guys (if one hasn't already been created). I gotta tell you, that last post scared me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread jim_flanegin
Yeah, got it. This is just what I personally went through and observed when considering whether to become a TM teacher or not. I chose not to, seeing early on that I couldn't exist comfortably in the TMO for very long. For those apparently understanding Maharishi and divining his thinking on

[FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sad thing is, so few will look outside the TMO for perspective. Therein lies great danger. Blind trust can only lead to blindness in this case. How is your own attachment and identification with a new set of codified

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on TM-Sidhi, money-making and pseudo-Patanjali

2005-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: How is your own attachment and identification with a new set of codified dogmas any less blind? I go with my experience. You don't have to agree with it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if the $336 million loss (see posted tax returns) is motivating this last extraction of funds before the final pullout to India and points east (naw, that's too conspiratorial) JohnY where

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where are the tax returns posted? which entity is it?? http://www.guidestar.org/ Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
Hey, I thought you were in Scotland. on 5/2/05 1:55 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if the $336 million loss (see posted tax returns) is motivating this last extraction of

[FairfieldLife] Sanyama and Effective Transcendent Prayer

2005-05-02 Thread johnlasher20002000
Effective Prayer is the process of embodying the divine and becoming it's expression The technique of Sanyama can be used to accomplish this Meditation is the process of bringing the attention inward to stillness, inner silence, pure bliss consciousness, the witness state, samadhi. All of these

[FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi

2005-05-02 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I thought you were in Scotland. Just about to leave. gonna install myself as raja. no wimpy beige robes, fake gold crowns and pathetic new age mall stores -- I'm plan on being in full braveheart get up with plans

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sanyama and Effective Transcendent Prayer

2005-05-02 Thread Llundrub
Sounds like Billy Smith - Original Message - From: johnlasher20002000 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sanyama and Effective Transcendent Prayer Effective Prayer is the process of embodying the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanyama and Effective Transcendent Prayer

2005-05-02 Thread jim_flanegin
Hence the growing from CC to GC or 'perceiving the finest relative' as it is referred to by Maharishi. You didn't finish your exposition. What happens after you subtly entertain that thought of God? What is YOUR experience? Jai Guru Dev Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,