[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I told Tom he was enlightened and he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I > > was enlightened, so there. > > > > Haha.have you ever had someone tell

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It would *appear* anyhow that th

[FairfieldLife] Re: JFF: Translating "Shankarite" Sanskrit -- introduction

2005-10-13 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Try to figure out, how many different syntactic deep structure > hierarchies this hypothetical compound word, slightly imitating some > Classical Sanskrit writers, can represent: > > deep-green-salt-water-melon

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > It would *appear* anyhow that the Brahma-point at the center of the > > Hiranyagarbha (poised between the mountain-cone of Vi

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It would *appear* anyhow that the Brahma-point at the center of the > Hiranyagarbha (poised between the mountain-cone of Vishnu and the > upside down cone of Shiva) becomes aware of itself via a very > quick "chu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread akasha_108
MDG: Then who is the "I" that is doing this switching, that "could switch between 'ME' and 'me'", that says "the sense or glow of 'ME' was stronger and more switchable with 'me' when I wanted it"? Akasha: Its a form of the intellect that knows itself, and the difference between "Me" and "me". Inte

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Energy (ananda, bliss, laughter, Shiva) = Mass (sat, love, Vishnu) > times the speed of light (chit, consciousness, Brahma) squared > (aware of itself). Mass resisted (denied the light of self- > knowledge) become

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great question, and one I was thinking about some after writing this > post. All I can really say is that while technically all are blazing > Brahman already, some appear to blaze a lot brighter than others in >

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Regarding your comments below - I would think that your perspective > would be that everyone is actually blazing Brahman already, and just > have to realize it. In that case, what special status would you give > to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread akasha_108
Hi Paula, Pleasant is always good, if not the best. My response, though "serious" in content, had a jocular intent. There is a cetain "joke" underlying the question and answer. In a similar vein to Judy's statement "I just don't want to be overshadowed anymore". As you may know from my posts, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I told Tom he was enlightene

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread akasha_108
Peter: > > > This is one of the clearest responses articulating the > > > condition of "I" after realization. It's brilliant. > > > Wondering what happens to the "I" in enlightenment is > > > like asking what happens to the knot after it's > > > untied; what happens to the darkness when the light

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Paula Youmans
Yikes, not at all. And if I did, asking would hardly help me (as I was stating). I ask because people speak of enlightenment as if they know what it is and have never been able to find out. So to answer your questions I want to know you couldn’t pay me to take such a la

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I > > was enlightened, so there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Haha.hav

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I know and have read about several people who > > > suffered traumatic accidents > > > that appear to have kicked th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths...

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's perceived as untimely b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Full awareness, > > but no "I" to lay claim to be doing anything. There is > > nobody home, but all the lights are on and everything

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread akasha_108
> Peter > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I > was enlightened, so there. Paula > Seriously.how does anyone ever know??? Who wants to know? Do you feel you would be enhanced with such a christening or label? If so, isn't that telling? Doesn't that in itself convey the answer?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Seriously.how does anyone ever know??? > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flaneg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I told Tom he was enlighten

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
snip > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Seriously.how does anyone ever know??? > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life is o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I > > was enlightened, so there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Haha.ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I > was enlightened, so there. > > > > > > Haha.have you ever had someone tell you that you had reached enlightenment? > > It's a lot like someone inform

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I know and have read about several people who > > suffered traumatic accidents > > that appear to have kicked them into a more > > enlightened state. > > Some people believe walk-ins exchange places at those >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Actions of Enlightened...Speculation at best

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Actions of enlightened beings, such speculation by the ignorant. > > > > fly off the handle at the most (seemingly) minimal t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Any decent books on Vedic knowledge in TMO

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was just wondering lately if any decent books have been written and > published on Vedic knowledge lately. snip> It just seems to me I can't find many books at any bookstore by anyone > associated with the TMO tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths...

2005-10-13 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > It's perceived as untimely because these people cast of their mortal > > coils way ahead of the statistically established life

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, life > > goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, life > goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements continue, and > one day we will look a long way back and realize > that 'enlightenment',

[FairfieldLife] ME and me and The Knower [Was: Proclaiming ones enlightenment]

2005-10-13 Thread Michael Dean Goodman
> Akasha wrote: [snipped Paula's question and the first half of Akasha's reply] > But I did not experience that as the stark "no I" that you appear to > have or others have. And there was, through my youth and adulthood, a > "me" that desired, strove for things, got hurt, got angry, etc. I > coul

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I > was enlightened, so there. > > > > > > Haha.have you ever had someone tell you that you had reached enlightenment? > > It's a lot like someone info

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread anonymousff
Regarding your comments below - I would think that your perspective would be that everyone is actually blazing Brahman already, and just have to realize it. In that case, what special status would you give to those who are <> ? In other words, what is the difference between the majority of peop

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Paula Youmans
To be like Shiva. He does it all the time.     Plus Ostriches are cool, and by cool I mean totally sweet! Fast as hell they are…. Swsh :-D   To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread akasha_108
Peter wrote: > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I > was enlightened, so there. And then you rolled over and told Tom to quit hogging all the blanket? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Full awareness, > > > but no "I" to lay claim to be doing anything. > > There

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Peter
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Why would one imagine they are an ostrich if they > are > > not? > > > Yeah- it does get a little hypothetical. I guess > you'd have to ask the > ostrich... I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why would one imagine they are an ostrich if they are > not? > Yeah- it does get a little hypothetical. I guess you'd have to ask the ostrich... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Paula Youmans
I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I was enlightened, so there.   Haha…have you ever had someone tell you that you had reached enlightenment? It’s a lot like someone informing you of a past life you don’t remember; or getting the gas bill:   “Okeedoke, I’ll tak

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread Peter
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > I know and have read about several people who > > > suffered traumatic accidents > > > that appear to have kicked them into a more > > > enlightened state.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Peter
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Full awareness, > > but no "I" to lay claim to be doing anything. > There is > > nobody home, but all the lights are on and > everything > > is working just fine. That

[FairfieldLife] JFF: Translating "Shankarite" Sanskrit -- introduction

2005-10-13 Thread cardemaister
Try to figure out, how many different syntactic deep structure hierarchies this hypothetical compound word, slightly imitating some Classical Sanskrit writers, can represent: deep-green-salt-water-melon For instance: deep(-green-salt-water-melon)?? deep-green(-salt-water-melon), an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Full awareness, > but no "I" to lay claim to be doing anything. There is > nobody home, but all the lights are on and everything > is working just fine. That sense of "I" is just a very > subtle thought. Self-inquiry will re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I know and have read about several people who > > suffered traumatic accidents > > that appear to have kicked them into a more > > enlightened state. > > Some people believe walk-ins exchange places at those

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In > > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Tom T: > > > > I have two friends who are E

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 10/13/05 11:58 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> on 10/12/05 10:56 AM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread gullible fool
> I know and have read about several people who > suffered traumatic accidents > that appear to have kicked them into a more > enlightened state. Some people believe walk-ins exchange places at those times and that's the reason why the individual feels so "different". --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL P

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Peter
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Tom T: > > > I have two friends who are Enlightened > > > > Spare egg writes: > > And you know this because? > > > > Tom T: > > Takes

[FairfieldLife] Literary accent decent ion

2005-10-13 Thread oraganon
Upon this window, looking in the falseness of identity. Out stretching hands pulling me through the glass mansion of mirrors. With such discretion i look upon you. Your face filled with the wonders of something i will never come to understand . I live in the life of madness. Beating to the sacred d

[FairfieldLife] No Direction Home

2005-10-13 Thread TurquoiseB
My much-coveted copy of Martin Scorcese's "No Direction Home" was at my door when I got home from work. The first words of it, spoken by the Bob Dylan of today, reminiscing about his youth, resonated for me with some of the things that have been said here recently about enlightenment. "I had

[FairfieldLife] Short Cut to Nirvana

2005-10-13 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Short Cut to Nirvana Short cut to Nirvana An exhilarating, insightful, uplifting and often hilarious journey of discovery to the biggest event in history - the Kumbh Mela. Held every 12 years where the holy Ganges and Yamuna rivers meet, this incredible festival brings together 70 milli

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths...

2005-10-13 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > It's perceived as untimely because these people cast of their mortal > > coils way ahead of the statistically established life

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread peterklutz
Henceforth, this definition of Self-realization has to count as a classic.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is nobody home, but all the lights are on and everything > is working just fine. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread akasha_108
Irmeli: > > It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop > > identifying the 'I' > > with an image of one's personal self, say there is > > no 'I' anymore. Peter: > Because no "I" or psychological sense of "me" is > present. It can't be found. When people (in avidya) > say "me" they are refe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/13/05 11:58 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> on 10/12/05 10:56 AM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> That's why Sandy had her friend drive when they ventured >>> out on highway 34 on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah I remember after learning Sanskrit trying to find out what > > all the *real* words were for all the TM buzzwords and > > experiences. "Co

[FairfieldLife] Weekend with Solane' in Fairfield, IA Nov 17-19

2005-10-13 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Weekend with Solane' in Fairfield, IA Nov 17-19 Dear Friend, You are invited to attend a Weekend Intensive with Solane' Verraine. We will be meeting in a small group which provides an intimate setting to discover and rest in your true nature. The main focus of this weekend intensive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Actions of Enlightened...Speculation at best

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > While there is some truth in what you say, do > > you really think that a guy who talks like > > Yoda is in any position to rag on puppets? > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Someone sent me the following note. Anyone care to expand upon it? > > > > I was struck a number of years by the legion of meditato

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tom T: > > I have two friends who are Enlightened > > Spare egg writes: > And you know this because? > > Tom T: > Takes one to know one. and as Rick insinuated I know a lot more than > two

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 4:02 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Enlightenment, connates, to me at least, an endpoint. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths...

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's perceived as untimely because these people cast of their mortal > coils way ahead of the statistically established life expectancy for > the society they live in > > This perception is reinforced by the assu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Tom T: > > > He also set up a scale of Enlightment which appears to > > > be quite useful since on his scale it extends from a nomin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's designated successor..

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 10/12/05 12:47 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In > > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> on 10/6/05 2:37 PM, peterklutz at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 10/12/05 10:56 AM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > That's why Sandy had her friend drive when they ventured > > out on highway 34 on a winter day to check her horse, > > which she stabled near Ottu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Actions of Enlightened...Speculation at best

2005-10-13 Thread Bhairitu
akasha_108 wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >While there is some truth in what you say, do > > >>you really think that a guy who talks like >>Yoda is in any position to rag on puppets? >>Silly it is. :-) >> >> > >Wise man .. are you. > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unreal estate

2005-10-13 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: >--- In >FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>The interesting thing about property is you eventually realize you >>don't own it. It Owns You. Tom >> >> > >Exactly why I've never bought a house. I've watched >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Peter
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: > > > It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop > identifying the 'I' > > with an image of one's personal self, say there is > no 'I' anymore. > > > > The `I' is the subject, who feels, sees, > inte

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Peter
--- Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop > identifying the 'I' > with an image of one's personal self, say there is > no 'I' anymore. Because no "I" or psychological sense of "me" is present. It can't be found. When people (in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unreal estate

2005-10-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The interesting thing about property is you eventually realize you > don't own it. It Owns You. Tom Exactly why I've never bought a house. I've watched so many friends go crazy trying to keep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- snip --- > > When I was around 9 or 10 my best friend and I used to > play this game. We would sit quietly and begin to > negate our experience piece by piece. We'd alternate > saying things like, "The tree in the front

[FairfieldLife] Unreal estate

2005-10-13 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 13, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: > > > It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop identifying the 'I' > > with an image of one's personal self, say there is no 'I' anymore. > > > > The `I' is the s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unreal estate

2005-10-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've noticed that a lot of folks here are interested > in real estate. Here's a Forbes slide show of the > ten (really 12) most expensive homes on the market > in the US. None of them is in Fairfield. All of > them,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Vaj
On Oct 13, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop identifying the 'I'  with an image of one's personal self, say there is no 'I' anymore. The `I' is the subject, who feels, sees, interprets and evaluates  situations, makes meaning, uses concepts li

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Peter wrote: > > > This is one of the clearest responses articulating the > > condition of "I" after realization. It's brilliant. > > Wondering what happens to the "I" in enlightenment is > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Vaj
On Oct 12, 2005, at 9:43 PM, akasha_108 wrote:Does the switching experience I described correspond to any types of "standard" transmissions that you are aware of?Anything's possible but nothing specific I could add. Does the clothng I described, white cloak, hood, dark bue symbol laden embrodery

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > When I was around 9 or 10 my best friend and I > used to > > play this game. We would sit quietly and begin to > > negate our experience piece by piece. We'd > alternat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Any decent books on Vedic knowledge in TMO

2005-10-13 Thread Vaj
I highly recommend The Vedic Experience by Raimondo Panikar--the printed edition (as opposed to the free online edition).Also While the Gods Play by Alain Danielou. Danielou was a disciple of Swami Karpatri, the man who nominated his own guru--Swami Brahmananda Saraswati for the Jyotir Math seat.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I was around 9 or 10 my best friend and I used to > play this game. We would sit quietly and begin to > negate our experience piece by piece. We'd alternate > saying things like, "The tree in the front yard > doesn't e

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Peter
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As a kid, maybe starting at 8 or 10, I had a > repeated "inquiry" -- I > > was a curious sort of kid (as in inquisitive and > odd). I kept > > looking at the sky and

Re: [FairfieldLife] TASTING SUGAR!

2005-10-13 Thread Peter
What a bunch of horses's asses. Amazing. --- Rasa Von Werder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TASTING SUGAR! > > Sri Ramakrishna, the great Avatar, said, > > 'I would rather taste sugar than be sugar.' > > WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN A NEW GROUP ON DUALISM VS NON > DUALISM: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: TASTING SUGAR!

2005-10-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rasa Von Werder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TASTING SUGAR! > > Sri Ramakrishna, the great Avatar, said, > > 'I would rather taste sugar than be sugar.' > > WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN A NEW GROUP ON DUALISM VS NON DUALISM: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/

[FairfieldLife] TASTING SUGAR!

2005-10-13 Thread Rasa Von Werder
TASTING SUGAR! Sri Ramakrishna, the great Avatar, said, 'I would rather taste sugar than be sugar.' WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN A NEW GROUP ON DUALISM VS NON DUALISM: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TastingSugar/ This referred to the question of dualism vs nondualism, with Sri Ramakrishna preferring d

[FairfieldLife] Unreal estate

2005-10-13 Thread TurquoiseB
I've noticed that a lot of folks here are interested in real estate. Here's a Forbes slide show of the ten (really 12) most expensive homes on the market in the US. None of them is in Fairfield. All of them, in my opinon, are God's way of telling people they have *far* too much money. http://w