[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess the simplest definition of an addiction is > > that if you don't indulge in it, you feel like > > something's missing. If it's just enjoyment, you > > can take it or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am also not sure any more whether the technique > actually *does* anything or whether it merely > tricks practitioners into forgetting that they > *can't* do something, and as a result, they can. That sounds like the

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Some samskaras are more addicting that h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > My guess is that there is some level on which most > > > yogic flyers don't *really* believe true levitation > > > (i.e., hovering and beyond, not just Really Big Hops) > > > is possible. They may believe it on an intellectual > > > basis, but not in their gut. > > > > Exactly. I think tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and me and The Knower [Was: Proclaiming ones enlightenment]

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Attending an appointment at my local hospital this morning, the receptionist asked me, 'Who are you?' > ... my mind raced, but no response resulted. Then I spluttered, 'Huh? Oh, oh,..? ... Me! Ah

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > I am also convinced that many of them al

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and me and The Knower [Was: Proclaiming ones enlightenment]

2005-10-14 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Attending an appointment at my local hospital this morning, the receptionist asked me, 'Who are you?' ... my mind raced, but no response resulted. Then I spluttered, 'Huh? Oh, oh,..? ... Me! Ahh Paul Paul Mason. It really is very early to be asking me a question like that!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Whatever floats your boat, I guess. > > Are you addicted to your boat floating? I think you may be onto something here. The thought of the opposite gives me a sinking fee

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Some samskaras are more addicting that heroin. The > > pathological need to be *afraid* that we see in the > > Neocons. The patho

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess the simplest definition of an addiction is > > that if you don't indulge in it, you feel like > > something's missing. If it's just enjoyment, you > > can take it or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the required > > physiological degree of purity to sustain that state which

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be > > > referring to is the kind that you can photograph and > > > perform before a skeptical audience. > > > > Hmmm. I would be one of those skeptics. Exactly where, > > after 30 years or so, are these photographs that show > > "the ki

[FairfieldLife] Karen Blazedale

2005-10-14 Thread Mark
Rick,   You mentioned Karen Blazedale on the list of untimely deaths as dying from a brain tumor. I knew Karen back in the seventies when MIU was in Santa Barabra, Ca and then saw her again in 82. She was interesting in that she was very devoted to the movement, research, etc. Could anyone who m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whatever floats your boat, I guess. Are you addicted to your boat floating? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
"authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess the simplest definition of an addiction is > that if you don't indulge in it, you feel like > something's missing. If it's just enjoyment, you > can take it or leave it, but without feeling deprived > if you leave it. Ah. Good framework for the la

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > So what would you say is the differen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the required > > physiological degree of purity to sustain that state wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the required > physiological degree of purity to sustain that state which allows > them to levitate, but that the ambient atmosphere is fore-checking > this an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I suspect it all depends upon the level of conditioning > > that the fanatic was exposed to. Consider fanatical > > sects within

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Vaj
On Oct 14, 2005, at 1:09 PM, peterklutz wrote:I think serious seekers in the TMO are far closer to E than they might realize, the reason being the fact that they live in a world (until this summer) controlled by Kali. Didn't M. say the opposite, that people would be surprised (at how advanced the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims t

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So what would you say is the difference between an enjoyment > > and an addiction? > > You mean, between an enjoyment and an a

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "a

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > genuine physical immortality is not

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Perhaps we are getting caught up in misunderstood definitions -- > > I merely mean to *identify* areas of pain in ourselves, feel them > > and heal them. Refusal to hea

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I wonder if posting to FFL is an addi

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > If I entertain

[FairfieldLife] Untimely Deaths..... TMers', and New Agers' aversion to allopathic medicine

2005-10-14 Thread mainstream20016
>>In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> It's perceived as untimely because these people cast of their >> mortal coils way ahead of the statistically established life >> expectancy for the society they live in >> This perception is reinforced by the assumption th

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I wonder if posting to FFL is an addiction. I wonder if before > > posting, we should all close our eyes and see if there is some

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > genuine physical immortality is not "physical existence" any > > longer, at least in the sense it is commonly understood. It wou

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wonder if posting to FFL is an addiction. I wonder if before > posting, we should all close our eyes and see if there is some > discomfort in the body. And If so, attentionize and breath through it. > Then open our

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Rory: > > > > If I entertain addictions to adulation, flirtation, and so on, > > > > as a substitute for genuine intimacy and a

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > genuine physical immortality is not "physical existence" any > longer, at least in the sense it is commonly understood. It would > appear to be rather something along the lines of "physically" > understanding all "ph

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
"Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps we are getting caught up in misunderstood definitions -- I > merely mean to *identify* areas of pain in ourselves, feel them and > heal them. Refusal to heal our own pain is a symptom and cause of > surrendering to some addiction or other -- ma

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Rory: > > > > If I entertain addictions to adulation, flirtation, and so on, > > > > as a substitute for genuine intimacy and a

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Rory: > > > > If I entertain addictions to adulation, flirtation, and so on, > > > > as a substitute for genuine intimacy and

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > and I for one read many of your posts, except I > > confess some of the really, really, really long ones. > > As Loud-Zoo said: "Big thoughts require big posts. Big po

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > > > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that > > > > > > > > Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a > > > > > > > > lot of money for his made-up "Patanjali" tech- > > > > > > > > niques, and to keep practicing them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, I am getting a bit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I suspect it all depends upon the level of conditioning > that the fanatic was exposed to. Consider fanatical > sects within the Catholic Church or Muslim faith or > whatever, in which doubt is not only not tolerated,

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
"jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and I for one read many of your posts, except I > confess some of the really, really, really long ones. As Loud-Zoo said: "Big thoughts require big posts. Big posts require big minds to comprehend. Such minds become the Dao." Or was that Homer S. say

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rory: > > > If I entertain addictions to adulation, flirtation, and so on, > > > as a substitute for genuine intimacy and appreciation of > > > Self/Other/Self, those will indeed be "wrong" or "demonic" -- > > > i.e

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Energy (ananda, bliss, laughter, Shiva) = Mass (sat, love, Vishnu) > > times the speed of light (chit, consciousness, Brahma

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rory: > > > If I entertain addictions to adulation, flirtation, and so on, > > > as a substitute for genuine intimacy and appreciation of > > > Self/Other/Self, those will indeed be "wrong" or "demonic" -- > > > i.e

[FairfieldLife] Long Time Initiator Passes On.

2005-10-14 Thread mail_uzer
Tom Reynolds of Philadelphia, PA passed on Tuesday evening (the 11th). He was a close associate of Charlie Lutes and scheduled many of his lectures and visits over nearly 30 years. He was loved and admired by many of the "Friends of Charlie Lutes" on the east coast. Jai Guru Dev --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that > > > > > > > Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a > > > > > > > lot of money for his made-up "Patanjali" tech- > > > > > > > niques, and to keep

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
Rory: > > If I entertain addictions to adulation, flirtation, and so on, as a > > substitute for genuine intimacy and appreciation of > > Self/Other/Self, those will indeed be "wrong" or "demonic" -- i.e., > > diseased, based around pain, an attempt to mask or compensate for > > primal fear,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that > > > > > > Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a > > > > > > lot of money for his made-up "Patanjali" tech- > > > > > > niques, and to keep practicing them? > > > > > > > > > > Okay, I am getting a bit confused here. > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy: > > > > > It's what males *do*, and thank goodness. If they > > > > > didn't, the species wouldn't survive for long. It's > > > > > just funny and charming to see it in this context. > > > > > > > > > I could

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfrien

[FairfieldLife] The Nexus of Politics and Terror

2005-10-14 Thread tazarmfune
• October 12, 2005 | 8:35 p.m. ET The Nexus of Politics and Terror by Keith Olbermann Secaucus - Last Thursday on Countdown, I referred to the latest terror threat - the reported bomb plot against the New York City subway system - in terms of its timing. President Bush's speech about the war

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'll take your word for it. But there seemed to me to > > be a sort of competition going on as to who could write > > the most ela

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-u

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
Judy: > > > > It's what males *do*, and thank goodness. If they > > > > didn't, the species wouldn't survive for long. It's > > > > just funny and charming to see it in this context. > > > > > > > I could be wrong, of course, but I got a chuckle > > > > out of the image. Sorry it pushed your b

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > And it would appear that when one's Brahma or creative consciousness > > withholds approval or Self-knowledge from a given mind-mat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoo

RE: [FairfieldLife] Sat Yuga? Or Scorpions Sinking Into Hell?

2005-10-14 Thread Paula Youmans
  'I'm in the nude for dancing' *     OMG, I would be so nervous that I might bump into someone….pun intended lol.   To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] THE FOLLIES OF MINDLESS RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM

2005-10-14 Thread tantrayudha
THE FOLLIES OF MINDLESS RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM http://groups.yahoo.com/group/naghammadigospels/ Jun 24, 2004 VATICAN PARANOIA SUMMIT http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=531952 By Peter Popham in Rome 16 June 2004 Catholics from more than 25 countries are in Rome this week to ham

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-up 'Pat

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Energy (ananda, bliss, laughter, Shiva) = Mass (sat, love, Vishnu) > times the speed of light (chit, consciousness, Brahma) squared > (aware of itself). Mass resisted (denied the light of self- > knowledge) becomes

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Well, first, it isn't real clear why yo

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Well, first, it isn't real clear why you believe you > > know what kinds of experiences I've had. > > > > And second, it's interest

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims > to > > > be referring to is > > > the kind that you can ph

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, first, it isn't real clear why you believe you > know what kinds of experiences I've had. > > And second, it's interesting that you think my comment > was a function of being pissed off, for whatever > reason.

[FairfieldLife] Sat Yuga? Or Scorpions Sinking Into Hell?

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
'I'm in the nude for dancing' Oct 14 2005 By Robert Dex, South London Press HUNDREDS of clubbers are descending on the country's only nude disco every Saturday night. The craze for letting it all hang out on the dancefloor is pulling in punters to South Central in Kennington Lane. Clubbers h

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BC really stands for Borg Consciousnness. You > will be assimilated. :-) Resistance is indeed futile :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your fav

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths...aversions to allopathic medicine

2005-10-14 Thread mainstream20016
>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > It's perceived as untimely because these people cast of their mortal > > coils way ahead of the statistically established life expectancy for > > the society they live in > > > > This perception is reinforced by the assum

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Perhaps to impress new members? > > > > *lol* I

RE: [FairfieldLife] Literary accent decent ion

2005-10-14 Thread Paula Youmans
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[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > And all of this (four last posts) is your d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-up 'Patanjali' > > techniques." You might want to have a look at the > > Yoga Sutras sometime.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to > > be referring to is > > the kind that you can photograph and perform before > > a skeptical > > audience. > > B

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Don't know about less experienced TMSP practitioners, but there's the > > Vastu thing to consider, andof course, the claim that the Mah

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and me and The Knower [Was: Proclaiming ones enlightenment]

2005-10-14 Thread martyboi
Without a doubt the most useful post on this site I have seen for a very long time. Thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Akasha wrote: > > [snipped Paula's question and the first half of Akasha's reply] > > > But I did not experienc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be referring to > is the kind that you can photograph and perform before a skeptical

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Paula Youmans
Objectively? I belive MMY says that levitation is proof of samadhi. I suppose this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-practitioner repeatedly can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled manner, chances are this person is CC or above.   I’m thinking if what has a

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Paula Youmans
So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed limitations, and become free, we are said to then be 'enlightened'. But it is merely relative to what our past experience has been.     Hi Jim …thanks for your reply. I was thinking about that line you wrote above

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Proclaiming Enlightenment - Now MMY developing sidhis techniques

2005-10-14 Thread Vaj
On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:37 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-up 'Patanjali' techniques."  You might want to have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Proclaiming Enlightenment - Now MMY developing sidhis techniques

2005-10-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-up 'Patanjali' > > techniques." You might want to have a look at the > > Yoga Sutras sometime.)

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And all of this (four last posts) is your direct experience? Or > imaginative speculation. Yes, yes. > And its useful, how? Helps me understand myself. Many thanks for asking :-) Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps to impress new members? > > *lol* I hadn't thought of that, Judy! You think it might work? > Wow! > What would the benefit

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And it would appear that when one's Brahma or creative consciousness > withholds approval or Self-knowledge from a given mind-matter impulse, > then that impulse separates/is separated from the Whole and holds > tha

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps to impress new members? *lol* I hadn't thought of that, Judy! You think it might work? Wow! What would the benefit be to me, I wonder, if new members are impressed? And what do you mean by impressed, anyhow

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Peter
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to > be referring to is > the kind that you can photograph and perform before > a skeptical > audience. But this has never happened, right? So why not talk about the man in the moon? > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that > > > > Maharishi just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Vaj
On Oct 14, 2005, at 3:07 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:On the other hand, I disagree completely with levitation being any measure of one's state of consciousness.  It's  just a skill.  You can either do it or you can't.  It don't say bupkus about your state of consciousness.   If it was then you'd have to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that > > Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a > > lot of money for his made-

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Vaj
On Oct 13, 2005, at 11:20 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote: --- In Fairfiel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Don't know about less experienced TMSP practitioners, but there's the > > Vastu thing to consider, andof course, the claim that the Ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > I told Tom he was enlightened and he t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I believe MMY said that fully-perfected levitation (i.e. > > > floating) > > > (or other sidhi) done on-demand at any time o

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and me and The Knower [Was: Proclaiming ones enlightenment]

2005-10-14 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
Excellent post. Or at least something I have very easy to relate to. Irmeli --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Akasha wrote: > > [snipped Paula's question and the first half of Akasha's reply] > > > But I did not experience that as the st

[FairfieldLife] Hindu and Buddhist concepts

2005-10-14 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
It would make me much easier to read and understand the posts if people, when they use Hindu and Buddhist conceps like avidya, sadhana etc. would try to define the meaning of those concepts also in English. Often I have no idea of their meaning. When in addition to that English is not my native lan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
Irmeli: It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop identifying the 'I' with an image of one's personal self, say there is no 'I' anymore. Peter:Because no "I" or psychological sense of "me" is present. It can't be found. When people (in avidya) say "me" they are refering to a sense of sepa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't know about less experienced TMSP practitioners, but there's the > Vastu thing to consider, andof course, the claim that the Maharishi > Effect exists and would have an effect on individuals during group > practi

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > And all of this (four last posts) is your direct experience? Or > > imaginative speculation. > > > > And its useful, how? > > Perh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-up 'Patanjali' > techniques." You might want to have a look at the > Yoga Sutras sometime.) I have. So, obviously, has Maharishi. He took one look at the verses and said to him

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