--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > His definition of the first (good) type of question
> > seems to be that they have to be based on total and
> > complete surrender and submissi
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>
> MDG often mentions "sama-dhi" meaning something
> like 'even intellect'. Has anybody else heard
> that translation? Is it Maharishi's?
>
I've heard Maharishi use that translation on at least a couple of
occasions (live and on tape). H
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MDG often mentions "sama-dhi" meaning something
like 'even intellect'. Has anybody else heard
that translation? Is it Maharishi's?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "Every day is life. We don't postpone the present based on the hopes
> of a more glorious future...It doesn't just happen all at once, it's
a
> process...what makes you think that if you don't enjoy the process
When was that conference, Rick? I know there was a
two-week conference with about 120 governors in
September 1977, at which time I was on block three of
my citizen sidhis course. Was MMY calling from Europe
at the time? I don't recall ever hearing of him being
in South Fallsburg.
--- Rick Arche
Thank you, Bob.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> What happens in the state of Enlightenment is that one stops being
> things.
>
> http://www.mapi.com/answers/120_Unity_Porous.mp3 (10 mins)
>
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on 3/11/06 7:37 PM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> These were two separate quotes (the one about the exhaust from a bus).
>
> The (other) quote was fairly close to the way I stated it below. Rick,
> please chime in with details. We were sitting in a room with Maharishi
> in Livingston Mano
What happens in the state of Enlightenment is that one stops being
things.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Maharishi's commentary says:
> >
> >This acceptance of the teacher is actually a surrender to the
> > unbounded Truth; it invites the unbounded to shine forth t
> Maharishi's commentary says:
>
>This acceptance of the teacher is actually a surrender to the
> unbounded Truth; it invites the unbounded to shine forth through the
> teacher.
Instead of "the teacher," read "life."
"This acceptance of life is actually a surrender to the
unbounded Truth; it in
Thank you very much for the suggestion. I have the deepest respect
(and affection) for Nisargadatta and consider him one the big
influences in my life, perhaps second in my heart only to Maharishi
and Guru Dev. Coming upon him (here, of course, on FFL) only a few
years after I had re-begun medita
Perhaps so -- and if so, who knows how many different ways what you
have said (below) could be reconciled with what Nisargadatta said or
if that makes any difference; both ways of understanding the monkey
(and bear) armies of the Ramayana speak to different ways of
interpreting the narrative. The
These were two separate quotes (the one about the exhaust from a bus).
The (other) quote was fairly close to the way I stated it below. Rick,
please chime in with details. We were sitting in a room with Maharishi
in Livingston Manor when he came for an unannounced visit, not very
many, maybe 100+
It's "rhetorical," Def. :)
Sal
On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:49 PM, defenders_of_bhakti wrote:
Well, we all know rethoric questions, don't we? (This was a rethoric
question).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > We all know from everyday experience that questions
> > (curiosity) generally can have two very distinct
> > purposes, even in mundane conversation:
> >
> > 1. To actually gain understanding, as sincere inquiries
> Marek Reavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras
> Nisargadatta said on more than one occassion that he preferred to
> speak with Westerners rather than with Indians because the Westerners
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"
> > > wrote:
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> > > > We don't ag
on 3/11/06 2:32 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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>> on 3/11/06 1:40 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>> My understanding of John Black and how he got on the raja course
> comes
>>> from a pe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock
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> >
> > Someone called Gerbil accused Maharishi of taking our own
> teachings and giving it back to us.?? His teachings got better and
> b
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Someone called Gerbil accused Maharishi of taking our own
teachings and giving it back to us.?? His teachings got better and
better over time.??
It's called the Pizza effect. I realized it, when I saw a mode
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Many spiritual seekers have no idea
> how cynical and doubt-laden they actually are. It is this blindness
> and denial of the presence of doubt and cynicism that makes the birth
> of a profound trust impossibl
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote:
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> > > > Don't
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
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> > > wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Michael, have you ever heard the expression, "Get a life"?
> That was meant completely sincerely.
LOL. But you miss the point of Michael's definitions,
Sal. *
Please Note, the Vanarahs of Monkeys are incarnations of Devas. Vali was the incarnation of indra the king of the Devas. Hanuman incarnation of Vayu and so on. Ravana got a boon from Shiva that no celestial could kill him. So the Devas incarnated themselves as Monkeys to assist Vish
Someone called Gerbil accused Maharishi of taking our own teachings and giving it back to us.?? His teachings got better and better over time.?? Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:00:40 -0600Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Fatigue of the Non-Self I b
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Michael, have you ever heard the expression, "Get a life"?
> That was meant completely sincerely.
LOL. But you miss the point of Michael's definitions,
Sal. *You* don't get to decide whether your question
is sinc
Sometime in the 1980's, the Libyan Premier, Muamar Gaddafi approached india for two Nuclear Warheads. He said, in return he would supply unlimited amount of Oil. The Indian government wisely refused the offer. Premanand Paul Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2
On Mar 11, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
We all know from everyday experience that questions (curiosity) gener-
ally can have two very distinct purposes, even in mundane conversation:
1. To actually gain understanding, as sincere inquiries; to create
love/togetherness/unit
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
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> > > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Having now read most of MDG's seemingly endless
> rap, it strikes me that, for someone who
> claims to be functioning from the level of Self,
> there is a great deal of clinging there to the
> notion of *path*. He claim
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A discip
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
>
> > > [...]
> > > > I lo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> on 3/11/06 1:40 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > My understanding of John Black and how he got on the raja course
comes
> > from a person who was friends with John's sister. I was told that
the
> > Bla
SELF-DOUBT AND CYNICISM VS. PROFOUND TRUST
From a Talk by Adyashanti
"There is nothing more insidiously destructive to the attainment of
liberation than self-doubt and cynicism. Doubt is a movement of the
conditioned mind that always claims that "it's not possible ... that
freedom is not possibl
See how much more effective it is to present the
positive side of your beliefs than to whine about
somebody "attacking" them?
And didn't it *feel* better?
I rest my case...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"
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>
> Thank you for a very profound explanatio
Thank you for a very profound explanation, that I appreciate very
much.
Without knowing the term Bhakti - it seems that I the last year
uncounscious has chosen the traditional Bhakti path. I am very aware
of mood-making. But when it comes natural - it feels natural. Not
permanant - maybe in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't you all get tired of this endless inquiry-sSelf or otherwise?
> > > Wasn't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote:
> >
> > Don't you all get tired of this endless inquiry-sSelf or otherwise?
> > Wasn't the initial instruction "meditate and act" without
> > intellectualizing life?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A discipl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> THE STRUGGLE OF INDIVIDUALITY TO PERPETUATE ITS ILLUSION
>Total snip,
Realizing that one is essentailly a facet of eternal oneness,
should we see duality as a problem and, not enjoy it?
Most people
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > A disciple, who had been with this guru for over
> > > > twenty years, ca
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
> "It would be wrong to estimate the state
> of cosmic consciousness in a man by anything
> he displays in the field of action, because
> this state accepts every activity, great or small,
> and at the same time ret
on 3/11/06 1:54 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Don't you all get tired of this endless inquiry-sSelf or otherwise?
> Wasn't the initial instruction "meditate and act" without
> intellectualizing life?
>
> Wasn't it once "Everyday is life, we don't pass up the present based
> on the hop
on 3/11/06 1:40 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My understanding of John Black and how he got on the raja course comes
> from a person who was friends with John's sister. I was told that the
> Black in Black and Decker tools was John's family/dad who die about a
> year or two ago and lef
Thanks for the perfect analysis. I intentionally did not defend
myself, in order to not give him new food..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So many unsupported assumptions and black-and-white
> oversimplifications.
>
> Let me just pick one of them,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"
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> Could you please tell me what the word bhakti means?
Bhakti is a Sanskrit word which means devotion, adoration, love or
worship of the Divine or the Guru as a manifestation thereof. It can
also mean the love of God tow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I repeat my theorem. Real bhaktis just live their
> > lifestyle, quietly. Fake or mood-maker bhaktis tend
> > to feel that they need to defend it.
> You claimed that I said or implied that bhakti should
> not be def
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> >
> > > When someone takes that many words to say something,
> > > especially on an Internet forum,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My understanding of John Black and how he got on the raja course comes
> from a person who was friends with John's sister. I was told that the
> Black in Black and Decker tools was John's family/dad who die about a
> yea
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hint: what I have termed a true bhakti, someone
> who believed in it thoroughly ...
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> "It would be wrong to estimate the state
> of cosmic consciousness in a man by anything
> he displays in the field of action, because
> this state accepts every activity, great or small,
> and at the same time reta
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> > > When someone takes that many words to say something,
> > > especially on an Internet forum,
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > When someone takes that many words to say something,
> > especially on an Internet forum, you can pretty much
> > rest assured that your life will not be negat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't you all get tired of this endless inquiry-sSelf or otherwise?
> Wasn't the initial instruction "meditate and act" without
> intellectualizing life?
>
> Wasn't it once "Everyday is life, we don't pass up the presen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When someone takes that many words to say something,
> especially on an Internet forum, you can pretty much
> rest assured that your life will not be negatively
> affected by pressing the Next key without reading it.
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Having now read most of MDG's seemingly endless
rap, it strikes me that, for someone who
claims to be functioning from the level of Self,
there is a great deal of clinging there to the
notion of *path*. He claims to have realized the
Self, but still talks in terms of the things that
"keep" someone
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > A disciple, who had been with this guru for over
> > > > twenty years, caught h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "purushaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- (non-sequiturs, circular reasoning, tautologies, evidence of raw
> greed...all comes with the territory of the Neo-Advaitins!!).
>
> ---
> >
> > http://www.inner-quest.org/Real_Advaita.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > The f
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Bob Ferguson told this story at the Wellesley TM
> Center back in the mid-70s, except the disciple was
> not Guru Dev and the disciple did not come to a
> satsang to convey what he meant. Considering Bob's
> memory
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
> wrote:
> >
> > > A disciple, who had been with this guru for over
> > > twenty years, caught him in the middle of a sex act
> > > with young boys. He had never
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
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> > > I love everything he says here.
> > >
> > > But why, then, does he come up with
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