[FairfieldLife] Another fascinating Yahoo feature

2006-10-31 Thread TurquoiseB
Use the Advanced search facility and search for 
posts made by any author on October 30. Or use the 
Last 7 days option and see what comes up.

I don't know what you see from the US, but when I
do this, there are zero posts for October 30, even
though they are clearly present in the newsgroup.

Methinks someone forgot to turn the indexer on...






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[FairfieldLife] Living is a process of continual dying

2006-10-31 Thread TurquoiseB
Nicely said. That's what I was trying to convey in 
my rap about different selves dying and new ones
taking their place, with regard to the Tibetan Book 
of the Dead. 

One of the reasons Leary and Alpert co-opted the
Book of the Dead as a manual for acidheads in The
Psychedelic Experience is that parts of it relate
very strongly to the coming down phase of that
drug's effect. LSD (whatever its possible drawbacks)
allowed many people a direct experience of Unity 
and selflessness. The problem (if there was one) 
was when coming down from that perception, and
trying to reintegrate one's new perception of self
into normal life and reconcile it with one's former 
perceptions of self. There was a tendency to want to 
cling to old ways of seeing the world, and of 
seeing the self. 

That's where the Book of the Dead becomes handy
when viewing the process of growing up as the
continual death of old selves and the rebirth of
new ones. In a very real sense, the old me is 
dead and gone. Toast. It's bleedin' demised, an
ex-parrot. :-)

But because we don't yet have a strong sense of
the new self, there is a tendency to cling to 
memories of the old self, and to its modes of
perception and of functioning. There is a sense
of selflessness to the new self, and that is
tough for most people to live with; they prefer
to have something comforting to cling to that 
they consider their self. And, just as some
people remember their past physical lives, when
we go through a major spiritual transformation
and end up wearing a new self, there are some
lingering memories of the past selves.

In the world view I'm talking about, trying to
cling to these old ideas of self is a Bad Idea.
They were appropriate for a former self, in its
former state of attention. They may not be approp-
riate for the new self and its current state of
attention. Attempting to cling to them merely
causes cognitive dissonance, and often psychological
problems. (Just think in more psychoanalytic terms,
those people who are still carrying around memories
of being hurt years or decades ago. They allow these
lingering memories to color all of their perceptions
in their present lives, often to their detriment.)

Anyway, some of the techniques and knowledge that
are expressed in the Book of the Dead can be useful
when going through one of these serious transfor-
mations from one self to another. They present
reminders that one is *not* what one thought one
was, that one is *not* the old self (and in fact is
*not* the current self, either). They can be an aid
in letting go of the past and living in the here
and now. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All of the cells in the human body die and are born in regular cycles. 
 But in addition to this we all have phases. Have you ever looked at
your baby pictures, or picutures from childhood?  Do you realize that
the people in those pictures dont exist anymore.  You exist but the
body that was the 5 year old is no longer and will mostprobably never
be again.  This can be considered a form of death.   Highschool may
have been great maybe you played some sport, were involved with some
theater, had your first girlfriend or boyfriend, whatever that guy
went away.   The moment you passed the the next phase the old phase
was gone.  It exist yes, but only in memory.   You died.   
 
 Another way as with TM.  I was once in a forrest academy and I had a
very scary unstressing experience.   I was meditating and all of the
breath went out of my body.   Then another breath took over.  I was
still no breathing but a different kind of breath that was as if my
whole body was breathing.   I thought I was possesed but the more I
tried to think the more painful.  I had to surrender. I thought I was
possessed.   Ah Ha!  I thought TM  is BULLSHIT.  ALL LIES I thought
they say all of this about life I just died.  I thought I had died in
meditation.  
 
 My whole group went out of the room they thought I was flipping.  
Another off the wall statement.  Anyway that was another way to die. 
 Yet now at nearly 50 those days are memories of another life.   Today
I live in Brasil then I lived in Iowa.   The one good thing about
living many lifetimes in one body is that I can still call home.  Have
you ever tried to call a dead relative?  Not easy.  Well atleast when
you live many lifetimes in one body you can still call home.  
 
 Maybe one day we will be able to communicate with our dead in this
same way.  
 
 Some people you can see in their palms they two life lines on one
palm.  Some will show in their charts that they burn oof much karma in
one phase of their life and the other phase is without negative karma.
  Our individual daily life is a reflection of our macro life.   
 The idea is to burn the karma while in one body so anything you do
after is simply conscious choice.   
 
 On the physical your body is birthing and dying everyday..
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: sparaig 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another fascinating Yahoo feature

2006-10-31 Thread Jason Spock



   Sir Rick, Yahoo bounced me about a week ago. Anybody else had this problem.?? Yahoo should change it's name to BooHoo!TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:09:14 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another fascinating Yahoo "feature"Use the "Advanced" search facility and search for posts made by any author on October 30. Or use the "Last 7 days" option and see what comes up.I don't know what you see
 from the US, but when Ido this, there are zero posts for October 30, eventhough they are clearly present in the newsgroup.Methinks someone forgot to turn the indexer on... 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Living is a process of continual dying

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


I just read what I wrote. WOW! I would have a hard time too. Sometimes I guess my mind moves faster than my fingers. there is a leap from sitting in my pod meditating to being in the classroom discussing experiences. transitions and spelling are bad. maybe I am getting old and arthritic? Dyslexia I know, but the keys are not moving fast enough on my keyboard. I will read before posting.
- Original Message From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:37:31 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Living is a process of continual dying
Nicely said. That's what I was trying to convey in my rap about different selves dying and new onestaking their place, with regard to the Tibetan Book of the Dead. One of the reasons Leary and Alpert co-opted theBook of the Dead as a manual for acidheads in "ThePsychedelic Experience" is that parts of it relatevery strongly to the "coming down" phase of thatdrug's effect. LSD (whatever its possible drawbacks)allowed many people a direct experience of Unity and selflessness. The problem (if there was one) was when "coming down" from that perception, andtrying to reintegrate one's new perception of selfinto "normal" life and reconcile it with one's former perceptions of self. There was a tendency to want to "cling" to old ways of seeing the world, and of seeing the self. That's where the Book of the Dead becomes handywhen viewing the process of "growing up" as thecontinual death of old
 selves and the rebirth ofnew ones. In a very real sense, the old "me" is dead and gone. Toast. It's bleedin' demised, anex-parrot. :-)But because we don't yet have a strong sense ofthe new self, there is a tendency to cling to memories of the old self, and to its modes ofperception and of functioning. There is a senseof selflessness to the "new" self, and that istough for most people to live with; they preferto have something comforting to cling to that they consider their "self." And, just as somepeople remember their past physical lives, whenwe go through a major spiritual transformationand end up "wearing" a new self, there are somelingering memories of the past selves.In the world view I'm talking about, trying tocling to these old ideas of self is a Bad Idea.They were appropriate for a former self, in itsformer state of attention. They may not be approp-riate for the new self and
 its current state ofattention. Attempting to cling to them merelycauses cognitive dissonance, and often psychologicalproblems. (Just think in more psychoanalytic terms,those people who are still carrying around memoriesof being hurt years or decades ago. They allow theselingering memories to color all of their perceptionsin their present lives, often to their detriment.)Anyway, some of the techniques and knowledge thatare expressed in the Book of the Dead can be usefulwhen going through one of these serious transfor-mations from one self to another. They present"reminders" that one is *not* what one thought onewas, that one is *not* the old self (and in fact is*not* the current self, either). They can be an aidin letting go of the past and living in the hereand now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of the cells in the human body die
 and are born in regular cycles.  But in addition to this we all have phases. Have you ever looked atyour baby pictures, or picutures from childhood?Do you realize thatthe people in those pictures dont exist anymore.You exist but thebody that was the 5 year old is no longer and will mostprobably neverbe again.This can be considered a form of death. Highschool mayhave been great maybe you played some sport, were involved with sometheater, had your first girlfriend or boyfriend, whatever that guywent away. The moment you passed the the next phase the old phasewas gone.It exist yes, but only in memory. You died.   Another way as with TM.I was once in a forrest academy and I had avery scary unstressing experience. I was meditating and all of thebreath went out of my body. Then another
 breath took over.I wasstill no breathing but a different kind of breath that was as if mywhole body was breathing. I thought I was possesed but the more Itried to think the more painful.I had to surrender. I thought I waspossessed. Ah Ha!I thought TMis BULLSHIT.ALL LIES I thoughtthey say all of this about life I just died.I thought I had died inmeditation.  My whole group went out of the room they thought I was flipping.Another off the wall statement.Anyway that was another way to die. Yet now at nearly 50 those days are memories of another life. TodayI live in Brasil then I lived in Iowa. The one good thing aboutliving many lifetimes in one body is that I can still call home.Haveyou ever tried to call a dead relative?Not
 easy.Well atleast whenyou live many lifetimes in one body you can still call home.  Maybe one day we will be able to communicate with our dead in thissame way.  Some people you can see 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


is that www.alt.meditation.transcendental.com
- Original Message From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:02:36 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you
You should go on to alt.meditation.transcendental in Google Groups and meet John Manning who is also an ex-patriate American living in Brazil.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excuse me I just like to write in these groups in a relaxed manner. Perhaps I should atleast do a spell check. I have to write so much of the time for business that I just write as a way of talking in these post.   Right now the stress and tension here is very high so this forum is great for me. It is a was as curtis wrote of letting off steam. I like this group. Wow connecting with Pam and Rik and other people who were in my classes is very nice.I live in a country where I have no history, no family and no one to say I remember when. So sometimes I may write a
 lot. I speak portuguese 20 hours per day. In my home no one speaks english thank god for cable.   Sometimes it is nice to communicate with people that have a common basis for thinking and understanding.   THanksTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
  wrote:
  
   No time for that sir. didn't realize the rambling. thanks for 
   the feed back take it to heart I will watch yours for examples 
  on how to do a good post.
  
  You should really look at either (or both) Judy and Barry 
  (turquoise).  They are both professional writers and they practise 
  what they preach.  Putting aside their world views, they have 
  wonderful writing styles and you would do well to follow their 
  examples.
 
 Bad idea. :-)
 
 Seriously, Louis' writing style is just fine.
 One sure and certain way to divest your own
 way of expressing yourself of any shred of
 its own individuality is to copy someone else's
 writing style. As long as it's understandable,
 it's correct IMO.


I always thought this was a good writing exercise...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Obese responsible for everything bad

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/weekinreview/29kolata.html
  
  
  At nearly 2x my optimal weight, I certainly think obesity is bad 
 for me...
 
 
 *
 
 I'm sure you know that the hollow of the throat sutra used to be 
 taught, a few years before the rest of the Siddhis, as an anti-
 overeating technique -- maybe throw in some xtra reps of this.
 
 For myself, I was between 195-200 on my 5'9 two years ago, but just 
 by cutting way back on one item (butter, which I used to use 
 liberally) in my vegetarian diet, I lost 25 lbs and am now 170-75, 
 only slightly overweight on the BMI -- I'd like to get to 160-65 (my 
 high-school grad weight) and stay there.



Anal-retentive that I am, I avoid taking spiritual advice over the internet... 
Thanks though.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another fascinating Yahoo feature

2006-10-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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   Sir Rick, Yahoo bounced me about a week ago.  Anybody else
 had this problem.??

I haven't, but Alex Stanley left a post some days ago
that it had happened to him, and some people were
complaining about being bounced on several other 
Yahoo Groups that I read.  So it's not just you by any
means.

   Yahoo should change it's name to BooHoo!

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you

2006-10-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 is that www.alt.meditation.transcendental.com

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation.transcendental/about?hl=en

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-10-31 Thread Peter
Sir, I'd question my manhood with such a shameful
remark! 

--- Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sports.. snore.
 
 gullible fool wrote:
  So's the Patriots-Vikings game. Tom Brady in
 action.
  Laurence Maroney in action. Tres cool. 
 
  --- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  Heroes is on tonight at 9:00 EST. Don't miss
 it.
  See
  real siddas in action. The guy that flies would
 make
  any of our TMO frog hoppers jealous. He shoots
 off
  from the ground at about mach 3. Tres cool!
 
 
   
 
  
 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Living is a process of continual dying

2006-10-31 Thread llundrub





You must be a posting newbie to not proofread your 
own stuff.



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Louis McKenzie 
  
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:53 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living is a 
  process of continual dying
  
  
  I 
  just read what I wrote. WOW! I would have a hard time too. Sometimes I 
  guess my mind moves faster than my fingers. there is a leap from 
  sitting in my pod meditating to being in the classroom discussing 
  experiences. transitions and spelling are bad. maybe I 
  am getting old and arthritic? Dyslexia I know, but the keys are 
  not moving fast enough on my keyboard. I will read before 
  posting.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry

2006-10-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for the tip on avocado pits in a smooothy.  Is it really good?
I have never eaten it. I'll have to do a search to see if anyone else
is preparing it somehow.  It is so freak'n big it would be nice not to
throw it away. The Vietnamese people here make avocado sweet smoothies
with sweetened condensed milk.

I also like key limes, but your ability to allow them to totally ripen
on the tree is where the magic happens.  I am jealous.  I also have 
kafir lime plant and use the leaves.  The Thai people here use the
zest of the fruit, not the juice for curries, but mine has never
produced fruit so I have to buy them frozen.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Try planting Meyer lemons -- not as sour. I've got one in my yard
here
  in So Cal, and apart from the dastardly thorns, they're a good lemon:
  
  Meyer lemons rule!  I buy them at Whole foods whenever I see them. 
  Having them growing in your yard is the coolest thing ever.  If you
  had an avocado or Kit mango tree also I would declare you living in
  heaven.  I made some great Limoncello Liqueur with Meyer lemons.
  
 
 You are SO RIGHT about the avocado and Kit mango trees! We practically
 fast on them and add the avocado pits to smoothies.
 But about the Meyer lemons, the key limes from our tree beat them out,
 esp. if left on the tree to ripen so much that they fall off. They
 have a complex taste, about 5 tastes in one.
 We tried a Sweet Lemon tree (a Middle Eastern fruit apparently) and
 they really did taste like lemonade! Unfortunately they never
 developed any juiciness no matter what we did. It might be because
 we're in FL not Cal.; we couldn't get juicy blood oranges and
 pomegranates either.
 We also have a kaffir lime tree which we use for the leaves. It has
 never fruited so I don't know what they're like.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity

2006-10-31 Thread llundrub
Maybe that's you Jyouells, but I must always say that I had very nice 
residence courses and WPAs.  The baskets were plesant thoughts, and gave 
someone a happy job to do.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My favorite line:

 Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked
 grand.

 Second favorite line:

 Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to
 garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and
 small gifts, bagpiper.

 Nothing says welcome to America to an Indian man like a bagpiper!
 I'm guessing that Mike Meyers was right: If it's not Scottish, it's
 crpp!!



 My favorite was:

 As the bus pulled up, the twenty-five or so men all waving sparklers
 formed into two welcoming lines   (Just imagine this for a minute)

 And I was thinking that there is a small possibility that the bagpiper
 made a few bucks.

 I remember arriving at MIU in 1977 around Midnight and got a fine pod
 room with about 2000 moths in it and no bedding ... It it was grand,
 smart and momentus. :-)

 JohnY




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread dhamiltony2k5
'Untrustworthy'.  Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and 
what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become 
untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was 
in this 1974 quote below.  It's what it has become evidently: 
untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. 

Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi, 
as a teacher or his teaching or business man?  'Untrustworthy'?  
Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up.  The 
Maharishi Effect?  What to do to right things with folks and bring 
them back?

-Doug in FF



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:

I
 would never, ever give money directly to the TMO
 because they are completely untrustworthy and have
 achieved that status through great effort over many
 decades on their part.


   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie
   ltm457@ wrote:
   
If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were
   going to make a donation to either SSRS 
   or MMY which would you choose?
   
  
  Of course it is. Don't be silly. I do Sudarshan Kriya
  before my TM program every day.
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From March 12, 1974, Belgium.
 
 Questioner:
 
 What do you think of other meditation techniques and is it 
possible 
 to practice another meditation technique at the same time as 
 transcendental meditation `specially if the other meditation 
 technique is in connection with a religion?
 
 Maharishi:
 
 What we teach is something to be done 15, 20 minutes morning and 
 evening.  Regarding other things? We have no opinion.  We leave a 
 man to do what he wants to do.  We just teach Transcendental 
 Meditation, give the knowledge of the pure creative intelligence.  
 What he should do, what he should not do, he will decide in his 
own 
 level of consciousness.  Nothing, neither we advice on religion, 
nor 
 diets, nor anything, do's and don'ts we don't talk about.  Simply, 
 innocently teach the practice, give the knowledge pertaining to 
the 
 practice, satisfy all the doubt and questions regarding 
 understanding and then leave the man to be with his tradition, 
with 
 his culture, with his way of life, with everything that he wants 
to 
 do.
 
 Just 15 minutes morning and evening.  He can practice hundreds of 
 meditations, we don't mind. As long as he does this 15-minutes, 20-
 minutes morning and evening, he will enjoy, begin to enjoy 
 everything that he will do, either meditation or no meditation or 
 whatever. Whatever he will do in life, he will begin to enjoy more 
 because everything will become more meaningful.  Just we concern 
 ourselves with this practical aspect of this science.  Simple.  
Very 
 simple, very natural.
 
 One of the strengths of the World Plan is this innocence of our 
 Movement, we never go into any other area except Transcendental 
 Meditation.  That's all
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Suydarshan Kriya is
  great. I love it. I've been doing it for 15 years now.
  If I had millions of dollars to give away I'd give a
  portion to the Sisters of Charity in Miami (Mother
  Teresa's organization), a portion to SSRS because he
  and his Art of Living organization are straight
  shooters, and then I'd sponser some guys on Purusha. I
  would never, ever give money directly to the TMO
  because they are completely untrustworthy and have
  achieved that status through great effort over many
  decades on their part.
  
  
  
  
   
   
   
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Curtis

2006-10-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
Shemp,

Sorry that I missed your question about Injera bread.  This project is
a work in progress so I'll tell you what I have learned so far.

You: 1) what is the ratio to millet, tef, and water that you make the
initial mixture out of and how long do you ferment it before it
becomes a useable pancake dough.

Me: All the Ethiopians I talked with cut the Teff flour with
self-rising white flour.  Some use half and half, some even more white
flour.  You need the glutton in the flour for it to hold together. 
That may have been what made yours unwieldy, not enough flour. Teff
has not glutton. You need baking powder to get it to rise and make
those cool holes and the spongy texture.  Even though most baking is a
science, and exact measurements should be possible, I don't cook that
way so I can't give you a recipe.  There are some on the Web and I
started there.

I am a sourdough nut so I knew that the real traditional Ethiopian
Injera must have been made with sourdough cultures.  This is the most
amazing baking secret I have ever learned. (adding hype and suspense!)
 http://www.sourdo.com/  This guy is the sourdough paramguru.  He
sells specific cultures of lactobacillus bacteria paired with the
unique wild yeast of specific regions from the world. No more hit or
miss breads made from the anemic yeasts of your own area.  These are
the world famous single cell couples who dance like Astaire and Rogers
together. It makes all the difference in the world.  I have been using
the San Francisco culture for years and the flavor is off the charts.
 I also have a quicker rising one from Russia that lacks some of the
flavor, but is faster growing when I am in a hurry.  There are plenty
of great regular yeasted breads in local markets in DC.  But nobody
sells the kind of funky sourdough, wholegrain bread that I can make
with these cultures.  I even use it at Christmas for traditional
Stollen breads, made like in the Middle Ages with sourdough in a sweet
bread. 

Back to Injera...I use the San Fran culture with a mix of Teff and the
white whole wheat King Arther Flour (it is whole wheat but lighter and
softer than the usual whole wheat) and a little all purpose flour and
let it ferment with my culture for 3 days.  I love sour so you may not
want it to go this long.  I usually add some baking powder to the
batter, and a little salt, lightly oil the no-stick pan, on
medium-high heat, and put a top on it while it cooks to steam the
bread a little.  I usually turn it over once, although this is not
traditional.  It is not precisely the texture of good light spongy
Injera, but the flavor is fantastic.  I am still balancing those two
factors, but it always come out plenty good enough. I make a mixed
veggie curry, sometimes using goat meat, and pick it up with pieces of
the breads hot off the skillet.

I hope that helps.  This is a worthy mission.  I feel as though I am
connected with early humans figuring out cool ways to eat when I make
this kind of primitive bread.  Let me know what you have learned.



2) how do you then make the injera: on a frying pan? With or without
oil? What else can you tell me that I need to know?


I've tried making it before with usually disasterous results (firstly,
I didn't cut the tef with millet and the sour flavor was TOO sour!
and, secondly, the crepe was too unwieldy for me).





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 about a week ago you posted something about Ethiopean food.  I 
 responded to it asking you how you made injera but either you didn't 
 respond or I didn't see your response.
 
 I'm wondering if you'd be kind enough to answer a few questions:
 
 1) what is the ratio to millet, tef, and water that you make the 
 initial mixture out of and how long do you ferment it before it 
 becomes a useable pancake dough.
 
 2) how do you then make the injera: on a frying pan?  With or without 
 oil?  What else can you tell me that I need to know?
 
 I've tried making it before with usually disasterous results (firstly, 
 I didn't cut the tef with millet and the sour flavor was TOO sour! 
 and, secondly, the crepe was too unwieldy for me).






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity

2006-10-31 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
  j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   My favorite line:
   
   Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out.
   He looked grand.
 
 The thing I couldn't help noticing is that he only
 showed up to check everything out. One gets the
 feeling that he wasn't actually gettin' down and
 dirty with the construction work. 

Of course, not! That would be undignified. My bro, the Raja of
Denver,
can't even take his kids to the MUM pool because it would be like
hanging out with commoners or some such. Technically, he's not
even
supposed to drive; he's supposed to be chauffeured around.
Rajas have
a whole 'nuther set of rules and regulations to follow. 

Thankfully, being the mere brother of a Raja doesn't impact my
life at
all, except that people now ask me what it's like to be the
brother of
a Raja.
   
   
   Do you disagree with my assessment that it is a loyalty test:
   only somone loyal to MMY would put up with the BS?
  
  I have no opinion one way or the other about your assessment.
 
 
 Do you think any of the rajas are NOT loyal to MMY and the TMO?

Each of the rajas have given MMY at least $1 million and maybe much
more, so that's a strong incentive to stay loyal because to not stay
loyal is in effect admitted you were gullible to give someone who
didn't deserve it a ton of money.  There's strong psych-ego motivation
to not let that sitation happened.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Renowned Scientist Defects From Belief in Global Warming

2006-10-31 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
   Majority Press Release  
   Contact:  MARC MORANO (202) 224-5762 (marc_morano@), 
   MATT DEMPSEY (202) 224-9797 (matthew_dempsey@)  
  bigshnip
  I presume then that you and your crowd will refuse to benefit 
from the massive acreage increase and resources that become 
available when the Antarctic land mass becomes ice-free.

That will be handy for the citizens of Mannhatten Island.

The latest report suggests spending 1% now will save 
spending 20% GDP later:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6093396.stm
In the meanwhile, the chinese are spending £189B
on alternative technologies; so, we will be spending 
a few bob on their patent royalties:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2006-10/30/content_719770.htm




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig wrote:
  Alex Stanley wrote:
spare egg wrote:
   cold blu ice man wrote: 
   As no pundit worth his salt would 
   make a claim
   (or allow another to 
   make a claim) that would insinuate 
   a group of pundits 
   chanting Vedic verses could 
   change the course of human events.
   
  What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
  This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  

Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
i must politley inform you that the photo you are lokking at is the--
 Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the Jamuna/Yamuna river.

The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once every 12 years at the 
junction of the three sacred rivers (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
and attended by more than 40 million people. Now the dates of the 
Khumba Mela are set to the specific location using astrological 
calculations based upon the placement of planet Jupiter, also there 
are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years on the Jamuna River.

 ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years in rotation at 
Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, according to the 
placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. A modern innovation, there are 
also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, every six years at Haridwar 
and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
that the largest number of human beings in history gathered--15 
million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, logistically less convenient, 
managed ten million on April 14, 1998. Still, that's five times this 
year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed to Mecca for the 
Haj, the second largest gathering... 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml

Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??

 According to Steve Perino, 
 no pundit worth his salt would make the
 claim that would 
 insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
 Vedic verses could change the course of human 
 events

i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until his doctors have screened 
him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
But having said that- if indeed that was a world peace gathering 
in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated 
millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??

How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  jim flanegin wrote:
   coldbluiceman wrote:
   snip So please tell me *Exactly* the 
   predicted outcome, right now 
   for the
   entire duration of the pundits stay in America?
   snip 
   Here is mine.. **Absolutely Nothing**!!
  
  I think Turq [quoting Richard Bach] said it 
  best several hundred posts 
  ago, Argue for your limitations, and they are yours.
 
 Namaste Sir JimJi..,
 i must politley remind you of Michael Murphy's line in an old 
Doobie 
 Bros. song-, ..What a fool believes.

Lol! Good one!


 You are indeed free to believe anything you wish, and have blind 
 faith 
 in your beliefs. 
 Just as you personally believe(and have blind faith in your 
belief) 
 that-- Jim Flanegin is somehow tied into Lord Sri Shiva and Sri 
 Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Jyosimutt Swami BrahmanadJi via his 
 relationship with Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma..
 
 Which i understand to be just a blind faith belief system held by 
 Jim 
 Flanegin. 
 As, having met Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma on 3 
 occasions, and objectively reviewing his spurious claims dating 
back 
 to May 1953..,i never got the impression he-brahmachari Mahesh was 
 divienly inspired by any Personal Form of God.
 In fact as near as i can tell Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad 
 Varma's inspiration comes from Raam notes / $money$.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Living is a process of continual dying

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


Thanks
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just read what I wrote. WOW! I would have a hard time too.Sometimes I guess my mind moves faster than my fingers. there is a leap from sitting in my pod meditating to being in the classroom discussing experiences. transitions and spelling are bad. maybe I am getting old and arthritic? Dyslexia I know, but the keys are not moving fast enough on my keyboard. I will read before posting.As I said in an earlier post, I would rather seemore writing from you, even with the occasionalspelling mistake or imperfect transition, thanless because you're taking the time to edit yourposts rather than writing new ones.Posting here isn't about getting good grades inEnglish composition, it's about saying stuffthat's interesting, and you've been doing moreof that
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread coldbluiceman
 jim flanegin wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
  snip So please tell me *Exactly* the 
  predicted outcome, right now 
  for the
  entire duration of the pundits stay in America?
  snip 
  Here is mine.. **Absolutely Nothing**!!
 
 I think Turq [quoting Richard Bach] said it 
 best several hundred posts 
 ago, Argue for your limitations, and they are yours.

Namaste Sir JimJi..,
i must politley remind you of Michael Murphy's line in an old Doobie 
Bros. song-, ..What a fool believes.

You are indeed free to believe anything you wish, and have blind 
faith 
in your beliefs. 
Just as you personally believe(and have blind faith in your belief) 
that-- Jim Flanegin is somehow tied into Lord Sri Shiva and Sri 
Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Jyosimutt Swami BrahmanadJi via his 
relationship with Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma..

Which i understand to be just a blind faith belief system held by 
Jim 
Flanegin. 
As, having met Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma on 3 
occasions, and objectively reviewing his spurious claims dating back 
to May 1953..,i never got the impression he-brahmachari Mahesh was 
divienly inspired by any Personal Form of God.
In fact as near as i can tell Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh Prasad 
Varma's inspiration comes from Raam notes / $money$.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry

2006-10-31 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry





on 10/31/06 9:19 AM, vashtirama at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues
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 Try planting Meyer lemons -- not as sour. I've got one in my yard here
 in So Cal, and apart from the dastardly thorns, they're a good lemon:
 
 Meyer lemons rule! I buy them at Whole foods whenever I see them. 
 Having them growing in your yard is the coolest thing ever. If you
 had an avocado or Kit mango tree also I would declare you living in
 heaven. I made some great Limoncello Liqueur with Meyer lemons.
 

You are SO RIGHT about the avocado and Kit mango trees! We practically
fast on them and add the avocado pits to smoothies.

You can eat avocado pits? I didnt know that. Please elaborate.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
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 Are there any organic food distributors in fairfield?

Heh. The TMO has its own organic food certification program...


So yes, yes there are. 

Vedic City ONLY sells organic food...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
  wrote:
  
   is that www.alt.meditation.transcendental.com
  
  Yup.
 
 No, it isn't!  It's a long Google URL.  I posted
 it in an earlier message.



Sorry, I' missed the .com part at the end.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  sparaig wrote:
   Alex Stanley wrote:
 spare egg wrote:
cold blu ice man wrote: 
As no pundit worth his salt would 
make a claim
(or allow another to 
make a claim) that would insinuate 
a group of pundits 
chanting Vedic verses could 
change the course of human events.

   What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
   This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  
 
 Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
 i must politley inform you that the photo you are lokking at is the--
  Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the Jamuna/Yamuna river.
 
 The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once every 12 years at the 
 junction of the three sacred rivers (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
 and attended by more than 40 million people. Now the dates of the 
 Khumba Mela are set to the specific location using astrological 
 calculations based upon the placement of planet Jupiter, also there 
 are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years on the Jamuna River.
 
  ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years in rotation at 
 Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, according to the 
 placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. A modern innovation, there are 
 also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, every six years at Haridwar 
 and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
 that the largest number of human beings in history gathered--15 
 million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, logistically less convenient, 
 managed ten million on April 14, 1998. Still, that's five times this 
 year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed to Mecca for the 
 Haj, the second largest gathering... 
 http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
 
 Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??
 
  According to Steve Perino, 
  no pundit worth his salt would make the
  claim that would 
  insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
  Vedic verses could change the course of human 
  events
 
 i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until his doctors have screened 
 him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
 But having said that- if indeed that was a world peace gathering 
 in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
 It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated 
 millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??
 
 How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?


I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, merely on your claim that 
they are 
not traditional.

I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?

Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you

2006-10-31 Thread authfriend
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
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   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
   wrote:
   
is that www.alt.meditation.transcendental.com
   
   Yup.
  
  No, it isn't!  It's a long Google URL.  I posted
  it in an earlier message.
 
 Sorry, I' missed the .com part at the end.

Here it is again:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation.transcendental/about?
hl=en





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry

2006-10-31 Thread vashtirama
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the tip on avocado pits in a smooothy.  Is it really good?
 I have never eaten it. I'll have to do a search to see if anyone else
 is preparing it somehow.  It is so freak'n big it would be nice not to
 throw it away. The Vietnamese people here make avocado sweet smoothies
 with sweetened condensed milk.
 
 I also like key limes, but your ability to allow them to totally ripen
 on the tree is where the magic happens.  I am jealous.  I also have 
 kafir lime plant and use the leaves.  The Thai people here use the
 zest of the fruit, not the juice for curries, but mine has never
 produced fruit so I have to buy them frozen.
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama vashtirama@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   Try planting Meyer lemons -- not as sour. I've got one in my yard
 here
   in So Cal, and apart from the dastardly thorns, they're a good
lemon:
   
   Meyer lemons rule!  I buy them at Whole foods whenever I see them. 
   Having them growing in your yard is the coolest thing ever.  If you
   had an avocado or Kit mango tree also I would declare you living in
   heaven.  I made some great Limoncello Liqueur with Meyer lemons.
   
  
  You are SO RIGHT about the avocado and Kit mango trees! We practically
  fast on them and add the avocado pits to smoothies.
  But about the Meyer lemons, the key limes from our tree beat them out,
  esp. if left on the tree to ripen so much that they fall off. They
  have a complex taste, about 5 tastes in one.
  We tried a Sweet Lemon tree (a Middle Eastern fruit apparently) and
  they really did taste like lemonade! Unfortunately they never
  developed any juiciness no matter what we did. It might be because
  we're in FL not Cal.; we couldn't get juicy blood oranges and
  pomegranates either.
  We also have a kaffir lime tree which we use for the leaves. It has
  never fruited so I don't know what they're like.

I haven't been able to detect the taste of the pit yet. It's supposed
to be an excellent source of soluble fiber so the smoothie is more
satisfying for longer than the usual fruity smoothie and keeps my
blood sugar level even. One pit goes into a 4-smoothie batch (blended
by a 3 horsepower K-tec). We throw it in whole because it's too hard
to cut. The blender has no trouble with it though, whereas there is
always a grit left after it blends blackberry or pomegranate seeds. On
the internet I only found 1 mention of ingesting it: it is grated and
used medicinally in Mexico. Looks like the whole tree is toxic to many
animals but when we had our pet iguanas they lunged at avocado leaves
with pure glee. An iguana whisperer suggested once that this is
because avocadoes and cinnamon are in the same family. The iguanas 
also loved leaves from our cinnamon tree.

We learned of adding the pit to smoothies at a raw foodist class
regarding using smoothies for healing. That lack of any mention on the
internet to back this up makes me wonder! Not that the internet is
authoritative about anything, but gee, I'm not going to rave about
eating avocado pits all day every day and that everybody should do it!

You can use the inner pit of the mango too, and in some countries it's
ground and used as flour, but it's too much work for me to get it out
of its casing, plus so many people have allergies to the tree around
here that I'm not eager to eat more parts of the mango. (It's in the
same family as poison ivy. Pink peppercorns, and cashews too--another
tree that's so toxic, people can die from the fumes of roasting the
cashews. Even the cashews sold as 'raw' have been heated to become
edible.)

Raw foodists make amazing things with the avocado flesh, such as
chocolate mousse!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread coldbluiceman
 spare egg Lawson English wrote:
  cold blu ice man wrote:
   sparaig wrote:
Alex Stanley wrote:
  spare egg wrote:
 cold blu ice man wrote: 
 As no pundit worth his salt would 
 make a claim
 (or allow another to 
 make a claim) that would insinuate 
 a group of pundits 
 chanting Vedic verses could 
 change the course of human events.
 
What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  
  
  Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
  i must politley inform you that the photo you 
  are looking at is the--
  Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
  Jamuna/Yamuna river.
  The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
  every 12 years at the 
  junction of the three sacred rivers 
  (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
  and attended by more than 40 million people. 
  Now the dates of the 
  Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
  using astrological 
  calculations based upon the placement of 
  planet Jupiter, also there 
  are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
  on the Jamuna River.
  
   ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
  in rotation at 
  Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
  according to the 
  placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
  A modern innovation, there are 
  also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
  every six years at Haridwar 
  and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
  Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
  that the largest number of human beings in 
  history gathered--15 
  million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
  logistically less convenient, 
  managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
  Still, that's five times this 
  year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
  to Mecca for the 
  Haj, the second largest gathering... 
  http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
  
  Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??
  
   According to Steve Perino, 
   no pundit worth his salt would make the
   claim that would 
   insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
   Vedic verses could change the course of human 
   events
  
  i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
  his doctors have screened 
  him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
  But having said that- if indeed that 
  was a world peace gathering 
  in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
  It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated 
  millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??
  
  How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?
 
 
 I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
 merely on your claim that they are 
 not traditional.

Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??

Stop making this stuff up!!..i am stop posting to you if you don't 
get professional help.

 I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?

Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) with desired personal 
results for all aspects of family life with regards to *PERSONAL* 
spiritual upliftment:
1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
3. EQUALITY 
4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
http://urday.com/panch-2.html

 Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya

Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., now please 
get screened by your professional mental health care provider..for 
your family's sake.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Curtis

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
Thanks so much for the detailed response!

Now I gotta find the time to experiment and make it. My ideal meal 
is to have injera with some dahls as well as gomen wat (the collard 
green dish).



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
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 Shemp,
 
 Sorry that I missed your question about Injera bread.  This 
project is
 a work in progress so I'll tell you what I have learned so far.
 
 You: 1) what is the ratio to millet, tef, and water that you make 
the
 initial mixture out of and how long do you ferment it before it
 becomes a useable pancake dough.
 
 Me: All the Ethiopians I talked with cut the Teff flour with
 self-rising white flour.  Some use half and half, some even more 
white
 flour.  You need the glutton in the flour for it to hold together. 
 That may have been what made yours unwieldy, not enough flour. Teff
 has not glutton. You need baking powder to get it to rise and make
 those cool holes and the spongy texture.  Even though most baking 
is a
 science, and exact measurements should be possible, I don't cook 
that
 way so I can't give you a recipe.  There are some on the Web and I
 started there.
 
 I am a sourdough nut so I knew that the real traditional Ethiopian
 Injera must have been made with sourdough cultures.  This is the 
most
 amazing baking secret I have ever learned. (adding hype and 
suspense!)
  http://www.sourdo.com/  This guy is the sourdough paramguru.  He
 sells specific cultures of lactobacillus bacteria paired with the
 unique wild yeast of specific regions from the world. No more hit 
or
 miss breads made from the anemic yeasts of your own area.  These 
are
 the world famous single cell couples who dance like Astaire and 
Rogers
 together. It makes all the difference in the world.  I have been 
using
 the San Francisco culture for years and the flavor is off the 
charts.
  I also have a quicker rising one from Russia that lacks some of 
the
 flavor, but is faster growing when I am in a hurry.  There are 
plenty
 of great regular yeasted breads in local markets in DC.  But nobody
 sells the kind of funky sourdough, wholegrain bread that I can make
 with these cultures.  I even use it at Christmas for traditional
 Stollen breads, made like in the Middle Ages with sourdough in a 
sweet
 bread. 
 
 Back to Injera...I use the San Fran culture with a mix of Teff and 
the
 white whole wheat King Arther Flour (it is whole wheat but lighter 
and
 softer than the usual whole wheat) and a little all purpose flour 
and
 let it ferment with my culture for 3 days.  I love sour so you may 
not
 want it to go this long.  I usually add some baking powder to the
 batter, and a little salt, lightly oil the no-stick pan, on
 medium-high heat, and put a top on it while it cooks to steam the
 bread a little.  I usually turn it over once, although this is not
 traditional.  It is not precisely the texture of good light spongy
 Injera, but the flavor is fantastic.  I am still balancing those 
two
 factors, but it always come out plenty good enough. I make a mixed
 veggie curry, sometimes using goat meat, and pick it up with 
pieces of
 the breads hot off the skillet.
 
 I hope that helps.  This is a worthy mission.  I feel as though I 
am
 connected with early humans figuring out cool ways to eat when I 
make
 this kind of primitive bread.  Let me know what you have learned.
 
 
 
 2) how do you then make the injera: on a frying pan? With or 
without
 oil? What else can you tell me that I need to know?
 
 
 I've tried making it before with usually disasterous results 
(firstly,
 I didn't cut the tef with millet and the sour flavor was TOO 
sour!
 and, secondly, the crepe was too unwieldy for me).
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  about a week ago you posted something about Ethiopean food.  I 
  responded to it asking you how you made injera but either you 
didn't 
  respond or I didn't see your response.
  
  I'm wondering if you'd be kind enough to answer a few questions:
  
  1) what is the ratio to millet, tef, and water that you make the 
  initial mixture out of and how long do you ferment it before it 
  becomes a useable pancake dough.
  
  2) how do you then make the injera: on a frying pan?  With or 
without 
  oil?  What else can you tell me that I need to know?
  
  I've tried making it before with usually disasterous results 
(firstly, 
  I didn't cut the tef with millet and the sour flavor was TOO 
sour! 
  and, secondly, the crepe was too unwieldy for me).
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you

2006-10-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
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  is that www.alt.meditation.transcendental.com
 
 Yup.

No, it isn't!  It's a long Google URL.  I posted
it in an earlier message.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 is that www.alt.meditation.transcendental.com


Yup.



 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:02:36 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you
 
 
 You should go on to alt.meditation.transcendental in Google Groups 
 and meet John Manning who is also an ex-patriate American living 
in 
 Brazil.
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
 wrote:
 
  Excuse me I just like to write in these groups in a relaxed 
 manner.   Perhaps I should atleast do a spell check.   I have to 
 write so much of the time for business that I just write as a way 
of 
 talking in these post.   
  
  Right now the stress and tension here is very high so this forum 
 is great for me.   It is a was as curtis wrote of letting off 
 steam.   I like this group.   Wow connecting with Pam and Rik and 
 other people who were in my classes is very nice.  I live in a 
 country where I have no history, no family and no one to say I 
 remember when.   So sometimes I may write a lot.   I speak 
 portuguese 20 hours per day.   In my home no one speaks english 
 thank god for cable.   
  
  Sometimes it is nice to communicate with people that have a 
common 
 basis for thinking and understanding.
  
  
  THanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity

2006-10-31 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe that's you Jyouells, but I must always say that I had very nice 
 residence courses and WPAs.  The baskets were plesant thoughts, and
gave 
 someone a happy job to do.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:44 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  My favorite line:
 
  Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked
  grand.
 
  Second favorite line:
 
  Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to
  garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and
  small gifts, bagpiper.
 
  Nothing says welcome to America to an Indian man like a bagpiper!
  I'm guessing that Mike Meyers was right: If it's not Scottish, it's
  crpp!!
 
 
 
  My favorite was:
 
  As the bus pulled up, the twenty-five or so men all waving sparklers
  formed into two welcoming lines   (Just imagine this for a
minute)
 
  And I was thinking that there is a small possibility that the bagpiper
  made a few bucks.
 
  I remember arriving at MIU in 1977 around Midnight and got a fine pod
  room with about 2000 moths in it and no bedding ... It it was grand,
  smart and momentus. :-)
 
  JohnY
 


Hey, the moths were the biggest ones I had ever seen. And you haven't
lived until you wake up with your head covered in moths. That was the
beginning of my siddhi's course (first on this side of the Atlantic,
with a lot of the MIU faculty) - quite educational, after I got my
room changed... I also had nice courses there, 3 months in '77, and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] weeks in '94-96. But no  banner, sparkler-line, or baskets 
and I
paid for my courses. Interesting contrast, and IMO, worth pointing out
 . Pretty funny too ... :) 

JohnY






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity

2006-10-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
John:  And you haven't
lived until you wake up with your head covered in moths.

Me:  That made me spit out my food laughing!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub llundrub@ wrote:
 
  Maybe that's you Jyouells, but I must always say that I had very nice 
  residence courses and WPAs.  The baskets were plesant thoughts, and
 gave 
  someone a happy job to do.
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: jyouells2000 jyouells@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:44 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   My favorite line:
  
   Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He
looked
   grand.
  
   Second favorite line:
  
   Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to
   garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and
   small gifts, bagpiper.
  
   Nothing says welcome to America to an Indian man like a bagpiper!
   I'm guessing that Mike Meyers was right: If it's not Scottish,
it's
   crpp!!
  
  
  
   My favorite was:
  
   As the bus pulled up, the twenty-five or so men all waving
sparklers
   formed into two welcoming lines   (Just imagine this for a
 minute)
  
   And I was thinking that there is a small possibility that the
bagpiper
   made a few bucks.
  
   I remember arriving at MIU in 1977 around Midnight and got a
fine pod
   room with about 2000 moths in it and no bedding ... It it was grand,
   smart and momentus. :-)
  
   JohnY
  
 
 
 Hey, the moths were the biggest ones I had ever seen. And you haven't
 lived until you wake up with your head covered in moths. That was the
 beginning of my siddhi's course (first on this side of the Atlantic,
 with a lot of the MIU faculty) - quite educational, after I got my
 room changed... I also had nice courses there, 3 months in '77, and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] weeks in '94-96. But no  banner, sparkler-line, or baskets 
 and I
 paid for my courses. Interesting contrast, and IMO, worth pointing out
  . Pretty funny too ... :) 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
[...]
  Do you think any of the rajas are NOT loyal to MMY and the TMO?
 
 Each of the rajas have given MMY at least $1 million and maybe much
 more, so that's a strong incentive to stay loyal because to not stay
 loyal is in effect admitted you were gullible to give someone who
 didn't deserve it a ton of money.  There's strong psych-ego motivation
 to not let that sitation happened.


Sure. Another aspect of the loyalty test.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Living is a process of continual dying

2006-10-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just read what I wrote. WOW! I would have a hard time too.  
Sometimes I guess my mind moves faster than my fingers.   there is a 
leap from sitting in my pod meditating to being in the classroom 
discussing experiences.   transitions and spelling are bad.   maybe I 
am getting old and arthritic?   Dyslexia I know, but the keys are not 
moving fast enough on my keyboard. I will read before posting.

As I said in an earlier post, I would rather see
more writing from you, even with the occasional
spelling mistake or imperfect transition, than
less because you're taking the time to edit your
posts rather than writing new ones.

Posting here isn't about getting good grades in
English composition, it's about saying stuff
that's interesting, and you've been doing more
of that than most of us here.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry

2006-10-31 Thread vashtirama
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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 Try planting Meyer lemons -- not as sour. I've got one in my yard here
 in So Cal, and apart from the dastardly thorns, they're a good lemon:
 
 Meyer lemons rule!  I buy them at Whole foods whenever I see them. 
 Having them growing in your yard is the coolest thing ever.  If you
 had an avocado or Kit mango tree also I would declare you living in
 heaven.  I made some great Limoncello Liqueur with Meyer lemons.
 

You are SO RIGHT about the avocado and Kit mango trees! We practically
fast on them and add the avocado pits to smoothies.
But about the Meyer lemons, the key limes from our tree beat them out,
esp. if left on the tree to ripen so much that they fall off. They
have a complex taste, about 5 tastes in one.
We tried a Sweet Lemon tree (a Middle Eastern fruit apparently) and
they really did taste like lemonade! Unfortunately they never
developed any juiciness no matter what we did. It might be because
we're in FL not Cal.; we couldn't get juicy blood oranges and
pomegranates either.
We also have a kaffir lime tree which we use for the leaves. It has
never fruited so I don't know what they're like.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Living is a process of continual dying

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


not new just fried from not enough sleep. go to bed at 2 or 3 wake up at 6 everyday

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You must be a posting newbie to not proofread your own stuff.



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I just read what I wrote. WOW! I would have a hard time too. Sometimes I guess my mind moves faster than my fingers. there is a leap from sitting in my pod meditating to being in the classroom discussing experiences. transitions and spelling are bad. maybe I am getting old and arthritic? Dyslexia I know, but the keys are not moving fast enough on my keyboard. I will read before posting. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-10-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
Shemp,

I just found your original post, nice one.

Robert Johnson from Dust My Broom, 1936

I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in Ethiopia
somehwhere.

There are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I sing that lyric in
Alexandria their heads whip around!  I think they believe I am making
it up on the spot to get their attention, but it is based on the idea
that Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and were legendary way
back in the 30's.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Sal,
  
  I think you are talking about Puris right?  I don't mess with deep
  fried stuff much myself.  I am usually only cooking for one or two 
 so
  it is too much trouble.  I make flat breads on a nice thick pizza
  stone, that makes a huge difference for all breads including 
 pizzas. 
  I recently went to NYC to see how they make pizzas in the last few
  remaining coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn is one.  Coal cooks at
  800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood oven.  They get a 
 char on
  the bread and I was chasing that flavor in my own oven.  I figured 
 out
  how to do it in my gas oven.  I put the pizza stone on the bottom 
 of
  the oven and crank it up to broil to pre-heat for almost an hour, 
  Then I cook the thinly rolled pizza for about 5 minutes.  After 
 that I
  put it under the broiler to broil the top for another 3 minutes. I
  swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal ovens!
  
  I spend some time here in DC talking to traditional cooks about how
  they make their foods.  I find that it is the best way to start a
  conversation with people from other cultures.  Lately I am chasing
  traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from Tev, millet flour. 
 
 
 
 Ah, now you're talking about my favourite cuisine.
 
 I had heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20 years and never 
 bothered to try it.
 
 Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years ago and it instantly became 
 my favourite.  Injera is incredible and although the restaurant I go 
 to offers meat dishes it just isn't necessary with all the wonderful 
 vegetarian dishes available in this cuisine.
 
 Making injera: yes, I've tried on two or three occasions to make it 
 myself.  I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line and let me tell you: 
 it was incredibly difficult to make...not the mixing and fermenting 
 part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the actual making of the 
 crepe-like injera.  And I thought making dosa was hard...it's a 
 cinch compared to injera.
 
 Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your experiences?
 
 Also, what ratio did you do the millet to tef...and did you mix the 
 millet in with the tef before the fermenting (I assume you did)?
 
 I've become quite friendly with the owner of the Ethiopian who owns 
 the restaurant I frequent.  He has an almost religious dedication to 
 tef, which he claims is the most complete grain on the planet (hey, 
 all those gold-winning Ethiopian long-distance runners all grew up 
 on it, so there's gotta be something to it!).
 
 All I know is, I can have a stomach ache before eating Ethiopean 
 and, after, it will be gone.
 
 
 
 
  Most
  Ethiopians here don't even bother to make it, they just buy it.  I
  have to talk to the grandmothers to get the good tips!
  
  Food obsessions is the luxury of having no kids.  I'm sure when 
 yours
  get a little older you will be back at the rolling pin!
   
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
  wrote:
  
   Curtis,
   
   Yeah, great place.  I first started going there with a couple of 
   friends when the food at CNL was crummy (pretty often) and that 
 was a 
   wonderful change...and it was also, of course, OTP, making it 
 even more 
   enjoyable. :)  Those were the days.
   
   That's great that you got to know the family and learned some 
 cooking 
   techniques.  At one point I was pretty good at making that puffy 
 type 
   of Indian bread (can't think of the name right now) but quit 
 because I 
   figured kids and hot oil didn't mix too well. Now we get take-
 out but 
   at some point I hope to get back to making it myself, as I love 
 Indian 
   cooking too.
   Sal
   
   On Oct 26, 2006, at 10:47 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
   
Sal,
   
That's great that you remember Parus.  It was run by a South 
 Indian
woman and her two daughters.  Very homey and simple.  She 
 taught me
how to toast the coriander seeds and coconut for Sambar, and 
 how to
let the Idli batter ferment properly to get that great 
 sourness.  I
can equal her Idlis and Sambar from her help, but not her 
 Dosas.  I
think you really need a griddle to make them right.  She was 
 really
sweet to me and spent a lot of time teaching me her cooking 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  spare egg Lawson English wrote:
   cold blu ice man wrote:
sparaig wrote:
 Alex Stanley wrote:
   spare egg wrote:
  cold blu ice man wrote: 
  As no pundit worth his salt would 
  make a claim
  (or allow another to 
  make a claim) that would insinuate 
  a group of pundits 
  chanting Vedic verses could 
  change the course of human events.
  
 What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
 This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  
   
   Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
   i must politley inform you that the photo you 
   are looking at is the--
   Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
   Jamuna/Yamuna river.
   The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
   every 12 years at the 
   junction of the three sacred rivers 
   (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
   and attended by more than 40 million people. 
   Now the dates of the 
   Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
   using astrological 
   calculations based upon the placement of 
   planet Jupiter, also there 
   are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
   on the Jamuna River.
   
...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
   in rotation at 
   Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
   according to the 
   placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
   A modern innovation, there are 
   also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
   every six years at Haridwar 
   and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
   Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
   that the largest number of human beings in 
   history gathered--15 
   million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
   logistically less convenient, 
   managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
   Still, that's five times this 
   year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
   to Mecca for the 
   Haj, the second largest gathering... 
   http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
   
   Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??
   
According to Steve Perino, 
no pundit worth his salt would make the
claim that would 
insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
Vedic verses could change the course of human 
events
   
   i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
   his doctors have screened 
   him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
   But having said that- if indeed that 
   was a world peace gathering 
   in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
   It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated 
   millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??
   
   How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?
  
  
  I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
  merely on your claim that they are 
  not traditional.
 
 Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
 i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
 and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??
 
 Stop making this stuff up!!..i am stop posting to you if you don't 
 get professional help.
 
  I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?
 
 Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) with desired personal 
 results for all aspects of family life with regards to *PERSONAL* 
 spiritual upliftment:
 1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
 2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
 3. EQUALITY 
 4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
 5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
 http://urday.com/panch-2.html
 
  Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya
 
 Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., now please 
 get screened by your professional mental health care provider..for 
 your family's sake.


Heh. So mahayagya is  only for the individual? The term pancha 
mahayajnas (mahayagyas) refers specifically to individual daily rituals.

However, mahayajna also refers to the great rituals done by massive groups for 
many 
different purposes. Had you done a google search on mahayagya rather than 
pancha 
mahayagya you would have noted this immediately since there is only one hit 
for pancha 
mahayagya with quotes: the one you gave us. Talk about a transparent attempt 
to skew 
the information to support your argument!

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Yajna/id/62894

yajna: (Sanskrit) Worship; sacrifice.

 
One of the most central Hindu concepts - sacrifice and surrender through acts 
of worship, 
inner and outer.

 

1) A form of ritual worship especially prevalent in Vedic times, in which 
oblations - ghee, 
grains, spices and exotic woods - are offered into a fire according to 
scriptural injunctions 
while special mantras are chanted.

- The element fire, Agni, is revered as the divine messenger who carries 
offerings and 
prayers to the Gods.

- The ancient Veda Brahmanas and the Shrauta Shastras describe various types of 
yajna 
rites, some so elaborate as to require hundreds of priests, whose powerful 
chanting 
resounds 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Shemp,
  
  I just found your original post, nice one.
  
  Robert Johnson from Dust My Broom, 1936
  
  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
  If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in Ethiopia
  somehwhere.
  
  There are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I sing that lyric 
 in
  Alexandria their heads whip around!  I think they believe I am 
 making
  it up on the spot to get their attention, but it is based on the 
 idea
  that Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and were legendary 
 way
  back in the 30's.
 
 
 
 Ethiopian women are often stately, tall, and beautiful.  Great 
 accent, too.

Wasn't Cleopatra from the Ethiopean region?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Renowned Scientist Defects From Belief in Global Warming

2006-10-31 Thread Jason Spock



   By the time Antarctic land mass becomes ice-free, The Ocean levels will rise by about 80 feet.!! Half of America, India, Africa and China will be sunk under the Sea.!!off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:26:30 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Renowned Scientist Defects From Belief in Global WarmingI presume then that you and your crowd will refuse to benefit from the massive acreage increase and resources that become available when the Antarctic land mass becomes ice-free.OffWorld  shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:36:46 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Renowned Scientist Defects From Belief in Global Warming  Majority Press Release Contact: MARC MORANO (202) 224-5762 (marc_morano@ epw.senate. gov), MATT DEMPSEY (202) 224-9797 (matthew_dempsey@ epw.senate. gov) Renowned Scientist Defects From Belief in Global Warming – Caps Year of Vindication for Skeptics  - - - - - October 17, 2006 Washington DC - One of the most decorated French geophysicists has converted from a believer in manmade catastrophic global warming to a climate skeptic. This latest defector from the global warming camp caps a year in which numerous scientific studies have bolstered the claims of climate skeptics. Scientific studies that debunk the dire predictions of human-caused global warming have continued to accumulate and many believe the new science is shattering the media-promoted scientific "consensus" on climate alarmism. Claude Allegre, a former government official
 and an active member of France's Socialist Party, wrote an editorial on September 21, 2006 in the French newspaper L'Express titled "The Snows of Kilimanjaro" (For English Translation, click here: http://epw.senate. gov/fact. cfm?party=repid= 264835 ) detailing his newfound skepticism about manmade global warming. See: http://www.lexpress .fr/idees/ tribunes/ dossier/allegre/ dossier.asp?ida=451670 Allegre wrote that the "cause of climate change remains unknown" and
 pointed out that Kilimanjaro is not losing snow due to global warming, but to local land use and precipitation changes. Allegre also pointed out that studies show that Antarctic snowfall rate has been stable over the past 30 years and the continent is actually gaining ice. "Following the month of August experienced by the northern half of France, the prophets of doom of global warming will have a lot on their plate in order to make our fellow countrymen swallow their certitudes," Allegre wrote. He also accused proponents of manmade catastrophic global warming of being motivated by money, noting that "the ecology of helpless protesting has become a very lucrative business for some people!" Allegre, a member of both the French and U.S. Academy of Sciences, had previously expressed concern about manmade global warming. "By burning fossil fuels, man enhanced the concentration of carbon dioxide in the
 atmosphere which has raised the global mean temperature by half a degree in the last century," Allegre wrote 20 years ago. In addition, Allegre was one of 1500 scientists who signed a November 18, 1992 letter titled "World Scientists' Warning to Humanity" in which the scientists warned that global warming's "potential risks are very great." See: http://homepages. ihug.co.nz/ ~sai/sciwarn. html Allegre has authored more than 100 scientific articles, written 11 books and received numerous scientific awards including the Goldschmidt Medal from the Geochemical Society of the United States. Allegre's conversion to a climate skeptic comes at a time when global warming alarmists have insisted
 that there is a "consensus" about manmade global warming. Proponents of global warming have ratcheted up the level of rhetoric on climate skeptics recently. An environmental magazine in September called for Nuremberg-style trials for global warming skeptics and CBS News "60 Minutes" correspondent Scott Pelley compared skeptics to "Holocaust deniers." See: http://www.epw. senate.gov/ fact.cfm? party=rep id=264568  http://www.cbsnews. com/blogs/ 2006/03/22/ publiceye/ entry1431768. shtml In addition, former Vice President Al Gore has repeatedly referred to skeptics as "global warming deniers." This increase in rhetorical flourish comes at a time when new climate science research continues to unravel the global warming alarmists' computer model predictions of future climatic doom and vindicate skeptics. 60 Scientists Debunk Global Warming Fears Earlier this year, a group of prominent scientists came forward to question the so-called "consensus" that the Earth faces a "climate emergency." On April 6, 2006, 60 scientists wrote a letter to the Canadian Prime Minister asserting that the science is deteriorating from underneath global warming alarmists. "Observational evidence does not support today's computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future…Significant 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am an idiot

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The only thing 
 both courts DECIDED was to dismiss the lawsuit as being improper under the 
 law that 
was 
 used to justify the lawsuit in the first place:

In a lawyerly mood... The above should read: The only thing EITHER court 
decided since 
my original phrasing implies that there were possibly decisions made by one 
court and not 
the other. 

However,  both courts DID find that there was no evidence of a breach of trust 
by S. 
Shatananda, so my original statement isn't quite correct either way. Note that 
the Supreme 
Court also  explicitly mentions the hypocracy of the plaintiffs in the first 
place:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html
[...]
If the real purpose in bringing the Suit was to vindicate the general right of 
the public to 
havethe rightful claimant appointed to the office,, there was no reason why 
the plaintiffs 
omitted to implead or at least refer in the plaint to the three persons 
nominated by 
Brahmanand in his will to succeed him in the order indicated therein especially 
when it is 
seen that the plaintiffs accepted the custom of the Math to have the successor 
nominated 
by the incumbent for the time, being of the office of Shankaracharya. 
The Trial Court as well as the High Court found that there was no evidence to 
substantiate 
the allegations regarding the breach of trust, 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Renowned Scientist Defects From Belief in Global Warming

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
   By the time Antarctic land mass becomes ice-free, The Ocean 
levels will rise by about 80 feet.!!  Half of America, India, Africa 
and China will be sunk under the Sea.!!


Good!  That should take care of Earth's over-population problem.

Plus, Arizona will have great ocean-front property.



 
 off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:26:30 -
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Renowned Scientist Defects From 
Belief in Global Warming
 

   I presume then that you and your crowd will refuse to benefit 
from the 
 massive acreage increase and resources that become available when 
the Antarctic land mass becomes ice-free.
 
 OffWorld
 
   shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:36:46 -
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Renowned Scientist Defects From Belief in 
Global Warming


   Majority Press Release 
 Contact: MARC MORANO (202) 224-5762 (marc_morano@ epw.senate. 
gov), 
 MATT DEMPSEY (202) 224-9797 (matthew_dempsey@ epw.senate. gov) 
 
 Renowned Scientist Defects From Belief in Global Warming – Caps 
Year 
 of Vindication for Skeptics 
 
  - - - - - -
 ---
 October 17, 2006 
 Washington DC - One of the most decorated French geophysicists has 
 converted from a believer in manmade catastrophic global warming 
to 
 a climate skeptic. This latest defector from the global warming 
camp 
 caps a year in which numerous scientific studies have bolstered 
the 
 claims of climate skeptics. Scientific studies that debunk the 
dire 
 predictions of human-caused global warming have continued to 
 accumulate and many believe the new science is shattering the 
media-
 promoted scientific consensus on climate alarmism. 
 
 Claude Allegre, a former government official and an active member 
of 
 France's Socialist Party, wrote an editorial on September 21, 2006 
 in the French newspaper L'Express titled The Snows of 
Kilimanjaro 
 (For English Translation, click here: http://epw.senate. gov/fact. 
cfm?
 party=repid= 264835 ) detailing his newfound skepticism about 
 manmade global warming. See: 
 http://www.lexpress .fr/idees/ tribunes/ dossier/allegre/ 
dossier.asp?
 ida=451670 Allegre wrote that the cause of climate change remains 
 unknown and pointed out that Kilimanjaro is not losing snow due 
to 
 global warming, but to local land use and precipitation changes. 
 Allegre also pointed out that studies show that Antarctic snowfall 
 rate has been stable over the past 30 years and the continent is 
 actually gaining ice. 
 
 Following the month of August experienced by the northern half of 
 France, the prophets of doom of global warming will have a lot on 
 their plate in order to make our fellow countrymen swallow their 
 certitudes, Allegre wrote. He also accused proponents of manmade 
 catastrophic global warming of being motivated by money, noting 
 that the ecology of helpless protesting has become a very 
lucrative 
 business for some people! 
 
 Allegre, a member of both the French and U.S. Academy of Sciences, 
 had previously expressed concern about manmade global warming. By 
 burning fossil fuels, man enhanced the concentration of carbon 
 dioxide in the atmosphere which has raised the global mean 
 temperature by half a degree in the last century, Allegre wrote 
20 
 years ago. In addition, Allegre was one of 1500 scientists who 
 signed a November 18, 1992 letter titled World Scientists' 
Warning 
 to Humanity in which the scientists warned that global 
 warming's potential risks are very great. See: 
 http://homepages. ihug.co.nz/ ~sai/sciwarn. html 
 
 Allegre has authored more than 100 scientific articles, written 11 
 books and received numerous scientific awards including the 
 Goldschmidt Medal from the Geochemical Society of the United 
States. 
 
 Allegre's conversion to a climate skeptic comes at a time when 
 global warming alarmists have insisted that there is a consensus 
 about manmade global warming. Proponents of global warming have 
 ratcheted up the level of rhetoric on climate skeptics recently. 
An 
 environmental magazine in September called for Nuremberg-style 
 trials for global warming skeptics and CBS News 60 Minutes 
 correspondent Scott Pelley compared skeptics to Holocaust 
deniers. 
 See: http://www.epw. senate.gov/ fact.cfm? party=rep id=264568  
 http://www.cbsnews. com/blogs/ 2006/03/22/ publiceye/ 
entry1431768. shtml 
 In addition, former Vice President Al Gore has repeatedly referred 
 to skeptics as global warming deniers. 
 
 This increase in rhetorical flourish comes at a time when new 
 climate science research continues to unravel the global warming 
 alarmists' computer model predictions of future climatic doom and 
 vindicate skeptics. 
 
 60 Scientists Debunk Global Warming Fears 
 
 Earlier this year, a group of prominent scientists came forward to 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity

2006-10-31 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John:  And you haven't
 lived until you wake up with your head covered in moths.

 Me:  That made me spit out my food laughing!

LOL!

It takes the westerners $1,000,000 for a bagpiper,  but the pandits get
paid (by a westerner). Meanwhile, the buildings keep getting renovated,
and the property keeps getting bought. Interesting contrast indeed. 
Keep those cards and yagya's comming... the unseeables need more happy
jobs.

JohnY







 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub llundrub@ wrote:
  
   Maybe that's you Jyouells, but I must always say that I had very
nice
   residence courses and WPAs.  The baskets were plesant thoughts,
and
  gave
   someone a happy job to do.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: jyouells2000 jyouells@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:44 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
  
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
My favorite line:
   
Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He
 looked
grand.
   
Second favorite line:
   
Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's
domain to
garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats
and
small gifts, bagpiper.
   
Nothing says welcome to America to an Indian man like a
bagpiper!
I'm guessing that Mike Meyers was right: If it's not Scottish,
 it's
crpp!!
   
   
   
My favorite was:
   
As the bus pulled up, the twenty-five or so men all waving
 sparklers
formed into two welcoming lines   (Just imagine this for a
  minute)
   
And I was thinking that there is a small possibility that the
 bagpiper
made a few bucks.
   
I remember arriving at MIU in 1977 around Midnight and got a
 fine pod
room with about 2000 moths in it and no bedding ... It it was
grand,
smart and momentus. :-)
   
JohnY
   
 
 
  Hey, the moths were the biggest ones I had ever seen. And you
haven't
  lived until you wake up with your head covered in moths. That was
the
  beginning of my siddhi's course (first on this side of the Atlantic,
  with a lot of the MIU faculty) - quite educational, after I got my
  room changed... I also had nice courses there, 3 months in '77, and
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] weeks in '94-96. But no  banner, sparkler-line, or 
  baskets and I
  paid for my courses. Interesting contrast, and IMO, worth pointing
out
   . Pretty funny too ... :)
 
  JohnY
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?

2006-10-31 Thread David Fiske
Lurk, Rick and Curtis,
Your comments all so kind. Thank you.

Above the fray. Well let me explain. I have spent a lot of time
bemoaning all that I think is wrong or misguided. One can spiral down
doing that. I have spent much time looking forward to an expected cull
brought on by human foolishness.

However although I still embrace catastrophe as a means for change I
have started to believe in a new paradigm. This is that there are 12
time lines of parallel realities i.e 12 futures for those here on
earth now. This is more than just a wheat and a chaff division.
Compatible energies will have a similar future. These 12 time lines
seem destined to hive off soon. I take great comfort in the thought
that I will soon no longer be sharing my world with incompatible
energies. Therefore I get a warm feeling in my heart for my future and
that leaves little room for bitching. There is SO much that is just
not right for me here on earth now I could spend all day swearing. It
seems better to think happily of the splitting away of those 12 time
lines. Goodbye can be such a cheerful word sometimes don't you think?

By the way some of these ideas came from www.opterra.com. I am on a
forum there, for which one pays monthly. You might be surprised to
know I was almost kicked off for being a subversive agent! All I did
was point out to a charming poster who in alluding to unity
consciousness described herself as a leaf floating on the ocean an
image I said that implied duality and that the wave and ocean analogy
was more philosophically correct.

Courteous as I think I am it was construed as seeking a fight. From
memories of how some folk on FFL behave you wouldn't last 10 seconds
there. They are all generally in agreement and mostly always
supportive of each other.

The site has made me realize that someone can be highly intelligent,
informed, intuitive and yet quite possibly be a little mad. However I
mostly find the eccentric charming and my life has been greatly
enriched by the odd.
.
What I also like about the 12 futures is that it is not a heaven/hell
judgement. You just go where you are most suited and that seems a good
solution. Moreover as energies for change flood our earth as they
currently do, they provide stimulus for the hiving off. They boost
what one focuses on or where one's heart is. As one's life is what one
attends to, so also will be one's future.

Is all this true? I don't know; life is so mysterious. Do I believe
it? Perhaps and it helps me get through my day.

I just don't recognize the world so many people seem to be living in
as my world. If that is to be above the fray then I guess that is
where I am. Any way I have enough of my own fray to deal with.

I haven`t been on this site since Nov when I went on my round the
world trip so I don't know if there have been more Maharishi dark
revelations but I am aware of the earlier stories. Troubling I know.
However, in his core, Maharishi has wanted to help and I think he has
done so. He taught me 1) I could do nothing more fundamental to change
the world than changing my awareness and taught me how to do that.

2) Knowledge is structured in consciousness.

If I look at the facts the world provides this is hard to prove. But
if I look at my personal world it seems valid for apart from some
slips and blips I see a world of love.

This morning I put some more of my large garden to bed. A frog hopped
towards its winter bed under a big pile of mulch, from where it will
emerge in the Spring to eat slugs. I greeted it with affection as a
companero. Chickadees start their own sunflowers in the garden and in
Fall eat the seeds. As they flit amongst the 8 foot tall plants I call
to them `hello sweetheart'. .My well tended soil gives me wonderful
vegetables and fruit. How can I not see love in all that balance and
ripeness.

So it depends on what you want to see.

I was taught that when something of beauty is seen to love it for the
earth as we know it is passing away. It is apparently vanishing in
turmoil. That is one view; but that is the splitting off of the time
lines. The world that some people inhabit is just not mine at all so
why worry about them. They have their future and I have mine. As I
think of my future in a world of love I get a delicious feeling in my
heart.

We have choices. We can yap angrily as life passes by or we can grab
in by the handful and love it. I think Maharishi has done the latter.
He has taken two huge handfuls of life. And once he took my hands for
a while and that has made all the difference.
Love,
David
www.esotericarts.org

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That was a sweet post, David. As much a reflection of the goodness of
 your own heart as of any qualities Maharishi possesses,
 
 Yeah. That is what I felt.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  That was a sweet post, David. As much a reflection of the goodness
 of your
  own heart as of any 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread coldbluiceman
 spare egg Lawson English wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
   spare egg Lawson English wrote:
cold blu ice man wrote:
 sparaig wrote:
  Alex Stanley wrote:
spare egg wrote:
   cold blu ice man wrote: 
   As no pundit worth his salt would 
   make a claim
   (or allow another to 
   make a claim) that would insinuate 
   a group of pundits 
   chanting Vedic verses could 
   change the course of human events.
   
  What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
  This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  

Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
i must politley inform you that the photo you 
are looking at is the--
Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
Jamuna/Yamuna river.
The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
every 12 years at the 
junction of the three sacred rivers 
(Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
and attended by more than 40 million people. 
Now the dates of the 
Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
using astrological 
calculations based upon the placement of 
planet Jupiter, also there 
are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
on the Jamuna River.

 ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
in rotation at 
Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
according to the 
placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
A modern innovation, there are 
also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
every six years at Haridwar 
and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
that the largest number of human beings in 
history gathered--15 
million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
logistically less convenient, 
managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
Still, that's five times this 
year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
to Mecca for the 
Haj, the second largest gathering... 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml

Now AJ Ji..,what were you lead to 
believe that photo is??

 According to Steve Perino, 
 no pundit worth his salt would make the
 claim that would 
 insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
 Vedic verses could change the course of human 
 events

i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
his doctors have screened 
him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
But having said that- if indeed that 
was a world peace gathering 
in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
It sadly did not have the 
desired effect as how many estimated 
millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??

How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?
   
   
   I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
   merely on your claim that they are 
   not traditional.
  
  Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
  i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
  and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??
  
  Stop making this stuff up!!..
  i am going stop posting to you if you don't 
  get professional help.
  
   I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?
  
  Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) 
  with desired personal 
  results for all aspects of family life 
  with regards to *PERSONAL* 
  spiritual upliftment:
  1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
  2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
  3. EQUALITY 
  4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
  5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
  http://urday.com/panch-2.html
  
   Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya
  
  Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., 
  now please 
  get screened by your professional 
  mental health care provider..for 
  your family's sake.
 
 
 Heh. So mahayagya is  only for the individual? The term pancha 
 mahayajnas (mahayagyas) refers specifically 
 to individual daily rituals.

Naamste Sir Lawson Ji..,
i must politley remind you the term- pancha refers to count of 5 
items or things.
For example the PanchaTanMantras-(subtle elements of matter) 
Sabda, Sparsa, Rupa, Rasa and Gandha.

i thought you said Annop Chandola schooled you in Sanskrit?

 However, mahayajna also refers to the great 
 rituals done by massive groups for many 
 different purposes. Had you done a google search 
 on mahayagya rather than pancha 
 mahayagya you would have noted this 
 immediately since there is only one hit for pancha 
 mahayagya with quotes: the one you gave us.
 Talk about a transparent attempt to skew 
 the information to support your argument!

i did not skew anything Sir Lawsonji.

That being said..,lets go through your list to determine:
1). if any of this great info you posted has anything at all to do 
with the tmo pundits..and more importantly John Hagelin's 
*Anticipated Results* of the tmo pundit project in America..and 

2). if any of this info has to do 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am an idiot

2006-10-31 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig wrote:
 Here I am, assuing that ColdBlueIce is able to read,
 and I accepted without question, his 
 claim that the High Court had found that 
 Swami Brahmananda Saraswati wasn't a good 
 enough Sanskrit Scholar to be Shankaracharya.

Naamste Sir LawsonJi..,
i must politley agree with you-, you are an IDIOT.
But that goes without saying (or typing)..
i never said (not one time) Sri Vibhuushiit Jyosimutt Shankaracharya 
Swami Brahmanand Saraswati  was unfit!!

i said Swami Shantinand was unfit as he could not read/understand 
sanskrit..
Get on your meds and, stop making stuff up!!

Here go look for yourself.., Idiot..
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/116827
 ..The court ruled that Swami Shantinand could not in fact 
understand Sanskrit language.
And, this is not a secular issue as you tried to point out. 
As, the sanskrit language was used outside of the religious 
connation you suggested so this issue was decided by the court.
Apparent to the court Swami Shantinand lacked demonstrable skill of
sanskrit language ruled as such. And, the Court upheld the
assertions of the Bharata Dharma Mahamandala...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/116864
 ..in case you are interested this is what i said
(which you will ignore..again. 
But *Blind Faith* allows that sort of
thing)The court ruled that Swami Shantinand could not in fact
understand Sanskrit language.
And, this is not a secular issue as you tried to point out. As,
the sanskrit language was used outside of the religious connation
you suggested so this issue was decided by the court.
Apparent to the court Swami Shantinand lacked demonstrable skill of
sanskrit language ruled as such. And, the Court upheld the
assertions of the Bharata Dharma Mahamandala...

Namaste Sir Lawson,
The validity of the will means exactly this..
there were five names on a piece of paper that was *Published after
Sri BrahmanandJi passed away*..,that is an *Undisputed Legal Fact*
by the Lower Court and Supreme Court and by both parties-,
the Resondent/Ramji Tripathi-Shantinand, and the Plaintiffs.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html

The plaintiffs in the court case suggested to the court the order
had been reversed, as Swami Shantinand was the last choice and the
poorest choice..,as it was *Factually Established* Shantinand/Ramji
Tripathi could not comprehend nor read sanskrit
http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html
and - http://
www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg20687.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/116924
 ..That being said lets, look again at the *Facts* that Sir LawsonJi
continues to ignore(as that is afforded by *Blind Faith*).
It is a Historical Fact that Ramji Tripathi aka Swami Shantinand
fabricated a story and published his *Om Sri Jyotirmath*.

Now my question to you- Sir Lawson Ji is..
*Why was it nessaccary for Swami Shantanand to LIE about his
past*??..
And, what would motivate Swami Shantinand to *LIE*?...

(Although to his credit Swami Shantinand quit his charade and-,
gave up this nonsense of claiming the title of Shankaracharya.)

Herewith are the *lIES* (and the facts you ignore)..
a. *legal Fact* the publication of the will, which surfaced weeks
after Sri BrahmanandJi's passing.
Inspite of Swami Shantanand's claim-,
  Item #1). A fully executed will of
  Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in
  Allhalabad on December 18, 1952.
  (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath')

b. Swami Shantinand was a poor choice because of the *Legal Fact* he
could not comprehend sanskrit nor the Vedas.
Inspite of Swami Shantinand's claim-,
  He was completely qualified the hold the
  seat as he was literate in
  Sanskrit and the Vedas.
  (2nd paragraph page 2 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath')

c. At issue was the fact that Swami Shantanand was installed in Sri
BrahmanandJi's gaddi by Brahmachari Mahesh and few friends that
thought the will could be credible. As, Dana Sawyer Professor of
Religion and Philoshpy at Maine College of Art has pointed out.
Inspite of Swami Shantinand's claim-,
  Item #2). He was installed in Varansi
  in the presence of hundreds of
  scholars from all over the country
 (2nd paragraph page 3 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath')

d. At issue were the suspicious behavior and motivations of
Brahmachari Mahesh at about the time of Sri BrahmanandJi's passing.
..In fact, the earliest doubts about the will left by Brahmananda
Saraswati were linked to suspicion of the motives and actions of
Mahesh Yogi (then called Mahesh Brahmachari)...
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html

e. From the Kropinski interview of Oct. 1986 with the *ONLY LEGIMATE
LEGALLY RECOGNIZED* Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt.
...He said, word came to me that he (Shantinand) had
requested to be allowed on the stage. I allowed him to be present
only because he has given up this nonsense of claiming title to
Shankaracharya.
He said Vishnu Devanand, Mahesh's 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am an idiot

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here I am, assuing that ColdBlueIce is able to read,

Here I am assuming *I* am able to read:

The District Court found 

that Brahmanand executed the will while he wasin sound disposing state of mind, 

that respondent Nc. I being one of the nominees under the will having the prior 
claim 
would have been entitled to succeed as the Head of the Math but for the fact 
that lie was 
not learned in Sanskrit and the Vedas which was a necessary qualification for 
holding the 
headship of the Math.   

It further found 

that the allegations with respect to the breach of trust by respondent No. 1 
had not been 
proved, 

that Krishnabodhashram was validly installed as the Shankaracharya of the Math 
but that 
the suit as it was brought for the vindication of the right of 
Krishnabodhashram to the 
headship of the Math, was not maintainable under s. 92 of the Civil Procedure 
Code. 

The High Court dismissed the appeal on the basis that the suit was incompetent 
under s. 
92 of the Civil Procedure Code. 





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-10-31 Thread Bhairitu
I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much sports in 
this country.  That's because it diverts attention from the rich who are 
destroying the middle class.  Maybe we should have a football game with 
the middle class against the rich to see who wins.  :)

Peter wrote:
 Sir, I'd question my manhood with such a shameful
 remark! 

 --- Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Sports.. snore.

 gullible fool wrote:
 
 So's the Patriots-Vikings game. Tom Brady in
   
 action.
 
 Laurence Maroney in action. Tres cool. 

 --- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
   
 Heroes is on tonight at 9:00 EST. Don't miss
 
 it.
 
 See
 real siddas in action. The guy that flies would
 
 make
 
 any of our TMO frog hoppers jealous. He shoots
 
 off
 
 from the ground at about mach 3. Tres cool!


  

 
 
 
   
   
   
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[FairfieldLife] Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread Bhairitu
Anyone notice how soon the stores got their Halloween stuff out this 
year and how much it there was.  I'd swear that getting stuck in 
Thursday's rush hour traffic some people were taking a 5 day holiday for 
Halloween.   Turns out that Halloween is now second only to Christmas 
for decorating:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/print?id=2617781

Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see rather than be 
bugged answering the door all night long.  I bet some of you do the same.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  spare egg Lawson English wrote:
   coldbluiceman wrote:
spare egg Lawson English wrote:
 cold blu ice man wrote:
  sparaig wrote:
   Alex Stanley wrote:
 spare egg wrote:
cold blu ice man wrote: 
As no pundit worth his salt would 
make a claim
(or allow another to 
make a claim) that would insinuate 
a group of pundits 
chanting Vedic verses could 
change the course of human events.

   What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?
   This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  
 
 Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
 i must politley inform you that the photo you 
 are looking at is the--
 Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
 Jamuna/Yamuna river.
 The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
 every 12 years at the 
 junction of the three sacred rivers 
 (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
 and attended by more than 40 million people. 
 Now the dates of the 
 Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
 using astrological 
 calculations based upon the placement of 
 planet Jupiter, also there 
 are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
 on the Jamuna River.
 
  ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
 in rotation at 
 Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
 according to the 
 placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
 A modern innovation, there are 
 also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
 every six years at Haridwar 
 and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
 Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
 that the largest number of human beings in 
 history gathered--15 
 million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
 logistically less convenient, 
 managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
 Still, that's five times this 
 year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
 to Mecca for the 
 Haj, the second largest gathering... 
 http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
 
 Now AJ Ji..,what were you lead to 
 believe that photo is??
 
  According to Steve Perino, 
  no pundit worth his salt would make the
  claim that would 
  insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
  Vedic verses could change the course of human 
  events
 
 i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
 his doctors have screened 
 him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
 But having said that- if indeed that 
 was a world peace gathering 
 in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
 It sadly did not have the 
 desired effect as how many estimated 
 millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??
 
 How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?


I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
merely on your claim that they are 
not traditional.
   
   Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
   i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
   and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??
   
   Stop making this stuff up!!..
   i am going stop posting to you if you don't 
   get professional help.
   
I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?
   
   Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) 
   with desired personal 
   results for all aspects of family life 
   with regards to *PERSONAL* 
   spiritual upliftment:
   1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
   2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
   3. EQUALITY 
   4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
   5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
   http://urday.com/panch-2.html
   
Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya
   
   Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., 
   now please 
   get screened by your professional 
   mental health care provider..for 
   your family's sake.
  
  
  Heh. So mahayagya is  only for the individual? The term pancha 
  mahayajnas (mahayagyas) refers specifically 
  to individual daily rituals.
 
 Naamste Sir Lawson Ji..,
 i must politley remind you the term- pancha refers to count of 5 
 items or things.
 For example the PanchaTanMantras-(subtle elements of matter) 
 Sabda, Sparsa, Rupa, Rasa and Gandha.
 

Yes, and the term pancha mahayajnas or pancha mahayagyas refers 
specifically to 
rituals performed by individuals.


 i thought you said Annop Chandola schooled you in Sanskrit?

Who told you that?

 
  However, mahayajna also refers to the great 
  rituals done by massive groups for many 
  different purposes. Had you done a google search 
  on mahayagya rather than pancha 
  mahayagya you would have noted this 
  immediately since there is only one hit for pancha 
  mahayagya with quotes: the one you gave us.
  Talk about a transparent attempt to skew 
  the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?

2006-10-31 Thread Marek Reavis
A wonderful post (like the former), sweet words and fine sentiments. 
Thank you.

**

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wrote:

 Lurk, Rick and Curtis,
 Your comments all so kind. Thank you.
 
 Above the fray. Well let me explain. I have spent a lot of time
 bemoaning all that I think is wrong or misguided. One can spiral down
 doing that. I have spent much time looking forward to an expected cull
 brought on by human foolishness.
 
 However although I still embrace catastrophe as a means for change I
 have started to believe in a new paradigm. This is that there are 12
 time lines of parallel realities i.e 12 futures for those here on
 earth now. This is more than just a wheat and a chaff division.
 Compatible energies will have a similar future. These 12 time lines
 seem destined to hive off soon. I take great comfort in the thought
 that I will soon no longer be sharing my world with incompatible
 energies. Therefore I get a warm feeling in my heart for my future and
 that leaves little room for bitching. There is SO much that is just
 not right for me here on earth now I could spend all day swearing. It
 seems better to think happily of the splitting away of those 12 time
 lines. Goodbye can be such a cheerful word sometimes don't you think?
 
 By the way some of these ideas came from www.opterra.com. I am on a
 forum there, for which one pays monthly. You might be surprised to
 know I was almost kicked off for being a subversive agent! All I did
 was point out to a charming poster who in alluding to unity
 consciousness described herself as a leaf floating on the ocean an
 image I said that implied duality and that the wave and ocean analogy
 was more philosophically correct.
 
 Courteous as I think I am it was construed as seeking a fight. From
 memories of how some folk on FFL behave you wouldn't last 10 seconds
 there. They are all generally in agreement and mostly always
 supportive of each other.
 
 The site has made me realize that someone can be highly intelligent,
 informed, intuitive and yet quite possibly be a little mad. However I
 mostly find the eccentric charming and my life has been greatly
 enriched by the odd.
 .
 What I also like about the 12 futures is that it is not a heaven/hell
 judgement. You just go where you are most suited and that seems a good
 solution. Moreover as energies for change flood our earth as they
 currently do, they provide stimulus for the hiving off. They boost
 what one focuses on or where one's heart is. As one's life is what one
 attends to, so also will be one's future.
 
 Is all this true? I don't know; life is so mysterious. Do I believe
 it? Perhaps and it helps me get through my day.
 
 I just don't recognize the world so many people seem to be living in
 as my world. If that is to be above the fray then I guess that is
 where I am. Any way I have enough of my own fray to deal with.
 
 I haven`t been on this site since Nov when I went on my round the
 world trip so I don't know if there have been more Maharishi dark
 revelations but I am aware of the earlier stories. Troubling I know.
 However, in his core, Maharishi has wanted to help and I think he has
 done so. He taught me 1) I could do nothing more fundamental to change
 the world than changing my awareness and taught me how to do that.
 
 2) Knowledge is structured in consciousness.
 
 If I look at the facts the world provides this is hard to prove. But
 if I look at my personal world it seems valid for apart from some
 slips and blips I see a world of love.
 
 This morning I put some more of my large garden to bed. A frog hopped
 towards its winter bed under a big pile of mulch, from where it will
 emerge in the Spring to eat slugs. I greeted it with affection as a
 companero. Chickadees start their own sunflowers in the garden and in
 Fall eat the seeds. As they flit amongst the 8 foot tall plants I call
 to them `hello sweetheart'. .My well tended soil gives me wonderful
 vegetables and fruit. How can I not see love in all that balance and
 ripeness.
 
 So it depends on what you want to see.
 
 I was taught that when something of beauty is seen to love it for the
 earth as we know it is passing away. It is apparently vanishing in
 turmoil. That is one view; but that is the splitting off of the time
 lines. The world that some people inhabit is just not mine at all so
 why worry about them. They have their future and I have mine. As I
 think of my future in a world of love I get a delicious feeling in my
 heart.
 
 We have choices. We can yap angrily as life passes by or we can grab
 in by the handful and love it. I think Maharishi has done the latter.
 He has taken two huge handfuls of life. And once he took my hands for
 a while and that has made all the difference.
 Love,
 David
 www.esotericarts.org
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  That was a sweet post, David. As much a reflection of the goodness of
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] I am an idiot

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


If this was true Maharishi would never have stayed with him or we would never find out.
- Original Message From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:51:05 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] I am an idiot
Here I am, assuing that ColdBlueIce is able to read, and I accepted without question, his claim that the High Court had found that Swami Brahmananda Saraswati wasn't a good enough Sanskrit Scholar to be Shankaracharya. What the High Court didwas to dismiss the lawsuit. No ruling whatsoever was made about anyone's competency or anything else. Any reference to S. Shatananda's compentency was in the context of what claims the plaintiffs made, NOT what the High Court or the Supreme Court decided. The only thing both courts DECIDED was to dismiss the lawsuit as being improper under the law that was used to justify the lawsuit in the first place:http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html[...]The trial Court, after reading the allegations in the plaint and after looking into the entire evidence in the
 case, came to the conclusion that the suit was primarily one for declaration [1] that Krishnabodhashram was duly installed as the Shankaracharya of the Math on June 25, 1953 and[2] that respondent No. 1 had no right to be nominated as the Head of the Math by Brahmanand as he did not possess the requisite qualification and [3] that his possession of the trust property was only in the capacity, of a trustee de son tort, and so he must be removed from the headship of the Math. TheHigh Court saw no reason to differ from that finding[...]We think that the High Court was right in dismissing the suit on the ground that it did not fall within S. 92 of the Civil Procedure Code. We, therefore, dismiss the appeal but, in the circumstances, without any order .is to costs. V.P.S. Appeal dismissed.To subscribe, send a message
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread ffia1120
As a kid, I always liked Halloween more than Christmas. All that candy -
- pure bliss! I bought my Halloween candy this morning (otherwise I eat 
it all before the kiddies arrive) and as I sit here at work, I am 
enjoying a Smarties buzz. Woo hoo! :-) Anyone else here love those 
incredibly sour Smarties candy (kind of like Sweetarts)? I'm sure 
they're loaded with all kinds of bad stuff but they are so good. 

Enjoy your dinner and a movie. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone notice how soon the stores got their Halloween stuff out this 
 year and how much it there was.  I'd swear that getting stuck in 
 Thursday's rush hour traffic some people were taking a 5 day holiday 
for 
 Halloween.   Turns out that Halloween is now second only to Christmas 
 for decorating:
 http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/print?id=2617781
 
 Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see rather than 
be 
 bugged answering the door all night long.  I bet some of you do the 
same.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought wow what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars to be close to him for a month. YES
- Original Message From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Untrustworthy'.Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and  what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become  untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was  in this 1974 quote below.It's what it has become evidently:  untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent.   Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi,  as a teacher or his teaching or business man?'Untrustworthy'? Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up.The  Maharishi Effect?What to do to right things with folks and bring  them back?People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because they were offended, for valid reasons or invalid
 reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place to try to hold onto people. And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace indefinitely, even YOUR assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order to make certain projects happen--doesn't hold.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


I also thought this could be a big rip...
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Untrustworthy'.Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and  what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become  untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was  in this 1974 quote below.It's what it has become evidently:  untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent.   Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi,  as a teacher or his teaching or business man?'Untrustworthy'? Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up.The  Maharishi Effect?What to do to right things with folks and bring  them back?People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because they were offended, for valid reasons or invalid
 reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place to try to hold onto people. And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace indefinitely, even YOUR assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order to make certain projects happen--doesn't hold.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


I once had a business partner who always knew the most negative outcome for any thing we tried to do. He thought his skepticim made him intelligent. One day I asked him do you believe in this idea that thought is creative? He said no because that made him as the term has been used an idiot. I just looked at him. I asked what do you gain in being right with any of these thoughts? Answer: Nothing. SO do you think knowing this answer that does nothing for you makes you intelligent? I explained I would prefer to be absolutely wrong if that was my thought. 

We are trained that sketicism is a sign of some of intelligence. SO if I have a negative thought about something and it comes out to be true that makes me intelligent. WRONG!

Sometimes it is best not to know and not to be right. I pray that this experiment with Vedic Pundits is an absolute success. Then I pray that more countries do the same. If this could happen all over the world WOW! Maybe we will stop the killing in Iraq and other parts of the world. Maybe Israel will realize that killing Palestinians is quite the same as was done to them in the past. Maybe the united states will stop creating wars around the world. Just maybe we can have a state of peace. I hope so.
- Original Message From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:59:58 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  sparaig wrote:   Alex Stanley wrote: spare egg wrote:cold blu ice man wrote: As no "pundit" worth his salt would make a claim(or allow another to make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits chanting "Vedic verses" could change the course of human events.   What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One?   This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg  Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji.., i must politley inform you that the photo you are lokking at is the--Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the Jamuna/Yamuna river.  The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once every 12 years at the  junction of the three sacred rivers (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati)  and attended by more than 40 million people. Now the dates of the  Khumba Mela are set to the specific location using astrological  calculations based upon the placement of planet Jupiter, also there  are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years on the Jamuna River. ..."The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years in rotation at  Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, according to the  placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. A modern innovation, there
 are  also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, every six years at Haridwar  and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the Yamuna River joins the Ganga,  that the largest number of human beings in history gathered--15  million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, logistically less convenient,  managed ten million on April 14, 1998. Still, that's five times this  year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed to Mecca for the  Haj, the second largest gathering..."  http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml  Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is??   According to Steve Perino,   no pundit worth his salt would make the  claim that would   insinutate a group of pundits chanting   Vedic verses could change the course of human
   events  i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until his doctors have screened  him for paranoia  delusional behavior. But having said that- if indeed that was a "world peace" gathering  in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was).. It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated  millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII??  How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945?I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, merely on your claim that they are not traditional.I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?Hint to lurkers: google "mahayagya"To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
 Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see rather
than be bugged answering the door all night long. I bet some of you do
the same.

Since I don't have kids I enjoy being the mayor of munchkin town for
an evening.  When we were kids we used to perform a trick for our
treat.  Did anyone else grow up with that custom?  I used to recite an
ever so ribald poem to the slightly toasted adults in our
neighborhood.  It was a formative experience for me becoming a
performer.  I think that was a nicer custom than the slightly menacing
give us a treat or we play a trick on your house vibe of some kids
today. It made me practice, and having to deliver the poem so many
times really helped me understand how to deliver it for laughs.
 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As a kid, I always liked Halloween more than Christmas. All that candy -
 - pure bliss! I bought my Halloween candy this morning (otherwise I eat 
 it all before the kiddies arrive) and as I sit here at work, I am 
 enjoying a Smarties buzz. Woo hoo! :-) Anyone else here love those 
 incredibly sour Smarties candy (kind of like Sweetarts)? I'm sure 
 they're loaded with all kinds of bad stuff but they are so good. 
 
 Enjoy your dinner and a movie. :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Anyone notice how soon the stores got their Halloween stuff out this 
  year and how much it there was.  I'd swear that getting stuck in 
  Thursday's rush hour traffic some people were taking a 5 day holiday 
 for 
  Halloween.   Turns out that Halloween is now second only to Christmas 
  for decorating:
  http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/print?id=2617781
  
  Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see rather than 
 be 
  bugged answering the door all night long.  I bet some of you do the 
 same.
 






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[FairfieldLife] Pandits got three year visas

2006-10-31 Thread bob_brigante
from another list:

Raja Wynne said the next group of 50 or so is coming Monday evening, 
and 100 more Tuesday evening. 150 more are expected by the end of this 
coming week, for the last of the 350 who first were given visas. 
Frats110 and 111 are the next frats they're moving into. The US govt 
gave all the Pandits 3-year visas instead of just 1-2 year visas as 
originally planned. He also announced plans for 1,000 Maharishi Pandits 
in all to come within 1-2 months. [Each frat can hold 80 Pandits, so 
the five frats now being slated for Pandit occupancy could hold 400. 
Their new campus is built to hold 480, doubled in each bedroom. The 
Capital, which was emptied for them originally, could hold 45. So 
that's close to 1,000.] A sixth frat is being considered to be added 
for the Pandits.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry

2006-10-31 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
 
  Are there any organic food distributors in fairfield?
 
 Heh. The TMO has its own organic food certification program...
 
 
 So yes, yes there are. 
 
 Vedic City ONLY sells organic food...



http://tinyurl.com/y7qkus

http://maharishivediccity.net/agriculture/index.html




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought wow 
what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars 
to be close to him for a month.  YES



Why?

Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him?

If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very Master 
you purport to follow because your Master has already told you that 
the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does not 
include guru worship.



 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian 
TMO are a bunch of thugs
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  'Untrustworthy'.  Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz 
and 
  what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become 
  untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it 
was 
  in this 1974 quote below.  It's what it has become evidently: 
  untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. 
  
  Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of 
Maharishi, 
  as a teacher or his teaching or business man?  'Untrustworthy'?  
  Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up.  
The 
  Maharishi Effect?  What to do to right things with folks and 
bring 
  them back?
 
 People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because 
they were offended, 
 for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place 
to try to hold onto people. 
 And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace 
indefinitely, even YOUR 
 assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order 
to make certain projects 
 happen--doesn't hold.
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread ffia1120
I never had to perform a trick to get my treats -- sounds like a fun 
tradition, though. I did discover one year, when I had a 
costume malfunction and had to run home to have mom fix it, that 
when I went back out on my own, people gave me MORE candy. I guess 
they felt sorry for poor little old me out there Trick or Treating 
all by myself. I hit the candy jackpot that year. :-)

BTW Curtis, what's your sister Cammie up to these days? I worked with 
her many lifetimes ago when we were both Ayurvedic techs in pink 
cotton uniforms. Very sweet and gracious woman. You can respond to my 
yahoo email account if you want. ffia1120 at yahoo dot com. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see rather
 than be bugged answering the door all night long. I bet some of you 
do
 the same.
 
 Since I don't have kids I enjoy being the mayor of munchkin town for
 an evening.  When we were kids we used to perform a trick for our
 treat.  Did anyone else grow up with that custom?  I used to recite 
an
 ever so ribald poem to the slightly toasted adults in our
 neighborhood.  It was a formative experience for me becoming a
 performer.  I think that was a nicer custom than the slightly 
menacing
 give us a treat or we play a trick on your house vibe of some kids
 today. It made me practice, and having to deliver the poem so many
 times really helped me understand how to deliver it for laughs.
  
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  As a kid, I always liked Halloween more than Christmas. All that 
candy -
  - pure bliss! I bought my Halloween candy this morning (otherwise 
I eat 
  it all before the kiddies arrive) and as I sit here at work, I am 
  enjoying a Smarties buzz. Woo hoo! :-) Anyone else here love 
those 
  incredibly sour Smarties candy (kind of like Sweetarts)? I'm sure 
  they're loaded with all kinds of bad stuff but they are so 
good. 
  
  Enjoy your dinner and a movie. :-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   Anyone notice how soon the stores got their Halloween stuff out 
this 
   year and how much it there was.  I'd swear that getting stuck 
in 
   Thursday's rush hour traffic some people were taking a 5 day 
holiday 
  for 
   Halloween.   Turns out that Halloween is now second only to 
Christmas 
   for decorating:
   http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/print?id=2617781
   
   Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see 
rather than 
  be 
   bugged answering the door all night long.  I bet some of you do 
the 
  same.
  
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pandits got three year visas

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 from another list:
 
 Raja Wynne said the next group of 50 or so is coming Monday 
evening, 
 and 100 more Tuesday evening. 150 more are expected by the end of 
this 
 coming week, for the last of the 350 who first were given visas. 
 Frats110 and 111 are the next frats they're moving into. The US 
govt 
 gave all the Pandits 3-year visas instead of just 1-2 year visas 
as 
 originally planned. He also announced plans for 1,000 Maharishi 
Pandits 
 in all to come within 1-2 months. [Each frat can hold 80 
Pandits, so 
 the five frats now being slated for Pandit occupancy could hold 
400. 
 Their new campus is built to hold 480, doubled in each bedroom. 
The 
 Capital, which was emptied for them originally, could hold 45. So 
 that's close to 1,000.] A sixth frat is being considered to be 
added 
 for the Pandits.



If you put 12 pandits in every room and used the lobby space for 30-
40 more, you would only need 2 or 3 frats to house the entire 
1,000...and the conditions would still be better than anything 
they're used to back in the slums of Mumbai or Calcutta.




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[FairfieldLife] Lynch's new book

2006-10-31 Thread bob_brigante
Borders, and Barnes and Noble United States bookstore chains have 
both selected three-time Oscar-nominated director David Lynch's soon-
to-be-released new book, 'Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, 
Consciousness, and Creativity' (Tarcher/Penguin) for a special sales 
promotion in more than 1,600 stores throughout the US. 

The book, which can currently be pre-ordered at Amazon.com, 
officially goes on sale December 28th and will be prominently 
showcased, from January 1 to 29, on sales tables in the front area of 
every single Borders, Barnes  Noble, and Walden book stores in the 
nation, as well as hundreds of independent book stores. 

Called the film director of our era, Lynch writes beautifully—in 
simple, penetrating, profound and captivating words—about 
Transcendental Meditation, creativity, and film in the book. 

Despite his incredibly busy schedule promoting his new film at the 
same time, Lynch has also agreed to do major national publicity, 
including traveling to a few key US cities in January. 

In addition, Lynch's literary agent is working with top publishers 
representing more than 50 countries throughout Europe, Asia, and 
South America for translation and international distribution of the 
book for a release date in March or April of 2007. 

Here are excerpts from Amazon.com editorial reviews on Catching the 
Big Fish: 

In Catching the Big Fish, Lynch writes candidly about the tremendous 
creative benefits he has gained from his thirty-two-year commitment 
to practicing Transcendental Meditation. 

In brief chapters, Lynch describes the experience of 'diving within' 
and 'catching' ideas like fish-and then preparing them for television 
or movie screens, and other mediums in which Lynch works, such as 
photography and painting. 

Catching the Big Fish provides unprecedented insight into Lynch's 
methods, as it also offers a set of practical ideas that speak to 
matters of personal fulfillment, increased creativity, and greater 
harmony with one's surroundings.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see rather than be bugged answering the door all night long. I bet some of you do the same."  Since I don't have kids I enjoy being the mayor of munchkin town for an evening. When we were kids we used to perform a trick for our treat. Did anyone else grow up with that custom? I used to recite an ever so ribald poem to the slightly toasted adults in our neighborhood. It was a formative experience for me becoming a performer. I think that was a nicer custom than the slightly menacing "give us a treat or we play a trick on your house" vibe of some kids today. It made me practice, and having to deliver the poem so many times really helped me understand how to deliver it for laughs. 
Larry David feels much the same way. In Episode 13 of "Curb your enthusiasm", Larry caused an incident by not giving candy to two teenagers who refused to dress up for Halloween (it didn't even get to the point of asking them for a "trick"). The kids responded by throwing toilet paper in his yard and writing graffitti all over his house. The police chided Larry for not giving them candy because of a "social contract" in which if kids knock on your door on Halloween you're supposed to give them candy. Larry felt he was being discriminated against because one of the kids wrote "bald asshole" on his door.
 











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Directed by: Larry Charles First aired: October 7, 2001Synopsis: Larry and Cheryl attend the premiere of a movie written by his handicapped friend Cliff Cobb, during which Larry manages to offend a Jewish neighbor, alienate Cliff (as well as the memory of his salad-inventing grandfather), and send out misguided romantic overtures to Cliff's wife Shelly. Later, the Davids experience the "trick" side of Halloween when Larry refuses to give candy to two uncostumed teenagers. Having failed to secure a bracelet for his wife on her birthday, Larry makes amends with the perfect gift on a romantic morning -- until Jeff arrives to pick him up for a round of golf. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I never had to perform a trick to get my treats -- sounds like a 
fun 
 tradition, though. I did discover one year, when I had a 
 costume malfunction and had to run home to have mom fix it, that 
 when I went back out on my own, people gave me MORE candy. I guess 
 they felt sorry for poor little old me out there Trick or Treating 
 all by myself. I hit the candy jackpot that year. :-)


I had several paper routes as a kid.  The big pay-off was Christmas 
time and I found if I invested in a personalized Christmas card for 
each client which I would include in their papers, I really scored 
well in the Christmas Bonus department if I would go on my 
usual collections that night.

Then when I quit my route, it was during the Spring and I was 
worried because I would be missing out on Christmas tips.  So when I 
went collecting for the last time I told the clients that it was my 
last time seeing them as I was quitting the route because I decided 
to go back to school and no longer be a drop-out but that it would 
be tough  because the family needed the money.  I was about 11 when 
I did this.

Looking back on it, I don't think any of the clients believed me but 
I did get plenty of bonuses...probably because they gave me points 
for having the balls to come up with such a cock-and-bull story. 
Plus we lived in a nice middle-class suburb and they all pretty well 
knew my parents.






 
 BTW Curtis, what's your sister Cammie up to these days? I worked 
with 
 her many lifetimes ago when we were both Ayurvedic techs in pink 
 cotton uniforms. Very sweet and gracious woman. You can respond to 
my 
 yahoo email account if you want. ffia1120 at yahoo dot com. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
   Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see 
rather
  than be bugged answering the door all night long. I bet some of 
you 
 do
  the same.
  
  Since I don't have kids I enjoy being the mayor of munchkin town 
for
  an evening.  When we were kids we used to perform a trick for our
  treat.  Did anyone else grow up with that custom?  I used to 
recite 
 an
  ever so ribald poem to the slightly toasted adults in our
  neighborhood.  It was a formative experience for me becoming a
  performer.  I think that was a nicer custom than the slightly 
 menacing
  give us a treat or we play a trick on your house vibe of some 
kids
  today. It made me practice, and having to deliver the poem so 
many
  times really helped me understand how to deliver it for laughs.
   
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   As a kid, I always liked Halloween more than Christmas. All 
that 
 candy -
   - pure bliss! I bought my Halloween candy this morning 
(otherwise 
 I eat 
   it all before the kiddies arrive) and as I sit here at work, I 
am 
   enjoying a Smarties buzz. Woo hoo! :-) Anyone else here love 
 those 
   incredibly sour Smarties candy (kind of like Sweetarts)? I'm 
sure 
   they're loaded with all kinds of bad stuff but they are so 
 good. 
   
   Enjoy your dinner and a movie. :-)
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ 
wrote:
   
Anyone notice how soon the stores got their Halloween stuff 
out 
 this 
year and how much it there was.  I'd swear that getting 
stuck 
 in 
Thursday's rush hour traffic some people were taking a 5 day 
 holiday 
   for 
Halloween.   Turns out that Halloween is now second only to 
 Christmas 
for decorating:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/print?id=2617781

Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see 
 rather than 
   be 
bugged answering the door all night long.  I bet some of you 
do 
 the 
   same.
   
  
 






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[FairfieldLife] puzzling private dissing

2006-10-31 Thread vashtirama
Weird. Just got a pointlessly nasty private email from nablus108.

I mean, weird because it was in private. Now, what entitles me to such
special treatment when one could do it publicly in this forum, where
it happens all the time?

Come on, nablus108, spread the love.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 31, 2006, at 4:23 PM, ffia1120 wrote:

 BTW Curtis, what's your sister Cammie up to these days? I worked with
 her many lifetimes ago when we were both Ayurvedic techs in pink
 cotton uniforms. Very sweet and gracious woman. You can respond to my
 yahoo email account if you want. ffia1120 at yahoo dot com.

Curtis,
I was wondering the same thing.  I met Cami in Iowa City when I first 
moved here, shopping at New Pioneer Co-op--couldn't believe how much 
alike you two looked!

Sal



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread ffia1120
I had a paper route too -- passed down from my two older brothers. 
There were not many (if any) girl paper carriers back then (66/67), 
so I think I got more Christmas bonuses than my brothers when they 
had the route. Don Kimmet at Kimmet's Appliance Store would give me a 
dime (during the summer months) for an ice cream cone next door at 
the Dairy Queen. He was a friend of my parents. Very sweet 
memories. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I never had to perform a trick to get my treats -- sounds like a 
 fun 
  tradition, though. I did discover one year, when I had a 
  costume malfunction and had to run home to have mom fix it, 
that 
  when I went back out on my own, people gave me MORE candy. I 
guess 
  they felt sorry for poor little old me out there Trick or 
Treating 
  all by myself. I hit the candy jackpot that year. :-)
 
 
 I had several paper routes as a kid.  The big pay-off was Christmas 
 time and I found if I invested in a personalized Christmas card for 
 each client which I would include in their papers, I really scored 
 well in the Christmas Bonus department if I would go on my 
 usual collections that night.
 
 Then when I quit my route, it was during the Spring and I was 
 worried because I would be missing out on Christmas tips.  So when 
I 
 went collecting for the last time I told the clients that it was my 
 last time seeing them as I was quitting the route because I decided 
 to go back to school and no longer be a drop-out but that it would 
 be tough  because the family needed the money.  I was about 11 when 
 I did this.
 
 Looking back on it, I don't think any of the clients believed me 
but 
 I did get plenty of bonuses...probably because they gave me points 
 for having the balls to come up with such a cock-and-bull story. 
 Plus we lived in a nice middle-class suburb and they all pretty 
well 
 knew my parents.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  BTW Curtis, what's your sister Cammie up to these days? I worked 
 with 
  her many lifetimes ago when we were both Ayurvedic techs in pink 
  cotton uniforms. Very sweet and gracious woman. You can respond 
to 
 my 
  yahoo email account if you want. ffia1120 at yahoo dot com. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see 
 rather
   than be bugged answering the door all night long. I bet some of 
 you 
  do
   the same.
   
   Since I don't have kids I enjoy being the mayor of munchkin 
town 
 for
   an evening.  When we were kids we used to perform a trick for 
our
   treat.  Did anyone else grow up with that custom?  I used to 
 recite 
  an
   ever so ribald poem to the slightly toasted adults in our
   neighborhood.  It was a formative experience for me becoming a
   performer.  I think that was a nicer custom than the slightly 
  menacing
   give us a treat or we play a trick on your house vibe of some 
 kids
   today. It made me practice, and having to deliver the poem so 
 many
   times really helped me understand how to deliver it for laughs.

   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 no_reply@ 
wrote:
   
As a kid, I always liked Halloween more than Christmas. All 
 that 
  candy -
- pure bliss! I bought my Halloween candy this morning 
 (otherwise 
  I eat 
it all before the kiddies arrive) and as I sit here at work, 
I 
 am 
enjoying a Smarties buzz. Woo hoo! :-) Anyone else here 
love 
  those 
incredibly sour Smarties candy (kind of like Sweetarts)? I'm 
 sure 
they're loaded with all kinds of bad stuff but they are 
so 
  good. 

Enjoy your dinner and a movie. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ 
 wrote:

 Anyone notice how soon the stores got their Halloween stuff 
 out 
  this 
 year and how much it there was.  I'd swear that getting 
 stuck 
  in 
 Thursday's rush hour traffic some people were taking a 5 
day 
  holiday 
for 
 Halloween.   Turns out that Halloween is now second only to 
  Christmas 
 for decorating:
 http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/print?id=2617781
 
 Halloween means I find a restaurant and a movie to go see 
  rather than 
be 
 bugged answering the door all night long.  I bet some of 
you 
 do 
  the 
same.

   
  
 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] puzzling private dissing

2006-10-31 Thread Peter


--- vashtirama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Weird. Just got a pointlessly nasty private email
 from nablus108.
 
 I mean, weird because it was in private. Now, what
 entitles me to such
 special treatment when one could do it publicly in
 this forum, where
 it happens all the time?
 
 Come on, nablus108, spread the love.

Did he call you a poo-poo head or ninny-nanny?





 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread ffia1120
This made me laugh out loud. Sounds just like someone I used to date. 
He was a very funny, high maintenance guy.

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 Larry felt he was being discriminated
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[FairfieldLife] Re: puzzling private dissing

2006-10-31 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Weird. Just got a pointlessly nasty private email from nablus108.
 
 I mean, weird because it was in private. Now, what entitles me
 to such special treatment when one could do it publicly in this
 forum, where it happens all the time?

Lemme guess what his email was about: Your only recent posts were
about food, which leads me to believe he tore into you about being
off-topic. Am I right?

He's dissed people before in public for posting stuff he thinks is
off-topic, and the only response he ever gets is this reminder from
the FFL description: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Since his
public topic cop routine accomplishes nothing, it could be that he's
trying a new tactic by trying to silence people with ramped up
nastiness in private email.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I might learn some things. I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without emotion
- Original Message From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:16:46 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought wow what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars to be close to him for a month.YESWhy?Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him?If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very Master you purport to follow because your Master has already told you that the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does not include guru worship.   - Original Message  From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs   --- In
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:   'Untrustworthy'.Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and   what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become   untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was   in this 1974 quote below.It's what it has become evidently:   untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi,   as a teacher or his teaching or business man?'Untrustworthy'?  Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up.The   Maharishi Effect?What to do to right things with folks and bring   them back?  People move on because they want to move on.
 Some moved on because they were offended,  for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place to try to hold onto people.  And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace indefinitely, even YOUR  assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order to make certain projects  happen--doesn't hold. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Or go to:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'  Yahoo! Groups LinksTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
I'll let Kami know about your interest in how she is doing and I'll
see if I can get her to give me something to post.  Otherwise I will
email you with an update.  She is doing great and still lives up to
your kind words in my slightly biased opinion! 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Oct 31, 2006, at 4:23 PM, ffia1120 wrote:
 
  BTW Curtis, what's your sister Cammie up to these days? I worked with
  her many lifetimes ago when we were both Ayurvedic techs in pink
  cotton uniforms. Very sweet and gracious woman. You can respond to my
  yahoo email account if you want. ffia1120 at yahoo dot com.
 
 Curtis,
 I was wondering the same thing.  I met Cami in Iowa City when I first 
 moved here, shopping at New Pioneer Co-op--couldn't believe how much 
 alike you two looked!
 
 Sal






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[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?

2006-10-31 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, David Fiske [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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snip

We have choices. We can yap angrily as life passes by or we can grab
 in by the handful and love it. I think Maharishi has done the latter.
 He has taken two huge handfuls of life. And once he took my hands for
 a while and that has made all the difference.

Nice.  Your posts stand apart like the tallest mountain in a range.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween the New Christmas?

2006-10-31 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
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snip

 When we were kids we used to perform a trick for our
 treat.  Did anyone else grow up with that custom?  I used to recite 
an ever so ribald poem to the slightly toasted adults in our
 neighborhood. 

We had Halloween in our neighborhood this past Saturday.  Most of the 
adults were slightly toasted, including me. Some of this years tricks

Why can't ghosts have children?

Because they have hollow weenies.

What did Tigger see when he looked in the toilet?

Poo

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pandits got three year visas

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  from another list:
  
  Raja Wynne said the next group of 50 or so is coming Monday 
 evening, 
  and 100 more Tuesday evening. 150 more are expected by the end of 
 this 
  coming week, for the last of the 350 who first were given visas. 
  Frats110 and 111 are the next frats they're moving into. The US 
 govt 
  gave all the Pandits 3-year visas instead of just 1-2 year visas 
 as 
  originally planned. He also announced plans for 1,000 Maharishi 
 Pandits 
  in all to come within 1-2 months. [Each frat can hold 80 
 Pandits, so 
  the five frats now being slated for Pandit occupancy could hold 
 400. 
  Their new campus is built to hold 480, doubled in each bedroom. 
 The 
  Capital, which was emptied for them originally, could hold 45. So 
  that's close to 1,000.] A sixth frat is being considered to be 
 added 
  for the Pandits.
 
 
 
 If you put 12 pandits in every room and used the lobby space for 30-
 40 more, you would only need 2 or 3 frats to house the entire 
 1,000...and the conditions would still be better than anything 
 they're used to back in the slums of Mumbai or Calcutta.


But not at the facilities being built for them in India.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread Vaj


You do realize he lives in a specially made house all alone and communicates via audio/video only, right?While I do believe it is extreme and reactionary in places, you might want to read the Earl Kaplan letter draft in the files section. Much of it rings true and has been corroborated by others.On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote:Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I might learn some things.  I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without emotion
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You do realize he lives in a specially made house

By specially made, Vaj means the house was built
for MMY according to S-V principles.  But specially
made sounds much more weird and sinister, don't it?

 all alone and  
 communicates via audio/video only, right?

Gosh, just like Howard Hughes!

I don't believe he actually lives there all
alone, though, Vaj, and I'm pretty sure he sees
and communicates with his personal staff face to
face.  You're overdoing it *just* a tad bit here.

 While I do believe it is extreme and reactionary in places,
 you might want to read the Earl Kaplan letter draft in the
 files section. Much of it rings true and has been corroborated
 by others.

Yeah, jeez, Louis still seems to have some
admiration for MMY; can't have that, now,
can we?


 On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote:
 
  Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I  
  might learn some things.  I would like to see the sides that 
people  
  think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way 
without  
  emotion






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or three times actually a few times

- Original Message From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:29:45 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!
Shemp,I just found your original post, nice one.Robert Johnson from "Dust My Broom", 1936I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in Ethiopiasomehwhere.There are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I sing that lyric inAlexandria their heads whip around!I think they believe I am makingit up on the spot to get their attention, but it is based on the ideathat Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and were legendary wayback in the 30's.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:   Sal,I think you are talking about Puris right?I don't mess with
 deep  fried stuff much myself.I am usually only cooking for one or two  so  it is too much trouble.I make flat breads on a nice thick pizza  stone, that makes a huge difference for all breads including  pizzas.   I recently went to NYC to see how they make pizzas in the last few  remaining coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn is one.Coal cooks at  800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood oven.They get a  char on  the bread and I was chasing that flavor in my own oven.I figured  out  how to do it in my gas oven.I put the pizza stone on the bottom  of  the oven and crank it up to broil to pre-heat for almost an hour,   Then I cook the thinly rolled pizza for about 5 minutes.After  that I  put it under the broiler
 to broil the top for another 3 minutes. I  swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal ovens!I spend some time here in DC talking to traditional cooks about how  they make their foods.I find that it is the best way to start a  conversation with people from other cultures.Lately I am chasing  traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from Tev, millet flour. Ah, now you're talking about my favourite cuisine.  I had heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20 years and never  bothered to try it.  Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years ago and it instantly became  my favourite.Injera is incredible and although the restaurant I go  to offers meat dishes it just isn't necessary with all the wonderful  vegetarian dishes available in this cuisine.  Making
 injera: yes, I've tried on two or three occasions to make it  myself.I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line and let me tell you:  it was incredibly difficult to make...not the mixing and fermenting  part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the actual making of the  crepe-like injera.And I thought making dosa was hard...it's a  cinch compared to injera.  Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your experiences?  Also, what ratio did you do the millet to tef...and did you mix the  millet in with the tef before the fermenting (I assume you did)?  I've become quite friendly with the owner of the Ethiopian who owns  the restaurant I frequent.He has an almost religious dedication to  tef, which he claims is the most complete grain on the planet (hey,  all those gold-winning Ethiopian long-distance runners all grew up 
 on it, so there's gotta be something to it!).  All I know is, I can have a stomach ache before eating Ethiopean  and, after, it will be gone.Most  Ethiopians here don't even bother to make it, they just buy it.I  have to talk to the grandmothers to get the good tips!Food obsessions is the luxury of having no kids.I'm sure when  yours  get a little older you will be back at the rolling pin!   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@  wrote: Curtis,  Yeah, great place.I first started going there with a couple offriends when the food at CNL was crummy (pretty often) and that  was a
wonderful change...and it was also, of course, OTP, making it  even moreenjoyable. :)Those were the days.  That's great that you got to know the family and learned some  cookingtechniques.At one point I was pretty good at making that puffy  typeof Indian bread (can't think of the name right now) but quit  because Ifigured kids and hot oil didn't mix too well. Now we get take- out butat some point I hope to get back to making it myself, as I love  Indiancooking too.   Sal  On Oct 26, 2006, at 10:47 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:   Sal,   That's great that you remember Parus.It was run by a
 South  Indianwoman and her two daughters.Very homey and simple.She  taught mehow to toast the coriander seeds and coconut for Sambar, and  how tolet the Idli batter ferment properly to get that great  sourness.Ican equal her Idlis and Sambar from her help, but not her  Dosas.Ithink you really need a griddle to make 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


What happened with Earl Kaplan? I know him and David. 
I would like to read the letter. I would do somethings just to see for myself. Just for the experience. Also I had good experiences with M so I would do that if I had the time just to see. I once drove from LA to Oakland with another favored son. I loved every minute of the trip. but that was in 1995.
- Original Message From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:08:03 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You do realize he lives in a specially made houseBy "specially made," Vaj means the house was builtfor MMY according to S-V principles.But "speciallymade" sounds much more weird and sinister, don't it?all alone and communicates via audio/video only, right?Gosh, just like Howard Hughes!I don't believe he actually lives there "allalone," though, Vaj, and I'm pretty sure he seesand communicates with his personal staff face toface.You're overdoing it *just* a tad bit here. While I do believe it is extreme and reactionary in places, you might want to read the Earl Kaplan letter draft in the files section. Much of it rings true and has been corroborated by others.Yeah, jeez, Louis still seems to have someadmiration for MMY; can't have that,
 now,can we? On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote:   Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I  might learn some things.I would like to see the sides that people  think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without  emotionTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's new book

2006-10-31 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Borders, and Barnes and Noble United States bookstore chains have 
 both selected three-time Oscar-nominated director David Lynch's 
soon-
 to-be-released new book, 'Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, 
 Consciousness, and Creativity' (Tarcher/Penguin) for a special 
sales 
 promotion in more than 1,600 stores throughout the US. 
 
 The book, which can currently be pre-ordered at Amazon.com, 
 officially goes on sale December 28th and will be prominently 
 showcased, from January 1 to 29, on sales tables in the front area 
of 
 every single Borders, Barnes  Noble, and Walden book stores in 
the 
 nation, as well as hundreds of independent book stores. 
 
 Called the film director of our era, Lynch writes beautifully—in 
 simple, penetrating, profound and captivating words—about 
 Transcendental Meditation, creativity, and film in the book. 
 
 Despite his incredibly busy schedule promoting his new film at the 
 same time, Lynch has also agreed to do major national publicity, 
 including traveling to a few key US cities in January. 
 
 In addition, Lynch's literary agent is working with top publishers 
 representing more than 50 countries throughout Europe, Asia, and 
 South America for translation and international distribution of 
the 
 book for a release date in March or April of 2007. 
 
 Here are excerpts from Amazon.com editorial reviews on Catching 
the 
 Big Fish: 
 
 In Catching the Big Fish, Lynch writes candidly about the 
tremendous 
 creative benefits he has gained from his thirty-two-year 
commitment 
 to practicing Transcendental Meditation. 
 
 In brief chapters, Lynch describes the experience of 'diving 
within' 
 and 'catching' ideas like fish-and then preparing them for 
television 
 or movie screens, and other mediums in which Lynch works, such as 
 photography and painting. 
 
 Catching the Big Fish provides unprecedented insight into Lynch's 
 methods, as it also offers a set of practical ideas that speak to 
 matters of personal fulfillment, increased creativity, and greater 
 harmony with one's surroundings.

Sounds great, but I wonder why it isn't going on sale *before* 
Christmas?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?

2006-10-31 Thread David Fiske
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
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 Nice.  Your posts stand apart like the tallest mountain in a range.
 
 lurk

You are too kind. By the way I made an error in the link I gave re 12
timelines. it should have been:
www.operationterra.com
Sorry.
love,
David




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[FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-10-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or three times actually
a few times

Nice one Louis!  The Ethiopian women I have met here are super well
dressed and perfectly made up, (maintenance expectations seem high),
and very insulated by their community ties. Look but don't touch rules
seemed to be in full force and effect.  But those eyes...




 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:29:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!
 
 
 Shemp,
 
 I just found your original post, nice one.
 
 Robert Johnson from Dust My Broom, 1936
 
 I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
 I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
 If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in Ethiopia
 somehwhere.
 
 There are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I sing that lyric in
 Alexandria their heads whip around!  I think they believe I am making
 it up on the spot to get their attention, but it is based on the idea
 that Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and were legendary way
 back in the 30's.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   Sal,
   
   I think you are talking about Puris right?  I don't mess with deep
   fried stuff much myself.  I am usually only cooking for one or two 
  so
   it is too much trouble.  I make flat breads on a nice thick pizza
   stone, that makes a huge difference for all breads including 
  pizzas. 
   I recently went to NYC to see how they make pizzas in the last few
   remaining coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn is one.  Coal cooks at
   800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood oven.  They get a 
  char on
   the bread and I was chasing that flavor in my own oven.  I figured 
  out
   how to do it in my gas oven.  I put the pizza stone on the bottom 
  of
   the oven and crank it up to broil to pre-heat for almost an hour, 
   Then I cook the thinly rolled pizza for about 5 minutes.  After 
  that I
   put it under the broiler to broil the top for another 3 minutes. I
   swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal ovens!
   
   I spend some time here in DC talking to traditional cooks about how
   they make their foods.  I find that it is the best way to start a
   conversation with people from other cultures.  Lately I am chasing
   traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from Tev, millet flour. 
  
  
  
  Ah, now you're talking about my favourite cuisine.
  
  I had heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20 years and never 
  bothered to try it.
  
  Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years ago and it instantly became 
  my favourite.  Injera is incredible and although the restaurant I go 
  to offers meat dishes it just isn't necessary with all the wonderful 
  vegetarian dishes available in this cuisine.
  
  Making injera: yes, I've tried on two or three occasions to make it 
  myself.  I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line and let me tell you: 
  it was incredibly difficult to make...not the mixing and fermenting 
  part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the actual making of the 
  crepe-like injera.  And I thought making dosa was hard...it's a 
  cinch compared to injera.
  
  Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your experiences?
  
  Also, what ratio did you do the millet to tef...and did you mix the 
  millet in with the tef before the fermenting (I assume you did)?
  
  I've become quite friendly with the owner of the Ethiopian who owns 
  the restaurant I frequent.  He has an almost religious dedication to 
  tef, which he claims is the most complete grain on the planet (hey, 
  all those gold-winning Ethiopian long-distance runners all grew up 
  on it, so there's gotta be something to it!).
  
  All I know is, I can have a stomach ache before eating Ethiopean 
  and, after, it will be gone.
  
  
  
  
   Most
   Ethiopians here don't even bother to make it, they just buy it.  I
   have to talk to the grandmothers to get the good tips!
   
   Food obsessions is the luxury of having no kids.  I'm sure when 
  yours
   get a little older you will be back at the rolling pin!

   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
   wrote:
   
Curtis,

Yeah, great place.  I first started going there with a couple of 
friends when the food at CNL was crummy (pretty often) and that 
  was a 
wonderful change...and it was also, of course, OTP, making it 
  even more 
enjoyable. :)  Those were the days.

That's great that you got to know the family and learned some 
  cooking 
techniques.  At one point I was pretty good at making that puffy 
  type 
of Indian bread (can't think of the name right now) but quit 
  because I 
figured kids 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


Ethiopia has treated me well..more or less. Are you in fairfield or LA

In LA they have a whole block of fairfax ave that is ethiopian restaruants. Great food. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?

2006-10-31 Thread Louis McKenzie


Yeah!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's new book

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  Borders, and Barnes and Noble United States bookstore chains have 
  both selected three-time Oscar-nominated director David Lynch's 
 soon-
  to-be-released new book, 'Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, 
  Consciousness, and Creativity' (Tarcher/Penguin) for a special 
 sales 
  promotion in more than 1,600 stores throughout the US. 
  
  The book, which can currently be pre-ordered at Amazon.com, 
  officially goes on sale December 28th and will be prominently 
  showcased, from January 1 to 29, on sales tables in the front area 
 of 
  every single Borders, Barnes  Noble, and Walden book stores in 
 the 
  nation, as well as hundreds of independent book stores. 
  
  Called the film director of our era, Lynch writes beautifully—in 
  simple, penetrating, profound and captivating words—about 
  Transcendental Meditation, creativity, and film in the book. 
  
  Despite his incredibly busy schedule promoting his new film at the 
  same time, Lynch has also agreed to do major national publicity, 
  including traveling to a few key US cities in January. 
  
  In addition, Lynch's literary agent is working with top publishers 
  representing more than 50 countries throughout Europe, Asia, and 
  South America for translation and international distribution of 
 the 
  book for a release date in March or April of 2007. 
  
  Here are excerpts from Amazon.com editorial reviews on Catching 
 the 
  Big Fish: 
  
  In Catching the Big Fish, Lynch writes candidly about the 
 tremendous 
  creative benefits he has gained from his thirty-two-year 
 commitment 
  to practicing Transcendental Meditation. 
  
  In brief chapters, Lynch describes the experience of 'diving 
 within' 
  and 'catching' ideas like fish-and then preparing them for 
 television 
  or movie screens, and other mediums in which Lynch works, such as 
  photography and painting. 
  
  Catching the Big Fish provides unprecedented insight into Lynch's 
  methods, as it also offers a set of practical ideas that speak to 
  matters of personal fulfillment, increased creativity, and greater 
  harmony with one's surroundings.
 
 Sounds great, but I wonder why it isn't going on sale *before* 
 Christmas?


Maybe because he's been working on his movie until just a few weeks ago?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's new book

2006-10-31 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Borders, and Barnes and Noble United States bookstore chains have 
 both selected three-time Oscar-nominated director David Lynch's 
soon-
 to-be-released new book, 'Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, 
 Consciousness, and Creativity' (Tarcher/Penguin) for a special 
sales 
 promotion in more than 1,600 stores throughout the US. 
 
 The book, which can currently be pre-ordered at Amazon.com, 
 officially goes on sale December 28th and will be prominently 
 showcased, from January 1 to 29, on sales tables in the front area 
of 
 every single Borders, Barnes  Noble, and Walden book stores in 
the 
 nation, as well as hundreds of independent book stores. 
 
 Called the film director of our era, Lynch writes beautifully—in 
 simple, penetrating, profound and captivating words—about 
 Transcendental Meditation, creativity, and film in the book. 
 
 Despite his incredibly busy schedule promoting his new film at the 
 same time, Lynch has also agreed to do major national publicity, 
 including traveling to a few key US cities in January. 
 
 In addition, Lynch's literary agent is working with top publishers 
 representing more than 50 countries throughout Europe, Asia, and 
 South America for translation and international distribution of 
the 
 book for a release date in March or April of 2007. 
 
 Here are excerpts from Amazon.com editorial reviews on Catching 
the 
 Big Fish: 
 
 In Catching the Big Fish, Lynch writes candidly about the 
tremendous 
 creative benefits he has gained from his thirty-two-year 
commitment 
 to practicing Transcendental Meditation. 
 
 In brief chapters, Lynch describes the experience of 'diving 
within' 
 and 'catching' ideas like fish-and then preparing them for 
television 
 or movie screens, and other mediums in which Lynch works, such as 
 photography and painting. 
 
 Catching the Big Fish provides unprecedented insight into Lynch's 
 methods, as it also offers a set of practical ideas that speak to 
 matters of personal fulfillment, increased creativity, and greater 
 harmony with one's surroundings.


Nice catch Bob.   
:-)

OffWorld




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[FairfieldLife] The Key to Low Prison Recidivism - report.

2006-10-31 Thread off_world_beings
http://youtube.com/watch?v=llXPtNGEKn4


yuk yuk
:-)

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[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?

2006-10-31 Thread feste37
I'm wondering whether your last phrase here was a conscious echo of the 
final line of Robert Frost's poem, The Road Not Taken:

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, David Fiske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 We have choices. We can yap angrily as life passes by or we can grab
 in by the handful and love it. I think Maharishi has done the latter.
 He has taken two huge handfuls of life. And once he took my hands for
 a while and that has made all the difference.
 Love,
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[FairfieldLife] Re: puzzling private dissing

2006-10-31 Thread vashtirama
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama vashtirama@ wrote:
 
  Weird. Just got a pointlessly nasty private email from nablus108.
  
  I mean, weird because it was in private. Now, what entitles me
  to such special treatment when one could do it publicly in this
  forum, where it happens all the time?
 
 Lemme guess what his email was about: Your only recent posts were
 about food, which leads me to believe he tore into you about being
 off-topic. Am I right?
 
 He's dissed people before in public for posting stuff he thinks is
 off-topic, and the only response he ever gets is this reminder from
 the FFL description: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Since his
 public topic cop routine accomplishes nothing, it could be that he's
 trying a new tactic by trying to silence people with ramped up
 nastiness in private email.


Hi Alex, maybe you're right. He didn't get specific enough.
I'm on other lists where the members are expected to alert the
listowners if they get this kind of thing privately. I didn't do that
here to alert Rick, but that's where I got the idea to make it public.
The really nice private responses I got are worth it so I have to say
I recommend doing it.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's new book

2006-10-31 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  Borders, and Barnes and Noble United States bookstore chains have 
  both selected three-time Oscar-nominated director David Lynch's 
 soon-
  to-be-released new book, 'Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, 
  Consciousness, and Creativity' (Tarcher/Penguin) for a special 
 sales 
  promotion in more than 1,600 stores throughout the US. 
  
  The book, which can currently be pre-ordered at Amazon.com, 
  officially goes on sale December 28th and will be prominently 
  showcased, from January 1 to 29, on sales tables in the front 
area 
 of 
  every single Borders, Barnes  Noble, and Walden book stores in 
 the 
  nation, as well as hundreds of independent book stores. 

*

 Sounds great, but I wonder why it isn't going on sale *before* 
 Christmas?


***

It may be that booksellers would regard the book as less likely to 
sell as a Christmas gift, but it's actually better for Lynch if it 
goes on sale after Xmas, because the bookstores will be flooded with 
people who got giftcards as gifts, instead of going through all the 
hassle of mailing books which the recipient may not want anyway.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I 
might learn some things.




Let me see if I understand this right.  You want to be around 
Maharishi because you respect him as a business man because he 
charged $1 million per person for the course?

And you want to learn from that?

What, how to charge exhorbitant amounts of money for courses that 30 
years ago went for, literally 1/1,000 of that cost?






  I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I 
would like to see if he can be that way without emotion
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:16:46 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian 
TMO are a bunch of thugs
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
 wrote:
 
  When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought 
wow 
 what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars 
 to be close to him for a month.  YES
 
 
 
 Why?
 
 Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him?
 
 If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very 
Master 
 you purport to follow because your Master has already told you 
that 
 the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does not 
 include guru worship.
 
 
 
  
  
  - Original Message 
  From: sparaig sparaig@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the 
Indian 
 TMO are a bunch of thugs
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   'Untrustworthy'.  Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' 
biz 
 and 
   what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become 
   untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it 
 was 
   in this 1974 quote below.  It's what it has become evidently: 
   untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. 
   
   Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of 
 Maharishi, 
   as a teacher or his teaching or business 
man?  'Untrustworthy'?  
   Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show 
up.  
 The 
   Maharishi Effect?  What to do to right things with folks and 
 bring 
   them back?
  
  People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on 
because 
 they were offended, 
  for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's 
place 
 to try to hold onto people. 
  And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace 
 indefinitely, even YOUR 
  assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in 
order 
 to make certain projects 
  happen--doesn't hold.
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or three times 
actually a few times




Judy: is this an example of the flow of consciousness you admire so 
much?




 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:29:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!
 
 
 Shemp,
 
 I just found your original post, nice one.
 
 Robert Johnson from Dust My Broom, 1936
 
 I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
 I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
 If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in Ethiopia
 somehwhere.
 
 There are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I sing that lyric 
in
 Alexandria their heads whip around!  I think they believe I am 
making
 it up on the spot to get their attention, but it is based on the 
idea
 that Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and were legendary 
way
 back in the 30's.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   Sal,
   
   I think you are talking about Puris right?  I don't mess with 
deep
   fried stuff much myself.  I am usually only cooking for one or 
two 
  so
   it is too much trouble.  I make flat breads on a nice thick 
pizza
   stone, that makes a huge difference for all breads including 
  pizzas. 
   I recently went to NYC to see how they make pizzas in the last 
few
   remaining coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn is one.  Coal 
cooks at
   800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood oven.  They get a 
  char on
   the bread and I was chasing that flavor in my own oven.  I 
figured 
  out
   how to do it in my gas oven.  I put the pizza stone on the 
bottom 
  of
   the oven and crank it up to broil to pre-heat for almost an 
hour, 
   Then I cook the thinly rolled pizza for about 5 minutes.  
After 
  that I
   put it under the broiler to broil the top for another 3 
minutes. I
   swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal ovens!
   
   I spend some time here in DC talking to traditional cooks 
about how
   they make their foods.  I find that it is the best way to 
start a
   conversation with people from other cultures.  Lately I am 
chasing
   traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from Tev, millet 
flour. 
  
  
  
  Ah, now you're talking about my favourite cuisine.
  
  I had heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20 years and never 
  bothered to try it.
  
  Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years ago and it instantly 
became 
  my favourite.  Injera is incredible and although the restaurant 
I go 
  to offers meat dishes it just isn't necessary with all the 
wonderful 
  vegetarian dishes available in this cuisine.
  
  Making injera: yes, I've tried on two or three occasions to make 
it 
  myself.  I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line and let me tell 
you: 
  it was incredibly difficult to make...not the mixing and 
fermenting 
  part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the actual making of the 
  crepe-like injera.  And I thought making dosa was hard...it's a 
  cinch compared to injera.
  
  Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your experiences?
  
  Also, what ratio did you do the millet to tef...and did you mix 
the 
  millet in with the tef before the fermenting (I assume you did)?
  
  I've become quite friendly with the owner of the Ethiopian who 
owns 
  the restaurant I frequent.  He has an almost religious 
dedication to 
  tef, which he claims is the most complete grain on the planet 
(hey, 
  all those gold-winning Ethiopian long-distance runners all grew 
up 
  on it, so there's gotta be something to it!).
  
  All I know is, I can have a stomach ache before eating Ethiopean 
  and, after, it will be gone.
  
  
  
  
   Most
   Ethiopians here don't even bother to make it, they just buy 
it.  I
   have to talk to the grandmothers to get the good tips!
   
   Food obsessions is the luxury of having no kids.  I'm sure 
when 
  yours
   get a little older you will be back at the rolling pin!

   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
salsunshine@
   wrote:
   
Curtis,

Yeah, great place.  I first started going there with a 
couple of 
friends when the food at CNL was crummy (pretty often) and 
that 
  was a 
wonderful change...and it was also, of course, OTP, making 
it 
  even more 
enjoyable. :)  Those were the days.

That's great that you got to know the family and learned 
some 
  cooking 
techniques.  At one point I was pretty good at making that 
puffy 
  type 
of Indian bread (can't think of the name right now) but quit 
  because I 
figured kids and hot oil didn't mix too well. Now we get 
take-
  out but 
at some point I hope to get back to making it myself, as I 
love 
  Indian 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You do realize he lives in a specially made house all alone and  
 communicates via audio/video only, right?
 
 While I do believe it is extreme and reactionary in places, you 
might  
 want to read the Earl Kaplan letter draft in the files section. 
Much  
 of it rings true and has been corroborated by others.


...maybe you should start him on the Sexie Sadie tapes and then move 
him on to the Earl letter...



 
 On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote:
 
  Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think 
I  
  might learn some things.  I would like to see the sides that 
people  
  think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way 
without  
  emotion






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's new book

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  Borders, and Barnes and Noble United States bookstore chains 
have 
  both selected three-time Oscar-nominated director David Lynch's 
 soon-
  to-be-released new book, 'Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, 
  Consciousness, and Creativity' (Tarcher/Penguin) for a special 
 sales 
  promotion in more than 1,600 stores throughout the US. 
  
  The book, which can currently be pre-ordered at Amazon.com, 
  officially goes on sale December 28th and will be prominently 
  showcased, from January 1 to 29, on sales tables in the front 
area 
 of 
  every single Borders, Barnes  Noble, and Walden book stores in 
 the 
  nation, as well as hundreds of independent book stores. 
  
  Called the film director of our era, Lynch writes beautifully—in 
  simple, penetrating, profound and captivating words—about 
  Transcendental Meditation, creativity, and film in the book. 
  
  Despite his incredibly busy schedule promoting his new film at 
the 
  same time, Lynch has also agreed to do major national publicity, 
  including traveling to a few key US cities in January. 
  
  In addition, Lynch's literary agent is working with top 
publishers 
  representing more than 50 countries throughout Europe, Asia, and 
  South America for translation and international distribution of 
 the 
  book for a release date in March or April of 2007. 
  
  Here are excerpts from Amazon.com editorial reviews on Catching 
 the 
  Big Fish: 
  
  In Catching the Big Fish, Lynch writes candidly about the 
 tremendous 
  creative benefits he has gained from his thirty-two-year 
 commitment 
  to practicing Transcendental Meditation. 
  
  In brief chapters, Lynch describes the experience of 'diving 
 within' 
  and 'catching' ideas like fish-and then preparing them for 
 television 
  or movie screens, and other mediums in which Lynch works, such 
as 
  photography and painting. 
  
  Catching the Big Fish provides unprecedented insight into 
Lynch's 
  methods, as it also offers a set of practical ideas that speak 
to 
  matters of personal fulfillment, increased creativity, and 
greater 
  harmony with one's surroundings.
 
 Sounds great, but I wonder why it isn't going on sale *before* 
 Christmas?


Yeah, it would make a great stocking stuffer.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Key to Low Prison Recidivism - report.

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 http://youtube.com/watch?v=llXPtNGEKn4
 
 
 yuk yuk
 :-)
 
 OffWorld


The Texas sheriff stole the idea from Maricopa County's Sheriff Joe 
Arpaio who has been doing that for years.




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[FairfieldLife] There's just no pleasing these people...

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
TM isn't the only thing parents at this school complain about...

http://www.marinij.com/marin/ci_4578496




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's new book

2006-10-31 Thread sparaig
BTW, Inland Empire has gotten only a few reviews thus far, but is considered a 
marginal 
fresh tomato: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/inland_empire/






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Key to Low Prison Recidivism - report.

2006-10-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
no_reply@ 
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   http://youtube.com/watch?v=llXPtNGEKn4
   
   
   yuk yuk
   :-)
   
   OffWorld
  
  
  The Texas sheriff stole the idea from Maricopa County's Sheriff 
Joe 
  Arpaio who has been doing that for years.
 
 
 Does it work with AZ inmates?


Depends who you ask.  Arpaio says it does and he's incredibly 
popular here.  Being in Tucson, I assume you've heard of him.




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