[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fflmod fflmod@... wrote:

 
 What I want to know is how many sidhas were at the state fair or Trader
 Joe's instead of in Fairfield spreading their bliss. :)

* * Ha! My first time experiencing both of these paradises today, and both were 
a very great joy indeed! I had never seen such a great fair with so many 
incredibly warm, loving, beautiful people (and of course cows, and goats, and 
sheep, and vegetables, etc.), and Trader Joe's -- wow. What an amazing place 
that is! So many interesting new foods. I hear they are thinking of opening one 
closer to home, in Coralville. In the meantime, Des Moines is definitely on my 
to-do list on a more regular basis :-)







[FairfieldLife] NOK vs. AAPL?

2011-08-21 Thread cardemaister

From the POV of an investor, Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) might
be in a position rather similar to that of Nokia (NYSE: NOK)
little over 10 years ago:

NOK

http://tinyurl.com/3aqrwl6

AAPL

http://tinyurl.com/3rgk8e5



[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-21 Thread John
I stand corrected.  The figure should have been 16,108 wives.  He must have one 
powerful guy to handle all those women.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 Slight correction. That's 16,108 wives - eight
 principle wives and 16,100 wives rescued from
 the harem of Narakasura, a powerful asura.
 
 To manage them all is simple. Just manifest
 separate bodies for each of them, attend to
 them continually, grant their many wishes
 and overpower them with amorous affection.
 
 To accomplish this kind of simultaneity,
 you probably should consider engaging in the
 mantra that Shiva used to enter the rasa dance:
 
 om namo bhâgavate râsamandeleshâya svâhâ
 
 That is the manual.
 Enjoy your transformation bodies (nimanakaya-s).
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
 
  Wow, 14,108. Did he write any
  manuals specifically about managing
  women?
 
 ___
  From: John jr_esq@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:21:51 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with
 large breasts
 
  Maybejust remember the blue guy is fond of dancing with many
 beautiful women at midnight on a full moon.  He also is known to have
 married 14,108 women.  So, you can learn how to manage women from him.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-21 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
 
  You can thank Curtis for this post.

 Yeah, blame the blues guy!  Nice.

Occasionally, blame the guy who write the headlines:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/19/succulent-racks-headline-pictur\
e_n_931539.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/19/succulent-racks-headline-pictu\
re_n_931539.html




[FairfieldLife] Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread cardemaister

According to someone, from vaayu- and skanda-puraaNa:

alpAkSaram asandigdhaM sAra-vat vizvato-mukham
astobham anavadyaM ca sUtraM sUtra-vido viduH

The translation on that site seemed rather scarce.

Perhaps everyone might try to come up with 
their own translation.

Vocabulary

alpaakSaram -- [my guess] smallsyllable(d): most probably a 
bahuvriihi meaning 'having only a few syllables'

asaMdigdha  mfn. not indistinct MBh. xii ; undoubted , unsuspected , 
certain Jain. (Pra1kr2it {-diddha}) ; Pat. ; ***(%{am}) ind. without any doubt 
, certainly Pan5cat. Ma1rkP***

sAravat mfn. hard , solid , firm , strong , steadfast MBh. R. c. ; substantial 
, nourishing (as food) Car. ; valuable , precious MBh. Ka1m. ; having pith or 
sap , containing resin Sus3r. ; 

anavadyamf(%{A4})n. irreproachable , faultless ; unobjectionable ; 
(%{A}) f. N. of an Apsaras.

vizvatomukha [z = sh -- card]   (%{-zva4to-}) mfn. facing all sides , one whose 
face is turned everywhere RV. AV. MBh. c. ; (%{am}) ind , in every direction 
BhP. ; m. N. of the sun MBh.

astobham -- prolly opposite of 'stobham'

stobha  m. a chanted interjection in a Sa1man (such as %{hum} , %{ho} , %{oha} 
c.) , hum , hurrah , hymn Br. S3rS. MBh. BhP. ; a partic. division of the 
Sa1ma-veda (q.v.) ; torpor , paralysis = %{ceSTA-vighAta} Nalac. ; disrespect , 
contumely (= %{helana}) L.

NB. Because 'suutram' is a neuter gender word, thus having the
ending -m even in the nominative singular case, it's impossible
to say, whether some of  those other forms ending in -m
are agreeing with 'suutram', or indeclinable (ind.), adverb
like forms. Totally up to anyone to decide which one is the
case...

So, a translation might start for instance like this:

Knowers of suutras (suutra-vidah) know (viduH) a suutra (to be, or
stuff) alpaakSaram, etc.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-21 Thread cardemaister


Just occurred to me, are them real of fake?? :o



[FairfieldLife] The Light That Dances

2011-08-21 Thread turquoiseb
I posted this yesterday morning, but it seems to have disappeared into
the Black Hole Of Yahoo, so here goes again...

It occurs to me that I should explain to those who have criticized me on
occasion for derailing spiritual conversations on this forum with my
irrelevancies about movies that I don't see them as irrelevant. Movies
are very much a part of my spiritual sadhana.

They were long before I met the Rama guy, but that kinda cemented
things. As students, we used to go en masse to the movies with him, and
then discuss them afterwards. In the same way that teachers from the
Vedic era used metaphors from that era that their students could
identify with -- cows, milk, cows, and cows -- Rama used the metaphor of
movies in his teachings. He could somehow turn The Road Warrior into a
dissertation on Buddhist ethics and the nobility of sacrifice. This may
have had some influence, Bob, on my ability to see Cowboys  Aliens as
a similar dissertation. :-)

Because we had seen many of these movies together, we developed a kind
of weird spiritual shorthand with regard to them. If the guy wanted to
talk about a certain aspect of the warrior mindset, he could just drop
into one of his talks the appropriate line from a great warrior movie,
and zap! we'd be in the mindstate of that scene. Remembering that moment
in the movie somehow drew the power of that moment into the present.
Same with comedies, when drawing laughter into the present, or with
actual spiritual films like Gandhi. Assuming you've seen that movie,
what mindset pops into your mind when you hear the line I know a way
out of hell? Doesn't that whole scene and the impact of its timeless
compasssion leap to your mind, and allow you to feel the emotional
impact of it again? Spiritual shorthand.

On another level, movies are for me the perfect metaphor for Maya
because they don't even really move. They're nothing but a series of
still images projected onto a screen so fast that our brains are tricked
into perceiving the images as moving. But, if we suspend disbelief and
immerse our selves in this illusion of motion, for a couple of hours we
can move along with it, remarkably free from our selves.

At least I can. I've seen a LOT of crappy movies, but I love that thrill
of delight that accompanies the moment when I realize I'm watching a
good one. The story or the characters or something about the
cinematography *grabs* me, and it's like the cry of the parrots in
Aldous Huxley's Island -- Attention! Here and now, boys! When that
happens, something in me stops being me and starts participating in the
movie by giving it as much as I can of my full attention, relaxing, and
seeing where it takes me.

Sometimes it takes me to a shinier, happier place, as Midnight In
Paris recently did. Sometimes it takes me to a darker but more honest
place, as watching The Whistleblower recently did (it's about human
trafficking, and thus SO not light viewing). But if the dance of light
on the screen takes me somewhere other than the place I was at before I
watched it -- if, like Gil I leave the theater and realize that I've
mentally moved to Paris, and am no longer in the Kansas of my normal,
everyday mindset any more, Toto -- then I feel that I've gained
something from the experience spiritually.

YMMV. Some see movies as a way to divert themselves from the tedium of
their lives. I see them as a way of reminding me that nothing about life
is tedious.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-21 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 Just occurred to me, are them real or fake?? :o

The answer to this koan was more easily realized
on Spanish beaches. There the jiggle factor was
the the big tell. Or, if the woman in question was
reclining, whether them remained pointing stead-
fastly towards the midheaven, or more gracefully 
went with the natural tendency of gravity.

But all of this stuff Curtis is reporting from David
Eagleman's book has me wondering how we tell whether
*anything* we perceive is real or fake. If the mind
has such an extraordinary ability to shape false data
into what it believes is true, is anything we believe
to be real really real? 

Naturally, this leads me to a discussion of a movie.

This whole subject of What is real? reminded me of
a 1974 SciFi classic made on a shoestring budget by
John Carpenter and Dan O'Bannon, then still in film
school. If you haven't seen it, the necessary back
story for this clip is that a bomb big enough to blow
up an entire planet before it falls into the sun and
causes a supernova that could endanger a to-be-colonized
star system, mistakenly gets the order to detonate. This
is problematic, because it's still stuck in the bomb bay.
As far as the bomb knows, it's been given the order to
detonate, thus fulfilling its purpose in life. The crew
is trying to stop the bomb from exploding, and in 
desperation one of the crew decides to teach the 
bomb epistemology.

AI bomb being taught epistemology:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjGRySVyTDk

The bomb's resulting epiphany:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9-Niv2Xh7w





[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-21 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Just occurred to me, are them real or fake?? :o
 
 The answer to this koan was more easily realized
 on Spanish beaches. There the jiggle factor was
 the the big tell. Or, if the woman in question was
 reclining, whether them remained pointing stead-
 fastly towards the midheaven, or more gracefully 
 went with the natural tendency of gravity.

Why Spanish (topless) beaches are better when 
dealing with this epistemological question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgE0XNK-tDENR=1

Another instance in which the ability of the
brain to be fooled (and tangentially related
to the question of size when determining real
vs. fake):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_hwMtG2xCsNR=1




[FairfieldLife] The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread turquoiseb
1. Tip well. The waitress can either be your best friend, or your worst
enemy. If you want to come back and write in this cafe again, it is far
better to be perceived as an over-tipping American than a cheapskate
Dutchman. Just sayin'.

2. If you truly want not to be noticed (and thus hit upon, for
conversation or for other reasons), watch the Monty Python How Not To
Be Seen sketch before going to the cafe. Pay attention.

3. If you open your computer and find yourself faced with a blank page
(Hemingway's dreaded white bull) for longer than you expected, do not
despair. Just write something...anything. The flow of writing hath its
own rules, and knowing in advance what is going to come out is not one
of them.

4. Alcohol should never be mistaken for inspiration. On the other hand,
alcohol can often provide the lubricant that allows inspiration to flow.
Once it's started flowing, stop drinking. Think K-Y...you really don't
have to keep applying it every five minutes if you've got a good rhythm
going for you.

5. Don't allow your intended audience to sit at your table unless it
really helps you to imagine them there. One of the most useful
techniques for getting one's self out of the way when writing is to
not include any other selves in the process.

6. Never edit what you find yourself writing. That's what publishers pay
non-writers to do; they're paying you to write. Division of labor,
dudes.

7. Don't think about deadlines. If you really thought you were going to
make yours, would you be in this cafe? On the other hand, if you just go
with the here-and-now flow, here and now, and it *works*, you just might
make the deadline anyway. Stranger things have happened. Kerouac really
did write On The Road in one three-week marathon session. Sorta.

8. As with Bardic storytelling, a short period spent writing about a
seeming non-sequitur may majorly pay off for you. At the time you
originally wrote it, you thought it was procrastination. But later in
the overall storytelling process, you find that you can't do without it,
and that the non-sequitur provides you with the perfect ending to the
story you thought it was a non-sequitur to.

9. Never invite your wife or husband or lover to sit with you as you
write unless they're into cafe writing as well. If they are, don't ask
to see what they wrote while watching you write. Never. You must trust
me on this.

10. Pick a good cafe, one that seems to be full of people who are
enjoying their lives, or at the very least seem to be enjoying these
moments of their lives. If they aren't, you won't.





[FairfieldLife] A lot like spiritual Fairfield

2011-08-21 Thread Buck
The Greek Monasteries 'suspended in the air':

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/fast_track/9538533.stm





Re: [FairfieldLife] Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread Vaj

On Aug 21, 2011, at 3:12 AM, cardemaister wrote:

 
 According to someone, from vaayu- and skanda-puraaNa:
 
 alpAkSaram asandigdhaM sAra-vat vizvato-mukham
 astobham anavadyaM ca sUtraM sUtra-vido viduH
 
 The translation on that site seemed rather scarce.
 
 Perhaps everyone might try to come up with 
 their own translation.
 
 Vocabulary
 
 alpaakSaram -- [my guess] smallsyllable(d): most probably a 
 bahuvriihi meaning 'having only a few syllables'
 
 asaMdigdhamfn. not indistinct MBh. xii ; undoubted , unsuspected , 
 certain Jain. (Pra1kr2it {-diddha}) ; Pat. ; ***(%{am}) ind. without any 
 doubt , certainly Pan5cat. Ma1rkP***
 
 sAravat   mfn. hard , solid , firm , strong , steadfast MBh. R. c. ; 
 substantial , nourishing (as food) Car. ; valuable , precious MBh. Ka1m. ; 
 having pith or sap , containing resin Sus3r. ; 
 
 anavadya  mf(%{A4})n. irreproachable , faultless ; unobjectionable ; 
 (%{A}) f. N. of an Apsaras.
 
 vizvatomukha [z = sh -- card] (%{-zva4to-}) mfn. facing all sides , one whose 
 face is turned everywhere RV. AV. MBh. c. ; (%{am}) ind , in every direction 
 BhP. ; m. N. of the sun MBh.
 
 astobham -- prolly opposite of 'stobham'
 
 stobham. a chanted interjection in a Sa1man (such as %{hum} , %{ho} , 
 %{oha} c.) , hum , hurrah , hymn Br. S3rS. MBh. BhP. ; a partic. division of 
 the Sa1ma-veda (q.v.) ; torpor , paralysis = %{ceSTA-vighAta} Nalac. ; 
 disrespect , contumely (= %{helana}) L.
 
 NB. Because 'suutram' is a neuter gender word, thus having the
 ending -m even in the nominative singular case, it's impossible
 to say, whether some of those other forms ending in -m
 are agreeing with 'suutram', or indeclinable (ind.), adverb
 like forms. Totally up to anyone to decide which one is the
 case...
 
 So, a translation might start for instance like this:
 
 Knowers of suutras (suutra-vidah) know (viduH) a suutra (to be, or
 stuff) alpaakSaram, etc.

A sUtra is a compilation of aphorisms that expresses the essence of all 
knowledge in a minimum of words. It must be universally applicable to all the 
faces of consciousness and faultless in its linguistic presentation.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-21 Thread Vaj

On Aug 21, 2011, at 1:06 AM, fflmod wrote:

 I have not been in Fairfield in the last eleven years and so have not seen 
 him in a while, but I can tell you the author of that letter used to listen 
 to Rush Limbaugh on the radio every chance he got and used to go to the 
 course office to complain that so-and-so was not doing his part to save the 
 world by going to the dome regularly. What does that tell you?


It was the Oxycontin talking?

:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 A sUtra is a compilation of aphorisms that expresses the 
 essence of all knowledge in a minimum of words. It must be 
 universally applicable to all the faces of consciousness 
 and faultless in its linguistic presentation.

In one word, sutra is thus synonymous with fiction. 






[FairfieldLife] Re: The Light That Dances

2011-08-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 I posted this yesterday morning, but it seems to have disappeared
 into the Black Hole Of Yahoo, so here goes again...

Several of my posts yesterday also disappeared. If you're
posting on the Web site and don't want to have to
reconstruct, make a copy of what you wrote before hitting
Send. Pain in the BUTT.

 It occurs to me that I should explain to those who have
 criticized me on occasion for derailing spiritual 
 conversations on this forum with my irrelevancies about
 movies

I don't recall anybody ever critizing you for doing this.

 that I don't see them as irrelevant. Movies are very
 much a part of my spiritual sadhana.
 
 They were long before I met the Rama guy, but that kinda
 cemented things. As students, we used to go en masse to
 the movies with him, and then discuss them afterwards. In
 the same way that teachers from the Vedic era used
 metaphors from that era that their students could identify
 with -- cows, milk, cows, and cows -- Rama used the
 metaphor of movies in his teachings. He could somehow turn
 The Road Warrior into a dissertation on Buddhist ethics
 and the nobility of sacrifice.

Cinema Nirvana: Enlightenment Lessons from the Movies,
by Dean Sluyter:

Movie fans and spiritual seekers, unite! In Cinema Nirvana,
meditation teacher and award-winning film critic Dean
Sluyter illuminates the hidden enlightenment teachings of
Casablanca, Jaws, The Graduate, The Godfather, Memento, and
ten other classic films, revealing spiritual wisdom in
everything from 007's secret weapons to the colors of the
Seven Dwarfs' eyes.

So grab your popcorn, sit back, and prepare to have your
mind opened. Cinema Nirvana is a funny but wise, practical
but wildly entertaining guide to finding enlightenment—one
movie at a time.

http://www.amazon.com/Cinema-Nirvana-Enlightenment-Lessons-Movies/dp/1400049741/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1313930689sr=1-1

http://tinyurl.com/3bthhoo

Read it some years ago. Highly recommended. Many here
might find the chapter on Invasion of the Body-Snatchers
of considerable interest, because in it Sluyter describes
his involvement with TM (he bailed around 1985) and has
some penetrating things to say about Maharishi.

Here's the final paragraph of that chapter:

I still believe that my first impression of [Maharishi]
was right, that he was made out of light. We all are, the
universe is, but some people, by being *consciously* so,
may manifest that luminosity in an extravivid way that can
inspire others to find it in themselves. I'm pretty sure
he was one such. But how can someone so luminous also be
so flawed? Perhaps that's his final lesson to me. The
blazing, omniradiant light of enlightenment, unlike
physical light, isn't limited to straight lines; it can
travel even through twisted vessels like him, like me,
like you. Despite our best efforts to make ourselves and
our teachers smoothed-out superbeings, pod people without
any fingerprints, we're only human.

Really good writer. His Web site:

http://www.deansluyter.com

He also made half a dozen blog posts on Huffington Post
back in 2009:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-sluyter




[FairfieldLife] Is charisma based on fantasy less real?

2011-08-21 Thread turquoiseb
Another disappeared post, thanks to the Yahoo QA staff,
or lack thereof. I'm reposting it because I'm curious if there
are other DJDM freaks on this forum, and because...well,
I never get close to 50 posts in a week these days anyway,
and it really doesn't matter to me how many of them Yahoo
eats...

All of this talk of what is real vs. what is unreal, in
conjunction with recent talk about charisma and the sense
of I-am-RIGHTness that other people perceive and gravitate
to naturally leads me to a shameless film plug.

It's one of my favorite movies -- easily in my Top Five --
but I find that very few people even know it. This is, IMO,
a result of a confused and misguided publicity campaign
orchestrated by people who never got the movie, and thus
tried to market it as some kind of Johnny Depp youth comedy.
Turns out it IS a comedy, but at the same time very, very
serious about serious subjects such as what is reality,
what is real life vs. fantasy, and what are the only four
great questions in life**. Add to this Marlon Brando and
Faye Dunaway as Depp's costars, and you have the makings
of a major hit. Instead it sunk like a stone, and is now
held in high regard only by those who saw it for what it
was -- one of the best films ever made by a first-time
writer/director.

The film is called Don Juan DeMarco. If you haven't
seen it, you might enjoy it. It has the tightest script
I've ever read (even better than American Beauty), and
both the direction and the performances are letter-perfect.
Perfect is, in fact, the word that most often springs
to my mind when trying to describe it. YMMV, especially
depending on how you feel about things like love and
romance; this is arguably the most romantic film ever
made.

The following clip shows the opening of the movie. Depp
is in his full Don Juan costume and persona:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQiRtJ6uumk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQiRtJ6uumk

A few minutes later in the film, Don Juan is in a mental
institution, being treated by psychiatrist Marlon Brando
to cure him of his delusion that he is Don Juan. But if
it IS a delusion, what enabled him to score so big-time
in this hotel restaurant? The magic of Don Juan DeMarco
is that it blurs the line between delusion and reality,
and treats them as relational, not hierarchical.


** What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is
worth living for, and what is worth dying for? The answer
to each is the same: only love.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
 6. Never edit what you find yourself writing. That's what
 publishers pay non-writers to do; they're paying you to
 write. Division of labor, dudes.

*So* wrong. So arrogant. So counterproductive.

No need to tweak punctuation (unless it makes a difference
to your meaning) or check your spelling or grammar. But
for goodness' sake, *read over* what you've just written
to see whether it makes sense, and revise as needed until
it does.

DO NOT leave that to your editors. It isn't fair to them
to be forced to puzzle out what you meant and fix your
sloppiness and incoherence. It wastes their time; and if
they guess wrong, you'll either have to fix *their* fix,
or, if you don't get to see their fixes before
publication, you'll have to live with your name being
attached in print to something you never meant to say, or
something said badly by non-writers. Or both.

In my experience, no *good* writer is so arrogant as to
think a first draft is perfect just as it is. That may
happen by accident, or some kind of divine inspiration,
once in a blue moon, but it's the sheerest hubris to
assume that it's going to happen *every time*.

Your publishers are not just paying you to put any old
words on a page; they're paying you to give them the 
best work of which you're capable. And unless you're a
total hack, that won't be your first draft, or maybe
even your second or third. The best writers spend more
time revising than they do setting down that first draft.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-21 Thread obbajeeba

The Price is right wrote: 
[The image I get when I use the Mahamantra is a rather curvaceous naked women 
with an excellent tan dancing in front of of two guys in a wagon wearing cheap 
armour. One of them seems to be turning blue from holding his breath
and the other has a bow and arrow in his hand. Am I using the correct mantra?]

Mr Pricedouttatheballpark,
You have the correct mantra!
Do you have any idea how psychic you are? Do YOU? No Jyotishi has ever come 
close to this. So surreal, lets do a book!  A movie!  A reality TV show! A 
flash mob! On this Krishna day, you are the seer of the absolute. My friend 
Krishna, he is delighted with you visionary skills and you will be rewarded, by 
your wife of course! OH, I will have to explain later.you hit the nail on 
the head, dude!


 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 Wow, 14,108. Did he write any
 manuals specifically about managing
 women?
 
 Did you post a you tube link about the
 Spirit Molecule in an earlier post?
 If so, have you read the book?  
 
 
 
 
 From: John jr_esq@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:21:51 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
 breasts
 
 
   
 Maybejust remember the blue guy is fond of dancing with many beautiful 
 women at midnight on a full moon.  He also is known to have married 14,108 
 women.  So, you can learn how to manage women from him.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
 
  Thanks John, 
  
  The image I get when I use the Mahamantra is a rather curvaceous naked 
  women with an excellent tan dancing
  in front of of two guys in a wagon wearing cheap armour. One of them seems 
  to be turning blue from holding his breath
  and the other has a bow and arrow in his hand. Am I using the correct 
  mantra?
  
  
  
  From: John jr_esq@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:15:02 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
  breasts
  
  
  
  Chant the mahamantra while you're with her.  She'll stay away from you 
  for sure.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
  
   You can thank Curtis for this post.
   
   
   
   I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better 
   manage 
   
   the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation 
   that 
   recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the 
   techniques I 
   might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for 
   other posters 
   to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  
   
   The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
   office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial 
   activities. 
   Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
   brilliance,
   she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be 
   causing 
   me tennis elbow (in both arms).
   
   My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a 
   new hire 
   and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked 
   to help is 
   an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, 
   this woman graduated 
   with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her 
   managers expectations 
   when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the 
   other 30% of her time she 
   reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
   her significant screw ups. Some 
   may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
   language screams 
   “save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why 
   great Moms teach their daughters to avoid 
   “wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next 
   plane out of town when you run into 
   a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on 
   time for that plane.  
   
   In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
   down across from her in  
   her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this 
   situation, I employed an uncertainty management
   technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she 
   pretended that my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 
    I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip 
   and pretending its not making me that happy. The end 
   result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a 
   mutual non verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 
   occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking 
   the reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 
   the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 21, 2011, at 7:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

 1. Tip well. The waitress can either be your best friend, or your worst
 enemy. If you want to come back and write in this cafe again, it is far
 better to be perceived as an over-tipping American than a cheapskate
 Dutchman. Just sayin'.

I'd be in there about 5 minutes before
they had me  pegged.

Barry, just out of curiosity, have you 
ever considered painting of any sort?
Your writing often brings up a picture
in my mind.

Sal 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread Vaj

On Aug 21, 2011, at 9:46 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
 
  A sUtra is a compilation of aphorisms that expresses the 
  essence of all knowledge in a minimum of words. It must be 
  universally applicable to all the faces of consciousness 
  and faultless in its linguistic presentation.
 
 In one word, sutra is thus synonymous with fiction. 

In a phrase, a sutra must be spontaneously capable of sustaining multiple 
entendre.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7Ge7Sogrk

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 On Aug 21, 2011, at 7:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
  1. Tip well. The waitress can either be your best friend, or your worst
  enemy. If you want to come back and write in this cafe again, it is far
  better to be perceived as an over-tipping American than a cheapskate
  Dutchman. Just sayin'.
 
 I'd be in there about 5 minutes before
 they had me  pegged.
 
 Barry, just out of curiosity, have you 
 ever considered painting of any sort?
 Your writing often brings up a picture
 in my mind.
 
 Sal





[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-21 Thread emptybill
Wiki it Willi.

Transcendentalism is based upon Kant and German Idealism. The Vedas and
Upanishads are based upon Shruti - the self-revealing utterance of Vac.

Another alternative meaning for transcendentalism is the classical
philosophy that God transcends the manifest world. As John Scotus
Erigena  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Scotus_Eriugena put it
to Frankish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks  king Charles the Bald
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_the_Bald  in the year 840 AD, We
do not know what God is. God himself doesn't know what He is because He
is not anything. Literally God is not, because He transcends being.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams
willytex@... wrote:

 Of course, all the teachers of the Upanishads were
 transcendentalists. Why do you think they all made
 reference to Brahman, the Transcendental Person?

 LoL!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Is charisma based on fantasy less real?

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff
Great movie, Turq; many thanks. You remind me of another one I liked -- of a 
very different flavor -- called The Invention of Lying, which also nicely 
showed the relationship of Us with our I-particles, our bodymind, which 
believes pretty much everything we tell it in here, and then materializes our 
simple ideas or rules or programs as our Life out there. 

What I have been calling surrender into Reality could just as easily be 
called taking full responsibility for my own particular Reality. 

Life is not *a* Bitch; Life is *my* Bitch. In taking full responsibility for 
Her, just as She IS, as my perfect and utterly faithful other half, I surrender 
my heart to Her completely and adore Her madly, passionately. We cleave 
whole-heartedly to one another as husband and  wife. My Life is my wife, is my 
own bodymind, as well as the movie out there it automatically creates or 
chooses from the great teeming chaos of What IS to dance out and display the 
choreography of my own simple thoughts. 

The original-series Star Trek episode Shore Leave, written by Theodore 
Sturgeon, beautifully expresses this understanding: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shore_Leave_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series) 

Earth is like an amusement park which automatically materializes all of our 
thoughts (or rules) for us to enjoy. But for the most part we haven't even 
been aware of thinking those thoughts, and so some of us have considered this a 
nightmarish Hell-planet...

*L*L*L*

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Another disappeared post, thanks to the Yahoo QA staff,
 or lack thereof. I'm reposting it because I'm curious if there
 are other DJDM freaks on this forum, and because...well,
 I never get close to 50 posts in a week these days anyway,
 and it really doesn't matter to me how many of them Yahoo
 eats...
 
 All of this talk of what is real vs. what is unreal, in
 conjunction with recent talk about charisma and the sense
 of I-am-RIGHTness that other people perceive and gravitate
 to naturally leads me to a shameless film plug.
 
 It's one of my favorite movies -- easily in my Top Five --
 but I find that very few people even know it. This is, IMO,
 a result of a confused and misguided publicity campaign
 orchestrated by people who never got the movie, and thus
 tried to market it as some kind of Johnny Depp youth comedy.
 Turns out it IS a comedy, but at the same time very, very
 serious about serious subjects such as what is reality,
 what is real life vs. fantasy, and what are the only four
 great questions in life**. Add to this Marlon Brando and
 Faye Dunaway as Depp's costars, and you have the makings
 of a major hit. Instead it sunk like a stone, and is now
 held in high regard only by those who saw it for what it
 was -- one of the best films ever made by a first-time
 writer/director.
 
 The film is called Don Juan DeMarco. If you haven't
 seen it, you might enjoy it. It has the tightest script
 I've ever read (even better than American Beauty), and
 both the direction and the performances are letter-perfect.
 Perfect is, in fact, the word that most often springs
 to my mind when trying to describe it. YMMV, especially
 depending on how you feel about things like love and
 romance; this is arguably the most romantic film ever
 made.
 
 The following clip shows the opening of the movie. Depp
 is in his full Don Juan costume and persona:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQiRtJ6uumk
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQiRtJ6uumk
 
 A few minutes later in the film, Don Juan is in a mental
 institution, being treated by psychiatrist Marlon Brando
 to cure him of his delusion that he is Don Juan. But if
 it IS a delusion, what enabled him to score so big-time
 in this hotel restaurant? The magic of Don Juan DeMarco
 is that it blurs the line between delusion and reality,
 and treats them as relational, not hierarchical.
 
 
 ** What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is
 worth living for, and what is worth dying for? The answer
 to each is the same: only love.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Aug 21, 2011, at 9:46 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   A sUtra is a compilation of aphorisms that expresses the 
   essence of all knowledge in a minimum of words. It must be 
   universally applicable to all the faces of consciousness 
   and faultless in its linguistic presentation.
  
  In one word, sutra is thus synonymous with fiction. 
 
 In a phrase, a sutra must be spontaneously capable of sustaining multiple 
 entendre.

* * Nicely said, Vaj! Somewhat as a pun tickles itself and laughs 
simultaneously on many frequencies :-)



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-21 Thread Denise Evans
Love those clips!  It's all in how one defines the word real.   
 
--- On Sun, 8/21/11, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:


From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2011, 3:34 AM


  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 Just occurred to me, are them real or fake?? :o

The answer to this koan was more easily realized
on Spanish beaches. There the jiggle factor was
the the big tell. Or, if the woman in question was
reclining, whether them remained pointing stead-
fastly towards the midheaven, or more gracefully 
went with the natural tendency of gravity.

But all of this stuff Curtis is reporting from David
Eagleman's book has me wondering how we tell whether
*anything* we perceive is real or fake. If the mind
has such an extraordinary ability to shape false data
into what it believes is true, is anything we believe
to be real really real? 

Naturally, this leads me to a discussion of a movie.

This whole subject of What is real? reminded me of
a 1974 SciFi classic made on a shoestring budget by
John Carpenter and Dan O'Bannon, then still in film
school. If you haven't seen it, the necessary back
story for this clip is that a bomb big enough to blow
up an entire planet before it falls into the sun and
causes a supernova that could endanger a to-be-colonized
star system, mistakenly gets the order to detonate. This
is problematic, because it's still stuck in the bomb bay.
As far as the bomb knows, it's been given the order to
detonate, thus fulfilling its purpose in life. The crew
is trying to stop the bomb from exploding, and in 
desperation one of the crew decides to teach the 
bomb epistemology.

AI bomb being taught epistemology:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjGRySVyTDk

The bomb's resulting epiphany:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9-Niv2Xh7w








[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation - for Buck

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig
As everyone knows, this is counter to TM instruction.

The first research on pure consciousness during TM was published more than 25 
years ago and quite forcefully explains why this (Sahaj) practice isn't as 
effective as TM practice.

Researchers asked people to press a button when they had an episode of pure 
consciousness. What the researchers found was that by the time a meditator 
pushed the button, they were no longer in an unusual state of consciousness: 
they had returned towards normal (for TM practice) levels of Alplha coherence 
and relaxed breathing.

In other words, by the time you notice you are in pure consciousness during 
TM, you are actually out of it. Deciding to remain in this quiet state is 
impossible because the quiet state simply cannot be noticed while you are in 
it, so all you are doing is detracting from the *process* that is TM. Pure 
consciousness is totally unimportant during TM. It is the process of the inward 
stroke of meditation (decreasing mental activity) followed by the outer stroke 
that matters. Some period of inactivity at the transition between inward and 
outward is totally unimportant because in order to note that you are in that 
state of inactivity requires that the mind be active enough to note something 
in the first place.

Research suggests that this will be true for everyone, no matter how long their 
pure consciousness during TM lasts: if they note that they are in pure 
consciousness, they are no longer in the pure state. Now, for someone who 
transcends for an entire meditation period, this model/theory may break down, 
but how many reading this have 20 minutes of breath suspension during TM 
practice and how would you know?

L



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 
 Besides the difference in mantra-s, there is a difference in how the two
 meditations are done.
 
 In Sahaj practice, the understanding is that the mantra doesn't go
 anywhere so we don't actually lose the mantra. Because we
 were introduced to the mantra at initiation, it is naturally recognized
 and recollected when we sit down to meditate. However, if during
 meditation our attention has been absorbed in thoughts for a while
 without realizing it, then we just return to the mantra by recognizing
 it again. If we find our attention aware of thoughts occurring within
 the mind, that in itself, does not constitute a reason or a need to
 reintroduce the mantra. Just to rest in silent awareness, although there
 is no activity or object reference, is in itself meditation
 because awareness is fundamental while the mind is not.
 
 Or as SSRS has said, although you cannot know awareness,
 because it is not an object, you don't need to do so because you are
 that very awareness itself prior to mind and to the mind's
 experiences, whether objective or subjective.
 
 ��������������������..
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
   The Power of Mantra
 
 
   Contrary to public misinformation, techniques like Transcendental
 Meditation or Sahaj Samadhi are not based on repetition. They utilize
 a much subtler science.
  
 
 Om, so are Transcendental Meditation and Sahaj Samadhi effectively the
 same? The similar practice? Just wondering. Anyone learned both? Anyone
 here taught both? -B
 
 
 
 
 
   vibrations of consciousness. Mantra carries the mind to the silence
 that
   was there before God said, Let there be light.
  
   In Sanskrit, mantra means vehicle for the mind: manas - mind, tra -
   vehicle. Tra is the root of our English suffix, tron. Electrons
 carry
   electricity. Positrons carry positivity. Mantras carry mind to its
 source.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig
But a sutra is valid on all possible frequencies, to use your analogy. A 
continuum of values is different than multiple discrete values, though in the 
real world, continuous merely means so many that they are uncountable for 
all practical purposes. Even so, enumerating all the possible meanings of a 
sutra, according to the definition below, would require that you also enumerate 
all the possible points of view that the sutra could be viewed from, which is 
still impossible for all practical purposes.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  On Aug 21, 2011, at 9:46 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   
A sUtra is a compilation of aphorisms that expresses the 
essence of all knowledge in a minimum of words. It must be 
universally applicable to all the faces of consciousness 
and faultless in its linguistic presentation.
   
   In one word, sutra is thus synonymous with fiction. 
  
  In a phrase, a sutra must be spontaneously capable of sustaining multiple 
  entendre.
 
 * * Nicely said, Vaj! Somewhat as a pun tickles itself and laughs 
 simultaneously on many frequencies :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff
An interesting viewpoint, Lawson; many thanks. I have no idea whether a 
continuum of values is actually different than multiple discrete ones, but I 
strongly suspect they are actually the same. It seems to come down to the 
particle-vs.-wave viewpoints of what is actually a wavicle. By the same token, 
all the possible points of view are also Only One of Us, not intellectually 
enumarable perhaps, but still whole-heartedly, self-ticklingly BE-able.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 But a sutra is valid on all possible frequencies, to use your analogy. A 
 continuum of values is different than multiple discrete values, though in the 
 real world, continuous merely means so many that they are uncountable for 
 all practical purposes. Even so, enumerating all the possible meanings of a 
 sutra, according to the definition below, would require that you also 
 enumerate all the possible points of view that the sutra could be viewed 
 from, which is still impossible for all practical purposes.
 
 L
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   On Aug 21, 2011, at 9:46 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:

 A sUtra is a compilation of aphorisms that expresses the 
 essence of all knowledge in a minimum of words. It must be 
 universally applicable to all the faces of consciousness 
 and faultless in its linguistic presentation.

In one word, sutra is thus synonymous with fiction. 
   
   In a phrase, a sutra must be spontaneously capable of sustaining 
   multiple entendre.
  
  * * Nicely said, Vaj! Somewhat as a pun tickles itself and laughs 
  simultaneously on many frequencies :-)
 





[FairfieldLife] [Of Dystopias and Alphas] by Maureen Doud NYT

2011-08-21 Thread Robert
President Obama was on the way to Alpha when a plea came for him to be, well, 
more alpha. 

LuAnn Lavine, a real estate agent from Geneseo, a rural town just up the road 
from Alpha, Ill., the last stop on the president’s Midwestern bus tour, told 
The Times’s Jeff Zeleny: “Everyone was so hopeful with him, but Washington 
grabbed him and here we are. I just want him to stay strong and don’t take the 
guff. We want a president who is a leader, and I want him to be a little bit 
stronger.” 
Hers was a gentler message than the sign stuck on a post outside Alpha: “One 
Term President.” 
But her three words summed it up: Washington grabbed him. Why did this man 
whose contempt for Congress is clear, who ran on the idea that he could 
transform a broken Washington, surrender to its conventional timetable and 
bureaucratic language? 
The “supercommittee” that’s supposed to save us just sounds like more 
government bloat — supersizing something just as unhealthy as McDonald’s. 
Is Obama so isolated he can’t see that Americans are curled up in a ball, 
beaten down by a financial crisis, an identity crisis, a political crisis and a 
leadership crisis? 
He got the job by blaming Washington. But once you’re in the White House, you 
are Washington. It’s like the plumber who came to fix the sink waiting for the 
sink to fix itself. 
I covered the first President Bush when he took a slide from Iraq war hero to 
one-term president. A turning point came in the fall of 1991, when Americans 
were getting jittery about the economy. Conservatives urged Bush to adopt an 
aggressive agenda and a muscular stance toward Congress. But relying on the 
disastrous advice of his budget adviser Richard Darman, Bush waited for more 
than a month until the State of the Union address and repackaged the same tepid 
agenda. 
President Obama bashed Congress on his bus tour. But after delegating to 
Congress time and again with disastrous results, he continues to play the 
satellite to Congress. 
He shouldn’t be driven by the Washington schedule. He should be setting it. 
At long last, he promised a clear economic plan. Unfortunately, he had the 
fierce urgency of next month, when Congress gets back to town. 
Americans are rattled and want action. They don’t know or care what Congress’s 
schedule is. They just see the president not doing anything. 
Cruising white Midwestern hamlet in his black bus, Obama tried to justify not 
calling lawmakers back to D.C. by saying they’d just continue to bicker. But 
what does he think they’ll do in September? The truth is, he doesn’t want them 
back in the capital any more than they want to be back. It would have screwed 
up his vacation and upset Michelle, who already feels trapped in the Washington 
bubble. 
If Clinton wanted to be president 25 hours a day and W. wanted to be president 
four hours a day, Obama wants to be president for about 14 hours a day. And 
that’s fine, as long as you don’t look like you’re phoning it in when the 
country is dialing 911. 
White House officials must be worried about the 10-day Martha’s Vineyard idyll 
because, in a rare move, they put out a picture of the president with furrowed 
brow and Nike shirt getting a briefing from John Brennan, his top 
counterterrorism adviser. 
There were no pictures allowed of him at the Vineyard Golf Club, only shots of 
the president shopping for books with his daughters. He was seen in the Bunch 
of Grapes bookstore on Friday holding “Brave New World.” Maybe he was brushing 
up on dystopias and alphas. 
He might also want to pick up a volume of Robert Frost for some insight on why 
Democrats waste time trying to reconcile with ruthless foes. The president 
still believes he can use his enchanting powers to convert the other side, even 
though Republicans regard every Obama legislative achievement as the beginning 
of a campaign to recall it. Heck, they’re still trying to repeal the New Deal. 
Obama was truly stung by his budget experience with John Boehner. And now, 
Senator Tom Coburn, whom Obama called “not only a dear friend, but also a 
brother in Christ” at February’s National Prayer Breakfast, tells a town hall 
in Oklahoma that Obama’s views are “goofy and wrong,” and that the president 
wants to “create dependency” because “as an African-American male,” he had 
received “tremendous benefit” from government programs. 
There is no way to sell the idea that being a black man in America gives you 
tremendous benefit. 
How does Obama feel after his brother in Christ painted him as something akin 
to a welfare queen and an affirmative-action president? 
Let us take today’s lesson from Frost, who deliciously wrote in “The Lesson for 
Today”: 
I’m liberal. You, you aristocrat,
Won’t know exactly what I mean by that.
I mean so altruistically moral
I never take my own side in a quarrel.
 
 





[FairfieldLife] 'As the Republicans 'Crucify' Obama'...

2011-08-21 Thread Robert
'They' crucify the rest of us as well...!
 
Standing in the way of anything he tries to do, sabotaging his every move...
 
Only the light of pure consciousness can see us through...
 
J.G.D.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'As the Republicans 'Crucify' Obama'...

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig

I'm afraid you are probably correct. The observation about rich men and camels 
certainly seems to apply here.

L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:

 'They' crucify the rest of us as well...!
 �
 Standing in the way of anything he tries to do, sabotaging his every move...
 �
 Only the light of pure consciousness can see us through...
 �
 J.G.D.





[FairfieldLife] Nand Kishore

2011-08-21 Thread Rick Archer
I just watched David Wants to Fly for the first time last night. I had
heard about the controversy among the rajas that was part of the film, but
no one had mentioned that Nand Kishore was the center of the controversy. He
was the Indian guy who sat there next to Bevan and challenged Tony Nader's
right to take over the movement (until they shut off his mic). Kind of an
interesting tidbit, don't you think? Wonder where he is now?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buffett says Tax the Rich

2011-08-21 Thread Mike Dixon
Oh Judy, I realize that. However, he is a unit of the collective consciousness 
of FFL. I pay little attention to VAj, rarely reading his posts. I just get a 
*kick* out of reading the posts of the *cerebral crowd*, expounding from their 
superior intellects and tolerance for their own positions and I'm just tempted 
to put my two cents worth in. Then, I let it go... and take it as it comes. His 
attempted mocking of one or all five of the Texas accents reminds me of my 
youth when I thought it was cool  to mock Ebonics, not out of hate, but because 
it sounded so cool. However, I realized that my perception was not the same as 
the person's being mocked

and that it was like a knife, cutting into the soul of another person. That 
awareness, allowed me to *let it go(mocking people's speech)... and take it as 
it comes.* That simple instruction in meditation is a perfect exercise in 
learning how to *forgive*, one's self and others. Too bad we don't apply that 
technique more in our actions instead of limiting it to the field of thinking, 
more specifically... meditation.
From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buffett says Tax the Rich


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Bhwahahahahahah it doesn't take much to bring out that
 transcendental peace and love from FFL! MAharishi would
 b so proud! LOL

Er, Mike, Vaj hasn't been a TMer for a long time (if he
ever was).

 From: Vaj vajradhatu@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Buffett says Tax the Rich
 
 On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 
  I care because if I were a billionaire, I wouldn't invest any
  of my money in an economy that was going to keep demanding
  that I keep subsidizing poverty.
 
 What ya should be dewin is goin' to Texas and praying to Jaysus
 witt Goobernor Purry. Jaysus controls this unified field thingy
 everyone knows. Hell how do ya think santa claws travels faster
 than light? It's the power of Jaysus and the unified fielders.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-21 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


  Of course, all the teachers of the Upanishads were
  transcendentalists. Why do you think they all made
  reference to Brahman, the Transcendental Person?
 
emptybill:
 Transcendentalism is based upon Kant and German 
 Idealism. 

Indian idealism came long before German Idealism. All 
Indian philosophical systems that postulate Brahman, 
are considered to be idealistic and in the Upanishad 
system. 

The Brahman in Indian scriptures refers to the Absolute 
that is beyond, or transcendental to, the senses of 
the material world. The Brahman or the Purusha is the 
Transcendental Person.

 The Vedas and Upanishads are based upon Shruti - 
 the self-revealing utterance of Vac.

Yoga is the cessation of the mental turnings of the 
mind: 

yoga citta vritti nirodha (Y.S. I.1.2). 

When thought ceases, the Transcendental Absolute 
stands by itself, refers to Itself, as a witness to 
the world: 

tada drastuh svarupe vasthanam (Y.S. I.1.3). 

Translation by Swami Venkatesananda Saraswati:
http://www.swamivenkatesananda.com/

Read more:

Subject: Raja Yoga 
From: Willytex
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, 
alt.yoga, alt.meditation
Date: September 18, 2003
http://tinyurl.com/2vpf58n



Re: [FairfieldLife] Nand Kishore

2011-08-21 Thread Vaj

On Aug 21, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

 I just watched “David Wants to Fly” for the first time last night. I had 
 heard about the “controversy among the rajas” that was part of the film, but 
 no one had mentioned that Nand Kishore was the center of the controversy. He 
 was the Indian guy who sat there next to Bevan and challenged Tony Nader’s 
 right to take over the movement (until they shut off his mic). Kind of an 
 interesting tidbit, don’t you think? Wonder where he is now?
 

You should write a review from your POV, esp. given your inside knowledge.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 An interesting viewpoint, Lawson; many thanks. I have no idea whether a 
 continuum of values is actually different than multiple discrete ones, but I 
 strongly suspect they are actually the same. It seems to come down to the 
 particle-vs.-wave viewpoints of what is actually a wavicle. By the same 
 token, all the possible points of view are also Only One of Us, not 
 intellectually enumarable perhaps, but still whole-heartedly, self-ticklingly 
 BE-able.

* * Sorry: not enumarable but enumerable; and so not enumerable but 
innumerable; That alone R US! 



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread seventhray1


 On Aug 21, 2011, at 7:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

  1. Tip well. The waitress can either be your best friend, or your
worst
  enemy. If you want to come back and write in this cafe again, it is
far
  better to be perceived as an over-tipping American than a cheapskate
  Dutchman. Just sayin'.


Applies even to carry outs.  Better to tip generously, but even a
standard amount is acceptable.  Just don't go below the standard.  The
expectation of a tip can really have an effect on service.  If you are
an infrequent diner, if you send some kind of non verbal cue, that
helps, but usually you can't really do that, other than just being 
pleasant to the server.

Yesterday I was a little clever.  The daughter and I stopped in for a
quick lunch at Ruby Tuesdays.  They've got a great crab cake appetizer
and a great salad bar.  Salad bar is $2.99 with anything ordered,
otherwise it's $8.99.  We ordered one crab cake and one salad bar, and
that server was watching me like a hawk making sure I wasn't going to
partake of that salad bar.  (It was for my daughter).  I asked for the
bill early, gave him a generous tip (well over 20%), and then got an
extra serving or two at the salad bar which I ate without guilt.

But in general, it's nice to be perceived as being a little generous,
which I can often do, because my lunch and dinner bills are usually
pretty small.



[FairfieldLife] Dean Sluyter (was Re: The Light That Dances)

2011-08-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
snip
 [Dean Sluyter, author of Cinema Nirvana] also made half
 a dozen blog posts on Huffington Post back in 2009:
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-sluyter

I just read all six of Dean Sluyter's posts on 
Huffington Post. They're very much worth a look:


Emily Dickinson and the Buddha vs. the WWF

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-sluyter/emily-dickinson-and-the-b_b_251383.html

http://tinyurl.com/nudqxh

-

The Dharma of Celebrity Death

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-sluyter/the-dharma-of-celebrity-d_b_243756.html

http://tinyurl.com/mlvkta

-

It's Official: Nobody's Cool. (Kerouac Posthumously Blows It)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-sluyter/its-official-nobody-is-co_b_205371.html

http://tinyurl.com/q6l6nm

-

Your Junk Drawer vs. Nirvana

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-sluyter/your-junk-drawer-vs-nirva_b_201204.html

http://tinyurl.com/r7f5uc

-

Spirituality ‚ Belief [In case it doesn't show up properly, 
the character between the two words is a does not equal 
sign.--JS]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-sluyter/spirituality-belief_b_185899.html

http://tinyurl.com/dat2b4

-

Lord Shiva Kicks Ass: The Liberating Power of Loss

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-sluyter/lord-shiva-kicks-ass-the_b_179628.html

http://tinyurl.com/d4ot2e


It strikes me that Sluyter is sort of the anti-Barry.
These posts are very much like Barry's cafe raps in
some ways, extended musings on a variety of different
thoughts inspired by current observations of the world
and informed by a lifetime of experience and spiritual
study and reflection. He makes many of the same points,
in fact, that Barry does.

But Sluyter's posts are very different from Barry's in
other ways. They're all beautifully, cleanly, colorfully,
tightly, *coherently* written; and he does not engage in
either putdowns or self-exaltation. He's consistently
humble, compassionate, and loving, as well as wonderfully
eloquent.

A great antidote. I wish he'd written more of them.


(I posted the above this morning, but it hadn't shown
up as of 2:45 this afternoon.)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/21/2011 11:25 AM, RoryGoff wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoffrorygoff@...  wrote:
 An interesting viewpoint, Lawson; many thanks. I have no idea whether a 
 continuum of values is actually different than multiple discrete ones, but I 
 strongly suspect they are actually the same. It seems to come down to the 
 particle-vs.-wave viewpoints of what is actually a wavicle. By the same 
 token, all the possible points of view are also Only One of Us, not 
 intellectually enumarable perhaps, but still whole-heartedly, 
 self-ticklingly BE-able.
 * * Sorry: not enumarable but enumerable; and so not enumerable but 
 innumerable; That alone R US!

I guess FFL is becoming Wikipedia where people define terms to fit their 
needs like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin do.  Sutra means thread 
and has alway meant that.  The word suture comes from it.   People 
from other paths reading this thread would be laughing their asses off 
at TMers and former TMers.



Re: [FairfieldLife] 'As the Republicans 'Crucify' Obama'...

2011-08-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/21/2011 10:41 AM, Robert wrote:
 'They' crucify the rest of us as well...!
   
 Standing in the way of anything he tries to do, sabotaging his every move...
   
 Only the light of pure consciousness can see us through...
   
 J.G.D.

I'm sorry, I've long given up on the savior in chief.  He behaves like 
he is a crony of the Republicans. And we know he is a crony of Wall 
Street.  Time to turn off the Santy Claus and Easter Bunny machine and 
deal with reality.

Power to the people!




[FairfieldLife] Summertime

2011-08-21 Thread Denise Evans

Charlie Parkerpurity of sound is bliss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1bWqViY5F4
PS.  This is the second send...first seems to have disappeared.





 



  










[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/21/2011 11:25 AM, RoryGoff wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoffrorygoff@  wrote:
  An interesting viewpoint, Lawson; many thanks. I have no idea whether a 
  continuum of values is actually different than multiple discrete ones, but 
  I strongly suspect they are actually the same. It seems to come down to 
  the particle-vs.-wave viewpoints of what is actually a wavicle. By the 
  same token, all the possible points of view are also Only One of Us, not 
  intellectually enumarable perhaps, but still whole-heartedly, 
  self-ticklingly BE-able.
  * * Sorry: not enumarable but enumerable; and so not enumerable but 
  innumerable; That alone R US!
 
 I guess FFL is becoming Wikipedia where people define terms to fit their 
 needs like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin do.  Sutra means thread 
 and has alway meant that.  The word suture comes from it.   People 
 from other paths reading this thread would be laughing their asses off 
 at TMers and former TMers.


Where did I accept that definition? I was merely pointing out what I saw as an 
intellectual flaw in the reworded description.

OTOH, even in the context of thread, the description has some validity.

The sutra practice, as used in the TM-Siddhis program, is meant to bind the 
absolute and relative states of consciousness along certain specific channels.
E.G. Yogic Flying accustoms the practitioner's nervous system  to hopping 
around vigorously while still in a meditation-like state.

No matter what context or state of consciousness the practitioner is in when 
they do the practice, the description of the technique remains valid: it ties 
some degree of transcendence to some kind of activity associated with the 
sutra's meaning.

L.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/21/2011 11:25 AM, RoryGoff wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoffrorygoff@  wrote:
  An interesting viewpoint, Lawson; many thanks. I have no idea whether a 
  continuum of values is actually different than multiple discrete ones, but 
  I strongly suspect they are actually the same. It seems to come down to 
  the particle-vs.-wave viewpoints of what is actually a wavicle. By the 
  same token, all the possible points of view are also Only One of Us, not 
  intellectually enumarable perhaps, but still whole-heartedly, 
  self-ticklingly BE-able.
  * * Sorry: not enumarable but enumerable; and so not enumerable but 
  innumerable; That alone R US!
 
 I guess FFL is becoming Wikipedia where people define terms to fit their 
 needs like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin do.  Sutra means thread 
 and has alway meant that.  The word suture comes from it.   People 
 from other paths reading this thread would be laughing their asses off 
 at TMers and former TMers.

* * Yes, exactly, Bharaitu! And what does a thread literally *do*? 

It fastens two pieces of cloth together, or folds a cloth back upon itself. It 
stitches together disparate realities into a new unity, or different viewpoints 
into a single continuum; it tickles Us into remembering Us. And if along the 
way we laugh our asses off at and with ourselves, so much the better :-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread merudanda
Obladi oblada life goes on, bra
lala how the life goes on
obladi oblada life goes on, bra
lala how the life goes on
And if you want some fun
sing obladi blada

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
wow
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7Ge7Sogrk
that's art dude!!

Sal was only asking for a painting job [;)]
http://www.paintinghere.com/UploadPic/Alphonse_Maria_Mucha/big/JOB.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/3m66rce


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Aug 21, 2011, at 7:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
   1. Tip well. The waitress can either be your best friend, or your
worst
   enemy. If you want to come back and write in this cafe again, it
is far
   better to be perceived as an over-tipping American than a
cheapskate
   Dutchman. Just sayin'.
 
  I'd be in there about 5 minutes before
  they had me  pegged.
 
  Barry, just out of curiosity, have you
  ever considered painting of any sort?
  Your writing often brings up a picture
  in my mind.
 
  Sal
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/21/2011 11:25 AM, RoryGoff wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoffrorygoff@  wrote:
  An interesting viewpoint, Lawson; many thanks. I have no idea whether a 
  continuum of values is actually different than multiple discrete ones, but 
  I strongly suspect they are actually the same. It seems to come down to 
  the particle-vs.-wave viewpoints of what is actually a wavicle. By the 
  same token, all the possible points of view are also Only One of Us, not 
  intellectually enumarable perhaps, but still whole-heartedly, 
  self-ticklingly BE-able.
  * * Sorry: not enumarable but enumerable; and so not enumerable but 
  innumerable; That alone R US!
 
 I guess FFL is becoming Wikipedia where people define terms
 to fit their needs like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin 
 do.  Sutra means thread and has alway meant that.  The 
 word suture comes from it.   People from other paths
 reading this thread would be laughing their asses off at
 TMers and former TMers.

Oh, probably not. If they had any smarts, they'd know that
words can have both literal meanings and contextual
meanings. In a spiritual context, the meaning can be quite
elaborate and/or metaphorical. That sutra literally means
thread is a given; we all know that. But that doesn't
tell you much about what it means in context. (You just
inadvertently proved this by using thread in the context
of a Web forum, where it has a very different meaning from
what it means in a spiritual context.)




[FairfieldLife] Why the US may be toast

2011-08-21 Thread Bhairitu
Dylan Ratigan: Foreclosure Fraud  45 Trillion  Dollars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yhZBgi5NOg

Yup, as Ratigan asks at the end where are the Tea Baggers on this?  My 
bet they're say why my bank has a wonderful machine that gives me money 
all the time.  So go the idiocrazies.



[FairfieldLife] Huntsman 2.0 - Could Huntsman save the day for the GOP?

2011-08-21 Thread do.rflex


Huntsman 2.0   Thomas Lane | Talking Points Memo | August 21, 2011
Poll after poll shows that
despite President Obama's sinking numbers
he still fares well against
virtually all his major GOP opponents.


-- What do you make of the new hard-hittin',  tough-tweetin' Jon
Huntsman
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/jon-huntsman-takes-on-the-go\
p-field-and-president-obamas-leadership.php?ref=fpa ? We ran a piece
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/is-he-even-trying-huntsmans-\
tweets-almost-seem-designed-to-alienate-the-gop-base.php   on Friday
asking whether the former Utah governor and Obama-appointed  ambassador
to China was even trying to win the nomination any more.  Since then
numerous emails have come in from readers who think he's  making a long
play for the nomination in 2016.
That's certainly a reasonable view. However, it's possible there's 
something else at work here, too.

The Republican establishment is faced with something of a quandary 
right now. Even just a few months ago, the big money and major 
power-brokers thought 2012 was going to be unwinnable. It was widely 
believed that the economy would slowly pick up, and by November of next 
year President Obama would be able to take the credit for that and walk 
to re-election.

This likely prompted the more credible GOP candidates, such as New 
Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, to decide to sit out the coming election and
wait for 2016. By and large the GOP establishment seemed happy enough 
to send out the political equivalent of cannon-fodder that would be torn
apart in the No Man's Land of 2012.

However, the sudden threat of a double-dip recession means this 
election suddenly looks winnable for the Republicans... But only if they
have the right candidate. Poll
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/cnn-poll-the-only-goper-who-\
can-beat-obama-isnot-running.php   after poll
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/obama-surges-to-lead-against\
-generic-republican.php   shows that despite President Obama's sinking
numbers he still fares  well against virtually all his major GOP
opponents.

Presumably this is maddening for the Republican establishment. All of  a
sudden what they need is a moderate savior who's not tarnished by 
either extreme flip-flopping or by outrageous statements against, say,
the  Federal Reserve
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/perry-calls-bernanke-policie\
s-almost-treasonous.php  and the  scientific process
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/perry-responds-to-question-a\
bout-creationism-earth-is-pretty-old-video.php . Hence the current
conservative calls in  some quarters
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/big-names-encourage-paul-ryan-run_5\
90322.html  for Rep. Paul Ryan and the brief  flutter earlier this week
over rumors of a Christie run
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/report-chris-christie-explor\
ing-presidential-run.php .

This must be infuriating for Huntsman; as far as he must be  concerned,
the party already has its moderate savior and he's already in  the race.
Indeed, it's him.

But the problem Huntsman faces is exactly that he is already in the 
race. Unlike Christie or Ryan there are now real polls for Huntsman, and
they show him failing to catch alight.

If he was entering the fray right now he'd figuratively be wearing a 
halo and would be suffused by a glowing ethereal light while angels 
flutter around him, plucking away at harps.

But the nature of the nominating process meant that in order to get a 
viable campaign on the ground, he had to enter a few months ago, before 
there was this great GOP thirst for a candidate just like him. Having 
gotten in at that stage, now the numbers are in as well, and the 
power-brokers can dismiss him while casting their eyes around for a 
candidate whose halo has not been tarnished by the grime of poor poll 
numbers.

That could well be the significance behind this new combative  Huntsman;
he's indicating to the types of people pining after Christie  or Ryan --
and lamenting that they don't have much time to set up a  campaign on
the ground -- that there is already an Independent-friendly  candidate
right under their noses. These new moves are intended to  reboot his
campaign into Huntsman 2.0. At the very least it should  guarantee he at
least gets asked some proper questions in the next GOP  debate. It's a
tough strategy as it does indeed involve alienating the  Tea
Party-leaning sections of the base. But right now it seems the only 
strategy that's left.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/08/huntsman_20.php?ref=fpblg
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/08/huntsman_20.php?ref=fpblg\







[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig
A thread in a forum refers to the connectivity of the individual messages via 
the tree of nodes that describe which message a given message was a response 
to, so there's some slight similarity of meaning, even there.


L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
[...]
 (You just
 inadvertently proved this by using thread in the context
 of a Web forum, where it has a very different meaning from
 what it means in a spiritual context.)





[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul @ Liberty Summit, Orlando, Florida August 19, 2011

2011-08-21 Thread obbajeeba


http://c-spanvideo.org/program/PaulRemar#



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'As the Republicans 'Crucify' Obama'...

2011-08-21 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/21/2011 10:41 AM, Robert wrote:
  'They' crucify the rest of us as well...!
 
  Standing in the way of anything he tries to do, sabotaging his every
move...
 
  Only the light of pure consciousness can see us through...
 
  J.G.D.

Climb every mountain...

 I'm sorry, I've long given up on the savior in chief. He behaves
like
 he is a crony of the Republicans. And we know he is a crony of Wall
 Street. Time to turn off the Santy Claus and Easter Bunny machine and
 deal with reality.

 Power to the people!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


Bhairitu:
 Sutra means thread and has alway meant that.  
 The word suture comes from it.  People from 
 other paths reading this thread would be 
 laughing their asses off at TMers and former 
 TMers...

Not to mention the 'Tantra' teachers on FFL who 
think they're the only person on the planet to 
have know how to sew or weave a basket. 

ROTFLOL!!!

1. sUtra n. (accord. to g. %{ardhacA7di} also m.; 
fr. %{siv}, 'to sew'... 

http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/cgi-bin/tamil/recherche/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


cardemaister:
 So, a translation might start for instance like this:
 
 Knowers of suutras (suutra-vidah) know (viduH) a suutra
 (to be, or stuff) alpaakSaram...

Knowers of suutras, know that jus 2 b reg 2 x y med, ne 
alt sans 3 guns, seps abs, n' i's wide-shut; nodoz, no 
brr-down, u enjoy THIS  THAT.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value.

 CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC
experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not
having UC.

But Whos on first?  Or is he?




 L.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@
wrote:
   
I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
state it makes no sense at all.
  
   FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
   it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
   person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
   self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
 
  * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim
meant -- when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self),
it appears that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing.
But from the other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do
nothing, and the I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect
that no-one actually does anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just
gets done (or appears to get done) anyhow.
 
  Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but
watching it unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as
separate entities, so they aren't really doing anything, either, though
when we are identified with one of the characters, we sure think we are
doing something!
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why Obama will be Pres. again'...(Power Temptation)

2011-08-21 Thread do.rflex


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:

 From my understanding of 'Why' Barack Obama is and will be President again:
 Is Because:
 He is a 'moderatiing force' in the time of 'great turmoil' , that we are 
 experiencing on all levels with the coming of the year: 2012, and the end of 
 the Mayan Calender, signifying the end of an old time, and the beginning of a 
 'New Time'...
 In the new time, time will begin to be experienced as proposed in 'Einstein's 
 Theory of Relativity'...that of being 'Flexible'...
 The inner field of the light of consciousness will be more readily available 
 to the 'World dPopulation'...
 This means as 'Time' is experienced in it's relativity, more and more people 
 will be encouraged to 'Follow their Heart' , or 'Follow their Bliss' as we 
 see more of  the younger generation, fulfilling their hearts and souls this 
 way, around the world, and further, the younger ones are establishing, in 
 their hearts: Less prejudice in general to people different from them, but 
 rather a curiousity about people from different cultures, backrounds and 
 eithnic  values...
 As more and more of the 'Old Way' is being exhibited for it's 'Egoic 
 Prejudiced Values'...only striving to preserve the 'Hoarded Wealth of the 
 Rich'...
 We begin to see the 'Temptation of Power' and how it is used to as it were,
 Keep societies stuck, while only the most wealthy, proper...
 This way is coming to an end soon, and because President Obama is the one 
 with the most love for his family and his nation,  and because he is the one 
 who(partly because he grew up in Hawaii), that has the 'Balanced Temperment' 
 and intelligence...will be elected again...
 He has avoided most of the temptations which come with the gaining of 
 'Worldly Power'...
 So, in conclusion, we can see why the Republicans are having so much trouble 
 finding someone to face off with President Obama...
 J.G.D.
  


I just sent a post on Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, who 
appears to be the only sane and really electable GOP presidential candidate. 
But I don't think anyone will beat Obama in 2012.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread whynotnow7
I did the sidhis techniques 2x a day for 13 years (1980-1993). 

My experience of each sutra was that through its vibration when thought, a 
sutra weaves a fabric of the spacetime continuum that favors its result. How 
that meshes with us as individuals determines the successful outcome or 
otherwise, of the sutra. It is a willful tuning of our nervous system to favor 
a result.

A few of the ones I learned 30 years ago work well to this day, without doing 
the practice. The whole experience brought me to the conclusion that my  senses 
and consciousness don't stop with me, but continue threading their way into my 
outer world to the point where it becomes impossible to distinguish what is me 
and what is the other, though I obviously continue to operate normally within 
my expanding environment. 

As a review of the techniques themselves, I never felt they were damaging in 
any way. The only issue I ever had was that they tended to make me feel 
ungrounded at times, spaced out, as I suspect they did many others. However 
they were truth in advertising, in other words, quite powerful, and if you 
followed the guidelines, no problemo. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 08/21/2011 11:25 AM, RoryGoff wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoffrorygoff@  wrote:
   An interesting viewpoint, Lawson; many thanks. I have no idea whether a 
   continuum of values is actually different than multiple discrete ones, 
   but I strongly suspect they are actually the same. It seems to come down 
   to the particle-vs.-wave viewpoints of what is actually a wavicle. By 
   the same token, all the possible points of view are also Only One of Us, 
   not intellectually enumarable perhaps, but still whole-heartedly, 
   self-ticklingly BE-able.
   * * Sorry: not enumarable but enumerable; and so not enumerable but 
   innumerable; That alone R US!
  
  I guess FFL is becoming Wikipedia where people define terms to fit their 
  needs like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin do.  Sutra means thread 
  and has alway meant that.  The word suture comes from it.   People 
  from other paths reading this thread would be laughing their asses off 
  at TMers and former TMers.
 
 * * Yes, exactly, Bharaitu! And what does a thread literally *do*? 
 
 It fastens two pieces of cloth together, or folds a cloth back upon itself. 
 It stitches together disparate realities into a new unity, or different 
 viewpoints into a single continuum; it tickles Us into remembering Us. And if 
 along the way we laugh our asses off at and with ourselves, so much the 
 better :-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread Vaj

On Aug 21, 2011, at 1:20 PM, sparaig wrote:

 But a sutra is valid on all possible frequencies, to use your analogy. A 
 continuum of values is different than multiple discrete values, though in the 
 real world, continuous merely means so many that they are uncountable for 
 all practical purposes. Even so, enumerating all the possible meanings of a 
 sutra, according to the definition below, would require that you also 
 enumerate all the possible points of view that the sutra could be viewed 
 from, which is still impossible for all practical purposes.


IME sutras, that is samadhic literature, is not infinite in it's individual 
scope, it is limited to the various perspectives available in particular 
lifeforms and unique context it has. So therefore the type of samadhic 
literature we're likely to read or discuss is that intended primarily for the 
human dimension, which is not to say that that there is not some overlap 
between dimensions, there of course is.

Even though the causes of suffering are effectively infinite, revealed 
spiritual literature of this type often limits the number of perspectives to 
the particular type of listeners it's intended for. So the sutric fabric of the 
yoga-sutras is intended from the POV of turiyatita or cosmic consciousness 
whose structure is defined by samkhya cosmological frameworks and it's 
listeners.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-21 Thread emptybill

According to Shankara, citta-vritti nirodha by itself cannot lead to
knowledge of Brahman. Only someone who has received the instructions
(mahâvakya) pointing directly to Atman, as found in the whispered
lineage of the Upanishads, will be able to generate correct knowledge
(samyag-jñana).



Although having received this knowledge, the strong pull of the senses
away from Self-knowledge (atma-samvid) will lead most people astray
because of their prarabdha-karma. To counter this Shankara upholds the
practice of contemplation of the Self, which he calls steady (samtati)
recollection (smriti) of Self-knowledge (âtma-vijñana).



According to Shankara, citta-vritti-nirodha is the result of
recollection/comtemplation of brahma-âtman (smriti-samtati) rather
than acting as a means to realize it. Practiced b itself,
citta-vritti-nirodha only purifies the person practicing it.
……….



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams
willytex@... wrote:



   Of course, all the teachers of the Upanishads were
   transcendentalists. Why do you think they all made
   reference to Brahman, the Transcendental Person?
  
 emptybill:
  Transcendentalism is based upon Kant and German
  Idealism.
 
 Indian idealism came long before German Idealism. All
 Indian philosophical systems that postulate Brahman,
 are considered to be idealistic and in the Upanishad
 system.

 The Brahman in Indian scriptures refers to the Absolute
 that is beyond, or transcendental to, the senses of
 the material world. The Brahman or the Purusha is the
 Transcendental Person.

  The Vedas and Upanishads are based upon Shruti -
  the self-revealing utterance of Vac.
 
 Yoga is the cessation of the mental turnings of the
 mind:

 yoga citta vritti nirodha (Y.S. I.1.2).

 When thought ceases, the Transcendental Absolute
 stands by itself, refers to Itself, as a witness to
 the world:

 tada drastuh svarupe vasthanam (Y.S. I.1.3).

 Translation by Swami Venkatesananda Saraswati:
 http://www.swamivenkatesananda.com/

 Read more:

 Subject: Raja Yoga
 From: Willytex
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental,
 alt.yoga, alt.meditation
 Date: September 18, 2003
 http://tinyurl.com/2vpf58n




[FairfieldLife] Iowa State Fair

2011-08-21 Thread raunchydog
The Iowa State Fair has pushed the limit on what you can fry on a stick. This 
year, Fried Butter on a Stick made its debut. Not worth the calories that 
would go directly to my ass. Huffpo reported this artery clogging delicacy is 
quite yummy. Some things just don't belong on a stick. I had a foot-long brat 
on a BUN. 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/fried-butter-stick-iowa-state-fair_n_924768.html

I captured a flavor of the Iowa State Fair for FFLife on my Flip video camera 
yesterday. The software in right in the camera...very cool.  

1:58 Movie: Flip has a magic movie function. 
http://tinyurl.com/3r3gl2l

3:25 Movie: Flip video mixed with still shots.
http://tinyurl.com/3vf2em6

Photos: Check out the famous butter cow. 
http://tinyurl.com/3pdy7dv

Here's the list of foods on-a-stick as of Fair 2011

Fried Butter on-a-stick
Peanut Butter  Jelly on-a-stick
Chocolate Covered Fried Ice Cream on-a-stick
Cheesecake on-a-stick
Fair Square
Chocolate-covered tiramisu on-a-stick
Turtle mousse bar on-a-stick
Twinkie log on-a-stick (frozen Twinkie dipped in white chocolate and rolled 
in cashews)
Octodog (hotdog in the shape of an octopus)
Chocolate-dipped cake on-a-stick
Buffalo chicken on-a-stick
Chocolate-covered peanut butter round on-a-stick
Chocolate-covered key lime round on-a-stick
Carmellows on-a-stick
Pretzel rods dipped in caramel or chocolate
Pickle on-a-stick
Pork chop on-a-stick
Corn dog
Cheese on-a-stick
Cajun chicken on-a-stick
Sesame chicken on-a-stick
Carmel apple
German sausage on-a-stick
Teriyaki beef on-a-stick
Corn on the cob on-a-stick
Cotton candy
Veggie dog on-a-stick
Turkey drumstick
Nutty bar
Fried pickle on-a-stick
Hot bologna on-a-stick
Shrimp on-a-stick
Chicken on-a-stick
Monkey Tails (chocolate covered banana on-a-stick)
Honey on-a-stick
Ice cream Wonder Bar
Deep fried Snickers bar on-a-stick
Deep fried Milky Way bar on-a-stick
Deep fried Twinkie on-a-stick
Lamb on-a-stick
Meatballs on-a-stick
Deep fried hoho on-a-stick
Funtastick Pork on-a-stick
Dutch letters on-a-stick
Deep fried hot dog on-a-stick
Chocolate covered cheesecake on-a-stick
Pineapple on-a-stick (Fresh pineapple dipped in funnel cake batter and deep 
fried)
Chicken lips on-a-stick (breaded chicken breast smothered with hot sauce, 
served with blue cheese dressing).
Cornbrat on-a-stick (bratwurst dipped in corndog batter)
Chocolate covered Ice cream cookie sandwich on-a-stick
Rock candy on-a-stick
Salad on-a-stick
Hard-boiled egg on-a-stick





[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation - for Buck

2011-08-21 Thread emptybill

This explanation conflates the difference between mind/consciousness
(citta) and awareness (cit) or, if you prefer, between drishti-matra and
buddhi.


Awareness is prior to consciousness whether that consciousness is pure
or dominated by vritti-s. An act of noticing is an activity of
mind/consciousness, while awareness is definitional of what we are.
Awareness is independent of the inward or outward stroke of the
mind/consciousness and of buddhi-sattva.
……


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 As everyone knows, this is counter to TM instruction.

 In other words, by the time you notice you are in pure consciousness
during TM, you are actually out of it. Deciding to remain in this quiet
state is impossible because the quiet state simply cannot be noticed
while you are in it, so all you are doing is detracting from the
*process* that is TM. Pure consciousness is totally unimportant during
TM. It is the process of the inward stroke of meditation (decreasing
mental activity) followed by the outer stroke that matters. Some period
of inactivity at the transition between inward and outward is totally
unimportant because in order to note that you are in that state of
inactivity requires that the mind be active enough to note something in
the first place.



 L



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
 
 
  Besides the difference in mantra-s, there is a difference in how the
two
  meditations are done.
 
  In Sahaj practice, the understanding is that the mantra doesn't go
  anywhere so we don't actually lose the mantra. Because we
  were introduced to the mantra at initiation, it is naturally
recognized
  and recollected when we sit down to meditate. However, if during
  meditation our attention has been absorbed in thoughts for a while
  without realizing it, then we just return to the mantra by
recognizing
  it again. If we find our attention aware of thoughts occurring
within
  the mind, that in itself, does not constitute a reason or a need to
  reintroduce the mantra. Just to rest in silent awareness, although
there
  is no activity or object reference, is in itself meditation
  because awareness is fundamental while the mind is not.
 
  Or as SSRS has said, although you cannot know awareness,
  because it is not an object, you don't need to do so because you are
  that very awareness itself prior to mind and to the mind's
  experiences, whether objective or subjective.
 
  ��������������������..
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
The Power of Mantra
 
 
Contrary to public misinformation, techniques like
Transcendental
  Meditation or Sahaj Samadhi are not based on repetition. They
utilize
  a much subtler science.
   
  
  Om, so are Transcendental Meditation and Sahaj Samadhi effectively
the
  same? The similar practice? Just wondering. Anyone learned both?
Anyone
  here taught both? -B
  
  
  
  
  
vibrations of consciousness. Mantra carries the mind to the
silence
  that
was there before God said, Let there be light.
   
In Sanskrit, mantra means vehicle for the mind: manas - mind,
tra -
vehicle. Tra is the root of our English suffix, tron. Electrons
  carry
electricity. Positrons carry positivity. Mantras carry mind to
its
  source.
   
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value.
 
  CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC
 experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not
 having UC.
 
 But Whos on first?  Or is he?

* * An interesting point. I do not recall any descriptions by MMY that Cosmic 
Consciousness involved no small self, only an addition of a Witness to the 
small self. As far as I can see, the small self disappears only in Brahman, 
quite a different Awakening than that of C.C.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Iowa State Fair

2011-08-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/21/2011 02:37 PM, raunchydog wrote:
 The Iowa State Fair has pushed the limit on what you can fry on a stick. This 
 year, Fried Butter on a Stick made its debut. Not worth the calories that 
 would go directly to my ass. Huffpo reported this artery clogging delicacy is 
 quite yummy. Some things just don't belong on a stick. I had a foot-long brat 
 on a BUN. 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/fried-butter-stick-iowa-state-fair_n_924768.html

 I captured a flavor of the Iowa State Fair for FFLife on my Flip video camera 
 yesterday. The software in right in the camera...very cool.

 1:58 Movie: Flip has a magic movie function.
 http://tinyurl.com/3r3gl2l

 3:25 Movie: Flip video mixed with still shots.
 http://tinyurl.com/3vf2em6

 Photos: Check out the famous butter cow.
 http://tinyurl.com/3pdy7dv

 Here's the list of foods on-a-stick as of Fair 2011

  Fried Butter on-a-stick
  Peanut Butter  Jelly on-a-stick
  Chocolate Covered Fried Ice Cream on-a-stick
  Cheesecake on-a-stick
  Fair Square
  Chocolate-covered tiramisu on-a-stick
  Turtle mousse bar on-a-stick
  Twinkie log on-a-stick (frozen Twinkie dipped in white chocolate and 
 rolled in cashews)
  Octodog (hotdog in the shape of an octopus)
  Chocolate-dipped cake on-a-stick
  Buffalo chicken on-a-stick
  Chocolate-covered peanut butter round on-a-stick
  Chocolate-covered key lime round on-a-stick
  Carmellows on-a-stick
  Pretzel rods dipped in caramel or chocolate
  Pickle on-a-stick
  Pork chop on-a-stick
  Corn dog
  Cheese on-a-stick
  Cajun chicken on-a-stick
  Sesame chicken on-a-stick
  Carmel apple
  German sausage on-a-stick
  Teriyaki beef on-a-stick
  Corn on the cob on-a-stick
  Cotton candy
  Veggie dog on-a-stick
  Turkey drumstick
  Nutty bar
  Fried pickle on-a-stick
  Hot bologna on-a-stick
  Shrimp on-a-stick
  Chicken on-a-stick
  Monkey Tails (chocolate covered banana on-a-stick)
  Honey on-a-stick
  Ice cream Wonder Bar
  Deep fried Snickers bar on-a-stick
  Deep fried Milky Way bar on-a-stick
  Deep fried Twinkie on-a-stick
  Lamb on-a-stick
  Meatballs on-a-stick
  Deep fried hoho on-a-stick
  Funtastick Pork on-a-stick
  Dutch letters on-a-stick
  Deep fried hot dog on-a-stick
  Chocolate covered cheesecake on-a-stick
  Pineapple on-a-stick (Fresh pineapple dipped in funnel cake batter and 
 deep fried)
  Chicken lips on-a-stick (breaded chicken breast smothered with hot 
 sauce, served with blue cheese dressing).
  Cornbrat on-a-stick (bratwurst dipped in corndog batter)
  Chocolate covered Ice cream cookie sandwich on-a-stick
  Rock candy on-a-stick
  Salad on-a-stick
  Hard-boiled egg on-a-stick

Nice work!  Guess how much my first HD camera which did only 720p cost 
me back in 2003?  $3500 (they threw in a JVC HD VCR).  Now you can get 
them for $100 or less and they take better video.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread seventhray1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
  
   Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value.
  
   CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind
of UC
  experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not
  having UC.
 
  But Whos on first? Or is he?

 * * An interesting point. I do not recall any descriptions by MMY that
Cosmic Consciousness involved no small self, only an addition of a
Witness to the small self. As far as I can see, the small self
disappears only in Brahman, quite a different Awakening than that of
C.C.

Okay, I'll give you that.  But then, Whats on second?


[FairfieldLife] The experience of Super Radiance

2011-08-21 Thread Tom Pall
For those who aren't sidhas you can't appreciate just what the Maharishi
Effect is like.   This video will give you some cues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXVHITd1N4


[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa State Fair

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff
* * Beautiful glimpses of the Fair; many thanks, RD! Loved all your foods on a 
stick. Despite the picture of a salad-on-a-stick I saw in the corner of the 
second floor of the butter-cow pavilion, I didn't really see how that could 
work. Seemed that unless you performed a sword-swallowing trick, most of the 
lettuce would end up in your lap or on the floor. 

Speaking of calories-direct-to-ass, did you ever try the deep-fried candy bar? 
I was briefly tempted, but decided not My wife sampled the lamb-burger and 
the ostrich jerky (which latter I nibbled a corner of -- tasted a lot like the 
Slim Jims of my boyhood), and we both did enjoy the lemonade with Iowa honey! A 
much softer and more well-rounded flavor than the usual sugar-jiggered lemonade.

Man, that place is *huge* -- after traipsing across the entire grounds -- 
sometimes with help of a tractor-drawn caravan -- we wanted to close by 
checking out the buckskinners' camp, but reluctantly decided to give it a pass, 
as it was on the far end of the grounds from where our bus would take us back 
to our car. so we opted for Trader Joe's instead. Wow. Talk about food! Well 
worth the extra drive to West Des Moines Next time, I will probably try the 
chevre mixed with wild blueberries and vanilla that I considered there :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 The Iowa State Fair has pushed the limit on what you can fry on a stick. This 
 year, Fried Butter on a Stick made its debut. Not worth the calories that 
 would go directly to my ass. Huffpo reported this artery clogging delicacy is 
 quite yummy. Some things just don't belong on a stick. I had a foot-long brat 
 on a BUN. 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/fried-butter-stick-iowa-state-fair_n_924768.html
 
 I captured a flavor of the Iowa State Fair for FFLife on my Flip video camera 
 yesterday. The software in right in the camera...very cool.  
 
 1:58 Movie: Flip has a magic movie function. 
 http://tinyurl.com/3r3gl2l
 
 3:25 Movie: Flip video mixed with still shots.
 http://tinyurl.com/3vf2em6
 
 Photos: Check out the famous butter cow. 
 http://tinyurl.com/3pdy7dv
 
 Here's the list of foods on-a-stick as of Fair 2011
 
 Fried Butter on-a-stick
 Peanut Butter  Jelly on-a-stick
 Chocolate Covered Fried Ice Cream on-a-stick
 Cheesecake on-a-stick
 Fair Square
 Chocolate-covered tiramisu on-a-stick
 Turtle mousse bar on-a-stick
 Twinkie log on-a-stick (frozen Twinkie dipped in white chocolate and 
 rolled in cashews)
 Octodog (hotdog in the shape of an octopus)
 Chocolate-dipped cake on-a-stick
 Buffalo chicken on-a-stick
 Chocolate-covered peanut butter round on-a-stick
 Chocolate-covered key lime round on-a-stick
 Carmellows on-a-stick
 Pretzel rods dipped in caramel or chocolate
 Pickle on-a-stick
 Pork chop on-a-stick
 Corn dog
 Cheese on-a-stick
 Cajun chicken on-a-stick
 Sesame chicken on-a-stick
 Carmel apple
 German sausage on-a-stick
 Teriyaki beef on-a-stick
 Corn on the cob on-a-stick
 Cotton candy
 Veggie dog on-a-stick
 Turkey drumstick
 Nutty bar
 Fried pickle on-a-stick
 Hot bologna on-a-stick
 Shrimp on-a-stick
 Chicken on-a-stick
 Monkey Tails (chocolate covered banana on-a-stick)
 Honey on-a-stick
 Ice cream Wonder Bar
 Deep fried Snickers bar on-a-stick
 Deep fried Milky Way bar on-a-stick
 Deep fried Twinkie on-a-stick
 Lamb on-a-stick
 Meatballs on-a-stick
 Deep fried hoho on-a-stick
 Funtastick Pork on-a-stick
 Dutch letters on-a-stick
 Deep fried hot dog on-a-stick
 Chocolate covered cheesecake on-a-stick
 Pineapple on-a-stick (Fresh pineapple dipped in funnel cake batter and 
 deep fried)
 Chicken lips on-a-stick (breaded chicken breast smothered with hot sauce, 
 served with blue cheese dressing).
 Cornbrat on-a-stick (bratwurst dipped in corndog batter)
 Chocolate covered Ice cream cookie sandwich on-a-stick
 Rock candy on-a-stick
 Salad on-a-stick
 Hard-boiled egg on-a-stick





[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation - for Buck

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff
* * Nicely put. Our BEing is a priori, ever-present, unconditioned and 
unconditional...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 
 This explanation conflates the difference between mind/consciousness
 (citta) and awareness (cit) or, if you prefer, between drishti-matra and
 buddhi.
 
 
 Awareness is prior to consciousness whether that consciousness is pure
 or dominated by vritti-s. An act of noticing is an activity of
 mind/consciousness, while awareness is definitional of what we are.
 Awareness is independent of the inward or outward stroke of the
 mind/consciousness and of buddhi-sattva.
 ……
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  As everyone knows, this is counter to TM instruction.
 
  In other words, by the time you notice you are in pure consciousness
 during TM, you are actually out of it. Deciding to remain in this quiet
 state is impossible because the quiet state simply cannot be noticed
 while you are in it, so all you are doing is detracting from the
 *process* that is TM. Pure consciousness is totally unimportant during
 TM. It is the process of the inward stroke of meditation (decreasing
 mental activity) followed by the outer stroke that matters. Some period
 of inactivity at the transition between inward and outward is totally
 unimportant because in order to note that you are in that state of
 inactivity requires that the mind be active enough to note something in
 the first place.
 
 
 
  L
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
  
  
   Besides the difference in mantra-s, there is a difference in how the
 two
   meditations are done.
  
   In Sahaj practice, the understanding is that the mantra doesn't go
   anywhere so we don't actually lose the mantra. Because we
   were introduced to the mantra at initiation, it is naturally
 recognized
   and recollected when we sit down to meditate. However, if during
   meditation our attention has been absorbed in thoughts for a while
   without realizing it, then we just return to the mantra by
 recognizing
   it again. If we find our attention aware of thoughts occurring
 within
   the mind, that in itself, does not constitute a reason or a need to
   reintroduce the mantra. Just to rest in silent awareness, although
 there
   is no activity or object reference, is in itself meditation
   because awareness is fundamental while the mind is not.
  
   Or as SSRS has said, although you cannot know awareness,
   because it is not an object, you don't need to do so because you are
   that very awareness itself prior to mind and to the mind's
   experiences, whether objective or subjective.
  
   ��������������������..
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
 The Power of Mantra
  
  
 Contrary to public misinformation, techniques like
 Transcendental
   Meditation or Sahaj Samadhi are not based on repetition. They
 utilize
   a much subtler science.

   
   Om, so are Transcendental Meditation and Sahaj Samadhi effectively
 the
   same? The similar practice? Just wondering. Anyone learned both?
 Anyone
   here taught both? -B
   
   
   
   
   
 vibrations of consciousness. Mantra carries the mind to the
 silence
   that
 was there before God said, Let there be light.

 In Sanskrit, mantra means vehicle for the mind: manas - mind,
 tra -
 vehicle. Tra is the root of our English suffix, tron. Electrons
   carry
 electricity. Positrons carry positivity. Mantras carry mind to
 its
   source.

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
   
Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value.
   
CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind
 of UC
   experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not
   having UC.
  
   But Whos on first? Or is he?
 
  * * An interesting point. I do not recall any descriptions by MMY that
 Cosmic Consciousness involved no small self, only an addition of a
 Witness to the small self. As far as I can see, the small self
 disappears only in Brahman, quite a different Awakening than that of
 C.C.
 
 Okay, I'll give you that.  But then, Whats on second?

* * That's right.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation - for Buck

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig
You said:
If we *find our attention aware of thoughts* occurring within
  the mind, that in itself, does not constitute a reason or a need to
  reintroduce the mantra. 

You're just playing Sanskrit semantic games to avoid admitting that I am 
correct.

REgardless, the proof is in the pudding. After 25 years of people practice the 
techniques that Sri Sri Ravi Shankar teaches, where is the research on people 
showing pure consciousness?


L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 
 This explanation conflates the difference between mind/consciousness
 (citta) and awareness (cit) or, if you prefer, between drishti-matra and
 buddhi.
 
 
 Awareness is prior to consciousness whether that consciousness is pure
 or dominated by vritti-s. An act of noticing is an activity of
 mind/consciousness, while awareness is definitional of what we are.
 Awareness is independent of the inward or outward stroke of the
 mind/consciousness and of buddhi-sattva.
 ������������������������������
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  As everyone knows, this is counter to TM instruction.
 
  In other words, by the time you notice you are in pure consciousness
 during TM, you are actually out of it. Deciding to remain in this quiet
 state is impossible because the quiet state simply cannot be noticed
 while you are in it, so all you are doing is detracting from the
 *process* that is TM. Pure consciousness is totally unimportant during
 TM. It is the process of the inward stroke of meditation (decreasing
 mental activity) followed by the outer stroke that matters. Some period
 of inactivity at the transition between inward and outward is totally
 unimportant because in order to note that you are in that state of
 inactivity requires that the mind be active enough to note something in
 the first place.
 
 
 
  L
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
  
  
   Besides the difference in mantra-s, there is a difference in how the
 two
   meditations are done.
  
   In Sahaj practice, the understanding is that the mantra doesn't go
   anywhere so we don't actually lose the mantra. Because we
   were introduced to the mantra at initiation, it is naturally
 recognized
   and recollected when we sit down to meditate. However, if during
   meditation our attention has been absorbed in thoughts for a while
   without realizing it, then we just return to the mantra by
 recognizing
   it again. If we find our attention aware of thoughts occurring
 within
   the mind, that in itself, does not constitute a reason or a need to
   reintroduce the mantra. Just to rest in silent awareness, although
 there
   is no activity or object reference, is in itself meditation
   because awareness is fundamental while the mind is not.
  
   Or as SSRS has said, although you cannot know awareness,
   because it is not an object, you don't need to do so because you are
   that very awareness itself prior to mind and to the mind's
   experiences, whether objective or subjective.
  
   ��������������������..
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
 The Power of Mantra
  
  
 Contrary to public misinformation, techniques like
 Transcendental
   Meditation or Sahaj Samadhi are not based on repetition. They
 utilize
   a much subtler science.

   
   Om, so are Transcendental Meditation and Sahaj Samadhi effectively
 the
   same? The similar practice? Just wondering. Anyone learned both?
 Anyone
   here taught both? -B
   
   
   
   
   
 vibrations of consciousness. Mantra carries the mind to the
 silence
   that
 was there before God said, Let there be light.

 In Sanskrit, mantra means vehicle for the mind: manas - mind,
 tra -
 vehicle. Tra is the root of our English suffix, tron. Electrons
   carry
 electricity. Positrons carry positivity. Mantras carry mind to
 its
   source.

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
  
   Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value.
  
   CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC
  experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not
  having UC.
  
  But Whos on first?  Or is he?
 
 * * An interesting point. I do not recall any descriptions by MMY that Cosmic 
 Consciousness involved no small self, only an addition of a Witness to the 
 small self. As far as I can see, the small self disappears only in Brahman, 
 quite a different Awakening than that of C.C.


Small self surrounded by Big Self means what, according to you, in terms of 
CC, GC, UC, etc?

L




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/21/2011 01:32 PM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:

 Bhairitu:
 Sutra means thread and has alway meant that.
 The word suture comes from it.  People from
 other paths reading this thread would be
 laughing their asses off at TMers and former
 TMers...

 Not to mention the 'Tantra' teachers on FFL who
 think they're the only person on the planet to
 have know how to sew or weave a basket.


I didn't say that did I.  Of yoga enthusiasts posting on the web, in 
general FFLer's show the least knowledge of the field.  It speaks 
volumes on how limited the teaching was (but then read what I say below).
 ROTFLOL!!!

 1. sUtra n. (accord. to g. %{ardhacA7di} also m.;
 fr. %{siv}, 'to sew'...

 http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/cgi-bin/tamil/recherche/

You'll find sutra defined as thread about everywhere else on the 
web.  You found a Tamil lexicon. In fact I believe that MMY may have 
defined it in his version of the Gita.  A friend once said about folks 
on FFL is they don't even seem to know the stuff that Maharishi talked 
about in the Gita!

Saraswati worship can give rise to intellectual masturbation, enough so 
that yogis reading FFL can often skip their evening eye rolling asanas. :-D



[FairfieldLife] Re: The experience of Super Radiance

2011-08-21 Thread obbajeeba
Hahahahaha!  I appreciate this! Hahahahaha!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 For those who aren't sidhas you can't appreciate just what the Maharishi
 Effect is like.   This video will give you some cues.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXVHITd1N4





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The experience of Super Radiance

2011-08-21 Thread Tom Pall
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:14 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hahahahaha!  I appreciate this! Hahahahaha!

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
 
  For those who aren't sidhas you can't appreciate just what the Maharishi
  Effect is like.   This video will give you some cues.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXVHITd1N4
 


Well then why don't you try my sutra sometime?  We were told to d/c it on
the 7,000 course but I do practice it every now and then.

What you do is perform samyama on Beetlejuice.I've managed to have our
dearly departed guru appeared in front of me a few times.   Performing this
sutra.


[FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread azgrey


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 

 Yesterday I was a little clever.  The daughter and I stopped in for a
 quick lunch at Ruby Tuesdays.  They've got a great crab cake appetizer
 and a great salad bar.  Salad bar is $2.99 with anything ordered,
 otherwise it's $8.99.  We ordered one crab cake and one salad bar, and
 that server was watching me like a hawk making sure I wasn't going to
 partake of that salad bar.  (It was for my daughter).  I asked for the
 bill early, gave him a generous tip (well over 20%), and then got an
 extra serving or two at the salad bar which I ate without guilt.
 

So you are a thief who feels good about himself by
making the server an accomplice and teaching your 
daughter its ok to be a sneak-thief. Nice, really really
nice Lurk.  








[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 * * Hmm. Depends on how you define small self surrounded by Big Self, I 
 suppose. If one identifies with a small self being Witnessed by a separate 
 big Self, I would probably call that CC. When the small self -- and even the 
 separate Witness itself, and indeed all sense of duality or separation or 
 spacetime distinction or progress whatsoever -- melts into the ever-present 
 THAT, and it is Self-evident that THAT Alone ever IS, was, and shall BE, THAT 
 Awakening would probably be called Brahman 

* * But again, this is not a static state, as small-selves or I-particles 
constantly emerge from THAT-US and get our attention with specific 
need/desire-vectors, and remain in orbit until we give them what they need, 
whereupon they again surrender into Us. So this small self-Big Self tension and 
resolution continues over and over, playing out the progress from ignorance 
through C.C., G.C., and U.C. for each small self, again and again, even in 
so-called Brahman.



Re: [FairfieldLife] 'As the Republicans 'Crucify' Obama'... [1 Attachment]

2011-08-21 Thread Tom Pall
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Robert babajii...@yahoo.com wrote:



 'They' crucify the rest of us as well...!

 Standing in the way of anything he tries to do, sabotaging his every
 move...

 Only the light of pure consciousness can see us through...

 J.G.D.



 And what did the Repubs try to do to JDR, one of the true Democrats of our
time?


[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation - for Buck

2011-08-21 Thread Buck
Dear Empty, that's a substantial difference.  I wish now I would have known the 
difference years ago.  One of the lady saints coming through  some years ago 
pointed that out too.  The difference was like the light came on.  Thanks for 
the clarification between TM process and also may be sitting with the silence.

-Buck  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 
 Besides the difference in mantra-s, there is a difference in how the two
 meditations are done.
 
 In Sahaj practice, the understanding is that the mantra doesn't go
 anywhere so we don't actually lose the mantra. Because we
 were introduced to the mantra at initiation, it is naturally recognized
 and recollected when we sit down to meditate. However, if during
 meditation our attention has been absorbed in thoughts for a while
 without realizing it, then we just return to the mantra by recognizing
 it again. If we find our attention aware of thoughts occurring within
 the mind, that in itself, does not constitute a reason or a need to
 reintroduce the mantra. Just to rest in silent awareness, although there
 is no activity or object reference, is in itself meditation
 because awareness is fundamental while the mind is not.
 
 Or as SSRS has said, although you cannot know awareness,
 because it is not an object, you don't need to do so because you are
 that very awareness itself prior to mind and to the mind's
 experiences, whether objective or subjective.
 
 ..
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
   The Power of Mantra
 
 
   Contrary to public misinformation, techniques like Transcendental
 Meditation or Sahaj Samadhi are not based on repetition. They utilize
 a much subtler science.
  
 
 Om, so are Transcendental Meditation and Sahaj Samadhi effectively the
 same? The similar practice? Just wondering. Anyone learned both? Anyone
 here taught both? -B
 
 
 
 
 
   vibrations of consciousness. Mantra carries the mind to the silence
 that
   was there before God said, Let there be light.
  
   In Sanskrit, mantra means vehicle for the mind: manas - mind, tra -
   vehicle. Tra is the root of our English suffix, tron. Electrons
 carry
   electricity. Positrons carry positivity. Mantras carry mind to its
 source.
  
 





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[FairfieldLife] Gaddafi takes refuge in the Golden Dome in Fairfield, IA

2011-08-21 Thread Tom Pall
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2089702,00.html?hpt=hp_t1

In exchange for working with David Lynch's group, Qaddafi is granted refuge
in the Golden Dome.  He says he hates the vegetarian food.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation - for Buck

2011-08-21 Thread Robert
There is an awareness that becomes established, and then, contemplation of 
awareness itself, and it's infinite value, becomes the meditation...mantra and 
sutra become more or less redundant...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Dear Empty, that's a substantial difference.  I wish now I would have known 
 the difference years ago.  One of the lady saints coming through  some years 
 ago pointed that out too.  The difference was like the light came on.  Thanks 
 for the clarification between TM process and also may be sitting with the 
 silence.
 
 -Buck  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
 
  
  Besides the difference in mantra-s, there is a difference in how the two
  meditations are done.
  
  In Sahaj practice, the understanding is that the mantra doesn't go
  anywhere so we don't actually lose the mantra. Because we
  were introduced to the mantra at initiation, it is naturally recognized
  and recollected when we sit down to meditate. However, if during
  meditation our attention has been absorbed in thoughts for a while
  without realizing it, then we just return to the mantra by recognizing
  it again. If we find our attention aware of thoughts occurring within
  the mind, that in itself, does not constitute a reason or a need to
  reintroduce the mantra. Just to rest in silent awareness, although there
  is no activity or object reference, is in itself meditation
  because awareness is fundamental while the mind is not.
  
  Or as SSRS has said, although you cannot know awareness,
  because it is not an object, you don't need to do so because you are
  that very awareness itself prior to mind and to the mind's
  experiences, whether objective or subjective.
  
  ..
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
The Power of Mantra
  
  
Contrary to public misinformation, techniques like Transcendental
  Meditation or Sahaj Samadhi are not based on repetition. They utilize
  a much subtler science.
   
  
  Om, so are Transcendental Meditation and Sahaj Samadhi effectively the
  same? The similar practice? Just wondering. Anyone learned both? Anyone
  here taught both? -B
  
  
  
  
  
vibrations of consciousness. Mantra carries the mind to the silence
  that
was there before God said, Let there be light.
   
In Sanskrit, mantra means vehicle for the mind: manas - mind, tra -
vehicle. Tra is the root of our English suffix, tron. Electrons
  carry
electricity. Positrons carry positivity. Mantras carry mind to its
  source.
   
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 21, 2011, at 6:25 PM, azgrey wrote:

 Yesterday I was a little clever.  The daughter and I stopped in for a
 quick lunch at Ruby Tuesdays.  They've got a great crab cake appetizer
 and a great salad bar.  Salad bar is $2.99 with anything ordered,
 otherwise it's $8.99.  We ordered one crab cake and one salad bar, and
 that server was watching me like a hawk making sure I wasn't going to
 partake of that salad bar.  (It was for my daughter).  I asked for the
 bill early, gave him a generous tip (well over 20%), and then got an
 extra serving or two at the salad bar which I ate without guilt.
 
 
 So you are a thief who feels good about himself by
 making the server an accomplice and teaching your 
 daughter its ok to be a sneak-thief. Nice, really really
 nice Lurk.  

That was my thought too~~basically cheating the
restaurant and then feeling OK about it. No guilt?
How nice.  Not to mention that the extra tip money
could have gone towards buying the salad bar honestly.

Sal 







[FairfieldLife] 'Being ~Becoming'...

2011-08-21 Thread Robert
Maharishi talks about this experience being the result of TM and the practice 
of sanyama...
Being become established in the awareness...
Then according to the bubble diagram, you exist at the bottom of the diagram, 
where the awareness is infinite, with no qualities other than awarness...
Then, you begin to pick up activity, from the most subtle level, which is 
'bubbling up' from 'Being'...
When you become aware of 'Being~Becoming' then the impulse has the full support 
of being behind it, and will be 'in tune with all the laws of nature...
Because awarness of this most subtle field, exposes on to the infinite value of 
consciousness, this effects the field of consiousness itself in a universal 
way...
This is the basis of the ME in that when one experiences the univeral field, it 
enlivens the field itself, so everyone is effected by this effect...
There is no other way to effect the whole, other than to touch the essence of 
the whole in the field of pure consiousness...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
[...]
 You'll find sutra defined as thread about everywhere else on the 
 web.  You found a Tamil lexicon. In fact I believe that MMY may have 
 defined it in his version of the Gita.  A friend once said about folks 
 on FFL is they don't even seem to know the stuff that Maharishi talked 
 about in the Gita!

Why do you think that people who practice samyama on sutras from the Yoga 
Sutras, don't know what sutra means?


L



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/21/2011 07:00 PM, sparaig wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 [...]
 You'll find sutra defined as thread about everywhere else on the
 web.  You found a Tamil lexicon. In fact I believe that MMY may have
 defined it in his version of the Gita.  A friend once said about folks
 on FFL is they don't even seem to know the stuff that Maharishi talked
 about in the Gita!
 Why do you think that people who practice samyama on sutras from the Yoga 
 Sutras, don't know what sutra means?


 L

Because they were not given much background, just the techniques.


[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Being ~Becoming'...

2011-08-21 Thread Robert
So, meditation becomes more subtle as one imbibes pure consciousness, into the 
awareness...
Therefore, it becomes just the 'Intention' to meditate, that one percieves the 
mantra coming forth from 'Being Itself'...
Also, we just have the intention to do sutra, and sutra appears coming 
'bubbling forth' from being...

It's like meditation in terms of the 'Bubble Diagram' becomes reversed, in a 
way, and you pick up the mantra, or the sutra, bubbling up from infinite being 
itself, your own expansive consciousness, your own 'Big Self'...

Little by little this expansive awarness, starts to be experienceed in the 
heart area, and then it becomes a vibration of expanding love...and refined 
intuition, and you are not dependent on the mind and intellect so much, but 
more with the feeling and expanded awareness of being not only of the 'mind' 
but more and more of the 'heart'...
You begin to feel a sense in the heart, of the 'I Am'...and then an expanded 
feeling of I-I in the heart...
The feeling of your own infinite self being identical to the 'other's infinite 
self...
This begins the 'Knowledge Atma' or 'Soul'...

And the beginning of 'Unity Consciousness'...

This is what M calls the 'Science of Being'..
Learning how to firstly establish being in the awarenss,
And then, know how remain with being and just 'allow' mantra or sutra top come, 
by intention...
Then, it becomes more a matter of how to know in an infinite way, how to allow 
an intention to manifest itself..
Thus, we learn how to create from 'Inside Out'...
We stay with being and allow the intention to rise with the awareness of being 
behind it...
It this way, thoughts, intellect, feelings, intuitions, perceptions all have 
the value of the 'Infinite Self' of being behind so the seed of any idea will 
be 'pure' in that instead of being an expression of ego, it become as 
expression of 'Universal Being'...

This is the difference between action in terms of ego, and action in terms of 
Being...
Then we feel that we are not acting so much, but that being is pulling together 
things for us, in a magnetic/electrical way, to bring things into 
manifestation...

This is what Jesus meant, when he said: 'ASK and you shal RECIEVE'

J.G.D.

ROBERT

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:

 Maharishi talks about this experience being the result of TM and the practice 
 of sanyama...
 Being become established in the awareness...
 Then according to the bubble diagram, you exist at the bottom of the diagram, 
 where the awareness is infinite, with no qualities other than awarness...
 Then, you begin to pick up activity, from the most subtle level, which is 
 'bubbling up' from 'Being'...
 When you become aware of 'Being~Becoming' then the impulse has the full 
 support of being behind it, and will be 'in tune with all the laws of 
 nature...
 Because awarness of this most subtle field, exposes on to the infinite value 
 of consciousness, this effects the field of consiousness itself in a 
 universal way...
 This is the basis of the ME in that when one experiences the univeral field, 
 it enlivens the field itself, so everyone is effected by this effect...
 There is no other way to effect the whole, other than to touch the essence of 
 the whole in the field of pure consiousness...





[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/21/2011 07:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
  [...]
  You'll find sutra defined as thread about everywhere else on the
  web.  You found a Tamil lexicon. In fact I believe that MMY may have
  defined it in his version of the Gita.  A friend once said about folks
  on FFL is they don't even seem to know the stuff that Maharishi talked
  about in the Gita!
  Why do you think that people who practice samyama on sutras from the Yoga 
  Sutras, don't know what sutra means?
 
 
  L
 
 Because they were not given much background, just the techniques.

Really?

I guess I missed that gap in my training.

L.





[FairfieldLife] 'Taste of Utopia Course'and 'Able Archer 83' (1983-84)

2011-08-21 Thread Robert
This was going on during the 'Taste of Utopia Course' in 1983-84...
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Archer_83

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 08/21/2011 07:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
   [...]
   You'll find sutra defined as thread about everywhere
   else on the web.  You found a Tamil lexicon. In fact I
   believe that MMY may have defined it in his version of
   the Gita.  A friend once said about folks on FFL is
   they don't even seem to know the stuff that Maharishi
   talked about in the Gita!
  
   Why do you think that people who practice samyama on
   sutras from the Yoga Sutras, don't know what sutra
   means?
  
  Because they were not given much background, just the
  techniques.
 
 Really?
 
 I guess I missed that gap in my training.

No gap. We got more than enough background to know what
sutra means--both literally and contextually--and of
course instruction in the techniques used the term
constantly. You couldn't *not* know what it meant. No
idea why Bhairitu is pursuing this; he's just wrong.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread seventhray1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@... wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
 
 

  Yesterday I was a little clever. The daughter and I stopped in for a
  quick lunch at Ruby Tuesdays. They've got a great crab cake
appetizer
  and a great salad bar. Salad bar is $2.99 with anything ordered,
  otherwise it's $8.99. We ordered one crab cake and one salad bar,
and
  that server was watching me like a hawk making sure I wasn't going
to
  partake of that salad bar. (It was for my daughter). I asked for the
  bill early, gave him a generous tip (well over 20%), and then got an
  extra serving or two at the salad bar which I ate without guilt.
 

 So you are a thief who feels good about himself by
 making the server an accomplice and teaching your
 daughter its ok to be a sneak-thief. Nice, really really
 nice Lurk.

Sad, but true.  I guess it was like last night, when at the last minute
we purchased $40.00 tickets for Katy Perry, way up high, and then found
some seats lower down.  I own up to up it.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
[...]
Why do you think that people who practice samyama on
sutras from the Yoga Sutras, don't know what sutra
means?
   
   Because they were not given much background, just the
   techniques.
  
  Really?
  
  I guess I missed that gap in my training.
 
 No gap. We got more than enough background to know what
 sutra means--both literally and contextually--and of
 course instruction in the techniques used the term
 constantly. You couldn't *not* know what it meant. No
 idea why Bhairitu is pursuing this; he's just wrong.


I have a strange sense of humor. 

Old Friend: I thought you were dead!
Me: I must have missed the memo.

L




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@...
wrote:

 On Aug 21, 2011, at 6:25 PM, azgrey wrote:

  Yesterday I was a little clever. The daughter and I stopped in for
a
  quick lunch at Ruby Tuesdays. They've got a great crab cake
appetizer
  and a great salad bar. Salad bar is $2.99 with anything ordered,
  otherwise it's $8.99. We ordered one crab cake and one salad bar,
and
  that server was watching me like a hawk making sure I wasn't going
to
  partake of that salad bar. (It was for my daughter). I asked for
the
  bill early, gave him a generous tip (well over 20%), and then got
an
  extra serving or two at the salad bar which I ate without guilt.
 
 
  So you are a thief who feels good about himself by
  making the server an accomplice and teaching your
  daughter its ok to be a sneak-thief. Nice, really really
  nice Lurk.

 That was my thought too~~basically cheating the
 restaurant and then feeling OK about it. No guilt?
 How nice. Not to mention that the extra tip money
 could have gone towards buying the salad bar honestly.


I will not try to justify my actions.  I was not willing to pay $9.00
for an extra plate of green salad, and a half plate of waldorf salad. 
I'm like that, for better or worse.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of a suutra?

2011-08-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
 [...]
 Why do you think that people who practice samyama on
 sutras from the Yoga Sutras, don't know what sutra
 means?

Because they were not given much background, just the
techniques.
   
   Really?
   
   I guess I missed that gap in my training.
  
  No gap. We got more than enough background to know what
  sutra means--both literally and contextually--and of
  course instruction in the techniques used the term
  constantly. You couldn't *not* know what it meant. No
  idea why Bhairitu is pursuing this; he's just wrong.
 
 I have a strange sense of humor. 
 
 Old Friend: I thought you were dead!
 Me: I must have missed the memo.

Heh. I know what you meant. Was just backing you up.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation - for Buck

2011-08-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
 
 This explanation conflates the difference between
 mind/consciousness (citta) and awareness (cit) or, if you
 prefer, between drishti-matra and buddhi.

Not really. Pure consciousness and pure awareness
are synonymous in TM lingo.

 
 
 Awareness is prior to consciousness whether that consciousness is pure
 or dominated by vritti-s. An act of noticing is an activity of
 mind/consciousness, while awareness is definitional of what we are.
 Awareness is independent of the inward or outward stroke of the
 mind/consciousness and of buddhi-sattva.
 ……
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  As everyone knows, this is counter to TM instruction.
 
  In other words, by the time you notice you are in pure consciousness
 during TM, you are actually out of it. Deciding to remain in this quiet
 state is impossible because the quiet state simply cannot be noticed
 while you are in it, so all you are doing is detracting from the
 *process* that is TM. Pure consciousness is totally unimportant during
 TM. It is the process of the inward stroke of meditation (decreasing
 mental activity) followed by the outer stroke that matters. Some period
 of inactivity at the transition between inward and outward is totally
 unimportant because in order to note that you are in that state of
 inactivity requires that the mind be active enough to note something in
 the first place.
 
 
 
  L
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
  
  
   Besides the difference in mantra-s, there is a difference in how the
 two
   meditations are done.
  
   In Sahaj practice, the understanding is that the mantra doesn't go
   anywhere so we don't actually lose the mantra. Because we
   were introduced to the mantra at initiation, it is naturally
 recognized
   and recollected when we sit down to meditate. However, if during
   meditation our attention has been absorbed in thoughts for a while
   without realizing it, then we just return to the mantra by
 recognizing
   it again. If we find our attention aware of thoughts occurring
 within
   the mind, that in itself, does not constitute a reason or a need to
   reintroduce the mantra. Just to rest in silent awareness, although
 there
   is no activity or object reference, is in itself meditation
   because awareness is fundamental while the mind is not.
  
   Or as SSRS has said, although you cannot know awareness,
   because it is not an object, you don't need to do so because you are
   that very awareness itself prior to mind and to the mind's
   experiences, whether objective or subjective.
  
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   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
 The Power of Mantra
  
  
 Contrary to public misinformation, techniques like
 Transcendental
   Meditation or Sahaj Samadhi are not based on repetition. They
 utilize
   a much subtler science.

   
   Om, so are Transcendental Meditation and Sahaj Samadhi effectively
 the
   same? The similar practice? Just wondering. Anyone learned both?
 Anyone
   here taught both? -B
   
   
   
   
   
 vibrations of consciousness. Mantra carries the mind to the
 silence
   that
 was there before God said, Let there be light.

 In Sanskrit, mantra means vehicle for the mind: manas - mind,
 tra -
 vehicle. Tra is the root of our English suffix, tron. Electrons
   carry
 electricity. Positrons carry positivity. Mantras carry mind to
 its
   source.

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Huntsman 2.0 - Could Huntsman save the day for the GOP?

2011-08-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@... wrote:
 
 Huntsman 2.0   Thomas Lane | Talking Points Memo | August 21, 2011
 Poll after poll shows that
 despite President Obama's sinking numbers
 he still fares well against
 virtually all his major GOP opponents.

Too funny. The do.rk's callout is the *least* significant
point in this article, which is about Huntsman and the
GOP's search for a savior. They're looking for a serious
candidate because Obama's reelection seems like much less
of a sure thing than it did a few months ago.



 -- What do you make of the new hard-hittin',  tough-tweetin' Jon
 Huntsman
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/jon-huntsman-takes-on-the-go\
 p-field-and-president-obamas-leadership.php?ref=fpa ? We ran a piece
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/is-he-even-trying-huntsmans-\
 tweets-almost-seem-designed-to-alienate-the-gop-base.php   on Friday
 asking whether the former Utah governor and Obama-appointed  ambassador
 to China was even trying to win the nomination any more.  Since then
 numerous emails have come in from readers who think he's  making a long
 play for the nomination in 2016.
 That's certainly a reasonable view. However, it's possible there's 
 something else at work here, too.
 
 The Republican establishment is faced with something of a quandary 
 right now. Even just a few months ago, the big money and major 
 power-brokers thought 2012 was going to be unwinnable. It was widely 
 believed that the economy would slowly pick up, and by November of next 
 year President Obama would be able to take the credit for that and walk 
 to re-election.
 
 This likely prompted the more credible GOP candidates, such as New 
 Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, to decide to sit out the coming election and
 wait for 2016. By and large the GOP establishment seemed happy enough 
 to send out the political equivalent of cannon-fodder that would be torn
 apart in the No Man's Land of 2012.
 
 However, the sudden threat of a double-dip recession means this 
 election suddenly looks winnable for the Republicans... But only if they
 have the right candidate. Poll
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/cnn-poll-the-only-goper-who-\
 can-beat-obama-isnot-running.php   after poll
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/obama-surges-to-lead-against\
 -generic-republican.php   shows that despite President Obama's sinking
 numbers he still fares  well against virtually all his major GOP
 opponents.
 
 Presumably this is maddening for the Republican establishment. All of  a
 sudden what they need is a moderate savior who's not tarnished by 
 either extreme flip-flopping or by outrageous statements against, say,
 the  Federal Reserve
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/perry-calls-bernanke-policie\
 s-almost-treasonous.php  and the  scientific process
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/perry-responds-to-question-a\
 bout-creationism-earth-is-pretty-old-video.php . Hence the current
 conservative calls in  some quarters
 http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/big-names-encourage-paul-ryan-run_5\
 90322.html  for Rep. Paul Ryan and the brief  flutter earlier this week
 over rumors of a Christie run
 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/report-chris-christie-explor\
 ing-presidential-run.php .
 
 This must be infuriating for Huntsman; as far as he must be  concerned,
 the party already has its moderate savior and he's already in  the race.
 Indeed, it's him.
 
 But the problem Huntsman faces is exactly that he is already in the 
 race. Unlike Christie or Ryan there are now real polls for Huntsman, and
 they show him failing to catch alight.
 
 If he was entering the fray right now he'd figuratively be wearing a 
 halo and would be suffused by a glowing ethereal light while angels 
 flutter around him, plucking away at harps.
 
 But the nature of the nominating process meant that in order to get a 
 viable campaign on the ground, he had to enter a few months ago, before 
 there was this great GOP thirst for a candidate just like him. Having 
 gotten in at that stage, now the numbers are in as well, and the 
 power-brokers can dismiss him while casting their eyes around for a 
 candidate whose halo has not been tarnished by the grime of poor poll 
 numbers.
 
 That could well be the significance behind this new combative  Huntsman;
 he's indicating to the types of people pining after Christie  or Ryan --
 and lamenting that they don't have much time to set up a  campaign on
 the ground -- that there is already an Independent-friendly  candidate
 right under their noses. These new moves are intended to  reboot his
 campaign into Huntsman 2.0. At the very least it should  guarantee he at
 least gets asked some proper questions in the next GOP  debate. It's a
 tough strategy as it does indeed involve alienating the  Tea
 Party-leaning sections of the base. But right now it seems the only 
 strategy that's left.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing

2011-08-21 Thread Denise Evans
Subjective ethics...the bane of humanity.
Alright, alright!  I admit it..I purchased my children ski lift tickets at the 
child rate (when they were just a tad over the age limit, or maybe it was a 
year or so) by attesting honestly to the fact they were under 12 (or was it 10) 
and maybe I did this once (but only once) at the movie theatre.
Om namah shivaya


--- On Sun, 8/21/11, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Laws Of Nature Of Cafe Writing
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2011, 8:04 PM















 
 



  



  
  
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 On Aug 21, 2011, at 6:25 PM, azgrey wrote:
 
  Yesterday I was a little clever. The daughter and I stopped in for a
  quick lunch at Ruby Tuesdays. They've got a great crab cake appetizer
  and a great salad bar. Salad bar is $2.99 with anything ordered,
  otherwise it's $8.99. We ordered one crab cake and one salad bar, and
  that server was watching me like a hawk making sure I wasn't going to
  partake of that salad bar. (It was for my daughter). I asked for the
  bill early, gave him a generous tip (well over 20%), and then got an
  extra serving or two at the salad bar which I ate without guilt.
  
  
  So you are a thief who feels good about himself by
  making the server an accomplice and teaching your 
  daughter its ok to be a sneak-thief. Nice, really really
  nice Lurk. 
 
 That was my thought too~~basically cheating the
 restaurant and then feeling OK about it. No guilt?
 How nice. Not to mention that the extra tip money
 could have gone towards buying the salad bar honestly.

I will not try to justify my actions.  I was not willing to pay $9.00 for an 
extra plate of green salad, and a half plate of waldorf salad.  I'm like that, 
for better or worse.



 





 



  










[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa State Fair

2011-08-21 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/21/2011 02:37 PM, raunchydog wrote:
  The Iowa State Fair has pushed the limit on what you can fry on a stick. 
  This year, Fried Butter on a Stick made its debut. Not worth the calories 
  that would go directly to my ass. Huffpo reported this artery clogging 
  delicacy is quite yummy. Some things just don't belong on a stick. I had a 
  foot-long brat on a BUN. 
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/fried-butter-stick-iowa-state-fair_n_924768.html
 
  I captured a flavor of the Iowa State Fair for FFLife on my Flip video 
  camera yesterday. The software in right in the camera...very cool.
 
  1:58 Movie: Flip has a magic movie function.
  http://tinyurl.com/3r3gl2l
 
  3:25 Movie: Flip video mixed with still shots.
  http://tinyurl.com/3vf2em6
 
  Photos: Check out the famous butter cow.
  http://tinyurl.com/3pdy7dv
 
  Here's the list of foods on-a-stick as of Fair 2011
 
   Fried Butter on-a-stick
   Peanut Butter  Jelly on-a-stick
   Chocolate Covered Fried Ice Cream on-a-stick
   Cheesecake on-a-stick
   Fair Square
   Chocolate-covered tiramisu on-a-stick
   Turtle mousse bar on-a-stick
   Twinkie log on-a-stick (frozen Twinkie dipped in white chocolate and 
  rolled in cashews)
   Octodog (hotdog in the shape of an octopus)
   Chocolate-dipped cake on-a-stick
   Buffalo chicken on-a-stick
   Chocolate-covered peanut butter round on-a-stick
   Chocolate-covered key lime round on-a-stick
   Carmellows on-a-stick
   Pretzel rods dipped in caramel or chocolate
   Pickle on-a-stick
   Pork chop on-a-stick
   Corn dog
   Cheese on-a-stick
   Cajun chicken on-a-stick
   Sesame chicken on-a-stick
   Carmel apple
   German sausage on-a-stick
   Teriyaki beef on-a-stick
   Corn on the cob on-a-stick
   Cotton candy
   Veggie dog on-a-stick
   Turkey drumstick
   Nutty bar
   Fried pickle on-a-stick
   Hot bologna on-a-stick
   Shrimp on-a-stick
   Chicken on-a-stick
   Monkey Tails (chocolate covered banana on-a-stick)
   Honey on-a-stick
   Ice cream Wonder Bar
   Deep fried Snickers bar on-a-stick
   Deep fried Milky Way bar on-a-stick
   Deep fried Twinkie on-a-stick
   Lamb on-a-stick
   Meatballs on-a-stick
   Deep fried hoho on-a-stick
   Funtastick Pork on-a-stick
   Dutch letters on-a-stick
   Deep fried hot dog on-a-stick
   Chocolate covered cheesecake on-a-stick
   Pineapple on-a-stick (Fresh pineapple dipped in funnel cake batter and 
  deep fried)
   Chicken lips on-a-stick (breaded chicken breast smothered with hot 
  sauce, served with blue cheese dressing).
   Cornbrat on-a-stick (bratwurst dipped in corndog batter)
   Chocolate covered Ice cream cookie sandwich on-a-stick
   Rock candy on-a-stick
   Salad on-a-stick
   Hard-boiled egg on-a-stick
 
 Nice work!  Guess how much my first HD camera which did only 720p cost 
 me back in 2003?  $3500 (they threw in a JVC HD VCR).  Now you can get 
 them for $100 or less and they take better video.


Thanks, Bhairitu. Love the Flip. I'm fiddling with Windows Movie Maker to jazz 
up my slide show. I want to build a better music library for background music. 
I updated iTunes and found out the good stuff is way too expensive and the free 
stuff linked to internet radio, sucks. I downloaded some iTune radio files but 
Windows movie maker didn't recognize it. In a last ditch effort I tried to 
figure out how to download music from YouTube. I Googled download YouTube on 
Mp3 and linked to a guy screaming Developer.  WTF? I'm really a novice at 
this. Any suggestions?