date:20130924

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

oh, okay.  but I've noticed that you seem to be the only one who regularly 
brings this up. maybe it is a matter of upbringing, although I thought mine was 
pretty traditional with regard to manners and such.  (obviously my grammar and 
writing structure has taken a turn for the worse)

  


 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving 
Whole Foods)
  
   
 
I guess it's just my instinct--the way I was brought up--to apologize if I've 
gotten something as badly wrong as Share did (and often does). It's not really 
a matter of "owing" an apology so much as noticing who has that instinct and 
who doesn't.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
You've got to wonder how many people owe Judy an apology on this forum?  And 
how many owe her more than one? Maybe a hundred and a thousand!
 
Judy, are you by chance keeping a tally?
 


 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving 
Whole Foods)
  
  
Oh, what a stinging rebuke...

(Notice no apology from Share for her incredibly dense misunderstanding. Now, 
that's balance for you.)  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
And being balanced in any way isn't your best thing, Judy. 

 


 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:19 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole 
Foods)
  
  
You're wrong again, Share. Thinking isn't your best thing.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
Right, Judy and you just happened to bring it up after I had written HuffPost. 
It had absolutely nothing to do with that. I don't think so!

 


 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)
  
  
It's so very hard to believe the stupidity isn't a put-on.

Hate to burst your Stupid Bubble, Share, but I wasn't suggesting you should put 
a definite article before "HuffPo." You shouldn't. My comment referred to the 
fact that you frequently do leave out the definite article where you SHOULD 
have one, yet you boast of having taken this advanced grammar course.

She isn't going to get it. I know she isn't going to get it. There just aren't 
enough brain cells to accommodate something this complicated. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
Judy wrote & apparently forgot she did: Did this grammar course teach you to 
leave out the definite article? Because I had written: One of my favorite 
courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The 
errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me.
Ok, this exchange happened under the Lucid Dreaming thread. I guess that's why 
Judy thinks it was imaginary!


 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)
  
  
I'd say it was, "Oh, how quickly they imagine things that never happened!"  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
Oh how quickly they forget!
 


 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)
  
  
Which "FFL editor" would that be, Share?  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
Very bad, turq. According to FFL Editor, you're supposed to say THE HuffPost! 
Faite attention, s'il vous plait!

 


 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)
  
  
snip I posted a link to a funny article in
HuffPost about Whole Foods. Only a few people 
here commented (thanks) on how funny it was.  Instead, within six posts Judy 
had adopted 
an argumentative tone in a thread about a 
funny article, and within eleven posts she 
was calling someone a liar. At last count 
there were 137 posts in the thread, *most* 
of them about the tempest in a pisspot she 
created and then refused to let die.  Can you say "shifting context?" Can you 
say 
"Doing it for your own petty, self-serving 
reasons?" I think you can.

RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

[FairfieldLife] A proven solution to the Syrian crisis. -Pravda

2013-09-24 Thread srijau

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

actually my employee saw it over the weekend at a store called "Gringo Jones" 
near where he lives.  Gringo Jones is kind of a funky store.
 


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
  
   
 
Steve, there are certain places in the US where I wouldn't drive with that on 
my car's bumper sticker! Was that sign by any chance in front of a gambling 
casino?!

 


 From: Steve Sundur 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
  
  
sign recently seen: "if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing"
 


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
  
  
emptybill, some view Jesus and Christianity as a step in the evolution of 
religion. And a Pisces step at that. Agape. Unconditional love. Can seem sappy 
when compared to more robust expressions of love. OTOH, with regards to Adam 
and Eve there is a similar concept of "oh happy fall." Meaning that if they had 
not fallen, Christ would not have incarnated. Still not as robust as Satan's 
willingness to be, out of his unconquerable love for God, separate from God FOR 
ALL ETERNITY. Surely he must know that God's embrace encompasses even that!

 


 From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
  
  
C.S. Lewis' quote - blah, blah, I'm so bad ... This is just an iteration of the 
old protestant/roman catholic theology of sin, guilt, redemption ... "o god, o 
god, I know I done wrong but (gulf, gulp, sweat, sweat) now I wanna change." 
Such b.s. This distorted view of human nature/god's nature goes back to the 
sniveling confessions of Augustine of Hippo. However the "pride of the evil 
one" was much more colorfully described by Milton in "Paradise Lost". However, 
"Paradise Lost" is just another iteration of the old theology. More interesting 
is the Sufi revelation ... that Lucifer fell from his exalted angelic station 
because he so ecstatically loved God that he refused God's command to bow down 
to God's own vicar ... the earthy Adam. The reason? He could worship no one 
other than his chosen deity, his Ishta Devatah ... yhvh. The consequence? Out 
of unconquerable love, he subsists upon the last command of this true love  
"be gone!" The Sufi's insist
 this is a much closer to the truth of gnosis than the pathetic ... "Won't you 
come to the weeping Jesus in your wickedly defiled heart? ... You stinking pile 
of filth!"   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
"In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis calls pride “The Great Sin” for it 
“has been the chief cause of misery in every nation and every family 
since the world began… it was through Pride that the devil became the 
devil: Pride leads to every other vice.” We see in Walter’s case that it 
is his pride—an unwillingness to accept normal treatment, a refusal to 
be a charity case even when faced with his own impending death—that 
starts him on the path toward manufacturing meth. Pride is the catalyst 
that leads to all of Walter’s other sins."  Read more:  'The Theology of 
Breaking Bad' http://www.fare-forward.com/the-theology-of-breaking-bad/

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

You've got to wonder how many people owe Judy an apology on this forum?  And 
how many owe her more than one? Maybe a hundred and a thousand!

Judy, are you by chance keeping a tally?

 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving 
Whole Foods)

Oh, what a stinging rebuke...

(Notice no apology from Share for her incredibly dense misunderstanding. Now, 
that's balance for you.)  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
And being balanced in any way isn't your best thing, Judy. 

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:19 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole 
Foods)

You're wrong again, Share. Thinking isn't your best thing.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
Right, Judy and you just happened to bring it up after I had written HuffPost. 
It had absolutely nothing to do with that. I don't think so!

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

It's so very hard to believe the stupidity isn't a put-on.

Hate to burst your Stupid Bubble, Share, but I wasn't suggesting you should put 
a definite article before "HuffPo." You shouldn't. My comment referred to the 
fact that you frequently do leave out the definite article where you SHOULD 
have one, yet you boast of having taken this advanced grammar course.

She isn't going to get it. I know she isn't going to get it. There just aren't 
enough brain cells to accommodate something this complicated. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
Judy wrote & apparently forgot she did: Did this grammar course teach you to 
leave out the definite article? Because I had written: One of my favorite 
courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The 
errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me.
Ok, this exchange happened under the Lucid Dreaming thread. I guess that's why 
Judy thinks it was imaginary!

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

I'd say it was, "Oh, how quickly they imagine things that never happened!"  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
Oh how quickly they forget!

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Which "FFL editor" would that be, Share?  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
Very bad, turq. According to FFL Editor, you're supposed to say THE HuffPost! 
Faite attention, s'il vous plait!

 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

snipI posted a link to a funny article in
HuffPost about Whole Foods. Only a few people here commented (thanks) on how 
funny it was.   Instead, within six posts Judy had adopted  an argumentative 
tone in a thread about a  funny article, and within eleven posts she was 
calling someone a liar. At last count  there were 137 posts in the thread, 
*most*  of them about the tempest in a pisspot she  created and then refused to 
let die.   Can you say "shifting context?" Can you say "Doing it for your own 
petty, self-serving reasons?" I think you can.

[FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Steve, there are certain places in the US where I wouldn't drive with that on 
my car's bumper sticker! Was that sign by any chance in front of a gambling 
casino?!





 From: Steve Sundur 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
 


  
sign recently seen: "if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing"

From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
 
  
emptybill, some view Jesus and Christianity as a step in the evolution of 
religion. And a Pisces step at that. Agape. Unconditional love. Can seem sappy 
when compared to more robust expressions of love. OTOH, with regards to Adam 
and Eve there is a similar concept of "oh happy fall." Meaning that if they had 
not fallen, Christ would not have incarnated. Still not as robust as Satan's 
willingness to be, out of his unconquerable love for God, separate from God FOR 
ALL ETERNITY. Surely he must know that God's embrace encompasses even that!


From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
 
  
C.S. Lewis' quote - blah, blah, I'm so bad ... This is just an iteration of the 
old protestant/roman catholic theology of sin, guilt, redemption ... "o god, o 
god, I know I done wrong but (gulf, gulp, sweat, sweat) now I wanna change." 
Such b.s. This distorted view of human nature/god's nature goes back to the 
sniveling confessions of Augustine of Hippo. However the "pride of the evil 
one" was much more colorfully described by Milton in "Paradise Lost". However, 
"Paradise Lost" is just another iteration of the old theology. More interesting 
is the Sufi revelation ... that Lucifer fell from his exalted angelic station 
because he so ecstatically loved God that he refused God's command to bow down 
to God's own vicar ... the earthy Adam. The reason? He could worship no one 
other than his chosen deity, his Ishta Devatah ... yhvh. The consequence? Out 
of unconquerable love, he subsists upon the last command of this true love  
"be gone!" The Sufi's insist
 this is a much closer to the truth of gnosis than the pathetic ... "Won't you 
come to the weeping Jesus in your wickedly defiled heart? ... You stinking pile 
of filth!"   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
"In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis calls pride “The Great Sin” for it 
“has been the chief cause of misery in every nation and every family 
since the world began… it was through Pride that the devil became the 
devil: Pride leads to every other vice.” We see in Walter’s case that it 
is his pride—an unwillingness to accept normal treatment, a refusal to 
be a charity case even when faced with his own impending death—that 
starts him on the path toward manufacturing meth. Pride is the catalyst 
that leads to all of Walter’s other sins."  Read more:  'The Theology of 
Breaking Bad' http://www.fare-forward.com/the-theology-of-breaking-bad/

[FairfieldLife] Say goodbye to the hippie van

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

sign recently seen: "if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing"
 


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
  
   
 
emptybill, some view Jesus and Christianity as a step in the evolution of 
religion. And a Pisces step at that. Agape. Unconditional love. Can seem sappy 
when compared to more robust expressions of love. OTOH, with regards to Adam 
and Eve there is a similar concept of "oh happy fall." Meaning that if they had 
not fallen, Christ would not have incarnated. Still not as robust as Satan's 
willingness to be, out of his unconquerable love for God, separate from God FOR 
ALL ETERNITY. Surely he must know that God's embrace encompasses even that!

 


 From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
  
  
C.S. Lewis' quote - blah, blah, I'm so bad ...This is just an iteration of the 
old protestant/roman catholictheology of sin, guilt, redemption ... "o god, o 
god, I know I done wrong but (gulf, gulp, sweat, sweat) now I wanna 
change."Such b.s. This distorted view of human nature/god's nature goes back to 
the sniveling confessions of Augustine of Hippo.However the "pride of the evil 
one" was much more colorfully described by Milton in "Paradise Lost". However, 
"Paradise Lost" is just another iteration of the old theology.More interesting 
is the Sufi revelation ... that Lucifer fell from his exalted angelic station 
because he so ecstatically loved God that he refused God's command to bow down 
to God's own vicar ... the earthy Adam. The reason? He could worship no one 
other than his chosen deity, his Ishta Devatah ... yhvh. The consequence? Out 
of unconquerable love, he subsistsupon the last command of this true love  
"be gone!"The Sufi's insist this is
 a much closer to the truth of gnosis than the pathetic ... "Won't you come to 
the weeping Jesusin your wickedly defiled heart? ... You stinking pile of 
filth!"  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
"In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis calls pride “The Great Sin” for it  “has been 
the chief cause of misery in every nation and every family  since the world 
began… it was through Pride that the devil became the  devil: Pride leads to 
every other vice.” We see in Walter’s case that it  is his pride—an 
unwillingness to accept normal treatment, a refusal to  be a charity case even 
when faced with his own impending death—that  starts him on the path toward 
manufacturing meth. Pride is the catalyst  that leads to all of Walter’s other 
sins."  Read more:  'The Theology of Breaking Bad' 
http://www.fare-forward.com/the-theology-of-breaking-bad/

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RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

And being balanced in any way isn't your best thing, Judy. 

 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:19 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole 
Foods)

You're wrong again, Share. Thinking isn't your best thing. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Right, Judy and you just happened to bring it up after I had written HuffPost. 
It had absolutely nothing to do with that. I don't think so!

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

It's so very hard to believe the stupidity isn't a put-on.

Hate to burst your Stupid Bubble, Share, but I wasn't suggesting you should put 
a definite article before "HuffPo." You shouldn't. My comment referred to the 
fact that you frequently do leave out the definite article where you SHOULD 
have one, yet you boast of having taken this advanced grammar course.

She isn't going to get it. I know she isn't going to get it. There just aren't 
enough brain cells to accommodate something this complicated.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Judy wrote & apparently forgot she did: Did this grammar course teach you to 
leave out the definite article? 
Because I had written: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced 
grammar course. The 
errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me.
Ok, this exchange happened under the Lucid Dreaming thread. I guess that's why 
Judy thinks it was imaginary!

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

I'd say it was, "Oh, how quickly they imagine things that never happened!" 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Oh how quickly they forget!

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Which "FFL editor" would that be, Share? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Very bad, turq. According to FFL Editor, you're supposed to say THE HuffPost! 
Faite attention, s'il vous plait!

 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

snip

I posted a link to a funny article in

HuffPost about Whole Foods. Only a few people
here commented (thanks) on how funny it was. 

Instead, within six posts Judy had adopted 
an argumentative tone in a thread about a 
funny article, and within eleven posts she
was calling someone a liar. At last count 
there were 137 posts in the thread, *most* 
of them about the tempest in a pisspot she 
created and then refused to let die. 

Can you say "shifting context?" Can you say
"Doing it for your own petty, self-serving
reasons?" I think you can.

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Right, Judy and you just happened to bring it up after I had written HuffPost. 
It had absolutely nothing to do with that. I don't think so!

 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

It's so very hard to believe the stupidity isn't a put-on.

Hate to burst your Stupid Bubble, Share, but I wasn't suggesting you should put 
a definite article before "HuffPo." You shouldn't. My comment referred to the 
fact that you frequently do leave out the definite article where you SHOULD 
have one, yet you boast of having taken this advanced grammar course.

She isn't going to get it. I know she isn't going to get it. There just aren't 
enough brain cells to accommodate something this complicated.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Judy wrote & apparently forgot she did: Did this grammar course teach you to 
leave out the definite article? 
Because I had written: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced 
grammar course. The 
errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me.
Ok, this exchange happened under the Lucid Dreaming thread. I guess that's why 
Judy thinks it was imaginary!

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

I'd say it was, "Oh, how quickly they imagine things that never happened!" 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Oh how quickly they forget!

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Which "FFL editor" would that be, Share? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Very bad, turq. According to FFL Editor, you're supposed to say THE HuffPost! 
Faite attention, s'il vous plait!

 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

snip

I posted a link to a funny article in

HuffPost about Whole Foods. Only a few people
here commented (thanks) on how funny it was. 

Instead, within six posts Judy had adopted 
an argumentative tone in a thread about a 
funny article, and within eleven posts she
was calling someone a liar. At last count 
there were 137 posts in the thread, *most* 
of them about the tempest in a pisspot she 
created and then refused to let die. 

Can you say "shifting context?" Can you say
"Doing it for your own petty, self-serving
reasons?" I think you can.

Re: [FairfieldLife] It's All About Football

2013-09-24 Thread Mike Dixon

Gig'm Aggies!

From: Richard J. Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's All About Football

Around here it's it's all about football. 

Back in the old days, there was one important name in NCAA college football 
sports 
that really mattered : Darryl Royal. 

"... three national championships (1963, 1969, 1970), 11 Southwest Conference 
titles, 
and amassed a record of 167–47–5. He won more games than any other coach in 
Texas Longhorns football history." 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Royal

'Power Ranking the Top 5 NFL Prospects on 2013 Longhorns Team'
Bleacher Report:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1785127-texas-football-power-ranking-the-top-5-nfl-prospects-on-2013-longhorns-team

Now, it's all about Johnny Manzel.

'Johnny Manziel's astounding family history'
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/college_sports/aggies/item/Timeline-Johnny-Manziel-s-astounding-family-23035.php

Around here in the old days, it was all about Roger Staubach in the NFL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Staubach

Now, it's all about Tony Romo and Peyton Manning.

'Cowboys win over Rams was one of Tony Romo’s best games'
Dallas Morning News:
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2013/09/cowboys-win-over-rams-was-one-of-tony-romos-best-games.html/

'Peyton Manning carves up Raiders as Broncos dominate'
USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/09/23/nfl-week-3-denver-broncos-peyton-manning-defeat-oakland-raiders/2858825/

'Broncos, Peyton Manning are flirting with NFL history' 
Los Angeles Times:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-broncos-peyton-manning-20130924,0,242673.story#axzz2fp4L3xZD

RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-24 Thread Mike Dixon

Have to agree with you on the failed promises to all those government employees 
in regards to pensions, never should have been done. It's called passing the 
buck. Sure kept the unions happy while it was being done. Yet we see this 
happening on a much bigger scale nationally with all the social programs. It's 
not sustainable. It's all going to collapse one day and it's the Tea Partiers 
that are screaming it.


From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

  
Typical Tea Partier thinking on your part Mike.  Why do you buy that bullshit?  
First off the problems that governments especially on state and city levels are 
having is due to promising their  employees pensions at a full pay when they 
retire.  No pensions are NOT SS but I would have assumed you would have gotten 
that and had been paying attention to the pensions promised during boom times 
to police and fire fighters as an example.  I've read posts from people who got 
those pensions thinking it was nice to have but really not that necessary.  In 
reality it turns out the governments can't pay them.You know I don't  like 
Obamacare either but for a different reason than you.  It wound up being a big 
handout to the insurance bandits er companies.  I wanted Single Payer just like 
other countries have. But nooo, we can't have that, it's "commooonism". 
There is no lack of stupid people in the US. On 09/24/2013 06:05 AM, Mike Dixon 
wrote:
  
>Not sure what you're talking about here. What 100% pension are you talking 
>about? SS was never meant to be a *pension*, it's a supplement to whatever 
>savings and pension you were supposed to have worked for while paying into SS. 
>Divvy up jobs? Who's in charge of that and who decides who gets a job and who 
>goes on *leisure pay*? No longer enough full time jobs? Maybe we should ask 
>why and what we can do to create them and what we have done to diminish them. 
>Obamacare is a good example of why we are having fewer full time jobs. Work 
>thirty hours or more and your employer has to provide insurance which they may 
>or may not be able to afford. When 10-20 million people cross our boarders 
>illegally because *all they want is a job*, can we say there aren't enough 
>jobs to go around? Oh, I know, some jobs are just below our *dignity*. I 
>remember a day when taking public assistance was below our dignity. If someone 
>thinks they are too good for a certain kind of
 job that is available , maybe they just aught to have their ego busted so they 
can see just how valuable they really are.
>
>
>
>From: Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
>
>  
>Nothing wrong with Social Security.  But there is something wrong with 
>foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they were 
>working.  What were they smoking when they did that?  it actually isn't 
>feasible.  Times were booming and the idiots you elected (regardless of the 
>aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea when you get older is you 
>probably don't need and often want as much.  You don't need a full pension. 
>When there are no longer full time jobs for everyone then you have to divvy up 
>the jobs.  But that won't work for employers.  So what are you going to do, 
>Mike?  Tell people to crawl away and die?  You know how that will go down.  
>They'll tell you to crawl away and die. On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon 
>wrote:
>  
>>We already have that *leisure society*. Ever heard of Social Security? You 
>>pay into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join that leisure 
>>society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't even have to pay into 
>>it.  Just have something wrong that prevents you from being able to work or 
>>just be the child of a parent that died and had paid into it. Heck, you can 
>>even be a single mother and have the government pay you to raise your kids. 
>>The government will find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give 
>>you a phone, free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth 
>>having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning how to 
>>make do with a little.
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
>>
>>  
>>And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop dead. Doing 
>>what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former computer programmer 
>>waiting on you at Burger King?  At that there are not enough jobs for 
>>everybody.  I push the new leisure society where you pay people FOR NOT 
>>WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller suggested this over 50 years ago. 
>>Also many people with retirement funds used them up after un

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-24 Thread doctordumbass

[FairfieldLife] Stay on the Path!


Beware the full moon, lads - stay on the path - keep to the road!

"Empire magazine named An American Werewolf in London as the 107th greatest
film of all time in September 2008..."

'An American Werewolf in London'
Directed by John Landis
Starring David Naughton, Jenny Agutter, and Griffin Dunne

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_American_Werewolf_in_London

Also of interest:

'After Hours'
Directed by Martin Scorsese
Starring Griffin Dunne, Rosanna Arquette, Teri Garr, Tommy Chong and 
Cheech Marin
"Paul Hackett (Griffin Dunne), a word processor, meets Marcy 
Franklin...Paul uses his
last quarter to play Is That All There Is? by Peggy Lee and asks a woman 
named June

(Verna Bloom) to dance..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Hours_(film) 



Peggy Lee - Is That All There is?"
http://youtu.be/VF9mVi2KQXg...";

Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Judy wrote & apparently forgot she did: Did this grammar course teach you to 
leave out the definite article? 
Because I had written: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced 
grammar course. The 
errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me.
Ok, this exchange happened under the Lucid Dreaming thread. I guess that's why 
Judy thinks it was imaginary!



 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)
 


  
I'd say it was, "Oh, how quickly they imagine things that never happened!" 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Oh how quickly they forget!




 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)
 


  
Which "FFL editor" would that be, Share? 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Very bad, turq. According to FFL Editor, you're supposed to say THE HuffPost! 
Faite attention, s'il vous plait!





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)
 


  
snip

I posted a link to a funny article in

HuffPost about Whole Foods. Only a few people
here commented (thanks) on how funny it was. 

Instead, within six posts Judy had adopted 
an argumentative tone in a thread about a 
funny article, and within eleven posts she
was calling someone a liar. At last count 
there were 137 posts in the thread, *most* 
of them about the tempest in a pisspot she 
created and then refused to let die. 

Can you say "shifting context?" Can you say
"Doing it for your own petty, self-serving
reasons?" I think you can.

RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

[FairfieldLife] The Twilight Zone, was The Theology of Breaking Bad

"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of 
sight and sound but of mind.

A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination.

That's a sigh post up ahead! Your next stop: The Twilight Zone."

Recommended:

"Nick of Time"
Episode with William Shatner
November 18, 1960
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IJ3DiqhlTw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Twilight_Zone_episodes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Serling 

On 9/24/2013 11:24 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, get this, which I am not making up: I first watched Twilight 
around the same time my landlords started making garlic infused oil in 
the third apartment of the house! Ok, I'm gonna do some research on 
Walking Dead because it definitely sounds like a very cool theme even 
though generally I'm not into horror shows. I think Twilight is tame 
compared to most.

*From:* Richard J. Williams 
*To:* Richard J. Williams 
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:50 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Now this is funny- a guy thinks a Twilight book is about sex between 
werewolves.

Go figure.

If you enjoyed the Twilight movies you may want to check out AMC's The 
Walking Dead.

Based on the comic book series of the same name, AMC's The Walking 
Dead tells the
story of a small group of survivors living in the aftermath of a 
zombie apocalypse. A

Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series, Drama.

The series follows a group of survivors, led by police officer Rick 
Grimes, who are traveling
in search of a safe and secure home. However, instead of the zombies, 
it is the living who

remain that truly become the walking dead.

And guess what - The Walking Dead is not about zombies at all. LoL!

Read more:

'At AMC, Zombies Topple Network TV'
New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/ 

'The Walking Dead,' Like All Zombie Stories: ... Not About Zombies at All'
The Atlantic:
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/ 

On 9/24/2013 7:27 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, Share Long  
 wrote:

>
> turq, I don't find the writing in the Twilight novels
> that great. But I think it's a powerful retelling of
> the archetypal story of love between an immortal and
> a mortal, between God and human for us non atheists.
> In this sense, it's a story of surrender and unity to
> something greater than ourselves. Actually I think
> most romantic love stories are, on the deepest level,
> evoking the human yearning for unity with something
> more complete than ourselves. Also with regards to
> Twilight, perhaps a retelling of Beauty and the Beast,
> another archetypal love story. Maybe it's not an
> accident that the heroine is called Bella and the
> hero Edward calls himself a monster. Hopefully the
> archetypal aspects are also getting through to the
> teen audiences.

I can hardly speak as an expert, having made my
way through the first novel only because someone
was begging me to. It was like pulling my own teeth.

I later found criticisms of it that echoed what I
was feeling as I read. FAR from "archetypal" or
"mythic," I found it to be the literary counterpart
of those creepy clubs in high schools where they
talk guys and gals into wearing "virginity rings."

It was the mindset of the 1950s, with vampires and
the dangers of getting close to them taking the
place of the dangers of...uh...SEX. It was preaching
"sublimation," and resisting of natural desires, and
trying to elevate those things as if they were noble
and wonderful. I didn't feel that was an appropriate
message for teenagers, so I wasn't a fan.

But obviously, tastes vary. What surprises me about
the whole "Twilight" thang are the number of *older*
women who fixate on it.

> 
> From: turquoiseb  

> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:53 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad
>
>
>
> Â
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, Share Long wrote:

> >
> > Seraphita, I think both CS Lewis and the listener are right.
> > Continuing the food analogy, it's as if an essential nutrient
> > has been missing from the diet for a long time and now the
> > person is overindulging to make up for that deficit. But what
> > is the nutrient that's being so feverishly sought via the porn
> > industry? This helps me understand a little: my favorite
> > tantric teacher David Deida o

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Oh how quickly they forget!

 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Which "FFL editor" would that be, Share? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Very bad, turq. According to FFL Editor, you're supposed to say THE HuffPost! 
Faite attention, s'il vous plait!

 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

snip

I posted a link to a funny article in

HuffPost about Whole Foods. Only a few people
here commented (thanks) on how funny it was. 

Instead, within six posts Judy had adopted 
an argumentative tone in a thread about a 
funny article, and within eleven posts she
was calling someone a liar. At last count 
there were 137 posts in the thread, *most* 
of them about the tempest in a pisspot she 
created and then refused to let die. 

Can you say "shifting context?" Can you say
"Doing it for your own petty, self-serving
reasons?" I think you can.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Enoch Soames - the time traveller

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV for third graders

On 09/24/2013 10:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Last night was the debut of a couple broadcast network TV
> shows. One was "Hostage" starring Toni Collette and Dylan
> McDermott and produced by showrunner Jerry Bruckheimer
> ("CSI"). You'd think with all the trouble the networks
> are having with their shows they'd get better writers.

Why? Look at the posters people on this forum think
are intellectual giants. Based on that, I'd suspect
that writing to the third-grade level may be "aiming
too high." :-)

Seriously, thanks for the heads-up and the thumbs-down.
I won't bother. "Breaking Bad" seems to be one of the
rare exceptions; I will miss it. I *won't* miss "Dexter."

The show had possibilities but not with such dumb writing.  After a 
season of "Under the Dome" which held that spot it was a bit boorish.  
It's about a conspiracy which of course would be up my alley.  Toni 
Collette plays a doctor who is slated to do some minor surgery on the 
President.  Some thugs break in and take her and her family hostage 
(spoiler) to get her to kill the President during the surgery (dumb down 
point number one).  But there's something afoot here because the leader 
of the thugs is an FBI agent.  There is a clue at the beginning about 
what is really going on with him.

The second show NBC's "The Blacklist" which I haven't watched yet. I 
also recorder "Mom" because on Talking Bad the actor who played Badger 
was a guest and is on "Mom" along with Anna Faris who can be very funny 
if given a chance.  I haven't watched it yet either.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Downshifting, was America the Beautiful

"Even after removing the complete whole from the (other) complete whole, still 
the complete whole remains unaltered and undisturbed."
Now, Richard, THAT'S a koan to sink one's teeth into!

 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Downshifting, was America the Beautiful

Share Long wrote:
> Ah, Richard, thank you and I LOVE LOVE LOVE that bit from
  Isha 
> Upanishad expecially: one should enjoy it with renunciation. 
> So yin/yang, so Shiva/Shakti, so light and shadow, etc.
>
As the saying goes: "Purman adah, Purnam idam"

"Om ! That (world) is a complete whole. 
This (world) too is a complete whole. 
>From the complete whole only, the (other) 
complete whole rose. Even after removing 
the complete whole from the (other) 
complete whole, still the complete whole 
remains unaltered and undisturbed."

'Isha Upanishad'
http://www.vedarahasya.net/isha.htm

 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

On 9/23/2013 7:21 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> The idea when you get older is you probably
don't need and often want as 
> much...
>
It's called 'down-shifting' - going back to the
basics. All my life I've been doing
the up-shifting. This is the mime speaking.

That's what I'm going to do - sell almost
everything, the cars, houses and the 
boat, and move to the country. Live the simple life.
Downshifting - a move away
from materialism towards a simpler, more fulfilling
life!

According to Suma Varughese, downshifting also known
as "simple living" or 
"voluntary simplicity", is a path I want to take,
away from the land of the 
shopping mall.

"The only thing we can do to downshift is to reduce
our own wants and cut loose 
from the consumerist trap. What has already been
seen to be the route to
individual happiness also becomes the route to that
of the environment." 

Some adopt the devotional approach. Nothing is ours,
for all is God's according 
to Swami Shantanand Saraswati,  'The Man Who Wanted
to Meet God': 

"The Isha Upanishad says that the universe is
permeated by the Absolute. 
Whatever one sees in creation, whatever moves one
should use it fully and enjoy
this absolute everywhere, but one should enjoy it
with renunciation. One should 
not try to hold it or covet it. One need not try to
possess it. 

Enjoy it and give it up."

http://www.lifepositive.com/writers/Suma_Varughese.asp

>Nothing wrong with Social Security.  But there is something wrong with 
>foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they were 
>working.  What were they smoking when they did that?  it actually isn't 
>feasible.  Times were booming and the idiots you elected (regardless of the 
>aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea when you get older is you 
>probably don't need and often want as much.  You don't need a full pension.
>
>When there are no longer full time jobs for
everyone then you have to divvy up the jobs. 
But that won't work for employers.  So what are
you going to do, Mike?  Tell people to crawl
away and die?  You know how that will go down. 
They'll tell you to crawl away and die.
>
>On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
>
>  
>>We already have that *leisure society*. Ever heard of Social Security? You 
>>pay into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join that leisure 
>>society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't even have to pay into 
>>it.  Just have something wrong that prevents you from being able to work or 
>>just be the child of a parent that died and had paid into it. Heck, you can 
>>even be a single mother and have the government pay you to raise your kids. 
>>The government will find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give 
>>you a phone, free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth 
>>having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning how to 
>>make do with a little.
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Bhairitu 
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
>>
>>  
>>And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop dead. Doing 
>>what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former computer programmer 
>>waiting on you at Burger King?  At that there are not enough jobs for 
>>everybody.  I push the new leisure society where yo

[FairfieldLife] Downshifting, was America the Beautiful

Share Long wrote:
> Ah, Richard, thank you and I LOVE LOVE LOVE that bit from Isha
> Upanishad expecially: one should enjoy it with renunciation.
> So yin/yang, so Shiva/Shakti, so light and shadow, etc.
>
As the saying goes: "Purman adah, Purnam idam"

"Om ! That (world) is a complete whole.
This (world) too is a complete whole.
From the complete whole only, the (other)
complete whole rose. Even after removing
the complete whole from the (other)
complete whole, still the complete whole
remains unaltered and undisturbed."

'Isha Upanishad'
http://www.vedarahasya.net/isha.htm

*From:* Richard J. Williams
*To:* Richard J. Williams
*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 7:54 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

On 9/23/2013 7:21 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> The idea when you get older is you probably don't need and often want as
> much...
>
It's called 'down-shifting' - going back to the basics. All my life I've
been doing

the up-shifting. This is the mime speaking.

That's what I'm going to do - sell almost everything, the cars, houses
and the
boat, and move to the country. Live the simple life. Downshifting - a
move away

from materialism towards a simpler, more fulfilling life!

According to Suma Varughese, downshifting also known as "simple living" or
"voluntary simplicity", is a path I want to take, away from the land of the
shopping mall.

"The only thing we can do to downshift is to reduce our own wants and
cut loose

from the consumerist trap. What has already been seen to be the route to
individual happiness also becomes the route to that of the environment."

Some adopt the devotional approach. Nothing is ours, for all is God's
according

to Swami Shantanand Saraswati, 'The Man Who Wanted to Meet God':

"The Isha Upanishad says that the universe is permeated by the Absolute.
Whatever one sees in creation, whatever moves one should use it fully
and enjoy
this absolute everywhere, but one should enjoy it with renunciation. One
should

not try to hold it or covet it. One need not try to possess it.

Enjoy it and give it up."

http://www.lifepositive.com/writers/Suma_Varughese.asp

Nothing wrong with Social Security. But there is something wrong with
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they
were working. What were they smoking when they did that? it actually
isn't feasible. Times were booming and the idiots you elected
(regardless of the aisle they sat on) made those promises. The idea
when you get older is you probably don't need and often want as much.
You don't need a full pension.

When there are no longer full time jobs for everyone then you have to
divvy up the jobs. But that won't work for employers. So what are you
going to do, Mike? Tell people to crawl away and die? You know how
that will go down. They'll tell you to crawl away and die.

On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
We already have that *leisuresociety*. Ever heard of Social Security?
You pay into it for many years and at a certain age you get to join
that leisure society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't
even have to pay into it. Just have something wrong that prevents you
from being able to work or just be the child of a parent that died
and had paid into it. Heck, you can even be a single mother and have
the government pay you to raise your kids. The government will find
you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give you a phone, free
medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth having,
it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning how to
make do with a little.

*From:* Bhairitu
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop
dead. Doing what? How would you like a near aspergers like former
computer programmer waiting on you at Burger King? At that there are
not enough jobs for everybody. I push the new leisure society where
you pay people FOR NOT WORKING. Sound upside down? Bucky Fuller
suggested this over 50 years ago. Also many people with retirement
funds used them up after unemployment ran out while looking for a job
in their field. A friend who is a very competent software engineer
and college professor found himself taking Social Security at age 67
even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at
age 70. America ain't Beautiful anymore. In fact it sucks. On
09/23/2013 12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

A Christian nation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

[FairfieldLife] It's All About Football


Around here it's it's all about football.

Back in the old days, there was one important name in NCAA college 
football sports

that really mattered : Darryl Royal.

"... three national championships (1963, 1969, 1970), 11 Southwest 
Conference titles,
and amassed a record of 167--47--5. He won more games than any other 
coach in

Texas Longhorns football history."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Royal

'Power Ranking the Top 5 NFL Prospects on 2013 Longhorns Team'
Bleacher Report:
http://bleacherreport.com/texas-longhorns-football-power-ranking 



Now, it's all about Johnny Manzel.

'Johnny Manziel's astounding family history'
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/college_sports/aggies/ 



Around here in the old days, it was all about Roger Staubach in the NFL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Staubach

Now, it's all about Tony Romo and Peyton Manning.

'Cowboys win over Rams was one of Tony Romo's best games'
Dallas Morning News:
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/tony-romos-best-games.html/ 



'Peyton Manning carves up Raiders as Broncos dominate'
USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/denver-broncos-peyton-manning 



'Broncos, Peyton Manning are flirting with NFL history'
Los Angeles Times:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/broncos-peyton-manning

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

Well, Obbajee, since I don't know exactly what THIS is, I can't really offer 
any insights. Oh, there's been a really bad jyotish thing happening. All the 
grahas between rahu and ketu. But that's easing up now. It has a name but I 
can't find it.





 From: obbajeeba 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Actually, Share, I had NO IDEA that SHANI RAHU SHUKRA could cause 
THIS!!
WTF and that is beyond IMHO!
More like WTF is this?!!
Share, please do tell what you know about this. I am sorry you are going into 
the sickness thing. I better count my lucky stars then. .HOLY GOD MOTHER OF 
JESUS!  

Catholics can be a bit um... PRAISE the LORD?
Please, Share, because this is not funny. Please give insight.
Details for which you are tempted to ask, well, let's say I need an Exorcism 
Intervention now!
Totally sober and not on any drugs or alcohol. Did not see this coming and I 
hope I make it to the other side alive. The other side of this conjunction of 
grahas force feeding me too much attention and too close to my living 
arrangements making convenience, a convenience. SOS



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Obbajee, I'm here but I've been avoiding the temptation to ask you for juicy 
details about Rahu/Sani with Shukra thrown in the mix. Surely you knew what 
THAT combo could indicate?! Guess it depends on which graha is graced by said 
combustible combo LOL. For a Libra lagna it's meant walking pneumonia with 
cough. Go figure!





 From: obbajeeba 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
IMHO, for which I have an IMHO, Barry is wet dreaming and he also cannot 
control who he dreams about even when he tries to google avatars and images on 
google to attempt the guess to what the girls look like who post here on FFL. 
IMHO and ROTFLMAO TMI and other acronyms I think Share loves to play and enjoys 
the attention here on FFL, IMHO.
Nice to see Emily, and I am getting used to this and may miss a subject from 
time to time or when I see fit, whichever happens. Takes me a bit to get back 
into this writing form, so I apologize for typos. Although you all are used to 
it. :)  
IMHO.
Where is my Share bear?

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Ann, I thought about informing Share why her statement below is nonsense, 
backing it up with documentation, making her mad by using the acronym IMHO, but 
I'm going to start the day off on a different tack and say a little prayer for 
her.  I am thrilled however, Ann, that Barry said "buh bye," if even for a day. 
He sounded like he was about to wet his pants.  Bless you.  



 From: "awoelflebater@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Judy, I don't know what you're talking about here. I thought the thread was 
about you obsessing on *if true* and ignoring all the great stuff Xeno wrote 
yesterday. What does turq have to do with it?! 

Oh dear Share, I think I noticed that there is another CD caught in your 
player. Maybe you should attend to that for the time being; you had some 
success yesterday extricating the one that was stuck. Maybe that or join the 
folks for some bananagrams at Revelations. Emily?





 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Barry is lying; everyone who has been following this knows he's lying. He knows 
they know he's lying. Even Share knows he's lying.

Somebody please explain to me what the point is. What does a person get out of 
lying when they know they aren't deceiving anybody? What do they get out of 
advertising that they're a liar, over and over again (six times, so far, in 
this case)? Why would they want to be known as a liar? And a  malicious liar, 
at that?

I've never understood this. What's the payoff?

(snip)

What you're missing is the delicious irony of all this.
The person who has called more people "Liar!" than 
anyone else in Internet history got peeved that anyone
would even infer such a thing about *her*, and threw
a tantrum. She declared that she would never have any
discussions with the offending person until he either
documented his inference or retracted it. He did 
neither, and in effect *thanked* her in advance for
no longer bothering him with her "discussions."

She went fuckin' CRAZY, first backpedaling to claim
that her statement didn't mean that she couldn't 
"comment" on his posts, and then

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Jason, there are countries where men and women dress in very similar ways. But 
those countries don't seem very egalitarian to me!




 From: Jason 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:19 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad
 


  

Share, discrimination, bias, prejudices continue to exist on 
very subtle levels.  There are invisible glass ceilings.  It 
can take generations to wipe them out.

An unisex dress code (specialy for children) in public 
spaces, I believe can play a role in creating a truly 
egalitarian society.


> --- "sharelong60"  wrote:
> 
> Jason, your comment about unisex dress code kind of jumped 
> out at me as did your linking that to an egalitarian 
> society. Actually I'm still kind of baffled by it so don't 
> even know what to ask except: can you say more?
>
> > From: Jason 
> > 
> > The Chinese philosophy which speaks of Yin-Yang, two  
> > equal energies mutually balancing each other is a far  
> > superior philosophy to western philosophy and certain  
> > aspects of indian philosophy.
> > 
> > Science itself says that male and female are equals but 
> > different.
> > 
> > Yoga is essentialy balance, ie life within parameters.
> > 
> > Any society or culture that is imbalanced will 
> > eventually destroy itself.  Nature hates imbalances and 
> > always tries to reach an equilibrium.  I have always  
> > believed that an unisex dresscode in public spaces, is  
> > an important way to bring in a truly egalitarian  
> > society.
> > 
> > "If a republic is small, it is destroyed by a foreign  
> > force; if it is large, it is destroyed by an internal  
> > vice."
> > 
> > ~French philosopher, Montesquieu
> > 

> > >  --- "s3raphita"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ah, yes! C.S. Lewis and Mere Christianity. The book was 
> > > originally a series of talks Lewis gave on BBC Radio in 
> > > the 1940s. At one point he brought up the delicate topic 
> > > of sex. Lewis maintained that in his youth he had been all
> > > in favour of a "natural"attitude towards sexual matters 
> > > but - he said - surely contemporary attitudes towards sex
> > > were anything but "natural". There was something 
> > > positively diseased about them. As an example, Lewis asked
> > > us to consider a striptease show. What are we make of such
> > > an exhibition? Well, he said, imagine you had arrived in a
> > > strange country where you discovered that the inhabitants
> > > were in the habit of paying to gather in front of a 
> > > display of food that was hidden from view. Then, slowly, 
> > > the appetising meal was revealed to the gaze of the 
> > > citizens. Wouldn't you then conclude that something had
> > > gone seriously wrong with the appetites of the denizens of
> > > this imaginary nation? Well, isn't the same true of our 
> > > attitudes towards sex? We have a diseased approach, he 
> > > concluded.
> > > 
> > > A listener to the programme later wrote in to say: if I 
> > > came across a country such as you describe I would assume
> > > that the people were starving. What a splendid response! 
> > > The implication being that men frequent strip shows 
> > > because they are sex-starved.
> > > 
> > > Now take a look around you at the 24/7 porn culture we 
> > > inhabit. Was Lewis right or the anonymous listener?


>
> > --- Pundister  wrote:
> >
> > "In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis calls pride 'The Great
> > Sin' for it 'has been the chief cause of misery in
> > every nation and every family since the world began'Â¦ it
> > was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride
> > leads to every other vice.' We see in Walter' case that
> > it is his pride' 'an unwillingness to accept normal
> > treatment, a refusal to be a charity case even when
> > faced with his own impending death' that starts him on 
> > the path toward manufacturing meth. Pride is the 
> > catalyst that leads to all of Walter's other sins."
> >
> > Read more:
> >
> > 'The Theology of Breaking Bad'
> > http://www.fare-forward.com/the-theology-of-breaking-bad/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Seraphita, are people more sex obsessed now than before? Or is it simply that 
there's more openness about the obsession now? As for Lewis, in Shadowlands he 
seems like a confirmed bachelor who had a rug pulled out from under his feet! 
I'm guessing he was pretty innocent about sex as well as being naive about the 
Catholic Church.

 From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:15 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Re I think both CS Lewis and the listener are right. Continuing the food 
analogy, it's as if an essential nutrient has been missing from the diet for a 
long time and now the person is overindulging to make up for that deficit.": 
yes, I think that's right. (Though the food analogy might break down if you 
consider those many millionaires who had starved in their youth. Though they 
later became fabulously rich they stayed tight-fisted to their dying day. One 
chap always used to have hard-boiled eggs on him so that he didn't find himself 
having to pay for a meal.) 

Someone might object, though, that the people over-indulging now aren't the 
people who were starving. The sixties' sex revolution was a long time ago. 
What's happened is that people now have "sex on the brain". Thanks to mass 
media saturation sex has moved into our mental "imaginary sphere" and 
imaginations can't be limited as real-life experience is.

Lewis probably never saw that the rise of porn and S&M culture, etc, owes a lot 
to the fact that Christianity made sex sinful. 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Seraphita, I think both CS Lewis and the listener are right. Continuing the 
food analogy, it's as if an essential nutrient has been missing from the diet 
for a long time and now the person is overindulging to make up for that 
deficit. But what is the nutrient that's being so feverishly sought via the 
porn industry? This helps me understand a little: my favorite tantric teacher 
David Deida once said that to a straight man, the female body is the most 
beautiful thing in the world. Anyway, we women aren't hardwired the same visual 
way but I think a parallel hunger in women shows up in the popularity of 
romance novels and mushy love songs and chick flicks. This all reminds me of 
something I read once, sorry can't remember the author at the moment: that men 
need sex to feel love and women need to feel love to have sex. Seems like one 
of life's little jests.

PS I know about CS Lewis only from the movie Shadowlands, based on his life, 
specifically his marriage.

 From: "s3raphita@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Ah, yes! C.S. Lewis and Mere Christianity. The book was originally a series of 
talks Lewis gave on BBC Radio in the 1940s. At one point he brought up the 
delicate topic of sex. Lewis maintained that in his youth he had been all in 
favour of a "natural"attitude towards sexual matters but - he said - surely 
contemporary attitudes towards sex were anything but "natural". There was 
something positively diseased about them. As an example, Lewis asked us to 
consider a striptease show. What are we make of such an exhibition? Well, he 
said, imagine you had arrived in a strange country where you discovered that 
the inhabitants were in the habit of paying to gather in front of a display of 
food that was hidden from view. Then, slowly, the appetising meal was revealed 
to the gaze of the citizens. Wouldn't you then conclude that something had gone 
seriously wrong with the appetites of the denizens of this imaginary nation? 
Well, isn't the same true of our attitudes
 towards sex? We have a diseased approach, he concluded.

A listener to the programme later wrote in to say: if I came across a country 
such as you describe I would assume that the people were starving. What a 
splendid response! The implication being that men frequent strip shows because 
they are sex-starved.

Now take a look around you at the 24/7 porn culture we inhabit. Was Lewis right 
or the anonymous listener? 

--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>
>"In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis calls pride “The Great Sin” for it 
>“has been the chief cause of misery in every nation and every family 
>since the world began… it was through Pride that the devil became the 
>devil: Pride leads to every other vice.” We see in Walter’s case that it 
>is his pride—an unwillingness to accept normal treatment, a refusal to 
>be a charity case even when faced with his own impending death—that 
>starts him on the path toward manufacturing meth. Pride is the catalyst 
>that leads to all of Walter’s other sins."
>
>Read more:
>
>'The Theology of Breaking Bad'
>http://www.fare-forward.com/the-theology-of-breaking-bad/

[FairfieldLife] A Bad Day at Black Rock!

Uh,oh! When will they start storming the west gates? I hope it's not a 
bad day at Black Rock!


But, fer sure I don't think I'll be moving up to Minnesota any time 
soon. Go figure.


'Americans Among Westgate Mall Attackers, Kenya Foreign Minister Says'
ABC News:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/americans-westgate-mall-attackers-kenya 



Westgate Mall
4477 S Lamar Blvd, Austin, TX
http://www.yellowpages.com/austin-tx/westgate-mall

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Day_at_Black_Rock

[FairfieldLife] Wallah or Sahib, was Yehova or Yahve?

Card:
> I'm just a simple wanna-be-linguist, not a philosopher
>
You do have a predilection for linguists. I'm still trying to learn 
English grammar -

do you know how to diagram a simple sentence?

I'm am trying to learn Urdu and Hindi at a local community college from 
Professor
Adul using an Urdu phrase book I got at Barnes &Noble. I told Rita to 
get me one
of those 'Rosetta Stones', but they didn't have one for conversational 
Urdu.

Go figure.

The first thing you got to do is learn the ABC's, and then practice some 
phrases:

Hello/Goodbye
namaste (Hindi)
namaskar

Hello
adab (Urdu)

Goodbye
kuda hafiz

Mr
Sri (Hindi)

Sahib (Urdu)

Mrs (Hindi)
Sri

Sahiba (Urdu)

How much?
kiraya kitna hai (Hindi)

I'll just watch thanks.
mai sirf dekhuga

No I'm not going to India.
ji nahi, mai bharat mahi jaugi (Hindi)

to throw pearls before the swine
bhais ke age bin bajana (Hindi)

According to what I've read, Hindi is conventionally written in the 
Devangiri script which
gradually evolved in north India from Vedic times. The same script is 
used to write Sanskrit,
Nepali and Marathi. It's also similar to scripts that are used to write 
Urdu, Bengali,
Assamese,  Gujarati and Punjabi. The Devangiri script is written left to 
right.

Apparently in a comparatively small number of words both ai and au may 
be pronounced

as dipthongs. Go figure.

P.S. How's Mullquest?

Notes:

The term 'wallah' is an extremely useful adjectival suffix - walla - in 
both Hindi and Urdu
means 'that fellow' or 'the fellow who does that', e.g. 'Tat Wallah 
Baba', or 'The fellow of

the Tat' (transcendenatal absolute) or 'That bright fellow from Tejas'. LoL!

predilection:

noun

plural noun: predilections

1. a preference or special liking for something; a bias in favor of 
something.

"my predilection for Asian food"

synonyms: liking, fondness, preference, partiality, taste, penchant, 
weakness, soft spot,
fancy, inclination, leaning, bias, propensity, bent, proclivity, 
predisposition, appetite

"a predilection for shellfish"

antonyms: dislike

https://www.google.com/search/predliction 

On 9/24/2013 1:16 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have nothing to add. I'm just a simple wanna-be-linguist, not a 
philosopher...

--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 wrote:

Card writes:

>
> This is really "funny"?
>
> I'll try to explain it as best as I can...
>
> When Moses asks what the name of the Burning Bush is, He replies
>
> ehyee asher ehyee  (I shall be what I shall be: I am what I am).

Sounds like the right translation to me...   :-)

http://de-motivational-posters.com/images/burning-bush-bible-belt-all-the-way.jpg

Thank God that woman is wearing asbestos underwear.

funny de motivational poster: Burning Bush - Bible belt all the way.

[FairfieldLife] American Surrogate Mothers Wanted

2013-09-24 Thread jr_esq

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV for third graders

2013-09-24 Thread turquoiseb

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Last night was the debut of a couple broadcast network TV 
> shows. One was "Hostage" starring Toni Collette and Dylan 
> McDermott and produced by showrunner Jerry Bruckheimer 
> ("CSI"). You'd think with all the trouble the networks 
> are having with their shows they'd get better writers.  

Why? Look at the posters people on this forum think
are intellectual giants. Based on that, I'd suspect
that writing to the third-grade level may be "aiming
too high."  :-)

Seriously, thanks for the heads-up and the thumbs-down.
I won't bother. "Breaking Bad" seems to be one of the
rare exceptions; I will miss it. I *won't* miss "Dexter."

RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

On 9/24/2013 5:17 AM, Jason wrote:
> Judy, it's precisely this kind of statements you make that I
> and WillyTex were refering to...
>
Well, I'm glad to see that someone is on the Judy-Barry case!

And, I can tell you that we're dealing with some of the strangest
behavior patterns on the internet. Sometimes I think I'm on 4Chan
instead of on Yahoo FFL. Go figure.

The history of these two, Judy and Barry, are legend by now -
famous for fifteen minutes on the internet.

Barry wrote: "Willy, since fucking prairie dogs or whatever you
do with your time doesn't seem to fill enough of it lately..."

Clever!

But, just for the record, Judy called me a 'liar' in a post on
Usenet concerning Bush's overall approval rating in a Gallup
poll that I cited. She either would not or could not admit that
my citation was accurate, even to the point of ignoring a
screen-shot of the data that I posted to my Website.

When I demanded an apology, she called me "a slime ball" or
something to that effect. In one post she referred to me as a
'molusk'.

Apparently Judy isn't not one of my biggest fans. LoL!

Other than that, you could count on one hand the number of
conversations I've had with Ms Stein  or Mr. Wright.

For about four years, from 1999-2003, Judy studiously avoided
addressing me, as if I was a non-person or something.

I've probably posted about 10,000 messages to Usenet, the
vast majority of them on topic. Its only during an election that
I've posted many OT political observations or news citations.

At some point, I realized that Judy has a very serious problem
with conservative political ideology, which far outweighs any
collaboration with others to defend Mr. Varma. Go figure.

That said, she's most often spot-on in her comments on TM and
TM practice, the subject of this forum. So, I like to give credit
where credit is due.

As for Barry, he still hasn't explained the Rama levitation event.

Hey! How many posts do you have to submit to this list anyway,
before you're not considered a troll? Go figure.

On 9/24/2013 5:17 AM, Jason wrote:

Judy, it's precisely this kind of statements you make that I
and WillyTex were refering to.

To put it bluntly, you are abrasive.

If you had diplomacy, if you let the conversations flow in a
natural and fluid way, you would be certainly a brilliant
poster. As Xeno pointed out, you as much as Barry, shift
contexts in arguments.

Barry is an emotional psychopath, and an emotional sadist.

You, on the other hand is an intellectual psychopath.

Ravi told a plain lie to Curtis that he bought drink to a
minor. You tried to justifiy it by saying, Curtis was
"projecting".

_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/300480
_
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/300544_

> --- "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> Good lord, (E)hare, don't humiliate yourself by invoking
> Mr. Spock's logic. You wouldn't recognize logic if it
> stuck its fingers up your nose.
>
> > --- sharelong60  wrote:
> >
> > (D)udy, you told ME not to waste YOUR time! Duh! How can
> > I  possibly waste YOUR time?! As Spock would say: your
> > logic is weak.
> >
> > > From: "authfriend@..." 
> > >
> > > Share tried a blather instead of a blither:
> > >
> > > I have no control over which posts of mine you read,
> > > Judy, ergo I have no control over how you spend your
> > > time on FFL.
> > >
> > > I don't believe I said you did, Share.
> > >
> > > What you do have control over is whether you ask
> > > stupid questions.
> > >
> > > Oh, wait...
> > >

[FairfieldLife] TV for third graders

Last night was the debut of a couple broadcast network TV shows. One was 
"Hostage" starring Toni Collette and Dylan McDermott and produced by 
showrunner Jerry Bruckheimer ("CSI").   You'd think with all the trouble 
the networks are having with their shows they'd get better writers.  
This thing seemed to be written for third graders. Does Bruckheimer 
think they stay up that late? It's a "limited" series and may wind up 
more limited than planned.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Richard, get this, which I am not making up: I first watched Twilight around 
the same time my landlords started making garlic infused oil in the third 
apartment of the house! Ok, I'm gonna do some research on Walking Dead because 
it definitely sounds like a very cool theme even though generally I'm not into 
horror shows. I think Twilight is tame compared to most. 





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad
 


  
Now this is funny- a guy thinks a Twilight book is about sex between 
werewolves. 

Go figure.

If you enjoyed the Twilight movies you may want to check out AMC's
  The Walking Dead.

Based on the comic book series of the same name, AMC's The Walking
  Dead tells the 
story of a small group of survivors living in the aftermath of a
  zombie apocalypse. A
Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series, Drama.

The series follows a group of survivors, led by police officer
  Rick Grimes, who are traveling
in search of a safe and secure home. However, instead of the
  zombies, it is the living who 
remain that truly become the walking dead.

And guess what - The Walking Dead is not about zombies at all.
  LoL!

Read more:

'At AMC, Zombies Topple Network TV'
New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/

'The Walking Dead,' Like All Zombie Stories: ... Not About Zombies
  at All'
The Atlantic:
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/

On 9/24/2013 7:27 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

  
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>>
>> turq, I don't find the writing in the Twilight novels 
>> that great. But I think it's a powerful retelling of 
>> the archetypal story of love between an immortal and 
>> a mortal, between God and human for us non atheists. 
>> In this sense, it's a story of surrender and unity to 
>> something greater than ourselves. Actually I think 
>> most romantic love stories are, on the deepest level, 
>> evoking the human yearning for unity with something 
>> more complete than ourselves. Also with regards to 
>> Twilight, perhaps a retelling of Beauty and the
  Beast, 
>> another archetypal love story. Maybe it's not an 
>> accident that the heroine is called Bella and the 
>> hero Edward calls himself a monster. Hopefully the 
>> archetypal aspects are also getting through to the 
>> teen audiences.
>
>I can hardly speak as an expert, having made my
>way through the first novel only because someone
>was begging me to. It was like pulling my own teeth.
>
>I later found criticisms of it that echoed what I
>was feeling as I read. FAR from "archetypal" or
>"mythic," I found it to be the literary counterpart
>of those creepy clubs in high schools where they
>talk guys and gals into wearing "virginity rings."
>
>It was the mindset of the 1950s, with vampires and
>the dangers of getting close to them taking the 
>place of the dangers of...uh...SEX. It was preaching 
>"sublimation," and resisting of natural desires, and 
>trying to elevate those things as if they were noble 
>and wonderful. I didn't feel that was an appropriate 
>message for teenagers, so I wasn't a fan. 
>
>But obviously, tastes vary. What surprises me about
>the whole "Twilight" thang are the number of *older*
>women who fixate on it. 
>
>> 
>> From: turquoiseb 
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:53 AM
>> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking
  Bad
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Â  
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>> >
>> > Seraphita, I think both CS Lewis and the
  listener are right. 
>> > Continuing the food analogy, it's as if an
  essential nutrient 
>> > has been missing from the diet for a long time
  and now the 
>> > person is overindulging to make up for that
  deficit. But what 
>> > is the nutrient that's being so feverishly
  sought via the porn 
>> > industry? This helps me understand a little: my
  favorite 
>> > tantric teacher David Deida once said that to a
  straight man, 
>> > the female body is the most beautiful thing in
  the world. 
>> > Anyway, we women aren't hardwired the same
  visual way 
>> > but I think a parallel hunger in women shows up
  in the 
>> > popularity of romance novels and mushy love
  songs and 
>> > chick flicks. 
>> 
>> As an example of the creative uses of "context
  shifting" I
>> wrote about in my last post, this reminded me of a
  recent
>> article quoting author Stephen King on the sad (in
  his eyes)
>> popularity of "tweenager porn."
>> 
>> http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/sep/21/stephen-king-twilight-tweenage-pornÂ
>>  
>> 
>> I agree with him completely, at least about
  "Tw

Re: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

Very bad, turq. According to FFL Editor, you're supposed to say THE HuffPost! 
Faite attention, s'il vous plait!

 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)

snip

I posted a link to a funny article in

HuffPost about Whole Foods. Only a few people
here commented (thanks) on how funny it was. 

Instead, within six posts Judy had adopted 
an argumentative tone in a thread about a 
funny article, and within eleven posts she
was calling someone a liar. At last count 
there were 137 posts in the thread, *most* 
of them about the tempest in a pisspot she 
created and then refused to let die. 

Can you say "shifting context?" Can you say
"Doing it for your own petty, self-serving
reasons?" I think you can.

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Setting up a Home Office

I had Libre Office on this build of Ubuntu Studio but it was weaker than 
Open Office.  I needed to test Word documents that I was generating via 
code and Libre was ignoring some of the Rich Text formatting codes.  
Open Office didn't.  But to get Open Office to work you have to 
completely uninstall Libre Office.  Word in its many frustrating 
incarnations has at least three different file formats: the original 
Rich Text, XML and XAML.



On 09/24/2013 08:39 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote:


There's also LibreOffice:


http://www.libreoffice.org/


I have no idea how it compares with other office suites. I only use it 
to open the very occasional office-type file that comes my way, and it 
has always worked fine.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
wrote:


Lot's of professionals use Microsoft Office as their primary personal 
productivity tool.
Some people depend on Microsoft Word to make a living at work.  I've 
used MS Office

since 1994 when Windows 95 came out.

Now we've got a real home office equipped with workstations, scanners, 
printers, and
a fax machine. And, a broadband connection. On a cler day I can almost 
see the Eagle

Ford Shale. We are about a mile from George Straight's ranch.

We started out working for ScanCode using WordPerfect, Quattro Pro, 
and Paradox.
I still think WP is the perfect word processor. Later we switched over 
to MS and started

using MS Word, Outlook, and MS Access.

According to what I've read, the people at Oracle didn't want to pay 
Microsoft millions
to install MS Office on their 40,000 workstations, so they bought Sun 
and invented the

Oracle OpenOffice.

So we are trying out the Apache OpenOffice which is still a little 
buggy; and Google
QuickOffice, which is not the same thing as Google Docs. QuickOffice 
is nice and you

can get 10 GB of free storage space!

The only problem is that the Google app is located on the cloud, so 
you're dependent

on having a broadband connection. Go figure.

Apache OpenOffice:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/reviews/

Google QuickOffice:
http://www.cbsnews.com/get-10gb-free-on-google-drive-with-quickoffice/

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

Obbajee, I'm here but I've been avoiding the temptation to ask you for juicy 
details about Rahu/Sani with Shukra thrown in the mix. Surely you knew what 
THAT combo could indicate?! Guess it depends on which graha is graced by said 
combustible combo LOL. For a Libra lagna it's meant walking pneumonia with 
cough. Go figure!





 From: obbajeeba 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
IMHO, for which I have an IMHO, Barry is wet dreaming and he also cannot 
control who he dreams about even when he tries to google avatars and images on 
google to attempt the guess to what the girls look like who post here on FFL. 
IMHO and ROTFLMAO TMI and other acronyms I think Share loves to play and enjoys 
the attention here on FFL, IMHO.
Nice to see Emily, and I am getting used to this and may miss a subject from 
time to time or when I see fit, whichever happens. Takes me a bit to get back 
into this writing form, so I apologize for typos. Although you all are used to 
it. :)  
IMHO.
Where is my Share bear?

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Ann, I thought about informing Share why her statement below is nonsense, 
backing it up with documentation, making her mad by using the acronym IMHO, but 
I'm going to start the day off on a different tack and say a little prayer for 
her.  I am thrilled however, Ann, that Barry said "buh bye," if even for a day. 
He sounded like he was about to wet his pants.  Bless you.  



 From: "awoelflebater@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Judy, I don't know what you're talking about here. I thought the thread was 
about you obsessing on *if true* and ignoring all the great stuff Xeno wrote 
yesterday. What does turq have to do with it?! 

Oh dear Share, I think I noticed that there is another CD caught in your 
player. Maybe you should attend to that for the time being; you had some 
success yesterday extricating the one that was stuck. Maybe that or join the 
folks for some bananagrams at Revelations. Emily?





 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Barry is lying; everyone who has been following this knows he's lying. He knows 
they know he's lying. Even Share knows he's lying.

Somebody please explain to me what the point is. What does a person get out of 
lying when they know they aren't deceiving anybody? What do they get out of 
advertising that they're a liar, over and over again (six times, so far, in 
this case)? Why would they want to be known as a liar? And a  malicious liar, 
at that?

I've never understood this. What's the payoff?

(snip)

What you're missing is the delicious irony of all this.
The person who has called more people "Liar!" than 
anyone else in Internet history got peeved that anyone
would even infer such a thing about *her*, and threw
a tantrum. She declared that she would never have any
discussions with the offending person until he either
documented his inference or retracted it. He did 
neither, and in effect *thanked* her in advance for
no longer bothering him with her "discussions."

She went fuckin' CRAZY, first backpedaling to claim
that her statement didn't mean that she couldn't 
"comment" on his posts, and then set forth to make
several posts in which she addressed him directly
and tried to provoke a reply, clearly an attempt at 
"discussion." 

In other words, the person who *specializes* in 
calling other people "liars" on this forum PROVED
HERSELF TO BE A LIAR. 


I'd call that "fun." You, caught up in your Mean
Girl crush on the only person on the forum bitchier
than you, can call it whatever you want. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad

2013-09-24 Thread Jason


Share, discrimination, bias, prejudices continue to exist on
very subtle levels.  There are invisible glass ceilings.  It
can take generations to wipe them out.

An unisex dress code (specialy for children) in public
spaces, I believe can play a role in creating a truly
egalitarian society.


> --- "sharelong60"  wrote:
>
> Jason, your comment about unisex dress code kind of jumped
> out at me as did your linking that to an egalitarian
> society. Actually I'm still kind of baffled by it so don't
> even know what to ask except: can you say more?
>
> > From: Jason 
> >
> > The Chinese philosophy which speaks of Yin-Yang, two
> > equal energies mutually balancing each other is a far
> > superior philosophy to western philosophy and certain
> > aspects of indian philosophy.
> >
> > Science itself says that male and female are equals but
> > different.
> >
> > Yoga is essentialy balance, ie life within parameters.
> >
> > Any society or culture that is imbalanced will
> > eventually destroy itself.  Nature hates imbalances and
> > always tries to reach an equilibrium.  I have always
> > believed that an unisex dresscode in public spaces, is
> > an important way to bring in a truly egalitarian
> > society.
> >
> > "If a republic is small, it is destroyed by a foreign
> > force; if it is large, it is destroyed by an internal
> > vice."
> >
> > ~French philosopher, Montesquieu
> >

> > >  --- "s3raphita"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah, yes! C.S. Lewis and Mere Christianity. The book was
> > > originally a series of talks Lewis gave on BBC Radio in
> > > the 1940s. At one point he brought up the delicate topic
> > > of sex. Lewis maintained that in his youth he had been all
> > > in favour of a "natural"attitude towards sexual matters
> > > but - he said - surely contemporary attitudes towards sex
> > > were anything but "natural". There was something
> > > positively diseased about them. As an example, Lewis asked
> > > us to consider a striptease show. What are we make of such
> > > an exhibition? Well, he said, imagine you had arrived in a
> > > strange country where you discovered that the inhabitants
> > > were in the habit of paying to gather in front of a
> > > display of food that was hidden from view. Then, slowly,
> > > the appetising meal was revealed to the gaze of the
> > > citizens. Wouldn't you then conclude that something had
> > > gone seriously wrong with the appetites of the denizens of
> > > this imaginary nation? Well, isn't the same true of our
> > > attitudes towards sex? We have a diseased approach, he
> > > concluded.
> > >
> > > A listener to the programme later wrote in to say: if I
> > > came across a country such as you describe I would assume
> > > that the people were starving. What a splendid response!
> > > The implication being that men frequent strip shows
> > > because they are sex-starved.
> > >
> > > Now take a look around you at the 24/7 porn culture we
> > > inhabit. Was Lewis right or the anonymous listener?


>
> > --- Pundister  wrote:
> >
> > "In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis calls pride 'The Great
> > Sin' for it 'has been the chief cause of misery in
> > every nation and every family since the world began'Â¦ it
> > was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride
> > leads to every other vice.' We see in Walter' case that
> > it is his pride' 'an unwillingness to accept normal
> > treatment, a refusal to be a charity case even when
> > faced with his own impending death' that starts him on
> > the path toward manufacturing meth. Pride is the
> > catalyst that leads to all of Walter's other sins."
> >
> > Read more:
> >
> > 'The Theology of Breaking Bad'
> > http://www.fare-forward.com/the-theology-of-breaking-bad/

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Many Ways the Government Is Spying On Us

The movie "The Reluctant Fundmentalist" that I mentioned here the other 
day charactarizes quite well the government goons who want to spy on 
what.  These people are dumber than doughnuts.  Stand up to them!  I 
would think anyone here could probably fuck up their minds quite well. 
Always question authority.  We pay the taxes that pay these peoples 
salaries.


By all rights we should be spying on them!

On 09/23/2013 06:31 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:



  The Many Ways the Government Is Spying On Us
  

 *


The Alex Jones Channel
 Alex Jones Show
podcast  
Infowars.com Twitter    Alex
Jones' Facebook 
Infowars store 

The Government Is Spying On Us Through Our Computers, Phones, Cars, 
Buses, Streetlights, At Airports And On The Street, Via Mobile 
Scanners And Drones, Through Our Smart Meters, And In Many Other Ways



http://www.infowars.com/the-many-ways-the-government-is-spying-on-us/

[FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

Typical Tea Partier thinking on your part Mike. Why do you buy that
bullshit? First off the problems that governments especially on state
and city levels are having is due to promising their employees pensions
at a full pay when they retire. No pensions are NOT SS but I would have
assumed you would have gotten that and had been paying attention to the
pensions promised during boom times to police and fire fighters as an
example. I've read posts from people who got those pensions thinking it
was nice to have but really not that necessary. In reality it turns out
the governments can't pay them.

You know I don't like Obamacare either but for a different reason than
you. It wound up being a big handout to the insurance bandits er
companies. I wanted Single Payer just like other countries have. But
nooo, we can't have that, it's "commooonism". There is no lack of
stupid people in the US.

On 09/24/2013 06:05 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Not sure what you're talking about here. What 100% pension are you
talking about? SS was never meant to be a *pension*, it's a supplement
to whatever savings and pension you were supposed to have worked for
while paying into SS. Divvy up jobs? Who's in charge of that and who
decides who gets a job and who goes on *leisure pay*? No longer enough
full time jobs? Maybe we should ask why and what we can do to create
them and what we have done to diminish them. Obamacare is a good
example of why we are having fewer full time jobs. Work thirty hours
or more and your employer has to provide insurance which they may or
may not be able to afford. When 10-20 million people cross our
boarders illegally because *all they want is a job*, can we say there
aren't enough jobs to go around? Oh, I know, some jobs are just below
our *dignity*. I remember a day when taking public assistance was
below our dignity. If someone thinks they are too good for a certain
kind of job that is available, maybe they just aught to have their ego
busted so they can see just how valuable they really are.

*From:* Bhairitu
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 5:21 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
Nothing wrong with Social Security. But there is something wrong with
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they
were working. What were they smoking when they did that? it actually
isn't feasible. Times were booming and the idiots you elected
(regardless of the aisle they sat on) made those promises. The idea
when you get older is you probably don't need and often want as much.
You don't need a full pension.When there are no longer full time jobs
for everyone then you have to divvy up the jobs. But that won't work
for employers. So what are you going to do, Mike? Tell people to
crawl away and die? You know how that will go down. They'll tell you
to crawl away and die.On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
We already have that *leisuresociety*. Ever heard of Social Security?
You pay into it for many years and at a certain age you get to join
that leisure society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't
even have to pay into it. Just have something wrong that prevents
you from being able to work or just be the child of a parent that
died and had paid into it. Heck, you can even be a single mother and
have the government pay you to raise your kids. The government will
find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give you a phone,
free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth
having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning
how to make do with a little.

*From:* Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Way to Wisdom

Richard, zestful ease reminds me of you know what: restful alertness. (-:

 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:30 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Way to Wisdom

The insights of Shakya the Muni, the historical Buddha, have been 
conveyed to us through the
minds of and writings of persons who interpreted the Middle Way as they 
understood it. It is
obvious that the practical applications of the Shakya's principles have 
been applied in ways that
he might not entirely approve.

"A teaching is given from one level of consciousness; it is received on 
quite another." - MMY

When you analyze the TM technique with the main principle of the Shakya, 
namely simple
meditation, it is easy to see a parallel in the teaching.

The Shakya is reported to have said:

"I call to mind how when the Sakyan my father was ploughing, I sat in 
the cool shade of the
rose-apple tree, remote from desires and ill conditions, and entered 
upon and abode in the First
Musing, that is accompanied by thought directed and sustained, which is 
born of solitude, full
of zestful ease. And then I said, 'Is this the Way to the Wisdom?' And 
on that occasion there
came to me the consciousness that follows thought composed, 'Yes, this 
is the Way to the
Wisdom.'" - (M.N. i.242-1)

Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-24 Thread Emily Reyn

Ann, I thought about informing Share why her statement below is nonsense, 
backing it up with documentation, making her mad by using the acronym IMHO, but 
I'm going to start the day off on a different tack and say a little prayer for 
her.  I am thrilled however, Ann, that Barry said "buh bye," if even for a day. 
He sounded like he was about to wet his pants.  Bless you.  

 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Judy, I don't know what you're talking about here. I thought the thread was 
about you obsessing on *if true* and ignoring all the great stuff Xeno wrote 
yesterday. What does turq have to do with it?! 

Oh dear Share, I think I noticed that there is another CD caught in your 
player. Maybe you should attend to that for the time being; you had some 
success yesterday extricating the one that was stuck. Maybe that or join the 
folks for some bananagrams at Revelations. Emily?

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

Barry is lying; everyone who has been following this knows he's lying. He knows 
they know he's lying. Even Share knows he's lying.

Somebody please explain to me what the point is. What does a person get out of 
lying when they know they aren't deceiving anybody? What do they get out of 
advertising that they're a liar, over and over again (six times, so far, in 
this case)? Why would they want to be known as a liar? And a  malicious liar, 
at that?

I've never understood this. What's the payoff?

(snip)

What you're missing is the delicious irony of all this.
The person who has called more people "Liar!" than 
anyone else in Internet history got peeved that anyone
would even infer such a thing about *her*, and threw
a tantrum. She declared that she would never have any
discussions with the offending person until he either
documented his inference or retracted it. He did 
neither, and in effect *thanked* her in advance for
no longer bothering him with her "discussions."

She went fuckin' CRAZY, first backpedaling to claim
that her statement didn't mean that she couldn't 
"comment" on his posts, and then set forth to make
several posts in which she addressed him directly
and tried to provoke a reply, clearly an attempt at 
"discussion." 

In other words, the person who *specializes* in 
calling other people "liars" on this forum PROVED
HERSELF TO BE A LIAR. 

I'd call that "fun." You, caught up in your Mean
Girl crush on the only person on the forum bitchier
than you, can call it whatever you want. :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

Ah, Richard, thank you and  I LOVE LOVE LOVE that bit from Isha Upanishad 
expecially: one should enjoy it with renunciation. So yin/yang, so 
Shiva/Shakti, so light and shadow, etc.





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
 


  
On 9/23/2013 7:21 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> The idea when you get older is you probably don't need and
  often want as 
> much...
>
It's called 'down-shifting' - going back to the basics. All my
  life I've been doing
the up-shifting. This is the mime speaking.

That's what I'm going to do - sell almost everything, the cars,
  houses and the 
boat, and move to the country. Live the simple life. Downshifting
  - a move away
from materialism towards a simpler, more fulfilling life!

According to Suma Varughese, downshifting also known as "simple
  living" or 
"voluntary simplicity", is a path I want to take, away from the
  land of the 
shopping mall.

"The only thing we can do to downshift is to reduce our own wants
  and cut loose 
from the consumerist trap. What has already been seen to be the
  route to
individual happiness also becomes the route to that of the
  environment." 

Some adopt the devotional approach. Nothing is ours, for all is
  God's according 
to Swami Shantanand Saraswati,  'The Man Who Wanted to Meet God': 

"The Isha Upanishad says that the universe is permeated by the
  Absolute. 
Whatever one sees in creation, whatever moves one should use it
  fully and enjoy
this absolute everywhere, but one should enjoy it with
  renunciation. One should 
not try to hold it or covet it. One need not try to possess it. 

Enjoy it and give it up."

http://www.lifepositive.com/writers/Suma_Varughese.asp


  
>Nothing wrong with Social Security.  But there is something wrong with 
>foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they were 
>working.  What were they smoking when they did that?  it actually isn't 
>feasible.  Times were booming and the idiots you elected (regardless of the 
>aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea when you get older is you 
>probably don't need and often want as much.  You don't need a full pension.
>
>When there are no longer full time jobs for everyone then
  you have to divvy up the jobs.  But that won't work for
  employers.  So what are you going to do, Mike?  Tell
  people to crawl away and die?  You know how that will go
  down.  They'll tell you to crawl away and die.
>
>On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
>
>  
>>We already have that *leisure society*. Ever heard of Social Security? You 
>>pay into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join that leisure 
>>society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't even have to pay into 
>>it.  Just have something wrong that prevents you from being able to work or 
>>just be the child of a parent that died and had paid into it. Heck, you can 
>>even be a single mother and have the government pay you to raise your kids. 
>>The government will find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give 
>>you a phone, free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth 
>>having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning how to 
>>make do with a little.
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Bhairitu 
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
>>
>>  
>>And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop dead. Doing 
>>what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former computer programmer 
>>waiting on you at Burger King?  At that there are not enough jobs for 
>>everybody.  I push the new leisure society where you pay people FOR NOT 
>>WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller suggested this over 50 years ago. 
>>Also many people with retirement funds used them up after unemployment ran 
>>out while looking for a job in their field.  A friend who is a very competent 
>>software engineer and college professor found himself taking Social Security 
>>at age 67 even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at 
>>age 70. America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks. On 09/23/2013 
>>12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
>>  
>>>A Christian nation:
>>>
>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html
>>> 
>>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Now this is funny- a guy thinks a Twilight book is about sex between 
werewolves.

Go figure.

If you enjoyed the Twilight movies you may want to check out AMC's The 
Walking Dead.

Based on the comic book series of the same name, AMC's The Walking Dead 
tells the
story of a small group of survivors living in the aftermath of a zombie 
apocalypse. A

Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series, Drama.

The series follows a group of survivors, led by police officer Rick 
Grimes, who are traveling
in search of a safe and secure home. However, instead of the zombies, it 
is the living who

remain that truly become the walking dead.

And guess what - The Walking Dead is not about zombies at all. LoL!

Read more:

'At AMC, Zombies Topple Network TV'
New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/ 

'The Walking Dead,' Like All Zombie Stories: ... Not About Zombies at All'
The Atlantic:
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/ 

On 9/24/2013 7:27 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> turq, I don't find the writing in the Twilight novels
> that great. But I think it's a powerful retelling of
> the archetypal story of love between an immortal and
> a mortal, between God and human for us non atheists.
> In this sense, it's a story of surrender and unity to
> something greater than ourselves. Actually I think
> most romantic love stories are, on the deepest level,
> evoking the human yearning for unity with something
> more complete than ourselves. Also with regards to
> Twilight, perhaps a retelling of Beauty and the Beast,
> another archetypal love story. Maybe it's not an
> accident that the heroine is called Bella and the
> hero Edward calls himself a monster. Hopefully the
> archetypal aspects are also getting through to the
> teen audiences.

I can hardly speak as an expert, having made my
way through the first novel only because someone
was begging me to. It was like pulling my own teeth.

I later found criticisms of it that echoed what I
was feeling as I read. FAR from "archetypal" or
"mythic," I found it to be the literary counterpart
of those creepy clubs in high schools where they
talk guys and gals into wearing "virginity rings."

It was the mindset of the 1950s, with vampires and
the dangers of getting close to them taking the
place of the dangers of...uh...SEX. It was preaching
"sublimation," and resisting of natural desires, and
trying to elevate those things as if they were noble
and wonderful. I didn't feel that was an appropriate
message for teenagers, so I wasn't a fan.

But obviously, tastes vary. What surprises me about
the whole "Twilight" thang are the number of *older*
women who fixate on it.

> 
> From: turquoiseb 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:53 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad
>
>
>
> Â
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> >
> > Seraphita, I think both CS Lewis and the listener are right.
> > Continuing the food analogy, it's as if an essential nutrient
> > has been missing from the diet for a long time and now the
> > person is overindulging to make up for that deficit. But what
> > is the nutrient that's being so feverishly sought via the porn
> > industry? This helps me understand a little: my favorite
> > tantric teacher David Deida once said that to a straight man,
> > the female body is the most beautiful thing in the world.
> > Anyway, we women aren't hardwired the same visual way
> > but I think a parallel hunger in women shows up in the
> > popularity of romance novels and mushy love songs and
> > chick flicks.
>
> As an example of the creative uses of "context shifting" I
> wrote about in my last post, this reminded me of a recent
> article quoting author Stephen King on the sad (in his eyes)
> popularity of "tweenager porn."
>
> 
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/sep/21/stephen-king-twilight-tweenage-pornÂ 

>
> I agree with him completely, at least about "Twilight."
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle

2013-09-24 Thread Jason


> > Jason wrote:
> >
> > You state that Kelvin's statement is inherently
> > > self-invalidating?

> --- "waspaligap"  wrote:
>
> Well, yes. He makes a claim (an epistemological claim).
> Let's call that claim "K". According to K,  "when you
> cannot express it (i.e. some claim) in precise
> mathematical  terms, your knowledge of it, is of a meagre
> and unsatisfactory kind".
>
> But as is obvious, K is not expressed in mathematical
> terms. From which it follows that according to K, K "is of
> a meagre and unsatisfactory kind" (whatever that means -
> but it seems unlikely to allow for K being true).

> > If mathematics is the language of the universe, even
> > that can't explain the Qualia aspect of the universe.
> > Judy posted a youtube link on this a while back.

> I'd agree with you there.


> > Which means Maths is a process and not the end in
> > itself?

> I'm not sure what you mean. Does anyone think that Maths
> is an end in itself? However what does interest me very
> much is the mystery of mathematics. We live in an age of
> science. For many it is a substitute for religion. It's
> true that some sciences are more equal than others. So the
> iffy ones such as economics, climate science, and
> psychology bask in reflected glory from physics and
> chemistry. Yet the foundation of it all seems to be
> mathematics. But do we even know what mathematics is? What
> are mathematical "discoveries"? What are we discovering?
> Where does the necessity of mathematical truth come from?


> > Could you rephrase Godel in a little more easier way?

> I doubt it! Godel's proof, like quantum indeterminacy,
> seems to point to something most peculiar, but no one can
> quite agree about what that is (or means). But perhaps we
> can just return to the logical positivists that were
> referred to earlier in the thread...
>
> I'd suggest that many folks who idealise science have in
> their mind some loose form of logical positivism (either
> explicit or implicit). Like this:
>
> Q: What makes science work?
>
> A: The experimental method
>
> Q: But why does the experimental method work?
>
> A: Because we test our theories against experience
>
> Q: What do you mean by experience?
>
> A: The evidence of our senses
>
> Q: What is sense data?
>
> A: The images in our brain
>
> Q: What other types of knowledge are there?
>
> A: That's all there is
>
> Q: So what about Logic and Mathematics? They're not sense
> data!
>
> A: They just describe the relations between the concepts
> and symbols we use to refer to sense data.

Thanks Paligap. Sorry for the delayed reply. My gardener who
worked for me for more than 15 years died. The very next day
a 27 year old widow with 3 small children arrived to work.
She is a total orphan with nobody in the world.  Her husband
died in a mining accident.

Anyway coming to the thread, Your point is brilliant. So
Logic and Mathematics are both abstract intangibles. They
only describe the relationship between concepts and symbol.

I remember physicist Max Tegmark stating that at the most
fundamental level, there are only numbers. Does that mean
the unified field is something intangible?  Nirguna means
"no qualities whatsoever".

Would you call Buddhism, a 'solipsistic reductionism' or
lets say 'nihilistic reductionism'?



> The trouble with this idea is that the work of Russell and
> Frege in the twentieth century seemed to show that
> mathematics could not be reduced to logic (simple,
> self-evident tautologies). Furthermore, maths seems to
> result in bizarre, counter-intuitive "discoveries" (such
> as Cantor's proof that some infinities are larger than
> others). So the point of Godel is that he appears to add
> more spice to this pot with his incompleteness theorem.
>
> If Cantor's discovery does not come from the evidence of
> his (our) senses, and if it doesn't simply represent the
> manipulation of self-evident axioms. what on earth's going
> on?
>
> Mysterianism rules!
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Jason, your comment about unisex dress code kind of jumped out at me as did 
your linking that to an egalitarian society. Actually I'm still kind of baffled 
by it so don't even know what to ask except: can you say more?





 From: Jason 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad
 


  

The Chinese philosophy which speaks of Yin-Yang, two equal 
energies mutually balancing each other is a far superior 
philosophy to western philosophy and certain aspects of 
indian philosophy.

Seience itself says that male and female are equals but 
different.

Yoga is essentialy balance, ie life within parameters.

Any society or culture that is imbalanced will eventually 
destroy itself.  Nature hates imbalances and always tries to 
reach an equilibrium.  I have always believed that an unisex 
dresscode in public spaces, is an important way to bring in 
a truly egalitarian society.

"If a republic is small, it is destroyed by a foreign force; 
if it is large, it is destroyed by an internal vice."

~French philosopher, Montesquieu


> --- "s3raphita"  wrote:
> 
> Ah, yes! C.S. Lewis and Mere Christianity. The book was  
> originally a series of talks Lewis gave on BBC Radio in  
> the 1940s. At one point he brought up the delicate topic  
> of sex. Lewis maintained that in his youth he had been all 
> in favour of a "natural"attitude towards sexual matters  
> but - he said - surely contemporary attitudes towards sex 
> were anything but "natural". There was something  
> positively diseased about them. As an example, Lewis asked 
> us to consider a striptease show. What are we make of such 
> an exhibition? Well, he said, imagine you had arrived in a 
> strange country where you discovered that the inhabitants 
> were in the habit of paying to gather in front of a  
> display of food that was hidden from view. Then, slowly,  
> the appetising meal was revealed to the gaze of the  
> citizens. Wouldn't you then conclude that something had 
> gone seriously wrong with the appetites of the denizens of 
> this imaginary nation? Well, isn't the same true of our  
> attitudes towards sex? We have a diseased approach, he  
> concluded.
> 
> A listener to the programme later wrote in to say: if I  
> came across a country such as you describe I would assume 
> that the people were starving. What a splendid response!  
> The implication being that men frequent strip shows  
> because they are sex-starved.
> 
> Now take a look around you at the 24/7 porn culture we  
> inhabit. Was Lewis right or the anonymous listener? 
> 
> > --- Pundister  wrote:
> > 
> > "In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis calls pride 'The Great 
> > Sin' for it 'has been the chief cause of misery in 
> > every nation and every family since the world began'¦ it 
> > was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride 
> > leads to every other vice.' We see in Walter' case that 
> > it is his pride' 'an unwillingness to accept normal 
> > treatment, a refusal to be a charity case even when 
> > faced with his own impending death' that starts him on  
> > the path toward manufacturing meth. Pride is the  
> > catalyst that leads to all of Walter's other sins."
> > 
> > Read more:
> > 
> > 'The Theology of Breaking Bad'
> > http://www.fare-forward.com/the-theology-of-breaking-bad/

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-24 Thread awoelflebater

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad

well turq, it turns out that Stephanie Meyers is a Mormon so maybe you are 
right about her attitude towards teen sex. I still appreciate its archetypal 
elements. Another one: the heroine torn between her immortal aspect as 
symbolized by the vampire and her animal aspect as symbolized by Jacob, the 
werewolf.

 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> turq, I don't find the writing in the Twilight novels 
> that great. But I think it's a powerful retelling of 
> the archetypal story of love between an immortal and 
> a mortal, between God and human for us non atheists. 
> In this sense, it's a story of surrender and unity to 
> something greater than ourselves. Actually I think 
> most romantic love stories are, on the deepest level, 
> evoking the human yearning for unity with something 
> more complete than ourselves. Also with regards to 
> Twilight, perhaps a retelling of Beauty and the Beast, 
> another archetypal love story. Maybe it's not an 
> accident that the heroine is called Bella and the 
> hero Edward calls himself a monster. Hopefully the 
> archetypal aspects are also getting through to the 
> teen audiences.

I can hardly speak as an expert, having made my
way through the first novel only because someone
was begging me to. It was like pulling my own teeth.

I later found criticisms of it that echoed what I
was feeling as I read. FAR from "archetypal" or
"mythic," I found it to be the literary counterpart
of those creepy clubs in high schools where they
talk guys and gals into wearing "virginity rings."

It was the mindset of the 1950s, with vampires and
the dangers of getting close to them taking the 
place of the dangers of...uh...SEX. It was preaching 
"sublimation," and resisting of natural desires, and 
trying to elevate those things as if they were noble 
and wonderful. I didn't feel that was an appropriate 
message for teenagers, so I wasn't a fan. 

But obviously, tastes vary. What surprises me about
the whole "Twilight" thang are the number of *older*
women who fixate on it. 

> 
>  From: turquoiseb 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:53 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Theology of Breaking Bad
> 
> 
> 
> Â  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Seraphita, I think both CS Lewis and the listener are right. 
> > Continuing the food analogy, it's as if an essential nutrient 
> > has been missing from the diet for a long time and now the 
> > person is overindulging to make up for that deficit. But what 
> > is the nutrient that's being so feverishly sought via the porn 
> > industry? This helps me understand a little: my favorite 
> > tantric teacher David Deida once said that to a straight man, 
> > the female body is the most beautiful thing in the world. 
> > Anyway, we women aren't hardwired the same visual way 
> > but I think a parallel hunger in women shows up in the 
> > popularity of romance novels and mushy love songs and 
> > chick flicks. 
> 
> As an example of the creative uses of "context shifting" I
> wrote about in my last post, this reminded me of a recent
> article quoting author Stephen King on the sad (in his eyes)
> popularity of "tweenager porn."
> 
> http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/sep/21/stephen-king-twilight-tweenage-pornÂ
>  
> 
> I agree with him completely, at least about "Twilight."
>

Judy, since you're still confused, I'm asking what you meant by: one doesn't 
know whether to laugh or cry. 

 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Share struggled: 

Judy, why is that? What are you confused about?

I believe I said one doesn't know whether to laugh or cry.

Are your beliefs so set in stone?

Which beliefs would those be, Share?

 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Share observed: 

emptybill, some view Jesus and Christianity as a step in the evolution of 
religion.

One truly doesn't know whether to laugh or cry.

Just to reply for my grandfather's sake, not Bob's or #2 Bitch's :-),
he did work with Einstein, as did half of the theoretical physicists
in America, on the *theoretical* side of the physics involved in
the Manhattan Project. Neither of them were ever in New Mexico
to my knowledge, and neither ever worked on the practical side
of blowing people up. Their theoretical work was read and utilized
by the build-it guys. Which would have suited my grandfather
just fine, because he was a Quaker.  :-)

As for the Bobster, both Curtis and I wrote him off long ago, and
nothing he has posted since (the little of it I've skimmed, that is)
has convinced me that anything has changed. If he's you're idea
of an intellectual giant, I have even less respect for you than before.

As for your dreams of me, that's just fuckin' pathetic. I *never*
dream of anyone on FFL. I don't like interacting with many of
them on the physical plane, much less fucking up my dreams
with them.  :-)

Buh-bye...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
wrote:

Ann opines:
>
> Bob Prices' later post which I just read before
> bothering to respond to you is FUN. Maybe you
> better go and read that a few times, Pinocchio.
> Now that man can deliver and he often has his
> facts straight. You don't want to mess with him,
> and you know it. If you want to give me some
> real FUN, I would love to see you engage him
> one on one - go ahead, I really, really dare you.

Not gonna happen. Bob's a troll, and a grudge-
holding one at that. If you're looking for
someone to knock you out of the #2 Bitch position,
he *is* a likely candidate, but I'm not gonna
interact with him. If that's your idea of fun,
you go for it. :-)
Dear  Barry, I was afraid you were going to decline the opportunity to
engage  with Mr Price. Of course, I don't blame you. But I am in a
position of  "safety" because he is an official member of the MGC of
which I am also a  member so he has to be nice to  me but if I wasn't in
the same club I wouldn't take him up on any  intellectual or moral or
experiential challenges either. You are a wise  man, Barry; my advice is
to try and stay clear of Bob. He seems to be  one of those underhanded
types who does his research, can back it up and  is not afraid to let
you know when you've made an error. And he often  accompanies his
'corrections' with funny youtube videos to embellish his  point. All in
all a formidable character and if I'm not careful he will  probably try
and move his way into the top MG position of which I am  rather fond so
that would irk me a little if he were to usurp me in any  way.
Now,  if you change your mind about engagement with BP, I will be the
first  to congratulate you on your decision and I would love to purchase
front  row tickets. (BTW, I think you were a tad off base to have called
him a  "troll". That term is just so, well, pedestrian.)
BTW,  I had a dream about you the night before last. You were rather
loving  in that dream although it did not involve sex. But you did
insist on  cuddling up to me and I was wondering if you were including
me in some  lucid dream experiment so I went along with it at the time.
Then, I  realized the time differences between our countries would not
have made  that likely (as likely as that scenario in the dream actually
was, which  wasn't very).

The insights of Shakya the Muni, the historical Buddha, have been 
conveyed to us through the
minds of and writings of persons who interpreted the Middle Way as they 
understood it. It is
obvious that the practical applications of the Shakya's principles have 
been applied in ways that
he might not entirely approve.

"A teaching is given from one level of consciousness; it is received on 
quite another." - MMY

When you analyze the TM technique with the main principle of the Shakya, 
namely simple
meditation, it is easy to see a parallel in the teaching.

The Shakya is reported to have said:

"I call to mind how when the Sakyan my father was ploughing, I sat in 
the cool shade of the
rose-apple tree, remote from desires and ill conditions, and entered 
upon and abode in the First
Musing, that is accompanied by thought directed and sustained, which is 
born of solitude, full
of zestful ease. And then I said, 'Is this the Way to the Wisdom?' And 
on that occasion there
came to me the consciousness that follows thought composed, 'Yes, this 
is the Way to the
Wisdom.'" - (M.N. i.242-1)

Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

Judy, I don't know what you're talking about here. I thought the thread was 
about you obsessing on *if true* and ignoring all the great stuff Xeno wrote 
yesterday. What does turq have to do with it?! 

 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

Barry is lying; everyone who has been following this knows he's lying. He knows 
they know he's lying. Even Share knows he's lying.

Somebody please explain to me what the point is. What does a person get out of 
lying when they know they aren't deceiving anybody? What do they get out of 
advertising that they're a liar, over and over again (six times, so far, in 
this case)? Why would they want to be known as a liar? And a  malicious liar, 
at that?

I've never understood this. What's the payoff?

(snip)

What you're missing is the delicious irony of all this.
The person who has called more people "Liar!" than 
anyone else in Internet history got peeved that anyone
would even infer such a thing about *her*, and threw
a tantrum. She declared that she would never have any
discussions with the offending person until he either
documented his inference or retracted it. He did 
neither, and in effect *thanked* her in advance for
no longer bothering him with her "discussions."

She went fuckin' CRAZY, first backpedaling to claim
that her statement didn't mean that she couldn't 
"comment" on his posts, and then set forth to make
several posts in which she addressed him directly
and tried to provoke a reply, clearly an attempt at 
"discussion." 

In other words, the person who *specializes* in 
calling other people "liars" on this forum PROVED
HERSELF TO BE A LIAR. 

I'd call that "fun." You, caught up in your Mean
Girl crush on the only person on the forum bitchier
than you, can call it whatever you want. :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Enoch Soames - the time traveller

[FairfieldLife] Setting up a Home Office

Lot's of professionals use Microsoft Office as their primary personal 
productivity tool.
Some people depend on Microsoft Word to make a living at work.  I've 
used MS Office

since 1994 when Windows 95 came out.

Now we've got a real home office equipped with workstations, scanners, 
printers, and
a fax machine. And, a broadband connection. On a cler day I can almost 
see the Eagle

Ford Shale. We are about a mile from George Straight's ranch.

We started out working for ScanCode using WordPerfect, Quattro Pro, and 
Paradox.
I still think WP is the perfect word processor. Later we switched over 
to MS and started

using MS Word, Outlook, and MS Access.

According to what I've read, the people at Oracle didn't want to pay 
Microsoft millions
to install MS Office on their 40,000 workstations, so they bought Sun 
and invented the

Oracle OpenOffice.

So we are trying out the Apache OpenOffice which is still a little 
buggy; and Google
QuickOffice, which is not the same thing as Google Docs. QuickOffice is 
nice and you

can get 10 GB of free storage space!

The only problem is that the Google app is located on the cloud, so 
you're dependent

on having a broadband connection. Go figure.

Apache OpenOffice:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/reviews/

Google QuickOffice:
http://www.cbsnews.com/get-10gb-free-on-google-drive-with-quickoffice/

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Judy, why is that? What are you confused about? Are your beliefs so set in 
stone?

 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad

Share observed: 

emptybill, some view Jesus and Christianity as a step in the evolution of 
religion.

One truly doesn't know whether to laugh or cry.

[FairfieldLife] Get a job, was America the Beautiful

On 9/24/2013 8:05 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
> Who's in charge of that and who decides who gets a job > and who goes
> on *leisure pay*?
>
It's all a matter of placement and positioning.

One day I met a guy who worked at Walmart.

The guy said he had worked in the U.S. Air Force for 22 years and then he
worked the night shift at the Post Office as a mail sorter for 20 years. 
So,

when he retired at age 63 he was already a double dipper - two retirement
pensions!

And now he was making $9.00 an hour as a part time Walmart door
greeter. Go figure.

Another guy I know got a job out there in the Eagle Ford Shale driving a
water truck for $18 an hour - and the truck had AC! He moved up to
heavy equipment operator at $23 an hour in a week.

A gal I know got a job out in China Grove waiting on tables at the Road
House in the Eagle Ford Shale - her cash tips are sometimes more than
$100 after serving breakfast from 6:00 AM to 11:00 AM.

Then she goes home to count her money and watch TV. LoL!

One guy I know sells cars for Tom Benson on the south side of town
and he sells GMC Sierras all day long - he can't keep them on the shelf.
He also said he sells least a couple of two ton trucks every week too.

The guy is driving a new Corvette!

On 9/24/2013 8:05 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

Not sure what you're talking about here. What 100% pension are you 
talking about? SS was never meant to be a *pension*, it's a supplement 
to whatever savings and pension you were supposed to have worked for 
while paying into SS. Divvy up jobs? Who's in charge of that and who 
decides who gets a job and who goes on *leisure pay*? No longer enough 
full time jobs? Maybe we should ask why and what we can do to create 
them and what we have done to diminish them. Obamacare is a good 
example of why we are having fewer full time jobs. Work thirty hours 
or more and your employer has to provide insurance which they may or 
may not be able to afford. When 10-20 million people cross our 
boarders illegally because *all they want is a job*, can we say there 
aren't enough jobs to go around? Oh, I know, some jobs are just below 
our *dignity*. I remember a day when taking public assistance was 
below our dignity. If someone thinks they are too good for a certain 
kind of job that is available, maybe they just aught to have their ego 
busted so they can see just how valuable they really are.

*From:* Bhairitu 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 5:21 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
Nothing wrong with Social Security.  But there is something wrong with 
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they 
were working.  What were they smoking when they did that?  it actually 
isn't feasible.  Times were booming and the idiots you elected 
(regardless of the aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea 
when you get older is you probably don't need and often want as much.  
You don't need a full pension.When there are no longer full time jobs 
for everyone then you have to divvy up the jobs.  But that won't work 
for employers.  So what are you going to do, Mike?  Tell people to 
crawl away and die? You know how that will go down.  They'll tell you 
to crawl away and die.On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
We already have that *leisuresociety*. Ever heard of Social Security? 
You pay into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join 
that leisure society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't 
even have to pay into it.  Just have something wrong that prevents 
you from being able to work or just be the child of a parent that 
died and had paid into it. Heck, you can even be a single mother and 
have the government pay you to raise your kids. The government will 
find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give you a phone, 
free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth 
having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning 
how to make do with a little.

*From:* Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop 
dead. Doing what? How would you like a near aspergers like former 
computer programmer waiting on you at Burger King?  At that there are 
not enough jobs for everybody.  I push the new leisure society where 
you pay people FOR NOT WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller 
suggested this over 50 years ago. Also many people with retirement 
funds used them up after unemployment ran out while looking for a job 
in their field.  A friend who is a very competent software engineer 
and college professor found himself taking Social Security at age 67 
even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at 
age 70. America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks. On 
0

emptybill, some view Jesus and Christianity as a step in the evolution of 
religion. And a Pisces step at that. Agape. Unconditional love. Can seem sappy 
when compared to more robust expressions of love. OTOH, with regards to Adam 
and Eve there is a similar concept of "oh happy fall." Meaning that if they had 
not fallen, Christ would not have incarnated. Still not as robust as Satan's 
willingness to be, out of his unconquerable love for God, separate from God FOR 
ALL ETERNITY. Surely he must know that God's embrace encompasses even that!





 From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Theology of Breaking Bad
 


  
C.S. Lewis' quote - blah, blah, I'm so bad ...

This is just an iteration of the old protestant/roman catholic
theology of sin, guilt, redemption ... "o god, o god, I know 
I done wrong but (gulf, gulp, sweat, sweat) now I wanna 
change."

Such b.s. 

This distorted view of human nature/god's nature 
goes back to the sniveling confessions of Augustine of Hippo.

However the "pride of the evil one" was much more colorfully 
described by Milton in "Paradise Lost". 

However, "Paradise Lost" is just another iteration of the old 
theology.

More interesting is the Sufi revelation ... that Lucifer fell from 
his exalted angelic station because he so ecstatically loved 
God that he refused God's command to bow down to God's 
own vicar ... the earthy Adam. 

The reason? He could worship no one other than his chosen 
deity, his Ishta Devatah ... yhvh. 

The consequence? Out of unconquerable love, he subsists
upon the last command of this true love  "be gone!"

The Sufi's insist this is a much closer to the truth of gnosis 
than the pathetic ... "Won't you come to the weeping Jesus
in your wickedly defiled heart? ... You stinking pile of filth!"

 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


"In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis calls pride “The Great Sin” for it 
“has been the chief cause of misery in every nation and every family 
since the world began… it was through Pride that the devil became the 
devil: Pride leads to every other vice.” We see in Walter’s case that it 
is his pride—an unwillingness to accept normal treatment, a refusal to 
be a charity case even when faced with his own impending death—that 
starts him on the path toward manufacturing meth. Pride is the catalyst 
that leads to all of Walter’s other sins."

Read more:

'The Theology of Breaking Bad'
http://www.fare-forward.com/the-theology-of-breaking-bad/

RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

[FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-24 Thread turquoiseb

You're a troll, too, in posts like this. 

You're seeking a reactive response from me, as if 
you've said something that (in your mind) "struck 
home." In other words, you're Doing A Judy. 

Bob's not worth pissing on, much less replying to.
If you're hoping to emulate him, you're doing a 
good job so far.  :-)

Speaking of trolls, however, have you noticed that
you and a number of other people are now going 
somewhat crazy trying to "get Barry," simply 
because I deigned to reply to some of you? Maybe
it's time to go back to ignoring the lot of you. 
It'd be better for your collective mental health. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> Listen to me carefully, Uncle Tantra.  It took years for
> Judy and et all, to find out your true colors.
> 
> Bob Price found that out in just a few minutes time.!!
> 
> Would you admit that the intellect of Bob Price is far
> superior to anybody else here?  You got what you deserved
> Unc.
> 
> Bob Price would outwit Rama Lenz in an intellectual argument
> any day.
> 
> Please don't fudge the issue at hand by calling him a troll.
> He isn't one. Everybody knows that.  I want you to look at
> him in the eye, and admit your error.
> 
> 
> > > Ann opines:
> > >
> > > Bob Prices' later post which I just read before
> > > bothering to respond to you is FUN. Maybe you
> > > better go and read that a few times, Pinocchio.
> > > Now that man can deliver and he often has his
> > > facts straight. You don't want to mess with him,
> > > and you know it. If you want to give me some
> > > real FUN, I would love to see you engage him
> > > one on one - go ahead, I really, really dare you.
> > >
> > --- "turquoiseb"  writes:
> >
> > Not gonna happen. Bob's a troll, and a grudge-
> > holding one at that. If you're looking for
> > someone to knock you out of the #2 Bitch position,
> > he *is* a likely candidate, but I'm not gonna
> > interact with him. If that's your idea of fun,
> > you go for it. :-)
> >
>

Listen to me carefully, Uncle Tantra.  It took years for
Judy and et all, to find out your true colors.

Bob Price found that out in just a few minutes time.!!

Would you admit that the intellect of Bob Price is far
superior to anybody else here?  You got what you deserved
Unc.

Bob Price would outwit Rama Lenz in an intellectual argument
any day.

Please don't fudge the issue at hand by calling him a troll.
He isn't one. Everybody knows that.  I want you to look at
him in the eye, and admit your error.

> > Ann opines:
> >
> > Bob Prices' later post which I just read before
> > bothering to respond to you is FUN. Maybe you
> > better go and read that a few times, Pinocchio.
> > Now that man can deliver and he often has his
> > facts straight. You don't want to mess with him,
> > and you know it. If you want to give me some
> > real FUN, I would love to see you engage him
> > one on one - go ahead, I really, really dare you.
> >
> --- "turquoiseb"  writes:
>
> Not gonna happen. Bob's a troll, and a grudge-
> holding one at that. If you're looking for
> someone to knock you out of the #2 Bitch position,
> he *is* a likely candidate, but I'm not gonna
> interact with him. If that's your idea of fun,
> you go for it. :-)
>

Steve bleated:



Oh, that was a classic.  Wait, do you hear something?  Kind of like someone 
running ready to barge in here.

Yup. I wasn't trying to justify Ravi's lie in either of the posts Jason linked 
to. I never tried to justify it and in fact condemned it in other posts.

Good.  Glad to hear that Judy.  That would have been a tough one to spin.  
Guess my recollection was a little off.

Seems both Jason and Steve are a little confused about what actually went on 
during that episode.



Ravi told a plain lie to Curtis that he bought drink to a 
minor. You tried to justifiy it by saying, Curtis was 
"projecting". 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/300480
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/300544

Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Help Desk, was End of the Bread Box on Wheels

See Richard, even what you put in the Subject window made me LOL. The young 
fellow at Panasonic was very polite. But why why why did they want my street 
address which is not my credit card billing address? NSA now hooked into Help 
Desks?! Making Help Desks even more fun!





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:42 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL Help Desk, was End of the Bread Box on Wheels
 


  
You really told off Share, good work!

I'm glad to see the FFL Help Desk pull together to help each other
  - it's 
almost heartwarming. LoL!

One guy I know, who is a Network Engineer at a local community
  college,
got Help Desk Duty one day, but he was so rude he got put back on
  cable
management the next day - the college president sent an email to
  the IT
director that said:

"DO NOT EVER PUT THIS GUY ON THE HELP DESK AGAIN".

Share is lucky she had a player with a pin hole on the front - one
  time
my Pioneer got a disk stuck in it and I had to take the whole top
  off to
get the disk out. Go figure.

So after that, I bought a Technics five-disc player with a lid on
  top that
lifts up like a record player dust cover. Sweet!

On 9/23/2013 9:18 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
> 
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>
>Doc and Xeno, thank you! I did it! And guess what the key was? A regular sized 
>paper clip didn't work. I had to get a large paper clip to get the tray to 
>partially open.  
>
>
>Thanks boys. This was obviously an operation fraught with high tech angles and 
>the need for a PhD in engineering. Share couldn't have done it without you. 
>Share, how do you get out of bed in the morning and actually manage to make it 
>to the toilet to take a piss? On top of that, find your toothbrush and figure 
>out how to get toothpaste on the actual bristles? I mean, the list goes on and 
>on for how complex it must be for you just to make it past the first 15 
>minutes of wakefulness without calling 911.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "doctordumbass@..." 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:39 PM
>Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels
> 
>
>
>  
>Re: stuck DVD
>
>
>This link has every suggestion I could think of:
>
>
>http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/209005-Panasonic-DVD-S47-Disc-Stuck-In-Machine
> 
>
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>noozguru or anyone, a dvd is stuck in the dvd player. I called Panasonic but 
>>they put me on terminal hold. It's a library dvd too! Any ideas? thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Bhairitu 
>>To: FairfieldLife  
>>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:01 AM
>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels
>> 
>>
>>
>>  
>>I used to call VW buses "bread boxes on wheels". I winced everytime I 
>>had to ride in
  one. I had two
  friends who owned
  them. I thought
  they 
>>were about the
  most unsafe
  vehicle on the
  road given you
  only had a thin 
>>wall of metal
  between you and an
  oncoming. Those
  who survived owing
  had 
>>sheer luck. Of
  course I myself
  owned Ralph
  Nader's number one
  unsafe 
>>vehicles, a
  Corvair. Although
  I only owned it
  for a few months
  when it 
>>was stolen and
  totaled.
>>
>>I didn't know that
  WV still made the
  bus but they are
  still being made 
>>in Brazil until
  the end of
  December.
>>http://www.nbcnews.com/business/vws-hippie-hauler-ending-its-long-strange-trip-4B11231364
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

[FairfieldLife] RE: Projecting (Re: Surviving Whole Foods)