date:20141113

Questioning why the sensational book had attracted so much attention, he 
said: One uncharitable answer would be to suggest that there is now such a 
high degree of religious illiteracy in society that people lack the rigour to 
tackle such spurious claims in the same way they would if the author had 
written a book saying the moon was made of blue cheese.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the way!

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Share, 

 Here is the sound.  Can anyone figure it out?
 

 Apparently if you play it backwards you can faintly hear the words Do not 
land, or we will be forced to destroy your puny planet. Whatever that might 
mean










What I can't understand is someone so addicted to New Age garbage and 
weak-minded thinking that, faced with two of the greatest achievements in the 
history of man (the Mars lander and this comet lander), they're looking for 
something more Woo Woo to focus and obsess on. 

People like JohnR and Nabby just leave me astonished. What *happened* to them 
that makes them think (or, more accurately, NOT think) the way they do? You 
would think that they'd be *embarrassed* to show people the ways that their 
minds work (or fail to), but they actually seem to be proud of it.  

I think I get where it comes from, I briefly suffered from this need to make 
more out of the world than there is when I was a kid and was exploring the 
world outside of me seriously for the first time. I remember it as being like 
discovering secret knowledge that the stuffy establishment were too blind to 
see, or something that linked in more with the sci-fi I loved than the BBC 
documentaries provided. 
 

 We could call it Erich Von Daniken syndrome, because it was his books I 
found in the library that really made me wonder about these alleged esoteric 
truths. It had to be true or they wouldn't publish it, right? But he did travel 
to amazing places and got me hooked on the ancient world even though everything 
he said was total nonsense, as I found out from learning how proper 
archaeologists go about their work.
 

 Crop circles did me a big favour too because it was photo on the front of the 
Fortean Times magazine that made me buy it and that's what started a somewhat 
more realistic approach because they would actually look at weird things 
objectively to see if they were true.
 

 This Examiner website does John no favours, they don't seem to have any brake 
on finding things out before they leap to the fantastical as they have no 
scientific way of evaluating and grading quality of evidence. I think it spoils 
the sense of wonder and that's a shame.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the way!

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

Share,

Here is the sound.  Can anyone figure it out?

Apparently if you play it backwards you can faintly hear the words Do not 
land, or we will be forced to destroy your puny planet. Whatever that might 
mean

What I can't understand is someone so addicted to New Age garbage and 
weak-minded thinking that, faced with two of the greatest achievements in the 
history of man (the Mars lander and this comet lander), they're looking for 
something more Woo Woo to focus and obsess on. 

People like JohnR and Nabby just leave me astonished. What *happened* to them 
that makes them think (or, more accurately, NOT think) the way they do? You 
would think that they'd be *embarrassed* to show people the ways that their 
minds work (or fail to), but they actually
seem to be proud of it.  

I think I get where it comes from, I briefly suffered from this need to make 
more out of the world than there is when I was a kid and was exploring the 
world outside of me seriously for the first time. I remember it as being like 
discovering secret knowledge that the stuffy establishment were too blind to 
see, or something that linked in more with the sci-fi I loved than the BBC 
documentaries provided. 

We could call it Erich Von Daniken syndrome, because it was his books I found 
in the library that really made me wonder about these alleged esoteric truths. 
It had to be true or they wouldn't publish it, right? But he did travel to 
amazing places and got me hooked on the ancient world even though everything he 
said was total nonsense, as I found out from learning how proper archaeologists 
go about their work.

Crop circles did me a big favour too because it was photo on the front of the 
Fortean Times magazine that made me buy it and that's what started a somewhat 
more realistic approach because they would actually look at weird things 
objectively to see if they were true.

This Examiner website does John no favours, they don't seem to have any brake 
on finding things out before they leap to the fantastical as they have no 
scientific way of evaluating and grading quality of evidence. I think it spoils 
the sense of wonder and that's a shame.

JohnR and Nabby are perpetual VICTIMS to sites like the Examiner or YouTube 
because they *cater* to people like them -- guys who have never had anything 
going for them but who are desperate to be perceived as being special or 
knowing things that others do not. It's like these sites they repost articles 
from have a big, blinking neon sign that only losers can see that says, in big 
invisible letters: NEED SOMETHING TO MAKE YOU FEEL MORE SELF-IMPORTANT? READ 
THIS. SHARE IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS.

Also, one of the things I've noticed in non-FFL, non-TM former friends of mine 
who have gone all Newage (rhymes with sewage) and WooWoo themselves is that 
they tend to only talk to people like themselves. That is, those whose minds 
are so weak that they'd actually be *impressed* by the kinds of things they 
post. They repost articles claiming that the guvmint knows that aliens exist 
and are hiding the truth about it because they're used to getting replies from 
idiots like themselves who say, Oh...YOU know the truth about this, too? Good 
for you. Aren't we so SPECIAL? Aren't we so much BETTER than those who don't 
know this stuff? 

What they don't seem to realize is that their more sensible friends stopped 
reading what they post and stopped replying to them years ago. The only 
followers they have left on FB or wherever are people who are just as whacked 
out as they are.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the way!

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Share, 

 Here is the sound.  Can anyone figure it out?

 Apparently if you play it backwards you can faintly hear the words Do not 
land, or we will be forced to destroy your puny planet. Whatever that might 
mean

What I can't understand is someone so addicted to New Age garbage and 
weak-minded thinking that, faced with two of the greatest achievements in the 
history of man (the Mars lander and this comet lander), they're looking for 
something more Woo Woo to focus and obsess on. 

People like JohnR and Nabby just leave me astonished. What *happened* to them 
that makes them think (or, more accurately, NOT think) the way they do? You 
would think that they'd be *embarrassed* to show people the ways that their 
minds work (or fail to), but they actually seem to be proud of it.  

I think I get where it comes from, I briefly suffered from this need to make 
more out of the world than there is when I was a kid and was exploring the 
world outside of me seriously for the first time. I remember it as being like 
discovering secret knowledge that the stuffy establishment were too blind to 
see, or something that linked in more with the sci-fi I loved than the BBC 
documentaries provided. 

 We could call it Erich Von Daniken syndrome, because it was his books I 
found in the library that really made me wonder about these alleged esoteric 
truths. It had to be true or they wouldn't publish it, right? But he did travel 
to amazing places and got me hooked on the ancient world even though everything 
he said was total nonsense, as I found out from learning how proper 
archaeologists go about their work.

 Crop circles did me a big favour too because it was photo on the front of the 
Fortean Times magazine that made me buy it and that's what started a somewhat 
more realistic approach because they would actually look at weird things 
objectively to see if they were true.

 This Examiner website does John no favours, they don't seem to have any brake 
on finding things out before they leap to the fantastical as they have no 
scientific way of evaluating and grading quality of evidence. I think it spoils 
the sense of wonder and that's a shame.

JohnR and Nabby are perpetual VICTIMS to sites like the Examiner or YouTube 
because they *cater* to people like them -- guys who have never had anything 
going for them but who are desperate to be perceived as being special or 
knowing things that others do not. It's like these sites they repost articles 
from have a big, blinking neon sign that only losers can see that says, in big 
invisible letters: NEED SOMETHING TO MAKE YOU FEEL MORE SELF-IMPORTANT? READ 
THIS. SHARE IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS.

Also, one of the things I've noticed in non-FFL, non-TM former friends of mine 
who have gone all Newage (rhymes with sewage) and WooWoo themselves is that 
they tend to only talk to people like themselves. That is, those whose minds 
are so weak that they'd actually be *impressed* by the kinds of things they 
post. They repost articles claiming that the guvmint knows that aliens exist 
and are hiding the truth about it because they're used to getting replies from 
idiots like themselves who say, Oh...YOU know the truth about this, too? Good 
for you. Aren't we so SPECIAL? Aren't we so much BETTER than those who don't 
know this stuff? 

What they don't seem to realize is that their more sensible friends stopped 
reading what they post and stopped replying to them years ago. The only 
followers they have left on FB or wherever are people who are just as whacked 
out as they are. 

I had to give up with FB sites like Mind unleashed or the open mind because 
they post such absolute drivel on a daily basis that I felt duty bound to try 
and stem the tide with a bit of reasoned argument. Trouble was everyone else 
who subscribed to them tried to correct me and every time I logged on I'd have 
to clear 20,000 posts from indignant True Believers how do you know atlantis 
didn't rise again in the year 2000? They might have hushed it up etc

 One of the promises of the internet was the democratisation of knowledge, but 
without an editor any site can be seen as being of equal value to good ones. 
Couple that with the willingness to believe and it's a recipe for disaster. 
There's probably millions going around believing that reincarnation is true, 
people are telepathic, quantum physics has proved the world is an illusion, and 
that's just from this mornings!

 But what's annoying is that it's often based on decent research that's been 
twisted to increase the woo woo. I wish someone had thought to do a study on 
the prevalence of magical thinking both before and after the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the way!






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

Share,

Here is the sound.  Can anyone figure it out?

Apparently if you play it backwards you can faintly hear the words Do 
not land, or we will be forced to destroy your puny planet. Whatever 
that might mean



What I can't understand is someone so addicted to New Age garbage and 
weak-minded thinking that, faced with two of the greatest achievements 
in the history of man (the Mars lander and this comet lander), they're 
looking for something more Woo Woo to focus and obsess on.


People like JohnR and Nabby just leave me astonished. What *happened* 
to them that makes them think (or, more accurately, NOT think) the way 
they do? You would think that they'd be *embarrassed* to show people 
the ways that their minds work (or fail to), but they actually seem to 
be proud of it.


On 11/13/2014 4:48 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

I think I get where it comes from, I briefly suffered from this need 
to make more out of the world than there is when I was a kid and was 
exploring the world outside of me seriously for the first time. I 
remember it as being like discovering secret knowledge that the stuffy 
establishment were too blind to see, or something that linked in more 
with the sci-fi I loved than the BBC documentaries provided.


We could call it Erich Von Daniken syndrome, because it was his 
books I found in the library that really made me wonder about these 
alleged esoteric truths. It had to be true or they wouldn't publish 
it, right? But he did travel to amazing places and got me hooked on 
the ancient world even though everything he said was total nonsense, 
as I found out from learning how proper archaeologists go about their 
work.


This reminds me of a fellow that, instead of enjoying a meal at a 
downtown restaurant, thought he saw a guy levitate by slowly lifting up 
off of a sofa and flying around for awhile - and the witness even posted 
this on a science site. Go figure.


Crop circles did me a big favour too because it was photo on the front 
of the Fortean Times magazine that made me buy it and that's what 
started a somewhat more realistic approach because they would actually 
look at weird things objectively to see if they were true.


It seems kind of hypocritical to criticize others when at the same time 
you both apparently believe in levitation - suspension in mid-air with 
no visible means of physical support,. Any comments?


This /E//xaminer /website does John no favours, they don't seem to 
have any brake on finding things out before they leap to the 
fantastical as they have no scientific way of evaluating and grading 
quality of evidence. I think it spoils the sense of wonder and that's 
a shame.


/I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los 
Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's 
restaurant in the wee hours of the night. - /TurquoiseB /

//
/Subject: TM is a Cult?
Author: TurquoiseB
Group: Yahoo Fairfieldife
Date: Friday, 23 May 2014
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife/yahoogroups.com/msg317597/ 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Russian news anchor trying to get through announcing Fred Phelps' death

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

/Addressing the important issues! Obviously, due to his karma, Fred 
Phelps will be reincarnated after spending nine days in the Tibetan Bardo./


On 11/13/2014 2:51 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


Even in Putin's homophobic Russia people realize how insane and 
ridiculous the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church was. This is 
great, as the news reader can't get through announcing his death 
without cracking up and speculating as to his fate in the afterlife:


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that if one 
entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the subtle. One may 
even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems is 
like an entity lodging in the system spiritually. Like a stress snag, an 
entity, like some would call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric 
of the subtle system. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck
 
 Dear FFL, 
 Culturally this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's 
teaching on negativity is really important. It did not just show up here. 
 And so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB here 
having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect what they may 
well think is their spiritual lives from what they had experienced as a culture 
of ethical negativity that was TM, so they seem to say. But yet as these guys 
wallow in their stories even years later does this not continue to bring on 
them their own negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is 
teaching here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these guys. 
It would be more better if they should be silent about these things of their 
past and not just keep dredging it up. They really should stop all this 
negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a larger collective good 
of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about the larger collective good for 
it seems that Maharishi actually was not talking about collective good or 
organizations in these early discourse but more specifically individual 
spiritual systems. I do hope that their apostate subtle systems may recover in 
field effect and come to some equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
 Sincerely, 
 -Buck 
 

 Maharishi on Negativity:
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800
 

 

 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

 Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
 
 
 

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
 
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's 
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.
 
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.
 
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think 
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking 
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities 
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.
 
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.
 
Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes 
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in 
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important.  
It is as important as daily practice of meditation.
 
In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man did some 
great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would cover his body with a 
cloth like that and will go to any village. Standing out of the village, he 
would shout out: my name is such and such, and I come from that village, and I 
happened to be doing like that and like that and like that. He would just 
announce it and go ahead, and keep on announcing from village to village.
 
And the effect was: all the people who heard him, if in their evening meetings 
with their fellow men, they talk about that, then the contention is that they 
partake of his sin and after some time he becomes pure. Just by talking about 
the sinner, the people who talk about him share his sin.
 
This is very dangerous. Someone has done something wrong and if we dwell on 
that and talk it over with someone, we have been affected by that sin and we 
spread that sin; we partake of his sin and take it upon us.
 
Anyone who has done any mistake there or there or there, we just don't speak of 
it.  Otherwise we will only be shrouding ourselves with the sins of others. 
Very important, especially now when through this Transcendental Meditation we 
are making ourselves more and more full with Being, means more and more full 
with purity, then we have to guard against this thing which is very dangerous.
 
No one thinks that if I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

“..speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of 
someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your 
heart and mind spoiled.
 
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.
 
Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes 
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in 
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important.  
It is as important as daily practice of meditation.”
 

 

 
 So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that if one 
entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the subtle. One may 
even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems is 
like an entity lodging in the system spiritually. Like a stress snag, an 
entity, like some would call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric 
of the subtle system. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck
 
 Dear FFL, 
 Culturally this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's 
teaching on negativity is really important. It did not just show up here. 
 And so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB here 
having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect what they may 
well think is their spiritual lives from what they had experienced as a culture 
of ethical negativity that was TM, so they seem to say. But yet as these guys 
wallow in their stories even years later does this not continue to bring on 
them their own negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is 
teaching here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these guys. 
It would be more better if they should be silent about these things of their 
past and not just keep dredging it up. They really should stop all this 
negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a larger collective good 
of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about the larger collective good for 
it seems that Maharishi actually was not talking about collective good or 
organizations in these early discourse but more specifically individual 
spiritual systems. I do hope that their apostate subtle systems may recover in 
field effect and come to some equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
 Sincerely, 
 -Buck 
 

 Maharishi on Negativity:
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800
 

 

 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

 Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
 
 
 

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
 
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's 
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.
 
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.
 
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think 
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking 
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities 
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.
 
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.
 
Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes 
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in 
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important.  
It is as important as daily practice of meditation.
 
In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man did some 
great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would cover his body with a 
cloth like that and will go to any village. Standing out of the village, he 
would shout out: my name is such and such, and I come from that village, and I 
happened to be doing like that and like that and like that. He would just 
announce it and go ahead, and keep on announcing from village to village.
 
And the effect was: all the people who heard him, if in their evening meetings 
with their fellow men, they talk about that, then the contention is that they 
partake of his sin and after some time he becomes

[FairfieldLife] Comet up close!

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 


You obviously never saw Maharishi in person nor listened to any of his tapes if 
you believe for an instant that he practiced what he preached about never 
entertaining negativity. That was NEVER true -- even as far back as Squaw 
Valley 1968 he couldn't talk about a competing spiritual teaching or practice 
without dumping on its teachers and everything about it. 


Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane 
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain 
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're 
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with 
reality? 




 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
So
evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that
if one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the
subtle.  One may even take on the energetics in the subtle. 
Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the
system spiritually.  Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would
call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle
system.   There is proly some truth to that. -Buck




Dear
FFL, 
Culturally
this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's teaching on
negativity is really important.  It did not just show up here.  
And
so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB
here having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect
what they may well think is their spiritual lives from what they had
experienced as a culture of ethical negativity that was TM, so they
seem to say.  But yet as these guys wallow in their stories even
years later does this not continue to bring on them their own
negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is teaching
here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these
guys.  It would be more better if they should be silent about these
things of their past and not just keep dredging it up.They really
should stop all this negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a 
larger
collective good of everyone.  Om, strike that last comment about the
larger collective good for it seems that Maharishi actually was not
talking about collective good or organizations in these early
discourse but more specifically individual spiritual systems.I do hope that 
their
apostate subtle systems may recover in field effect and come to some
equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
Sincerely,  
-Buck 

Maharishi
on Negativity:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800



https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :


Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
 

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
 
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's 
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.
 
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.
 
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think 
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking 
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities 
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.
 
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.
 
Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes 
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in 
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important.  
It is as important as daily practice of meditation.
 
In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man did some 
great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would cover his body with a 
cloth like that and will go to any village. Standing out of the village, he 
would shout out: my name is such and such, and I come from that village, and I 
happened to be doing like that and like that and like that. He would just 
announce it and go

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/13/2014 1:43 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Code novel.



/ For nearly 2,000 years, Mary Magdalene// was believed to be a 
prostitute who repented and became a disciple of Jesus, but, the truth 
about her is finally emerging. She was almost certainly not a 
prostitute, but a wealthy woman whose support helped early Christianity 
to survive.


Mary Magdalene could have been Jesus' concubine or even his wife. The 
Bible doesn't say what her realtionship was with Jesus except that she 
was a devoted follower and supporter. ///The early Gnostic Gospels have 
no hesitation describing the relationship between Mary Magdalene and Jesus.


/The death of Jesus could have been a plot to deceive the authorities. 
Maybe it was a robber that was hung on the cross and maybe Jesus escaped 
with Mary to go live in France. Go figure.


Read more:

/'Venus in Sackcloth'
by Marjorie Malvern
Penguin, 1995




That leaves the people to ask: who were the descendants of Jesus and 
Mary, and where are they now?



Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiah would 
completely change the present Christian theology.  As such, I believe 
the orthodoxy would completely reject the validity of the manuscript.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of 
his children, according to a translation of an ancient manuscript.


http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow in,
even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never heard Maharishi speak about
other spiritual paths.

From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others +
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa.

You obviously never saw Maharishi in person nor listened to any of his tapes if
you believe for an instant that he practiced what he preached about never
entertaining negativity. That was NEVER true -- even as far back as Squaw
Valley 1968 he couldn't talk about a competing spiritual teaching or practice
without dumping on its teachers and everything about it.

Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with
reality?

From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding
Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

DearFFL, Culturallythis particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's
teaching onnegativity is really important. It did not just show up here. Andso
accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDBhere having
divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protectwhat they may well
think is their spiritual lives from what they hadexperienced as a culture of
ethical negativity that was TM, so theyseem to say. But yet as these guys
wallow in their stories evenyears later does this not continue to bring on them
their ownnegativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is
teachinghere their own loops in negativity are not really good for theseguys.
It would be more better if they should be silent about thesethings of their
past and not just keep dredging it up. They reallyshould stop all this
negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a largercollective good
of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about thelarger collective good for
it seems that Maharishi actually was nottalking about collective good or
organizations in these earlydiscourse but more specifically individual
spiritual systems. I do hope that theirapostate subtle systems may recover in
field effect and come to someequanimity around their own individual time in
TM.Sincerely,-Buck
Maharishion
Negativity:https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone
naturally.
Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Richard and John, imo, what we're seeing now is patriarchal spirituality in its 
death throes and the re emergence of the feminine divine as co creator. 

Plus which there may have been another Mary, one who was a prostitute. Or maybe 
these various Marys, virgin, wife and prostitute are aspects of the collective 
psyche.

  From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children

 On 11/13/2014 1:43 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

    This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Code novel.  

  For nearly 2,000 years, Mary Magdalene was believed to be a prostitute who 
repented and became a disciple of Jesus, but, the truth about her is finally 
emerging. She was almost certainly not a prostitute, but a wealthy woman whose 
support helped early Christianity to survive. 

 Mary Magdalene could have been Jesus' concubine or even his wife. The Bible 
doesn't say what her realtionship was with Jesus except that she was a devoted 
follower and supporter. The early Gnostic Gospels have no hesitation describing 
the relationship between Mary Magdalene and Jesus.

 The death of Jesus could have been a plot to deceive the authorities. Maybe it 
was a robber that was hung on the cross and maybe Jesus escaped with Mary to go 
live in France. Go figure. 

 Read more:

 'Venus in Sackcloth'
 by Marjorie Malvern
 Penguin, 1995

That leaves the people to ask: who were the descendants of Jesus and Mary, 
and where are they now? 
  Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiah would completely 
change the present Christian theology.  As such, I believe the orthodoxy would 
completely reject the validity of the manuscript.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

  Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of his 
children, according to a translation of  an ancient manuscript.
  http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the way!

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


Here is the sound.  Can anyone figure it out?

Apparently if you play it backwards you can faintly hear the words Do 
not land, or we will be forced to destroy your puny planet. Whatever 
that might mean


On 11/13/2014 3:31 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:

What I can't understand is someone so addicted to New Age garbage and 
weak-minded thinking that, faced with two of the greatest achievements 
in the history of man (the Mars lander and this comet lander), they're 
looking for something more Woo Woo to focus and obsess on.


/This reminds me of the guy that went out to the Anza-Borrego Desert and 
instead of being overcome with wonder by the natural beauty of the 
place, instead he sat around a camp fire being entertained by a guy 
doing magic tricks./




People like JohnR and Nabby just leave me astonished. What *happened* 
to them that makes them think (or, more accurately, NOT think) the way 
they do? You would think that they'd be *embarrassed* to show people 
the ways that their minds work (or fail to), but they actually seem to 
be proud of it. 


/This isn't a science writer lab, Barry - it's a chat room. We're just 
throwing things out there as potential topics for discussion - no need 
to be so defensive. You don't seem to be willing to talk about 
para-normal events, yet you're the guy that first brought the subject 
up. You seem to be experiencing some cognitive dissonance. Go figure./

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)


How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.

I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)




 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow in, 
even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never heard Maharishi speak about 
other spiritual paths.






 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 


You obviously never saw Maharishi in person nor listened to any of his tapes if 
you believe for an instant that he practiced what he preached about never 
entertaining negativity. That was NEVER true -- even as far back as Squaw 
Valley 1968 he couldn't talk about a competing spiritual teaching or practice 
without dumping on its teachers and everything about it. 


Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane 
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain 
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're 
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with 
reality? 





 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
So
evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that
if one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the
subtle.  One may even take on the energetics in the subtle. 
Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the
system spiritually.  Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would
call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle
system.   There is proly some truth to that. -Buck




Dear
FFL, 
Culturally
this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's teaching on
negativity is really important.  It did not just show up here.  
And
so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB
here having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect
what they may well think is their spiritual lives from what they had
experienced as a culture of ethical negativity that was TM, so they
seem to say.  But yet as these guys wallow in their stories even
years later does this not continue to bring on them their own
negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is teaching
here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these
guys.  It would be more better if they should be silent about these
things of their past and not just keep dredging it up.They really
should stop all this negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a 
larger
collective good of everyone.  Om, strike that last comment about the
larger collective good for it seems that Maharishi actually was not
talking about collective good or organizations in these early
discourse but more specifically individual spiritual systems.I do hope that 
their
apostate subtle systems may recover in field effect and come to some
equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
Sincerely,  
-Buck 

Maharishi
on Negativity:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800



https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :


Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
 

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
 
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the CIA
guy.

From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others +
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost
all of them untrue, BTW.)

How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he
did.
I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of
course, he could easily have been both.)

From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others +
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow
in, even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never heard Maharishi speak
about other spiritual paths.

Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa.

[FairfieldLife] Land of the Free!

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

'You filthy, abnormal animal': graphic contents of anonymous letter sent by FBI 
to Martin Luther King - Telegraph 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11226618/You-filthy-abnormal-animal-graphic-contents-of-anonymous-letter-sent-by-FBI-to-Martin-Luther-King.html

 
 
 
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 'You filthy, abnormal animal': graphic contents ... 
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 Civil rights leader was urged to kill himself over ‘sexual orgies' with 'evil 
playmates'
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the way!


Here is the sound.  Can anyone figure it out?

Apparently if you play it backwards you can faintly hear the words Do 
not land, or we will be forced to destroy your puny planet. Whatever 
that might mean


What I can't understand is someone so addicted to New Age garbage and 
weak-minded thinking that, faced with two of the greatest achievements 
in the history of man (the Mars lander and this comet lander), they're 
looking for something more Woo Woo to focus and obsess on.


People like JohnR and Nabby just leave me astonished. What *happened* 
to them that makes them think (or, more accurately, NOT think) the way 
they do? You would think that they'd be *embarrassed* to show people 
the ways that their minds work (or fail to), but they actually seem to 
be proud of it.


I think I get where it comes from, I briefly suffered from this need 
to make more out of the world than there is when I was a kid and was 
exploring the world outside of me seriously for the first time. I 
remember it as being like discovering secret knowledge that the stuffy 
establishment were too blind to see, or something that linked in more 
with the sci-fi I loved than the BBC documentaries provided.


We could call it Erich Von Daniken syndrome, because it was his 
books I found in the library that really made me wonder about these 
alleged esoteric truths. It had to be true or they wouldn't publish 
it, right? But he did travel to amazing places and got me hooked on 
the ancient world even though everything he said was total nonsense, 
as I found out from learning how proper archaeologists go about their 
work.


Crop circles did me a big favour too because it was photo on the front 
of the Fortean Times magazine that made me buy it and that's what 
started a somewhat more realistic approach because they would actually 
look at weird things objectively to see if they were true.


This /E//xaminer /website does John no favours, they don't seem to 
have any brake on finding things out before they leap to the 
fantastical as they have no scientific way of evaluating and grading 
quality of evidence. I think it spoils the sense of wonder and that's 
a shame.


On 11/13/2014 5:12 AM, TurquoiseBee  wrote:

JohnR and Nabby are perpetual VICTIMS to sites like the Examiner or 
YouTube because they *cater* to people like them --


/You don't have to be so defensive, Barry. You're the guy that posted to 
FFL numerous articles from the Huffington Post and the link to your RAMA 
website. Everyone already knows that./


guys who have never had anything going for them but who are desperate 
to be perceived as being special or knowing things that others do 
not. It's like these sites they repost articles from have a big, 
blinking neon sign that only losers can see that says, in big 
invisible letters: NEED SOMETHING TO MAKE YOU FEEL MORE 
SELF-IMPORTANT? READ THIS. SHARE IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS.


/The question is - CAN YOU OR FLY? CAN YOU FLY, MR. WRIGHT?/



Also, one of the things I've noticed in non-FFL, non-TM former friends 
of mine who have gone all Newage (rhymes with sewage) and WooWoo 
themselves is that they tend to only talk to people like themselves. 
That is, those whose minds are so weak that they'd actually be 
*impressed* by the kinds of things they post. They repost articles 
claiming that the guvmint knows that aliens exist and are hiding the 
truth about it because they're used to getting replies from idiots 
like themselves who say, Oh...YOU know the truth about this, too? 
Good for you. Aren't we so SPECIAL? Aren't we so much BETTER than 
those who don't know this stuff?


/The only thing we want to know is why you posted those levitation 
claims to the group in order to impress us with your advance spiritual 
experience at Denny's in downtown L.A. Can you please just answer that?/




What they don't seem to realize is that their more sensible friends 
stopped reading what they post and stopped replying to them years ago. 
The only followers they have left on FB or wherever are people who 
are just as whacked out as they are.


/Get a grip, Barry - it's not the end of the world that you now have 
only a single friend left on FB - //Dr. Pete./

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 


If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the CIA 
guy.






 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 

  
You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)


How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.

I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)






 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow in, 
even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never heard Maharishi speak about 
other spiritual paths.






 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 


You obviously never saw Maharishi in person nor listened to any of his tapes if 
you believe for an instant that he practiced what he preached about never 
entertaining negativity. That was NEVER true -- even as far back as Squaw 
Valley 1968 he couldn't talk about a competing spiritual teaching or practice 
without dumping on its teachers and everything about it. 


Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane 
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain 
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're 
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with 
reality? 





 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
So
evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that
if one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the
subtle.  One may even take on the energetics in the subtle. 
Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the
system spiritually.  Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would
call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle
system.   There is proly some truth to that. -Buck




Dear
FFL, 
Culturally
this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's teaching on
negativity is really important.  It did not just show up here.  
And
so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB
here having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect
what they may well think is their spiritual lives from what they had
experienced as a culture of ethical negativity that was TM, so they
seem to say.  But yet as these guys wallow in their stories even
years later does this not continue to bring on them their own
negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is teaching
here their own loops in negativity are not really good for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the way!

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

What they don't seem to realize is that their more sensible friends 
stopped reading what they post and stopped replying to them years ago. 
The only followers they have left on FB or wherever are people who 
are just as whacked out as they are.


On 11/13/2014 5:33 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

I had to give up with FB sites like Mind unleashed or the open 
mind because they post such absolute drivel on a daily basis that I 
felt duty bound to try and stem the tide with a bit of reasoned argument. 


/Apparently you two nerds tried to use FB as a chat-room. Now this is 
really funny!


A guy gave up on FB sites because of all the drivel being posted on a 
daily basis. So he came over to Yahoo FFL to read our drivel posted on a 
daily basis and try to stem the tide with a bit of reasoned argument.


LoL!/

Trouble was everyone else who subscribed to them tried to correct me 
and every time I logged on I'd have to clear 20,000 posts from 
indignant True Believers how do you know atlantis didn't rise again 
in the year 2000? They might have hushed it up etc


/I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los 
Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's 
restaurant in the wee hours of the night. - TurquoiseB /

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

  From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.
I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow 
in, even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never heard Maharishi speak 
about other spiritual paths.

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 

You obviously never saw Maharishi in person nor listened to any of his tapes if 
you believe for an instant that he practiced what he preached about never 
entertaining negativity. That was NEVER true -- even as far back as Squaw 
Valley 1968 he couldn't talk about a competing spiritual teaching or practice 
without dumping on its teachers and everything about it. 

Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane 
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain 
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're 
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with 
reality? 

 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:55 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding 
Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    Soevidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is thatif 
one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on thesubtle. One may 
even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems is 
like an entity lodging in thesystem spiritually. Like a stress snag, an entity, 
like some wouldcall a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the 
subtlesystem. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck

DearFFL, Culturallythis particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's 
teaching onnegativity is really important. It did not just show up here. Andso 
accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDBhere having 
divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protectwhat they may well 
think is their spiritual lives from what they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Buck the alternative to what we do is to ignore the truth, deny the truth and 
continue to attempt to ride a dead horse. The stories from the beginning of the 
Movement and all the intervening years from then to the present provide a 
context to evaluate and be able to understand the current TM and TMO world. 


To ignore the past is to repeat it. Given the track record of both Marshy and 
the TMO of lying and underhanded behavior it is easy to see how untrustworthy 
all Marshy had to say was and how untrustworthy the TMO is of any trust.




 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:08 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
Dear
FFL,  
Culturally
this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's teaching on
negativity is really important.  It did not just show up here.  
And
so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB
here having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect
what they may well think is their spiritual lives from what they had
experienced as a culture of ethical negativity that was TM, so they
seem to say.  But yet as these guys wallow in their stories even
years later does this not continue to bring on them their own
negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is teaching
here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these
guys.  It would be more better if they should be silent about these
things of their past and not just keep dredging it up.They really
should stop all this negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a 
larger
collective good of everyone.  Om, strike that last comment about the
larger collective good for it seems that Maharishi actually was not
talking about collective good or organizations in these early
discourse but more specifically individual spiritual systems.I do hope that 
their
apostate subtle systems may recover in field effect and come to some
equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
Sincerely,  
-Buck  

Maharishi
on Negativity:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800



https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :


Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
 

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
 
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's 
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.
 
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.
 
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think 
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking 
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities 
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.
 
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.
 
Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes 
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in 
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important.  
It is as important as daily practice of meditation.
 
In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man did some 
great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would cover his body with a 
cloth like that and will go to any village. Standing out of the village, he 
would shout out: my name is such and such, and I come from that village, and I 
happened to be doing like that and like that and like that. He would just 
announce it and go ahead, and keep on announcing from village to village.
 
And the effect was: all the people who heard him, if in their evening meetings 
with their fellow men, they talk about that, then the contention is that they 
partake of his sin and after some time he becomes pure. Just by talking about 
the sinner, the people who talk about him share his sin.
 
This is very dangerous. Someone has done something wrong and if we dwell on 
that and talk it over with someone, we have been affected by that sin and we 
spread that sin; we partake of his sin and take it upon us.
 
Anyone who has done any mistake there or there or there, we just don't speak of 
it.  Otherwise we will only be shrouding ourselves with the sins of others. 
Very important, especially now

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Remember Barry that you are talking to the TM addict who suggested taking me 
and other neganauts out with drone strikes.

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 

You obviously never saw Maharishi in person nor listened to any of his tapes if 
you believe for an instant that he practiced what he preached about never 
entertaining negativity. That was NEVER true -- even as far back as Squaw 
Valley 1968 he couldn't talk about a competing spiritual teaching or practice 
without dumping on its teachers and everything about it. 

Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane 
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain 
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're 
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with 
reality? 

 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

So
evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that
if one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the
subtle.  One may even take on the energetics in the subtle. 
Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the
system spiritually.  Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would
call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle
system.   There is proly some truth to that. -Buck

Dear
FFL, 
Culturally
this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's teaching on
negativity is really important.  It did not just show up here.  
And
so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB
here having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect
what they may well think is their spiritual lives from what they had
experienced as a culture of ethical negativity that was TM, so they
seem to say.  But yet as these guys wallow in their stories even
years later does this not continue to bring on them their own
negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is teaching
here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these
guys.  It would be more better if they should be silent about these
things of their past and not just keep dredging it up.They really
should stop all this negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a 
larger
collective good of everyone.  Om, strike that last comment about the
larger collective good for it seems that Maharishi actually was not
talking about collective good or organizations in these early
discourse but more specifically individual spiritual systems.I do hope that 
their
apostate subtle systems may recover in field effect and come to some
equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
Sincerely,  
-Buck 

Maharishi
on Negativity:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964

Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's 
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.

One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.

But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think 
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking 
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities 
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.

So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.

Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes 
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in 
our dealings and feelings with people.

[FairfieldLife] Big shot TM celebrity

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Ha ha! Good for the Twitter folks!

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/12/7203269/dr-oz-health-twitter
  
 
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Highlights from the #Ozsinbox hashtag.  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Excellent, Share. 

 But remember, you are talking to someone who has lost the ability, or desire 
to make distinctions along these lines.
 

 It must have to do with a 40 year obsession with TM, and MMY, disguised as a 
study on what he believes is the cult mindset. And, further, to have any any 
disagreement with this conclusion is to prove that one, is himself, (or 
herself) a cult apologist.
 

 Pretty nifty, I'd say, but maybe not the best recipe for any kind of 
advancement, spiritual, or otherwise.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow 
in, even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never heard Maharishi speak 
about other spiritual paths.
 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   
 Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 

 

 You obviously never saw Maharishi in person nor listened to any of his tapes 
if you believe for an instant that he practiced what he preached about never 
entertaining negativity. That was NEVER true -- even as far back as Squaw 
Valley 1968 he couldn't talk about a competing spiritual teaching or practice 
without dumping on its teachers and everything about it. 

 

 Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane 
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain 
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're 
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with 
reality? 
 

 


 From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:55 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding 
Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that if 
one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the subtle. One 
may even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems 
is like an entity lodging in the system spiritually. Like a stress snag, an 
entity, like some would call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric 
of the subtle system. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck
 


 
 Dear FFL, 
 Culturally this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's 
teaching on negativity is really important. It did not just show up here. 
 And so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB here 
having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect what they may 
well think is their spiritual lives from what they had experienced as a culture 
of ethical negativity that was TM, so they seem to say. But yet as these guys 
wallow in their stories even years later does this not continue to bring on 
them their own negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is 
teaching here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these guys. 
It would be more better if they should be silent about these things of their 
past and not just keep dredging it up. They really should stop all this 
negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a larger collective good 
of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about the larger collective good for 
it seems that Maharishi actually was not talking about collective good or 
organizations in these early discourse but more specifically individual 
spiritual systems. I do hope that their apostate subtle systems may recover in 
field effect and come to some equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
 Sincerely, 
 -Buck 
 

 Maharishi on Negativity:
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800
 

 

 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

 Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
 
 
 

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
 
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's 
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.
 
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having been 
trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while on 
their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, but 
allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 


Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 


But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.


The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 


All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 




 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?






 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 


If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.





 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the CIA 
guy.






 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 

  
You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)


How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.

I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)






 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow in, 
even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Again, this was never part of my training, with the exception of pointing out 
the differences between contemplation or concentration. 

 And, of course, there was never any kind of put down tone, when discussing 
those differences.
 

 And again, I think it is clear what is meant by never entertain negativity, 
as opposed to pointing out things one perceives to be wrong, or bad, which is 
just a matter of opinion.
 

 But, if one's goal is to try to find fault in something, or someone, that is 
always a pretty easy thing to do if so inclined.
 

 Not many of us have assigned god like status to MMY, as turq has.  
 

 He has his reasons for this, of course.  Makes it a little easier to throw the 
flame bombs.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

 

 How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.
 

 I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)

 

 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow 
in, even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never heard Maharishi speak 
about other spiritual paths.
 

 


 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   
 Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 

 

 You obviously never saw Maharishi in person nor listened to any of his tapes 
if you believe for an instant that he practiced what he preached about never 
entertaining negativity. That was NEVER true -- even as far back as Squaw 
Valley 1968 he couldn't talk about a competing spiritual teaching or practice 
without dumping on its teachers and everything about it. 

 

 Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane 
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain 
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're 
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with 
reality? 
 

 


 From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:55 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding 
Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that if 
one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the subtle. One 
may even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems 
is like an entity lodging in the system spiritually. Like a stress snag, an 
entity, like some would call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric 
of the subtle system. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck
 


 
 Dear FFL, 
 Culturally this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's 
teaching on negativity is really important. It did not just show up here. 
 And so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB here 
having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect what they may 
well think is their spiritual lives from what they had experienced as a culture 
of ethical negativity that was TM, so they seem to say. But yet as these guys 
wallow in their stories even years later does this not continue to bring on 
them their own negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is 
teaching here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these guys. 
It would be more better if they should be silent about these things of their 
past and not just keep dredging it up. They really should stop all this 
negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a larger collective good 
of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about the larger collective good for 
it seems that Maharishi actually was not talking about collective good or 
organizations in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Oh, that Barry would back up what he says in this first paragraph. 

 Not gonna happen, I'm afraid.  Just a bunch of bluster.
 

  Can't you just hear the indignation rising in this tone?
 

 Wish I had more time to reply, but gotta go.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

 

 Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

 

 But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

 

 The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

 

 All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 

 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?
 

 


 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   
 There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

 

 If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.
 

 


 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.
 

 


 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 

   
 You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

 

 How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.
 

 I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)

 

 


 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:17 PM
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Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Share: The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted 
the CIA guy.
 

 The CIA guy's the Turq claims never excisted are real people who were caught 
readhanded and armed on their way across the bridge between the hotels 
Sonnenberg and Kulm where Maharishi lived. Others have been insiders who openly 
admitted they worked for the CIA, mind you; after having been disclosed. All 
this is no secret, many know who these people are/were.
 

 It's impossible for the Turq to admit that this activities were going on. 
 One can only spectulate to why.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

That's a lot of anger coming out here, someone obviously pushed the Turq's 
buttons again. Looks very much like a prelude to one of his yearly rants where 
he claims TM is a concentration technique, one of many efforts he produce to 
try to have TM'ers stop meditating. It's like a law of nature, every year he 
HAS to try to start this discussion. 
 Why does he do this shit year after year, does he get any benefit at all ?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

 

 Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

 

 But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

 

 The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

 

 All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 

 
 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?
 

 


 
 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   
 There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

 

 If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.
 

 


 
 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.
 

 


 
 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 

   
 You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

 

 How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.
 

 I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)

 

 


 
 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Gotta revisit this one. 

 Share, dagnabit, you've positively pushed this guys buttons, to such an 
extent, that he has wy overplayed his had.
 

 But, hey, let's see if Barry can produce even six teachers to corroborate this 
claims that TM teachers were trained to slam other methods of meditation,by MMY.
 

 I mean, can he even produce ONE person to corroborate it.
 

 But dozens!?
 

 As far as this claim and the others, he appears so positively obsessed with 
the TM thing, that in order to ridicule what he views are outrageous claims by 
the movement, he makes his own outrageous claims!
 

 Thank you Barry.  
 

 You are a gem!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

 

 Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

 

 But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

 

 The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

 

 All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 

 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?
 

 


 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   
 There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

 

 If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.
 

 


 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.
 

 


 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 

   
 You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

 

 How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.
 

 I repeat -- MMY was at best a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children

2014-11-13 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of his 
children, according to a translation of an ancient manuscript.

 'Lost gospel' claims Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married and had children - 
Telegraph http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b

 
 
 http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b 
 
 'Lost gospel' claims Jesus and Mary Magdalene we... http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b 
New translation of a 1,500-year-old manuscript said to fill in 'significant 
gaps' about Jesus and Mary Magdalene's life but Church of England dismisses ...
 
 
 
 View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 Funny, this was a theme in the fiction novel The Da Vinci Code.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children

2014-11-13 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Code novel.  That leaves the 
people to ask: who were the descendants of Jesus and Mary, and where are they 
now? 

 Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiah would completely 
change the present Christian theology.  As such, I believe the orthodoxy would 
completely reject the validity of the manuscript.
 

 Absolutely. First, I think many Christians like the idea of Jesus as some sort 
of asexual virgin, second, I am pretty sure they wouldn't like the idea of a 
WOMAN as messiah or anyone near the same import as Jesus Christ. I mean, it's 
okay for a woman (Mary) to have given physical birth to Jesus but not if she 
had others powers to boot. The mere idea of Mary Magdalene being not only a sex 
partner of Jesus' but having status near Godly is reason to have relegated her 
to a foot washing ex prostitute for all these years.
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of his 
children, according to a translation of an ancient manuscript.

 http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

2014-11-13 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:
 

 

 

 Rugged as hell. And cold. Br. I wonder if there's a Starbucks just around 
the corner, that projecting piece of rock that looks like Woody Wood Pecker's 
face.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I had 
with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions other 
than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal followers. 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having been 
trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while on 
their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, but 
allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the CIA 
guy.

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.

I repeat --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

2014-11-13 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I see a face, don't you? 

 He's got a scowl, and a crooked mouth.  His left eye is visible, but right eye 
mostly hidden.
 

 If I had to interpret his expression, it would be,
 

 Jesus Christ you guys, did ya have to land on my freakin chin!?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:
 

 

 

 Rugged as hell. And cold. Br. I wonder if there's a Starbucks just around 
the corner, that projecting piece of rock that looks like Woody Wood Pecker's 
face.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Okay, so what.  I don't really call this news, and of course, this doesn't 
corroborate Barry's version of what teacher's were trained to say, now, does 
it? 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I had 
with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions other 
than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal followers. 

 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

 

 Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

 

 But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

 

 The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

 

 All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 

 


 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?
 

 


 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   
 There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

 

 If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.
 

 


 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.
 

 


 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 

   
 You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

 

 How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I think we only need to look at the things Nabby has said about Buddhism and 
Buddhists on this forum to see what he learned from his teacher Maharishi about 
dumping on other religions and belief systems. 

 From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I had 
with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions other 
than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal followers. 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having been 
trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while on 
their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, but 
allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the CIA 
guy.

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

They are getting desperate to find something negative to say to the point they 
are making things up, must be the success the TMO and DLF is having these days.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Okay, so what.  I don't really call this news, and of course, this doesn't 
corroborate Barry's version of what teacher's were trained to say, now, does 
it? 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I had 
with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions other 
than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal followers. 

 

 
 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

 

 Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

 

 But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

 

 The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

 

 All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 

 


 
 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?
 

 


 
 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   
 There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

 

 If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.
 

 


 
 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.
 

 


 
 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 

   
 You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the

[FairfieldLife] TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands

Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling??

Original document:
ANBI-status Transcendente Meditatie stichting terecht ingetrokken • Accountancy 
Nieuws - nieuws, achtergrond en verdieping

  
  
ANBI-status Transcendente Meditatie stichting terecht ingetrokken • Accountancy 
Nieuws - nieuws,...
De stichting stimuleert de beoefening van Transcendente Meditatie (TM) volgens 
de leer van Maharishi Mahesh. Hiertoe is door de stichting in Lelystad een 
woonwijk gerealiseerd.   
View on www.accountancynieuws.nl Preview by Yahoo  
  



English translation:

ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn 
27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today 
The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI status of a foundation that 
promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. That is the verdict court 
northern Netherlands came recently. According to the court edify its activities 
mainly private consumption interests of the participants. 
The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental Meditation (TM) as 
taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this purpose achieved by the 
foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the maintenance of the district and 
subsidizes the school, the organic shop and vegetarian restaurant. Participants 
rent a house or buy. The participants and all persons belonging to their 
household, are also a monthly contribution payable to the foundation. In 
dispute is whether the status of public benefit institution (ANBI) 
of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked. 
Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with its 
activities, the private consumption interests of the participants 
mainly. To personal well-being and personal development of the participants 
have a beneficial effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect 
and subordinate to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the 
Foundation does not establish that the general interest of 
90% or more (quantitative test) served by the activities of the 
foundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

What did I say about Buddhism except that it's followers is so lost in 
ignorance they will set fire to themselves ?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 I think we only need to look at the things Nabby has said about Buddhism and 
Buddhists on this forum to see what he learned from his teacher Maharishi about 
dumping on other religions and belief systems. 

 

 
 From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I 
had with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions 
other than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal 
followers. 

 

 


 
 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

 

 Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

 

 But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

 

 The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

 

 All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 

 


 
 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?
 

 


 
 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   
 There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

 

 If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.
 

 


 
 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 
 
   The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.
 

 


 
 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

Too cool! I guess the harpoon is holding. I wonder how long the transmissions 
to earth and return, take? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Like the purusha guy did in the basement of Marshy's home in Vlodrop?

 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

What did I say about Buddhism except that it's followers is so lost in 
ignorance they will set fire to themselves ?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

I think we only need to look at the things Nabby has said about Buddhism and 
Buddhists on this forum to see what he learned from his teacher Maharishi about 
dumping on other religions and belief systems. 

From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I had 
with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions other 
than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal followers. 

From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having been 
trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while on 
their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, but 
allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

From: Share
Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim
to the contrary unaccompanied by absolute proof is just the self importance of 
cultists acting *itself* out.

From: Share Long sharelong60@...
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

The only time I saw something like

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling??
 

 Original document:
 ANBI-status Transcendente Meditatie stichting terecht ingetrokken • 
Accountancy Nieuws - nieuws, achtergrond en verdieping 
http://www.accountancynieuws.nl/actueel/fiscaliteit/anbi-status-transcendente-meditatie-stichting.146735.lynkx#.VGOPMEsqg3a

  
  
  
  
  
  
 ANBI-status Transcendente Meditatie stichting terecht ingetrokken • 
Accountancy Nieuws - nieuws,... 
http://www.accountancynieuws.nl/actueel/fiscaliteit/anbi-status-transcendente-meditatie-stichting.146735.lynkx#.VGOPMEsqg3a
 De stichting stimuleert de beoefening van Transcendente Meditatie (TM) volgens 
de leer van Maharishi Mahesh. Hiertoe is door de stichting in Lelystad een 
woonwijk gerealiseerd.


 
 View on www.accountancynieuws.nl 
http://www.accountancynieuws.nl/actueel/fiscaliteit/anbi-status-transcendente-meditatie-stichting.146735.lynkx#.VGOPMEsqg3a
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

 

 

 English translation:
 

 ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn 27-10-2014 
13:13 • UN Today
 
 The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI status of a foundation that 
promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. That is the verdict court 
northern Netherlands came recently. According to the court edify its activities 
mainly private consumption interests of the participants.

 The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental Meditation (TM) as 
taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this purpose achieved by the 
foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the maintenance of the district and 
subsidizes the school, the organic shop and vegetarian restaurant. Participants 
rent a house or buy. The participants and all persons belonging to their 
household, are also a monthly contribution payable to the foundation. In 
dispute is whether the status of public benefit institution (ANBI) of the 
foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked.
 Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with its activities, the 
private consumption interests of the participants mainly. To personal 
well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial 
effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect and subordinate 
to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not 
establish that the general interest of 90% or more (quantitative test) served 
by the activities of the foundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded.

 

 Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I 
feel like my babel fish just died

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

2014-11-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Too cool! I guess the harpoon is holding. I wonder how long the transmissions 
to earth and return, take? 
 

 About half an hour to get a message there. But it's not all good news, they 
think it's on its side in a crater and if they can't get the solar panels to 
work the batteries will run out in 60 hours. 
 

 According to their twitter feed they're trying to decide whether it's worth 
the risk of getting it to jump about a bit so they can maybe get it upright and 
then fire the harpoons again to lock it in place. But they can't decide whether 
to do the most important sciencey bit first in case it flies off into space!
 

 This means drilling into the surface to look at what the dust cloud of early 
solar system was made from, this bit of rock has been hanging around for 3.5 
billion years with all these secrets, I hope they can get something good out of 
it.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the system 
spiritually. Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would call a 
thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle system. There is 
proly some truth to that. -Buck 

 Yes, it is the stress, speaking. The ironic thing is, only TM can reach deeply 
enough, and impersonally enough, to untwist such stresses. The other thing to 
be aware of, is what may lie beneath the whipping boy of TM or Maharishi? 
Oftentimes, the ego will choose a target, an enemy, and hinges a lot of 
convenient stories to that, as a distraction from what is going on in real 
life, or to avoid dealing with memories that contradict one's egocentric view 
of oneself. So what we hear, through these endlessly redundant and negative 
stories, are the cries of frustration, from the souls trapped by them. Only by 
effortlessly contacting Being, and transcending, to eventually establish 
oneself in Being, in silence, in bliss, can these stresses be resolved. Even 
then, the naturally inertial (tamasic) aspect of physical existence, makes it 
easy for stresses to lodge in the physiology, during an active and creative 
life, even for an enlightened person, and so TM (2x20) continues.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 “..speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of 
someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your 
heart and mind spoiled.
 
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.
 
Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes 
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in 
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important.  
It is as important as daily practice of meditation.”
 

 

 
 So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that if one 
entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the subtle. One may 
even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems is 
like an entity lodging in the system spiritually. Like a stress snag, an 
entity, like some would call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric 
of the subtle system. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck
 
 Dear FFL, 
 Culturally this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's 
teaching on negativity is really important. It did not just show up here. 
 And so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB here 
having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect what they may 
well think is their spiritual lives from what they had experienced as a culture 
of ethical negativity that was TM, so they seem to say. But yet as these guys 
wallow in their stories even years later does this not continue to bring on 
them their own negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is 
teaching here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these guys. 
It would be more better if they should be silent about these things of their 
past and not just keep dredging it up. They really should stop all this 
negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a larger collective good 
of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about the larger collective good for 
it seems that Maharishi actually was not talking about collective good or 
organizations in these early discourse but more specifically individual 
spiritual systems. I do hope that their apostate subtle systems may recover in 
field effect and come to some equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
 Sincerely, 
 -Buck 
 

 Maharishi on Negativity:
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800
 

 

 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

 Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
 
 
 

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
 
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's 
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.
 
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.
 
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think 
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking 
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:25 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

What did I say about Buddhism except that it's followers is so lost in 
ignorance they will set fire to themselves ?

All Buddhists do this Nabby? You can find plenty of examples of crazy shit 
Hindus do. You constantly insult Buddhists, including the Dalai Lama.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@...  wrote :

I think we only need to look at the things Nabby has said about Buddhism and 
Buddhists on this forum to see what he learned from his teacher Maharishi about 
dumping on other religions and belief systems. 

From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I had 
with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions other 
than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal followers. 

From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having been 
trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while on 
their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, but 
allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

There

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

I've said The Dolly Lama is just a politician.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

I've said The Dolly Lama is just a politician. That's a fact, not an insult.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:25 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

 What did I say about Buddhism except that it's followers is so lost in 
ignorance they will set fire to themselves ?
 All Buddhists do this Nabby? You can find plenty of examples of crazy shit 
Hindus do. You constantly insult Buddhists, including the Dalai Lama.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 I think we only need to look at the things Nabby has said about Buddhism and 
Buddhists on this forum to see what he learned from his teacher Maharishi about 
dumping on other religions and belief systems. 

 From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

 Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I had 
with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions other 
than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal followers. 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

 I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

 Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

 But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

 The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

 All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

 What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

I've said the lama-fellow is just a politician. That's a fact, not an insult.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:25 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

 What did I say about Buddhism except that it's followers is so lost in 
ignorance they will set fire to themselves ?
 All Buddhists do this Nabby? You can find plenty of examples of crazy shit 
Hindus do. You constantly insult Buddhists, including the Dalai Lama.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 I think we only need to look at the things Nabby has said about Buddhism and 
Buddhists on this forum to see what he learned from his teacher Maharishi about 
dumping on other religions and belief systems. 

 From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

 Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I had 
with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions other 
than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal followers. 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

 I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

 Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

 But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

 The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

 All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

 What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 I've said the lama-fellow is just a politician. That's a fact, not an insult.
 

 It's when you start to look at what the lama has accomplished the insults 
start appearing. The fact is that after he left his homeland and sought safety 
and comfort amongst the Hindus he has accomplished nothing whatsoever for the 
freedom om the tibetan people.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:25 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good


  
  
 What did I say about Buddhism except that it's followers is so lost in 
ignorance they will set fire to themselves ?
 All Buddhists do this Nabby? You can find plenty of examples of crazy shit 
Hindus do. You constantly insult Buddhists, including the Dalai Lama.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 I think we only need to look at the things Nabby has said about Buddhism and 
Buddhists on this forum to see what he learned from his teacher Maharishi about 
dumping on other religions and belief systems. 

  

 From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

  
  
 Mark Landau (one of Marshy's skin boys) told me in a phone conversation I had 
with him that Marshy in private was openly contemptuous of all religions other 
than Hinduism and at times was disparaging towards his own loyal followers. 

  

  

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

  
  
 I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

  

 Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

  

 But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

  

 The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

  

 All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

  

  

 From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

  
  
 What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :


Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling??
English translation:

ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn
27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today
The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI status of a foundation that 
promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. That is the verdict court 
northern
Netherlands came recently. According to the court edify its activities mainly 
private consumption interests of the participants.
The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental Meditation (TM) as 
taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this purpose achieved by the 
foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the maintenance of the district and 
subsidizes the school, the organic shop and vegetarian restaurant. Participants 
rent a house or buy. The participants and all persons belonging to their 
household, are also a monthly contribution payable to the foundation. In 
dispute is whether the status of public benefit institution (ANBI)
of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked.
Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with its
activities, the private consumption interests of the participants
mainly. To personal well-being and personal development of the participants 
have a beneficial effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect 
and subordinate to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the 
Foundation does not establish that the general interest of
90% or more (quantitative test) served by the activities of the
foundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded.

Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I 
feel like my babel fish just died

My Dutch is barely passable and certainly not legal-document-worthy yet, but 
what I get from this is that the government decided that activities in the 
seemingly TM-oriented Sidhadorp community of Lelystad were deemed to be for 
profit or purely for the benefit of the people living there, and thus did not 
meet the Dutch requirements to qualify as a non-profit (tax-free) organization. 

The result will likely be back taxes owed on everything associated with this 
location, including the school, the organic shop, vegetarian restaurant, and 
everything currently or previously sold by the Maharishi Ayurveda clinic there. 
Whether it affects TM in the Netherlands on a larger basis (that is, Vlodrop or 
other similar for-profit locations in Huizen or Limburg) is unclear. It appears 
from the last sentence that this decision may have been appealed by the 
community, and lost.

In other words, their free ride as a non-profit organization is over. As 
Michael points out, how could this happen if the ME actually worked?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Bingo !
 So what we hear, through these endlessly redundant and negative stories, are 
the cries of frustration, from the souls trapped by them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands

I'd say that this ruling indicates the universality and impartiality of the ME. 
Obviously not every person and not every segment of the TMO is 100% fully 
developed.

  From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands

    From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling??
English translation:

ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn
  27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today  The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI 
status of a foundation that promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. 
 That is the verdict court northernNetherlands came recently.  According to the 
court edify its activities mainly private consumption interests of the 
participants.  The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental 
Meditation (TM) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh.  Is a residential area this 
purpose achieved by the foundation in Lelystad.  The Foundation for the 
maintenance of the district and subsidizes the school, the organic shop and 
vegetarian restaurant.  Participants rent a house or buy.  The participants and 
all persons belonging to their household, are also a monthly contribution 
payable to the foundation. In dispute is whether the status of public benefit 
institution (ANBI)of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked. 
Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with itsactivities, the 
private consumption interests of the participantsmainly.  To personal 
well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial 
effect on their environment.  However, this effect is indirect and subordinate 
to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not 
establish that the general interest of90% or more (quantitative test) served by 
the activities of thefoundation.  The appeal of the foundation is unfounded.
Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I 
feel like my babel fish just died

My Dutch is barely passable and certainly not legal-document-worthy yet, but 
what I get from this is that the government decided that activities in the 
seemingly TM-oriented Sidhadorp community of Lelystad were deemed to be for 
profit or purely for the benefit of the people living there, and thus did not 
meet the Dutch requirements to qualify as a non-profit (tax-free) organization. 

The result will likely be back taxes owed on everything associated with this 
location, including the school, the organic shop, vegetarian restaurant, and 
everything currently or previously sold by the Maharishi Ayurveda clinic there. 
Whether it affects TM in the Netherlands on a larger basis (that is, Vlodrop or 
other similar for-profit locations in Huizen or Limburg) is unclear. It appears 
from the last sentence that this decision may have been appealed by the 
community, and lost.

In other words, their free ride as a non-profit organization is over. As 
Michael points out, how could this happen if the ME actually worked?

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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:00 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

I've said The Dolly Lama is just a politician.

Because presumably that’s something MMY said, and you’re parroting it, without 
thinking for yourself. If he had said he was a great man, you’d be parroting 
that. Even the way you misspell his name is an intentional insult.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I never felt a negative vibe from Maharishi either when I saw him in person or 
when I watched tapes of him. I base my conclusions on that and on the reports 
of people I have found to be reliable sources.

t of meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to 
the natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of 
the putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate 
them with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that 
people like you actually believed them. 

Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
   
    What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
   
    There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.
 

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
   
    The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.

 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
  
    You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.
I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)

 

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
   
    One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow 
in, even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never heard Maharishi speak 
about other spiritual paths.

 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling??
 

English translation: 

 ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn 27-10-2014 
13:13 • UN Today
 
 The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI status of a foundation that 
promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. That is the verdict court 
northern Netherlands came recently. According to the court edify its activities 
mainly private consumption interests of the participants.

 The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental Meditation (TM) as 
taught by Maharishi Mahesh. Is a residential area this purpose achieved by the 
foundation in Lelystad. The Foundation for the maintenance of the district and 
subsidizes the school, the organic shop and vegetarian restaurant. Participants 
rent a house or buy. The participants and all persons belonging to their 
household, are also a monthly contribution payable to the foundation. In 
dispute is whether the status of public benefit institution (ANBI) of the 
foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked.
 Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with its activities, the 
private consumption interests of the participants mainly. To personal 
well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial 
effect on their environment. However, this effect is indirect and subordinate 
to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not 
establish that the general interest of 90% or more (quantitative test) served 
by the activities of the foundation. The appeal of the foundation is unfounded.

 

 Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I 
feel like my babel fish just died

My Dutch is barely passable and certainly not legal-document-worthy yet, but 
what I get from this is that the government decided that activities in the 
seemingly TM-oriented Sidhadorp community of Lelystad were deemed to be for 
profit or purely for the benefit of the people living there, and thus did not 
meet the Dutch requirements to qualify as a non-profit (tax-free) organization. 

The result will likely be back taxes owed on everything associated with this 
location, including the school, the organic shop, vegetarian restaurant, and 
everything currently or previously sold by the Maharishi Ayurveda clinic there. 
Whether it affects TM in the Netherlands on a larger basis (that is, Vlodrop or 
other similar for-profit locations in Huizen or Limburg) is unclear. It appears 
from the last sentence that this decision may have been appealed by the 
community, and lost.

In other words, their free ride as a non-profit organization is over. As 
Michael points out, how could this happen if the ME actually worked?
 

 Thanks for that, it certainly seems they don't have much luck these days what 
with all the legal fees etc. It must be most perplexing for them, being as they 
are in the vicinity of yog.
 

 One could begin to get sceptical

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com



  
I've said The Dolly Lama is just a politician.
And you said that because *Maharishi said it*, in exactly those words. Do you 
call this never entertaining negativity? 

Sounds to me as if Maharishi was just JEALOUS. And with good reason -- the 
Dalai Lama was and still is treated as a revered guest in almost every country 
he visits, meeting with Presidents and world leaders, and treated with respect. 

Maharishi couldn't even *enter* the United States and possibly other countries 
without being arrested. That's why he never left the Netherlands. 

I guess being a politician is better for your reputation than being a con man.  
:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Fleetwood, as Maharishi used to explain, we unstress on our nearest and
dearest. Hmmm...

From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding
Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the system
spiritually. Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would call a
thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle system. There is
proly some truth to that. -Buck
Yes, it is the stress, speaking. The ironic thing is, only TM can reach deeply
enough, and impersonally enough, to untwist such stresses. The other thing to
be aware of, is what may lie beneath the whipping boy of TM or Maharishi?
Oftentimes, the ego will choose a target, an enemy, and hinges a lot of
convenient stories to that, as a distraction from what is going on in real
life, or to avoid dealing with memories that contradict one's egocentric view
of oneself. So what we hear, through these endlessly redundant and negative
stories, are the cries of frustration, from the souls trapped by them. Only by
effortlessly contacting Being, and transcending, to eventually establish
oneself in Being, in silence, in bliss, can these stresses be resolved. Even
then, the naturally inertial (tamasic) aspect of physical existence, makes it
easy for stresses to lodge in the physiology, during an active and creative
life, even for an enlightened person, and so TM (2x20) continues.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

“..speakingill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses
ofsomeone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] youget your
heart and mind spoiled.
Sowhen through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invitethis mud
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to becautious against our
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, andwe don't do ill to anyone
naturally.
Speakingill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty,makes
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have toguard against in
our dealings and feelings with people. Veryimportant; very, very important. It
is as important as dailypractice of meditation.”

Soevidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is thatif one
entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on thesubtle. One may
even take on the energetics in the subtle.Negativity in form then it seems is
like an entity lodging in thesystem spiritually. Like a stress snag, an entity,
like some wouldcall a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the
subtlesystem. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck
DearFFL, Culturallythis particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's
teaching onnegativity is really important. It did not just show up here. Andso
accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDBhere having
divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protectwhat they may well
think is their spiritual lives from what they hadexperienced as a culture of
ethical negativity that was TM, so theyseem to say. But yet as these guys
wallow in their stories evenyears later does this not continue to bring on them
their ownnegativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is
teachinghere their own loops in negativity are not really good for theseguys.
It would be more better if they should be silent about thesethings of their
past and not just keep dredging it up. They reallyshould stop all this
negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a largercollective good
of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about thelarger collective good for
it seems that Maharishi actually was nottalking about collective good or
organizations in these earlydiscourse but more specifically individual
spiritual systems. I do hope that theirapostate subtle systems may recover in
field effect and come to someequanimity around their own individual time in
TM.Sincerely,-Buck
Maharishion
Negativity:https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Some brains need to be washed.

  From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.
I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

The thing is, even contemporary psychology recognizes the unhealthy effect of 
dwelling on negative thoughts and emotions. And also on negative events that 
occurred in the past. Wishing everyone excellent health... 

  From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    I can easily produce dozens of former TM teachers who can attest to having 
been trained to badmouth competing meditation techniques and traditions while 
on their TM Teacher Training courses. That's not absolute proof, of course, 
but allow me to demonstrate. If you hear the concentration in the context of 
meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to the 
natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of the 
putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate them 
with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that people 
like you actually believed them. 

Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
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Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
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Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.
I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com



  
I never felt a negative vibe from Maharishi either when I saw him in person or 
when I watched tapes of him. I base my conclusions on that and on the reports 
of people I have found to be reliable sources.


We understand, Share. You found Maharishi to be trustworthy the same way you 
found Marci Shimoff to be trustworthy when she claimed falsely in your 
presence that she was the best-selling female author of all time. 

Have you ever considered the possibility that your intuition or perception in 
such matters sucks big-time and that you're just a gullible idiot?



t of meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to 
the natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of 
the putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate 
them with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that 
people like you actually believed them. 



Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 


But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.


The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 


All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 






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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
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Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?






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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 


If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.





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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the CIA 
guy.






 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 

  
You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)


How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And 
his anti-US, anti-capitalism Damn democracy rants? He must have been pretty 
entertained by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he 
did.

I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of 
course, he could easily have been both.)






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To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Me too. Thanks for keeping us up to date with this, salyavin.

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:40 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

Too cool! I guess the harpoon is holding. I wonder how long the transmissions 
to earth and return, take? 
About half an hour to get a message there. But it's not all good news, they 
think it's on its side in a crater and if they can't get the solar panels to 
work the batteries will run out in 60 hours. 
According to their twitter feed they're trying to decide whether it's worth the 
risk of getting it to jump about a bit so they can maybe get it upright and 
then fire the harpoons again to lock it in place. But they can't decide whether 
to do the most important sciencey bit first in case it flies off into space!
This means drilling into the surface to look at what the dust cloud of early 
solar system was made from, this bit of rock has been hanging around for 3.5 
billion years with all these secrets, I hope they can get something good out of 
it.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

salyavin, are you still doing TM every day?

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

Wonder how come the Marshy Effect didn't prevent such a ruling??
English translation:

ANBI status Transcendental Meditation foundation can be withdrawn
  27-10-2014 13:13 • UN Today  The Administration has rightly withdrawn ANBI 
status of a foundation that promotes the practice of Transcendental Meditation. 
 That is the verdict court northernNetherlands came recently.  According to the 
court edify its activities mainly private consumption interests of the 
participants.  The foundation encourages the practice of Transcendental 
Meditation (TM) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh.  Is a residential area this 
purpose achieved by the foundation in Lelystad.  The Foundation for the 
maintenance of the district and subsidizes the school, the organic shop and 
vegetarian restaurant.  Participants rent a house or buy.  The participants and 
all persons belonging to their household, are also a monthly contribution 
payable to the foundation. In dispute is whether the status of public benefit 
institution (ANBI)of the foundation routed there by July 1, 2012 is revoked. 
Court Northern Netherlands ruled that the foundation with itsactivities, the 
private consumption interests of the participantsmainly.  To personal 
well-being and personal development of the participants have a beneficial 
effect on their environment.  However, this effect is indirect and subordinate 
to the individual interests of the participants. Thus, the Foundation does not 
establish that the general interest of90% or more (quantitative test) served by 
the activities of thefoundation.  The appeal of the foundation is unfounded.
Erm, maybe Barry can translate that a bit better (or knows someone who can). I 
feel like my babel fish just died

My Dutch is barely passable and certainly not legal-document-worthy yet,but 
what I get from this is that the government decided that activities in the 
seemingly TM-oriented Sidhadorp community of Lelystad were deemed to be for 
profit or purely for the benefit of the people living there, and thus did not 
meet the Dutch requirements to qualify as a non-profit (tax-free) organization. 

The result will likely be back taxes owed on everything associated with this 
location, including the school, the organic shop, vegetarian restaurant, and 
everything currently or previously sold by the Maharishi Ayurveda clinic there. 
Whether it affects TM in the Netherlands on a larger basis (that is, Vlodrop or 
other similar for-profit locations in Huizen or Limburg) is unclear. It appears 
from the last sentence that this decision may have been appealed by the 
community, and lost.

In other words, their free ride as a non-profit organization is over. AsMichael 
points out, how could this happen if the ME actually worked?
Thanks for that, it certainly seems they don't have much luck these days what 
with all the legal fees etc. It must be most perplexing for them, being as they 
are in the vicinity of yog.
One could begin to get sceptical

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive? 
Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive?

  From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

    Share,
It all depends on what you believe is the basis of the universe.  If you 
believe that consciousness is the basis of the universe, it is likely that you 
would say biological intelligence is the more common way of development.  This 
is because we know this happens on earth where humans exist.
Non-biological intelligence implies that this is created by another type of 
beings--more likely humans or biological entities.  I can see how a 
non-biological intelligence could be an advantage.   For example, robots can 
direct and maintain the functions of a spaceship for centuries, without eating 
and sleeping like humans, until the destination is reached.
In the distant future, humans could develop these intelligent robots to take 
human sperms and eggs to a nearby or distant star in the Milky Way.  When an 
earthlike planet is reached or found, the robots can artificially inseminate 
the eggs with sperms to grow human beings who will populate or repopulate the 
new world.
But if there is a faster way to get to the other worlds, then the assumptions 
would be different.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

John and salyavin, thanks, I enjoyed both these articles and thoroughly 
appreciate the concluding remarks:So, how do weprepare for something we know so 
little about? We do so by continuingto do good science, but also by realizing 
that science is notmetaphysically neutral, concluded the conference host 
Steven Dick.He added: We prepare by continuing to question our assumptions 
about the nature of life and intelligence.

 Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp
  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:50 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

A SETI scientist states that this may be the most dominant intelligence in the 
cosmos.  Somehow, it appears that scientists like him are missing something in 
their assessment about the capabilities of biological entities like human 
beings.  It may be possible to communicate with ETs instantaneously with the 
human mind through mental telepathy
I imagine there's a pretty good reason they don't consider things like that at 
scientific conferences. The fact that humans can't do telepathy is probably 
chief among them.
  This can be justified through the principle of quantum entanglement.
Not quite as simple as that, but I'll bet anything it won't be used 
telepathically, communicating with entanglement would require very 
sophisticated equipment, you've got to separate and remove fundamental 
particles and move them about. It's a big job and I'm pretty sure that you need 
to have both particles in the same place to start with to know whether they are 
actually entangled or not.
Trouble is, no one really knows what is happening during entanglement 
experiments. Can subatomic particles communicate faster than light - thus 
destroying our realist concept of space - or is there something we don't know 
about how they work? Perhaps the state of the particle pairs is determined 
before they are separated by some deeper principle we don't yet undertsand.
If they can communicate faster than light than then how do we know from our 
perspective which event causes the other? Or is time an emergent phenomena that 
doesn't apply to the subatomic world? Etc etc. Very interesting subject though 
whatever it's practical uses end turn out to be. 
One thing is for sure if we could use it to communicate with aliens we can use 
it to communicate on Earth. Hopefully we can do that before my laptop wears out 
and I have to fork out for a new one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I base my conclusions on that and on the reports of people I have found to be 
reliable sources.

I agree with that with the early tapes I have seen - but not the ones made in 
the last 10-15 years of his life. Unless you are being obtuse about it. Who can 
see the Scorpion land tapes and not see the judgmental adolescent I'm not 
gettin' what I want attitude?

I too base my assertions partly on what others who were there have told me. 
Mark is not the first nor the last to say that in private Marshy demeaned other 
religions and had contempt for his own followers.




 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com



  
I never felt a negative vibe from Maharishi either when I saw him in person or 
when I watched tapes of him. I base my conclusions on that and on the reports 
of people I have found to be reliable sources.


We understand, Share. You found Maharishi to be trustworthy the same way you 
found Marci Shimoff to be trustworthy when she claimed falsely in your 
presence that she was the best-selling female author of all time. 

Have you ever considered the possibility that your intuition or perception in 
such matters sucks big-time and that you're just a gullible
 idiot?



t of meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to 
the natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of 
the putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate 
them with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that 
people like you actually believed them. 



Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 


But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.


The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 


All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 






 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?






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Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 


If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.





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The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the CIA 
guy.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It might also be points out that the many years of TMSP yogic flying groups and 
courses have had zero effect for freeing the Tibetans from Chinese rule, so in 
essence the Dalai Llama has done at least as much for Tibet as Marshy ever did, 
Benjamin Creme and Maitreya too for that matter.




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Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
 


  
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com



  



I've said The Dolly Lama is just a politician.
And you said that because *Maharishi said it*, in exactly those words. Do you 
call this never entertaining negativity? 

Sounds to me as if Maharishi was just JEALOUS. And with good reason -- the 
Dalai Lama was and still is treated as a revered guest in almost every country 
he visits, meeting with Presidents and world leaders, and treated with respect. 

Maharishi couldn't even *enter* the United States and possibly other countries 
without being arrested. That's why he never left the Netherlands. 

I guess
 being a politician is better for your reputation than being a con man.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I would say that my intuition about people is not always 100% accurate. And 
that I prefer to err in the direction of thinking positively of others. Unless 
they have demonstrated reasons not to.

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 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:35 AM
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    From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

    I never felt a negative vibe from Maharishi either when I saw him in person 
or when I watched tapes of him. I base my conclusions on that and on the 
reports of people I have found to be reliable sources.

We understand, Share. You found Maharishi to be trustworthy the same way you 
found Marci Shimoff to be trustworthy when she claimed falsely in your 
presence that she was the best-selling female author of all time. 

Have you ever considered the possibility that your intuition or perception in 
such matters sucks big-time and that you're just a gullible idiot?

t of meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to 
the natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of 
the putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate 
them with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that 
people like you actually believed them. 

Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

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 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
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 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
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    There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
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 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM
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    The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the 
CIA guy.

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    You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent 
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any 
other competing technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost 
all of them untrue, BTW.)

How many YEARS did Maharishi wallow in his Scorpion nation fixation? And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I never saw any tapes with the Scorpion land phrase. 

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    I base my conclusions on that and on the reports of people I have found to 
be reliable sources.
I agree with that with the early tapes I have seen - but not the ones made in 
the last 10-15 years of his life. Unless you are being obtuse about it. Who can 
see the Scorpion land tapes and not see the judgmental adolescent I'm not 
gettin' what I want attitude?
I too base my assertions partly on what others who were there have told me. 
Mark is not the first nor the last to say that in private Marshy demeaned other 
religions and had contempt for his own followers.

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    From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

    I never felt a negative vibe from Maharishi either when I saw him in person 
or when I watched tapes of him. I base my conclusions on that and on the 
reports of people I have found to be reliable sources.

We understand, Share. You found Maharishi to be trustworthy the same way you 
found Marci Shimoff to be trustworthy when she claimed falsely in your 
presence that she was the best-selling female author of all time. 

Have you ever considered the possibility that your intuition or perception in 
such matters sucks big-time and that you're just a gullible idiot?

t of meditation and immediately think forced or unnatural or contrary to 
the natural tendency of the mind or causes headaches, those are examples of 
the putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate 
them with the word concentration shows that they *were* taught, and that 
people like you actually believed them. 

Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because 
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and 
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi 
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out 
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without 
reason. 

But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you 
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just 
as you are doing.

The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to 
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY 
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or 
organizations he considered his competitors or against him (because he was 
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often entertained these negative 
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the Scorpion nation thang and 
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him. 

All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're 
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend. 

 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

    What is absolute proof in this context? Are you offering absolute proof 
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + 
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    There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share. 

If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting 
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by 
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

2014-11-13 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I see a face, don't you? 

 He's got a scowl, and a crooked mouth.  His left eye is visible, but right eye 
mostly hidden.
 

 If I had to interpret his expression, it would be,
 

 Jesus Christ you guys, did ya have to land on my freakin chin!?
 

 I have revised my estimation. I think the face looks more like Foghorn Leghorn 
or some other chicken. See it facing to the right with its bill and eye and 
wattles? It must be a sign that aliens adore Kentucky Fried.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:
 

 

 

 Rugged as hell. And cold. Br. I wonder if there's a Starbucks just around 
the corner, that projecting piece of rock that looks like Woody Wood Pecker's 
face.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

More nonsense from the Turq. Earlier this year when the lama did his European 
tour not a single head of State in ANY European country wanted to meet with 
him. Even most MP's didn't want to see him, and as far as I know he wasn't 
invited to a single Parliament in the whole of Europe. Reverend quest ? I don't 
think so.
 It was so embarrassing for the lama that when he found out that he was not 
welcome he quickly changed the theme of his trip to one of meetings in Buddhist 
centres instead. Which he did, leading the banging of bells, exchanging of 
scarves and some singsong. That's about it. 
 Later it has been revealed that the lama-guy now blames the Chinese for his 
troubles.
 The Turq's distortion of how his guru is perceived is as distorted as just 
about everything else he writes in here.
 

 the Dalai Lama was and still is treated as a revered guest in almost every 
country he visits, meeting with Presidents and world leaders, and treated with 
respect.



 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
   I've said The Dolly Lama is just a politician.
 

And you said that because *Maharishi said it*, in exactly those words. Do you 
call this never entertaining negativity? 

Sounds to me as if Maharishi was just JEALOUS. And with good reason -- the 
Dalai Lama was and still is treated as a revered guest in almost every country 
he visits, meeting with Presidents and world leaders, and treated with respect. 

Maharishi couldn't even *enter* the United States and possibly other countries 
without being arrested. That's why he never left the Netherlands. 

I guess being a politician is better for your reputation than being a con man.  
:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

More nonsense from the Turq. Earlier this year when the lama did his European 
tour not a single head of State in ANY European country wanted to meet with 
him. Even most MP's didn't want to see him, and as far as I know he wasn't 
invited to a single Parliament in the whole of Europe. Reverend quest ? I don't 
think so.
 It was so embarrassing for the lama that when he found out that he was not 
welcome he quickly changed the theme of his trip to one of meetings in Buddhist 
centres instead. Which he did, leading the banging of bells, exchanging of 
scarves and some singsong. That's about it.
 Later it has been revealed that the lama-guy now blames the Chinese for his 
troubles in Europe not wanting to admit that European leaders see him as a 
loser going down a dead-end-street leading nowhere.
 The Turq's distortion of how his guru is perceived is as distorted as just 
about everything else he writes in here.
 

 the Dalai Lama was and still is treated as a revered guest in almost every 
country he visits, meeting with Presidents and world leaders, and treated with 
respect.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
   I've said The Dolly Lama is just a politician.
 

And you said that because *Maharishi said it*, in exactly those words. Do you 
call this never entertaining negativity? 

Sounds to me as if Maharishi was just JEALOUS. And with good reason -- the 
Dalai Lama was and still is treated as a revered guest in almost every country 
he visits, meeting with Presidents and world leaders, and treated with respect. 

Maharishi couldn't even *enter* the United States and possibly other countries 
without being arrested. That's why he never left the Netherlands. 

I guess being a politician is better for your reputation than being a con man.  
:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

damn - I'd go for the science first, and then cross my fingers and try to 
re-position. No matter what they find, just to be able to DO it, is 
accomplishment enough - Hope they get the solar going.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Too cool! I guess the harpoon is holding. I wonder how long the transmissions 
to earth and return, take? 
 

 About half an hour to get a message there. But it's not all good news, they 
think it's on its side in a crater and if they can't get the solar panels to 
work the batteries will run out in 60 hours. 
 

 According to their twitter feed they're trying to decide whether it's worth 
the risk of getting it to jump about a bit so they can maybe get it upright and 
then fire the harpoons again to lock it in place. But they can't decide whether 
to do the most important sciencey bit first in case it flies off into space!
 

 This means drilling into the surface to look at what the dust cloud of early 
solar system was made from, this bit of rock has been hanging around for 3.5 
billion years with all these secrets, I hope they can get something good out of 
it.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Son, as a transcendentalist I well know the reality of my inner experience with 
this and for that I am quite a satisfied customer of the transcending 
meditation experience. I know and can certainly trust in the clarity of that 
reality by the science of my experience, thank you for asking. I am not going 
to get down in to your mud to wrestle with you point by point about George 
Bush, life is too short for that. However there is in deed a discerning and 
practical spiritual aspect of caution to what Maharishi is getting at with his 
negativity talk around spiritual practice. I find it wise to take that to 
heart. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck
 

 turquoiseb wrote :
 
 Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 

 

 

 
 Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane 
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain 
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're 
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with 
reality?
 

 

 So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that if one 
entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the subtle. One may 
even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems is 
like an entity lodging in the system spiritually. Like a stress snag, an 
entity, like some would call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric 
of the subtle system. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck
 


 
 Dear FFL, 
 Culturally this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's 
teaching on negativity is really important. It did not just show up here. 
 And so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB here 
having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect what they may 
well think is their spiritual lives from what they had experienced as a culture 
of ethical negativity that was TM, so they seem to say. But yet as these guys 
wallow in their stories even years later does this not continue to bring on 
them their own negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is 
teaching here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these guys. 
It would be more better if they should be silent about these things of their 
past and not just keep dredging it up. They really should stop all this 
negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a larger collective good 
of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about the larger collective good for 
it seems that Maharishi actually was not talking about collective good or 
organizations in these early discourse but more specifically individual 
spiritual systems. I do hope that their apostate subtle systems may recover in 
field effect and come to some equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
 Sincerely, 
 -Buck 
 

 Maharishi on Negativity:
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800
 

 

 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

 Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
 
 
 

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
 
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's 
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.
 
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.
 
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think 
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking 
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities 
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.
 
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.
 
Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes 
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in 
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important.  
It is as important as daily practice of meditation.
 
In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man did some 
great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would cover his body with a 
cloth like that and will go to any village. Standing out of the village, he 
would

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2014-11-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

looks like the yagya is working ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

2014-11-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Those are the *only* things that are alive, and they are within everything.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive? 
Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive?
 

 From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
 
 
   Share,
 

 It all depends on what you believe is the basis of the universe.  If you 
believe that consciousness is the basis of the universe, it is likely that you 
would say biological intelligence is the more common way of development.  This 
is because we know this happens on earth where humans exist.
 

 Non-biological intelligence implies that this is created by another type of 
beings--more likely humans or biological entities.  I can see how a 
non-biological intelligence could be an advantage.   For example, robots can 
direct and maintain the functions of a spaceship for centuries, without eating 
and sleeping like humans, until the destination is reached.
 

 In the distant future, humans could develop these intelligent robots to take 
human sperms and eggs to a nearby or distant star in the Milky Way.  When an 
earthlike planet is reached or found, the robots can artificially inseminate 
the eggs with sperms to grow human beings who will populate or repopulate the 
new world.
 

 But if there is a faster way to get to the other worlds, then the assumptions 
would be different.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 John and salyavin, thanks, I enjoyed both these articles and thoroughly 
appreciate the concluding remarks:
 
 So, how do we prepare for something we know so little about? We do so by 
continuing to do good science, but also by realizing that science is not 
metaphysically neutral, concluded the conference host Steven Dick.
 He added: We prepare by continuing to question our assumptions about the 
nature of life http://phys.org/tags/life/ and intelligence.


 Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp 
http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:50 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 A SETI scientist states that this may be the most dominant intelligence in the 
cosmos.  Somehow, it appears that scientists like him are missing something in 
their assessment about the capabilities of biological entities like human 
beings.  
 It may be possible to communicate with ETs instantaneously with the human mind 
through mental telepathy
 

 I imagine there's a pretty good reason they don't consider things like that at 
scientific conferences. The fact that humans can't do telepathy is probably 
chief among them.
 

   This can be justified through the principle of quantum entanglement.
 

 Not quite as simple as that, but I'll bet anything it won't be used 
telepathically, communicating with entanglement would require very 
sophisticated equipment, you've got to separate and remove fundamental 
particles and move them about. It's a big job and I'm pretty sure that you need 
to have both particles in the same place to start with to know whether they are 
actually entangled or not.
 

 Trouble is, no one really knows what is happening during entanglement 
experiments. Can subatomic particles communicate faster than light - thus 
destroying our realist concept of space - or is there something we don't know 
about how they work? Perhaps the state of the particle pairs is determined 
before they are separated by some deeper principle we don't yet undertsand.
 

 If they can communicate faster than light than then how do we know from our 
perspective which event causes the other? Or is time an emergent phenomena that 
doesn't apply to the subatomic world? Etc etc. Very interesting subject though 
whatever it's practical uses end turn out to be. 
 

 One thing is for sure if we could use it to communicate with aliens we can use 
it to communicate on Earth. Hopefully we can do that before my laptop wears out 
and I have to fork out for a new one...
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

 

 

 

 Preparing for alien life http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html

 
 
 http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html
 
 Preparing for alien life http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html At a 
recent event sponsored by NASA and the Library of Congress, a group of 
scientists and scholars explored how we might prepare for the inevitable 
discove...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

2014-11-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 damn - I'd go for the science first, and then cross my fingers and try to 
re-position. No matter what they find, just to be able to DO it, is 
accomplishment enough - Hope they get the solar going.

The current plan is to do what they can with the drilling done last because 
that will possibly send it off into space. They are all pleased anyway as it 
was a long shot even getting where they are now!
 

 Even if the worst case happens they'll get most of what they went for, we just 
won't be able to see it start to break up as it forms a tail near the sun 
which'd be cool to see but you never know, they might pull off a miracle.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Too cool! I guess the harpoon is holding. I wonder how long the transmissions 
to earth and return, take? 
 

 About half an hour to get a message there. But it's not all good news, they 
think it's on its side in a crater and if they can't get the solar panels to 
work the batteries will run out in 60 hours. 
 

 According to their twitter feed they're trying to decide whether it's worth 
the risk of getting it to jump about a bit so they can maybe get it upright and 
then fire the harpoons again to lock it in place. But they can't decide whether 
to do the most important sciencey bit first in case it flies off into space!
 

 This means drilling into the surface to look at what the dust cloud of early 
solar system was made from, this bit of rock has been hanging around for 3.5 
billion years with all these secrets, I hope they can get something good out of 
it.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

ah, yes, makes sense - I forget that the torque and momentum associated with 
the drilling, are serious business, out there - no back up. Would be cool to 
see more of its journey.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 damn - I'd go for the science first, and then cross my fingers and try to 
re-position. No matter what they find, just to be able to DO it, is 
accomplishment enough - Hope they get the solar going.

The current plan is to do what they can with the drilling done last because 
that will possibly send it off into space. They are all pleased anyway as it 
was a long shot even getting where they are now!
 

 Even if the worst case happens they'll get most of what they went for, we just 
won't be able to see it start to break up as it forms a tail near the sun 
which'd be cool to see but you never know, they might pull off a miracle.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Too cool! I guess the harpoon is holding. I wonder how long the transmissions 
to earth and return, take? 
 

 About half an hour to get a message there. But it's not all good news, they 
think it's on its side in a crater and if they can't get the solar panels to 
work the batteries will run out in 60 hours. 
 

 According to their twitter feed they're trying to decide whether it's worth 
the risk of getting it to jump about a bit so they can maybe get it upright and 
then fire the harpoons again to lock it in place. But they can't decide whether 
to do the most important sciencey bit first in case it flies off into space!
 

 This means drilling into the surface to look at what the dust cloud of early 
solar system was made from, this bit of rock has been hanging around for 3.5 
billion years with all these secrets, I hope they can get something good out of 
it.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Ann, 

 The power of the feminine is recognized in Christianity.  The Catholic Church 
considers the Virgin Mary as the Mother of God and the Queen of Heaven.  What 
else do you want?
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Code novel.  That leaves the 
people to ask: who were the descendants of Jesus and Mary, and where are they 
now? 

 Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiah would completely 
change the present Christian theology.  As such, I believe the orthodoxy would 
completely reject the validity of the manuscript.
 

 Absolutely. First, I think many Christians like the idea of Jesus as some sort 
of asexual virgin, second, I am pretty sure they wouldn't like the idea of a 
WOMAN as messiah or anyone near the same import as Jesus Christ. I mean, it's 
okay for a woman (Mary) to have given physical birth to Jesus but not if she 
had others powers to boot. The mere idea of Mary Magdalene being not only a sex 
partner of Jesus' but having status near Godly is reason to have relegated her 
to a foot washing ex prostitute for all these years.
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of his 
children, according to a translation of an ancient manuscript.

 http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com



  
Son,... 


How old are you, Buck? I'll bet I'm older than you are. 


...as a transcendentalist I well know the reality of my inner experience
with this and for that I am quite a satisfied customer of the
transcending meditation experience. 


I have no problem with this, and am in fact happy for you that your inner 
experience has been good for you. What I object to is your assumption that 
YOUR inner experience means diddleysquat to anyone else or is good for them. 
Or even that it should. 


I know and can certainly trust in the clarity of that
reality by the science of my experience, thank you for asking. 


That reality isn't one. It's only your inner experience. 

YOUR INNER EXPERIENCE IS NOT REALITY. IT'S ONLY YOUR INNER EXPERIENCE. 


Get it?


I am
not going to get down in to your mud to wrestle with you point by
point about George Bush, life is too short for that.  However there is in deed
a discerning and practical spiritual aspect of caution to what
Maharishi is getting at with his negativity talk around spiritual
practice.  I find it wise to take that to heart.  Jai Guru Dev, 
-Buck

Sorry, but I can't take to heart the possibility that anyone who still tries 
to end rants by invoking the thoughtstopper Jai Guru Dev could possibly be 
wise.  




turquoiseb wrote :


Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 



Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at
worst an insane person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. 
Can you explain to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the 
memories of him you're trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had 
anything to do with reality?


So
evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that
if one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the
subtle.  One may even take on the energetics in the subtle.
Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the
system spiritually.  Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would
call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle
system.   There is proly some truth to that. -Buck





Dear
FFL, 
Culturally
this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's teaching on
negativity is really important.  It did not just show up here.  
And
so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB
here having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect
what they may well think is their spiritual lives from what they had
experienced as a culture of ethical negativity that was TM, so they
seem to say.  But yet as these guys wallow in their stories even
years later does this not continue to bring on them their own
negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is teaching
here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these
guys.  It would be more better if they should be silent about these
things of their past and not just keep dredging it up.They really
should stop all this negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a 
larger
collective good of everyone.  Om, strike that last comment about the
larger collective good for it seems that Maharishi actually was not
talking about collective good or organizations in these early
discourse but more specifically individual spiritual systems.I do hope that 
their
apostate subtle systems may recover in field effect and come to some
equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
Sincerely,  
-Buck 

Maharishi
on Negativity:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800



https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :


Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
 

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
 
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can.
And never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble way it 
may be.
 
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.
 
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think 
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking 
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities 
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.
 
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.
 
Speaking ill of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children

Share, 

 We should all keep a close eye on what Pope Francis is saying these days.  
Some reporters have stated that Pope Francis believes the Virgin Mary is equal 
to God and that Jesus has been demoted.  If true, that would really shake all 
of the Christian Churches.
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 Richard and John, imo, what we're seeing now is patriarchal spirituality in 
its death throes and the re emergence of the feminine divine as co creator. 

 

 Plus which there may have been another Mary, one who was a prostitute. Or 
maybe these various Marys, virgin, wife and prostitute are aspects of the 
collective psyche.

 

 From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children
 
 
   
 On 11/13/2014 1:43 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
 
   This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Code novel.  


 
  For nearly 2,000 years, Mary Magdalene was believed to be a prostitute who 
repented and became a disciple of Jesus, but, the truth about her is finally 
emerging. She was almost certainly not a prostitute, but a wealthy woman whose 
support helped early Christianity to survive. 
 
 Mary Magdalene could have been Jesus' concubine or even his wife. The Bible 
doesn't say what her realtionship was with Jesus except that she was a devoted 
follower and supporter. The early Gnostic Gospels have no hesitation describing 
the relationship between Mary Magdalene and Jesus.
 
 The death of Jesus could have been a plot to deceive the authorities. Maybe it 
was a robber that was hung on the cross and maybe Jesus escaped with Mary to go 
live in France. Go figure. 
 
 Read more:
 
 'Venus in Sackcloth'
 by Marjorie Malvern
 Penguin, 1995
 
 
 That leaves the people to ask: who were the descendants of Jesus and Mary, and 
where are they now?
 

 Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiah would completely 
change the present Christian theology.  As such, I believe the orthodoxy would 
completely reject the validity of the manuscript.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote :
 
 Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of his 
children, according to a translation of an ancient manuscript.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

Share, 

 Yes, IMO consciousness is alive.  The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna 
asked Krishna to show his true self.  And, Krishna showed a vision of  infinite 
types of beings to disclose who He is.
 

 On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the I AM Who AM.
 

 However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of 
Consciousness in a human form.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive? 
Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive?
 

 From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
 
 
   Share,
 

 It all depends on what you believe is the basis of the universe.  If you 
believe that consciousness is the basis of the universe, it is likely that you 
would say biological intelligence is the more common way of development.  This 
is because we know this happens on earth where humans exist.
 

 Non-biological intelligence implies that this is created by another type of 
beings--more likely humans or biological entities.  I can see how a 
non-biological intelligence could be an advantage.   For example, robots can 
direct and maintain the functions of a spaceship for centuries, without eating 
and sleeping like humans, until the destination is reached.
 

 In the distant future, humans could develop these intelligent robots to take 
human sperms and eggs to a nearby or distant star in the Milky Way.  When an 
earthlike planet is reached or found, the robots can artificially inseminate 
the eggs with sperms to grow human beings who will populate or repopulate the 
new world.
 

 But if there is a faster way to get to the other worlds, then the assumptions 
would be different.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 John and salyavin, thanks, I enjoyed both these articles and thoroughly 
appreciate the concluding remarks:
 
 So, how do we prepare for something we know so little about? We do so by 
continuing to do good science, but also by realizing that science is not 
metaphysically neutral, concluded the conference host Steven Dick.
 He added: We prepare by continuing to question our assumptions about the 
nature of life http://phys.org/tags/life/ and intelligence.


 Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp 
http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:50 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 A SETI scientist states that this may be the most dominant intelligence in the 
cosmos.  Somehow, it appears that scientists like him are missing something in 
their assessment about the capabilities of biological entities like human 
beings.  
 It may be possible to communicate with ETs instantaneously with the human mind 
through mental telepathy
 

 I imagine there's a pretty good reason they don't consider things like that at 
scientific conferences. The fact that humans can't do telepathy is probably 
chief among them.
 

   This can be justified through the principle of quantum entanglement.
 

 Not quite as simple as that, but I'll bet anything it won't be used 
telepathically, communicating with entanglement would require very 
sophisticated equipment, you've got to separate and remove fundamental 
particles and move them about. It's a big job and I'm pretty sure that you need 
to have both particles in the same place to start with to know whether they are 
actually entangled or not.
 

 Trouble is, no one really knows what is happening during entanglement 
experiments. Can subatomic particles communicate faster than light - thus 
destroying our realist concept of space - or is there something we don't know 
about how they work? Perhaps the state of the particle pairs is determined 
before they are separated by some deeper principle we don't yet undertsand.
 

 If they can communicate faster than light than then how do we know from our 
perspective which event causes the other? Or is time an emergent phenomena that 
doesn't apply to the subatomic world? Etc etc. Very interesting subject though 
whatever it's practical uses end turn out to be. 
 

 One thing is for sure if we could use it to communicate with aliens we can use 
it to communicate on Earth. Hopefully we can do that before my laptop wears out 
and I have to fork out for a new one...
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

 

 

 

 Preparing for alien life http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html

 
 
 http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html
 
 Preparing for alien life

[FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Ann, 

 The power of the feminine is recognized in Christianity.  The Catholic Church 
considers the Virgin Mary as the Mother of God and the Queen of Heaven.  What 
else do you want?
 
 Female Bishops?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Code novel.  That leaves the 
people to ask: who were the descendants of Jesus and Mary, and where are they 
now? 

 Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiah would completely 
change the present Christian theology.  As such, I believe the orthodoxy would 
completely reject the validity of the manuscript.
 

 Absolutely. First, I think many Christians like the idea of Jesus as some sort 
of asexual virgin, second, I am pretty sure they wouldn't like the idea of a 
WOMAN as messiah or anyone near the same import as Jesus Christ. I mean, it's 
okay for a woman (Mary) to have given physical birth to Jesus but not if she 
had others powers to boot. The mere idea of Mary Magdalene being not only a sex 
partner of Jesus' but having status near Godly is reason to have relegated her 
to a foot washing ex prostitute for all these years.
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of his 
children, according to a translation of an ancient manuscript.

 http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good


On 11/13/2014 1:03 PM, TurquoiseBee  wrote:

Sorry, but I can't take to heart the possibility that anyone who 
still tries to end rants by invoking the thoughtstopper Jai Guru Dev 
could possibly be wise.


/Now that's a thought-stopper!/

[FairfieldLife] Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I really hate to be the person to have to explain this to you, JR, but the 
Bhagavad-Gita, the Old Testament, and the New Testament are all FICTION. You 
don't win philosophical discussions by invoking them, any more than if you 
had invoked the Harry Potter books.

 From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

Share,

Yes, IMO consciousness is alive.  The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna 
asked Krishna to show his true self.  And, Krishna showed a vision of  infinite 
types of beings to disclose who He is.

On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the I AM Who AM.

However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of 
Consciousness in a human form.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive? 
Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive?

 From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

Share,

It all depends on what you believe is the basis of the universe.  If you 
believe that consciousness is the basis of the universe, it is likely that you 
would say biological intelligence is the more common way of development.  This 
is because we know this happens on earth where humans exist.

Non-biological intelligence implies that this is created by another type of 
beings--more likely humans or biological entities.  I can see how a 
non-biological intelligence could be an advantage.   For example, robots can 
direct and maintain the functions of a spaceship for centuries, without eating 
and sleeping like humans, until the destination is reached.

In the distant future, humans could develop these intelligent robots to take 
human sperms and eggs to a nearby or distant star in the Milky Way.  When an 
earthlike planet is reached or found, the robots can artificially inseminate 
the eggs with sperms to grow human beings who will populate or repopulate the 
new world.

But if there is a faster way to get to the other worlds, then the assumptions 
would be different.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

John and salyavin, thanks, I enjoyed both these articles and thoroughly 
appreciate the concluding remarks:
So, how do we
prepare for something we know so little about? We do so by continuing
to do good science, but also by realizing that science is not
metaphysically neutral, concluded the conference host Steven Dick.
He added: We prepare by continuing to question our assumptions about the 
nature of life and intelligence.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:50 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

A SETI scientist states that this may be the most dominant intelligence in the 
cosmos.  Somehow, it appears that scientists like him are missing something in 
their assessment about the capabilities of biological entities like human 
beings.  
It may be possible to communicate with ETs instantaneously with the human mind 
through mental telepathy

I imagine there's a pretty good reason they don't consider things like that at 
scientific conferences. The fact that humans can't do telepathy is probably 
chief among them.

  This can be justified through the principle of quantum entanglement.

Not quite as simple as that, but I'll bet anything it won't be used 
telepathically, communicating with entanglement would require very 
sophisticated equipment, you've got to separate and remove fundamental 
particles and move them about. It's a big job and I'm pretty sure that you need 
to have both particles in the same place to start with to know whether they are 
actually entangled or not.

Trouble is, no one really knows what is happening during entanglement 
experiments. Can subatomic particles communicate faster than light - thus 
destroying our realist concept of space - or is there something we don't know 
about how they work? Perhaps the state of the particle pairs is determined 
before they are separated by some deeper principle we don't yet undertsand.

If they can communicate faster than light than then how do we know from our 
perspective which event causes the other? Or is time an emergent phenomena that 
doesn't apply to the subatomic world? Etc etc. Very interesting subject though 
whatever it's practical uses end turn out to be. 

One thing is for sure if we could use it to communicate with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children

2014-11-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :


Ann,

The power of the feminine is recognized in Christianity.  The Catholic Church 
considers the Virgin Mary as the Mother of God and the Queen of Heaven.  What 
else do you want?


Female Bishops?


The ability to make their own decisions about matters that relate to their own 
bodies, without being damned to Hell for it by men who pretend to be celibate 
while buttfucking young altar boys? 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :


This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Code novel.  That leaves the 
people to ask: who were the descendants of Jesus and Mary, and where are they 
now?

Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiah would completely change 
the present Christian theology.  As such, I believe the orthodoxy would 
completely reject the validity of the manuscript.

Absolutely. First, I think many Christians like the idea of Jesus as some sort 
of asexual virgin, second, I am pretty sure they wouldn't like the idea of a 
WOMAN as messiah or anyone near the same import as Jesus Christ. I mean, it's 
okay for a woman (Mary) to have given physical birth to Jesus but not if she 
had others powers to boot. The mere idea of Mary Magdalene being not only a sex 
partner of Jesus' but having status near Godly is reason to have relegated her 
to a foot washing ex prostitute for all these years.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :


Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of his 
children, according to a translation of an ancient manuscript.

http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b

[FairfieldLife] Dumping On Other Belief Systems, was Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/13/2014 9:18 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I think we only need to look at the things Nabby has said about 
Buddhism and Buddhists on this forum to see what he learned from his 
teacher Maharishi about dumping on other religions and belief systems. 


Now this is funny - /an informant is complaining about dumping on other 
teachers and belief systems, when everyone knows he dumped on both of 
his teachers and their belief systems. Go figure./

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

2014-11-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

If I remember correctly John, didn't Arjuna quake before that image of Krishna 
and beg Him to return to His more human form?
Ok, Fleetwood and John,  I can see how the personal God is alive. But what 
about impersonal Beingness? Is that also alive?

  From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

    Share,
Yes, IMO consciousness is alive.  The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna 
asked Krishna to show his true self.  And, Krishna showed a vision of  infinite 
types of beings to disclose who He is.
On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the I AM Who AM.
However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of 
Consciousness in a human form.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive? 
Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive?

  From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

 Share,
It all depends on what you believe is the basis of the universe.  If you 
believe that consciousness is the basis of the universe, it is likely that you 
would say biological intelligence is the more common way of development.  This 
is because we know this happens on earth where humans exist.
Non-biological intelligence implies that this is created by another type of 
beings--more likely humans or biological entities.  I can see how a 
non-biological intelligence could be an advantage.   For example, robots can 
direct and maintain the functions of a spaceship for centuries, without eating 
and sleeping like humans, until the destination is reached.
In the distant future, humans could develop these intelligent robots to take 
human sperms and eggs to a nearby or distant star in the Milky Way.  When an 
earthlike planet is reached or found, the robots can artificially inseminate 
the eggs with sperms to grow human beings who will populate or repopulate the 
new world.
But if there is a faster way to get to the other worlds, then the assumptions 
would be different.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

John and salyavin, thanks, I enjoyed both these articles and thoroughly 
appreciate the concluding remarks:So, how do weprepare for something we know so 
little about? We do so by continuingto do good science, but also by realizing 
that science is notmetaphysically neutral, concluded the conference host 
Steven Dick.He added: We prepare by continuing to question our assumptions 
about the nature of life and intelligence.

 Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp
  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:50 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

A SETI scientist states that this may be the most dominant intelligence in the 
cosmos.  Somehow, it appears that scientists like him are missing something in 
their assessment about the capabilities of biological entities like human 
beings.  It may be possible to communicate with ETs instantaneously with the 
human mind through mental telepathy
I imagine there's a pretty good reason they don't consider things like that at 
scientific conferences. The fact that humans can't do telepathy is probably 
chief among them.
  This can be justified through the principle of quantum entanglement.
Not quite as simple as that, but I'll bet anything it won't be used 
telepathically, communicating with entanglement would require very 
sophisticated equipment, you've got to separate and remove fundamental 
particles and move them about. It's a big job and I'm pretty sure that you need 
to have both particles in the same place to start with to know whether they are 
actually entangled or not.
Trouble is, no one really knows what is happening during entanglement 
experiments. Can subatomic particles communicate faster than light - thus 
destroying our realist concept of space - or is there something we don't know 
about how they work? Perhaps the state of the particle pairs is determined 
before they are separated by some deeper principle we don't yet undertsand.
If they can communicate faster than light than then how do we know from our 
perspective which event causes the other? Or is time an emergent phenomena that 
doesn't apply to the subatomic world? Etc etc. Very interesting subject though 
whatever it's practical uses end turn out to be. 
One thing is for sure if we could use it to communicate with aliens we can use 
it to communicate on Earth. Hopefully we can do that before my laptop wears out 
and I have to fork out for a new

[FairfieldLife] Speaking Ill Of Others, was Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/13/2014 7:01 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:

To ignore the past is to repeat it. Given the track record of both 
Marshy and the TMO of lying and underhanded behavior it is easy to see 
how untrustworthy all Marshy had to say was and how untrustworthy the 
TMO is of any trust.


//It really doesn't matter now why you were fired, whether you lied or 
not or were untrustworthy or not. /You just need to stop living in the 
past and face reality:


You were fired from your campus bus-boy job because you sucked at it - 
and given your track record on FFL - you got canned probably because of 
your big pie hole.


They said your services were no longer needed and to CLEAR OUT YOUR POD!

//All we need to know is that YOU WILL NEVER BAKE CUP CAKES FOR BEVAN ON 
THE MUM CAMPUS AGAIN./

[FairfieldLife] Re: Incredible

2014-11-13 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re I think it is so easy to forget what has been sacrificed for certain 
freedoms and also for stupid reasons: 

 Sainsbury has produced a Christmas TV ad based on the actual occasion in 1914 
when Brit and German troops fraternized on Christmas Day, 1914. It's attracted 
criticism for exploiting the event for commercial reasons but it seems rather a 
sweet clip to me. Bars of chocolate (mimicking the design of the one featured 
in the ad) will be sold in Sainsbury stores with all profits going to veterans' 
charities.
 

 What do you make of it? 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWF2JBb1bvM 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWF2JBb1bvM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

If you really feel that way then you should be willing for Marshy to have 
walked his own talk which he did not do. 

 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others  +  
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good

Son,
as a transcendentalist I well know the reality of my inner experience
with this and for that I am quite a satisfied customer of the
transcending meditation experience.  I know and can certainly trust in the 
clarity of that
reality by the science of my experience, thank you for asking.  I am
not going to get down in to your mud to wrestle with you point by
point about George Bush, life is too short for that.  However there is in deed
a discerning and practical spiritual aspect of caution to what
Maharishi is getting at with his negativity talk around spiritual
practice.  I find it wise to take that to heart.  Jai Guru Dev, 
-Buck

turquoiseb wrote :

Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. 

Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in 
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at
worst an insane person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. 
Can you explain to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the 
memories of him you're trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had 
anything to do with reality?

So
evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that
if one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the
subtle.  One may even take on the energetics in the subtle.
Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the
system spiritually.  Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would
call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle
system.   There is proly some truth to that. -Buck

Dear
FFL, 
Culturally
this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's teaching on
negativity is really important.  It did not just show up here.  
And
so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB
here having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect
what they may well think is their spiritual lives from what they had
experienced as a culture of ethical negativity that was TM, so they
seem to say.  But yet as these guys wallow in their stories even
years later does this not continue to bring on them their own
negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is teaching
here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these
guys.  It would be more better if they should be silent about these
things of their past and not just keep dredging it up.They really
should stop all this negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a 
larger
collective good of everyone.  Om, strike that last comment about the
larger collective good for it seems that Maharishi actually was not
talking about collective good or organizations in these early
discourse but more specifically individual spiritual systems.I do hope that 
their
apostate subtle systems may recover in field effect and come to some
equanimity around their own individual time in TM.
Sincerely,  
-Buck 

Maharishi
on Negativity:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others

Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964

Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of 
this meditation in whatever capacity one can.
And never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble way it 
may be.

One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for 
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and 
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.

But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think 
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking 
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities 
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.

So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud 
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our 
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone 
naturally.

Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes 
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in 
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important.  
It is as important as daily practice of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Comet up close!

2014-11-13 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


Maybe a friendly alien will come along and upright it.

On 11/13/2014 10:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

damn - I'd go for the science first, and then cross my fingers and try 
to re-position. No matter what they find, just to be able to DO it, is 
accomplishment enough - Hope they get the solar going.


The current plan is to do what they can with the drilling done last 
because that will possibly send it off into space. They are all 
pleased anyway as it was a long shot even getting where they are now!


Even if the worst case happens they'll get most of what they went for, 
we just won't be able to see it start to break up as it forms a tail 
near the sun which'd be cool to see but you never know, they might 
pull off a miracle.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

Too cool! I guess the harpoon is holding. I wonder how long the 
transmissions to earth and return, take?


About half an hour to get a message there. But it's not all good news, 
they think it's on its side in a crater and if they can't get the 
solar panels to work the batteries will run out in 60 hours.


According to their twitter feed they're trying to decide whether it's 
worth the risk of getting it to jump about a bit so they can maybe get 
it upright and then fire the harpoons again to lock it in place. But 
they can't decide whether to do the most important sciencey bit first 
in case it flies off into space!


This means drilling into the surface to look at what the dust cloud of 
early solar system was made from, this bit of rock has been hanging 
around for 3.5 billion years with all these secrets, I hope they can 
get something good out of it.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

This is what a comet looks like when you are sitting on it:


First image from the surface of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko from 
the Rosetta million’s lander Philae

[FairfieldLife] For those who like tech stuff

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

http://phys.org/news/2014-11-lighter-cheaper-radio-device-telecommunications.html#ajTabs
  
 
Lighter, cheaper radio wave device could transform telec...
Researchers at the Cockrell School of Engineering at The University of Texas at 
Austin have achieved a milestone in modern wireless and cellular 
telecommunications,...  
View on phys.org Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Grimm's Tales

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I'm sure someone will make a bunch of movies out of it.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/nov/12/grimm-brothers-fairytales-horror-new-translation

[FairfieldLife] CIA and Maharishi, was Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/13/2014 6:49 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:


There has never BEEN a CIA guy, Share.


/There's only one informant on this list that writes and reports science 
articles for a magazine back in the USA. And only one military brat 
posting from a Netherlands bar. Apparently there are lurking reporters 
on FFL and meeting for lunch at cafes in Leiden and Amsterdam. Everyone 
already knows this./


If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his 
paranoia acting itself out, not anything else.


/If anyone think the Maharishi freaked out, you should have seen Fred 
Lenz freak out when he found out that the IRS, the CIA and the FBI were 
onto him. That's about the time Barry got kicked out of the Lenz cult 
and came over to report to Google Groups as an informant./


Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by absolute proof is just the 
self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.


/Barry sounds like he is in denial - apparently the CIA followed Barry 
over to the Fred Lenz cult - it was all over the newspapers including a 
story in Wired Magazine. Why Barry would want to deny this now is beyond 
me - it's a matter of record. Go figure./

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)

2014-11-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

Barry, 

 Humans are limited and conditioned beings.  Enlightened beings who have 
understood Being have to show the rest of us in concrete words and deeds the 
experience of the unified field.  Philosophy and its fancy words and ideas, for 
me, do not convey the real meaning.
 

 So, you would have to use discretion in concluding that the world's wisdom 
books are fiction.  A person, who makes criticisms and conclusions without 
reasonable and logical basis, is a fool.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 I really hate to be the person to have to explain this to you, JR, but the 
Bhagavad-Gita, the Old Testament, and the New Testament are all FICTION. You 
don't win philosophical discussions by invoking them, any more than if you 
had invoked the Harry Potter books.


 From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
 
 
   Share,
 

 Yes, IMO consciousness is alive.  The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna 
asked Krishna to show his true self.  And, Krishna showed a vision of  infinite 
types of beings to disclose who He is.
 

 On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the I AM Who AM.
 

 However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of 
Consciousness in a human form.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive? 
Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive?
 

 From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
 
 
   Share,
 

 It all depends on what you believe is the basis of the universe.  If you 
believe that consciousness is the basis of the universe, it is likely that you 
would say biological intelligence is the more common way of development.  This 
is because we know this happens on earth where humans exist.
 

 Non-biological intelligence implies that this is created by another type of 
beings--more likely humans or biological entities.  I can see how a 
non-biological intelligence could be an advantage.   For example, robots can 
direct and maintain the functions of a spaceship for centuries, without eating 
and sleeping like humans, until the destination is reached.
 

 In the distant future, humans could develop these intelligent robots to take 
human sperms and eggs to a nearby or distant star in the Milky Way.  When an 
earthlike planet is reached or found, the robots can artificially inseminate 
the eggs with sperms to grow human beings who will populate or repopulate the 
new world.
 

 But if there is a faster way to get to the other worlds, then the assumptions 
would be different.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 John and salyavin, thanks, I enjoyed both these articles and thoroughly 
appreciate the concluding remarks:
 
 So, how do we prepare for something we know so little about? We do so by 
continuing to do good science, but also by realizing that science is not 
metaphysically neutral, concluded the conference host Steven Dick.
 He added: We prepare by continuing to question our assumptions about the 
nature of life http://phys.org/tags/life/ and intelligence.


 Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp 
http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:50 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 A SETI scientist states that this may be the most dominant intelligence in the 
cosmos.  Somehow, it appears that scientists like him are missing something in 
their assessment about the capabilities of biological entities like human 
beings.  
 It may be possible to communicate with ETs instantaneously with the human mind 
through mental telepathy
 

 I imagine there's a pretty good reason they don't consider things like that at 
scientific conferences. The fact that humans can't do telepathy is probably 
chief among them.
 

   This can be justified through the principle of quantum entanglement.
 

 Not quite as simple as that, but I'll bet anything it won't be used 
telepathically, communicating with entanglement would require very 
sophisticated equipment, you've got to separate and remove fundamental 
particles and move them about. It's a big job and I'm pretty sure that you need 
to have both particles in the same place to start with to know whether they are 
actually entangled or not.
 

 Trouble is, no one really knows what is happening during entanglement 
experiments. Can subatomic particles communicate faster than light - thus 
destroying

[FairfieldLife] Working As Informants, was Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others

On 11/13/2014 10:18 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

Nabby has accused ME and Rick of working for the CIA.


/Probably nobody would admit they were working for the CIA and planting 
false messages on FFL to get insider information from subscribers. //We 
do know that there are some lurking reporters on FFL and a science 
writer reporting back to a magazine in the USA. We also know that 
Michael reports to John Knapp on the TM-Free blog. Everyone already 
knows that./

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dumping On Other Belief Systems, was Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others