[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-19 Thread sparaig
Forty years of doing the same thing I marvel all the time how unlike my meditation today is from yesterday or from 39 years ago. Are you sure you're "doing" TM? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > I could not care less about what Barry's, or your, intent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-19 Thread sparaig
I still find this tape charming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRSvW9Ml9DQ L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > If I had known about a "no Saints" policy before learning TM, honestly, > > that ty

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

2013-06-17 Thread sparaig
hings weren't his concern because he never married (he's a monk, y'know) You can read into my interpretation of events whatever you like, and obviously you do. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "spara

[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-17 Thread sparaig
Are y ou saying that he [Robin] never gave advice on how to modify TM-Sidhis practice to his followers, who then showed up to practice with everyone else? LM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: [...] > I'm not "sugar coating" it, I'm saying Robin and his group > were an an

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

2013-06-15 Thread sparaig
dLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > MMY was asked (I've seen the video) w

[FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E.

2013-06-14 Thread sparaig
MMY was asked (I've seen the video) what his lifestyle was, and he looked very surprised as he slowly said that he was a householder. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > I have to admit, he did run the TMO like a business, not sure what business > model that was.LOL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy on Jyotish...

2013-06-14 Thread sparaig
Mitochondrial Eve isn't a myth, but an inevitable statistical factoid. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: [...] > > "Adam and Eve" is a MYTH. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-06-11 Thread sparaig
Wasn't there an post-TM-Sidhis course for governors called the "minister's course" or something? I thought that those who had taken that course were no longer publicly participating in the dome activities. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Yeah so, this is all a POV.

[FairfieldLife] Re: sleep question

2013-06-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Sharalyn" wrote: > > have any of you ever had the experience of being in a dead sleep for 24 hours > or more? > Once with pneumonia. Miraculously, I didnt' pee the bed. L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin proposing to teach TM (and TM-Sidhis?) for free to 1,000Tai soldiers

2013-06-10 Thread sparaig
in received the > Ig Nobel Prize for Peace, an annual parody award presented at Harvard > University.[79] > > > > > > From: sparaig > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 9:20 AM > Subject: [Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Hagelin proposing to teach TM (and TM-Sidhis?) for free to 1,000Tai soldiers

2013-06-09 Thread sparaig
Today I learned that Hagelin won a Nobel Prize in 1994... http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Asia/Story/A1Story20130609-428570.html World-renowned quantum physicist and 1994 Nobel Peace Prize winner, John Hagelin, proposed $1 million (S$41,323) in funding for the Thai Army to apply a p

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

2013-06-08 Thread sparaig
as I thought. Nothing but airy assumptions parading as doctrinal > coinclusions. > > You really are a shill. > > > > --- In fairfhieldl...@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > I pointed out that the most experienced mindfulness practitioenrs t

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

2013-06-08 Thread sparaig
piring too for > us to realize that you are not just another shill for the TMO! > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > The most experienced practitioners of mindfulness that have been > measured in the West are Buddhist monks with

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

2013-06-08 Thread sparaig
associated > with techniques that suppress the activity of the parts of the brain > associated with "sense of self.". Pray tell me how do you know this? > References? Or is this something you made up? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

2013-06-08 Thread sparaig
el > of subtly until the subtlest value of experience (neither perception nor > non-perception) is recognized. > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > I never said that mindfulness is unhealthy. > > > > The

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

2013-06-08 Thread sparaig
@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/choke/201106/how-mindfulness-meditation-alters-the-brain > > > > How Mindfulness Meditation Alters the Brain &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

2013-06-07 Thread sparaig
irrelevant. And you know that, "Buddhist terms are associated > with techniques that suppress the activity of the parts of the brain > associated with "sense of self.". Pray tell me how do you know this? > References? Or is this something you made up? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

2013-06-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen" wrote: [...] > As a side note, I actually find buddhist terms to offer a better conceptual > tool set when discussing enlightenment than the vedic/hindu terms. They are, > in my experience, more precise and capture subtleties that the vedic/hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

2013-06-07 Thread sparaig
friend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: [...] > > Does someone in PC experience qualia? > > > > It's a tricky question to ask, letalone answer. > > Not if you're talking about PC-by-itself during > meditation, no thoughts, no mantra. Why tricky? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees"

2013-06-07 Thread sparaig
Depends on the definition of enlightenment, and the definition of "you," for that matter. CC is defined by 1) having some PC-ish "experience" available at all times, whether waking, dreamign or asleep and 2) identifying PC as your real self. PC doesn't suffer, by definition. Someone in CC, by d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

2013-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: [...] > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote > > about it. > > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a > functioning mind experiences qualia

[FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?

2013-06-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > eh, with TM, if you don't have pure consciousness 24/7 AND have breath > > suspension for the entire 20 min

[FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?

2013-06-03 Thread sparaig
I disagree. I don't know if MMY could fly or not, but really, do you think he would have lived very long if he demonstrated Yogic Flying to the masses? TM centers throughout the world would be burned to the ground shortly afterwards, and that could still happen today, 35 years after he started

[FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?

2013-06-03 Thread sparaig
And some no longer practice TM, haven't in decades, and yet post here regularly. Just saying... L (you walked into that one, you know) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > One doesn't have to visit FF

[FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?

2013-06-03 Thread sparaig
eh, with TM, if you don't have pure consciousness 24/7 AND have breath suspension for the entire 20 minute period, every time you meditate, there's still changes that can take place from doing TM. Likewise, if you don't float every time you do Yogic Flying during TM-Sidhis practice, not to ment

[FairfieldLife] Re: How reliable is this quote?

2013-06-03 Thread sparaig
In 1973, I met a follower of Yogananda whose GF was a TM teacher living in Switzerland while MMY was there. HE told me a story she told him that she arrived early for an appointment and peeked her head in the door to his room and found him floating above the ground. I protested, saying that if M

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM movement is doing great

2013-06-03 Thread sparaig
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > That happened as soon as the Taliban took over, I believe, > > which was more than a decade ago. > > And the world-saving, all-positive "

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM movement is doing great

2013-06-02 Thread sparaig
That happened as soon as the Taliban took over, I believe, which was more than a decade ago. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ wrote: > > > > there seems to be some people here who would imagine the > > movement is not

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM movement is doing great

2013-06-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM movement is doing great

2013-06-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: [...] > We are now at the stage of TM where it either disappears, or transforms into > a religion, shedding its cult-like status and really becoming bonkers. > Remember M himself said that it would decay with time, and lik

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread sparaig
What of INLAND EMPIRE? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen" wrote: > > When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he does fine with > only a little weirdness coming through from time-to-time. But Judy or Share, > have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no way you

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread sparaig
A friend of mine, Rob Freeman, worked on a zombie movie in Africa (the first, last and only zombie movie shot in deepest Africa for many reasons) which you may find interesting: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386925/ The story behind the movie is quite amazing. Rob ended up in a broom closet in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aliens refuse to do crop circles in GMO fields

2013-05-31 Thread sparaig
That is the hoped-for outcome of using Golden Rice, but it hasn't happened yet. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: [...] > > 'The Truth About Genetically Modified Food' > > http://tinyurl.com/kcmfmpc > > > I think a few folks on this forum should read this article...GMO save >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aliens refuse to do crop circles in GMO fields

2013-05-31 Thread sparaig
And yet, not one cancer study has ever been done on the long-term effects of eating any GMO... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > > Aliens refuse to do crop circles in GMO fields > > > Hello, is there anyone in there? > > Debunking the GMO Conspiracy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-31 Thread sparaig
Well, the purity of the teaching is MMY's teaching methodology. I'm not sure I ever really thought there was more to it than that since the creation myth I heard early on was in terms of MMY refining whatever Gurudev had taught him into an exceedingly simple package with no extraneous bits. L

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Once and Future Meditating Movement

2013-05-30 Thread sparaig
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Important change in the Invincible America > > > > Assembly > > > > > > > > > > > > Every meditator must be helped to understand that as long as we rely on > > > > the meditat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just to put my "take" on the "domes" into perspective...

2013-05-30 Thread sparaig
Perhaps you had never heard of the Maharishi Effect, but wikipedia claims it has been around since, well, forever (I think the 1% version came out in 1970, not 1960): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharishi_Effect#Description Description [edit] The Maharishi Effect is a hypothetical societal b

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > A big irony about the ongoing thing between you and Barry is that at one > > point, on alt.meditation.transcendental, you complemented him on his > > writing style and suggested he consider taking it up

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
Huh. Could swear it was you, in response to his description of Clint Eastwood's socks when he took off his shoes to give a flower to MMY. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
Most TM research was published between 5 and 40 years ago, not "more than 35 years ago." Sheesh. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > The thing is... > > after the American Heart Association reviewed about 1,000 papers on > me

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
A big irony about the ongoing thing between you and Barry is that at one point, on alt.meditation.transcendental, you complemented him on his writing style and suggested he consider taking it up as a career which apparently he did. You helped launch his career and you guys STILL can't get along.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deluded Nestle CEO on your right to water

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
>> kinda summed up his approach to life. Having worked > >> busking the streets in Paris himself, he brought some > >> authority to the words, and to the sentiment. I think > >> that experience of "relying on the compassion of others" > >> helped to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Get ready for global cooling

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
It is one of those interesting contradictions that temperatures can rise and fall at the same time in different parts of the world, even only a few hundred miles from each other. But the local temperature is often controlled by local air and water currents, not the global temperature and THOSE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
-Peter > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > On 05/26/2013 10:27 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > >> I never heard anything about him saying

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deluded Nestle CEO on your right to water

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
One day I shall be home > > I've sat on the street corner > And watched the bootheels shine > And cried out glad and cried out sad > With every voice but mine > > One day I walk in flowers > one day I walk on stones > Today I walk in hours > One day I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deluded Nestle CEO on your right to water

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
ed as "ruthless." "They're more willing to hurt others in their quest for money," he said. "When you look at people who've done exceptionally well, it tends to be the difficult people." L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Dome Meditation Meeting with Fairfield, Iowa Mayor Ed Malloy

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > FFL Lurkers do note: This is an incredibly important week for Fairfield,Iowa, > the Fairfield mediating community, and the Dome meditation numbers with the > failure of the Dome numbers to reach critical mass. > Buck, you might take note

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deluded Nestle CEO on your right to water

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
Well, what I said was an oversimplification, but here's one article that discusses things: http://nymag.com/news/features/money-brain-2012-7/ L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deluded Nestle CEO on your right to water

2013-05-27 Thread sparaig
There is some research that shows that people who are very wealthy show differences in how their brains function compared to average people and that these differences start to show up pretty much instantly if someone wins a major lottery. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread sparaig
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 05/26/2013 10:27 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > >> I never heard anything about him saying that simple > >> meditators were to avoid seeking other pat

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-27 Thread sparaig
Interesting, as the people who knew SBS all said that MMY was basically channeling SBS whenever he spoke on such matters. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > "Ego" (New Latin - circa 1789 A.D.) is from the Latin word meaning "I". > By returning to the meaning of th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bullshit Enlightenment [Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment]

2013-05-27 Thread sparaig
One man's silence is another man's noise. Thoughts aren't just verbiage floating around your brain. Noticing that a thing sitting next to you is red, is made of glass, is holding water suitable for drinking, etc., etc., are all thoughts, whether they are verbal, symbolic, or whatever or just so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread sparaig
I never heard anything about him saying that simple meditators were to avoid seeking other paths, only that it was bad form for the TM teachers to be seen that way. Telling rank-and-file meditators what to do certainly crosses into the territory of religion, and he was usually pretty careful ab

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness - Hardware and Software

2013-05-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > [...] > > It's amazing how easy it is to overlook. > > Some scientific folks insist very firmly that the sense of > self is just an illusion that processes in the brain create. > > Oh? And what/who is being fooled by it? > Those sam

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Petition to offer meditation in schools

2013-05-24 Thread sparaig
U This appears to be a ploy to get his book better known. Mark Landau is the author of the book he is advocating everyone read to learn how to do the meditation he advocates the US encourage all students to learn. Though, it is an interesting idea that the DLF might want to try, L --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

2013-05-24 Thread sparaig
John FAgan withdrew from GMO science and founded Genetic ID around that same time, so I doubt if MMY came up with the idea in a vacuum. I suspect that John F. was explaining concerns he had to MMY and MMY triggered on the implications for Ayurveda and came out with his stance. L --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of sparaig > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:12 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

2013-05-23 Thread sparaig
Perhaps me meant Witnessing Dreaming? Though, I've no reason to think that an arbitrary dream, enlightened or no, is going to be more important to the waking state if one is enlightened or not. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM teacher, > but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own set of techniques? > > Mark McCooey? Nope. Not an independent teacher. No set of techniques. > > OK,

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-23 Thread sparaig
f knowing get subsumed by and thus united by, the process of > knowing.  I prefer to call that knowingness.  It's kind of a funny combo of > statis and activity.  I've had glimpses only, not claiming anything other > than early morning waking state.  > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-23 Thread sparaig
I watched the 57 minute version of this panel discussion and a few things that I noted: Apparently it is ok to mention Ramana Maharishi but not Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM teacher, but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread sparaig
I took the full course nearly 40 years ago, but I recall hearing that some of the tapes changed over the years. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > Michael DEan

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread sparaig
ni doing sleep research on long term meditators, > > people reporting certain experiences, etc.  I guess an observable  > > baseline would have to be established first. > > > > > > > > From: sparaig > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, M

[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishna like Christian evangelizing

2013-05-22 Thread sparaig
I asked Anthony Campbell, author of _The Seven Stages of Consciousness_, why he became a Buddhist and no longer does TM. He replied because he had meditated the requisite number of years (I assume 7) and TM didn't work as advertised (he wasn't enlightened) so he moved on. I expect the same thin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Important change in the Invincible America Assembly

2013-05-22 Thread sparaig
"Enemy?" I think you've misunderstood the purpose of the "Invincible America" course. "Invincibility" means to inspire everyone to want to be a genuine friend, so that one has no enemies. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > As we go forward as a meditating movement

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-22 Thread sparaig
At first, perhaps. In the long run, the more concentrative a technique, the less pure consciousness like the EEG starts to look, both during and after practice. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 05/21/2013 09:07 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > From: Fairfiel

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread sparaig
What is consciousness? Tononi's Integrated Information Theory asserts that the level consciousness depends on a certain sophistication in the interaction of parts of a system. People point out that this means that even rocks are conscious, but Tononi doesn't like that interpretation and tries t

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread sparaig
Actually, the DEfault Mode Network stays more active during periods of relaxed wakefulness than during periods of active wakefulness, and the active wakefulness only requires 5% more metabolic activity than the relaxed consciousness. Sleep likely uses a bit less, but not all that much less. Wha

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread sparaig
Interesting thing I learned recently: some of the people reporting CC also report that ether doesn't shut things down completely -- pure consciousness still remains. And having some level of consciousness during anesthesia isn't all that unusual in non-enlightened people either. Unfortunately,

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread sparaig
Rishi-devata-chhandas... Anything that shows that relationship is consciousness on some level. BTW, Tononi's Integrated Information Theory has exactly the same structure for consciousness, but he calls it different things. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: ten bulls

2013-05-19 Thread sparaig
I'm sorry, I don't see the analogy between MMY's 7 states and the 10 bulls. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > Someone on Bat

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

2013-05-18 Thread sparaig
hypothesis) been gathered > in the *same* location? What is the predicted result? Where are the results > documented, and how closely do they match the predictions? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > How have has the project fail

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

2013-05-18 Thread sparaig
How have has the project failed? The project in this specific location, Fairfield, IA, didn't meet its goals. Allegedly, the project in Mexico HAS met its goals with many thousands of kids (65,000?) learning the TM-Sidhis over the next few years in a single province within a single time-zone wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are you in a cult?

2013-05-17 Thread sparaig
You're a cruel 'un, Alex... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > I'm afraid the unbridled power of my awesomeness has rendered MJ completely > speechless. So, don't expect a reply from him on FFL until next Friday. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Inner Peace

2013-05-15 Thread sparaig
o no no no! You must be wrong! After all, so many people here on FFL, > when asked by me some time ago said that TM is superior BECAUSE of the > special way it is taught, the special instructions. > > > > > ________ > From: sparaig > To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Inner Peace

2013-05-15 Thread sparaig
Dryly: fer shure... Let's play pretend: Pretend that the AHA scientific statement brings about a slew of larger-scale studies designed the way this study was: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2693686 Where good faith attempts were made to compensate for the fact that it is virtually imposs

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Inner Peace

2013-05-14 Thread sparaig
You know, I never was told that my mantra was unique or special. In fact, my teacher explicitly said: "there are a limited number of TM mantras, and they are chosen via a simple, mechanical selection process based on the answers you gave in your application form." MMY explicitly said to the pr

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Inner Peace

2013-05-14 Thread sparaig
Yes, the prospect that the average health insurance company in the USA may make deals with the TMO and/or the DLF to learn TM at a discount via a copay mean that TM is definitely going to be short-lived. Here's a hint: hospitals already offer mindfulness training for things like treating hypert

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Inner Peace

2013-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: [...] > Anything is possible. The points of the article are > sound, and valid -- TM is *hugely* overpriced, and > simply not worth the price, TM is hyped as special > and unique when it is anything but, and TM figures > like MMY and David

[FairfieldLife] Re: Study on TM and HIV

2013-05-13 Thread sparaig
Most people who practice most forms of meditation, and most researchers on most forms of meditation, insist that they come in only two forms: open monitoring (mindfulness) and focused attention (concentration). The long-term effects of these forms of meditation are very similar in that they str

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-13 Thread sparaig
ISKON members consider Shankara and his advait vedanta to be a Buddhist wannabe thang and completely anti "real" Hinduism. Buddhists either believe that shamatha does just what TM does, so why bother learning TM, or, if they accept that TM does something different, it leads to more illusion bec

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rot;

2013-05-12 Thread sparaig
Transcendental Consciousness isn't an experience. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Thanks for the water analogy.  Can you say more about the context of the > bliss and blissful quote? > > > > > > From: wgm4u > To: FairfieldLi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rot;

2013-05-11 Thread sparaig
Different spiritual practices have different physiological effets. Your average focused attention or open-monitoring technique fragments the functioning of the brain, and that is seen as a good thing in those traditions that promote it. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Time to Get Enlightened, Part 2

2013-05-08 Thread sparaig
Within a few months or a year or two of TMing, i started having "witnessing sleep" almost all the time. That situation has continued unbroken, except for a few periods of near-death illness, and staying awake 48-72+ hours straight, for nearly 40 years. PC + waking state is still extremely rare

[FairfieldLife] Re: Time to Get Enlightened, Part 2

2013-05-08 Thread sparaig
The first reports of people in CC in scientific literature were the 6 TMers study by Richard Castillo who came to him complaining that they were completely uninvolved with the activity of the world around them. Upon questioning them further, he determined that, other than the complaint that thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Never Thought of this one.

2013-05-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Well it certainly never occurred to me, but a TM teacher who took TTC in the > mid-1970's said on her course certain aspects of enlightenment were discussed > including whether or not the enlightened were so refined that they no

[FairfieldLife] about that American Heart Association thang...

2013-05-07 Thread sparaig
Well, the lead author of that AHA report is getting an earful. In addition to my 3-4 emails today, apparently someone else emailed him last week and I have it on good authority someone else is emailing him too, and that's just about the wording concerning TM, not any other technique or practice.

[FairfieldLife] That yogic flying thang...

2013-05-05 Thread sparaig
So did anyone attend? How was Fred Travis's EEG presentation? Any astounding feats of froggy prowess? L

[FairfieldLife] Re: YF and back pain?

2013-05-03 Thread sparaig
I recall reading a snippet somewhere where much of the movement associated with Yogic Flying was thought to be associated with realigning the back... don't know where I read that, however. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote: > > > Just saw a Norwegian TV program about back

[FairfieldLife] Re: VI annual YFC!

2013-05-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: [...] > Are you seriously actually expecting yogic "flying" to be demonstrated > at any other level ever? I remain committed to unwavering optimism. L

[FairfieldLife] Re: VI annual YFC!

2013-05-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > This was always schtick, but now it is pathetic schtick with the younger more > flexible flyers kicking the asses of the older flyers with decades more > experience with the technique, exposing the emperor. > > And the cro

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Tidy Sum!

2013-04-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/maharishi-mahesh-yogi-rs-6-crore-fortune/1/201925.html > > > > > > Turns out there isn't but I thought I would work out what 60,000 Crore > > > actually was in proper money. > > > > > > 1 cro

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth

2013-04-28 Thread sparaig
Whatever happened with good ole Girish, anyway? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > And Girish is probably already looking at plans for his new palace. ;-) >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
he conclusion was an oversight, but of course, I am often wrong. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrot

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
; wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But if they really cared about peoples

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > But if they really cared about peoples health - as opposed to just banging > their respective drums - they'd be singing the praises of > hand squeezing and slow breathing. > > According to the evidence anyway > The AHA eval

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
Well, this only evaluated the effects of TM on blood pressure. A German think tank released a study the same day that found that workplace stress can double your chances of heart attack and stroke. BP is only one factor of many that TM apparently effects, and the recent finding that shows a 48%

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > wonder how many TM teachers are on the committee that made the > recommendation? > > See my analysis of the timing of the TM response to this. As far as I know, I was first to catch it and bring it to the TMO's attention -jus

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
I sent notice about this to David Orme-Johnson, Fred Travis, Dr Rosenthal, etc, earlier this week. David summarized the study and sent it to all his friends the next day. Dr. Schneider is only now making remarks on the paper. So, 2-3 days from hearing unexpectedly about an announcement to gettin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Surprising IQs of Famous People

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > Johann Bach was 165. Asia Carrera is 156. Charles Dickens had 180. > > Marilyn Vos Savant is 228. Surprisingly, Albert Einstein "only" had 160 > > compared to so

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