Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/18/2014 3:36 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: yes, the Barster was holding back on us. He doesn't want to talk about it very much. Maybe the memories are just too painful. Or, maybe he never really was in the inner circle of the cult, just another student attending

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Look, every body gets the pushing of buttons. We all get ours pushed sometimes, and we all do some pushing ourselves. But, from what you've found below, it does it appear that Barry has elevated this pushing of buttons to, well, some kind of religion. And as in most religions, some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, take a look at the book - It explains Barry's thinking quite well. A good read, sorry I didn't see it sooner. Freddie said he was the perfect mirror, and if you perceived something negative in him, you were really seeing it in yourself. Sounds so much like Bawee. Explains all the golden

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
levitation crap, too. Its as believable as Marshy's levitation crap. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : If you want to know how Barry thinks, and how he got so screwed up, there is a free ebook, from someone who was very close to Freddie. The name of the book is: TAKE ME FOR A RIDE Coming Of Age In A Destructive Cult, by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Rama was all about fear and imagination. The guy never got even a millimeter off the ground, or accomplished any other feats. You were in a trance, and brainwashed, Barry. He also did LOTS of LSD, which he encouraged his followers to use, in addition to keeping you in a constant state of sleep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is probably why Barry has no relationships with a girlfriend, spouse, children, family, roommates, or friends. Lenz hated anything that would take attention and adoration away from him, so he taught his students, especially his inner circle, of which Barry was one, to be fearful of others,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/18/2014 8:29 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, take a look at the book - It explains Barry's thinking quite well. A good read, sorry I didn't see it sooner. /The Zen Master Rama took Barry for a long ride and charged him big bucks just to be in his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/18/2014 8:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: levitation crap, too. /Are you saying that Barry is a liar and a braggart?/ Its as believable as Marshy's levitation crap. /The issue is not whether or not levitation or yogic flying is possible - the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I finished the book, which was quite a page turner - Lenz was really into mind-fucking people, kind of a spiritual criminal. I stumbled around, as clueless as the next person, when I was young, but I could *always* smell a phony, and Lenz, from what I have seen of him, never would have passed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is explained in the book, a very simple manipulation - Lenz spoke all the time about levitation and other powers and abilities. He would then get his drugged out, sleepless zombies together, haul them out to the desert at 2 AM, and maybe dance around, and then ask, What did you see? He would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/18/2014 8:48 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: He is someone who has been well and truly hoodwinked and is about as bitter as you could get. And he still uses the technique Fred used on him and all those involved; push buttons to expose their tendencies, to figure out

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/18/2014 8:48 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Heis someone who has been well and truly hoodwinked and is about as bitter as you could get. And he still uses the technique Fred used on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread nablusoss1008
It's interesting to note that according to the Master of Benjamin Creme, Lenz had a point of evolution of 1,7 when he comitted suicide with a dog collar around his neck. According to that system enlightenment begins with 3,0, so the guru of the Turq wasn't even close. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is amazing what mind-numbed zombies you people are about this - Barry has been very upfront with his assessment of Lenz, and has said point blank that in some ways Rama was a con artist - yet you all seem to ignore that and use Rama's enormities to paint Barry as a pitiful person and a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Really Fleetwood?! You're laughing at someone's difficult childhood?! I don't think that's very compassionate. On Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:42 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is what Barry has NOT said that tells the story. Lenz was not only a con-artist, makes it sound like he was bouncing checks, or skipping out on parking tickets. No, Michael, he abused his followers, emotionally, mentally, sexually, and financially. Barry has no money - He spent it all on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, this bit was hilarious! having to walk up to the chalkboard in cowboy boots with kids snickering at him behind his back because he couldn't add numbers without counting on his fingers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Really Fleetwood?! You're laughing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Not that Turq needs anyone to defend him, but I must say: he abused his followers, emotionally, mentally, sexually, and financially - exactly what Marshy did even though you won't admit it since your sense of self is so caught up in his saintly image. Barry has no money...Barry has no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It is amazing what mind-numbed zombies you people are about this - Barry has been very upfront with his assessment of Lenz, and has said point blank that in some ways Rama was a con artist - yet you all seem to ignore that and use

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, you should hang out with Barry more, as you know nothing about him, except what he has spoon-fed you. Everything I have said is accurate. Look a little deeper, than simply cozying up to him, just because he too, professes to dislike Maharishi as much as you do (another Lenz trick - the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/18/2014 9:13 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Somewhat more believable, actually. /It's beginning to look like we have another case of cognitive dissonance - Michael confronted by the reality that his hero Barry is nothing but another cult informant. This is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
All I can say is: I don't think Barry gives a damn what I think about him. Nothing you have said is accurate except in your own mind and I don't cozy up to anyone, I just am willing to tell the truth. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/18/2014 10:06 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Rama was all about fear and imagination. /Rama was all about making money - that's why he started teaching computer science and charging $1,000 per training session./ The guy never got even a millimeter off

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/18/2014 12:38 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: He would then get his drugged out, sleepless zombies together, haul them out to the desert at 2 AM, /You are incorrect - Lenz did not haul anyone out to the desert. After paying him $1000 for the map to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
yes, the Barster was holding back on us. Claims to have left the Rama mindset, but was secretly promoting the pushing of buttons agenda. Aw, Barry, tsk, tsk tsk. You knew that truth was going to leak out. But, Barry has become more like a door bell button pusher. Like maybe some of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think what we're seeing Michael, is that some of the tendencies Barry has, such as a 35 year habit of pushing people's buttons in the name of cult research and enabling people to understand themselves better are just tendencies he picked up from his time with that Rama guy It just helps to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah, this bit was hilarious! having to walk up to the chalkboard in cowboy boots with kids snickering at him behind his back because he couldn't add numbers without counting on his fingers. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : All I can say is: I don't think Barry gives a damn what I think about him. Nothing you have said is accurate except in your own mind and I don't cozy up to anyone, I just am willing to tell the truth. Actually MJ, he does