[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-12-03 Thread Richard J. Williams
off_world_beings wrote:
 Your hero Bush is acting like a vermin caught in a corner.

Apparently the vermin caught in a corner are all the Democrats who are
now attempting to weasel their way out of taking responsibility for
their vote to go to war in Iraq. In my opinion, the heros are those
who consistently voted to win the war and are pursuing it until we win
the Iraq battle. The vermin are those who say the President lied about
the reason to use force to unseat Saddham. I'd never vote for a
politician who is a weasel and a hypocrite. According to Senator Jay
Rockefeller, Iraq posed an imminent threat to the United States.
 
According to Senator Hillary Clinton, the evidence of weapons of mass
destruction and links to Al Qaeda in Iraq turned out to be false,
however, just months after the bombs started falling, Senator Clinton
said that she had no second thoughts about her vote for war. The war
was worth it just to remove Saddam Hussein from power, she said.

I felt that it was appropriate under the circumstances, which really
went back to 1998 under the Clinton administration's conclusion that
the regime had to change, that the President [Bush] had authority to
pursue that goal.

Why was the intelligence consistent from the Clinton administration
to the Bush administration? Clinton added. The intelligence was
consistent for over a decade.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-12-03 Thread Richard J. Williams
feste37 wrote:
 Wouldn't you sooner have an atheist in charge than 
 this religious nut? 
 
The U.S. economy is on the verge of booming again and we are winning
the war against the terrorists, but the fact that you haven't posted
any good news has already diminished what's left of your credibility.
I'll need to constantly remind myself not to expect to get both sides
to any political point of view from Yahoo! FL.  

Senator Joseph Lieberman has just reported in the Wall Street Journal
on his observations during a recent visit to Iraq -- his fourth since
the invasion. What he observed was considerable progress. What he
concluded is that America has a good plan and strategy for victory
in Iraq, and that it would be a huge mistake for America to lose its
will to fight. Lieberman also rejected the notion of setting a
timetable for withdrawing from Iraq.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-12-03 Thread Richard J. Williams
feste37 wrote:
 Wouldn't you sooner have an atheist in charge than 
 this religious nut? 
 
The U.S. economy is on the verge of booming again and we are winning
the war against the terrorists, but the fact that you haven't posted
any good news has already diminished what's left of your credibility.
I'll need to constantly remind myself not to expect to get both sides
to any political point of view from Yahoo! FL.  

Senator Joseph Lieberman has just reported in the Wall Street Journal
on his observations during a recent visit to Iraq -- his fourth since
the invasion. What he observed was considerable progress. What he
concluded is that America has a good plan and strategy for victory
in Iraq, and that it would be a huge mistake for America to lose its
will to fight. Lieberman also rejected the notion of setting a
timetable for withdrawing from Iraq.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-12-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 off_world_beings wrote:
  Your hero Bush is acting like a vermin caught in a corner.
 
 Apparently the vermin caught in a corner are all the Democrats who 
are
 now attempting to weasel their way out of taking responsibility for
 their vote to go to war in Iraq. In my opinion, the heros are those
 who consistently voted to win the war and are pursuing it until we 
win
 the Iraq battle. The vermin are those who say the President lied 
about
 the reason to use force to unseat Saddham. I'd never vote for a
 politician who is a weasel and a hypocrite. According to Senator 
Jay
 Rockefeller, Iraq posed an imminent threat to the United States.
  
 According to Senator Hillary Clinton, the evidence of weapons of 
mass
 destruction and links to Al Qaeda in Iraq turned out to be false,
 however, just months after the bombs started falling, Senator 
Clinton
 said that she had no second thoughts about her vote for war. The 
war
 was worth it just to remove Saddam Hussein from power, she said.
 
 I felt that it was appropriate under the circumstances, which 
really
 went back to 1998 under the Clinton administration's conclusion 
that
 the regime had to change, that the President [Bush] had authority 
to
 pursue that goal.
 
 Why was the intelligence consistent from the Clinton 
administration
 to the Bush administration? Clinton added. The intelligence was
 consistent for over a decade.

Odd that you would use Clinton's words to justify Bush's war...Also, 
these types of arguments lead nowhere if we assume as you and others 
do, that the only alternative to Bush are the Democrats. The 
alternative is an honest, peaceful and ethical approach, while still 
accomplishing the aims of influence and prosperity for the US. It 
can be done. It is just that the Republicans see the solution as 
dictatorship, and the Democrats have been paid off by Bush, who has 
never vetoed a spending bill, and are rendered close to worthless 
and impotent now. It doesn't negate a solution though.

Awfully ironic that Mr. I'm a uniter, not a divider is a uniter of 
the majority of the country now against him.

Last, contrary to the beliefs of some, it is no longer possible 
to 'win' a war. The suffering, damage, and killing can never again 
be justified, under any circumstances. The world has changed for the 
forseeable future; war is obsolete. Those that wage it will begin to 
pay a more and more immediate price. Blood on the hands is still 
blood on the hands.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-12-03 Thread Richard J. Williams
shempmcgurk wrote:
 What Judy and the rest of the Left don't seem to understand is that 
 a very large chunk of fence-sitters and undecided's get pushed into 
 the Bush/Republican camp each and every time a Cindy Sheehan or a 
 Michael Moore or an Al Franken open up their big yaps and speak 
 nastily about the president or his policies.
 
If Cindy Sheehan wants to be used to advance the interests of the
antiwar left, that is her prerogative. But she might want to peruse
the blogs that constitute the fever swamps of the Left. There she will
find that this is not an isolated case, but that some of her new pals
feel nothing but contempt for her son — that indeed they do believe he
was a poor, dumb sucker.

'Sucker'
Does Cindy Sheehan know what her new allies think of her son and his
brothers?
By Mac Owens
The National Review, August 12, 2005
http://www.nationalreview.com/owens/owens200508121502.asp

A message to Cindy Sheehan:
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2005/08/message-to-cindy-sheehan.html





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/29/05 10:08:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, Reaganomics was such a failure that Bush Senior had to raise 
  taxes in order to offset some of the damage. Taxes will again have to be 
  raised to cope with the disaster that G. W. Bush's policies have led to. 
  

Wrong Feste, Reagan tax cuts more than doubled income to the 
treasury as the economy grew. What grew even faster was federal spending. Reagan 
insisted on increased military spending to make up for Carters slashes and also 
to bankrupt the Soviets. Congress increased spending on their pet projects to 
get reelected. Together, their spending out grew the increased revenue caused by 
tax cuts.Bush never had to increase taxes, he did it out of a spirit of 
compromise with the democratic leadership, something a wise leader should never 
seek. If you recall, Bush agreed with Tip O'neal, I believe, that for ever 
dollar raised in taxes, the congress would cut their spending by either the same 
amount or even double. Bush broke his vow of no new taxes, costing him 
reelection, signed the new tax bill and Congress never followed through on their 
promise to cut the spending. The new taxes sent the country into a minor 
recession which it started coming out of months before the election. Government 
revenue before Reagan's tax cut was about 500 billion a year, before taxes were 
raised again it had grown to about a trillion dollars a year. Tax cuts 
have caused the economy to grow every time it has been used. The key is to keep 
congress from increasing the rate of their spending on their pet projects. 
Something republicanshave shownare no better at than 
democrats.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/30/05 8:30:05 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
They 
  grew the economy causing even more revenue  to be collected 
  in the long run.Prove it.

I don't have the stats for JFK but nobody disputes that JFK's 
tax cuts stimulated the economy, causing it to grow. Not even little Brother 
Teddy! When Reagan took office government revenues were around 500 billion a 
year , give or take about 50 billion. Before taxes were raised again the economy 
had expanded and revenues increased to about 1 trillion during the Reagan 
administration. Now under Bush there has been steady growth in the economy month 
by month, pulled out of the Clinton recession,and again government revenues have 
grown. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but every now and then I 
hear in the news where government revenues for a quarter were bigger than were 
anticipated and caused the deficit to be less than 
expected.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread tazarmfune

When Reagan took office government revenues were around 500 billion a  
year , give or take about 50 billion. Before taxes were raised again the 
economy  had  expanded and revenues increased to about 1 trillion during 
the Reagan  administration.


After his tax cuts, the country went into recession.

And don't forget that Reagan instituted the largst tax increase in American 
History (social securty issues). 

And he compiled more debt than all the previous presidents combined.


Now under Bush there has been steady growth in the economy month  by 
month,  pulled out of the Clinton recession,and again government revenues 
have  grown. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but every now and 
then I  hear in the news where government revenues for a quarter were 
bigger than were  anticipated and caused the deficit to be less than  
expected.


Steady growth?  

What reality are you living in?

Steady job losses for over 4 years.
Only modern president to have a net job losses in a term.

Clionton recession?
More GOP fantasy.
Longest sustained economic growth in U.S. History (despite the blow job).
Yes, record tax increases (surpassing Reagan), but - take a look at ALL the 
dire predictions from the right wing about that. The WSJ predicting economic 
doom and disaster. None of which came to pass.
Bush inherited a slowing economy for sure... but not one that met the 
traditional definition of recession. 
Deficits less than expected?
Are you kidding me?
Before he took office, there were NO deficits projected or expected. 
Surpluses were in the forecast.
Nothing but red ink now.
So much for the Balanced Budget Amendment.
And it's just not the so-called war on terror.
Bush's non-defense spending has increased about 7% per year, vs. 2% for 
Clinton.
Bush has changed America's course from tax-and-spend to 
borrow-and-spend.

























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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread Kirk





Discussing politics is like 
discussing Playboy Playmates.


- Original Message - 
From: tazarmfune 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?
When Reagan took office government 
revenues were around 500 billion a year , give or take about 50 
billion. Before taxes were raised again the economy had expanded 
and revenues increased to about 1 trillion during the Reagan 
administration.After his tax cuts, the country 
went into recession.And don't forget that Reagan instituted the largst 
tax increase in American History (social securty issues). And he 
compiled more debt than all the previous presidents 
combined.Now under Bush 
there has been steady growth in the economy month by month, 
pulled out of the Clinton recession,and again government revenues have 
grown. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but every now and then 
I hear in the news where government revenues for a quarter were bigger 
than were anticipated and caused the deficit to be less than 
expected.Steady 
growth? What reality are you living in?Steady job losses 
for over 4 years.Only modern president to have a net job losses in a 
term.Clionton recession?More GOP fantasy.Longest sustained 
economic growth in U.S. History (despite the blow job).Yes, record tax 
increases (surpassing Reagan), but - take a look at ALL the dire predictions 
from the right wing about that. The WSJ predicting economic doom and 
disaster. None of which came to pass.Bush inherited a slowing economy for 
sure... but not one that met the traditional definition of "recession." 
"Deficits less than expected?"Are you kidding me?Before he took 
office, there were NO deficits projected or expected. Surpluses were in the 
forecast.Nothing but red ink now.So much for the Balanced Budget 
Amendment.And it's just not the so-called "war on terror."Bush's 
non-defense spending has increased about 7% per year, vs. 2% for 
Clinton.Bush has changed America's course from tax-and-spend to 
borrow-and-spend.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 When Reagan took office government revenues were around 500 billion a  
 year , give or take about 50 billion. Before taxes were raised again
the 
 economy  had  expanded and revenues increased to about 1 trillion
during 
 the Reagan  administration.
 
 
 After his tax cuts, the country went into recession.
 
 And don't forget that Reagan instituted the largst tax increase in
American 
 History (social securty issues). 
 
 And he compiled more debt than all the previous presidents combined.
 
 
 Now under Bush there has been steady growth in the economy month  by 
 month,  pulled out of the Clinton recession,and again government
revenues 
 have  grown. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but every
now and 
 then I  hear in the news where government revenues for a quarter were 
 bigger than were  anticipated and caused the deficit to be less than  
 expected.

Historical tables can be found here
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2005/hist.html

Tax receipts declined in 2001, declined again in 2002, declined again
in 2003, stabilized in 2004 and have grown in 2005.  They would have
declined anyway in 2001 due to stock bubble bursting, but hard to say
real effect of bush tax cuts, growth has been real slow and economy
grows on its own just with growth of pop.  

Receipts under Reagan did grow from about 500 billion to about 1
trillion, but expenditures grew even more than receipts.  Of course
you'll get a growing economy under those situations.  Plus oil prices
dropped dramatically and Volcker got interest rates down.  All of this
contributed to the growth.  Economy is complicated, it grew under
reagan tax cuts, bush1 tax increase and clinton tax increase.

The debt was under 1 trillion when Reagan came in, now over 7
trillion.  It's one thing to fiscally stimulate the economy with 1
trillion in debt and another now with 7 trillion.  We have to be more
responsible in how its done now.  

I'm not against tax cuts, rates were too high when Reagan came in. 
Also, social security rates have not come down and alternative minimum
tax is hitting more people.  Have rates really come down much for avg
person?  The key for me is fair rate reduction for everyone combined
with fiscal discipline in spending.  





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/30/05 10:40:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steady growth? What reality are you living 
  in?Steady job losses for over 4 years.Only modern president to 
  have a net job losses in a term.

Yes steady growth, ranging from 3 to 4 % most of the time. 
Steady job loss? Yes there have been many jobs outsourced overseas yet 
unemployment remains about 5% or just under and millions of Mexicans come here 
seeking employment and get it without any problem and new jobs are created every 
month. Notice how the democrats have not attacked Bush on the economy in months 
now?They can only hope for a housing market bubble to pop. Again bad news for 
America being good news for Democrats.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/30/05 8:30:05 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 They  grew the economy causing even 
 more  revenue 
  to be collected  in the long run.
 
 
 Prove it.
 
 
 
 I don't have the stats for JFK but nobody disputes that JFK's  tax 
cuts 
 stimulated the economy, causing it to grow. Not even little 
Brother  Teddy! When 
 Reagan took office government revenues were around 500 billion a  
year , give or 
 take about 50 billion. Before taxes were raised again the economy  
had 
 expanded and revenues increased to about 1 trillion during the 
Reagan  
 administration. Now under Bush there has been steady growth in the 
economy month  by month, 
 pulled out of the Clinton recession,and again government revenues 
have  
 grown. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but every now 
and then I  hear 
 in the news where government revenues for a quarter were bigger 
than were  
 anticipated and caused the deficit to be less than  expected.



You still haven't proven it. You didn't even prove it for JFK and 
Reagan, whose tax cuts were far greater, percentage-wise, than 
Bush's. Also, over what time-period were these previous tax cuts 
sucessful?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Discussing politics is like discussing Playboy Playmates.

But you haven't *really* walked the Tantric path
until you've discussed politics *with* a Playboy
playmate.  :-)  I had the opportunity to do just that,
because some friends of mine in Chicago had gotten
the gig of helping Playboy to create websites for
each of their playmates.  The three guys who were
putting together the websites were, as fate would
have it, gay, and didn't really quite get the
women they were immortalizing on the Web, but I
got to talk to some of them.  It may have been 
just dumb luck, but every one of them impressed
me as intelligent, well-spoken, self-respecting
and interesting women.  Go figure.


 - Original Message - 
 From: tazarmfune 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:39 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?
 
 
 
 When Reagan took office government revenues were around 500 
billion a  
 year , give or take about 50 billion. Before taxes were raised 
again the 
 economy  had  expanded and revenues increased to about 1 trillion 
during 
 the Reagan  administration.
 
 
 After his tax cuts, the country went into recession.
 
 And don't forget that Reagan instituted the largst tax increase in 
American 
 History (social securty issues). 
 
 And he compiled more debt than all the previous presidents 
combined.
 
 
 Now under Bush there has been steady growth in the economy month  
by 
 month,  pulled out of the Clinton recession,and again government 
revenues 
 have  grown. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but 
every now and 
 then I  hear in the news where government revenues for a quarter 
were 
 bigger than were  anticipated and caused the deficit to be less 
than  
 expected.
 
 
 Steady growth?  
 
 What reality are you living in?
 
 Steady job losses for over 4 years.
 Only modern president to have a net job losses in a term.
 
 Clionton recession?
 More GOP fantasy.
 Longest sustained economic growth in U.S. History (despite the 
blow job).
 Yes, record tax increases (surpassing Reagan), but - take a look 
at ALL the 
 dire predictions from the right wing about that. The WSJ 
predicting economic 
 doom and disaster. None of which came to pass.
 Bush inherited a slowing economy for sure... but not one that met 
the 
 traditional definition of recession. 
 Deficits less than expected?
 Are you kidding me?
 Before he took office, there were NO deficits projected or 
expected. 
 Surpluses were in the forecast.
 Nothing but red ink now.
 So much for the Balanced Budget Amendment.
 And it's just not the so-called war on terror.
 Bush's non-defense spending has increased about 7% per year, vs. 
2% for 
 Clinton.
 Bush has changed America's course from tax-and-spend to 
 borrow-and-spend.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/30/05 12:02:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You 
  still haven't proven it. You didn't even prove it for JFK and Reagan, 
  whose tax cuts were far greater, percentage-wise, than Bush's. Also, over 
  what time-period were these previous tax cuts 
sucessful?

Sparaig it's not that important to me to do the necessary 
googling. What specifically would you accept as proof? The tax cuts are 
permanently successful. They never lead to a declining revenue once they take 
effect because the economy expands and creates more tax payers which always make 
up thedifference plus. Now it's also possible thatthe government can 
out grow the tax cuts, but that is done by spending at a faster rate than tax 
revenues are coming in. That is why when presidents cut taxes to stimulate 
growth they plead with their congresses to hold increased spending to the same 
rate of inflation to allow the growth of the economy to proceed at a faster pace 
than the growth of the government spending. This prevents deficit spending. 
However , some times deficit spending can be necessary and over time the 
deficits can be grown out of as the economy expands and the tax base broadens to 
include more tax payers.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/30/05 12:02:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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You 
  still haven't proven it. You didn't even prove it for JFK and Reagan, 
  whose tax cuts were far greater, percentage-wise, than Bush's. Also, over 
  what time-period were these previous tax cuts 
sucessful?

The 
"Secret" JFK Tax Cuts This might answer some of your 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/30/05 12:02:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You  still haven't proven it. You didn't even prove it for JFK and 
 Reagan,  whose tax cuts were far greater, percentage-wise, than 
 Bush's. Also, over  what time-period were these previous tax cuts  
 sucessful?
 
 
 
 
 _The  Secret JFK Tax Cuts_ 
 (http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/911868/posts)  This might 
answer some of your  questions


Apparently, it's fine for a Democratic President to push for tax 
cuts that will spur economic growth, but not for a Republican like 
Ronald Reagan, and now George W. Bush. To say that JFK's tax cut was 
any different is a blatant lie. In a way, Kennedy's tax cut could 
have benefited the rich even more. Any tax cut from rates as high as 
over 90% will have a much larger impact than a tax cut on tax rates 
from 20 through 50%. 

Bush only plans to reduce the top income tax rate from 39.6 to 33%. 
Kennedy cut taxes for the rich by one-third. Bush's income tax cut is 
only a one-sixth reduction. Additionally, Bush's tax cut would return 
less than 7 cents on each dollar earned, whereas Kennedy's tax cut 
returned 26 cents on each dollar. These are facts conveniently left 
out by Ted Kennedy and other Democrats - that Kennedy too drastically 
cut taxes for the rich, and that Reagan's tax cuts were across-the-
board and caused tax revenue to increase. The evil Republicans' tax 
cuts even propose an end to the marriage penalty tax and the tax on 
Social Security benefits! 




So, Bush's tax cut of about 10% on the highest wage earners has had 
the same impact as Kennedy's tax-cut of 30%?

I agree that 94% is too high a tax rate. But what is NOT too high a 
tax rate? 10%? 20%? Etc?

Does the term point  of diminishing returns mean anything to you?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  

Discussing politics is like discussing Playboy Playmates.



But you haven't *really* walked the Tantric path
until you've discussed politics *with* a Playboy
playmate.  :-)  I had the opportunity to do just that,
because some friends of mine in Chicago had gotten
the gig of helping Playboy to create websites for
each of their playmates.  The three guys who were
putting together the websites were, as fate would
have it, gay, and didn't really quite get the
women they were immortalizing on the Web, but I
got to talk to some of them.  It may have been 
just dumb luck, but every one of them impressed
me as intelligent, well-spoken, self-respecting
and interesting women.  Go figure.
  

I once attended a party hosted by a company in my industry and the 
Playboy Mansion hosted the bar.  One of the guys in my company mentioned 
to them that I was an astrologer.  So I had Playboy Playmates lining up 
all evening for palm readings.   Then next day I had guys from my 
company wanting me to teach them astrology.  :)

Now that's real tantra.

- Bhairitu



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Discussing politics is like discussing Playboy Playmates.
 
 But you haven't *really* walked the Tantric path
 until you've discussed politics *with* a Playboy
 playmate.  :-)  I had the opportunity to do just that,
 because some friends of mine in Chicago had gotten
 the gig of helping Playboy to create websites for
 each of their playmates.  The three guys who were
 putting together the websites were, as fate would
 have it, gay, and didn't really quite get the
 women they were immortalizing on the Web,




Funny, I always thought you had to be gay in order to like the women 
of Playboy.

On the whole, they are fake and plastic and 180 degrees away from 
what I consider the idyllic woman.





 but I
 got to talk to some of them.  It may have been 
 just dumb luck, but every one of them impressed
 me as intelligent, well-spoken, self-respecting
 and interesting women.  Go figure.
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: tazarmfune 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:39 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?
  
  
  
  When Reagan took office government revenues were around 500 
 billion a  
  year , give or take about 50 billion. Before taxes were raised 
 again the 
  economy  had  expanded and revenues increased to about 1 
trillion 
 during 
  the Reagan  administration.
  
  
  After his tax cuts, the country went into recession.
  
  And don't forget that Reagan instituted the largst tax increase 
in 
 American 
  History (social securty issues). 
  
  And he compiled more debt than all the previous presidents 
 combined.
  
  
  Now under Bush there has been steady growth in the economy 
month  
 by 
  month,  pulled out of the Clinton recession,and again government 
 revenues 
  have  grown. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but 
 every now and 
  then I  hear in the news where government revenues for a quarter 
 were 
  bigger than were  anticipated and caused the deficit to be less 
 than  
  expected.
  
  
  Steady growth?  
  
  What reality are you living in?
  
  Steady job losses for over 4 years.
  Only modern president to have a net job losses in a term.
  
  Clionton recession?
  More GOP fantasy.
  Longest sustained economic growth in U.S. History (despite the 
 blow job).
  Yes, record tax increases (surpassing Reagan), but - take a look 
 at ALL the 
  dire predictions from the right wing about that. The WSJ 
 predicting economic 
  doom and disaster. None of which came to pass.
  Bush inherited a slowing economy for sure... but not one that 
met 
 the 
  traditional definition of recession. 
  Deficits less than expected?
  Are you kidding me?
  Before he took office, there were NO deficits projected or 
 expected. 
  Surpluses were in the forecast.
  Nothing but red ink now.
  So much for the Balanced Budget Amendment.
  And it's just not the so-called war on terror.
  Bush's non-defense spending has increased about 7% per year, vs. 
 2% for 
  Clinton.
  Bush has changed America's course from tax-and-spend to 
  borrow-and-spend.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/30/05 12:02:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You  still haven't proven it. You didn't even prove it for JFK and 
 Reagan,  whose tax cuts were far greater, percentage-wise, than 
 Bush's. Also, over  what time-period were these previous tax cuts  
 sucessful?
 
 
 
 
 _The  Secret JFK Tax Cuts_ 
 (http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/911868/posts)  This might 
answer some of your  questions



Great article, M. Dixon...I recommend it to everyone!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 11/30/05 12:02:42 P.M. Central Standard 
Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  You  still haven't proven it. You didn't even prove it for JFK 
and 
  Reagan,  whose tax cuts were far greater, percentage-wise, than 
  Bush's. Also, over  what time-period were these previous tax 
cuts  
  sucessful?
  
  
  
  
  _The  Secret JFK Tax Cuts_ 
  (http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/911868/posts)  This might 
 answer some of your  questions
 
 
 Apparently, it's fine for a Democratic President to push for tax 
 cuts that will spur economic growth, but not for a Republican like 
 Ronald Reagan, and now George W. Bush. To say that JFK's tax cut 
was 
 any different is a blatant lie. In a way, Kennedy's tax cut could 
 have benefited the rich even more. Any tax cut from rates as high 
as 
 over 90% will have a much larger impact than a tax cut on tax 
rates 
 from 20 through 50%. 
 
 Bush only plans to reduce the top income tax rate from 39.6 to 
33%. 
 Kennedy cut taxes for the rich by one-third. Bush's income tax cut 
is 
 only a one-sixth reduction. Additionally, Bush's tax cut would 
return 
 less than 7 cents on each dollar earned, whereas Kennedy's tax cut 
 returned 26 cents on each dollar. These are facts conveniently 
left 
 out by Ted Kennedy and other Democrats - that Kennedy too 
drastically 
 cut taxes for the rich, and that Reagan's tax cuts were across-the-
 board and caused tax revenue to increase. The evil Republicans' 
tax 
 cuts even propose an end to the marriage penalty tax and the tax 
on 
 Social Security benefits! 
 
 
 
 
 So, Bush's tax cut of about 10% on the highest wage earners has 
had 
 the same impact as Kennedy's tax-cut of 30%?
 
 I agree that 94% is too high a tax rate. But what is NOT too high 
a 
 tax rate? 10%? 20%? Etc?



I'd say the top federal income tax rate should be 15%.

But remember: on top of the income tax there is the FICA (or 
payroll) tax, which is 15.3% if you're self-employed and 1/2 of that 
if you are employed (your employer picks up the other half).  This 
15.3% is paid for the first approximately $80,000 of adjusted gross 
income.





 
 Does the term point  of diminishing returns mean anything to you?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 When Bush needs him?
 Your hero Bush is acting like a vermin caught in a corner.
 
 OffWorld

 A review of the pre-9/11 presidential agenda indicates that as a 
central 
administration theme,  W wanted to expand the number of immigrants, 
particularly from 
Mexico.
W is out on the campaign trail, creating sound bites that obscure his 
actual message.   
The sound bites call for being tough on illegal aliens.  The reality of his 
campaign is to 
gain support to create more ways to allow illegal aliens to gain temporary 
legal status and 
remain in the U.S. 
More immigrants means lower labor costs and higher profits for 
businesses.  Just like 
another GOP policy, ever-decreasing taxes, the  W administration has as a core 
value the 
expansion of labor forces to lower business costs and increase profits. 
 Rank and file W supporters are in a state of suspension, trying to 
reconcile the 
discordant messages they are hearing.  On the one hand W actually wants more 
illegals in 
the country, although his sound bites call for being tough on illegals.  The 
GOP also wants 
more illegals, but  on a local basis the GOP is encouraging the arrest of 
illegals, prevention 
of illegal day-laborer gathering sites,  etc. 
The rank and file GOP and W TBs are confused, but they don't want to 
admit that the 
policies are at odds with each other, so while they are mentally busy trying to 
sort the 
discordant messages so that the two discordant policies make sense somehow, 
they are 
silent.  May they remain confused, and therefore, silent. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread feste37
Here are excerpts from an upcoming New Yorker article.  Wouldn't you  
sooner have an atheist in charge than this religious nut? 


UP IN THE AIR
Where is the Iraq war headed next?
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
Issue of 2005-12-05

A key element of the drawdown plans, not mentioned in the President's public 
statements, is that the departing American troops will be replaced by 
American airpower. Quick, deadly strikes by U.S. warplanes are seen as a 
way to improve dramatically the combat capability of even the weakest Iraqi 
combat units. The danger, military experts have told me, is that, while the 
number of American casualties would decrease as ground troops are 
withdrawn, the over-all level of violence and the number of Iraqi fatalities 
would increase unless there are stringent controls over who bombs what. 
***
Bush's closest advisers have long been aware of the religious nature of his 
policy commitments. In recent interviews, one former senior official, who 
served in Bush's first term, spoke extensively about the connection between 
the President's religious faith and his view of the war in Iraq. After the 
September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the former official said, he was told 
that 
Bush felt that God put me here to deal with the war on terror. The 
President's 
belief was fortified by the Republican sweep in the 2002 congressional 
elections; Bush saw the victory as a purposeful message from God that he's 
the man, the former official said. Publicly, Bush depicted his reëlection as a 
referendum on the war; privately, he spoke of it as another manifestation of 
divine purpose.
The former senior official said that after the election he made a lengthy 
inspection visit to Iraq and reported his findings to Bush in the White House: 
I 
said to the President, `We're not winning the war.' And he asked, `Are we 
losing?' I said, `Not yet.'  The President, he said, appeared displeased 
with 
that answer.
***
The President is more determined than ever to stay the course, the former 
defense official said. He doesn't feel any pain. Bush is a believer in the 
adage `People may suffer and die, but the Church advances.'  He said that 
the President had become more detached, leaving more issues to Karl Rove 
and Vice-President Cheney. They keep him in the gray world of religious 
idealism, where he wants to be anyway, the former defense official said. 
Bush's public appearances, for example, are generally scheduled in front of 
friendly audiences, most often at military bases. Four decades ago, President 
Lyndon Johnson, who was also confronted with an increasingly unpopular 
war, was limited to similar public forums. Johnson knew he was a prisoner in 
the White House, the former official said, but Bush has no idea.
***
The Air Force's worries have been subordinated, so far, to the political needs 
of the White House. The Administration's immediate political goal after the 
December elections is to show that the day-to-day conduct of the war can be 
turned over to the newly trained and equipped Iraqi military. It has already 
planned heavily scripted change-of-command ceremonies, complete with the 
lowering of American flags at bases and the raising of Iraqi ones.
more... 
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/051205fa... --- In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  When Bush needs him?
  Your hero Bush is acting like a vermin caught in a corner.
  
  OffWorld







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/28/05 10:09:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 When  Bush needs him?
 Your hero Bush is acting like a vermin caught in a  corner.
 
 OffWorld
 
 He is? Has there ever been a time you didn't think of Bush 
 as  vermin caught in a corner?If so tell us when and what pushed 
 you over the  edge.

The Curse of Cindy Sheehan triggered it.

Bush has been scuttling from corner to corner
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/29/05 9:49:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 
  Curse of Cindy Sheehan triggered it.

Judy , you really think Cindy Sheehan has been a curse on 
Bush? Honestly? I think Cindy Sheehan is a blessing on Bush. She is an extremist 
and never ceases to put her foot in her mouth and has really pissed off middle 
America. At first many were sympathetic to her "cause" (to have an interview 
with Bush)but the more they learned about her the more they associated her 
with a far left nut job. Personally, I wished the media would focus on her a bit 
more. I think Bush poll numbers are low because he allowed the Democrats to get 
away with the personal insults and liar gig far too long before ever defending 
himself and the public wants to be better informed as to what kind of progress 
is being made in Iraq, something the media could do if it didn't interfere with 
their agenda. I think the public quite frankly is confused by the rhetoric 
coming from the left that has attached their wagon to a victory by the 
terrorists hoping to prove Bush was wrong. As Rush Limbaugh has put it for so 
many years, Anything bad for America is Good news for the Democrats and anything 
good for America is usually bad for the 
Democrats.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/29/05 9:49:29 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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 The  Curse of Cindy Sheehan triggered it.
 
 
 
 
 Judy , you really think Cindy Sheehan has been a curse on  Bush? 
Honestly? I 
 think Cindy Sheehan is a blessing on Bush. She is an extremist  
and never 
 ceases to put her foot in her mouth and has really pissed off 
middle  America.






What Judy and the rest of the Left don't seem to understand is that 
a very large chunk of fence-sitters and undecided's get pushed into 
the Bush/Republican camp each and every time a Cindy Sheehan or a 
Michael Moore or an Al Franken open up their big yaps and speak 
nastily about the president or his policies.

If they only maintained a civil dialogue this wouldn't be the case.

So, yes, I agree with M. Dixon that Sheehan -- a woman that everyone 
knows already MET with Bush! -- is a blessing on Bush.








 At 
 first many were sympathetic to her cause (to have an interview  
with Bush) 
 but the more they learned about her the more they associated her  
with a far 
 left nut job. Personally, I wished the media would focus on her a 
bit  more. I 
 think Bush poll numbers are low because he allowed the Democrats 
to get  away 
 with the personal insults and liar gig far too long before ever 
defending  
 himself and the public wants to be better informed as to what kind 
of progress  is 
 being made in Iraq, something the media could do if it didn't 
interfere with  
 their agenda. I think the public quite frankly is confused by the 
rhetoric  
 coming from the left that has attached their wagon to a victory by 
the  
 terrorists hoping to prove Bush was wrong. As Rush Limbaugh has 
put it for so  many 
 years, Anything bad for America is Good news for the Democrats and 
anything  
 good for America is usually bad for the  Democrats.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread sparaig
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[...]
 terrorists hoping to prove Bush was wrong. As Rush Limbaugh has put 
it for so  many 
 years, Anything bad for America is Good news for the Democrats and 
anything  
 good for America is usually bad for the  Democrats.


So when Clinton was in power, any good news reflected badly on him?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 11/29/05 9:49:29 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  The  Curse of Cindy Sheehan triggered it.
  
  
  
  
  Judy , you really think Cindy Sheehan has been a curse on  Bush? 
 Honestly? I 
  think Cindy Sheehan is a blessing on Bush. She is an extremist  
 and never 
  ceases to put her foot in her mouth and has really pissed off 
 middle  America.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 What Judy and the rest of the Left don't seem to understand is that 
 a very large chunk of fence-sitters and undecided's get pushed into 
 the Bush/Republican camp each and every time a Cindy Sheehan or a 
 Michael Moore or an Al Franken open up their big yaps and speak 
 nastily about the president or his policies.
 
 If they only maintained a civil dialogue this wouldn't be the case.
 
 So, yes, I agree with M. Dixon that Sheehan -- a woman that 
everyone 
 knows already MET with Bush! -- is a blessing on Bush.
 


Cindy Sheehan? An angry mom venting at Bush, blaming him forthe death 
of her son... What? She's already met Bush? Oh, you mean all of this 
posturing is merely her being angry at Bush? How could I not have 
seen that?

Thanks for taking the wool from my eyes...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 11/29/05 9:49:29 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  The  Curse of Cindy Sheehan triggered it.
  
  
  
  
  Judy , you really think Cindy Sheehan has been a curse on  Bush? 
 Honestly? I 
  think Cindy Sheehan is a blessing on Bush. She is an extremist  
 and never 
  ceases to put her foot in her mouth and has really pissed off 
 middle  America.
 
 What Judy and the rest of the Left don't seem to understand is that 
 a very large chunk of fence-sitters and undecided's get pushed into 
 the Bush/Republican camp each and every time a Cindy Sheehan or a 
 Michael Moore or an Al Franken open up their big yaps and speak 
 nastily about the president or his policies.

I guess that's why Bush's approval ratings have been
going steadily upward since he refused to meet with
Cindy Sheehan, huh?





 
 If they only maintained a civil dialogue this wouldn't be the case.
 
 So, yes, I agree with M. Dixon that Sheehan -- a woman that 
everyone 
 knows already MET with Bush! -- is a blessing on Bush.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  At 
  first many were sympathetic to her cause (to have an interview  
 with Bush) 
  but the more they learned about her the more they associated her  
 with a far 
  left nut job. Personally, I wished the media would focus on her a 
 bit  more. I 
  think Bush poll numbers are low because he allowed the Democrats 
 to get  away 
  with the personal insults and liar gig far too long before ever 
 defending  
  himself and the public wants to be better informed as to what 
kind 
 of progress  is 
  being made in Iraq, something the media could do if it didn't 
 interfere with  
  their agenda. I think the public quite frankly is confused by the 
 rhetoric  
  coming from the left that has attached their wagon to a victory 
by 
 the  
  terrorists hoping to prove Bush was wrong. As Rush Limbaugh has 
 put it for so  many 
  years, Anything bad for America is Good news for the Democrats 
and 
 anything  
  good for America is usually bad for the  Democrats.
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread authfriend
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 I think the public quite frankly is confused by the rhetoric  
 coming from the left that has attached their wagon to a victory by
 the terrorists hoping to prove Bush was wrong.

http://tinyurl.com/aeeon







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

   In a message dated 11/29/05 9:49:29 A.M. Central Standard 
Time,  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
   The  Curse of Cindy Sheehan triggered it.
   
   
   
   
   Judy , you really think Cindy Sheehan has been a curse on  
Bush? 
  Honestly? I 
   think Cindy Sheehan is a blessing on Bush. She is an 
extremist  
  and never 
   ceases to put her foot in her mouth and has really pissed off 
  middle  America.
  
  What Judy and the rest of the Left don't seem to understand is 
that 
  a very large chunk of fence-sitters and undecided's get pushed 
into 
  the Bush/Republican camp each and every time a Cindy Sheehan or 
a 
  Michael Moore or an Al Franken open up their big yaps and speak 
  nastily about the president or his policies.
 
 I guess that's why Bush's approval ratings have been
 going steadily upward since he refused to meet with
 Cindy Sheehan, huh?



What approval rating?

You mean the one in November '04 which saw him swept to victory?




 
 
 
 
 
  
  If they only maintained a civil dialogue this wouldn't be the 
case.
  
  So, yes, I agree with M. Dixon that Sheehan -- a woman that 
 everyone 
  knows already MET with Bush! -- is a blessing on Bush.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   At 
   first many were sympathetic to her cause (to have an 
interview  
  with Bush) 
   but the more they learned about her the more they associated 
her  
  with a far 
   left nut job. Personally, I wished the media would focus on 
her a 
  bit  more. I 
   think Bush poll numbers are low because he allowed the 
Democrats 
  to get  away 
   with the personal insults and liar gig far too long before 
ever 
  defending  
   himself and the public wants to be better informed as to what 
 kind 
  of progress  is 
   being made in Iraq, something the media could do if it didn't 
  interfere with  
   their agenda. I think the public quite frankly is confused by 
the 
  rhetoric  
   coming from the left that has attached their wagon to a 
victory 
 by 
  the  
   terrorists hoping to prove Bush was wrong. As Rush Limbaugh 
has 
  put it for so  many 
   years, Anything bad for America is Good news for the Democrats 
 and 
  anything  
   good for America is usually bad for the  Democrats.
  
 








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/29/05 2:37:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As Rush 
  Limbaugh has put it for so many  years, Anything bad for 
  America is Good news for the Democrats and anything  good 
  for America is usually bad for the Democrats.So when 
  Clinton was in power, any good news reflected badly on 
him?

No, the point is this, when Bush became President and put his 
policies in effect, the Democrats resisted them so aggressively predicting doom 
and gloom at every turn, that if thepolicies succeeded, it made the 
Democrats look stupid and Bush smart and if they failed and caused problems the 
Democrats could gloat and say "we told you so". Which makes one wonder where are 
the loyalties of the democrats, with the good of their country or with the good 
of their party. Right now, the Democrats and various other leftist have spent so 
much political capital demonizing the President over his policy in Iraq 
that they can't afford for it to work and Iraq to become a democracy capable of 
standing on its own two feet because that would mean Bush was right and they 
were wrong and all of their emotionalism would make them look the fool to not 
only the rest of the country but also the rest of the world. Victory in Iraq is 
not an option for the Democrats not unless they can claim they engineered it in 
some way which at this point would be next to impossible to do. The only thing 
they can do is demand withdrawal of troops now in hopes that when Bush does see 
Iraqis ready to stand up and ours can start coming home, the democrats can say," 
See , we made him start bringing them home!" 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
In a message dated 11/29/05 9:49:29 A.M. Central Standard 
 Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  Curse of Cindy Sheehan triggered it.




Judy , you really think Cindy Sheehan has been a curse on  
 Bush? 
   Honestly? I 
think Cindy Sheehan is a blessing on Bush. She is an 
 extremist  
   and never 
ceases to put her foot in her mouth and has really pissed off 
   middle  America.
   
   What Judy and the rest of the Left don't seem to understand is 
 that 
   a very large chunk of fence-sitters and undecided's get pushed 
 into 
   the Bush/Republican camp each and every time a Cindy Sheehan or 
 a 
   Michael Moore or an Al Franken open up their big yaps and speak 
   nastily about the president or his policies.
  
  I guess that's why Bush's approval ratings have been
  going steadily upward since he refused to meet with
  Cindy Sheehan, huh?
 
 What approval rating?
 
 You mean the one in November '04 which saw him swept to victory?

Try reading what I wrote again, Shemp.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread authfriend
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 No, the point is this, when Bush became President and put his 
 policies in effect, the Democrats resisted them so aggressively 
 predicting doom  and gloom at every turn, that if the policies 
 succeeded, it made the  Democrats look stupid and Bush smart and if 
 they failed and caused problems the  Democrats could gloat and 
 say we told you so. Which makes one wonder where are the
 loyalties of the democrats, with the good of their country or with 
 the good of their party.

You mean, because we warned that Bush would be bad
for the country before he became president, we must
not have had the interests of the country at heart?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/29/05 7:19:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You 
  mean, because we warned that Bush would be badfor the country before he 
  became president, we mustnot have had the interests of the country at 
  heart?

No, but he was elected and democrats have no interest in 
seeing his policies work. When they do, it only proves them wrong, and 
makes Bush look like the "genius". The last thing you want to do is make your 
political opponent look good. So the hard core democrats resist even more hoping 
his policies fail. The more they can point to failure the better their chances 
of defeating their opponents in the next 
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread Paula Youmans












Democrats can make Bush look like a genius???

Miracle of miracles

I meanhim and his cronies cant
even do that.



Thats power dudetrue power!
Ha-ha











No, but he was elected and democrats have
no interest in seeing his policies work. When they do, it only proves
them wrong, and makes Bush look like the genius. 


















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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/29/05 8:05:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Democrats can make 
  Bush look like a genius???
  Miracle of 
  miracles
  I mean…him and his 
  cronies can’t even do that….
  
  That’s power 
  dude…true power! Ha-ha

Remember how Democrats warned us that tax cuts would only ruin 
the economy? Well they worked exactly like Bush said they would and exactly like 
JFK and Ronald Reagan said they would. They grew the economy causing even more 
revenue to be collected in the long run.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/29/05 7:19:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You  mean, because we warned that Bush would be bad
 for the country before he  became president, we must
 not have had the interests of the country at  heart?
 
 No, but he was elected and democrats have no interest in  seeing 
 his policieswork. When  they do, it only proves them wrong, and  
 makes Bush look like the genius. The last thing you want to do is 
 make your political opponent look good. So the hard core democrats 
 resist even more hoping his policies fail.

No, you're a little confused here.  We think they're
BAD POLICIES.  We think if they worked, they'd be
BAD FOR THE COUNTRY.  The ones he's managed to implement
already have done the country perfectly ghastly damage.

How could we be *happy* about that, for goodness' sake?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 11/29/05 8:05:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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 Democrats can make  Bush look like a genius??? 
 Miracle of  miracles 
 I mean…him and his  cronies can’t even do that…. 
 That’s power  dude…true power! Ha-ha
 
 Remember how Democrats warned us that tax cuts would only ruin  the 
 economy? Well they worked exactly like Bush said they would and 
 exactly like  JFK and Ronald Reagan said they would. They grew the 
 economy causing even more  revenue to be collected in the long run.

Oh, my God.  Talk about up-is-downism.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread off_world_beings
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 [...]
  terrorists hoping to prove Bush was wrong. As Rush Limbaugh has 
put 
 it for so  many 
  years, Anything bad for America is Good news for the Democrats and 
 anything  
  good for America is usually bad for the  Democrats.
 
 
 So when Clinton was in power, any good news reflected badly on him?


Lol. This is the first intelligent statement since the pidgeons were 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread off_world_beings
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  I think the public quite frankly is confused by the rhetoric  
  coming from the left that has attached their wagon to a victory by
  the terrorists hoping to prove Bush was wrong.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/aeeon



I wish there was a recomendation option for posts on FFL , (like on 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread feste37
Actually, Reaganomics was such a failure that Bush Senior had to raise taxes 
in order to offset some of the damage. Taxes will again have to be raised to 
cope with the disaster that G. W. Bush's policies have led to. 

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  Remember how Democrats warned us that tax cuts would only ruin  the 
  economy? Well they worked exactly like Bush said they would and 
  exactly like  JFK and Ronald Reagan said they would. They grew the 
  economy causing even more  revenue to be collected in the long run.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Mr. M.DIXON?

2005-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/29/05 7:19:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You  mean, because we warned that Bush would be bad
 for the country before he  became president, we must
 not have had the interests of the country at  heart?
 
 
 
 
 No, but he was elected and democrats have no interest in  seeing 
his policies 
 work. When  they do, it only proves them wrong, and  makes Bush 
look like the 
 genius. The last thing you want to do is make your  political 
opponent look 
 good. So the hard core democrats resist even more hoping  his 
policies fail. 
 The more they can point to failure the better their chances  of 
defeating 
 their opponents in the next  election.


Explain why libertarians are often upset with him, then. And explain 
the attitude of most of the rest of the world...






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