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On Dec 22, 2005, at 11:42 AM, authfriend wrote:
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For #4, clearly M. gives an intro path and then talks on big E
but never gives the full path,
on 12/22/05 10:21 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you ever been in his private suite? Flown on
the Movement's Boeing 707
(now sold), ridden in his Bentley?
Do you have proof, Mr. Archer? ;-)
Yes to the suite and the Bentley. Never rode in the jet, but I heard it was
pretty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just realized that this whole discussion of a
false guru is nonsense.
For you I presume. An analysis of its applicability for your life. Or
are you making a universal truth claim?
Of what purpose are all
these
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Where can I get an IKEA Boeing 707?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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on 12/22/05 10:00 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't figure out how anybody could
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I just realized that this whole discussion of a
false guru is nonsense. Of what purpose are all
these criteria? Are these to be used to select
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I just realized that this whole discussion of a
false guru is
This doctor's post does reflect some deep levels of phychological
immaturity and distored logic. Please tell me he is not a real doctor,
with real patients.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Dec 22, 2005, at 12:39 PM, braaahmaan wrote:I think the shanks are honored that way. And the Dali Lama who is viewed as an incarnation of Buddha (yes?)No, he is an incarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama but his primary past life recall is of the life of the "Great Fifth" Dalai lama. He is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just realized that this whole discussion of a
false guru is nonsense. Of what purpose are all
these criteria? Are these to be used to select a guru?
No, not as they are written. They are simply an
attempt by a mind to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just realized that this whole discussion of a
false guru is nonsense.
I hope your enlightenment realization was more substantive and profound.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
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The false guru criteria have nothing to do with wishing for a perfect
guru and disparages noone in particular. I find them to be a fairly
common sense approach to evaluating the field of spiritual teachers.
Yes,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just realized that this whole discussion of a
false guru is nonsense. Of what purpose are all
these criteria? Are these to be used to select a guru?
No, not as they are written. They are simply an
attempt by a mind to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason
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Where can I get an IKEA Boeing 707?
I was wondering the same thing. The new IKEA in
Montpellier carries only Airbus planes.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just realized that this whole discussion of a
false guru is nonsense. Of what purpose are all
these criteria? Are these to be used to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just realized that this whole discussion of a
false guru is nonsense. Of what purpose are all
these criteria? Are these to be used to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 22, 2005, at 12:39 PM, braaahmaan wrote:
I think the shanks are honored that way. And the Dali Lama who is
viewed as an incarnation of Buddha (yes?)
No, he is an incarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama but his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just realized that this whole discussion of a
false guru is nonsense.
For you I presume. An analysis of its applicability for your life. Or
On Dec 22, 2005, at 6:01 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 22, 2005, at 12:39 PM, braaahmaan wrote: I think the shanks are honored that way. And the Dali Lama who is viewed as an incarnation of Buddha (yes?) No, he is an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 12/22/05 10:21 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you ever been in his private suite? Flown on
the Movement's Boeing 707
(now sold), ridden in his Bentley?
Do you have proof, Mr. Archer? ;-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 22, 2005, at 6:01 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 22, 2005, at 12:39 PM, braaahmaan wrote:
I think the shanks are honored that way. And
on 12/22/05 7:10 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 12/22/05 10:21 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you ever been in his private suite? Flown on
the Movement's Boeing 707
(now sold), ridden in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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on 12/22/05 7:10 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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on 12/22/05 10:21 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you ever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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on 12/22/05 7:10 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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on 12/22/05 10:21 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you ever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maharishi walked away from middle class life after he left college,
to live a simple life, sleeping on the ground outside Guru Dev's
door. After Guru Dev died, MMY lived in a cave for a while, then was
inspired to go
Excellent list. Could be used for major and minor gurus.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
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http://energygrid.com/spirit/ap-falsegurutest.html
1.States his or her own enlightenment: The wisest masters tend not
to state their own enlightenment
Perhaps a few adders:
-- Takes oneself very seriously. Can't laugh at oneself.
-- Is thin-skinned, feels insulted, even at minor things.
-- gets obessesed with things of the past -- can't let it go
-- gets angry with little provocation
-- appears gloomy and dour at times
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Excellent list. Could be used for major and minor gurus.
To me, it reads more like a Test of Characteristics I Don't Think
Gurus Should Have.
Even so, MMY doesn't do too badly on it. Some of the
criteria apply to him,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Excellent list. Could be used for major and minor gurus.
To me, it reads more like a Test of Characteristics I Don't Think
Gurus Should
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
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http://energygrid.com/spirit/ap-falsegurutest.html
Can't see a lot of use in such a list. Does anyone use such a
checklist to choose a teacher?
Isn't the search for a teacher of knowledge kind of like ice
On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:01 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:Can't see a lot of use in such a list. Does anyone use such a checklist to choose a teacher? Isn't the search for a teacher of knowledge kind of like ice cream; when we want it we focus on the sweetness and when we don't we focus on the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Excellent list. Could be used for major and minor gurus.
It's a silly list. TM is definitely a registered trademark and has
been for around 40 years. The list would apply to TM in the most
idealistic days as well as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Perhaps a few adders:
-- Takes oneself very seriously. Can't laugh at oneself.
-- Is thin-skinned, feels insulted, even at minor things.
-- gets obessesed with things of the past -- can't let it go
-- gets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Excellent list. Could be used for major and minor gurus.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does MMY measure up? It ain't looking good...but where can I
get a silk dhoti like that...
On Dec 21, 2005, at 4:07 PM, markmeredith2002 wrote:
http://energygrid.com/spirit/ap-falsegurutest.html
1. States
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oops, forgot these:
On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Vaj wrote:
3. Acts omnipotently with no accountability: Some
spiritual
communities are run like concentration camps, with guru and his
chosen
ones
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Excellent list. Could be used for major and minor gurus.
It's a silly list.
Ok then.Its certainly not a mandatory thing. If its useful,
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Excellent list. Could be used for major and minor gurus.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:01 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
Can't see a lot of use in such a list. Does anyone use such a
checklist to choose a teacher?
Isn't the search for a teacher of knowledge kind of like ice cream;
when
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I bet someplace, somewhere, there's a jivan mukta
blazing in the brilliance of Brahman who would
miserably fail this test.
...and a complete and utter charlatan who would pass with flying
colors...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:01 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
Can't see a lot of use in such a list. Does anyone use such a
checklist to choose a teacher?
It seems common sense to me.
I think the list is common sense --
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I bet someplace, somewhere, there's a jivan mukta
blazing in the brilliance of Brahman who would
miserably fail this test.
So what? And
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I bet someplace, somewhere, there's a jivan mukta
blazing in the brilliance of Brahman who would
miserably fail this test.
...and a
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Excellent list. Could be used for major and minor gurus.
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You said To me, it reads more like a 'Test of Characteristics I
Don't
Think Gurus Should Have.'
1) More than what?
More than a reasonably objective list.
What characteristics of gurus would a a reasonably
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