Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. But of course, as you so often say, the fault was all on my ex Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:54 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** like I said, B for boring. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Honesty is good. But I don't believe in the notions of karma and reincarnation, unless karma meant actions we perform. But even then - I think being in service of truth and being aligned with the existence's will is what works for me - even if that means I am rude and insulting, I have an extremely low tolerance for bullshit, purveyors of bullshit who think they can peddle their bullshit unchallenged. My challenge this lifetime has been to properly channel this anger, it would overwhelm me with confusion, burden, guilt earlier but now I feed off it. I can now precisely target these peddlers of bullshit without letting my anger overwhelm me. Anyway I digress - I don't think you or anyone else will reincarnate - animal or not. I am actually in line with Christianity here - I'm too narcissistic, Ravi has only been created once and will exist for the rest of the eternity, I will not accept anything else unless I can come back as a better me again and I will fight for it tooth and nail :-) But of course there is no proof of reincarnation of individuals, unless reincarnation meant manifestations of consciousness, as in consciouness incarnates again and again which then again implies there will be only one Ravi and Emily - all this is subject to modification though - who fucking knows. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife to consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't want to be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be fine, with a friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean how much closer to God might I get?) -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other person's feeling or deny that it even exists. Wow, good - thank you. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, offended someone. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Ravi, I'm afraid it is your revisionist posts that are always the fantasy. This is well documented. But I get it that it makes you feel better when you after the fact can claim that none of it is what you meant to say, and that this is the way it is. The problem is, that no one believes it, even when you scream it repeatedly. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven different ways she may want to perform oral sex? Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. Ann, I do apologize if facts don't suit your fancy. And I do apologize if Ravi has made an utter fool of himself on many occasions. He even admits so himself. But try not coming off looking like a total hypocrite. We are accountable for what write here. And if we don't wish to be held accountable, well, then, just don't post here. But you just can't have it both ways.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Trolling for a blow job, Steve? Got nothing for you here. Hope you get lucky. You're more obnoxious than getting a case of chiggers. Chiggers try to get under your skin, but at least they have the good sense to eventually die off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven different ways she may want to perform oral sex? Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: Trolling for a blow job, Steve? Got nothing for you here. Hope you get lucky. You're more obnoxious than getting a case of chiggers. Chiggers try to get under your skin, but at least they have the good sense to eventually die off. Look Raunchy, I know how you feel about that period, and I don't care to dredge it up myself. But if Ravi is going to carry on about how empathetic he is, about how much he loves women, and what an idiot I am to doubt him, then I am going to say something on my behalf. That's how it works here. So maybe on occasion you might want address comments of this nature that you just addressed to me, to Ravi, or even Judy.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. Ann, I do apologize if facts don't suit your fancy. And I do apologize if Ravi has made an utter fool of himself on many occasions. He even admits so himself. But try not coming off looking like a total hypocrite. We are accountable for what write here. And if we don't wish to be held accountable, well, then, just don't post here. But you just can't have it both ways. If you care to rewrite this it might make a modicum of sense. As it stands right now I can't make heads or tails of it as it either relates to me or what is going on re: what you and I and Ravi just posted. All you are doing is reacting blindly and nothing of what you say is either clear or relevant. It is not that I don't want to understand what you just wrote it is that I simply CAN'T figure it out. That is usually the result when someone writes something in a knee jerk fashion while foaming at the mouth.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: If you care to rewrite this it might make a modicum of sense. As it stands right now I can't make heads or tails of it as it either relates to me or what is going on re: what you and I and Ravi just posted. All you are doing is reacting blindly and nothing of what you say is either clear or relevant. It is not that I don't want to understand what you just wrote it is that I simply CAN'T figure it out. That is usually the result when someone writes something in a knee jerk fashion while foaming at the mouth. Hey, you know what? Don't even worry about it. Ain't no big deal.
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On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:43 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven different ways she may want to perform oral sex? Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself
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the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, uh, wasn't a request Ravi. More a demand IIRC. Why don't you bring it up again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to you. clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors. We saw it again today. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members
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emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting
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Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, uh, wasn't a request Ravi. More a demand IIRC. Why don't you bring it up again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to you. clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors. We saw it again today. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right
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I believe the phrase you are looking for to describe your response to this and the previous posts I made regarding your behavior is, No Contest It's all good Rav. It's all good. We're all bozos on the bus. Someone is sure to befriend you and lead you in good directions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, uh, wasn't a request Ravi. More a demand IIRC. Why don't you bring it up again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to you. clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors. We saw it again today. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you
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I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife to consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't want to be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be fine, with a friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean how much closer to God might I get?) From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other person's feeling or deny that it even exists. Wow, good - thank you. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, offended someone. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi
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Honesty is good. But I don't believe in the notions of karma and reincarnation, unless karma meant actions we perform. But even then - I think being in service of truth and being aligned with the existence's will is what works for me - even if that means I am rude and insulting, I have an extremely low tolerance for bullshit, purveyors of bullshit who think they can peddle their bullshit unchallenged. My challenge this lifetime has been to properly channel this anger, it would overwhelm me with confusion, burden, guilt earlier but now I feed off it. I can now precisely target these peddlers of bullshit without letting my anger overwhelm me. Anyway I digress - I don't think you or anyone else will reincarnate - animal or not. I am actually in line with Christianity here - I'm too narcissistic, Ravi has only been created once and will exist for the rest of the eternity, I will not accept anything else unless I can come back as a better me again and I will fight for it tooth and nail :-) But of course there is no proof of reincarnation of individuals, unless reincarnation meant manifestations of consciousness, as in consciouness incarnates again and again which then again implies there will be only one Ravi and Emily - all this is subject to modification though - who fucking knows. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife to consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't want to be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be fine, with a friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean how much closer to God might I get?) -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other person's feeling or deny that it even exists. Wow, good - thank you. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, offended someone. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I
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Hmmm. That was pretty profound Ravi - you make many interesting points. My favorite thing you said was who fucking knows. Smile. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Honesty is good. But I don't believe in the notions of karma and reincarnation, unless karma meant actions we perform. But even then - I think being in service of truth and being aligned with the existence's will is what works for me - even if that means I am rude and insulting, I have an extremely low tolerance for bullshit, purveyors of bullshit who think they can peddle their bullshit unchallenged. My challenge this lifetime has been to properly channel this anger, it would overwhelm me with confusion, burden, guilt earlier but now I feed off it. I can now precisely target these peddlers of bullshit without letting my anger overwhelm me. Anyway I digress - I don't think you or anyone else will reincarnate - animal or not. I am actually in line with Christianity here - I'm too narcissistic, Ravi has only been created once and will exist for the rest of the eternity, I will not accept anything else unless I can come back as a better me again and I will fight for it tooth and nail :-) But of course there is no proof of reincarnation of individuals, unless reincarnation meant manifestations of consciousness, as in consciouness incarnates again and again which then again implies there will be only one Ravi and Emily - all this is subject to modification though - who fucking knows. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife to consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't want to be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be fine, with a friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean how much closer to God might I get?) From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other person's feeling or deny that it even exists. Wow, good - thank you. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, offended someone. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. But of course, as you so often say, the fault was all on my ex On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another
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like I said, B for boring. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Honesty is good. But I don't believe in the notions of karma and reincarnation, unless karma meant actions we perform. But even then - I think being in service of truth and being aligned with the existence's will is what works for me - even if that means I am rude and insulting, I have an extremely low tolerance for bullshit, purveyors of bullshit who think they can peddle their bullshit unchallenged. My challenge this lifetime has been to properly channel this anger, it would overwhelm me with confusion, burden, guilt earlier but now I feed off it. I can now precisely target these peddlers of bullshit without letting my anger overwhelm me. Anyway I digress - I don't think you or anyone else will reincarnate - animal or not. I am actually in line with Christianity here - I'm too narcissistic, Ravi has only been created once and will exist for the rest of the eternity, I will not accept anything else unless I can come back as a better me again and I will fight for it tooth and nail :-) But of course there is no proof of reincarnation of individuals, unless reincarnation meant manifestations of consciousness, as in consciouness incarnates again and again which then again implies there will be only one Ravi and Emily - all this is subject to modification though - who fucking knows. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife to consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't want to be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be fine, with a friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean how much closer to God might I get?) -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other person's feeling or deny that it even exists. Wow, good - thank you. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, offended someone. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't
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He's just upset that he wasn't at the top of my hit list yesterday. I *told* him I might not get around to him until Saturday, but he got all hurt anyway. I guess he was hopin' against hope... It's hard for him to internalize his loss of status on FFL after so many years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. Your malicious intentions are at the heart of them. You are a constant source of ill will and misunderstanding here. You are a troll and the intentions of this post are unfriendly. Does anyone remember my use of the phrase ...when she Hits The Ground Hating again just after the clock ticks midnight Friday a couple of days ago. I want to thank Judy for proving me prescient. Ten minutes after the Post Count thread appeared to indicate a new posting week, Judy began spewing hatred on this forum again, aimed it at her habitual enemies. A little less than four hours later, she has made 11 posts that couldn't reek more of hatred and malevolence if Satan himself had spewed them forth. The woman couldn't be more insane -- and more predictable in her insanity -- if she tried. As usual, Barry is speaking about himself only pretending it is about someone else. As predictable as it is that Judy will post again is your cookie cutter response that is so threadbare it is see through. Now why not address the subject at hand instead of throwing out these meaningless, unfounded generalities that show us nothing and prove nothing. Don't you have a walk to take to get some coffee at some quaint bistro or something instead of bothering us?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Do a search on the numerous times I have discussed dissociation, often about my own experiences with it, to see why Judy didn't quote from any of them. but instead, went to Wiki to not only change the context, but to change the actual term to depersonalization and dereaization to make it all sound more dramatic. Oh, my, none of this is true. See the whole discussion between Curtis, me, and Ravi here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/341877 If you'd like to discuss the untruthfulness of your paragraph above, Curtis, I'd be happy to indulge you. Just let me know. I don't imagine you'll want to go into it, though. (So interesting how Curtis freely attributes negative motivations to others but screams bloody murder whenever anyone does that to him, isn't it?) My point had nothing to do with that, but I never got to it because you followed Judy down the rabbit hole. (tip of the hat to Richard) When you dissociate from your emotions here as reflected in your language, you start your abusive routine. It is very obvious to me. Trouble with this is that, as in the case Curtis was referring to, in his abusive routines, Ravi will stick in a third-person reference to himself (which amounts, according to Curtis, to Ravi dissociating from his emotions) here and there in the middle of material that is in first-person: You would be an idiot if you think I haven't or don't interact with Bob and/or Robin directly and like you suspect I have and do love, respect both - the last time I checked they haven't undergone any sex change. Let me tell you a secret, if you are a man - the feeling of being loved and respected by Ravi after being baited and challenged by him is one of the most awesomest feelings. So unless I take fancy to someone everyone has to go through this process. I regret to say it but only a few have tasted that and based upon your current behavior your chances to succeed are very slim in light of your behavior discussed on this thread. Of course as you know Ravi is always ever open, relaxed and alert even as he challenges and confronts - so you may have good chance if you follow the below - we have already discussed this but considering your disability I am summarizing and reiterating it again http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/341769 Dissociation (as I have discussed at length here, has a useful function in certain contexts, and is not pathological unless you are stuck in it and can't choose to associate into our feelings. My point to you had nothing to do with that extreme of the spectrum. You are too busy doing troll work to have a discussion with Ravi, so I immediately lost interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Well stop obscuring my point. I said - Your response to Emily was cold, hostile, self-righteous and contemptuous. You didn't address anything about misinterpretation in your response. Where was the acknowledgement of Emily's POV? Was she a robot - was she not entitled to her feelings - unless you think she's lying about her feelings? Since this in light of Share's accusation perhaps referring to Robin's responses may help? You know what Curtis baby - you don't show any fucking sensitivity (did you even read the sample response?) and that's a pattern with you - remember your post on disassociation. No - there's no revealing of my shallow agenda - it's revealing of your patterns. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: (snip) (to Ravi) You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. This old chestnut just cracks me up. I only *wish* I had the kind of power to influence others that Curtis and his buddies attribute to me. Yes, it's sad. Nobody would ever say anything negative about Curtis or Barry or Share, etc., if it weren't for the fact that folks are desperate for my approval.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: So glad you weighed in for more understanding no doubt, Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. The consensus of the discussion that it brought out was that like my GF, some here thought it was not a rape but a woman in her power blowing off her husband and living it up in a hedonistic fantasy. I believe that the author's intent was to show a man's powerlessness in the face of a woman owning her personal power over men. It continues to be a popular song in my repertoire, as it was tonight, because it makes people think. I brought it to her attention because it makes people think. Is that clear enough? No? Yes, it's quite clear (whether it's *honest*, I don't know). I'm still wondering why you didn't explain this in the first place, given that Emily had asked you the direct question. Ok how is this: the song was written by people not on this forum, and concerns the lives of other people than exist in this time and place on this discussion forum Emily was the one who found the lyrics and posted them, and I pointed out the most thought provoking verse as I do when I am performing the song in my shows. I want people to think about this verse because it is complex and I missed its meaning at first. Emily at the time was sharing an artist who also is not afraid of expressing figurative language based interesting lyrics. I did not send the lyrics to Emily, I corrected the ones I thought were wrong and directed her attention to something interesting to me and every audience I have performed it for. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? She looked up the lyrics. I pointed out the verse that was the most controversial in meaning to promote the thoughtful discussion of the intention of the writer. At the time it worked but apparently in retrospect she has taken my whole intention in a different direction than intended. Sorry Judy, no drama here. Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. Your malicious intentions are at the heart of them. You are a constant source of ill will and misunderstanding here. You are a troll and the intentions of this post are unfriendly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So glad you weighed in for more understanding no doubt, Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. The consensus of the discussion that it brought out was that like my GF, some here thought it was not a rape but a woman in her power blowing off her husband and living it up in a hedonistic fantasy. I believe that the author's intent was to show a man's powerlessness in the face of a woman owning her personal power over men. It continues to be a popular song in my repertoire, as it was tonight, because it makes people think. I brought it to her attention because it makes people think. Is that clear enough? No? Yes, it's quite clear (whether it's *honest*, I don't know). I'm still wondering why you didn't explain this in the first place, given that Emily had asked you the direct question. Do you think it could have been because the post contained more than just a simple direct question? Do you think? Seriously do you think that the whole post had more than just a simple direct question to me as you misrepresent here, or do you think that the whole message including the phrase: If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you just MIGHT be experienced at the receiving end as more than a simple question? Especially since I had taken her at her word the last time we discussed this that we were simpatico about its meaning and certainly not me trying to send her a rape message for some unknown dark purpose. I am on the fence about you Judy. It may well be that you actually do lack the ability to understand the whole context of the post seen from my perspective, receiving it out of the blue. But Emily and I understand each other now, despite yours and Ravi's ill-intentioned spin on our discussion. Ok how is this: the song was written by people not on this forum, and concerns the lives of other people than exist in this time and place on this discussion forum Emily was the one who found the lyrics and posted them, and I pointed out the most thought provoking verse as I do when I am performing the song in my shows. I want people to think about this verse because it is complex and I missed its meaning at first. Emily at the time was sharing an artist who also is not afraid of expressing figurative language based interesting lyrics. I did not send the lyrics to Emily, I corrected the ones I thought were wrong and directed her attention to something interesting to me and every audience I have performed it for. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? She looked up the lyrics. I pointed out the verse that was the most controversial in meaning to promote the thoughtful discussion of the intention of the writer. At the time it worked but apparently in retrospect she has taken my whole intention in a different direction than intended. Sorry Judy, no drama here. Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. Your malicious intentions are at the heart of them. You are a constant source of ill will and misunderstanding here. You are a troll and the intentions of this post are unfriendly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So glad you weighed in for more understanding no doubt, Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. The consensus of the discussion that it brought out was that like my GF, some here thought it was not a rape but a woman in her power blowing off her husband and living it up in a hedonistic fantasy. I believe that the author's intent was to show a man's powerlessness in the face of a woman owning her personal power over men. It continues to be a popular song in my repertoire, as it was tonight, because it makes people think. I brought it to her attention because it makes people think. Is that clear enough? No? Yes, it's quite clear (whether it's *honest*, I don't know). I'm still wondering why you didn't explain this in the first place, given that Emily had asked you the direct question. Do you think it could have been because the post contained more than just a simple direct question? I have no idea why you didn't answer the question. It was obviously something that was bothering Emily, and you responded to her post without answering it. Do you think? Seriously do you think that the whole post had more than just a simple direct question to me as you misrepresent here Show us where I misrepresented anything. Show us where I suggested there wasn't any more to her post than her question. Then when you can't do either, explain why you felt you had to misrepresent what *I* said. We can continue the discussion, if you like, once you've done all that. , or do you think that the whole message including the phrase: If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you just MIGHT be experienced at the receiving end as more than a simple question? Especially since I had taken her at her word the last time we discussed this that we were simpatico about its meaning and certainly not me trying to send her a rape message for some unknown dark purpose. I am on the fence about you Judy. It may well be that you actually do lack the ability to understand the whole context of the post seen from my perspective, receiving it out of the blue. But Emily and I understand each other now, despite yours and Ravi's ill-intentioned spin on our discussion. Ok how is this: the song was written by people not on this forum, and concerns the lives of other people than exist in this time and place on this discussion forum Emily was the one who found the lyrics and posted them, and I pointed out the most thought provoking verse as I do when I am performing the song in my shows. I want people to think about this verse because it is complex and I missed its meaning at first. Emily at the time was sharing an artist who also is not afraid of expressing figurative language based interesting lyrics. I did not send the lyrics to Emily, I corrected the ones I thought were wrong and directed her attention to something interesting to me and every audience I have performed it for. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? She looked up the lyrics. I pointed out the verse that was the most controversial in meaning to promote the thoughtful discussion of the intention of the writer. At the time it worked but apparently in retrospect she has taken my whole intention in a different direction than intended. Sorry Judy, no drama here. Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. Your malicious intentions are at the heart of them. You are a constant source of ill will and misunderstanding here. You are a troll and the intentions of this post are unfriendly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in
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It has gotten so bad that I won't even go to the restroom without imagining your approval. But it makes me feel like I belong, so I am willing to make the trade. I am pit-bulling Curtis and Barry for the time being, but please let me know if and when I should readjust my targets, as I long ago gave up a mind of my own. There, I said it. Don't be hating, peeps. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snip) (to Ravi) You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. This old chestnut just cracks me up. I only *wish* I had the kind of power to influence others that Curtis and his buddies attribute to me. Yes, it's sad. Nobody would ever say anything negative about Curtis or Barry or Share, etc., if it weren't for the fact that folks are desperate for my approval.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
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I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
So glad you weighed in for more understanding no doubt, Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. The consensus of the discussion that it brought out was that like my GF, some here thought it was not a rape but a woman in her power blowing off her husband and living it up in a hedonistic fantasy. I believe that the author's intent was to show a man's powerlessness in the face of a woman owning her personal power over men. It continues to be a popular song in my repertoire, as it was tonight, because it makes people think. I brought it to her attention because it makes people think. Is that clear enough? No? Ok how is this: the song was written by people not on this forum, and concerns the lives of other people than exist in this time and place on this discussion forum Emily was the one who found the lyrics and posted them, and I pointed out the most thought provoking verse as I do when I am performing the song in my shows. I want people to think about this verse because it is complex and I missed its meaning at first. Emily at the time was sharing an artist who also is not afraid of expressing figurative language based interesting lyrics. I did not send the lyrics to Emily, I corrected the ones I thought were wrong and directed her attention to something interesting to me and every audience I have performed it for. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? She looked up the lyrics. I pointed out the verse that was the most controversial in meaning to promote the thoughtful discussion of the intention of the writer. At the time it worked but apparently in retrospect she has taken my whole intention in a different direction than intended. Sorry Judy, no drama here. Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. Your malicious intentions are at the heart of them. You are a constant source of ill will and misunderstanding here. You are a troll and the intentions of this post are unfriendly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
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Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
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Well stop obscuring my point. I said - Your response to Emily was cold, hostile, self-righteous and contemptuous. You didn't address anything about misinterpretation in your response. Where was the acknowledgement of Emily's POV? Was she a robot - was she not entitled to her feelings - unless you think she's lying about her feelings? Since this in light of Share's accusation perhaps referring to Robin's responses may help? You know what Curtis baby - you don't show any fucking sensitivity (did you even read the sample response?) and that's a pattern with you - remember your post on disassociation. No - there's no revealing of my shallow agenda - it's revealing of your patterns. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. Your malicious intentions are at the heart of them. You are a constant source of ill will and misunderstanding here. You are a troll and the intentions of this post are unfriendly. Does anyone remember my use of the phrase ...when she Hits The Ground Hating again just after the clock ticks midnight Friday a couple of days ago. I want to thank Judy for proving me prescient. Ten minutes after the Post Count thread appeared to indicate a new posting week, Judy began spewing hatred on this forum again, aimed it at her habitual enemies. A little less than four hours later, she has made 11 posts that couldn't reek more of hatred and malevolence if Satan himself had spewed them forth. The woman couldn't be more insane -- and more predictable in her insanity -- if she tried.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. Your malicious intentions are at the heart of them. You are a constant source of ill will and misunderstanding here. You are a troll and the intentions of this post are unfriendly. Does anyone remember my use of the phrase ...when she Hits The Ground Hating again just after the clock ticks midnight Friday a couple of days ago. I want to thank Judy for proving me prescient. Ten minutes after the Post Count thread appeared to indicate a new posting week, Judy began spewing hatred on this forum again, aimed it at her habitual enemies. A little less than four hours later, she has made 11 posts that couldn't reek more of hatred and malevolence if Satan himself had spewed them forth. The woman couldn't be more insane -- and more predictable in her insanity -- if she tried. As usual, Barry is speaking about himself only pretending it is about someone else. As predictable as it is that Judy will post again is your cookie cutter response that is so threadbare it is see through. Now why not address the subject at hand instead of throwing out these meaningless, unfounded generalities that show us nothing and prove nothing. Don't you have a walk to take to get some coffee at some quaint bistro or something instead of bothering us?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. Ravi, will you marry me? On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
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Oh before you try another one of context switching tricks. You have every right to be dismissive of Emily but to pretend and spin as if it's not insensitive, cold and contemptuous towards her feelings reveals your patterns. Accusing others of being malicious trolls and having shallow agendas - another pattern of yours. Of course you go - oh Emily was being dishonest then you are in real trouble dude - she's one of the most intelligent, sensitive posters who treaats everyone kindly. Good luck buddy. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Well stop obscuring my point. I said - Your response to Emily was cold, hostile, self-righteous and contemptuous. You didn't address anything about misinterpretation in your response. Where was the acknowledgement of Emily's POV? Was she a robot - was she not entitled to her feelings - unless you think she's lying about her feelings? Since this in light of Share's accusation perhaps referring to Robin's responses may help? You know what Curtis baby - you don't show any fucking sensitivity (did you even read the sample response?) and that's a pattern with you - remember your post on disassociation. No - there's no revealing of my shallow agenda - it's revealing of your patterns. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake
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Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel
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Do a search on the numerous times I have discussed dissociation, often about my own experiences with it, to see why Judy didn't quote from any of them. but instead, went to Wiki to not only change the context, but to change the actual term to depersonalization and dereaization to make it all sound more dramatic. My point had nothing to do with that, but I never got to it because you followed Judy down the rabbit hole. (tip of the hat to Richard) When you dissociate from your emotions here as reflected in your language, you start your abusive routine. It is very obvious to me. Dissociation (as I have discussed at length here, has a useful function in certain contexts, and is not pathological unless you are stuck in it and can't choose to associate into our feelings. My point to you had nothing to do with that extreme of the spectrum. You are too busy doing troll work to have a discussion with Ravi, so I immediately lost interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Well stop obscuring my point. I said - Your response to Emily was cold, hostile, self-righteous and contemptuous. You didn't address anything about misinterpretation in your response. Where was the acknowledgement of Emily's POV? Was she a robot - was she not entitled to her feelings - unless you think she's lying about her feelings? Since this in light of Share's accusation perhaps referring to Robin's responses may help? You know what Curtis baby - you don't show any fucking sensitivity (did you even read the sample response?) and that's a pattern with you - remember your post on disassociation. No - there's no revealing of my shallow agenda - it's revealing of your patterns. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on
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Look, look.. Stop being silly Curtis - read my post and Judy's again - yes we both dislike you as your sorry ass stands today, we both enjoy attacking you and we WERE attacking you but, but, BUT.entirely different perspectives, different points. But you have to keep obscuring, keep switching the context - good job on that. I have responded to mine, Judy surely will whip your ass tomorrow..LOL. Bullshit on disassociation - I think you are pretty ignorant based upon what you rant here, little knowledge as Judy says on your ability to judge and your experiences comparing it to altered states of consciousness. If I were you I would keep my ignorant fucking mouth shut. FYI - Sorry to disturb you in your fantasy la la land, but I have never shied away from acknowledging that I abuse and insult people. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Do a search on the numerous times I have discussed dissociation, often about my own experiences with it, to see why Judy didn't quote from any of them. but instead, went to Wiki to not only change the context, but to change the actual term to depersonalization and dereaization to make it all sound more dramatic. My point had nothing to do with that, but I never got to it because you followed Judy down the rabbit hole. (tip of the hat to Richard) When you dissociate from your emotions here as reflected in your language, you start your abusive routine. It is very obvious to me. Dissociation (as I have discussed at length here, has a useful function in certain contexts, and is not pathological unless you are stuck in it and can't choose to associate into our feelings. My point to you had nothing to do with that extreme of the spectrum. You are too busy doing troll work to have a discussion with Ravi, so I immediately lost interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Well stop obscuring my point. I said - Your response to Emily was cold, hostile, self-righteous and contemptuous. You didn't address anything about misinterpretation in your response. Where was the acknowledgement of Emily's POV? Was she a robot - was she not entitled to her feelings - unless you think she's lying about her feelings? Since this in light of Share's accusation perhaps referring to Robin's responses may help? You know what Curtis baby - you don't show any fucking sensitivity (did you even read the sample response?) and that's a pattern with you - remember your post on disassociation. No - there's no revealing of my shallow agenda - it's revealing of your patterns. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man,
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. Ravi, will you marry me? Yes I'm honored and would love to dear Ann - but your poor hubby, we shouldn't make him sad :-) On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal is to be understood by other people here. Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
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Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover. To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed toward you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There are no hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you here. I have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my goal
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Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another music lover
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Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going
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Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other person's feeling or deny that it even exists. Wow, good - thank you. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, offended someone. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post
