What about the statement by Maharishi that: 'Evolution never ends, it
goes on for ever and ever'.
Brahman consciousness itself is said to just be the pinnacle of
individual evolution, there is nothing more he can do for himself.
For the man in Brahman to evolve he then must become the tool for
Great thread. I'm posting some comments following up on Richard's in
a very loose fashion.
Like Richard's experience, my sense of self is a presence that is
unengaged and without attributes. In my funky example of the bagel's
hole, it (self) is defined by what surrounds it but is in itself
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote:
ME
I do and it isn't ED. My identity is not the silent quality of my mind
that exists in my activity. That is not a self evident experience.
It takes a belief system to support it. Just because I have a silent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@...
wrote:
Curtis, your POV on this subject has been of great value for me. For
myself, the cultural value placed on the silent witness by Maharishi
and other vedanta teachers, is something I'm still willing to affirm,
based
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
[snip]
The approach of cutting a person's inner qualities into parts doesn't
work too well for me in discussing what I value about my inner state
of identity. And by saying that the silent quality of my mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
[snip]
The approach of cutting a person's inner qualities into parts doesn't
work too well for me in discussing what I value about my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
[snip]
The approach of cutting a person's inner
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@...
I don't think I *am* anything - I prefer to think that I am the
possibility of being/experiencing something (anything?). In some odd
way my self is the negative pole to the *positive* of the objective
world (objective here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@
I don't think I *am* anything - I prefer to think that I am the
possibility of being/experiencing something (anything?). In some odd
way my self
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote:
ME
I do and it isn't ED. My identity is not the silent quality of
my mind
that exists in my activity. That is not a self evident
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote:
And silent quality of the mind is kind a snoozer for me. Who would
identify with that -- as described as such.
I find a natural
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
In what sense is the brain you have the *same* as the brain you had
thirty years ago? All the molecules have changed. The patterns have
changed. Are you not the same person as thirty years ago? (Just trying
to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@...
wrote:
a gangbang on Vaj? that's rich. howabout people here are just
fed up with his arrogance and pinning all of his woes on the
Maharishi? how about people calling it like it is.
OK, Dawn. How *about* people calling it
Do you have anything to say about any of this, Dawn?
you quoted me accurately...what would you like me to say? you have
plenty of your own conclusions. if you are ok with 'em, me too.
Surely if the ... quotes are an example of what a
person who has attained the state of CC (I have com-
i am enjoying the de facto title of this post; what is the nature of
attachment? especially in light of Barry's latest post to me, in
which he attempts to pin down my perspective and identity, to
verify...what? what if there is really nothing there?
and that is what my post is about- how
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
It's funny, whenever someone brings up a
topic and I comment honestly--not based on
image or a publicity--this truth seems to
rankle some who hold onto the image.
Or, some of us don't think (a) you're
commenting
--- InFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@...> wrote:snip>It's funny, whenever someone brings up atopic and I comment honestly--not based onimage or a publicity--this truth seems to rankle some who hold onto the image.Or, some of us don't think (a) you'recommenting honestly or (b) that
Clearly, Vaj is trying to compensate for the mediocre results of
his Garab Dorje/Norbu program by making false and twisted claims
about the programs which really do work.
--I just outright object on the principle of guru bashing as a bad
practice altogether. Please stop it now. I can
hey Kirk, all the poster said was that the guru's programs produced
mediocre results, as evidenced by the behavior of one of his
followers. hardly guru bashing. and you have let this same
follower shit all over the Maharishi on a regular basis. quit being
a hypocrite and whiner.
--- In
a good friend of mine just began TM and already he has transcended
all of this surface-y stuff that Vaj talks about.
i ask Vaj again- what are you doing here on FFL?
I invited Vaj here about two years ago as I became interested in dzogchen
and I wanted someone here who could support me. I
you think your buddy Vaj is pure as the driven snow, eh? look a
little closer. that's yellow snow, bub.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@...
wrote:
a good friend of mine just began TM and already he has
transcended
all of this surface-y stuff that Vaj talks
Dzogchen? Isn't that a breath mint?
--- On Fri, 2/13/09, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of
Patanjali's 8 limbs )
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
No actually there was clearly a gangbang on Vaj this morning and I find it
somehow shallow. It's especially shallow to utilize any supposed guru or
master to make some tawdry and inconsequential point. The poster cannot know
the results of Norbu or of Garab Dorge as his words show that he felt
No, a dessert topping.
On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Peter wrote:
Dzogchen? Isn't that a breath mint?
a gangbang on Vaj? that's rich. howabout people here are just fed up
with his arrogance and pinning all of his woes on the Maharishi? how
about people calling it like it is.
as for knowledge of the various schools of Buddhism, there are
several here who know and have experienced far more than
i thought it was a dog turd, but whatever, different strokes, right?:)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
No, a dessert topping.
On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Peter wrote:
Dzogchen? Isn't that a breath mint?
On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Kirk wrote:
a good friend of mine just began TM and already he has transcended
all of this surface-y stuff that Vaj talks about.
i ask Vaj again- what are you doing here on FFL?
I invited Vaj here about two years ago as I became interested in
dzogchen
and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
---Yes, Vaj seems to be suffering from some type of mental
aberration, at least in the sense of some engrams from the
past forcing him into this bizarre behavior. I can see people
dissing MMY, TM, etc; a few times, but I
Well, actually it's a dessert topping and a floor polish.
So you're partially correct.
On Feb 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
i thought it was a dog turd, but whatever, different strokes, right?:)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
No, a
I just can't buy into that. I find the idea of actually having a honest
historical picture of various spiritual orgs, whether it be the Catholic
church, Shambhala International, Inc. or the TM Org fascinating because the
truth is stranger than the fiction. At least that's been my experience.
Kirk wrote: when you insult my guru you are inviting me to leave
this place. Again. Cause I won't abide it.
Kirk,
Dude, you know better than most that the trolls are always with us.
Every time you've returned here, my spirit notched into a higher gear.
Cognitively, you've scattered your
Ah! No mind, no mind.
--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of
Patanjali's 8 limbs )
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 10:20 AM
And, you've got some chops, ya know? You can sling the lingo, and
that's a rare treat here. You're not parroting in an empty fashion; I
get the history behind your usage -- you know a lot about the roots of
these mystical concepts. Like Vaj's stuff, your stuff doesn't always
ring my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@...
wrote:
you think your buddy Vaj is pure as the driven snow, eh? look a
little closer. that's yellow snow, bub.
HeHe :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
This was enough fun at FFLife for me for one day.
And I don't even have a
life.
Obviously, we know that already. Otherwise, why would you invite your
religious, fanatic, obsessed and professional brother Vaj to FFL;
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
Clearly, Vaj is trying to compensate for the mediocre results of
his Garab Dorje/Norbu program by making false and twisted claims
about the programs which really do work.
--I just outright object on the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -Hunter S. Thompson
Agreed, and Vaj is a pro Maharishi basher.
Why I do not know. Perhaps it is the success of the TMO from within
the Buddhist monestaries in Thailand that got
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote:
As for many of you others, I don't know you, I only know your words,
and
when you insult my guru you are inviting me to leave this place.
Again.
Cause I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -Hunter S. Thompson
Agreed, and Vaj is a pro Maharishi basher.
Why I do not know. Perhaps it is the
Lil Mahesh isn't offensive to you, however...
L
;-)
--Not really anymore. I just never had the real connection to Maharishi
that others feel. I mean, I just liked the technique. Maharishi made my mind
chase its own tail a bit too much. I don't suppose such things like
On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:23 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
transcend
in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only the mental one, they
never really achieve true silence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:25 PM, sparaig wrote:
Interesting book, but he misquotes teh TM research on TC and claims
that
they only show TC for 15 seconds max, when in fact, the reserach says
15 to 60 seconds max. His
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
transcend
in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only the mental one, they
never really achieve true silence in the yogic sense, just a blank
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote:
so do you honestly think that the majority of people practicing TM
have been duped into practicing a watered down half baked sort of
meditation technique that really doesn't deliver as promised, and
that all of us
On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:38 AM, sparaig wrote:
Unfortunately I'm afraid Dr. Austin was probably under the false
impression that he was in fact seeing good meditation research, when
in fact he was not. It is unfortunate that even reputable scientists
are fooled by TM research claims. Hopefully, as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@...
wrote:
so do you honestly think that the majority of people practicing TM
have been duped into practicing a watered down half baked sort of
meditation technique that really doesn't deliver as promised, and
that all of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_re...@... wrote:
in my own practice, for example, i have found that real guru/God
(dess) devotion has furthered my progress in a way that the basic
knowledge i first gained from the TMO never could.
this devotional learning and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:23 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
transcend
in all of the various
---Very true Nab! Another reason is that in the Dzogzen teachings of
Vaj's Guru, Norbu Rinpoche, (as well as in Mahayana Buddhism as a
whole); there's no ideological distinction between the Void and
relative existence in the same way as in the Brahman concept (i.e.
two aspects of Brahman,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
---Very true Nab! Another reason is that in the Dzogzen teachings
of
Vaj's Guru, Norbu Rinpoche, (as well as in Mahayana Buddhism as a
whole); there's no ideological distinction between the Void and
relative existence in
like emptybill put so well, Vaj is just distracting himself here.
his message is the same one, over and over and over and over and
over again. anyone with a year's or less worth of TM under his or
her belt knows the experiential falsehood of this guy.
a good friend of mine just began TM and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:38 AM, sparaig wrote:
Unfortunately I'm afraid Dr. Austin was probably under the false
impression that he was in fact seeing good meditation research, when
in fact he was not. It is unfortunate that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
IBiological Psychology
Volume 61, Issue 3, November 2002, Pages 293-319
Patterns of EEG coherence, power, and contingent negative variation
characterize the
integration of transcendental and waking states
Travis,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@
wrote:
--- In
mentally and emotionally it is-- he reminds me of a phase i went
through after doing TM for my first 5 or 6 years, where i was
convinced that the world could only be saved by this superior
technique, and everyone who didn't do it was inferior to me.
Despite the incredible strength of this
---Yes, Vaj seems to be suffering from some type of mental
aberration, at least in the sense of some engrams from the
past forcing him into this bizarre behavior. I can see people
dissing MMY, TM, etc; a few times, but I can't fathom why one would
continue with this behavior day after day,
well, as i said i had a pretty fanatical mindset about TM at one
time in my life, although i never made it public and i didn't obsess
about it every day for years on end. Vaj could possibly benefit from
some anti depressants at this point- not that i am a shrink...
i agree with your other
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@...
wrote:
Obsessive? You're the one who posted out (63 in 3 days!) little
lady.
No, the good sister was a victim of the Post
Count mechanism chopping wood and carrying
water for her. It wasn't her fault. You know,
like what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Curtis, what say you to Fred Travis' finding that long-term and short-term
TMers show the same overall physiological changes DURING TM but that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Curtis writes in this, I don't share his (Maharishi's) view
that the silence experienced in meditation is our true nature or our
i am still trying to figure out why on earth i would want a rainbow
body...color me clueless about that- lol.
seriously, to say there are states of evolution beyond enlightenment
again presupposes enlightenment as something finite. it isn't. even
the rainbow body phenomenon if it exists could
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until you
experience pure consciousness
the key is in Curtis's statement about the silence -experienced in
meditation-. by saying this, he indicates that the silence
experienced in meditation does not also pervade activity before and
after meditation, and so the -silence experienced in meditation-
becomes just another relative
On Feb 10, 2009, at 11:40 PM, yifuxero wrote:
Neo-Advaitins typically downplay such progressions. Vaj called the
attainment of a Glorified Rainbow Light Body an epiphenomenon.
No, you misunderstood what I was saying. The remainder, the non-
DNA containing bodily remains, are the
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Curtis writes in this, I don't share his (Maharishi's) view
that the silence experienced
On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@...
wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until
you experience pure consciousness while the mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
When someone only achieves what they were told, what does
that tell you?
That you are a hobby-Buddhist and a fool ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_re...@... wrote:
the key is in Curtis's statement about the silence -experienced in
meditation-. by saying this, he indicates that the silence
experienced in meditation does not also pervade activity before and
after meditation,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@
wrote:
Obsessive? You're the one who posted out (63 in 3 days!) little
lady.
No, the good sister was a victim of the Post
Count mechanism chopping wood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
Do you feel that it is your true nature or real self? Why?
If silence is more consistent than non-silence, how could you NOT
identify it as being more real than non-silence?
Perhaps that kind of consistency is not the only
it is disingenuous to say that the identification with pure
awareness during activity necessitates a belief system. the
explanation of what is going on is necessary to understand it. but i
wouldn't constitute an explanation as a belief system. the awareness
is there whether the explanation is
On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:55 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_re...@... wrote:
the key is in Curtis's statement about the silence -experienced in
meditation-. by saying this, he indicates that the silence
experienced in meditation does not
who said anything about me being enlightened? i haven't. obviously
your years of meditation have not improved your ability to read Vaj.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:55 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_re...@... wrote:
it is disingenuous to say that the identification with pure
awareness during activity necessitates a belief system.
I'm pretty sure you aren't clear about the meaning of disingenuous. I
am being as sincere as you are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@
wrote:
Obsessive? You're the one who posted out (63 in 3 days!) little
lady.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stan...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to
-right Ruth!: -Pure C. needed to appreciate the nature of attachment?
I think not. MMY was attached to $$ all along. Sai Baba is
supposedly attached to little boys.
So I don't get this Neo-Advaitin attachment principle.
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Curtis writes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to argue that you don't know what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Do you feel that it is your true nature or real self? Why?
If silence is more consistent than non-silence, how could you NOT
identify it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In
On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:07 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
I am not talking about an affectation. I am not talking about
imitating. I am talking about who you are and who you can be. You can
cultivate detachment without meditating, it has value and it is not
mere moodmaking. It is you. It is about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Feb 11,
Interesting book, but he misquotes teh TM research on TC and claims that
they only show TC for 15 seconds max, when in fact, the reserach says
15 to 60 seconds max. His discussion then becomes bogus since 60 seconds,
occurring for more than 50% of a meditation period, is not a fleeting
instant.
i have not heard any other explanation for the experience of silence
aka pure consciousness along with activity, from the Maharishi or
anyone else. every time it is addressed, this is the explanation
given. the words used may be different, but regardless of the
spiritual tradition or religion,
Comment below:
**
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Do you feel that it is your true nature or real self? Why?
If silence is more consistent than non-silence, how could
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
IME, meditators get addicted to silent states and calm, thought-free
states, just makes them flat. I suspect this is why many outsiders
experience TM folks as having a flat affect. They don't integrate thought,
they're too
good comment, and insightful conclusion regarding the motivation for
such activity, or lack thereof. putting the dyed cloth in the sun so
to speak is what its all about!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal
l.shad...@... wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Vaj
On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:25 PM, sparaig wrote:
Interesting book, but he misquotes teh TM research on TC and claims
that
they only show TC for 15 seconds max, when in fact, the reserach says
15 to 60 seconds max. His discussion then becomes bogus since 60
seconds,
occurring for more than
On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:08 PM, I am the eternal wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
IME, meditators get addicted to silent states and calm, thought-
free
states, just makes them flat. I suspect this is why many outsiders
experience TM folks as having a
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:08 PM, I am the eternal wrote:
My observation would be, since TM folks aren't taught how to transcend in
all of the various Vedantic bodies, only the mental one, they never
really achieve true silence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
I could fill *pages and pages* with quotes from
Barry's posts fantasizing about how I was stung
by his comments, how they made me so angry I was
out of control, how I was criticizing him
for something because he'd nailed me
so do you honestly think that the majority of people practicing TM
have been duped into practicing a watered down half baked sort of
meditation technique that really doesn't deliver as promised, and
that all of us would be better off shrugging off our brainwashing
and going with the Buddhist
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:04 PM, I am the eternal wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:08 PM, I am the eternal wrote:
My observation would be, since TM folks aren't taught how to
transcend in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
transcend
in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only the mental one, they
never really achieve true silence in the yogic sense, just a blank
thoughtless space and some karmic kundalini. Jnanic shakti seems
sadly
absent.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:10 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
transcend
in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only the mental one, they
never really achieve true silence in the yogic sense, just a blank
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