brilliant spotlight as usual, emptybill! enjoying the inclusive, yet
decisive, commentary-- i can hear his hiss from here-- i wonder if
there is a cobra equivalent for a paper tiger?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Curtis wrote:
When India elects a Sudra as their leader they
can brag too.
There are no 'sudras', Curtis - you're just
perpetuating the myth like you were trained to do.
But in fact, almost all of India's leaders have
been dark-skinned.
You seem to have confused the caste system with
, provided he did
the duty allocated to his community.
--- shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.net wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest and forthright
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:52 AM
Maharishi not only supported the caste system but slavery as well:
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group
On Feb 23, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Curtis wrote:
When India elects a Sudra as their leader they
can brag too.
There are no 'sudras', Curtis - you're just
perpetuating the myth like you were trained to do.
But in fact, almost all of India's leaders have
been
, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest and forthright
On Feb 23, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Curtis wrote:
When India elects a Sudra as their leader they
can brag too.
There are no 'sudras', Curtis - you're just
On Feb 23, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Kirk wrote:
Vaj, that is bullshit. Plain and simple. While workers who worked
to get their programs really worked hard, they sometimes got to
their goal. Before MMY made them all recert. But just because some
suckers got passed over they still had the
Kirk wrote:
Vaj, that is bullshit. Plain and simple...
What would either of you two be knowing anything
about the 'Trung'? I thought Vaj was a 'Nath'
and you were a 'Kadam'. Are you saying that you're
a Trung as well - this doesn't even make any sense.
Apparently the Naths and the Kadams can't
Don't share anyone my feelings. And you comparing them to shudras, is
ludicrous. That's your feeling Bub and don't forget it.
- Original Message -
From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj
On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Kirk wrote:
Don't share anyone my feelings. And you comparing them to shudras,
is ludicrous. That's your feeling Bub and don't forget it.
No, it was their feelings, not mine.
I was not there on staff ever.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:
You all should worship at the lotus feet of Sri Vaj because he is
delightfully
squeezing-out the last of your samskaras and is actually your Sat
Guru.
Have you learned the lessons only of those who admired you, and were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
Don't share anyone my feelings. And you comparing them to shudras, is
ludicrous. That's your feeling Bub and don't forget it.
Gosh Kirk. Did you forget your flute? Like all nagas, when pressed even
slightly, little vaj the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest
--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:
From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest and forthright
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 12:41 AM
From
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:
Someone could put together such
a book just from all the material posted on FFL. And certainly our
combined
experience with him could result in such a book.
Yup! Turq could gather the materials and write it and Judy could
who would pay other people to read it though?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Someone could put together such
a book just from all the material posted on FFL. And certainly our
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Someone could put together such
a book just from all the material posted on FFL. And certainly
our combined experience with him could result in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Wouldn't it be wonderful to have an honest, non-
blissninny biography of Maharishi, told from the
same There were great
for every idea this drunk proposes, there is a ready answer, his own
post 208801: I *am* a bullshit artist...-- Barry Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
wrote:
Someone could put together such
a book just from all the material posted on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
And now a few people are even threatening
reprisals. Nabby's making up smear stories
about people here who dare to speak their
minds.
If anyone is wondering; this is a complete lie. From a very angry and
frustrated
yep, the old guy is going right off the deep end, getting more and
more abusive and hallucinatory with each of his posts today-- really
flipping out! see ya Bar Bar...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Someone could put together such
a book just from all the material posted on FFL. And certainly our
combined
experience with him could result in
Curtis wrote:
(Oops I was one of THEM!)
Are you saying, Curtis, that you taught the 'caste
system' as part of the TM practice? If so, you sucked
as a TM teacher! The so-called caste system has nothing
to do with TM. And the Marshy's religious views have
nothing to do with anything but his
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest and forthright
Wouldn't it be wonderful to have an honest, non-
blissninny biography of Maharishi, told from the
same There were great moments, but there were
also these moments over here that weren't so
great
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willy...@... wrote:
Curtis wrote:
(Oops I was one of THEM!)
Are you saying, Curtis, that you taught the 'caste
system' as part of the TM practice? If so, you sucked
as a TM teacher! The so-called caste system has nothing
to do
So, you're guilty of promoting the Aryan caste
system in the name of TM instruction. If so, you
really sucked as a TM teacher, that's all I'm
saying, Curtis.
Curtis wrote:
When I taught TM I had a 300 member council of
governors breathing down my neck every second.
They made sure I was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@...
wrote:
snip
The Jaimini Sutras never made a whit of sense
reading them straight up. But listening to them
during rest seemed to flip flop my consciousness
to and fro, as they drew me into a thread of logic,
dropped the thread
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willy...@... wrote:
So, you're guilty of promoting the Aryan caste
system in the name of TM instruction. If so, you
really sucked as a TM teacher, that's all I'm
saying, Curtis.
You are being a tiresome dick, Richard.
So, you're guilty of promoting the Aryan caste
system in the name of TM instruction. If so, you
really sucked as a TM teacher, that's all I'm
saying, Curtis.
Curtis wrote:
You are being a tiresome dick, Richard.
Hey, I'm just agreeing with you, Curtis - don't
be so defensive -
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willy...@... wrote:
Curtis wrote:
(Oops I was one of THEM!)
Are you saying, Curtis, that you taught the 'caste
system' as part of the TM practice? If so, you sucked
as a TM teacher! The so-called caste system has nothing
to do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willytex@ wrote:
So, you're guilty of promoting the Aryan caste
system in the name of TM instruction. If so, you
really sucked as a TM teacher,
geezerfreak wrote:
Trying to communicate with him is a
complete waste of your time.
What is it about 'you sucked as a TM
teacher' that you don't understand?
You took a perfectly good yoga relaxation
technique and turned it into the 'cult
of the Marshy', tried to make it into
a 'creation
boo_lives wrote:
Yeah, mmy's religious views have nothing to do
with his translation and commentary on the Gita...
Listen to me 'boo' - the Marshy's religious views
and your actions as a follower of the Marshy cult
have nothing to do with 'TM practice'.
Why are you making this stuff up -
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@...
wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:10 AM, nablusoss1008
no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:
Vaj's posts are a lot closer to hate mail than
the posts that correct his many misstatements.
That's the word; hate mail !
--- On Fri, 2/20/09, I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com wrote:
From: I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest and forthright
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 2:22 AM
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:10
--and will probably drive more hate mail
Vaj's posts are a lot closer to hate mail than
the posts that correct his many misstatements.
That's the word; hate mail !
--Nowblowus, the hate mail is probably due to the nonsequitur one liners
you so lawsonesquely strew about without
Yes, Vaj loves to send hatemail to this group.
-And this is lovemail?
Has anyone else on FFL received unsolicited child porn from Barry?
---Former abuse victimes read alot into art. They have a test called
Rorschach which you and a shrink might find useful.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_re...@... wrote:
exactly. he thinks the 12 of us who have called him on his BS are
upset and hateful towards him. nothing could be further from the
truth. we think he is an arrogant little jerk parading around like
some great
On Feb 20, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Peter wrote:
Tom, don't you think your response here is a tad extreme? Its like
the time you uploaded some (legal) porno to the FFL files and then
registered a complaint regarding it with Yahoo. All of you and Vaj
are having a disagreement because you see Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
Yes, Vaj loves to send hatemail to this group.
-And this is lovemail?
No, it's cultmail.
Nabby is its leading practitioner.
Yes, Vaj loves to send hatemail to this group.
-And this is lovemail?
No, it's cultmail.
Nabby is its leading practitioner.
Nabby is an interesting sort. Not having met her in the flesh I lay no claim
to who she really is. Could be anyone. Might be one of those
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:16 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
Doesn't MMY need to be enlightened under TM theory? How else could
he
rediscover what he claimed were lost mediation techniques?
I think it's understood by most reasonable
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_reply@ wrote:
exactly. he thinks the 12 of us who have called
him on his BS are upset and hateful towards him.
nothing could be further from the truth. we
On Feb 20, 2009, at 12:09 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:16 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
Doesn't MMY need to be enlightened under TM theory? How else
could he
rediscover what he claimed were lost
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Even if it did pan out, it would be a hallmark in Indian
philosophical revisionism, as MMY consistently has tried to tie
older, pre-Vedic writings to the Vedas. This would most likely
appeal to Brahmins, caste system advocates
--- On Fri, 2/20/09, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest and forthright
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 1:06 PM
--- In FairfieldLife
-
From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest and forthright
On Feb 20, 2009, at 12:09 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Even if it did pan out, it would be a hallmark in Indian
philosophical revisionism, as MMY consistently has tried to tie
older, pre-Vedic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
And to
hear apologists for the the caste system in the movement is a real
disgrace to the progressive values of the best thinkers of our
generation. (Oops I was one of THEM!)
My TB friends every once in a
On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Kirk wrote:
Apurushaya Bhashya means 'uncreated commentary'.' It wasn't a text,
and it merely has to do with each mandala having within itself 100
of life fullness with first suktam of each mandala having 100
percent wholeness, then symmertry breaking into
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
And to
hear apologists for the the caste system in the movement is a real
disgrace to the progressive values of the best
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
And to
hear apologists for the the caste system in the movement is a real
disgrace to the progressive values of the best thinkers of our
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
And to
hear apologists for the the caste system
Ginsberg sniffed it out early on. It took most of us
longer.
Maharishi was not cool. Simple as that.
Maharishi was transcendentally cool, very cool indeed that way.
--As a world figure, if the world hadn't coughed up its sleve at that
moment, Maharishi came out with his political
Put it this way: I ain't holdin' my breath for a copy. Although I am still
wondering in Raja Naders book on the Ramayana and human physiology who gets the
anus. You can be sure once if it's ever translated into Hindi some Indian
family's going to be mighty pissed.
---Haha. that was funny.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
And to
hear apologists for the the caste system in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Ginsberg sniffed it out early on. It took most of us longer.
Maharishi was not cool. Simple as that.
I agree completely, mmy was not
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest and forthright
Wouldn't it be wonderful to have an honest, non-
blissninny
On Feb 19, 2009, at 1:57 PM, BillyG. wrote:
No, an actual yogi, as in an practitioner and realizer of yoga-
darshana as opposed to someone without any of the aforementioned, but
nonetheless promotes him or herself as a yogi.
MMY never claimed to be enlightened, if anything he suggested
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
The TM mythos is filled with the tacit implication or even insistence
that MMY was fully enlightened. In fact during his death ceremonies
they kept repeating that he wasn't just enlightened, but the most
enlightened
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
The TM mythos is filled with the tacit implication or even insistence
that MMY was fully enlightened. In fact during his death ceremonies
they kept repeating that he wasn't just enlightened, but the most
enlightened rishi of all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
When someone is given (or in this case takes) a title,
as per the previous description by the Dalai Lama on
the qualifications of a teacher which flipped everyone
out so much,
In fact, as Vaj knows, *nobody* was flipped out
exactly. he thinks the 12 of us who have called him on his BS are
upset and hateful towards him. nothing could be further from the
truth. we think he is an arrogant little jerk parading around like
some great teacher, and trashing the Maharishi and TM in the process.
he is a delusional little
On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:16 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
The TM mythos is filled with the tacit implication or even insistence
that MMY was fully enlightened. In fact during his death ceremonies
they kept repeating that he wasn't
From Vaj via email, as his post apparently didn't go through:
On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:16 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
The TM mythos is filled with the tacit implication or even insistence
that MMY was fully enlightened. In fact
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@...
wrote:
snip
Vaj, I take it that you are saying that MMY is
not a Yogi under the applicable traditions. I
don't think anyone really disputes that.
Nobody disputes that this is what Vaj says, no.
Some of us think it's absurd to
On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:16 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
The TM mythos is filled with the tacit implication or even insistence
that MMY was fully enlightened. In fact during his death ceremonies
they kept repeating that he wasn't
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj the honest and forthright
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 7:57 PM
exactly. he thinks the 12 of us who have called him on his
BS are
upset and hateful towards him. nothing could be further
from the
truth. we think he is an arrogant little jerk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
snip
When someone is given (or in this case takes) a title,
as per the previous description by the Dalai Lama on
the qualifications of a teacher which flipped
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@...
wrote:
exactly. he thinks the 12 of us who have called him on his BS are
upset and hateful towards him. nothing could be further from the
truth. we think he is an arrogant little jerk parading around like
some great
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:10 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:
Vaj's posts are a lot closer to hate mail than
the posts that correct his many misstatements.
That's the word; hate mail !
Actually, I received a nice, friendly email from Vaj a couple of days ago.
Of course he
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