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THANKS Lsoma, for asking those to stick to the title or thread of the emails. MY thanks that of 6 of my lurking friends as well. Especially to the attention of Vaj.
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Your prediction about me will be wrong. :Let me tell you what will happen to me in Fairfield. I will buy a home. Wait for the passing over of MMY. Pay my respects to MMY and live in Fairfield for about two years. I will most likely marry a woman from India who I will meet in Fairfield who can calm my Italian nature down. When MMY passes over he will advance to the third level of the fifth dimension The big difference between MMY and me is that I am more open minded regarding the feelings of others and do not feel that one has to study all the volumes of the Vedas or memorize all of Patanjali's sutras in order to be considered a valuable teacher. The judgements that many into eastern philosophy are based on a Guru disciple relationship that was a part of the dark age. There are hundreds of volunteers from the fifth dimension in Fairfield, IA. I think most of the people in Fairfield will enjoy me. I have friends on the MUM campus who I've worked with and many TM teachers who always commented that I am a very dedicated soul to my TM practice. I collected many pictures of MMY when I lived at TM centers and even though I bitch about the TMO I love the knowledge that MMY has to offer to the world. It is unfortunate that MMY had to be so attached to Guru Dev and turn the Holy Tradition into a religion. It is a big stumbling block in presenting the knowledge to the public. Just look in the eastern philosophy section of Barnes and Noble and you will see many books on the Dalai Lama. Why? Because he told everyone from the beginning that he was part of a religion and made his knowledge available to the public at low cost. MMY is such a great teacher and has only done disservice to himself by not learning from other teachers who are better examples of infinite flexibility. The Vedic tradition remains unpopular because it only fits the pocket book of the intellectually refined. This does not allow everyone to participate. So life goes on. I'm not trying to be a problem for Fairfield but many of you do have a problem with writing around a topic heading. You are easily drawn to jumping on the pointing the finger crowd. I've been writing for years and I can't believe the response sometimes from the FFL column. You want to take a couple of lines I write out of hundreds of words and twist it into some less than positive scenario. I am fully aware that not everyone in Fairfield is a regular contributor of the FFL in Fairfield Iowa. Many people are not wanting to join in because most of it is about the next conspiracy or lie that hasn't been talked about yet or has already had its time. Many are pissed off at the TMO for throwing them out of the dome. They should be. Many have found other Guru's to follow to continue where MMY left off. I think I will enjoy living in Fairfield. But it does have its challenges for me. They don't value you as a teacher unless you have studied volumes of the Veda and are from India with long hair. I love SSRS quote from a video: The question to him is What is enlightenment? His reply was -Enlightenment is a big joke. That is the best explanation of enlightenment I have heard from any teacher. Who cares about enlightenment. I just want to live in a world where people are less critical and more open minded in believing that life can be easy and less dependent on outside structures to fulfill our desires. That time is coming soon and I am proud to serve the universe in my own expression as a volunteer from the fourth level of the sixth dimension with my spiritual families that i miss so much. I've become so tired of the lack of faith of people on this planet that life will always be the same and nothing will change for the better. The way man keeps repeating the same mistakes in politics and other areas of life. But mostly the way humans firmly believe that they cannot change the way life has been structured for them. They can't comprehend how controlled they are by the International Banking System and how they have the power to choose the life they want. After all the years of learning and teaching, I feel very strongly that the only way humanity will change is from a more advanced race through a massive intervention. I know it sounds like wishful thinking to some but it has been with me for years. People are not strong enough and lack spiritual courage to really make the difference that is needed. Money has enslaved the souls of many. I was sitting next to a friend of a director for the department for the development of cons who tuned me down to fly in the dome. He said If you want to fly in the dome then make a large financial contribution to the movement: My reply- I have already given enough service to MMY. The mind set of the intellectually refined and wealthy in MMYO are in for a huge fallout when they come to realize that all that they have invested
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your prediction about me will be wrong. :Let me tell you what will happen to me in Fairfield. I will buy a home. Wait for the passing over of MMY. Pay my respects to MMY and live in Fairfield for about two years. I will most likely marry a woman from India who I will meet in Fairfield who can calm my Italian nature down. When MMY passes over he will advance to the third level of the fifth dimension About this same time, most likely monkeys will fly out of my butt. :-) The big difference between MMY and me is that I am more open minded regarding the feelings of others and do not feel that one has to study all the volumes of the Vedas or memorize all of Patanjali's sutras in order to be considered a valuable teacher. The big difference between MMY and you is that many *consider* him to be a valuable teacher. That, and he doesn't talk about flying saucers and beings from other dimensions as much. There may be a relationship between the second difference and the first. :-)
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I think you'll be awesome there and have loads of friends. Congratulations!!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? Your prediction about me will be wrong. :Let me tell you what will happen to me in Fairfield. I will buy a home. Wait for the passing over of MMY. Pay my respects to MMY and live in Fairfield for about two years. I will most likely marry a woman from India who I will meet in Fairfield who can calm my Italian nature down. When MMY passes over he will advance to the third level of the fifth dimension The big difference between MMY and me is that I am more open minded regarding the feelings of others and do not feel that one has to study all the volumes of the Vedas or memorize all of Patanjali's sutras in order to be considered a valuable teacher. The judgements that many into eastern philosophy are based on a Guru disciple relationship that was a part of the dark age. There are hundreds of volunteers from the fifth dimension in Fairfield, IA. I think most of the people in Fairfield will enjoy me. I have friends on the MUM campus who I've worked with and many TM teachers who always commented that I am a very dedicated soul to my TM practice. I collected many pictures of MMY when I lived at TM centers and even though I bitch about the TMO I love the knowledge that MMY has to offer to the world. It is unfortunate that MMY had to be so attached to Guru Dev and turn the Holy Tradition into a religion. It is a big stumbling block in presenting the knowledge to the public. Just look in the eastern philosophy section of Barnes and Noble and you will see many books on the Dalai Lama. Why? Because he told everyone from the beginning that he was part of a religion and made his knowledge available to the public at low cost. MMY is such a great teacher and has only done disservice to himself by not learning from other teachers who are better examples of infinite flexibility. The Vedic tradition remains unpopular because it only fits the pocket book of the intellectually refined. This does not allow everyone to participate. So life goes on. I'm not trying to be a problem for Fairfield but many of you do have a problem with writing around a topic heading. You are easily drawn to jumping on the pointing the finger crowd. I've been writing for years and I can't believe the response sometimes from the FFL column. You want to take a couple of lines I write out of hundreds of words and twist it into some less than positive scenario. I am fully aware that not everyone in Fairfield is a regular contributor of the FFL in Fairfield Iowa. Many people are not wanting to join in because most of it is about the next conspiracy or lie that hasn't been talked about yet or has already had its time. Many are pissed off at the TMO for throwing them out of the dome. They should be. Many have found other Guru's to follow to continue where MMY left off. I think I will enjoy living in Fairfield. But it does have its challenges for me. They don't value you as a teacher unless you have studied volumes of the Veda and are from India with long hair. I love SSRS quote from a video: The question to him is What is enlightenment? His reply was -Enlightenment is a big joke. That is the best explanation of enlightenment I have heard from any teacher. Who cares about enlightenment. I just want to live in a world where people are less critical and more open minded in believing that life can be easy and less dependent on outside structures to fulfill our desires. That time is coming soon and I am proud to serve the universe in my own expression as a volunteer from the fourth level of the sixth dimension with my spiritual families that i miss so much. I've become so tired of the lack of faith of people on this planet that life will always be the same and nothing will change for the better. The way man keeps repeating the same mistakes in politics and other areas of life. But mostly the way humans firmly believe that they cannot change the way life has been structured for them. They can't comprehend how controlled they are by the International Banking System and how they have the power to choose the life they want. After all the years of learning and teaching, I feel very strongly that the only way humanity will change is from a more advanced race through a massive intervention. I know it sounds like wishful thinking to some but it has been with me for years. People are not strong enough and lack spiritual courage to really make the difference that is needed. Money has enslaved the souls of many. I was sitting next to a friend of a director for the department for the development of cons who tuned me down to fly in the dome. He said If you want to fly in the dome then make a
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Thank you. Hope to meet you personally when I move to Fairfield. Love and Light. Lou Valentino
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I live in New Orleans. But I went to FF after Katrina at Rick's behest and may yet do so again someday. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? Thank you. Hope to meet you personally when I move to Fairfield. Love and Light. Lou Valentino
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Please let me know if your in town. I feel for the people of New Orleans. All of the talk of Iraq and even Iran. All the money spent. Lives lost. Most of the money should have been spent on rebuilding our own country. We don't even hear anything about New Orleans and the surrounding areas. I know John Edwards started his campaign around this issue. If he continues to tell the truth I will vote for him. Lou Valentino
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New Orleans will become the rally cry for a New America, mark my word, and it will become the first floating whore of a city in the nation and a real fun place to live like Amsterdam but on wheels. I have pujas and yajnas done on behalf of New Orleans so people who move here get that grace just by being here. Especially Kurukulle and Garuda energy. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? Please let me know if your in town. I feel for the people of New Orleans. All of the talk of Iraq and even Iran. All the money spent. Lives lost. Most of the money should have been spent on rebuilding our own country. We don't even hear anything about New Orleans and the surrounding areas. I know John Edwards started his campaign around this issue. If he continues to tell the truth I will vote for him. Lou Valentino
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Orleans will become the rally cry for a New America, mark my word, and it will become the first floating whore of a city in the nation and a real fun place to live like Amsterdam but on wheels. I have pujas and yajnas done on behalf of New Orleans so people who move here get that grace just by being here. Especially Kurukulle and Garuda energy. Cool. Nice intent.
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Sounds great. Keep up the many blessings you are providing for New Orleans and the surrounding areas. Lou.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TALK AROUND THE TOPIC. TALKD AROUND THE TOPIC. TALK AROUND THE TOPIC. Now I know why Maharishi has had such a hard time talking to his audience directly. Same reason you do. He's expecting them to treat his words as cosmic pronouncements, go Woo! That's kosmic, dude, and treat the speaker with a kind of reverent awe, doing exactly what he says to do and thinking exactly what he wants them to think. Get over that thing, become willing to *listen* to the responses (or the resounding silence) when you make your pronouncements, and you might find a better response to the things you say. As it is now, there's far too much me in the me*ssage.
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TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The topic listed was for what Fairfield Iowa would look like by the end of 2007. The fascination around Sai Baba is the only thing people are commenting about. I don't give a shit about what your opinion is regarding Sai Baba's miracles or sexual behavior. If you can't even talk around the title of a topic then go back to grade school and learn how to. Lsoma. I know that Lou's the pro at this prediction business, but here's one of mine about him: I see Lou lasting less than three months in Fairfield. He'll try running this same ego number on everyone there, they'll laugh at him or ignore him, and he'll throw a hissy fit and leave.] I still don't understand if he thinks he's found something better why he even wants to go there. There are much more open minded spiritual communities in the US. Years ago I attended a symposium of western and eastern astrologers. The western astrologers outnumbered the jyotish crowd but the western folks it was all about marketing and ego. They reminded me of a bunch of Amway distributors. :)
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The problem I am having is when people don't read what I'm writing. People who respond with an attitude of Lou is not listening because he is so full of himself have not even commented around the topics I write about. I thought the audience would be intelligent enough to have an open conversation around a topic. The kind of comments I get are so off base. You want to speak to me directly then call me. My phone number is on my website _Astrological Varieties_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/) . Saying why doesn't he find another spiritual community to live in. You miss the point of my love for Maharishi. I've already tried other communities. There too busy perfecting communication skills with angels and everything else under the sun. When I visited Fairfield recently I met many people who loved talking with me. The young man who waited on me at the Indian Cafe. Friends from MAPI at the MUM dinning hall, Tony at 21st Century bookstore, the wonderful and warm welcome from the SSRS group kriya session and the warm response from the Ghandarva Veda musicians who played on Sunday night. OK, I didn't get the warmest response from the dept. for the development of cons, but I was happy doing my program in the hallway of the men's dome. I am contributing to world peace by meditating with a large group. That is the most important thing to me. The world is a war. I believe in the ME 1,000 percent. All of the judgments that come from many people on this forum show me that maybe you should leave Fairfield Iowa. If you can't recognize that MMY is the one who started all of this in the first place then you should live in another community and move on to something better. Love and Light. Lou Valentino
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There is no one person who started anything, Maharishi or otherwise, lest it's something Like Guru Datta or Samanthabhadra, who may have been said to stopper the lineage of all gurus at the top. At any rate, all this life is not created. It has never risen from the unmanifest even for a moment. This is the truth. Noone has created anything, and nothing has been created. All form is noted peripherally as it comes from the formless and returns to it. Not created by anyone, not harmed by anyone, not realized by anyone better than anyone else. If you get this then your mind and body will become as a lozenge placed into the mouth of the timeless dharmadhatu. Okay. Have a great fucking day everyone while I am working another fucking double shift. Check out my website at www.flamingtorchnola.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? The problem I am having is when people don't read what I'm writing. People who respond with an attitude of Lou is not listening because he is so full of himself have not even commented around the topics I write about. I thought the audience would be intelligent enough to have an open conversation around a topic. The kind of comments I get are so off base. You want to speak to me directly then call me. My phone number is on my website Astrological Varieties. Saying why doesn't he find another spiritual community to live in. You miss the point of my love for Maharishi. I've already tried other communities. There too busy perfecting communication skills with angels and everything else under the sun. When I visited Fairfield recently I met many people who loved talking with me. The young man who waited on me at the Indian Cafe. Friends from MAPI at the MUM dinning hall, Tony at 21st Century bookstore, the wonderful and warm welcome from the SSRS group kriya session and the warm response from the Ghandarva Veda musicians who played on Sunday night. OK, I didn't get the warmest response from the dept. for the development of cons, but I was happy doing my program in the hallway of the men's dome. I am contributing to world peace by meditating with a large group. That is the most important thing to me. The world is a war. I believe in the ME 1,000 percent. All of the judgments that come from many people on this forum show me that maybe you should leave Fairfield Iowa. If you can't recognize that MMY is the one who started all of this in the first place then you should live in another community and move on to something better. Love and Light. Lou Valentino
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem I am having is when people don't read what I'm writing. People who respond with an attitude of Lou is not listening because he is so full of himself have not even commented around the topics I write about. I thought the audience would be intelligent enough to have an open conversation around a topic. The kind of comments I get are so off base. You want to speak to me directly then call me. My phone number is on my website _Astrological Varieties_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/) . Saying why doesn't he find another spiritual community to live in. You miss the point of my love for Maharishi. I've already tried other communities. There too busy perfecting communication skills with angels and everything else under the sun. When I visited Fairfield recently I met many people who loved talking with me. The young man who waited on me at the Indian Cafe. Friends from MAPI at the MUM dinning hall, Tony at 21st Century bookstore, the wonderful and warm welcome from the SSRS group kriya session and the warm response from the Ghandarva Veda musicians who played on Sunday night. OK, I didn't get the warmest response from the dept. for the development of cons, but I was happy doing my program in the hallway of the men's dome. I am contributing to world peace by meditating with a large group. That is the most important thing to me. The world is a war. I believe in the ME 1,000 percent. All of the judgments that come from many people on this forum show me that maybe you should leave Fairfield Iowa. If you can't recognize that MMY is the one who started all of this in the first place then you should live in another community and move on to something better. Love and Light. Lou Valentino Lou, most of the people in this forum don't live in Fairfield...maybe they should! Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367
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On Jan 27, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Peter wrote: All of the judgments that come from many people on this forum show me that maybe you should leave Fairfield Iowa. If you can't recognize that MMY is the one who started all of this in the first place then you should live in another community and move on to something better. Love and Light. Lou Valentino Lou, most of the people in this forum don't live in Fairfield...maybe they should! Exactly, Pete. Most of the people here moved on long ago...unlike some of the spiritual midgets who stayed here and can't seem to break the habit! Sal, longtime FF resident
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Thank you for letting me know most of the people don't live in Fairfield who are on FFL. It gives me more clarity to some of the reactions to my topics. Lou.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Peter wrote: All of the judgments that come from many people on this forum show me that maybe you should leave Fairfield Iowa. If you can't recognize that MMY is the one who started all of this in the first place then you should live in another community and move on to something better. Love and Light. Lou Valentino Lou, most of the people in this forum don't live in Fairfield...maybe they should! Exactly, Pete. Most of the people here moved on long ago... unlike some of the spiritual midgets who stayed here and can't seem to break the habit! I think the feeling level of Fairfield has improved greatly with the spiritual eclecticism that has grown and evolved over the years. That's not to say that the TMers don't add to the sweet atmosphere. It's just that a lot of people's spiritual needs are clearly not being met by adhering to a strict TM-only paradigm. Some have left TM behind, and others have stuck with it but added other spiritual activities outside their TM practice. The end result, however, is the Fairfield community having more spiritually fulfilled people. As for Lou, I can understand the anguish that comes through in his posts. At heart, he's still a TM TB, but the TMO has shunned him as being impure and not worthy of participating in TMO activities. I imagine that's a painful situation to be in, and it will probably take some time before he settles into a more balanced view of his situation and the Fairfield community as a whole.
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On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: I think the feeling level of Fairfield has improved greatly with the spiritual eclecticism that has grown and evolved over the years. That's not to say that the TMers don't add to the sweet atmosphere. It's just that a lot of people's spiritual needs are clearly not being met by adhering to a strict TM-only paradigm. Some have left TM behind, and others have stuck with it but added other spiritual activities outside their TM practice. The end result, however, is the Fairfield community having more spiritually fulfilled people. My take is obviously biased, but from my POV the few hard-core TMers still here seem to live only to make life more difficult, both for themselves and for anyone else in the town, at least whenever possible. All the nonsense about train whistles, south entrances, encouraging everyone to move to VC, skimming $$ off of the school tuition, etc, all have as a common theme attempting to put the needs of a favored few above anyone else's, and to heck with common sense, or even laws. Instead of trying to add to the nice atmosphere, they try to create isolation and use magical thinking as a substitute for any creative or lasting solutions. Since there's no way they can stop the onslaught of spirituality that's come here, they simply pretend it doesn't exist. At least they're not taking down license plate #s or calling up employers anymore. Wouldn't be much point to that since most everyone's been banned anyway. Sal
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: I think the feeling level of Fairfield has improved greatly with the spiritual eclecticism that has grown and evolved over the years. That's not to say that the TMers don't add to the sweet atmosphere. It's just that a lot of people's spiritual needs are clearly not being met by adhering to a strict TM-only paradigm. Some have left TM behind, and others have stuck with it but added other spiritual activities outside their TM practice. The end result, however, is the Fairfield community having more spiritually fulfilled people. My take is obviously biased, but from my POV the few hard-core TMers still here seem to live only to make life more difficult, both for themselves and for anyone else in the town, at least whenever possible. All the nonsense about train whistles, south entrances, encouraging everyone to move to VC, skimming $$ off of the school tuition, etc, all have as a common theme attempting to put the needs of a favored few above anyone else's, I agree with you, except for the train whistles point. That's an inconvenience to many, and especially to the financially disadvantaged, who tend to live nearer the tracks. It would enhance the quality of life in the town to silence those whistles.
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Alex Stanely is right on about me. Lou Valentino
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On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I agree with you, except for the train whistles point. That’s an inconvenience to many, and especially to the financially disadvantaged, who tend to live nearer the tracks. It would enhance the quality of life in the town to silence those whistles. Rick, that's misleading. The *only* people pushing it are hard-core TMers, everybody else is fine with it, including long-time home owners living right next to the tracks. It's no better or worse than whistles anywhere else in the US. There's nothing inherent about FF that makes the whistles louder. Masquerading as somehow protecting the poor, when the TMO has a history of caring less about anyone not wealthy, is really dishonest. Anyone of those TMers pushing this knew when they bought their houses that they were near the tracks. And they could easily move. A few years ago when this came up, at least one of the city council members went to a lot of trouble to get information (a lot more trouble than anyone who was pushing it, as far as I knew) and they were given a very thorough and fair hearing from the Council who then voted. It was determined that the huge inconvenience and expense to nearly the entire town, including many closed streets that everyone uses, would not be worth whatever the benefit in noise reduction might be. I'm sure you remember that. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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-Original Message- From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I agree with you, except for the train whistles point. That's an inconvenience to many, and especially to the financially disadvantaged, who tend to live nearer the tracks. It would enhance the quality of life in the town to silence those whistles. Rick, that's misleading. The *only* people pushing it are hard-core TMers, I'm not pushing it, but I'm in favor of it. I'm not a hard-core TMer, as you know. everybody else is fine with it, including long-time home owners living right next to the tracks. I know people who live near the tracks who aren't fine with it, so everybody is too absolute a term. It's no better or worse than whistles anywhere else in the US. There's nothing inherent about FF that makes the whistles louder. True, but many communities have installed the equipment to eliminate the whistles. They must have had their reasons, and from what I've read, they were happy with the decision. Masquerading as somehow protecting the poor, when the TMO has a history of caring less about anyone not wealthy, is really dishonest. Anyone of those TMers pushing this knew when they bought their houses that they were near the tracks. And they could easily move. For me it's not a TM issue. If TMers are pushing it, that's coincidental. Or maybe they're fussy. I don't care. Train whistles are not a life or death issue for me. I just think that silencing them would be one more thing which would enhance the quality of life here. Of course, if we wait long enough and alternative energies really take off, so that we stop burning coal, there will be very few trains coming through, so the issue will be moot. A few years ago when this came up, at least one of the city council members went to a lot of trouble to get information (a lot more trouble than anyone who was pushing it, as far as I knew) and they were given a very thorough and fair hearing from the Council who then voted. It was determined that the huge inconvenience and expense to nearly the entire town, including many closed streets that everyone uses, would not be worth whatever the benefit in noise reduction might be. I'm sure you remember that. I do, but from what I understand of the current effort, the expense wouldn't be that great. Bill Blackmore is coming up with some clever ideas for covering it. And only one or two seldom-used streets would be closed.
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I moved on and am still a spiritual midget, plus my cock is under six inches, but I have a glib tongue. Sometimes that's better than being evolved or having a phat dick. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? On Jan 27, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Peter wrote: All of the judgments that come from many people on this forum show me that maybe you should leave Fairfield Iowa. If you can't recognize that MMY is the one who started all of this in the first place then you should live in another community and move on to something better. Love and Light. Lou Valentino Lou, most of the people in this forum don't live in Fairfield...maybe they should! Exactly, Pete. Most of the people here moved on long ago...unlike some of the spiritual midgets who stayed here and can't seem to break the habit! Sal, longtime FF resident To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
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There almost should be a rule that people of this group should have at least been there or have FF in the heart, and don't just come in here like a fucking circus tour. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? Thank you for letting me know most of the people don't live in Fairfield who are on FFL. It gives me more clarity to some of the reactions to my topics. Lou.
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Potty mouth! You must be in BC! --- llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I moved on and am still a spiritual midget, plus my cock is under six inches, but I have a glib tongue. Sometimes that's better than being evolved or having a phat dick. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? On Jan 27, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Peter wrote: All of the judgments that come from many people on this forum show me that maybe you should leave Fairfield Iowa. If you can't recognize that MMY is the one who started all of this in the first place then you should live in another community and move on to something better. Love and Light. Lou Valentino Lou, most of the people in this forum don't live in Fairfield...maybe they should! Exactly, Pete. Most of the people here moved on long ago...unlike some of the spiritual midgets who stayed here and can't seem to break the habit! Sal, longtime FF resident To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I moved on and am still a spiritual midget, plus my cock is under six inches, but I have a glib tongue. Sometimes that's better than being evolved or having a phat dick. Or rather perhaps you just think abusive language makes up for your puny member. OffWorld - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? On Jan 27, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Peter wrote: All of the judgments that come from many people on this forum show me that maybe you should leave Fairfield Iowa. If you can't recognize that MMY is the one who started all of this in the first place then you should live in another community and move on to something better. Love and Light. Lou Valentino Lou, most of the people in this forum don't live in Fairfield...maybe they should! Exactly, Pete. Most of the people here moved on long ago...unlike some of the spiritual midgets who stayed here and can't seem to break the habit! Sal, longtime FF resident To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Potty mouth! You must be in BC! Being in BC? Another sheath or prison. Or possession (house) to endure? --- llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I moved on and am still a spiritual midget, plus my cock is under six inches, but I have a glib tongue. Sometimes that's better than being evolved or having a phat dick.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? Did I mention his bad hair? That is irrefutable proof of his lack of enlightenment. Enlightened guys can keep their fro flat and silky even in a humid climate. This is a fact. He's a Hendrix wannabe.
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don't just come in here like a fucking circus tour. At this point in my life, everything is a fucking circus tour. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There almost should be a rule that people of this group should have at least been there or have FF in the heart, and don't just come in here like a fucking circus tour. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? Thank you for letting me know most of the people don't live in Fairfield who are on FFL. It gives me more clarity to some of the reactions to my topics. Lou.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The topic listed was for what Fairfield Iowa would look like by the end of 2007. The fascination around Sai Baba is the only thing people are commenting about. I don't give a shit about what your opinion is regarding Sai Baba's miracles or sexual behavior. If you can't even talk around the title of a topic then go back to grade school and learn how to. Lsoma. I know that Lou's the pro at this prediction business, but here's one of mine about him: I see Lou lasting less than three months in Fairfield. He'll try running this same ego number on everyone there, they'll laugh at him or ignore him, and he'll throw a hissy fit and leave.
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TALK AROUND THE TOPIC. TALKD AROUND THE TOPIC. TALK AROUND THE TOPIC. Now I know why Maharishi has had such a hard time talking to his audience directly. Make sure eveyone is meditating everyday in groups to create the ME. Everything else is superficial at best and a waste of time while the world is blowing itself up. Put your attention on peace so that others can grow from it. Lsoma.
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Your hissy fits are so much more entertaining when I imagine them in Richard Simmons' voice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TALK AROUND THE TOPIC. TALKD AROUND THE TOPIC. TALK AROUND THE TOPIC. Now I know why Maharishi has had such a hard time talking to his audience directly. Make sure eveyone is meditating everyday in groups to create the ME. Everything else is superficial at best and a waste of time while the world is blowing itself up. Put your attention on peace so that others can grow from it. Lsoma.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if Sai Baba pulls the whole Michael Jackson beat it routine with kids, but I do know that he is a shitty magician. I've seen the tapes of his versions of tricks that I learned when I was 10 years old. I saw his fumbling version of the steal the Vibhuti from the napkin while pretending to wipe your hands trick. I've seen the same double sided vase that I got for my birthday as a kid, used to amaze his gullible followers. I've seen him palm amulets and produce them on film as if he pulled them out of his cosmic ass. You are letting him get away with a magic act that would not cut it in a 4th grade talent show. Yes I've seen the slow motion videos exposing SB faking his manifestations and have heard accounts from insiders of how SB keeps a big closet full of trinkets that later get manifested. I've also been told that SB did practice various occult techniques as a youngster that gave him some sidhis and some of his magic acts are real, but he doesn't always have the juice flowing so he also fakes in order to keep his followers amazed. The real problem here is that followers would actually think his tricks, real or fake, are indicative of spiritual enlightenment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. The info on Sai Baba being a pedophile is now overwhelming, not from scandalous websites but mainly from former leaders of his org., many of whom had children sodomized and verified by doctors. These were people who did not want to believe the truth about Sai Baba but couldn't ignore the evidence after much agonizing. Do some common sense research on this rather than listening to channelers. Spiritual people look the other way when children are being molested? The world is a bad place because people show some discrimination as to who is and who isn't a true spiritual teacher? I had a very open mind about this issue when I first came across it, but I can't find any supporter of Sai Baba who's making any reasonable argument, just the above spiritual jive talk. Walking around in robes talking about God and periodically displaying some sidhis due to a grossly inbalanced kundalini process doesn't provide any kind of cover for grossly dark behavior.
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Nice point on the Sam Harris thread. As far as Sai goes, if he gets to take the fall back position, when exposed as a charlatan, that he used to do real magic before he got caught faking it, I think Carl Rove must be moonlighting on spinthisgurusbs.com I have a simpler explanation. And if Uncle Ernie gets caught, just once, with his hand up my niece's skirt, he loses his seat at the Thanksgiving table forever. Sai is like one of those burned out kiddie magicians after their third divorce. He doesn't even bother with any misdirection because he has contempt for his audience. Spend five minutes in Barnes and Noble with the classic: Magic for Beginners, Amaze Your Friends and you will see the the right way to do his whole routine. Did I mention his bad hair? That is irrefutable proof of his lack of enlightenment. Enlightened guys can keep their fro flat and silky even in a humid climate. This is a fact. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I don't know if Sai Baba pulls the whole Michael Jackson beat it routine with kids, but I do know that he is a shitty magician. I've seen the tapes of his versions of tricks that I learned when I was 10 years old. I saw his fumbling version of the steal the Vibhuti from the napkin while pretending to wipe your hands trick. I've seen the same double sided vase that I got for my birthday as a kid, used to amaze his gullible followers. I've seen him palm amulets and produce them on film as if he pulled them out of his cosmic ass. You are letting him get away with a magic act that would not cut it in a 4th grade talent show. Yes I've seen the slow motion videos exposing SB faking his manifestations and have heard accounts from insiders of how SB keeps a big closet full of trinkets that later get manifested. I've also been told that SB did practice various occult techniques as a youngster that gave him some sidhis and some of his magic acts are real, but he doesn't always have the juice flowing so he also fakes in order to keep his followers amazed. The real problem here is that followers would actually think his tricks, real or fake, are indicative of spiritual enlightenment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. The info on Sai Baba being a pedophile is now overwhelming, not from scandalous websites but mainly from former leaders of his org., many of whom had children sodomized and verified by doctors. These were people who did not want to believe the truth about Sai Baba but couldn't ignore the evidence after much agonizing. Do some common sense research on this rather than listening to channelers. Spiritual people look the other way when children are being molested? The world is a bad place because people show some discrimination as to who is and who isn't a true spiritual teacher? I had a very open mind about this issue when I first came across it, but I can't find any supporter of Sai Baba who's making any reasonable argument, just the above spiritual jive talk. Walking around in robes talking about God and periodically displaying some sidhis due to a grossly inbalanced kundalini process doesn't provide any kind of cover for grossly dark behavior.
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The topic listed was for what Fairfield Iowa would look like by the end of 2007. The fascination around Sai Baba is the only thing people are commenting about. I don't give a shit about what your opinion is regarding Sai Baba's miracles or sexual behavior. If you can't even talk around the title of a topic then go back to grade school and learn how to. Lsoma.
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I had a long conversation with Sai Baba's former English translator, an American, many years ago, and he told me then that Baba was a fake. That the ash, trinkets were stored in a warehouse, and that Baba had no power. He uses sleigth of hand. He certainly has no teaching. I've been to one of his ashrams, and they've got nothing, just vague Hindu mumbo jumbo that I'm not sure even they understand. It's nowhere. Frank --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I don't know if Sai Baba pulls the whole Michael Jackson beat it routine with kids, but I do know that he is a shitty magician. I've seen the tapes of his versions of tricks that I learned when I was 10 years old. I saw his fumbling version of the steal the Vibhuti from the napkin while pretending to wipe your hands trick. I've seen the same double sided vase that I got for my birthday as a kid, used to amaze his gullible followers. I've seen him palm amulets and produce them on film as if he pulled them out of his cosmic ass. You are letting him get away with a magic act that would not cut it in a 4th grade talent show. Yes I've seen the slow motion videos exposing SB faking his manifestations and have heard accounts from insiders of how SB keeps a big closet full of trinkets that later get manifested. I've also been told that SB did practice various occult techniques as a youngster that gave him some sidhis and some of his magic acts are real, but he doesn't always have the juice flowing so he also fakes in order to keep his followers amazed. The real problem here is that followers would actually think his tricks, real or fake, are indicative of spiritual enlightenment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say- Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. The info on Sai Baba being a pedophile is now overwhelming, not from scandalous websites but mainly from former leaders of his org., many of whom had children sodomized and verified by doctors. These were people who did not want to believe the truth about Sai Baba but couldn't ignore the evidence after much agonizing. Do some common sense research on this rather than listening to channelers. Spiritual people look the other way when children are being molested? The world is a bad place because people show some discrimination as to who is and who isn't a true spiritual teacher? I had a very open mind about this issue when I first came across it, but I can't find any supporter of Sai Baba who's making any reasonable argument, just the above spiritual jive talk. Walking around in robes talking about God and periodically displaying some sidhis due to a grossly inbalanced kundalini process doesn't provide any kind of cover for grossly dark behavior.
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See you in grade school. Your own post on this heading: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The topic listed was for what Fairfield Iowa would look like by the end of 2007. The fascination around Sai Baba is the only thing people are commenting about. I don't give a shit about what your opinion is regarding Sai Baba's miracles or sexual behavior. If you can't even talk around the title of a topic then go back to grade school and learn how to. Lsoma.
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At the end of 2007 Fairfield will look just like it does now except it will be a little different. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The topic listed was for what Fairfield Iowa would look like by the end of 2007. The fascination around Sai Baba is the only thing people are commenting about. I don't give a shit about what your opinion is regarding Sai Baba's miracles or sexual behavior. If you can't even talk around the title of a topic then go back to grade school and learn how to. Lsoma. Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
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Indeed, time will tell if its destined to be or a house of cards --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a dome in Fairfield, Iowa. I don't understand some of the reaction from the original comments I made regarding dome policies. Doing the ME in Fairfield Iowa is the issue not Iraq. If you have no faith left in what Maharishi is doing or has done than just move on. It is no wonder that the TMO gets away with silly guidelines that are fundamentalist in nature. They have a Fairfield community that doesn't know how to organize at the grass roots level to make a statement to the TMO about how their policies are hurting the world. Instead people get on the FFL forum and become isolated opinion minds who would rather spend their time criticizing people like myself who are offering other ways to change the situation. And if the situation cannot be changed then an alternative approach would be more creative that accomplishes the goal that Maharishi wanted. We have huge problems on this planet. Spiritual organizations that don't know how to work together with most of the leaders from India and spiritual communities that have given up on creative solutions that would continue the process of human evolution to build self-empowerment. Start looking at yourselves as the new leaders of the world. And get ready for Maharishi not being around anymore by the end of this summer. Both the Fairfield community and the TMO will be going through a basti. With all of the shit that is backed up in the fundamentalist digestive system of the TMO and all of the waste that is floating around in the Fairfield community, the outcome will need some direction or it could destroy everything Maharishi worked for. Fairfield will either prosper to a different level or it will become a ghost town after Maharishi's departure. How do you want Fairfield Iowa to look or operate after Maharishi's death? You can continue to judge him or take what he has taught us and use our creative intelligence to create a world filled with love and joy. A wonderful opportunity is upon us. Choices will be made. People will be saying all kinds of things. Leaders for Maharishi will be fighting over who is the true owner of the piece of golden pie that the organization has created for itself. You may ask -well Lou what are you going to do about it? I will be moving to Fairfield Iowa by the middle of April 2007. I will try to present my own creative solutions to many of the issues that will come up. I will morn with the community as we let go of the greatest meditation teacher that this planet has seen. With all of the controversies that surround MMY he is still very difficult to replace. My visit to Fairfield for eight days from Jan 8th to 15th was very interesting. I experienced the conservative fundamentalist attitude from the dept of cons. and the more liberal feeling from the Farifield community. I was impressed with the wide spectrum of experiences in the spiritual and artistic realm of life. I have friends on both sides of the fence. I do understand what has been going on in the TMO and how some people have been isolated by following their own inner voice. My biggest problem is the strict guidelines that turn away Sidha's from the dome. Also, the meditators continue to be put to the side as if they are less than in comparison to the Sidha's. This is the wrong approach. I have been told by Saint Anthony who is channeled through a dear friend of mine that Maharishi did not set up the guidelines for the department for the development of consciousness. That the leaders in America of the TMO set them up. That Maharishi is tired of dealing with these issues. Personally I think Maharishi should deal with these issues and clear them up now. I am also in the process of making contact with a top person in the TMO to let him know what it going on in Fairfield Iowa. Many of MMY leaders forget what its like in the real world. As I meditated and did my Sidhi's program out in my rental car in the parking lot of the domes I got a good dosage of what its like to be judged for being an astrologer, yoga teacher and a teacher of meditation. You may ask, why is Lou even doing this? Putting himself in this position? Because I needed to experience first hand what goes on in the department for the development of cons. because it was 26 years ago that I had been to Fairfield. Wow. Not a change in the energy of the TMO. We are headed for a showdown by the end of this year. I wouldn't doubt a spaceship landing in those open wide corn fields after Maharishi passes over and out comes Maharishi introducing us to Guru Dev who informs the TMO that they are off the program and need to lighten up. He may even tell them to leave Lou Valentino alone. I happen to
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a dome in Fairfield, Iowa. I don't understand some of the reaction from the original comments I made regarding dome policies. I've been reading too much of the 'Overheard in New York' website lately, so I'll try to explain one possible reason in New York-ese: Yo! Bitchin' about the policies won't change them; you don't have any say about them. Complaining about them is like pissing into the wind. It makes you feel better, but the people standing around you tend to get as splattered as you do. :-)
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Try to stick to the subject. We are not talking about New York. We are talking about Fairfield Iowa. I'm not complaining. You think things will not change? Maybe not for the TMO but it will change the direction the wind is blowing when Maharishi passes over and you better hope the piss doesn't land on your face. How's that for New York language. JGD.
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Lou, I see you are still outstanding in your own field ;-) --- Mr. Magoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, time will tell if its destined to be or a house of cards --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a dome in Fairfield, Iowa. I don't understand some of the reaction from the original comments I made regarding dome policies. Doing the ME in Fairfield Iowa is the issue not Iraq. If you have no faith left in what Maharishi is doing or has done than just move on. It is no wonder that the TMO gets away with silly guidelines that are fundamentalist in nature. They have a Fairfield community that doesn't know how to organize at the grass roots level to make a statement to the TMO about how their policies are hurting the world. Instead people get on the FFL forum and become isolated opinion minds who would rather spend their time criticizing people like myself who are offering other ways to change the situation. And if the situation cannot be changed then an alternative approach would be more creative that accomplishes the goal that Maharishi wanted. We have huge problems on this planet. Spiritual organizations that don't know how to work together with most of the leaders from India and spiritual communities that have given up on creative solutions that would continue the process of human evolution to build self-empowerment. Start looking at yourselves as the new leaders of the world. And get ready for Maharishi not being around anymore by the end of this summer. Both the Fairfield community and the TMO will be going through a basti. With all of the shit that is backed up in the fundamentalist digestive system of the TMO and all of the waste that is floating around in the Fairfield community, the outcome will need some direction or it could destroy everything Maharishi worked for. Fairfield will either prosper to a different level or it will become a ghost town after Maharishi's departure. How do you want Fairfield Iowa to look or operate after Maharishi's death? You can continue to judge him or take what he has taught us and use our creative intelligence to create a world filled with love and joy. A wonderful opportunity is upon us. Choices will be made. People will be saying all kinds of things. Leaders for Maharishi will be fighting over who is the true owner of the piece of golden pie that the organization has created for itself. You may ask -well Lou what are you going to do about it? I will be moving to Fairfield Iowa by the middle of April 2007. I will try to present my own creative solutions to many of the issues that will come up. I will morn with the community as we let go of the greatest meditation teacher that this planet has seen. With all of the controversies that surround MMY he is still very difficult to replace. My visit to Fairfield for eight days from Jan 8th to 15th was very interesting. I experienced the conservative fundamentalist attitude from the dept of cons. and the more liberal feeling from the Farifield community. I was impressed with the wide spectrum of experiences in the spiritual and artistic realm of life. I have friends on both sides of the fence. I do understand what has been going on in the TMO and how some people have been isolated by following their own inner voice. My biggest problem is the strict guidelines that turn away Sidha's from the dome. Also, the meditators continue to be put to the side as if they are less than in comparison to the Sidha's. This is the wrong approach. I have been told by Saint Anthony who is channeled through a dear friend of mine that Maharishi did not set up the guidelines for the department for the development of consciousness. That the leaders in America of the TMO set them up. That Maharishi is tired of dealing with these issues. Personally I think Maharishi should deal with these issues and clear them up now. I am also in the process of making contact with a top person in the TMO to let him know what it going on in Fairfield Iowa. Many of MMY leaders forget what its like in the real world. As I meditated and did my Sidhi's program out in my rental car in the parking lot of the domes I got a good dosage of what its like to be judged for being an astrologer, yoga teacher and a teacher of meditation. You may ask, why is Lou even doing this? Putting himself in this position? Because I needed to experience first hand what goes on in the department for the development of cons. because it was 26 years ago that I had been to Fairfield. Wow. Not a change in the energy of the TMO. We are headed for a showdown by the end of this year. I wouldn't doubt a
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to stick to the subject. We are not talking about New York. We are talking about Fairfield Iowa. I'm not complaining. You think things will not change? I know that nothing you say will change them. As far as the TM organization goes, you are a nonentity. You do not exist. Nor do I, or many of the people here. The only people who could influence the dome policies in Fairfield do not read this list, and never will. In your original post today (which you *still* have not learned to include in your replies so that people here know what the hell you're referring to), you complain (and that *is* the word) about people who isolate themselves on FFL. Welcome to the Isolation Ward. :-) You're speaking to people who mainly agree with you but who, unlike you, have had to come to grips with the cold, hard facts about the TM movement, which are that their feedback and suggestions are not welcome and will never be heard, much less addressed. I was just trying to clue you in to that. Maybe not for the TMO but it will change the direction the wind is blowing when Maharishi passes over and you better hope the piss doesn't land on your face. How's that for New York language. JGD. You'll be a nonentity when Maharishi passes over, too. You'll have no more say in the policies of the TM organization then than you do now. Get used to it.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: We have a dome in Fairfield, Iowa. I don't understand some of the reaction from the original comments I made regarding dome policies. I've been reading too much of the 'Overheard in New York' website lately, so I'll try to explain one possible reason in New York-ese: Yo! Bitchin' about the policies won't change them; you don't have any say about them. Complaining about them is like pissing into the wind. It makes you feel better, but the people standing around you tend to get as splattered as you do. That's New York-ese?? Looks like pretty standard Barry-ese to me.
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The TMO will not change. You are correct but what will change in Fairfield is much more in alignment with spiritual community. And when the time is appropriate, my home will be open to everyone at Fairfield. The group program will involve everyone's group. Group meditation for everyone not just TM. Not just Ammachi. Not just SSRS. The second wave of spirituality in Fairfield presently will turn into a third wave which merges all of the energies together. This way we are all one big family. I was told that I could not attend an Amachi Friday lunch because it was for invitation only. See what I mean. Those who feel exclusivity is the norm regardless if its the TMO or any other spiritual group are filling themselves up with ego. I happen to enjoy the humanitarian vibration of Ammachi. But then I enjoy the humanitarian vibration of SSRS. I enjoy the non-dogmatic approach of Mother Meera. And I forgive Sathya Sai Baba so he can work out his own karma. The new TMO is in the town of Fairfield. We can thank the TMO for all of its guidelines. It has helped all of us to see that we are growing in a more expanded version of what Guru Dev wanted for the world. Lsoma.
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Thank you for the compliment. You are outstanding also. Lsoma.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO will not change. You are correct but what will change in Fairfield is much more in alignment with spiritual community. And when the time is appropriate, my home will be open to everyone at Fairfield. The group program will involve everyone's group. Group meditation for everyone not just TM. Not just Ammachi. Not just SSRS. The second wave of spirituality in Fairfield presently will turn into a third wave which merges all of the energies together. This way we are all one big family. I was told that I could not attend an Amachi Friday lunch because it was for invitation only. See what I mean. Those who feel exclusivity is the norm regardless if its the TMO or any other spiritual group are filling themselves up with ego. I happen to enjoy the humanitarian vibration of Ammachi. But then I enjoy the humanitarian vibration of SSRS. I enjoy the non-dogmatic approach of Mother Meera. And I forgive Sathya Sai Baba so he can work out his own karma. The new TMO is in the town of Fairfield. We can thank the TMO for all of its guidelines. It has helped all of us to see that we are growing in a more expanded version of what Guru Dev wanted for the world. Lsoma. You do not need to be invited to friday ammachi lunch, but you need to reserve ahead of time so they know how much to cook. IMO, Sai Baba should work out his own karma in jail.
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TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to stick to the subject. We are not talking about New York. We are talking about Fairfield Iowa. I'm not complaining. You think things will not change? I know that nothing you say will change them. As far as the TM organization goes, you are a nonentity. You do not exist. Nor do I, or many of the people here. The only people who could influence the dome policies in Fairfield do not read this list, and never will. In your original post today (which you *still* have not learned to include in your replies so that people here know what the hell you're referring to), you complain (and that *is* the word) about people who isolate themselves on FFL. Welcome to the Isolation Ward. :-) He is apparently above replying to individuals and here only to pontificate.
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I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. When we want God to forgive us of some of our perversions that's OK, but when we need to forgive God then its another story. We all have weakness of temptation. Even Jesus was side tracked by women at times. I'm not advocating that it is OK with Sai Baba. I feel that a teacher should act appropriately. But, their is much said that is untrue about him also. Lsoma.
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Sai Baba is a sexual pervert, a pedophile who has sexully abused hundreds of young boys over the years. Stop trying to create some sort of mystical bullshit surrounding his behavior. He took advantage of them because he could. He's as enlightened as the pile of shit my dog made this morning. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. When we want God to forgive us of some of our perversions that's OK, but when we need to forgive God then its another story. We all have weakness of temptation. Even Jesus was side tracked by women at times. I'm not advocating that it is OK with Sai Baba. I feel that a teacher should act appropriately. But, their is much said that is untrue about him also. Lsoma. Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
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We can thank the TMO for all of its guidelines. It has helped all of us to see that we are growing in a more expanded version of what Guru Dev wanted for the world. Lsoma. At any rate, all of us TMO grads and newbies do ipso facto represent what TMO and GD become as Westerners. So pat yourselves on the back. There is nobody else in the West who follow GD but us basically. Uh, what I mean is that you guys are Hindus. Without groovy names. Cool. Better that way. Alright. Party on.
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On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. Uh, you might want to change the channel or check their antenna if that's what they said. Check out Conny Larsson's (sp?) website for starters, this poor guy seems to have a karmic knack for finding false teachers.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. Uh, you might want to change the channel or check their antenna if that's what they said. Check out Conny Larsson's (sp?) website for starters, this poor guy seems to have a karmic knack for finding false teachers. I see what you mean. The closer you look, the worse it gets: http://www.saibabaexpose.com/fecris.htm Maharishi just wanted to change the world by telling it to relax, because in fact he wanted everyone to become TM meditators, regardless of whom and what they were. He made people feel so welcome but his ultimate aim, which I only began to understand after 1975 when I left the organisation, was to create a world government and, until today there is a parallel world government run by Ministers, Maharajas and Kings with plastic crowns and mantles as in the Middle Ages. The fact is that they believe this and they are not just anyone, but well educated people, psychiatrists, doctors, ministers, psychologists, all those people that today appear on the famous TV show run by Oprah Winfrey. Her sponsoring of the movement brings them much success through trumped up support from famous doctors and publications. You can all connect to the Maharishi Satellite Network: there is a very important 24h a day Channel and there it is very easy to see what is going on. Why did I leave this organisation? I began to wake up when he declared that Mother Teresa was the worst kind of human being on earth. She later won the Nobel Prize. His main problem with her was that he wanted the Nobel Prize for himself. I was told to manipulate those responsible for choosing the people to be nominated. We tried to do this and succeeded, as he had much influence at that time, to get him nominated but this was blocked by King Olaf of Norway. He then started saying that all his teachers, I was one of them, were soon going to levitate. We were going to fly and we would visit all kinds of planets about which the psychiatrists and other spiritual teachers were always telling us. I realised that this could not be true as I taught these courses. They called it the TM-Sidhi Programme. At these flying courses people would be sitting cross-legs on their backsides on their mattresses and they jumped whilst sitting like this. After a while one could become very skilful and could jump up as high as a metre or so only to fall back again. I heard Maharishi tell a French photographer with a slow camera just to cut the fall back part and put the photos together when they were up which gave a flying image. So he put them together and this was broadcast all over the world.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another faux-Buddhist! Enjoying the Void? Who needs God when you've got the Dalai Lama, eh? ;-)
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Once I hopped off the foam in the domes onto the cement. I went to a chiropractor for six months after that, and went back to transcending and left the sports for skinny vegans. - Original Message - From: kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. Uh, you might want to change the channel or check their antenna if that's what they said. Check out Conny Larsson's (sp?) website for starters, this poor guy seems to have a karmic knack for finding false teachers. I see what you mean. The closer you look, the worse it gets: http://www.saibabaexpose.com/fecris.htm Maharishi just wanted to change the world by telling it to relax, because in fact he wanted everyone to become TM meditators, regardless of whom and what they were. He made people feel so welcome but his ultimate aim, which I only began to understand after 1975 when I left the organisation, was to create a world government and, until today there is a parallel world government run by Ministers, Maharajas and Kings with plastic crowns and mantles as in the Middle Ages. The fact is that they believe this and they are not just anyone, but well educated people, psychiatrists, doctors, ministers, psychologists, all those people that today appear on the famous TV show run by Oprah Winfrey. Her sponsoring of the movement brings them much success through trumped up support from famous doctors and publications. You can all connect to the Maharishi Satellite Network: there is a very important 24h a day Channel and there it is very easy to see what is going on. Why did I leave this organisation? I began to wake up when he declared that Mother Teresa was the worst kind of human being on earth. She later won the Nobel Prize. His main problem with her was that he wanted the Nobel Prize for himself. I was told to manipulate those responsible for choosing the people to be nominated. We tried to do this and succeeded, as he had much influence at that time, to get him nominated but this was blocked by King Olaf of Norway. He then started saying that all his teachers, I was one of them, were soon going to levitate. We were going to fly and we would visit all kinds of planets about which the psychiatrists and other spiritual teachers were always telling us. I realised that this could not be true as I taught these courses. They called it the TM-Sidhi Programme. At these flying courses people would be sitting cross-legs on their backsides on their mattresses and they jumped whilst sitting like this. After a while one could become very skilful and could jump up as high as a metre or so only to fall back again. I heard Maharishi tell a French photographer with a slow camera just to cut the fall back part and put the photos together when they were up which gave a flying image. So he put them together and this was broadcast all over the world. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
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On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:33 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: I see what you mean. The closer you look, the worse it gets His book in English may be out, I'm not sure. That should be a doozee.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:33 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: I see what you mean. The closer you look, the worse it gets His book in English may be out, I'm not sure. That should be a doozee. Hey Dozy, its spelled 'doozy'...Do all faux-Buddhists drink from the glass which is always half-empty?
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Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. The info on Sai Baba being a pedophile is now overwhelming, not from scandalous websites but mainly from former leaders of his org., many of whom had children sodomized and verified by doctors. These were people who did not want to believe the truth about Sai Baba but couldn't ignore the evidence after much agonizing. Do some common sense research on this rather than listening to channelers. Spiritual people look the other way when children are being molested? The world is a bad place because people show some discrimination as to who is and who isn't a true spiritual teacher? I had a very open mind about this issue when I first came across it, but I can't find any supporter of Sai Baba who's making any reasonable argument, just the above spiritual jive talk. Walking around in robes talking about God and periodically displaying some sidhis due to a grossly inbalanced kundalini process doesn't provide any kind of cover for grossly dark behavior.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. markmeredith wrote: The info on Sai Baba being a pedophile is now overwhelming, not from scandalous websites but mainly from former leaders of his org., many of whom had children sodomized and verified by doctors. These were people who did not want to believe the truth about Sai Baba but couldn't ignore the evidence after much agonizing. Do some common sense research on this rather than listening to channelers. Spiritual people look the other way when children are being molested? The world is a bad place because people show some discrimination as to who is and who isn't a true spiritual teacher? I had a very open mind about this issue when I first came across it, but I can't find any supporter of Sai Baba who's making any reasonable argument, just the above spiritual jive talk. Walking around in robes talking about God and periodically displaying some sidhis due to a grossly inbalanced kundalini process doesn't provide any kind of cover for grossly dark behavior. The sidhis he displayed were apparently sleight of hand tricks - this accoridng to many disciples who worked with him for years. He kept the rings and trinkets hidden between the folds of blankets that were piled next to him. The rings were made of cheap metals and glass stones by jewers in India who sold them to Sai Baba's people. Apparently there are vidoetapes of Sai Baba that show him quickly removing rings and ash etc from the pile of blankets and then putting them up his sleeves. Many people attest to knowing this and to helping to set it all up. They were so ensconced in the group that they never said anything about it for years!! He must have had some mesmerizing presence to have pulled all this stuff off for so many years.
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I don't know if Sai Baba pulls the whole Michael Jackson beat it routine with kids, but I do know that he is a shitty magician. I've seen the tapes of his versions of tricks that I learned when I was 10 years old. I saw his fumbling version of the steal the Vibhuti from the napkin while pretending to wipe your hands trick. I've seen the same double sided vase that I got for my birthday as a kid, used to amaze his gullible followers. I've seen him palm amulets and produce them on film as if he pulled them out of his cosmic ass. You are letting him get away with a magic act that would not cut it in a 4th grade talent show. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. The info on Sai Baba being a pedophile is now overwhelming, not from scandalous websites but mainly from former leaders of his org., many of whom had children sodomized and verified by doctors. These were people who did not want to believe the truth about Sai Baba but couldn't ignore the evidence after much agonizing. Do some common sense research on this rather than listening to channelers. Spiritual people look the other way when children are being molested? The world is a bad place because people show some discrimination as to who is and who isn't a true spiritual teacher? I had a very open mind about this issue when I first came across it, but I can't find any supporter of Sai Baba who's making any reasonable argument, just the above spiritual jive talk. Walking around in robes talking about God and periodically displaying some sidhis due to a grossly inbalanced kundalini process doesn't provide any kind of cover for grossly dark behavior.
