Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
Thanks MC, I'll check that site. I tried the clothespins to no avail. He's so fat *which is a good thing in this situation I guess* they just popped off. lol. t MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i THINK it was on this list that i first saw the reference, and i'm pretty sure it's

Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods-giving fluids

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
I didn't find how to give fluids on this list, but I'll keep looking for new ideas. One site said hang the bag from the ceiling with a hook. that worked well, but I couldn't tell how much I was giving. lol. I just gave them as long as he would let me and it looked like he had a nice 'bump'.

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
yes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go to Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? It is what I suspected

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
Yes, MC is known for being one of our most objective (cough) members. But I have to agree with her. Are you sure your vet actually said this t MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET! it's a major problem now that cats are living

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
Maybe he said hypO thyroid which I've never heard of a cat given. I guess it's possible, but I've never heard of it t MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET! it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
I really don't know if he's eating the canned food or the dry because he won't come in the room when I feed them anymore because that's where I started pilling him. When he stopped coming in the room to be fed I started pilling him when he came to bed. Now he doesn't come to bed with me

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
I think I'll give that a try today so I don't have to chase him down to go to the vet in the morning. thanks, t Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can crate him and cover his crate with a sheet sprayed with Feliway it might helpmaybe put Rescue Rememdy in his water. On Jul 19,

Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
I think Bob is too fat to use the clothespins. In fact I think that is why the vet recommended the cosequin. He asked me if he had problems getting around due to his weight and age The clothespins just kind of twisted inside out as he wiggled around. Bob topped 20 pounds at his highest

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
Their 'safe' place has been a room in the basement where I keep the litter pans and the food. I've had to move the food upstairs to be sure everyone's eating. I've left the litter pans and some toys and cat trees down there and tried not to chase anyone down there for vet visits or pilling.

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
oh n!! that is NOT what i want to hear! I hope shaft doesn't have crf too. I don't know if they even ran a cbc on him or just the thyroid panel. i'll find out tomorrow. ughhh. Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Debbie, if your

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem hyper-t

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
I just checked the last site given and it says it's best to medicate twice a day rather than once maybe that's why he's not doing so well. Maybe I'll go with the compounding gel for the ear. Or maybe we're just not giving enough. His muscle mass is just gone. He has suffered from skin

Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods and fluids

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
How many clothespins did you use? I tried 2. Also you did say you were feeding him fancy feast? What kind? tonya Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I did that with Fred he would turn around and bite me, so we did the clothes pins. He didn't get all mellow and happy BUT he couldn't

[Felvtalk] rescue ($) friendly vet near Erie

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
Someone on another list is looking for an inexpensive vet so that he can take in a stray he has found living outside his house in Erie. He just lost a cat to crf and took in 2 new cats from the shelter and can't afford a lot to help this new Tom who just showed up. Anyone familiar with the

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?

2008-07-20 Thread Sharyl
Didn't mean to upset you but wanted to give you a heads up.  I haven't dealt with hyper-t but have read that many apply the meds via a cream on the ear.  Some say the dose isn't as exact but if Shaft is so anti-pilling it might be a better alternative for you. Sharyl --- On Sun, 7/20/08,

Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods and fluids

2008-07-20 Thread Sharyl
Not Belinda but FF Minced Beef and Sliced Beef are both low in phos. Mine preferred the Minced Beef.  Also rotating flavors is a good idea.  I have a selection of 6 flavors I use so they only get a repeat every 3 days.    I didn't have to use the clothespins but have read where folks have used

Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
Hey, I ordered the binder from the link you sent me. But the newest update they have is 2005. Belinda feeds fancy feast. I just wonder what the phosphorous is on that. I'm going to check when I buy groceries. I have tried all the kidney canned prescription foods. Science diet

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

2008-07-20 Thread Chris
My Tucson is on daily meds and For Tuscon, we go through phases-she does OK w. Pill Pockets for a while, then we go to making a little ball with her favorite soft treat, then we might try the pill in a little ball of cheese or ham, and then we resort to holding and popping pill in her mouth. No

Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods and fluids

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
I'm vegetarian and just HATE feeding beef. ugh.. I'll try more clothespins. lol. HOw long is your tubing? Mine is soo long. I'm going to ask for a shorter one. I think that would be help. Thank you so much for all your help. t Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
I guess I will have to work on the treats. I am vegetarian and have never really given the cats treats, so they don't really know what they are. Bob thinks a pill pocket is a treat. That's about it. I'll have to break down and buy some deli turkey, ham or something else I guess and give it

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

2008-07-20 Thread Chris
I feel for you it ain't easy... If Shaft was a 'street' cat, think like he does-what would he tear through garbage bags in a dumpster for. If I push my Romeo too hard, he'll take off under some piece of furniture and just stay there until he figures I've come to my senses!. I've also used

Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods and fluids

2008-07-20 Thread Sharyl
My tubing for the admin set is 72.   Length shouldn't be a problem.  What counts is the initial drop in the tubing.  Mine drops down about 3' then curves back up to my lap.  It is the initial drop that gets the fluid flowing.  Also I massage the area around the needle.  Seems to help with the

Re: [Felvtalk] rescue ($) friendly vet near Erie

2008-07-20 Thread Kelley Saveika
There is an Erie in PA. Not to say there couldn't be an Erie in other places:) On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone on another list is looking for an inexpensive vet so that he can take in a stray he has found living outside his house in Erie. He just

Re: [Felvtalk] rescue ($) friendly vet near Erie

2008-07-20 Thread Pat Kachur
I'm in GA, too. Maybe it's Erie, PA. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:33 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] rescue ($) friendly vet near Erie Someone on another list is looking for an inexpensive vet so that he can

[Felvtalk] New member!

2008-07-20 Thread April and Jay
Hello! I just wanted to introduce myself and my FIV+ Boy MM. This whole FIV thing is very new to us and we would love any advice about it. MM was a stray. My neighbor started feeding him and when thy moved we took over. When we decided to move we took him with us. Having more room we wanted to

Re: [Felvtalk] New member!

2008-07-20 Thread Sally Davis
Welcome, you will find this group very helpful. If he is FIV not FeLV then you are better off. FIV cats live long lives with some health issues. FIV is mostly spread through bites. So as long as he is neutered and does not fight you should be able to mix him assuming he has FIV and not FeLV. Good

Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods-giving fluids

2008-07-20 Thread Wendy Griebel
You can also give fluids subcutaneously . Basically you would use a syringe and go just under the skin and inject sterile water. You can get the water at any grocery store. I have used this method before. You can do it about every hour to two hours. I did this with not only one of my kittens

Re: [Felvtalk] New member!

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
Is he felv (leukemia) positive or fiv positive? Welcome to the group! t April and Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I just wanted to introduce myself and my FIV+ Boy MM. This whole FIV thing is very new to us and we would love any advice about it. MM was a stray. My neighbor started

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison
The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison
Oh yeah, she said it...we actually argued about itI have never felt completely comfortable with her diagnostic skills...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:18:56 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem Yes,

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
lol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' person Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } The wrong kind, obviously!!! Debbie (COL) You gotta bloom where

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison
Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!! LOL...she hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal opinion).Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread Marylyn
Time for another vet. On Jul 20, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Debbie Harrison wrote: Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!! LOL...she hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal opinion). Debbie (COL) You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies

2008-07-20 Thread MaryChristine
unfortunately, not enough vets know as much as they really ought to. many, many times i wish that i knew MORE, because i am NOT a vet, i am NOT a virologist, and just do my best to make the things i've found clearer to others--and hope that those who know more than i do, will do likewise! i think

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread MaryChristine
and don't worry, debbie is WELL aware of my objectivity and lack of patience with willful ignorance, from another part of my life/side of the innerwebs and she STILL joined the list! On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, to answer you then...she

Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison
Ohai, MaryChristine...I'm happy that you posted the website yet again...it's the first time I have seen it! You rock, mai fondue fren!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:53:49 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison
Oh yes, I lubs mai fren MC!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:15:25 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem and don't worry, debbie is WELL aware of my objectivity and lack of patience with willful ignorance, from

Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
Sharyl, I have vaccinated my negatives. Yearly at first, and now every 3 years. I do not separate. Mine have been mixed going on about 15 years now and I've never had transmission. All my sick cats always get retested by my doubting vet, and they are always negative! t Sharyl

Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies

2008-07-20 Thread MaryChristine
yep, that's that anecdotal stuff i was referring to. why won't anyone ask the people who have BEEN there, i wonder??? and that whole, vaccinated positives living really long lives, is STILL one i'd like to see researched. too many of the people here can attest to that, which is

[Felvtalk] Fwd: Re: [feline-hyperT] OT Cat Litter

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
Could someone remind me what's wrong with the silica gel type litter??? tia t M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:39:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [feline-hyperT] OT Cat Litter Thanks, Tonya. I would appreciate knowing why it