[Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has returned

2011-03-22 Thread Alice Flowers
Rosie had such a great check up with the mass almost gone-now she is sleeping most of the time and I have been feeling the mass grow large again. She is on Leukeran every 3 days and pred daily with interferon 2x a day. I am calling the Dr tomorrow to see what we should do. I am beat down by this

Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has returned

2011-03-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Alice Keep your spirits up -- it is your love and healing that help Rosie. Where would she be without you? The temporary aspect, the fact that the cat lives a fraction of the human (and the sick cat even less) is one of the hardest things in life. Still, it is a blessing to both cat and

Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has returned

2011-03-22 Thread Sharyl
Alice, I am so sorry to read this.  You have done everything possible to help Rosie beat this.  You have given Rosie and the others so much love.  So many kitties are this fortunate. You all are in our thoughts and prayers Sharyl --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net

Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has returned

2011-03-22 Thread Beth
I feel your pain, Alice. Know Rosie loves you you have given her a good life. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has

Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has returned

2011-03-22 Thread Jannes Taylor
Very well said, Bonnie. Alice,  I am so sorry to hear this about Rosie,  but you are doing all you can do, and Rosie is very lucky to have you. After rescuing a felv cat just three weeks ago, I have learned so much just seeing all the emails that come through regarding this dreadful disease.

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2011-03-22 Thread Megan Geckler
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[Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
In the newspaper today: House cats are the #1 predator of wild birds. The American Bird Conservancy estimates up to 500 million birds per year are killed by cats. About 400,000 are killed yearly by wind turbines (less than 20% of the number killed by cats). So now we have another reason to

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Natalie
Amen to that! Whenever the cat that we brought back from England got out by accident (not by us), she'd be back in five minutes flat with a bird in her mouth! In addition, about 50% of migrating birds from South America also die by the time they get here I love the idea of wind power, but the

Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....

2011-03-22 Thread Gloria B. Lane
One thought process that I've run into is that a healthy adult cat (FELV negative) has a hearty enough immune system to successfully deal with the FELV virus without acquiring it. I can't see that vaccinating them at this point would be of value. Just my 2c Gloria From: Maureen Olvey

Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has returned

2011-03-22 Thread Andy Domek
Alice, I am so sorry to hear Rosie's mass has returned. Could this be to the decrease in pred? If so, could an increase help things out again? I am so sorry to hear that this is happening. Little Rosie, and Pirate Miso and Sachi are in my thoughts and prayers (and you too, of course!)

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread SomeWhere Sam
Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. The number one killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or construction for same. Humans: The Number One Threat to Birds http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=325 SomeWhere Sam From:

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread TANYA NOE
I was just going to say that Sam! --- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 4:36 PM Sorry but that information is outdated

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Heather
Me three... On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:47 PM, TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.comwrote: I was just going to say that Sam! --- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Debbie Bates
Thanks Sam!! You rock! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:36:23 -0700 From: sin...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Sorry but that information is outdated or

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread MaiMaiPG
Plus indiscriminate use of poisons in the landscapeeverything has to be sooo vvverrryyy neat. On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:47 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: I was just going to say that Sam! --- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net Subject:

Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....

2011-03-22 Thread Natalie
And I also wonder about adult cats that are FeLV+, and perfectly healthy. I've never had adults with no symptoms, only a kitten that died years ago. Eliot Spitty is about 5 yrs old, and Mr. Tux about 6 yrs old. I wonder how that will work out in the coming years - they get supplements, good food,

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Agreed, 100%... But keeping cats indoors will have the double benefit of saving the cat from disaster and reducing bird kills. ~B. - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 1:47 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
Actually, the leading killers are glass windows...particularly taller structures .car winfshields. But cats are the only bird predators in urban aareas, so they of course would be the largest killer of birds. There are other natural predators in rural areas...including other birds like owls,

Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....

2011-03-22 Thread Maureen Olvey
I have a friend that has had FeLV + cats for years. I remember her saying that some lived until their early teens and some died at 9 or 10. Either way, it's a long time. I'll check with her about it but I think she said some died from diseases that typically don't relate to FeLV like renal

Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....

2011-03-22 Thread Natalie
I've had FIV cats live to ripe old agesbut this is my first time with adult FeLV cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:09 PM To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Maureen Olvey
I see there are a lot of people that take care of ferals and get tired of hearing all the reasons they should be killed, not TNR'd. My answer is always Even if they do kill a lot of birds, TNR is the way to reduce the population so TNR is the best way to save the birds. I didn't know that

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Edna Taylor
I was thinking the same thing Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:36:23 -0700 From: sin...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. The number one killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread SomeWhere Sam
Well here locally about 5 years ago 50 acres filled with nesting egrets was bull dozed by a construction company, egrets were lost in huge numbers, more than any that hit windows. Construction company got a slap on the wrist. Again my statement about the #1 Bird Killers are humans stands.

Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....

2011-03-22 Thread Sara Kasteleyn
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Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....

2011-03-22 Thread Second Chance Meows
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Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread LauraM
I've tried using those statistics on people who refuse to contain their cats, thinking they MIGHT care about wildlife even though they clearly aren't concerned with their cats' own safety. Hasn't worked. There are also people out there who want irresponsible owners of bird-killing cats to be

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread LauraM
Yes, the number one cause of bird extinction is habitat loss, but cats are #2. There's a well-known study that was conducted on a couple of adjacent beaches in California, one with a feral cat population and one without. The beach that is home to feral cats has no birds - remember that most

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread create_me_new
I have ferals the birds seem smart enough to stay out of my yard. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:56:46 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread MaiMaiPG
Mine too. Those who aren't smart enough probably need to be removed from the genetic pool just as mice who come into a a home occupied by cats for 25+ years. I don't like it but do consider it fact. On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:16 PM, create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: I have ferals the birds seem

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Melinda Kerr
My crazy Fuji just wants to make friends with them. She brought us a bird that fell out of a nest once. She brought another one, and then let it go (alive) when it was time to come in. I have caught her a few times with the hamster, but she has never hurt her. I suppose she just doesn't

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
All too true. In Milwaukee, once, I saw a terrified wolf on the downtown expressway being chased down by law enforcement (I think that ended badly for the wolf :-() And all along my former bus route between Milwaukee and Racine you can see deer and wolves in the fields-that-used-to-be-woods that

Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....

2011-03-22 Thread create_me_new
My Bubba was about 5 when he died. He didn't have any problems until the last year of his life. Then we battled periodic high fevers stomatitis. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Yes, humans have negatively impacted the planet in a number of ways, to be sure. And in retrospect, I think my post was inappropriate. My points were only (1) to further encourage folks to keep their cats indoors for (as you point out) their well-being; and (2) highlight the incredible number

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread MaiMaiPG
That doesn't mean it was wrongjust that there are other things to consider. My personal cats are house cats. There are ferals and those who are passing by that I care abouta lot. These guys have a different life style...not right or wrong but different. I wish all cats could

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread SomeWhere Sam
LOL Humans are a non-native, introduced and subsidized predators.G This is like expecting pet owners to spay or neuter their pets, interesting idea, one which I would love to see, but seeing and knowing human nature is not going to happen in my lifetime. SomeWhere Sam

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Sally Davis
It is true... Loss of habitat is number one. Thanks for bringing it up. Sally On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:36 PM, SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. The number one killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or construction for same.

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Natalie
My rationale in telling adopters is: Cats that are kept indoors cost cat owners a lot less money spent at the vet than those that go outdoors - it has actually been proven. Cats that go out are in danger of contracting diseases from other cats, getting injuries from fights with other cats

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Natalie
With coyotes, all you have to do is wave your arms a lot and yell.. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: