Michelle,
Reading this email just broke my heart. I can hear in
your words how very much you love Lucy. I wish I
could just hug both of you and do something for you
both. No matter how strong my faith is, I always have
questions. Everyone doesn't get to experience the
natural cycle of life.
I don't know the answer to that. I have had cats die from dry FIP but not
wet. The conversation I had with my vet about the wet version was when I was
at his clinic in the back - he was working off and on on some of our rescue
group's cats and a kitty was brought back to have fluid drawn
Well, Lucy screamed while they were feeling around her belly trying to find
the place to put the needle in, but while they drained she just laid in my
arms and purred. The fluid, which I was told was clear and thin on January 16
and 17 when samples were taken, looked pale yellow to me and
None of the websites say... even Dr. Addie's says all FIP cats are
euthanized. I suppose it will get to a point where she will be suffering so
bad you'll have to euthanise her? It appears that is the case with every
other FIP+ cat in existence. Surely there have been research cats that they
have
i know a lot of FIP cats, with the wet form, that have been allowed to
die naturally at home, so i guess i'm missing the point here
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None of the websites say... even Dr. Addie's says all FIP cats are
euthanized. I suppose it will get
As I understand it, with wet FIP unless fluid is continually drained it will
begin to accumulate in the abdominal cavity and begin to squeeze out the lungs
so that breathing becomes harder and harder -- and the cat essentially
suffocates. I think that is why all wet FIP kitties are
With dry fip, it is organ failure and/or anemia. My Buddy died naturally
from what probably was dry fip. His pcv was 6 the last time it was measured, a
couple of days before. The vet said he should not have been able to stand.
But he was on the dex/depo combo shots, and he was literally
yes, you are probably right. It is possible to keep draining it, but how
many times do you do that? as long as they are still eating? I don't know. But
you probably are right.
Michelle
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As I
Do you know what actually killed them in the end? was it not eating, or
breathing difficulty, or anemia, or something else?
I am just trying to prepare myself.
thanks,
Michelle
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Subject: Re: Lucy update
With dry fip, it is organ failure and/or anemia. My Buddy died naturally
from what probably was dry fip. His pcv was 6 the last time it was
measured, a couple of days before. The vet said he should not have been
able to stand. But he was on the dex/depo combo
Hideyo, all of yours had dry fip, though, right? Or did one have wet fip?
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Actually, with all of my 6 kitties who died of FIP, they all passed away
naturally except one, Olive who developed severe
baby,, and she will always be your baby
and no one can take that away from you...
Hideyo
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Well, Lucy
30, 2007 2:53 PM
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Hideyo, all of yours had dry fip, though, right? Or did one have wet
fip?
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Actually, with all of my 6 kitties who died
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Hideyo, all of yours had dry fip, though, right? Or did one have wet
fip?
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Hideyo, I am not going to do anything to her right now. I hardly ever
euthanize at all, much less while someone is eating. Most of my animals have
died
at home on their own. I just do not want her to suffer too much in the end,
which is why I asked the vet. I think my cat Buddy went
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Hideyo, I am not going to do anything to her right now. I hardly ever
euthanize at all, much less while someone is eating. Most of my animals
have died at home
to eat..
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Do you know what actually killed them in the end? was it not eating, or
breathing difficulty
Well, I took Lucy to the local vet for a PCV check today because she has
been so lethargic that I was sure it was under 10 and I would need to decide on
a transfusion over the weekend. But it was 15! I was very glad about that. She
is still super-lethargic, though, although she has more
.
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Well, I took Lucy to the local vet for a PCV check today because she has
been so lethargic
It's not that she has fluid, it's the amount. At this point it is extremely
visible to the naked eye-- it looks like she swallowed a small basketball. It
is the way fip bellies look. All i have read about fluid with toxo says
that sometimes some can be detected by x-ray.. Nowhere did it
lasix..
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It's not that she has fluid, it's the amount. At this point it is
extremely visible
Yes, they said they will give her lasix if/when the fluid makes her
uncomfortable. I think she is breathing a little funny, but the vet did not
think so
much. The problem with lasix is that it leaches nutrients she needs and also
risks damage to the kidneys. At some point she will
Hi Michelle,
I am catching up on all your emails regarding sweet
Lucy, and I am sorry that the internist thinks it is
FIP. I don't know much about wet FIP, thus I don't
know how serious it is. Considering her current
health, I'm betting FIP is pretty serious. I hope you
are able to find a way
Here we go, FELV studies, I knew I had these saved somewhere:
http://vetinterferon.nexenservices.com/aff_abstract.php?id=55lang=eng
http://vetinterferon.nexenservices.com/aff_abstract.php?id=151lang=eng
http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00243.htm
So there are two different dosings (at least) for VO: The FIP dosing is
every other day. The FeLV dosing is every day for 5 days then repeat later. I
have a total of 4 doses and won't get more until next week at the earliest.
So
my question for you guys who have used VO is: Do you think I
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Subject: VO dosing question and Lucy update
So there are two different dosings (at least) for VO: The FIP dosing is
every other day. The FeLV dosing is every day for 5 days then repeat
later. I have a total of 4 doses and won't get more until next week at
the earliest. So my question for you
That's for FIP, which I don't know that she has. The product info says every
day for FeLV. You think for FeLV it is better to do every other day as well?
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Michelle –go every other day – the effect
question and Lucy update
That's for FIP, which I don't know that she has. The product info says
every day for FeLV. You think for FeLV it is better to do every other
day as well?
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Michelle -go
Michelle,
This is not a given, there was a cat on the anemia list that got
epogen for years and never had a rejection problem, it died from
unrelated anemia problems. I also know of a cancer cat with CRF getting
epogen for almost 2 years and never had a problem.
eventually rejects
What I meant to say her is:
Problems unrelated to anemia
unrelated anemia problems
--
Belinda
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I would absolutely NOT do an exploratory as weak as she is, I don't think
she would live through it.
I would do the Feline Omega on the FIP schedule. I would hate for you to try
to use it sparingly and then it not be enough... and then if she didn't make
it, you would be living with the regret of
I don't think it was every day for FIV... let me refer to the studies I have
saved... I believe it has a lasting effect for 24 hours, then somehow wears
off
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At the same time, the cat was given feline omega interferon according to the
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kilogram
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Yippee! Good for Lucy! Give her a big hug from me!
Kerry
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Hi all,
Thank you
Yay!! That's a testament to love and prayers, too!! Glad she's doing so well. Keep us updated and give her a chin scratch from me!MJ[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all, Thank you for you good wishes and prayers. I'm pleased to report that Lucy came through the surgery with flying colors! They
Yay Lucy!!
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Congratulations on Lucy's success!!! I know you are
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Hi all,
Thank you for you good wishes and prayers. I'm
pleased to report that Lucy came through
That's good news! Thanks for the update.
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Hi all,
Thank you for you good wishes
YAY!!!
I send a bunch of kittyheadbutts and hugs to Lucy!
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Well, Lucy ate 3 jars of turkey
I've heard of people giving Bean-o to dogs, is that okay for cats too?
If it's okay, maybe you could add just the tiniest squirt to her baby
food. The vet on the IBD list was kind enough to send me the recipe
for adding calcium and B vita to baby food to make it more complete
when I was assist
Yeah, I had heard on a radio program on cat's health and nutrition that
taurine is so very important. The speaker even said that she thought
it was a great immune booster. If Lucy is eating the baby food with
the FF added in, that's great! Gypsy wouldn't touch the raw food with
that and I had
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Thanks. My mom did research on the net and told me cats can get liquid
di-gel for gas
Well, Lucy ate 3 jars of turkey baby food today, with her raw food
supplements mixed in, and ate a couple of handfuls of cooked turkey and duck,
all of which combined should be a normal amount of daily calories, I think (the
baby food alone is 240 calories for 3 jars).Her weight is back
I will try the rice bran..I just never thought about it, but it will help hold the water in same as oat bran, I guess. Hope Lucy is feeling better now... Kerry and Bandy
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Prayers for Lucy to get regular and feel much better soon.
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Well, I found two very small, very hard bowels in the litter box just now.
I can't be sure it's Lucy and not Patches, but I think it probably was. it would
make sense of why she has had very small amounts of liquid stool very far apart,
as that can happen with constipation. She has not
Michelle, That sounds much better...I sure hope it was the pine litter..It does sound like it could be and/or maybe she just had a little infection going on like Inky did when they put him on the metro med...I would still try adding a little oat bran to her turkey..I put around a tsp on
I am using rice bran now, which I hope helps. I have used slippery elm in
the past, but it seems to increase Lucy's diarrhea when she has it.
Thanks,
Michelle
In a message dated 7/4/2006 10:19:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Michelle,
That sounds much
Kerry,
I've read that pure rice bran is a better alternative than oat bran for
cats. You can get it at the health food store. I can't remember the
'whys' of the debate, but at the time I decided it was worth changing to
rice bran.
Nina
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Michelle,
That sounds much
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