Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Arty, again, this is an email I tried to post early this morning, but for some reason it didn’t go through to the Listserve, so I am reposting: From: Amani Oakley Sent: October-21-15 11:51 AM To: 'felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

ose to $10,000 when all treatments were tallied up, for > > worthless ineffective treatment, until I accidentally hit upon the > > Winstrol, with a cost of something like 50 cents per pill. Of course they > > were telling me the whole time to let him go, and that I needed to cons

[Felvtalk] FW: FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

You may be right Ardy, as to their motivation, but in my case, I was allowed to spend close to $10,000 when all treatments were tallied up, for worthless ineffective treatment, until I accidentally hit upon the Winstrol, with a cost of something like 50 cents per pill. Of course they were

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 9:34 AM To: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) I got the vibe from the vet last night that we were going down hill, and I had lost a lot of hope. I w

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

y, October 23, 2015 12:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Not sure my emails are going through. However I have to tell everyone that FeLv is not the horridly contagious disease that most vets would have us believe. Three years ago to th

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

AZT though. > Search on line and you will see references to it being very harsh on a cat’s > system. > > Why not try the Winstrol first and see if you get the same response I got. > You will see a difference in a relatively short period of time (I would think > probably within

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

GOOD NEWS! MY PRAYERS FOR HIS CONTINUED RECOVERY. Lance wrote: > Glad to hear that Merlot is eating some on his own. That’s great! > > Regarding AZT, you might check the Feline Retrovirus Guidelines paper for > more information: > >

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

remains normal which is positive. The vet is recommending doing AZT, this is a different vet than yesterday and she seems more open to talknig about things. She seemed open to calling Amani's vet to chat about Winstrol. I'm still force feeding, and they want to stop the prednisolone to let his WBC

[Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Arty, again, this is an email I tried to post early this morning, but for some reason it didn’t go through to the Listserve, so I am reposting: From: Amani Oakley Sent: October-21-15 11:51 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Arty, the Winstrol

[Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

to turn stuff around. I would be concerned about using AZT though. Search on line and you will see references to it being very harsh on a cat’s system. Why not try the Winstrol first and see if you get the same response I got. You will see a difference in a relatively short period of time (I would

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

sio <mde...@gmail.com> > To: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > I got the vibe from the vet last night that we were going down hill, and

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

(who tests > negative). That cat was a very aggressive player and really made Tigger > nervous and stressed out so we don’t have her anymore. > > > > I am going to read about Winstrol and also talk to both of our vet offices > about it. The reason I am using two ve

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Thank you Amani, I really, really appreciate the support. I will agree with > you that I do see the negative aspect of outlook from vets. With my last cat, > I was less informed

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

n giving up and > euthanizing – give them a chance! > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya > D'Alessio > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

nce started eating fairly well, but still not drinking as > much as he should. He is also on the appetite stimulant you mentioned. > > > > I had not heard about Winstrol before. The vets in my area have always > euthanized cats at the first mention of FeLV so treating Tigger

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

IS WINSTROL SOETHING THAT HAS A LONG SHELF LIFE, SOMETHING I COULD GET JUST IN CASE? Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > Ardy > > If you do decide to try the Winstrol, get his blood checked before and then > after a few weeks on the Winstrol. If this wor

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

the symptoms.Best to Merlot, and you,Margo-Original Message- From: Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> Sent: Oct 20, 2015 8:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Good news; his temperature is down to a "high normal", bad news; he has

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

s long as I > see that it is helping to allow him to live to fight another day. With > something like leukemia, when they crash, you really should expect at least > a month of convalescence and reduced appetite, while hopefully other things > like the Winstrol start to increase his b

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol®)

appy I have a supportive vet. I will send you > some links to stuff about Winstrol, but it is hard to find since the mind-set > you have encountered already, is all too common, even when our cats are dying > and there are few realistic alternatives. > > Most of the links I wil

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

m to live to fight another day. With something like > leukemia, when they crash, you really should expect at least a month of > convalescence and reduced appetite, while hopefully other things like the > Winstrol start to increase his blood counts. He needs to keep eating while > his bl

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

was robust again. Winstrol again is prescribed specifically for that very thing – as an appetite stimulant. This is why I am so fixated on this stuff. It helps them feel better, it builds up their strength and muscles, it improves their appetites, it is used in chronic anemia to increase red cell

[Felvtalk] Winstrol

At an internet site called Winstrol.net, it has the following blurb as to when Winstrol is used in animals: Why Stanozolol Is Used On Pets Stanozolol - sold commercially as Winstrol or Winstrol Depot - is a kind of anabolic steroid that is most commonly used by humans. However, Stanozolol

[Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol®)

Maya, Seriously, I have to wonder about some vets. What is he offering you that will help your cat?? Anyhow, all I can say is I am happy I have a supportive vet. I will send you some links to stuff about Winstrol, but it is hard to find since the mind-set you have encountered already, is all

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

a month of convalescence and reduced appetite, while hopefully other things like the Winstrol start to increase his blood counts. He needs to keep eating while his blood counts go up, and you need to give him the time to recover. I know that other people have a very different view, and I have learned

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

nder about some vets. What is he offering you that > will help your cat?? > > Anyhow, all I can say is I am happy I have a supportive vet. I will send > you some links to stuff about Winstrol, but it is hard to find since the > mind-set you have encountered already, is all too common,

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

no formula for mosr people. I always read "you'll know", but I'm not sure that's true. Sorry I can't be more help with that.Margo-Original Message- From: Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> Sent: Oct 20, 2015 1:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanoz

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

no formula for > mosr people. I always read "you'll know", but I'm not sure that's true. > Sorry I can't be more help with that. > > Margo > > > -Original Message- > From: Maya D'Alessio > Sent: Oct 20, 2015 1:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

ve. There really is no formula for mosr > people. I always read "you'll know", but I'm not sure that's true. Sorry I > can't be more help with that. > > Margo > > > -Original Message- > From: Maya D'Alessio > Sent: Oct 20, 2015 1:56 PM >

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

I feel for you Maya. If there are issues with anemia, then none of the other medications he has Merlin on, will touch the anemia, other than the Winstrol. Tell him you will sign a form if he wants you to do that, indicating that you take full responsibility for treating with Winstrol, but you

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Good news; his temperature is down to a "high normal", bad news; he has an anemia murmur. The vet was not hearing me about Winstrol and he seemed in a bad mood. I'm hanging on to the decreased fever as a sign of good things. We will re-do blood work tomorrow and re-asses in the mornin

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 1:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Thank you Amani, I really, really appreciate the support. I will agree with you that I do see the negative aspect of outlook from vets

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Ardy If you do decide to try the Winstrol, get his blood checked before and then after a few weeks on the Winstrol. If this works as well for you as it did for me, you will want some solid proof to demonstrate its effect. Hopefully, the vet will learn, as mine did since I got weekly blood work

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

taken in (who tests negative). That cat was a very aggressive player and really made Tigger nervous and stressed out so we don’t have her anymore. I am going to read about Winstrol and also talk to both of our vet offices about it. The reason I am using two vet offices is because our regular

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

, but still not drinking as much as he should. He is also on the appetite stimulant you mentioned. I had not heard about Winstrol before. The vets in my area have always euthanized cats at the first mention of FeLV so treating Tigger is a big of a learning experience for both of the offices

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

elvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Maya D'Alessio > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2015 1:08 PM > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Thank you Amani, I really, really appreciate the support. I will agr

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Thanks Ardy. He just was grooming for about a minute, so that was exciting! I've been cleaning him

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol Study Article

talk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > James G Wilson > Sent: September-21-15 3:54 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol Study Article > > Hi Amani, Kelley, and all, > > This list does not provide for posting pdf files or pictu

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol Study Article

Sent: September-21-15 3:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol Study Article Hi Amani, Kelley, and all, This list does not provide for posting pdf files or picture images (jpg, gif, png, etc). It is a text-based information resource with a limit of 20Kb of text per

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol Study Article

materials from all of the previous messages that have been quoted in the thread. Please let me know if you have any questions about all of this. Amani, I found the article on Winstrol online at: http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.86.11.798 3 Everyone should be able to copy

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol Study Article

out all of > this. > > Amani, I found the article on Winstrol online at: > http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.86.11.798 > 3 Everyone should be able to copy and paste it into their > browsers to read it. Please let me know if there are a

[Felvtalk] Treatment with Winstrol (Stanozolol)

that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying with leukemia (and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to nothing and I had given him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up his numbers to any great degree) then as a last ditch effort, I tried some Winstrol I had

Epogen? Winstrol?

Hi all. A few people have recommended looking into Epogen and/or Winstrol for Slinky. He's very anemic. His numbers on Wed. were as follows: WBC: 2.86 K/uL LYM: 1.09 K/uL MONO: 1.52 K/uL NEU: .17 K/uL EOS: 0.08 K/uL BASO: 0 K/uL HCT: 14.8% RBC: 2.91 M/uL HGB: 7.7 g/dL

Re: Epogen? Winstrol?

into Epogen and/or Winstrol for Slinky. He's very anemic. His numbers on Wed. were as follows: WBC: 2.86 K/uL LYM: 1.09 K/uL MONO: 1.52 K/uL NEU: .17 K/uL EOS: 0.08 K/uL BASO: 0 K/uL HCT: 14.8% RBC: 2.91 M/uL HGB: 7.7 g/dL RETIC: 16.9 K/uL %RETIC: 0.6% MCV

Re: Winstrol

Winstrol is the shot he gets every 2 weeks. I will ask the vet Saturday what that is doing for Smokey. Cindy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought Winstrol is just to counteract muscle wasting. Does it stimulate the kidneys to produce rbc's (or, probably what you mean is to send

Re: Winstrol

We've used Winstrol to counteract the muscle wasting. And, being a steroid, it does help with appetite stimulation

Re: Winstrol

No, you were right, probably-- the kidneys send out a hormone that stimulate the bone marrow to produce red blood cells, so it may be that Winstrol works on the kidneys, which in turn stimulate the bone marrow. I had just never heard of it helping with anemia at all. That's one

WInstrol - build muscle mass and increase appetite

it thru the vet? Gloria On Dec 12, 2005, at 1:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/12/05 1:33:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's Winstrol? Winstrol is an anabolic steroid, a controlled substance due to it's abuse by people using it for body

Re: WInstrol - build muscle mass and increase appetite

Gloria~ Yes, it has to be prescribed thru a vet because as I said it is a "controlled" drug - right up there with narcotics. However, it does work very well with cats that seem to be "wasting away" due to their illnesses. As much as use of steroids is debated, I feel when it comes down to

To Helen: Sammy and Winstrol

Helene, I don't know much about the long-term effects of Interferon, but I did hear from two different vets that Winstrol can damage the liver (or maybe it was kidneys, but I think the liver) if given long term, so you may want to do some research on Winstrol. Glad to hear Sammy is doing so well

Re: To Helen: Sammy and Winstrol

The use of winstrol is bringing out the "big guns", so to speak. It is a very powerful steroid, and, like any drug there are warnings and precautions. However, I have found that when using winstrol on a terminal illness, it has been a godsend for the kitty. You have to weigh

Re: To Helen: Sammy and Winstrol

What's Winstrol? At 11:16 AM 12/12/2005, you wrote: Helene, I don't know much about the long-term effects of Interferon, but I did hear from two different vets that Winstrol can damage the liver (or maybe it was kidneys, but I think the liver) if given long term, so you may want to do some

Re: To Helen: Sammy and Winstrol

In a message dated 12/12/05 1:33:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's Winstrol? Winstrol is an anabolic steroid, a "controlled substance" due to it's abuse by people using it for body-building, etc. VERY effective in restoring muscle mass, thus

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