While you are at it: Please make sure lids from cans are completely off and
not just bent back. When I was working I found a little stray who was
trying to lick a can clean and got his head stuck. You have no idea how
hard it is to get a panicked stray/feral's head out of a can. I still
Well, I just got off the phone with them. The short list of suspected
diagnoses is not good. Dry FIP, toxoplasmosis, tumor, possibly brain
tumor. She doesn't have the reflex to where you close your eye when
you think someone's going to poke it..forgot which reflex this is.
Her liver enzymes
Just wanted you to know that you both are in my
thoughts and prayers this AM. I hope you find
positive solutions to Caroline's illness.
God bless,
Dede
When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service
of your God
Mosiah 2:17
Thank you. She's very ill. I'm not sure the right thing to do.
On 5/27/07, dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wanted you to know that you both are in my
thoughts and prayers this AM. I hope you find
positive solutions to Caroline's illness.
God bless,
Dede
When you are in the
Wow didn't think this subject would last this long.
Anyway, I recycle my plastic bags. I dump dirty cat litter in them then put
that into the bags that the clean litter comes in. So there isn't a smell.
I remember years ago one of my Mom's cats got hung up in the handle parts
and
She is in my thoughts and prayers!
Hope the Vet is able to find out the cause of this.
Take care of yourself!
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I guess the best option is to hope and pray it is toxioplasmosis.
Brain cancer and dry FIP aren't treatable. I told them to go ahead
and start her on the antibiotic to treat toxioplasmosis...
Kelley
On 5/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
She is in my thoughts and prayers!
Kelly, I'm so sorry Caroline isn't doing well. Best vibes that it's the
toxo and nothing worse. Hugs to both of you.
Diane R.
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Does toxo usually cause seizures???
On 5/27/07, Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kelly, I'm so sorry Caroline isn't doing well. Best vibes that it's the
toxo and nothing worse. Hugs to both of you.
Diane R.
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What we should do is to bring our own reusable bags when we shop.
Pam
Kelly L wrote:
At 08:13 PM 5/26/2007, you wrote:
Why can we lobby to have them made of a thin cardboard so they will
biodegrade..I hate them!!
While on this subject, don't forget to cut through the handles of all
I wonder if it's not better to NOT let the lid come off completely but
leave it attached when the can i s empty, push the lid closed again,
in such a way that the lid is held down under the brim o f the can.
Pam
Marylyn wrote:
While you are at it: Please make sure lids from cans are
I do the same thing with my used litter, then tie the bag shut, cut the
handles put them in a commercial dumpster near where I feed my ferals.
Pam
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*/Wow didn't think this subject would last this long./*
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*/Anyway, I recycle my plastic bags. I dump dirty cat
Apparently it can. When JuneAmy was with me started having seizures,
that was one of the things we tested for. In her case we never found
the reason because the lymphoma took her so soon after she got here.
Pam
Kelley Saveika wrote:
Does toxo usually cause seizures???
On 5/27/07, Diane
Hello everyone
I just joined this group as I have just had two FeLV
positive test results on my year old kitten.
I adopted her from a cat shelter two months ago
with many health issues (upper respiratory, diarrhea
giardia, stomatits). I was told that she was FeLV negative
and figured I could
At 10:24 AM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
Welcome..and THANK YOU
No it is not a death sentence as you will see here. i just returned
from Best friends where I met Many old,,,15-22 year old cats ..
Unfortunately when kittens get it they seem to have a shorter life
span, My guy is a year and a half,
Kisa isn't doing very well so far.Over the last week, she's been getting
more lethargic day by day. And now she's at the point where all she does is
hide/sleep. When we bring her out of her hiding spot, she vomits almost
immediately. The Chloropromazine didn't help the vomiting, so I
I'm so sorry you and Caroline have to go through this. I hope they can
figure out what the problem is and be able to help her.
Cassandra
- Original Message -
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject:
You should be giving her subqs at least!
You are fast approaching the point, if not already there yet, where if
you are not going to put in a tube to feed her you are not going to
consult an oncologist, that continuing as she is now would be only
prolonging her suffering. She is not going
At 11:50 AM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
I agree with Pam she is suffering,,,she needs the tube and fluids,
Please do let her just lie there suffering,,All the medications CAN
be given via injection.She is dying,,,
Kelly
Kisa isn't doing very well so far.Over the last week, she's been
My dear Cassandra,
Please take a look at the archives about my Spencer. When we got to the
point that you are now, I decided to stop trying to force feed and
medicate beyond his daily dex shot and in his case, occasional nose
drops to help his congestion and breathing. I don't know if the
Nina
She is neg,and was retested neg/neg. Thanks for the thoughts.
On 5/27/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kelley,
I'm sorry to hear about Caroline. Prayers that she responds to the abx
and starts feeling better very soon. Your description of symptoms and
possible causes sound eerily like
Kelley,
I'm sorry to hear about Caroline. Prayers that she responds to the abx
and starts feeling better very soon. Your description of symptoms and
possible causes sound eerily like what Michelle's Lucy went through. I
know you've had a lot of losses lately, it's always a chilling thought
Bless your hearts for taking these babies in, and for your caring even for
the one who was past help. Best of luck with them, I would actually worry a
little about what the Humane Society would do with them, right now in the
middle of kitten season.
Diane R.
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From:
Hello Jane and welcome. Every one of us on this list has lived through
the fear and confusion you are facing. This list has been a haven for
me and so many others, I'm so very glad you've found us. It sounds like
you have a wonderful vet and that MeMe, (very cute name, I can just
picture
That works unless something hits the lid and cracks it.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
Cassandra,
I am so sorry. Kisa sounds like such a special kitty.
I loved reading about how she carries her stuffed
panda around. What special memories you have of her.
Still praying for her to rally. And for comfort for
you.
:)
Wendy
--- C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kisa isn't doing
I want to piggy back on what Nina wrote. She is right
that what happens with Kisa is not up to us. We
should all remember that it's up to Kisa and Cassandra
what happens next. I remember reading some posts when
Cricket was dying urging me to do this or that.
Ultimately, it was Cricket's and my
What a king you have! Prayers going out that these
kitties' welfare will be looked after and loving homes
found for all five.
:)
Wendy
--- Debbie and Brian Morton
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Just went to a nearby town by way of back roads. Saw
a car parked at the
edge of a field. Saw a bunch
bless you both.
(take down license numbers, folks, it's that time of year. sadly.)
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Maybe That'll Make The Difference
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She understands that but would much rather be with you two as you would
rather be with her.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you
At 02:57 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
I am so sure would would love to be with you, but you are right, she
needs medical care right now. they will teach you to give fluids at
home and the medications she need. giving injections is so easy, Your
baby needs you to be strong and make the best
Thanks all,
Well I took Kisa to the emergency vet just now. It tears me up to have to
leave her there overnight, and possibly have her die away from home, but i'm
hoping that an IV will make her feel better. I don't know if she seems so
sick because of her disfunctioning liver and the
Hi Elizabeth,
I am catching up on my posts so forgive me for the
late reply. I am really curious about your furbaby.
You said that he was a kitten when he was diagnosed
with FeLV. Some kittens throw off the virus and live
healthy lives as a negative afterwards. When was the
last time you had
Sheila,
I am so sorry to hear about Charlie Brown. It sounds
like you are very in tune to what he wants and that's
a good thing. I am behind on emails so I'm not sure
if he's still with you. Prayers going out for both of
you.
:)
Wendy
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My Charlie Brown is
Unfortunately, its just an emergency vet, not an 24 hour vet. We don't have
any 24 hour vet clinics around here. So basically, the on-call vet will
probably only check on her when he happens to be at the clinic.
So i'm just praying she makes it through the night ok.
Cassandra
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At 04:03 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
What are they doing for her.
are they force feeding???Do they have labs to work off???How often
are they checking on her??Private email me if you can
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Unfortunately, its just an emergency vet, not an 24 hour vet. We
don't have any 24 hour
They are just putting her on IV for the night. I'm going to get the
previous blood test results and urinalysis from the other vet faxed over
tomorrow morning.
I imagine they will only check on her when the on-call vet is at the clinic.
This is the problem with kitties getting sick on the
At 04:54 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
Where are you located??? Are they going to insure she gets something
in her tummyPlease do not hesitate to be a very SQUEEKY WHEEL...
A good thing I have learned is always to ask for a copy of lab
results so they can always be hand carried and you have a spare
The small city I live near is only about 50 thousand people, with 3 vet
clinics. The bigger city is a 2.5 hour drive away. They may have a 24 hour
vet, but its not feasible to bring her there. Tomorrow isn't a holiday
here, we had our holiday last Monday.
There's nothing I can do to make
You can call THEM in the middle of the night ask how she is! That's
what I would do.
No, they will not insert a tube to tube feed her unless you ask them to.
They can't put in a naso-esophageal tube when she is vomiting, so the
only one that they can put in is one that bypasses the
At 05:41 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
Are you in Canada???Glad it is not a Holiday for you there,,they have
ways of getting food into the baby. Please reconsider a feeding
tube,,,until the crisis passes, There are 3 different types, One just
goes through the nose and is temporary, there is one
Yes I am in Canada, so i'm sure not all the drugs are the same, and
availability may differ.
I was using Chloropromazine for the vomiting, but it didn't work. I will
ask about those other drugs.
So vomiting will preclude having a feeding tube in the esophagus? If so,
that could be a
Well, I talked to the vet again..this vet does not sound so optimistic.
She is well hydrated, temp normal, had a bowel movement and that was
normal. They are syringe feeding. She's not neurologically normal
and is pretty non responsive, but no more seizures.
On 5/27/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL
At 07:17 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
It has been my experience that members in Canada have had trouble
getting the fluids to give at home .please private email me if I
can help...
thanks
Kelly
Yes I am in Canada, so i'm sure not all the drugs are the same, and
availability may differ.
No one seems to be able to tell me. I researched it some and it seems
to come from eating raw meat, such as mice?
But Caroline doesn't mouse...
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At 08:38 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
It should NOT be contagious
No one seems to be able to tell me. I researched it some and it seems
to come from eating raw meat, such as mice?
But Caroline doesn't mouse...
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http://www.rescuties.org
Vist
Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing
her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
Have you ever had a cat before that had seizures? My Paddy, who is
now 22, had one about
Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
dearly. They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet. She's being
monitored around the clock. I've called up there 5 times today
starting at 6 am and been there once.
On 5/27/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is
At 08:59 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
Good ,,keep 'em on their toes!!Keep us up to date please,,,
Kelly
Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
dearly. They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet. She's being
monitored around the clock. I've called up there
How does she respond to you?
Kelley Saveika wrote:
Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
dearly. They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet. She's being
monitored around the clock. I've called up there 5 times today
starting at 6 am and been there once.
Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
On 5/27/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does she respond to you?
Kelley Saveika wrote:
Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am
And her eyes are not reactive? At all?
If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?
P
Kelley Saveika wrote:
Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
On 5/27/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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