Genevieve
Well I took my beautiful girl to the clinic last night to get her on sub q fluids.Dr. Jen went out to check on her to see how bad she was.(she was not at work)she told me she fears the worse.That she may have fluid in her chest cavity.She warned me that when she sedates her that she may pass,or if there is fluid it would be best to let her go while already under. I am going out there this morning to see her before the sedation.My heart is so heavy right now I am sick.Please say a little prayer for my precious girl. Sherry - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
Re: Genevieve
Sherry I am so sorry your girl is not well. You were so good to take her in. Hugs Sally On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I took my beautiful girl to the clinic last night to get her on sub q fluids.Dr. Jen went out to check on her to see how bad she was.(she was not at work)she told me she fears the worse.That she may have fluid in her chest cavity.She warned me that when she sedates her that she may pass,or if there is fluid it would be best to let her go while already under. I am going out there this morning to see her before the sedation.My heart is so heavy right now I am sick.Please say a little prayer for my precious girl. Sherry -- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48251/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/?p=PASSPORTPLUS -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
Re: heartworm info
Thanks, Chris, it has been 3 yrs. since I have participated in this treatment for dogs. I just wish that every time I turn around there wasn't something else for me to worry about when it comes to my cats. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:05 PM Subject: RE: heartworm info Actually, following the Katrina debaucle, American Heartworm Association revised protocol. Now its 1 shot; wait a month; then 2 shots one day apart. Also protocol recommends treating with HW Prev meds PRIOR to shots in order to kill off larvae and make adult HW sterile. Finally, there is a parasite that lives inside the HW that it is now recommended be killed by doxyciclin injections prior to full HW treatment. These are nasty creatures. Problem is that they don’t really have a viable treatment for cats yet. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org
Re: Genevieve
Thank you Sally,I just got home from visiting with her and she looked so good!! I know she still has to make it through sedation and what the x-rays might show,but I have this tiny glimpse of hope that she will prevail again.She was purring for us when we scratched her face.Her fever was down that is why she felt more alert.Keep good thoughts please. Sherry Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry I am so sorry your girl is not well. You were so good to take her in. Hugs Sally On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I took my beautiful girl to the clinic last night to get her on sub q fluids.Dr. Jen went out to check on her to see how bad she was.(she was not at work)she told me she fears the worse.That she may have fluid in her chest cavity.She warned me that when she sedates her that she may pass,or if there is fluid it would be best to let her go while already under. I am going out there this morning to see her before the sedation.My heart is so heavy right now I am sick.Please say a little prayer for my precious girl. Sherry - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
Re: Genevieve
Sherry, I have been thinking about you both lately. I hope she will make it through. On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Sally,I just got home from visiting with her and she looked so good!! I know she still has to make it through sedation and what the x-rays might show,but I have this tiny glimpse of hope that she will prevail again.She was purring for us when we scratched her face.Her fever was down that is why she felt more alert.Keep good thoughts please. Sherry Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry I am so sorry your girl is not well. You were so good to take her in. Hugs Sally On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I took my beautiful girl to the clinic last night to get her on sub q fluids.Dr. Jen went out to check on her to see how bad she was.(she was not at work)she told me she fears the worse.That she may have fluid in her chest cavity.She warned me that when she sedates her that she may pass,or if there is fluid it would be best to let her go while already under. I am going out there this morning to see her before the sedation.My heart is so heavy right now I am sick.Please say a little prayer for my precious girl. Sherry Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: Genevieve
Sherry, I know of many CRF and heart kitties that have had fluid in their chest cavities and have survived, this is treatable, why would she not try treating? Just curious ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Sherry -- good thoughts coming for Genevieve, and for you. Diane R. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Genevieve
Hi Belinda,It is probably because of the felv. Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry, I know of many CRF and heart kitties that have had fluid in their chest cavities and have survived, this is treatable, why would she not try treating? Just curious ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Oh Sherry, I am so so so sorry for your loss. I know how much you loved her. Crying with you... On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: heartworm info
Susan, Thank you! I had treated a dog once for heartworms and until this discussion being opened up regarding heartworms in cats, had just assumed it would be about the same thing. I do not like giving my cats chemicals, each month, unless I might actually see a flea, for example. I was surprised to discover a cat cannot be treated for heartworms once infected by disease, the same as a dog. I did know cat's resistance was better and had always counted on that... I guess now, heartworms is becoming another thing we need to be worrying about for our cats...I'll be sharing this info. with friends... I do know heartworm disease in becoming more prevalent every year in the United States. The dog I dealt with was a dog I had rescued in Hawaii. He had a bad case. I had him treated and he became negative. I thought it would be the same for cats... In Hawaii, because the incidence of heartworms is so high, I did keep my dog on preventatives...I would do the same here, for dogs, on the mainland now, as it is getting so common... I will now be considering it for my cats next summer...Thanks, Glenda --- Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, Funny, we were also discussing heartworms on another list today. Here is a link that was sent to me, I have not reviewed it, so, let me know what you think. Susan - Found this website that seems to have loads of cat info on heartworm. The video/animation is pretty cool. http://www.heartwormsociety.org/article.asp?id=16 Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Sherry , My heart is breaking for you. I completely understand...I am so sorry for you and your little girl. Love from us here. Glenda --- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Sherry, I'm so sorry to hear about Genevieve. I'm glad you had a precious hour with her, where she knew how truly loved she was. Hy heart goes out to you. Please know I'm thinking of you. You are an angel for all you do, and all you go through, for the little souls that enter your life. much love and big hugs, Kerry _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now _ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47093/*http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 to see what's on, when. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Sherry, My thoughts are with you as you grieve. I'll be thinking of beautiful Genevieve today. She's at peace now. I hope your heart will find comfort knowing that you were such a wonderful and loving gift to her. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now _ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47093/*http:/tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 with an Edge to see what's on, when.
Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Sleep soft, dear Genevieve... Dear Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss and your heartache!! Bless you for giving this precious little girl your heart and your home for this last year. I am glad she had 12 hours of feeling better at the end, and that you were able to share one of them with her before the end. You are in my thoughts prayers. Thank you for all that you do for these kitties. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Sherry DeHaan wrote: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:02:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Thanks Melissa I think of her as a wonderful and loving gift to me!! :) Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Sherry, My thoughts are with you as you grieve. Ill be thinking of beautiful Genevieve today. Shes at peace now. I hope your heart will find comfort knowing that you were such a wonderful and loving gift to her. Melissa - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Dear Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss. Love never dies. Anita Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:17:27 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sherry , My heart is breaking for you. I completely understand...I am so sorry for you and your little girl. Love from us here. Glenda --- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ _ See what you’re getting into…before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507
Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
I am so very sorry, Sherry. Dede --- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
So true! I think we need them as much as they need us. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone Thanks Melissa I think of her as a wonderful and loving gift to me!! :) Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry, My thoughts are with you as you grieve. I'll be thinking of beautiful Genevieve today. She's at peace now. I hope your heart will find comfort knowing that you were such a wonderful and loving gift to her. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now _ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47093/*http:/tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 with an Edge to see what's on, when. _ Need a vacation? Get http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48256/*http:/travel.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFhN2hu cjlpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNncm91cHMEc2xrA2VtYWlsLW5jbQ-- great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
Pics of Genevieve
Here is a link to my album of this beautiful girl that I would like to share with you. http://www1.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=174181509/a=42609805_42609805/t_=42609805 - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: Pics of Genevieve
Sherry... I was eating my lunch and thought I'd go look at the pictures. I only saw the first one... but OH MY GOODNESS!! That picture could have been taken at MY house!! The one on the right (long hair tortie) looks like my Riley, the one closest to the front of the picture (orange) looks like my Jack... and the one of the left (black and white) looks like Maya... and the one in the back is the image of my Wheezie that I lost in February! I nearly fell off my chair when I opened the photo... This is not sorta similar... this is nearly idential cats!! I'm so sorry for your loss... it's never easy... and you never quite get over it. But she'll always be with you. On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a link to my album of this beautiful girl that I would like to share with you. http://www1.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=174181509/a=42609805_42609805/t_=42609805 -- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top pickshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48220/*http://tv.yahoo.com/on Yahoo! TV. -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
RE: Pics of Genevieve
She is so very beautiful. Thank you for sharing. Diane R. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
I am so sorry, Sherry. My thoughts are w/you and my felv+ babies send their love kitty prayers too. Blessings to sweet Genevieve, she is @ peace now. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now -- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
Re: Genevieve
Sherry I am so sorry for the loss of your sweet Genevieve. Thank you for all the work that you do for these dear kitties. Jane Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
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Re: Pics of Genevieve
Sherry, My god I'm so sorry about this precious Beautiful girl. She had Jen there to help her. God only knows what her life would have been like if she didn't come into yours. At least you were able to spend time with her before she left. She will be waiting for you when the time comes. (Many of you heard me say this numerous times over the course of years) I do believe that we will be joined with our furangels at the Bridge. I have to tell you I have one just like her. Her name is Bugs real name is Missy but she never took to it. It's almost like looking at identical kitties. My Bugs is 6 yrs old now. She is dainty and don't take no crap from the males in the home. Got fire in her butt. She was a rescue at the age 5 weeks when a local shelter closing down was going euthanized animals. I end up stealing her and her brother. He is a big long hair black boy when I say big he is big. (18 pounds) But afraid of a lot of things. Husband calls him Chickenshit but he is still his Beau(his name...second to Vinnie/Vincent the Balinese) Yes, I may be a Siamese Rescue but I have other kitties in my home besides Siamese. I send you lots of hugs and headbutts from my gang. Please take care of yourself as I know what your going through it is never easy losing one we love so much. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) _http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml_ (http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Hello everyone, My name is Megan. I'm a college student with three sibling cats, one of which was recently found to be FeLV-positive. We discovered this after Olive had a severe anemic episode last week all of the sudden and almost died. Her brother's blood was able to restore her, but how long this will last, we don't know. She has seemed happy and feeling well since the blood transfusion, but there's a feeling in my gut that tells me it's only a matter of time before she gets sick again, and I don't know what to do about that. Like I said, I'm a college student, and independent from my parents, which by default means I'm poor. My vet doesn't know much about treatment, but he is going to talk to the university's vet school. We are considering interferon, although to be honest, I don't know if I'd be able to give Olive shots everyday. I'm in quite a dilemma, because I want to do what I can for Olive. She is the sweetest, friendliest cat I have ever met. All of my friends love her and some of them are also pretty upset about her condition. Part of the dilemma is what to do about interaction with her siblings. I just had them tested (and vaccinated) today, and won't know the results until Thursday. I would assume that they are very likely to be infected as well, yet part of me thinks that they aren't, and the vet thought this, too. I had thought that maybe my boyfriend's cat had transmitted it to Olive, because he has some health problems, and therefore maybe only she was infected. But he tested negative today on the in-home test, so now I'm scared that Olive has had this since she was little, and therefore my other two probably have it as well. Unless, of course, they've developed immunity to it. So, there are my two problems: What to do with Olive, and what to do if my other two turn out negative. If they are all positive, then leaving them together isn't an issue; although then I'm also left with the horrible situation of having three FeLV-positive cats. If they turn out to be negative, I don't know how to separate them. I don't want to risk their lives by having them interact, yet I can't bear to give up Olive. I live in an apartment, so keeping them separate in my home isn't a great solution. If anyone has any suggestions, words of advice, etc., please let me know. I am completely distraught over this. Last night I could not sleep, and I'm already not caring about school, which just started. Thank you for reading this. Sorry it's so long... -Megan
OT: Terry: Chicken kitty
How funny, I have several non meezers in my House of Fur that are chickens, I got them when I worked @ AHS. I have 2 orange white chickens, the 'fraidiest one is Super Chicken but his real name is Boo Radley, (To Kill A Mockingbird). The other one is Chicken Boy, or Chick Chick, but his real name is Cipher Exemptus... My newest chicken, Hobbs, AKAS Peg Legs, is still hidin' out under the loveseat in the cat room... Here little chickchick..chick... :) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Pics of Genevieve Sherry, My god I'm so sorry about this precious Beautiful girl. She had Jen there to help her. God only knows what her life would have been like if she didn't come into yours. At least you were able to spend time with her before she left. She will be waiting for you when the time comes. (Many of you heard me say this numerous times over the course of years) I do believe that we will be joined with our furangels at the Bridge. I have to tell you I have one just like her. Her name is Bugs real name is Missy but she never took to it. It's almost like looking at identical kitties. My Bugs is 6 yrs old now. She is dainty and don't take no crap from the males in the home. Got fire in her butt. She was a rescue at the age 5 weeks when a local shelter closing down was going euthanized animals. I end up stealing her and her brother. He is a big long hair black boy when I say big he is big. (18 pounds) But afraid of a lot of things. Husband calls him Chickenshit but he is still his Beau(his name...second to Vinnie/Vincent the Balinese) Yes, I may be a Siamese Rescue but I have other kitties in my home besides Siamese. I send you lots of hugs and headbutts from my gang. Please take care of yourself as I know what your going through it is never easy losing one we love so much. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
Re: Pics of Genevieve
Hi Terrie and thank you for the kind words,I would love to see a pic of Bugs.My Genevieve had fire in her butt too.She never backed down to my boys.Of course my boys are sweet,but Tristan loved to rattle her.He will miss her too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry, My god I'm so sorry about this precious Beautiful girl. She had Jen there to help her. God only knows what her life would have been like if she didn't come into yours. At least you were able to spend time with her before she left. She will be waiting for you when the time comes. (Many of you heard me say this numerous times over the course of years) I do believe that we will be joined with our furangels at the Bridge. I have to tell you I have one just like her. Her name is Bugs real name is Missy but she never took to it. It's almost like looking at identical kitties. My Bugs is 6 yrs old now. She is dainty and don't take no crap from the males in the home. Got fire in her butt. She was a rescue at the age 5 weeks when a local shelter closing down was going euthanized animals. I end up stealing her and her brother. He is a big long hair black boy when I say big he is big. (18 pounds) But afraid of a lot of things. Husband calls him Chickenshit but he is still his Beau(his name...second to Vinnie/Vincent the Balinese) Yes, I may be a Siamese Rescue but I have other kitties in my home besides Siamese. I send you lots of hugs and headbutts from my gang. Please take care of yourself as I know what your going through it is never easy losing one we love so much. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml - Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.
Re: OT: Terry: Chicken kitty
That is too funny! I have to tell ya that I think it is funny when he comes around the corner and I purposely move my foot. It just cracks me up something fierce! ROTFLMAO!!! He literally goes straight up the air about3-4 feetLMAO!!! Yet I can call him and he comes back to me. I know that isn't nice but can't control myself at times. He is the only one I do that too but it's not all the time. Just when I'm thinking about it...it gets me in a better mood. In a message dated 8/28/2007 3:08:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How funny, I have several non meezers in my House of Fur that are chickens, I got them when I worked @ AHS. I have 2 orange white chickens, the 'fraidiest one is Super Chicken but his real name is Boo Radley, (To Kill A Mockingbird). The other one is Chicken Boy, or Chick Chick, but his real name is Cipher Exemptus... My newest chicken, Hobbs, AKAS Peg Legs, is still hidin' out under the loveseat in the cat room... Here little chickchick..chick... :) Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) _http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml_ (http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Megan, I understand exactly where you’re coming from! Two of my three babies were diagnosed with FeLV last week. After much agonizing and listening to sound advice from the very educated people here, I’ve decided to not separate them right now. You can probably gather a LOT of information if you’ll go to the _www.felinleukemia.org_ (http://www.felinleukemia.org/) website and read all the posts from the last week or so, as my situation was almost identical to yours. As for my personal opinion, I strongly recommend you try UT CVM if you can possibly afford it. You’ll need a referral from your usual vet to be seen there. Ask your vet to refer you to Internal Medicine. I actually got my two appointments September 11, and I’ll let everyone know how it goes when I get there. It seems like you and I must be pretty close! I live about 40 minutes from UT, but I work in Alcoa, probably 15 minutes away from the UT CVM. I really just think UT was the absolute best care I could give my cats, and so I didn't hesitate. From what I understand, they will see your kitties for a consult and to discuss treatment options, but most of the treatment and follow up will be through your local vet. Fortunately, my vet graduated from UT CVM, so he was very willing and eager to give me the referral. I think your doc would probably do the same if you asked. I think the important thing to remember is, and this came directly from the FeLV website, “Feline Leukemia is NOT a death sentence.” That was very important for me to hear that and know that. As for specific information, I’m sure everyone else, who knows a lot more than I do, will be more than willing to offer advice. As for support, hey, I’m very close by, feel free to email me any time you need/want to talk. I understand how devastated you feel right now, I was the same way on day one… almost hysterical L Do keep everyone informed, ok? Michael ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: OT: Terry: Chicken kitty
What's funny for me is when I catch the little group of chickens sleeping on my pillows on my bed. They obviously love me, (in their own selfish catway) and know I am the caregiver and the bringer of food water, Jonathan is the King of the Pride, (he gets ALL the toys delivered to HIS side of the bed @ night!). So, why are they still afraid after all this time? Here little chick chick...chickchickie...chickie (Practising my chicken call). Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: Re: OT: Terry: Chicken kitty That is too funny! I have to tell ya that I think it is funny when he comes around the corner and I purposely move my foot. It just cracks me up something fierce! ROTFLMAO!!! He literally goes straight up the air about3-4 feetLMAO!!! Yet I can call him and he comes back to me. I know that isn't nice but can't control myself at times. He is the only one I do that too but it's not all the time. Just when I'm thinking about it...it gets me in a better mood. In a message dated 8/28/2007 3:08:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How funny, I have several non meezers in my House of Fur that are chickens, I got them when I worked @ AHS. I have 2 orange white chickens, the 'fraidiest one is Super Chicken but his real name is Boo Radley, (To Kill A Mockingbird). The other one is Chicken Boy, or Chick Chick, but his real name is Cipher Exemptus... My newest chicken, Hobbs, AKAS Peg Legs, is still hidin' out under the loveseat in the cat room... Here little chickchick..chick... :) Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
Re: Pics of Genevieve
Okay, will send one directly to you. This was taken when she was thinned back soon due to being very hot that summer. I haven't uploaded them to any of my photo groups yet. In a message dated 8/28/2007 3:14:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Terrie and thank you for the kind words,I would love to see a pic of Bugs.My Genevieve had fire in her butt too.She never backed down to my boys.Of course my boys are sweet,but Tristan loved to rattle her.He will miss her too. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) _http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml_ (http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: Genevieve
Sorry to hear about Genevieve, sometimes it feels like this sorrow never ends.until you allow yourself to remember all the joy they brought to your life
Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Sherry, I too am very sorry about your beloved Genevieve. What a wonderful gift of love the two of you shared. I'm learning more and more on this site what others have said: the depth of our pain is in direct correlation with the depth of our love. Thinking of you and Genevieve tonight... :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02:09 AM Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
A CAUSE OF HYPER-T/more research on PBDE's and mattresses
:) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ~ ~~~ http://www.renewame rica.us/columns/ rogoff/070826 ~ ~~ I love my two very special Burmese cats, aged 12 and 14. That made it especially difficult to read about a new epidemic that is killing cats in their twilight years, caused by chemical flame retardants found in polyurethane foam used in sofa cushions and pillows. The HealthFinder. gov website explains that dust from polybromated diphenyl ethers (PBDE's) in foam-filled furniture, mattresses, carpets and electronic products causes hyperthyroidism in our feline companions, a deadly disease that includes increased appetite and weight loss. Because cats clean their fur frequently, they ingest these chemicals on a regular basis. I find myself in agreement. However, while it is admirable to live in a pet-centric world we forget that people live in same world and deserve the same protections as our feline friends. While our nation's legislators have been catnapping, a California law involving mattress fire retardants went into effect nationwide on July 1, 2007. Every mattress now has to meet the new California standards (codified as 16 CFR 1633) and pass what's known as the open- flame or blow-torch test, in order to be sold in the United States. Under the new law, every mattress sold must withstand a blowtorch flame two feet wide for 70 seconds and not ignite for 30 minutes. To achieve compliance, some bedding manufacturers have chosen to use fiber barriers in their mattress layers along with boric acid (roach killer). Others opt for spraying and inundating the mattresses with more potent and dangerous toxic chemicals. Mark Strobel is a small mattress manufacturer and the founder of People For Clean Beds. For years he has tried, unsuccessfully, to stop this legislation. Doctors and health practitioners have spoken out against the new law; even the lawyer who brought the case forward now has expressed misgivings about it. Rather than being commended for his efforts to educate the public about the dangers inherent in the chemicals used, Strobel has been criticized as a biased authority because he markets and sells his own line of chemical-free mattresses. Ironically, mattress workers are coming forward and admitting they are getting sick simply handling the new chemically- laden materials, but the S bedding giants such as Sealy, Serta and Simmons remain tight-lipped about the chemicals contained in their beds. Antimony Trioxide is a chemical with similar properties to arsenic and lead and is linked to heart damage, cancer and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. Decabromodiphenyl Oxide (Deca) is in the family of PBDE's, the same chemicals making cats sick. Both Antimony and Deca are known carcinogens that accumulate in body tissues; both are now among the many chemicals for allowed use in mattresses. Others are Silicon, Ammonium Polyphosphate, Melamine, and Formaldehyde. The new law does not require disclosure of what chemicals are contained in the mattresses so consumers are unaware whether their new beds will contain these toxins. People with chronic respiratory ailments and heart disease are most susceptible to the toxic effects. Since chemicals are absorbed slowly through the skin, we will sleep in a brew capable of causing allergic reactions such as headaches, rashes and nasal congestion today, but with long term exposure may lead to autoimmune disorders and cancer. The Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) has declared these chemicals safe, but the Department of Health and Human Services Agency for Toxic Substances Disease Registry has reported numerous health problems with exposure to antimony, indicated in this report. An independent group, www.tera.org, conducted a review which found significant problems, errors, and omissions with the CPSC report. The CPSC excluded children under age five from the risk assessment. The assumption is that children will be protected by vinyl mattress covers. The CPSC also knew about the dangers of formaldehyde but omitted their original findings in a later 2006 report. The most important government findings reported by the People For Clean Beds organization are the following: When pressed by an independent reviewer about the cancer risk from Antimony Trioxide the CPSC admits: The cancer effects are cumulative. Every exposure contributes to the overall lifetime risk of cancer. These chemicals are absorbed by our bodies from mattresses in significant amounts. We will absorb a daily dose of poisons of .802 mg Antimony, .081 mg Boric Acid, and .073 mg. DBDO. The CPSC says on page 40 of their report: As with any risk assessment, there are assumptions, limitations, and sources of uncertainty. ...it should be noted that percutaneous
OT: A CAUSE OF HYPER-T/another article
:) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ The article pointed to another website: http://www.everyday health.com/ publicsite/ ShowArticle. aspx? IsP=news/607/ news607358. xmlcen=HC: %20IBS which has more information on specific research. ~~ Chemical Flame Retardants Linked to Thyroid Disease in Cats Print This Page Send to a Friend Published: 08/15/07 WEDNESDAY, Aug. 15 (HealthDay News) -- A mysterious epidemic of thyroid disease in pet cats in the United States may be due to dust from fire-retardant chemicals used in carpets, furniture, mattresses, electronic products and even pet food, researchers report. And while the researchers said there's no evidence to suggest a threat to humans posed by the chemicals -- called polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDEs) -- they can't rule out the possibility. Cats are very highly exposed to these chemicals, and the levels in cats are higher than the levels in people, said researcher Linda S. Birnbaum, director of the Experimental Toxicology Division at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. But cats may be a good indicator of indoor exposure to humans, she added. Symptoms of hyperthyroidism in cats include weight loss, increased appetite, hair loss and irritability. Hyperthyroid cats could serve as modern-day versions of the canaries in coal mines that alerted miners to poisonous gas, said Birnbaum, who added that hyperthyroidism is treatable in cats as well as people. Feline hyperthyroidism is one of the most common and deadly diseases in older cats, and indoor pets are thought to be at greatest risk, Birnbaum said. Because of their conscientious grooming, cats ingest large amounts of house dust containing PBDEs. Concerns about health effects from PDBEs began in the late 1990s, and studies have found that the chemicals cause liver and nerve toxicity in animals. In addition, a recent study found an association with house dust and the levels of PDBEs in breast milk in women, Birnbaum said. Many PBDEs, such as penta, which was used in polyurethane foam for furniture cushions and pillows, have been phased out either voluntarily by manufacturers or by bans from states and the U.S. government and governments overseas. Despite these bans, BBDEs are environmentally persistent compounds, so it will take a long time before they disappear from the environment, Birnbaum said. She noted that the EPA is looking for safer alternatives to some of the chemicals that will be fire resistant but not pose a potential health threat to animals or humans. So far, 14 alternative flame retardants have been evaluated, and furniture foam manufacturers are using new alternatives, according to the EPA. In the new study, published in the Aug. 15 online issue of Environmental Science Technology, Birnbaum and her colleagues took blood samples from 23 cats, 11 of which suffered from hyperthyroidism. They found that the cats with the disease had levels of PDBEs that were three times higher than younger cats and cats without the condition. PBDEs are also found in canned cat food, particularly in fish/seafood flavors, such as salmon and whitefish. An analysis showed that diets based on canned food could have PBDE levels 12 times higher than dry- food diets. For these reasons, cats could be receiving as much as 100 times greater dietary PBDE exposure than American adults, the researchers said. The danger of feline hyperthyroidism might be higher in the United States, where people have the highest reported PBDE levels worldwide, according to the report. In addition, by the late 1990s, North America accounted for almost half of the worldwide demand for PBDEs for commercial materials such as furniture and upholstery. The epidemic of hyperthyroidism in cats began almost 30 years ago, experts say, at the same time that PBDEs were introduced into household materials for fire-prevention. Now the disease has been seen in Canada, Australia, Japan and many parts of Europe. Hyperthyroidism has also increased in people. For example, former President George H.W. Bush and First Lady Barbara Bush have the condition, as does Millie, their Springer Spaniel. More information For more information on PBDEs, visit the Washington State Department on Ecology. --- In feline-hyperT@ yahoogroups. com, swierzop [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: I was just sent this article. It makes perfect sense. My vet says that Hyper-T tends to run in the same households.. ..and they didn't know why...now it looks like they do. I'm sorry but the article points to a correlation between specific poisons and the epidemic of hyper-t. To show a cause you'd have to show HOW it is achieved, and that has not been done. This article is no different than the one showing a correlation between the use of litter boxes and hyper-t. Or the
To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Megan, Hi and welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come to the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist. I hope this evening finds you better off than last night. Michael is right...going to the website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most current archives is a very good idea. There is so much to learn and lot of good, intelligent people here to help you. Retesting with the IFA after a positive ELISA (in-house) test is important. ELISA can give false positives/negatives. However, since Olive already is dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct. However, all of your kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so don't give up hope that one day they will be negative. I would retest every 3-6 months (probably 6, since it's less stressful on them to travel and test less often). About 30-40% of cats who are exposed will throw off the virus, which means that if all three were exposed as kittens, which is the most likely scenario for exposure, then the other two may be negative. I'm betting at least one of them is, considering the numbers. I will not sugar-coat things...anemia is bad for FeLV+ kitties. It's fatal a lot of the time, BUT we have seen kitties here who got through the anemia with things like transfusions and meds to help stimulate red blood cell production (mainly prednisolone). The transfusion will wear off. I think it lasts about 10 days, give or take. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Did the vet give you any meds to give Olive? She needs help in getting her RBC's going again. Did the vet say she has regenerative or non-regenerative anemia? Do you happen to have a copy of the bloodwork results done on Olive? If not, can you get them to send you one electronically or pick one up to post here? The BIG thing you need to know about is Hemobartonella. Did your vet mention putting Olive on a three week dose of Doxycycline. Hemobart is very difficult to see on a slide, so difficult to diagnose. One minute the blood parasite is there, the next it's not. So the majority of vets usually dose with doxy when they see anemia in an felv+ cat. Hemobart has a much higher presence in FeLV+ kitties. If it is hemobart, that's a good thing Megan. It means you have a much better chance of saving Olive. But you have to get her the meds asap. And be firm with your vet about the doxy. If your vet has not touched on any of these things I'm telling you, find another vet asap. You need someone who is willing to work with you to save Olive. Not make money off of you and not immediately suggest pts at the first sign of a positive FeLV test. Michael's suggestion of getting a referral to UT is a great idea. I'm concerned that the vet did not tell you that the transfusion was just a temporary fix. It treats the symptom, not the problem. Some people do treat with Interferon. I would post a question with that in the subject line and you will get more specific responses regarding that specific treatment. Interferon will not treat anemia though. It helps the immune system stay strong so the virus doesn't kick in. The two most important things you can do to keep your kitties healthy and the virus from 'kicking in' or activating is to feed them a high quality diet, one with no grains, like Innova Evo or the like. Add immune boosting supplements like lysine to the food. Lysine must not have the additive Propylene Glycol in the ingredients as it causes Heinz body anemia in cats. The other thing is to keep your kitties as stress-free as possible. New additions to the family, long vacations and especially boarding, moving, environmental factors like heat, a lot of company, and loud noises are all some things that can stress kitties out. Also, your kitties have already been exposed, so separating them at this point is only going to stress them out further, something you don't want. I would not separate. I did not separate mine (I had four, one positive; the other three never became positive after four years sharing the same food/water bowls and litter boxes). Try not to stress out too much Megan, so Olive will not pick up on it. Do as well as you can in your studies even though you are dealing with this, and enjoy every minute you have with Olive. Take photos of her so in case the worst happens, you have a visual memory of her. I am not trying to scare you; just trying to give realistic advice. You can't know what's in store for Olive in the near future. Prepare for the worst, but hope and PRAY for the best. And please keep us posted and ask anymore questions you may have. :) Wendy Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Megan, The vet program at your school could be a real help. I am so sorry that you are going through this, especially with school just starting. It has to be horribly stressful for you... The most important thing, right now, is that you stay strong and remain focused. No matter what, you have to be the strong one to take care of your cats...You cannot afford to let this affect your school performance. If you start slipping in school, you will sink into a depression and just start feeling overwhelmed... You did the best thing, so far, by all of your kitties. You got everyone vaccinated and you found this group. Any questions you have, will be answered here and the emotional support here is the best. Everyone here understands. A couple months ago I got the news my kitty was FeLV positive. I have absorbed a lot of information on how to better take care of my cats since that day. The people here gave me the hope , support and information I needed to arm myself against this scary disease Like Michael just told you: FeLV is not a death sentence for your positive kitty. This site is way ahead of most vets, with current information on FeLV, so trust the people here who take care of their FeLV+ kitties every day to know what they are talking about...Again, I am very sorry...but as you will learn , sometimes a cat can even fight off the virus...it happens... We will be with you every step of the way. You and your kitties have lots of loving, informed, aunts and uncles here...Glenda --- Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, My name is Megan. I'm a college student with three sibling cats, one of which was recently found to be FeLV-positive. We discovered this after Olive had a severe anemic episode last week all of the sudden and almost died. Her brother's blood was able to restore her, but how long this will last, we don't know. She has seemed happy and feeling well since the blood transfusion, but there's a feeling in my gut that tells me it's only a matter of time before she gets sick again, and I don't know what to do about that. Like I said, I'm a college student, and independent from my parents, which by default means I'm poor. My vet doesn't know much about treatment, but he is going to talk to the university's vet school. We are considering interferon, although to be honest, I don't know if I'd be able to give Olive shots everyday. I'm in quite a dilemma, because I want to do what I can for Olive. She is the sweetest, friendliest cat I have ever met. All of my friends love her and some of them are also pretty upset about her condition. Part of the dilemma is what to do about interaction with her siblings. I just had them tested (and vaccinated) today, and won't know the results until Thursday. I would assume that they are very likely to be infected as well, yet part of me thinks that they aren't, and the vet thought this, too. I had thought that maybe my boyfriend's cat had transmitted it to Olive, because he has some health problems, and therefore maybe only she was infected. But he tested negative today on the in-home test, so now I'm scared that Olive has had this since she was little, and therefore my other two probably have it as well. Unless, of course, they've developed immunity to it. So, there are my two problems: What to do with Olive, and what to do if my other two turn out negative. If they are all positive, then leaving them together isn't an issue; although then I'm also left with the horrible situation of having three FeLV-positive cats. If they turn out to be negative, I don't know how to separate them. I don't want to risk their lives by having them interact, yet I can't bear to give up Olive. I live in an apartment, so keeping them separate in my home isn't a great solution. If anyone has any suggestions, words of advice, etc., please let me know. I am completely distraught over this. Last night I could not sleep, and I'm already not caring about school, which just started. Thank you for reading this. Sorry it's so long... -Megan Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz
RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Having just gone through this recently and losing Monkee to anemia/FelV, I can provide this: Blood transfusion: wears off in 10 days, if not less. Signs of it wearing off are pretty clear: lack of energy, less moving around, white gums/nose (Monkee's nose was "perfect pink" and when his transfusion wore off, it was white-white), not eating/eating less. You need to enjoy the time you have with her now that she's had a transfusion, but PREPARE in advance for it to wear off. You need to consider now whether you will do another one. There may not be time to think about that when the time comes. The only thing I regret about Monkee's situation and passing is that the transfusion wore off and I thought maybe his body would make red blood cells on it's ownand it didn't, so he went downhill very rapidly. You need to know that if the cat's body is not making it's own RBCs and the transfusion wears off, the cat experiences dizziness, vertigo, shortness of breath and maybe trouble breathing. I am not trying to be harsh here, just telling you what a cat will feel so that you can try to put yourself in that position to truly understand. The slightest movement may cause them dizziness and distress. In Monkee's final days/hours, all he wanted to do was lay in my closest (which he had never done before) on top of all my shoes; he didn't sleep, his eyes were always open and dilated and he would stare into space (which he had never done before until the anemia set in). Only in the final hours did he occasionally cry out like he had never done before (my mom and I believe it was because he felt like he wanted to do something, like go out on his porch, and he'd tried to move to do it, but wouldn't get far because of the shortness of breath/dizziness and he would get frustrated and angry and would emit the "cry." It broke my heart). He only had about 30 secs of respiratory distress while I held him and then he passed in my arms. I do indeed hope this is not the path you and your sweet cat take. From my own experience in July, I provide you these "words of wisdom": Watch for signs of a worsening of her symptoms; prepare for them; and admit to yourself when you see them (fight off the denial)-- those are the only things you can do so as to try to do what is best for your cat and that is what we all want. Anemia is a horrible way for them to suffer. Interferon: Injections? I was able to give Monkee oral interferon that had been ordered through a pharmacy via the telephone- I think it was Wedgwood Pharmacy? Your Vet calls in the prescription, then you call to order and pay for it. It's delivered in the mail- has to be refrigerated. And yes, this is only an immune booster that I believe Monkee was taking more for his Lymphosarcoma (cancer brought on by FelV); but once the anemia took over and became his most pressing problem, we stopped the interferon. Best of luck to you. -Caroline From:wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't know what to do.Date:Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:19:08 -0700 (PDT)Megan,Hi and welcome to the group.I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come to the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist.I hope this evening finds you better off than last night.Michael is right...going to the website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most current archives is a very good idea.There is so much to learn and lot of good, intelligent people here to help you.Retesting with the IFA after a positive ELISA (in-house) test is important.ELISA can give false positives/negatives.However, since Olive already is dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct.However, all of your kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so don't give up hope that one day they will be negative.I would retest every 3-6 months (probably 6, since it's less stressful on them to travel and test less often).About 30-40% of cats who are exposed will throw off the virus, which means that if all three were exposed as kittens, which is the most likely scenario for exposure, then the other two may be negative.I'm betting at least one of them is, considering the numbers.I will not sugar-coat things...anemia is bad for FeLV+ kitties.It's fatal a lot of the time, BUT we have seen kitties here who got through the anemia with things like transfusions and meds to help stimulate red blood cell production (mainly prednisolone).The transfusion will wear off.I think it lasts about 10 days, give or take.Someone correct me if I'm wrong.Did the vet give you any meds to give Olive?She needs help in getting her RBC's going again.Did the vet say she has regenerative or non-regenerative anemia?Do you happen to have a copy of the bloodwork results done on Olive?If not, can you get them to send you one electronically or pick one up to post here?The BIG thing you need to know about is
Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Just so you know, some vets carry the oral interferon. The vets I have in Louisville keep it on hand. If you decide on this you may want to call around. A month's supply runs about $10. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't know what to do. Having just gone through this recently and losing Monkee to anemia/FelV, I can provide this: Blood transfusion: wears off in 10 days, if not less. Signs of it wearing off are pretty clear: lack of energy, less moving around, white gums/nose (Monkee's nose was perfect pink and when his transfusion wore off, it was white-white), not eating/eating less. You need to enjoy the time you have with her now that she's had a transfusion, but PREPARE in advance for it to wear off. You need to consider now whether you will do another one. There may not be time to think about that when the time comes. The only thing I regret about Monkee's situation and passing is that the transfusion wore off and I thought maybe his body would make red blood cells on it's own and it didn't, so he went downhill very rapidly. You need to know that if the cat's body is not making it's own RBCs and the transfusion wears off, the cat experiences dizziness, vertigo, shortness of breath and maybe trouble breathing. I am not trying to be harsh here, just telling you what a cat will feel so that you can try to put yourself in that position to truly understand. The slightest movement may cause them dizziness and distress. In Monkee's final days/hours, all he wanted to do was lay in my closest (which he had never done before) on top of all my shoes; he didn't sleep, his eyes were always open and dilated and he would stare into space (which he had never done before until the anemia set in). Only in the final hours did he occasionally cry out like he had never done before (my mom and I believe it was because he felt like he wanted to do something, like go out on his porch, and he'd tried to move to do it, but wouldn't get far because of the shortness of breath/dizziness and he would get frustrated and angry and would emit the cry. It broke my heart). He only had about 30 secs of respiratory distress while I held him and then he passed in my arms. I do indeed hope this is not the path you and your sweet cat take. From my own experience in July, I provide you these words of wisdom: Watch for signs of a worsening of her symptoms; prepare for them; and admit to yourself when you see them (fight off the denial)-- those are the only things you can do so as to try to do what is best for your cat and that is what we all want. Anemia is a horrible way for them to suffer. Interferon: Injections? I was able to give Monkee oral interferon that had been ordered through a pharmacy via the telephone- I think it was Wedgwood Pharmacy? Your Vet calls in the prescription, then you call to order and pay for it. It's delivered in the mail- has to be refrigerated. And yes, this is only an immune booster that I believe Monkee was taking more for his Lymphosarcoma (cancer brought on by FelV); but once the anemia took over and became his most pressing problem, we stopped the interferon. Best of luck to you. -Caroline From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't know what to do. Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Megan, Hi and welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come to the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist. I hope this evening finds you better off than last night. Michael is right...going to the website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most current archives is a very good idea. There is so much to learn and lot of good, intelligent people here to help you. Retesting with the IFA after a positive ELISA (in-house) test is important. ELISA can give false positives/negatives. However, since Olive already is dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct. However, all of your kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so don't give up hope that one day they will be negative. I would retest every 3-6
Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral. Have I missed something all these years...? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't know what to do. Just so you know, some vets carry the oral interferon. The vets I have in Louisville keep it on hand. If you decide on this you may want to call around. A month's supply runs about $10. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't know what to do. Having just gone through this recently and losing Monkee to anemia/FelV, I can provide this: Blood transfusion: wears off in 10 days, if not less. Signs of it wearing off are pretty clear: lack of energy, less moving around, white gums/nose (Monkee's nose was perfect pink and when his transfusion wore off, it was white-white), not eating/eating less. You need to enjoy the time you have with her now that she's had a transfusion, but PREPARE in advance for it to wear off. You need to consider now whether you will do another one. There may not be time to think about that when the time comes. The only thing I regret about Monkee's situation and passing is that the transfusion wore off and I thought maybe his body would make red blood cells on it's own and it didn't, so he went downhill very rapidly. You need to know that if the cat's body is not making it's own RBCs and the transfusion wears off, the cat experiences dizziness, vertigo, shortness of breath and maybe trouble breathing. I am not trying to be harsh here, just telling you what a cat will feel so that you can try to put yourself in that position to truly understand. The slightest movement may cause them dizziness and distress. In Monkee's final days/hours, all he wanted to do was lay in my closest (which he had never done before) on top of all my shoes; he didn't sleep, his eyes were always open and dilated and he would stare into space (which he had never done before until the anemia set in). Only in the final hours did he occasionally cry out like he had never done before (my mom and I believe it was because he felt like he wanted to do something, like go out on his porch, and he'd tried to move to do it, but wouldn't get far because of the shortness of breath/dizziness and he would get frustrated and angry and would emit the cry. It broke my heart). He only had about 30 secs of respiratory distress while I held him and then he passed in my arms. I do indeed hope this is not the path you and your sweet cat take. From my own experience in July, I provide you these words of wisdom: Watch for signs of a worsening of her symptoms; prepare for them; and admit to yourself when you see them (fight off the denial)-- those are the only things you can do so as to try to do what is best for your cat and that is what we all want. Anemia is a horrible way for them to suffer. Interferon: Injections? I was able to give Monkee oral interferon that had been ordered through a pharmacy via the telephone- I think it was Wedgwood Pharmacy? Your Vet calls in the prescription, then you call to order and pay for it. It's delivered in the mail- has to be refrigerated. And yes, this is only an immune booster that I believe Monkee was taking more for his Lymphosarcoma (cancer brought on by FelV); but once the anemia took over and became his most pressing problem, we stopped the interferon. Best of luck to you. -Caroline -- From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't know what to do. Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Megan, Hi and
Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Ahhh., Megan, you have already had some wonderful advice fromWendy, Michael Caroline (did I miss anyone? Sorry if I did). There is nothing that I can add to their words of wisdom except, once again, I will say, You need to take care of yourself, and don't forget to breathe. We have all been through what you are experiencing, and you are among friends. Take care please keep us posted. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do. Hello everyone, My name is Megan. I'm a college student with three sibling cats, one of which was recently found to be FeLV-positive. We discovered this after Olive had a severe anemic episode last week all of the sudden and almost died. Her brother's blood was able to restore her, but how long this will last, we don't know. She has seemed happy and feeling well since the blood transfusion, but there's a feeling in my gut that tells me it's only a matter of time before she gets sick again, and I don't know what to do about that. Like I said, I'm a college student, and independent from my parents, which by default means I'm poor. My vet doesn't know much about treatment, but he is going to talk to the university's vet school. We are considering interferon, although to be honest, I don't know if I'd be able to give Olive shots everyday. I'm in quite a dilemma, because I want to do what I can for Olive. She is the sweetest, friendliest cat I have ever met. All of my friends love her and some of them are also pretty upset about her condition. Part of the dilemma is what to do about interaction with her siblings. I just had them tested (and vaccinated) today, and won't know the results until Thursday. I would assume that they are very likely to be infected as well, yet part of me thinks that they aren't, and the vet thought this, too. I had thought that maybe my boyfriend's cat had transmitted it to Olive, because he has some health problems, and therefore maybe only she was infected. But he tested negative today on the in-home test, so now I'm scared that Olive has had this since she was little, and therefore my other two probably have it as well. Unless, of course, they've developed immunity to it. So, there are my two problems: What to do with Olive, and what to do if my other two turn out negative. If they are all positive, then leaving them together isn't an issue; although then I'm also left with the horrible situation of having three FeLV-positive cats. If they turn out to be negative, I don't know how to separate them. I don't want to risk their lives by having them interact, yet I can't bear to give up Olive. I live in an apartment, so keeping them separate in my home isn't a great solution. If anyone has any suggestions, words of advice, etc., please let me know. I am completely distraught over this. Last night I could not sleep, and I'm already not caring about school, which just started. Thank you for reading this. Sorry it's so long... -Megan
RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Olive actually did test negative on the ELISA test, although it wasn't a strong negative. The IFA was done twice and came up positive both times. We skipped the ELISA test on my other two, and instead are having the blood shipped to the vet school for the IFA. I don't think that my vet seems to know a whole lot about FeLV, really. He hasn't really given me any options as to what to do with Olive. He may be under the impression that it's a lost cause. He gave me amoxidrop, but I don't know if that's even helping. He didn't say what type of anemia it was, although I would assume it's non-regenerative. He is aware of Hemobartonella, but I don't think he seemed too concerned about it. I'm going to call tomorrow and hopefully get more answers. I knew the transfusion wouldn't last long, but I didn't realize that it would only be for about a week. I will try to get Doxycylcine, as well as a consultation at the vet school. Now I'm scared that I'm too late to help her. If need be, I can do another transfusion, although last time we had to get blood from one of my other cats, and I hate putting them at risk. I will try to talk to other vets if mine proves unhelpful. Thank you for your input, and thanks to everyone else, as well. You all are giving me hope, even it's just a little bit. -Megan = Original Message From wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Megan, Hi and welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come to the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist. I hope this evening finds you better off than last night. Michael is right...going to the website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most current archives is a very good idea. There is so much to learn and lot of good, intelligent people here to help you. Retesting with the IFA after a positive ELISA (in-house) test is important. ELISA can give false positives/negatives. However, since Olive already is dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct. However, all of your kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so don't give up hope that one day they will be negative. I would retest every 3-6 months (probably 6, since it's less stressful on them to travel and test less often). About 30-40% of cats who are exposed will throw off the virus, which means that if all three were exposed as kittens, which is the most likely scenario for exposure, then the other two may be negative. I'm betting at least one of them is, considering the numbers. I will not sugar-coat things...anemia is bad for FeLV+ kitties. It's fatal a lot of the time, BUT we have seen kitties here who got through the anemia with things like transfusions and meds to help stimulate red blood cell production (mainly prednisolone). The transfusion will wear off. I think it lasts about 10 days, give or take. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Did the vet give you any meds to give Olive? She needs help in getting her RBC's going again. Did the vet say she has regenerative or non-regenerative anemia? Do you happen to have a copy of the bloodwork results done on Olive? If not, can you get them to send you one electronically or pick one up to post here? The BIG thing you need to know about is Hemobartonella. Did your vet mention putting Olive on a three week dose of Doxycycline. Hemobart is very difficult to see on a slide, so difficult to diagnose. One minute the blood parasite is there, the next it's not. So the majority of vets usually dose with doxy when they see anemia in an felv+ cat. Hemobart has a much higher presence in FeLV+ kitties. If it is hemobart, that's a good thing Megan. It means you have a much better chance of saving Olive. But you have to get her the meds asap. And be firm with your vet about the doxy. If your vet has not touched on any of these things I'm telling you, find another vet asap. You need someone who is willing to work with you to save Olive. Not make money off of you and not immediately suggest pts at the first sign of a positive FeLV test. Michael's suggestion of getting a referral to UT is a great idea. I'm concerned that the vet did not tell you that the transfusion was just a temporary fix. It treats the symptom, not the problem. Some people do treat with Interferon. I would post a question with that in the subject line and you will get more specific responses regarding that specific treatment. Interferon will not treat anemia though. It helps the immune system stay strong so the virus doesn't kick in. The two most important things you can do to keep your kitties healthy and the virus from 'kicking in' or activating is to feed them a high quality diet, one with no grains, like Innova Evo or the like. Add immune boosting supplements like lysine to the food. Lysine must not have the additive Propylene Glycol in the ingredients as it causes Heinz body anemia in cats. The other thing is to keep your kitties as stress-free as possible. New
To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Well, Megan, I could be the one who is wrong. I have just never heard of Interferon shots, just oral. Someone will be popping in to let us know,there is LOTS of great experience on this list.. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do. Apparently my vet doesn't know what he's talking about... That kind of scares me. I think shots may exist, but he told me they'd have to be given every so often and then every single day. My other two cats, who were vaccinated today, keep randomly yowling. I have no idea why... = Original Message From Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral. Have I missed something all these years...? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent
Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Probably close to 4 years ago I mentioned interferon to my vet... He had never worked with an FeLV+ cat before... He had used it with cows before and it was given IV to them... He grabbed his medical book and there were words in there about giving it both ways to cats but he decided that with the smaller animal oral was preferred My vet has been in practice for 30 years but he is still willing to learn an he pays attention when I hear of something new on hear... There may be better vets in the world but I doubt if there is any that will meet me himself in the middle of the night in 10 minutes... That's worth a lot when finding a vet as well as one that is willing to work with FeLV Tad Susan Dubose wrote: Well, Megan, I could be the one who is wrong. I have just never heard of Interferon shots, just oral. Someone will be popping in to let us know,there is LOTS of great experience on this list.. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do. Apparently my vet doesn't know what he's talking about... That kind of scares me. I think shots may exist, but he told me they'd have to be given every so often and then every single day. My other two cats, who were vaccinated today, keep randomly yowling. I have no idea why... = Original Message From Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral. Have I missed something all these years...? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent
Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Thanks, Tad, and you are right. Willingness to learn in order to help patient client makes them worth their weight in gold. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't know what to do. Probably close to 4 years ago I mentioned interferon to my vet... He had never worked with an FeLV+ cat before... He had used it with cows before and it was given IV to them... He grabbed his medical book and there were words in there about giving it both ways to cats but he decided that with the smaller animal oral was preferred My vet has been in practice for 30 years but he is still willing to learn an he pays attention when I hear of something new on hear... There may be better vets in the world but I doubt if there is any that will meet me himself in the middle of the night in 10 minutes... That's worth a lot when finding a vet as well as one that is willing to work with FeLV Tad Susan Dubose wrote: Well, Megan, I could be the one who is wrong. I have just never heard of Interferon shots, just oral. Someone will be popping in to let us know,there is LOTS of great experience on this list.. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do. Apparently my vet doesn't know what he's talking about... That kind of scares me. I think shots may exist, but he told me they'd have to be given every so often and then every single day. My other two cats, who were vaccinated today, keep randomly yowling. I have no idea why... = Original Message From Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral. Have I missed something all these years...? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent
Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
I should add that he was one that initially recommended PTS when the test was pos... When I said I can't do that he was quick to talk about keeping them... They are special needs cats and a good vet needs to know that the caretaker is ready for that... Tad Susan Dubose wrote: Thanks, Tad, and you are right. Willingness to learn in order to help patient client makes them worth their weight in gold. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com http://www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org http://www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net http://www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't know what to do. Probably close to 4 years ago I mentioned interferon to my vet... He had never worked with an FeLV+ cat before... He had used it with cows before and it was given IV to them... He grabbed his medical book and there were words in there about giving it both ways to cats but he decided that with the smaller animal oral was preferred My vet has been in practice for 30 years but he is still willing to learn an he pays attention when I hear of something new on hear... There may be better vets in the world but I doubt if there is any that will meet me himself in the middle of the night in 10 minutes... That's worth a lot when finding a vet as well as one that is willing to work with FeLV Tad Susan Dubose wrote: Well, Megan, I could be the one who is wrong. I have just never heard of Interferon shots, just oral. Someone will be popping in to let us know,there is LOTS of great experience on this list.. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do. Apparently my vet doesn't know what he's talking about... That kind of scares me. I think shots may exist, but he told me they'd have to be given every so often and then every single day. My other two cats, who were vaccinated today, keep randomly yowling. I have no idea why... = Original Message From Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral. Have I missed something all these years...? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent
RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.
Don't know if it would help but my Tucson has had a couple of episodes of very low white blood count. Vet gave her a series of immune-regulin shots and it did perk her back up pretty quickly. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan Heikkinen Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do. Olive actually did test negative on the ELISA test, although it wasn't a strong negative. The IFA was done twice and came up positive both times. We skipped the ELISA test on my other two, and instead are having the blood shipped to the vet school for the IFA. I don't think that my vet seems to know a whole lot about FeLV, really. He hasn't really given me any options as to what to do with Olive. He may be under the impression that it's a lost cause. He gave me amoxidrop, but I don't know if that's even helping. He didn't say what type of anemia it was, although I would assume it's non-regenerative. He is aware of Hemobartonella, but I don't think he seemed too concerned about it. I'm going to call tomorrow and hopefully get more answers. I knew the transfusion wouldn't last long, but I didn't realize that it would only be for about a week. I will try to get Doxycylcine, as well as a consultation at the vet school. Now I'm scared that I'm too late to help her. If need be, I can do another transfusion, although last time we had to get blood from one of my other cats, and I hate putting them at risk. I will try to talk to other vets if mine proves unhelpful. Thank you for your input, and thanks to everyone else, as well. You all are giving me hope, even it's just a little bit. -Megan = Original Message From wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Megan, Hi and welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come to the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist. I hope this evening finds you better off than last night. Michael is right...going to the website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most current archives is a very good idea. There is so much to learn and lot of good, intelligent people here to help you. Retesting with the IFA after a positive ELISA (in-house) test is important. ELISA can give false positives/negatives. However, since Olive already is dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct. However, all of your kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so don't give up hope that one day they will be negative. I would retest every 3-6 months (probably 6, since it's less stressful on them to travel and test less often). About 30-40% of cats who are exposed will throw off the virus, which means that if all three were exposed as kittens, which is the most likely scenario for exposure, then the other two may be negative. I'm betting at least one of them is, considering the numbers. I will not sugar-coat things...anemia is bad for FeLV+ kitties. It's fatal a lot of the time, BUT we have seen kitties here who got through the anemia with things like transfusions and meds to help stimulate red blood cell production (mainly prednisolone). The transfusion will wear off. I think it lasts about 10 days, give or take. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Did the vet give you any meds to give Olive? She needs help in getting her RBC's going again. Did the vet say she has regenerative or non-regenerative anemia? Do you happen to have a copy of the bloodwork results done on Olive? If not, can you get them to send you one electronically or pick one up to post here? The BIG thing you need to know about is Hemobartonella. Did your vet mention putting Olive on a three week dose of Doxycycline. Hemobart is very difficult to see on a slide, so difficult to diagnose. One minute the blood parasite is there, the next it's not. So the majority of vets usually dose with doxy when they see anemia in an felv+ cat. Hemobart has a much higher presence in FeLV+ kitties. If it is hemobart, that's a good thing Megan. It means you have a much better chance of saving Olive. But you have to get her the meds asap. And be firm with your vet about the doxy. If your vet has not touched on any of these things I'm telling you, find another vet asap. You need someone who is willing to work with you to save Olive. Not make money off of you and not immediately suggest pts at the first sign of a positive FeLV test. Michael's suggestion of getting a referral to UT is a great idea. I'm concerned that the vet did not tell you that the transfusion was just a temporary fix. It treats the symptom, not the problem. Some people do treat with Interferon. I would post a question with
OT: The Good Cat Food Guide?
Has anyone read this book? It came out last fall, it's about 160+ pages (small ) and only about $15. Just curious. ( I HAVE to stay out of the online bookstores! :) The Good Cat Food Guide (Hardcover) by Rosemary Gasson (Author), Andrew Gasson (Author), Kevin Oxlade (Illustrator) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent