Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Well I took my beautiful girl to the clinic last night to get her on sub q 
fluids.Dr. Jen went out to check on her to see how bad she was.(she was not at 
work)she told me she fears the worse.That she may have fluid in her chest 
cavity.She warned me that when she sedates her that she may pass,or if there is 
fluid it would be best to let her go while already under.
  I am going out there this morning to see her before the sedation.My heart is 
so heavy right now I am sick.Please say a little prayer for my precious girl.
  Sherry

   
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Re: Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Sally Davis
Sherry

I am so sorry your girl is not well. You were so good to take her in.

Hugs

Sally


On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well I took my beautiful girl to the clinic last night to get her on sub q
 fluids.Dr. Jen went out to check on her to see how bad she was.(she was
 not at work)she told me she fears the worse.That she may have fluid in her
 chest cavity.She warned me that when she sedates her that she may pass,or
 if there is fluid it would be best to let her go while already under.
 I am going out there this morning to see her before the sedation.My heart
 is so heavy right now I am sick.Please say a little prayer for my precious
 girl.
 Sherry

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Re: heartworm info

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose
Thanks, Chris, it has been 3 yrs. since I have participated in this treatment 
for dogs.

I just wish that every time I turn around there wasn't something else for me to 
worry about when it comes to my cats.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:05 PM
  Subject: RE: heartworm info


  Actually, following the Katrina debaucle, American Heartworm Association 
revised protocol.  Now its 1 shot; wait a month; then 2 shots one day apart.  
Also protocol recommends treating with HW Prev meds PRIOR to shots in order to 
kill off larvae and make adult HW sterile.  Finally, there is a parasite that 
lives inside the HW that it is now recommended be killed by doxyciclin 
injections prior to full HW treatment.  These are nasty creatures.

   

  Problem is that they don’t really have a viable treatment for cats yet.   

   

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Re: Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Thank you Sally,I just got home from visiting with her and she looked so good!! 
I know she still has to make it through sedation and what the x-rays might 
show,but I have this tiny glimpse of hope that she will prevail again.She was 
purring for us when we scratched her face.Her fever was down that is why she 
felt more alert.Keep good thoughts please.
  Sherry

Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sherry 
   
  I am so sorry your girl is not well. You were so good to take her in.
   
  Hugs
   
  Sally

 
  On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I took my 
beautiful girl to the clinic last night to get her on sub q fluids.Dr. Jen went 
out to check on her to see how bad she was.(she was not at work)she told me she 
fears the worse.That she may have fluid in her chest cavity.She warned me that 
when she sedates her that she may pass,or if there is fluid it would be best to 
let her go while already under.
  I am going out there this morning to see her before the sedation.My heart is 
so heavy right now I am sick.Please say a little prayer for my precious girl.
  Sherry

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Re: Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
Sherry, I have been thinking about you both lately.  I hope she will
make it through.

On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you Sally,I just got home from visiting with her and she looked so
 good!! I know she still has to make it through sedation and what the x-rays
 might show,but I have this tiny glimpse of hope that she will prevail
 again.She was purring for us when we scratched her face.Her fever was down
 that is why she felt more alert.Keep good thoughts please.
 Sherry


 Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sherry

 I am so sorry your girl is not well. You were so good to take her in.

 Hugs

 Sally


 On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well I took my beautiful girl to the clinic last night to get her on sub q
 fluids.Dr. Jen went out to check on her to see how bad she was.(she was not
 at work)she told me she fears the worse.That she may have fluid in her chest
 cavity.She warned me that when she sedates her that she may pass,or if there
 is fluid it would be best to let her go while already under.
  I am going out there this morning to see her before the sedation.My heart
 is so heavy right now I am sick.Please say a little prayer for my precious
 girl.
  Sherry
  
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Re: Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Belinda

Sherry,
 I know of many CRF and heart kitties that have had fluid in their 
chest cavities and have survived, this is treatable, why would she not 
try treating?  Just curious ...


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RE: Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sherry -- good thoughts coming for Genevieve, and for you.
 
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Re: Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Hi Belinda,It is probably because of the felv.

Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sherry,
I know of many CRF and heart kitties that have had fluid in their 
chest cavities and have survived, this is treatable, why would she not 
try treating? Just curious ...

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Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and 
septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight 
with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her 
this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget 
that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now

   
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Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
Oh Sherry,

I am so so so sorry for your loss.

I know how much you loved her.

Crying with you...

On 8/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and
 septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight
 with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her
 this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget
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Re: heartworm info

2007-08-28 Thread glenda Goodman
Susan, Thank you! I had treated a dog once for
heartworms and until this discussion being opened up
regarding heartworms in cats, had just assumed it
would be about the same thing. I do not like giving my
cats chemicals, each month, unless I might actually
see a flea, for example. I was surprised to discover a
cat cannot be treated for heartworms once infected by
disease, the same as a dog. I did know cat's
resistance was better and had always counted on
that... I guess now, heartworms is becoming another
thing we need to be worrying about for our cats...I'll
be sharing this info. with friends... I do know
heartworm disease in becoming more prevalent every
year in the United States. The dog I dealt with was a
dog I had rescued in Hawaii. He had a bad case. I had
him treated and he became negative. I thought it would
be the same for cats... In Hawaii, because the
incidence of heartworms is so high, I did keep my dog
on preventatives...I would do the same here, for dogs,
on the mainland now, as it is getting so common... I
will now be considering it for my cats next
summer...Thanks, Glenda
--- Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi gang, 
 
 Funny, we were also discussing heartworms on another
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 reviewed it, so, let me know what you think.
 
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 of cat info on heartworm.  The video/animation is
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Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread glenda Goodman
Sherry , My heart is breaking for you. I completely
understand...I am so sorry for you and your little
girl. Love from us here. Glenda
--- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jen just called and it was worse then she
 thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv
 destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing
 to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling
 better.I had a wonderful hour with her this
 morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I
 will never forget that beautiful face and
 personality.I am so sick with heartache right now
 

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RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sherry, I'm so sorry to hear about Genevieve. I'm glad you had a
precious hour with her, where she knew how truly loved she was. Hy heart
goes out to you. Please know I'm thinking of you. You are an angel for
all you do, and all you go through, for the little souls that enter your
life. much love and big hugs, Kerry

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone


Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic
and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing
to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful
hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I
will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with
heartache right now

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RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread Melissa Lind
Sherry,

 

My thoughts are with you as you grieve. I'll be thinking of beautiful
Genevieve today. She's at peace now. I hope your heart will find comfort
knowing that you were such a wonderful and loving gift to her.

 

Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

 

Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and
septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight
with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her
this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget
that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now

  

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Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread Kat

Sleep soft, dear Genevieve...

Dear Sherry,

I am so sorry for your loss and your heartache!!  Bless you for giving
this precious little girl your heart and your home for this last year.
I am glad she had 12 hours of feeling better at the end, and that you 
were able to share one of them with her before the end.  You are in my
thoughts  prayers.  Thank you for all that you do for these kitties.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:02:09 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Genevieve  My precious baby is gone
 
 Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic
 and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had
 nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a
 wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her
 in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am
 so sick with heartache right now
 

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RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Thanks Melissa I think of her as a wonderful and loving gift to me!! :) 

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  My thoughts are with you as you grieve. I’ll be thinking of beautiful 
Genevieve today. She’s at peace now. I hope your heart will find comfort 
knowing that you were such a wonderful and loving gift to her.
   
  Melissa
   
  
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

   
Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and 
septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight 
with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her 
this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget 
that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now



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RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
Dear Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss. Love never dies.
 
Anita
 



 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:17:27 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 
 Genevieve My precious baby is gone To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sherry 
 , My heart is breaking for you. I completely understand...I am so sorry for 
 you and your little girl. Love from us here. Glenda --- Sherry DeHaan 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Jen just called and it was worse then she  
 thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv  destroyed her white blood 
 cells and she had nothing  to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling 
  better.I had a wonderful hour with her this  morning,at least I didn't 
 have to see her in agony.I  will never forget that beautiful face and  
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Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread dede hicken
I am so very sorry, Sherry.

Dede


--- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jen just called and it was worse then she
 thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv
 destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing
 to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling
 better.I had a wonderful hour with her this
 morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I
 will never forget that beautiful face and
 personality.I am so sick with heartache right now
 

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RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread Melissa Lind
So true! I think we need them as much as they need us. 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

 

Thanks Melissa I think of her as a wonderful and loving gift to me!! :) 

Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Sherry,

 

My thoughts are with you as you grieve. I'll be thinking of beautiful
Genevieve today. She's at peace now. I hope your heart will find comfort
knowing that you were such a wonderful and loving gift to her.

 

Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

 

Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and
septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight
with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her
this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget
that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now

  

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Pics of Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Here is a link to my album of this beautiful girl that I would like to share 
with you.
  
http://www1.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=174181509/a=42609805_42609805/t_=42609805

   
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Re: Pics of Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Leslie Lawther
Sherry... I was eating my lunch and thought I'd go look at the pictures.  I
only saw the first one... but OH MY GOODNESS!!  That picture could have been
taken at MY house!!  The one on the right (long hair tortie) looks like my
Riley, the one closest to the front of the picture (orange) looks like my
Jack... and the one of the left (black and white) looks like Maya... and the
one in the back is the image of my Wheezie that I lost in February!  I
nearly fell off my chair when I opened the photo... This is not sorta
similar... this is nearly idential cats!!

I'm so sorry for your loss... it's never easy... and you never quite get
over it.  But she'll always be with you.




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 Here is a link to my album of this beautiful girl that I would like to
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RE: Pics of Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
She is so very beautiful.  Thank you for sharing.
 
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Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose
I am so sorry, Sherry.

My thoughts are w/you and my felv+ babies send their love  kitty prayers too.

Blessings to sweet Genevieve, she is @ peace now.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
  To: Felvtalk 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM
  Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone


  Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and 
septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight 
with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her 
this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget 
that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now


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Re: Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Jane Lyons





Sherry I am so sorry for the loss of your sweet Genevieve.  Thank you  
for all the work that you do for

these dear kitties.

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OT: Michael Vick Pleads Guilty/ASPCA President Invites Letters of Thanks

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose


Subject: Michael Vick Pleads Guilty/ASPCA President Invites Letters of Thanks
 
  

Dear ASPCA Members and Supporters: 
With Michael Vick today appearing in federal court to file his plea 
in the federal dog fighting case that has been pending since July, I wanted to 
let you know directly that today we revealed our role in the federal 
investigation: ASPCA Forensic Veterinarian, Dr. Melinda Merck, participated in 
the excavation of the graves, and examination of the remains. 
It has been an honor for the ASPCA to assist federal authorities in 
this case. We are also extremely proud to be working with the National Football 
League to raise public awareness of the humane treatment of animals. The NFL 
took strong, swift and decisive action against Michael Vick on Friday by 
suspending him indefinitely without pay. 

Please join the ASPCA in sending a message of support to NFL 
Commissioner Roger Goodell, as well as the U.S. Attorney's Office and the 
Office of the Inspector General, USDA, letting them know that their efforts are 
not going unnoticed. 
We continue to assist this case by leading a team of animal 
behavior experts in evaluating the dogs seized from Vick's property earlier 
this year. Please visit www.aspca.org/cruelty often for updates. 
Thank you very much for your support of the ASPCA-it is that which 
enables us to pursue our 141-year old mission, which is as crucial today as 
when we were founded all those years ago-to provide effective means for the 
prevention of cruelty to animals. Every day, we come one step closer to being a 
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Re: Pics of Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread TatorBunz
Sherry,
My god I'm so sorry about this precious Beautiful girl. 
She had Jen there to help her. 
God only knows what her life would have been like if she  didn't come into 
yours.
At least you were able to spend time with her before she  left.
She will be waiting for you when the time  comes.
(Many of you heard me say this numerous times over the course  of years)
I do believe that we will be joined with our furangels at the  Bridge.
 
I have to tell you I have one just like her. Her name is Bugs  real name is 
Missy but she never took to it. It's almost like looking at  identical 
kitties. My Bugs is 6 yrs old now. She is dainty and don't take no  crap from 
the 
males in the home. Got fire in her butt. She was a rescue at the  age 5 weeks 
when a local shelter closing down was going euthanized animals. I  end up 
stealing her and her brother. He is a big long hair black boy when I say  big 
he is 
big. (18 pounds) But afraid of a lot of things. Husband calls him  
Chickenshit but he is still his 
Beau(his name...second to Vinnie/Vincent  the Balinese)
 
Yes, I may be a Siamese Rescue but I have other kitties in my  home besides 
Siamese.
 
I send you lots of hugs and headbutts from my  gang.
Please take care of yourself as I know what your going through  it is never 
easy losing one we love so much.
 
Terrie Mohr-Forker

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
SIAMESE   COLLIE RESCUE
Donations accepted at:
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My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Megan Heikkinen
Hello everyone,

My name is Megan. I'm a college student with three sibling cats, one of which 
was recently found to be FeLV-positive. We discovered this after Olive had a 
severe anemic episode last week all of the sudden and almost died. Her 
brother's blood was able to restore her, but how long this will last, we don't 
know. She has seemed happy and feeling well since the blood transfusion, but 
there's a feeling in my gut that tells me it's only a matter of time before 
she gets sick again, and I don't know what to do about that. Like I said, I'm 
a college student, and independent from my parents, which by default means I'm 
poor.

My vet doesn't know much about treatment, but he is going to talk to the 
university's vet school. We are considering interferon, although to be honest, 
I don't know if I'd be able to give Olive shots everyday. I'm in quite a 
dilemma, because I want to do what I can for Olive. She is the sweetest, 
friendliest cat I have ever met. All of my friends love her and some of them 
are also pretty upset about her condition.

Part of the dilemma is what to do about interaction with her siblings. I just 
had them tested (and vaccinated) today, and won't know the results until 
Thursday. I would assume that they are very likely to be infected as well, yet 
part of me thinks that they aren't, and the vet thought this, too. I had 
thought that maybe my boyfriend's cat had transmitted it to Olive, because he 
has some health problems, and therefore maybe only she was infected. But he 
tested negative today on the in-home test, so now I'm scared that Olive has 
had this since she was little, and therefore my other two probably have it as 
well. Unless, of course, they've developed immunity to it.

So, there are my two problems: What to do with Olive, and what to do if my 
other two turn out negative. If they are all positive, then leaving them 
together isn't an issue; although then I'm also left with the horrible 
situation of having three FeLV-positive cats. If they turn out to be negative, 
I don't know how to separate them. I don't want to risk their lives by having 
them interact, yet I can't bear to give up Olive. I live in an apartment, so 
keeping them separate in my home isn't a great solution.

If anyone has any suggestions, words of advice, etc., please let me know. I am 
completely distraught over this. Last night I could not sleep, and I'm already 
not caring about school, which just started.

Thank you for reading this. Sorry it's so long...
-Megan





OT: Terry: Chicken kitty

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose
How funny, I have several non meezers in my House of Fur that are chickens, I 
got them when I worked @ AHS.

I have 2 orange  white chickens, the 'fraidiest one is 
Super Chicken but his real name is Boo Radley, (To Kill A Mockingbird).

The other one is Chicken Boy, or Chick Chick, but his real name is Cipher 
Exemptus...

My newest chicken, Hobbs, AKAS Peg Legs, is still hidin' out under the 
loveseat in the cat room...

Here little chickchick..chick...  :)

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Pics of Genevieve


  Sherry,
  My god I'm so sorry about this precious Beautiful girl. 
  She had Jen there to help her. 
  God only knows what her life would have been like if she didn't come into 
yours.
  At least you were able to spend time with her before she left.
  She will be waiting for you when the time comes.
  (Many of you heard me say this numerous times over the course of years)
  I do believe that we will be joined with our furangels at the Bridge.

  I have to tell you I have one just like her. Her name is Bugs real name is 
Missy but she never took to it. It's almost like looking at identical kitties. 
My Bugs is 6 yrs old now. She is dainty and don't take no crap from the males 
in the home. Got fire in her butt. She was a rescue at the age 5 weeks when a 
local shelter closing down was going euthanized animals. I end up stealing her 
and her brother. He is a big long hair black boy when I say big he is big. (18 
pounds) But afraid of a lot of things. Husband calls him Chickenshit but he 
is still his 
  Beau(his name...second to Vinnie/Vincent the Balinese)

  Yes, I may be a Siamese Rescue but I have other kitties in my home besides 
Siamese.

  I send you lots of hugs and headbutts from my gang.
  Please take care of yourself as I know what your going through it is never 
easy losing one we love so much.

  Terrie Mohr-Forker

  TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
  SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
  Donations accepted at:
  https://www.paypal.com/


  http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue

  http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html

  http://www.felineleukemia.org/

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Re: Pics of Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Hi Terrie and thank you for the kind words,I would love to see a pic of Bugs.My 
Genevieve had fire in her butt too.She never backed down to my boys.Of course 
my boys are sweet,but Tristan loved to rattle her.He will miss her too.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sherry,
  My god I'm so sorry about this precious Beautiful girl. 
  She had Jen there to help her. 
  God only knows what her life would have been like if she didn't come into 
yours.
  At least you were able to spend time with her before she left.
  She will be waiting for you when the time comes.
  (Many of you heard me say this numerous times over the course of years)
  I do believe that we will be joined with our furangels at the Bridge.
   
  I have to tell you I have one just like her. Her name is Bugs real name is 
Missy but she never took to it. It's almost like looking at identical kitties. 
My Bugs is 6 yrs old now. She is dainty and don't take no crap from the males 
in the home. Got fire in her butt. She was a rescue at the age 5 weeks when a 
local shelter closing down was going euthanized animals. I end up stealing her 
and her brother. He is a big long hair black boy when I say big he is big. (18 
pounds) But afraid of a lot of things. Husband calls him Chickenshit but he 
is still his 
  Beau(his name...second to Vinnie/Vincent the Balinese)
   
  Yes, I may be a Siamese Rescue but I have other kitties in my home besides 
Siamese.
   
  I send you lots of hugs and headbutts from my gang.
  Please take care of yourself as I know what your going through it is never 
easy losing one we love so much.
   
  Terrie Mohr-Forker

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
Donations accepted at:
https://www.paypal.com/


http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue

http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html

http://www.felineleukemia.org/

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Re: OT: Terry: Chicken kitty

2007-08-28 Thread TatorBunz
 
 
That is too funny!
I have to tell ya that I think it is funny when he comes around  the corner 
and I purposely move my foot. It just cracks me up something  fierce! 
ROTFLMAO!!!
He literally goes straight up the air about3-4  feetLMAO!!!
Yet I can call him and he comes back to me.
I know that isn't nice but can't control myself at  times.
He is the only one I do that too but it's not all the time. 
Just when I'm thinking about it...it gets me in a better  mood.
 
In a message dated 8/28/2007 3:08:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How funny, I have several non meezers in  my House of Fur that are 
chickens, I got them when I worked @  AHS.
 
I have 2 orange  white chickens, the  'fraidiest one is 
Super Chicken but his real name is Boo  Radley, (To Kill A Mockingbird).
 
The other one is Chicken Boy, or Chick  Chick, but his real name is 
Cipher Exemptus...
 
My newest chicken, Hobbs, AKAS Peg  Legs, is still hidin' out under the 
loveseat in the cat  room...
 
Here little  chickchick..chick...  :)




 
Terrie Mohr-Forker

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Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread OfALegend
Megan,
 
 
I understand exactly where you’re coming from!  Two of my three babies were 
diagnosed  with FeLV last week.  After much  agonizing and listening to sound 
advice from the very educated people here, I’ve  decided to not separate them 
right now.  You can probably gather a LOT of  information if you’ll go to the 
_www.felinleukemia.org_ (http://www.felinleukemia.org/)   website and read all 
the posts from the last week or so, as my situation was  almost identical to 
yours. 
As for my personal opinion, I strongly recommend you try  UT CVM if you can 
possibly afford it.  You’ll need a referral from your usual vet to be seen 
there.  Ask your vet to refer you to Internal  Medicine.  I actually got my two 
 
appointments September 11, and I’ll let everyone know how it goes when I get  
there. It seems like you and I must be pretty close! I live about 40 minutes  
from UT, but I work in Alcoa, probably 15 minutes away from the UT CVM.  I 
really just think UT was the absolute best  care I could give my cats, and so I 
didn't hesitate.  From what I  understand, they will see your kitties for a 
consult and to discuss  treatment options, but most of the treatment and follow 
up 
will be through your  local vet.  Fortunately, my vet graduated from UT CVM, 
so he was very  willing and eager to give me the referral.  I think your doc 
would  probably do the same if you asked.   I think the important thing to 
remember  is, and this came directly from the FeLV website, “Feline Leukemia is 
NOT a  death sentence.”  That was very  important for me to hear that and know 
that.  As for specific information, I’m sure  everyone else, who knows a lot 
more than I do, will be more than willing to  offer advice.  As for support, 
hey,  I’m very close by, feel free to email me any time you need/want to talk.  
I 
understand how devastated you feel  right now, I was the same way on day one…
almost hysterical L   Do  keep everyone informed, ok? 
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Re: OT: Terry: Chicken kitty

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose
What's funny for me is when I catch the little group of chickens sleeping on 
my pillows on my bed.

They obviously love me, (in their own selfish catway) and know I am the 
caregiver and the bringer of food  water, Jonathan is the King of the 
Pride, (he gets ALL the toys delivered to HIS side of the bed @ night!).

So, why are they still afraid after all this time?

Here little chick chick...chickchickie...chickie

(Practising my chicken call).

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: OT: Terry: Chicken kitty


  That is too funny!
  I have to tell ya that I think it is funny when he comes around the corner 
and I purposely move my foot. It just cracks me up something fierce! ROTFLMAO!!!
  He literally goes straight up the air about3-4 feetLMAO!!!
  Yet I can call him and he comes back to me.
  I know that isn't nice but can't control myself at times.
  He is the only one I do that too but it's not all the time. 
  Just when I'm thinking about it...it gets me in a better mood.

  In a message dated 8/28/2007 3:08:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
How funny, I have several non meezers in my House of Fur that are 
chickens, I got them when I worked @ AHS.

I have 2 orange  white chickens, the 'fraidiest one is 
Super Chicken but his real name is Boo Radley, (To Kill A Mockingbird).

The other one is Chicken Boy, or Chick Chick, but his real name is 
Cipher Exemptus...

My newest chicken, Hobbs, AKAS Peg Legs, is still hidin' out under the 
loveseat in the cat room...

Here little chickchick..chick...  :)

  Terrie Mohr-Forker

  TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
  SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
  Donations accepted at:
  https://www.paypal.com/


  http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue

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  http://www.felineleukemia.org/

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Re: Pics of Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread TatorBunz
 
 
Okay, will send one directly to you. 
This was taken when she was thinned back soon due to being very  hot that 
summer.
I haven't uploaded them to any of my photo groups  yet.
 
In a message dated 8/28/2007 3:14:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi  Terrie and thank you for the kind words,I would love to see a pic of 
Bugs.My  Genevieve had fire in her butt too.She never backed down to my boys.Of 
course  my boys are sweet,but Tristan loved to rattle her.He will miss her  too.





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SIAMESE   COLLIE RESCUE
Donations accepted at:
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(http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) 

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(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) 

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(http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) 

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Re: Genevieve

2007-08-28 Thread Tracy Weese
Sorry to hear about Genevieve, sometimes it feels like this sorrow never 
ends.until you allow yourself to remember all the joy they brought to your 
life

Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone

2007-08-28 Thread wendy
Sherry,

I too am very sorry about your beloved Genevieve.  What a wonderful gift of 
love the two of you shared.  I'm learning more and more on this site what 
others have said: the depth of our pain is in direct correlation with the depth 
of our love.  Thinking of you and Genevieve tonight...

:)
Wendy
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02:09 AM
Subject: Genevieve My precious baby is gone


Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and 
septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight 
with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her 
this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget 
that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now


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A CAUSE OF HYPER-T/more research on PBDE's and mattresses

2007-08-28 Thread wendy
:)
Wendy
 
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world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~






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http://www.renewame rica.us/columns/ rogoff/070826
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I love my two very special Burmese cats, aged 12 and 14. That made it 
especially difficult to read about a new epidemic that is killing 
cats in their twilight years, caused by chemical flame retardants 
found in polyurethane foam used in sofa cushions and pillows. The 
HealthFinder. gov website explains that dust from polybromated 
diphenyl ethers (PBDE's) in foam-filled furniture, mattresses, 
carpets and electronic products causes hyperthyroidism in our feline 
companions, a deadly disease that includes increased appetite and 
weight loss. Because cats clean their fur frequently, they ingest 
these chemicals on a regular basis.

I find myself in agreement. However, while it is admirable to live in 
a pet-centric world we forget that people live in same world and 
deserve the same protections as our feline friends.

While our nation's legislators have been catnapping, a California law 
involving mattress fire retardants went into effect nationwide on 
July 1, 2007. Every mattress now has to meet the new California 
standards (codified as 16 CFR 1633) and pass what's known as the open-
flame or blow-torch test, in order to be sold in the United States.

Under the new law, every mattress sold must withstand a blowtorch 
flame two feet wide for 70 seconds and not ignite for 30 minutes. To 
achieve compliance, some bedding manufacturers have chosen to use 
fiber barriers in their mattress layers along with boric acid (roach 
killer). Others opt for spraying and inundating the mattresses with 
more potent and dangerous toxic chemicals.

Mark Strobel is a small mattress manufacturer and the founder of 
People For Clean Beds. For years he has tried, unsuccessfully, to 
stop this legislation. Doctors and health practitioners have spoken 
out against the new law; even the lawyer who brought the case forward 
now has expressed misgivings about it. Rather than being commended 
for his efforts to educate the public about the dangers inherent in 
the chemicals used, Strobel has been criticized as a biased authority 
because he markets and sells his own line of chemical-free 
mattresses. Ironically, mattress workers are coming forward and 
admitting they are getting sick simply handling the new chemically-
laden materials, but the S bedding giants such as Sealy, Serta and 
Simmons remain tight-lipped about the chemicals contained in their 
beds.

Antimony Trioxide is a chemical with similar properties to arsenic 
and lead and is linked to heart damage, cancer and Sudden Infant 
Death Syndrome. Decabromodiphenyl Oxide (Deca) is in the family of 
PBDE's, the same chemicals making cats sick. Both Antimony and Deca 
are known carcinogens that accumulate in body tissues; both are now 
among the many chemicals for allowed use in mattresses. Others are 
Silicon, Ammonium Polyphosphate, Melamine, and Formaldehyde. The new 
law does not require disclosure of what chemicals are contained in 
the mattresses so consumers are unaware whether their new beds will 
contain these toxins. People with chronic respiratory ailments and 
heart disease are most susceptible to the toxic effects. Since 
chemicals are absorbed slowly through the skin, we will sleep in a 
brew capable of causing allergic reactions such as headaches, rashes 
and nasal congestion today, but with long term exposure may lead to 
autoimmune disorders and cancer.

The Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) has declared these 
chemicals safe, but the Department of Health and Human Services 
Agency for Toxic Substances  Disease Registry has reported numerous 
health problems with exposure to antimony, indicated in this report. 
An independent group, www.tera.org, conducted a review which 
found significant problems, errors, and omissions with the CPSC 
report. The CPSC excluded children under age five from the risk 
assessment. The assumption is that children will be protected by 
vinyl mattress covers. The CPSC also knew about the dangers of 
formaldehyde but omitted their original findings in a later 2006 
report.

The most important government findings reported by the People For 
Clean Beds organization are the following:

When pressed by an independent reviewer about the cancer risk from 
Antimony Trioxide the CPSC admits: The cancer effects are 
cumulative. Every exposure contributes to the overall lifetime risk 
of cancer.

These chemicals are absorbed by our bodies from mattresses in 
significant amounts.

We will absorb a daily dose of poisons of .802 mg Antimony, .081 mg 
Boric Acid, and .073 mg. DBDO.

The CPSC says on page 40 of their report: As with any risk 
assessment, there are assumptions, limitations, and sources of 
uncertainty. ...it should be noted that percutaneous 

OT: A CAUSE OF HYPER-T/another article

2007-08-28 Thread wendy
:)
Wendy
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~




The article pointed to another website: 

http://www.everyday health.com/ publicsite/ ShowArticle. aspx?
IsP=news/607/ news607358. xmlcen=HC: %20IBS

which has more information on specific research.
~~

Chemical Flame Retardants Linked to Thyroid Disease in Cats

Print This Page Send to a Friend 

Published: 08/15/07
WEDNESDAY, Aug. 15 (HealthDay News) -- A mysterious epidemic of 
thyroid disease in pet cats in the United States may be due to dust 
from fire-retardant chemicals used in carpets, furniture, mattresses, 
electronic products and even pet food, researchers report.

And while the researchers said there's no evidence to suggest a 
threat to humans posed by the chemicals -- called polybrominated 
diphenyl ethers (PBDEs) -- they can't rule out the possibility.

Cats are very highly exposed to these chemicals, and the levels in 
cats are higher than the levels in people, said researcher Linda S. 
Birnbaum, director of the Experimental Toxicology Division at the 
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. But cats may be a good 
indicator of indoor exposure to humans, she added.

Symptoms of hyperthyroidism in cats include weight loss, increased 
appetite, hair loss and irritability. Hyperthyroid cats could serve 
as modern-day versions of the canaries in coal mines that alerted 
miners to poisonous gas, said Birnbaum, who added that 
hyperthyroidism is treatable in cats as well as people.

Feline hyperthyroidism is one of the most common and deadly diseases 
in older cats, and indoor pets are thought to be at greatest risk, 
Birnbaum said. Because of their conscientious grooming, cats ingest 
large amounts of house dust containing PBDEs.

Concerns about health effects from PDBEs began in the late 1990s, and 
studies have found that the chemicals cause liver and nerve toxicity 
in animals. In addition, a recent study found an association with 
house dust and the levels of PDBEs in breast milk in women, Birnbaum 
said.

Many PBDEs, such as penta, which was used in polyurethane foam for 
furniture cushions and pillows, have been phased out either 
voluntarily by manufacturers or by bans from states and the U.S. 
government and governments overseas.

Despite these bans, BBDEs are environmentally persistent compounds, 
so it will take a long time before they disappear from the 
environment, Birnbaum said.

She noted that the EPA is looking for safer alternatives to some of 
the chemicals that will be fire resistant but not pose a potential 
health threat to animals or humans. So far, 14 alternative flame 
retardants have been evaluated, and furniture foam manufacturers are 
using new alternatives, according to the EPA.

In the new study, published in the Aug. 15 online issue of 
Environmental Science  Technology, Birnbaum and her colleagues took 
blood samples from 23 cats, 11 of which suffered from 
hyperthyroidism. They found that the cats with the disease had levels 
of PDBEs that were three times higher than younger cats and cats 
without the condition.

PBDEs are also found in canned cat food, particularly in fish/seafood 
flavors, such as salmon and whitefish. An analysis showed that diets 
based on canned food could have PBDE levels 12 times higher than dry-
food diets. For these reasons, cats could be receiving as much as 100 
times greater dietary PBDE exposure than American adults, the 
researchers said.

The danger of feline hyperthyroidism might be higher in the United 
States, where people have the highest reported PBDE levels worldwide, 
according to the report. In addition, by the late 1990s, North 
America accounted for almost half of the worldwide demand for PBDEs 
for commercial materials such as furniture and upholstery.

The epidemic of hyperthyroidism in cats began almost 30 years ago, 
experts say, at the same time that PBDEs were introduced into 
household materials for fire-prevention. Now the disease has been 
seen in Canada, Australia, Japan and many parts of Europe.

Hyperthyroidism has also increased in people. For example, former 
President George H.W. Bush and First Lady Barbara Bush have the 
condition, as does Millie, their Springer Spaniel.

More information

For more information on PBDEs, visit the Washington State Department 
on Ecology.

--- In feline-hyperT@ yahoogroups. com, swierzop [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:

 
  I was just sent this article. It makes perfect sense. My vet 
says
  that Hyper-T tends to run in the same households.. ..and they 
didn't
  know why...now it looks like they do.
 
 I'm sorry but the article points to a correlation between specific
 poisons and the epidemic of hyper-t. To show a cause you'd have to 
show
 HOW it is achieved, and that has not been done. This article is no
 different than the one showing a correlation between the use of 
litter
 boxes and hyper-t. Or the 

To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread wendy
Megan,

Hi and welcome to the group.  I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come to 
the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist.  I hope this 
evening finds you better off than last night.  Michael is right...going to the 
website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most current 
archives is a very good idea.  There is so much to learn and lot of good, 
intelligent people here to help you.

Retesting with the IFA after a positive ELISA (in-house) test is important.  
ELISA can give false positives/negatives.  However, since Olive already is 
dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct.  However, all of your 
kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so don't 
give up hope that one day they will be negative.  I would retest every 3-6 
months (probably 6, since it's less stressful on them to travel and test less 
often).  About 30-40% of cats who are exposed will throw off the virus, which 
means that if all three were exposed as kittens, which is the most likely 
scenario for exposure, then the other two may be negative.  I'm betting at 
least one of them is, considering the numbers.  

I will not sugar-coat things...anemia is bad for FeLV+ kitties.  It's fatal a 
lot of the time, BUT we have seen kitties here who got through the anemia with 
things like transfusions and meds to help stimulate red blood cell production 
(mainly prednisolone).  The transfusion will wear off.  I think it lasts about 
10 days, give or take.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Did the vet give you 
any meds to give Olive?  She needs help in getting her RBC's going again.  Did 
the vet say she has regenerative or non-regenerative anemia?  Do you happen to 
have a copy of the bloodwork results done on Olive?  If not, can you get them 
to send you one electronically or pick one up to post here?  The BIG thing you 
need to know about is Hemobartonella.  Did your vet mention putting Olive on a 
three week dose of Doxycycline.  Hemobart is very difficult to see on a slide, 
so difficult to diagnose.  One minute the blood parasite is there, the next 
it's not.  So the majority
 of vets usually dose with doxy when they see anemia in an felv+ cat.  Hemobart 
has a much higher presence in FeLV+ kitties.  If it is hemobart, that's a good 
thing Megan.  It means you have a much better chance of saving Olive.  But you 
have to get her the meds asap.  And be firm with your vet about the doxy.  If 
your vet has not touched on any of these things I'm telling you, find another 
vet asap.  You need someone who is willing to work with you to save Olive.  Not 
make money off of you and not immediately suggest pts at the first sign of a 
positive FeLV test.  Michael's suggestion of getting a referral to UT is a 
great idea.  I'm concerned that the vet did not tell you that the transfusion 
was just a temporary fix.  It treats the symptom, not the problem.  Some people 
do treat with Interferon.  I would post a question with that in the subject 
line and you will get more specific responses regarding that specific 
treatment.  Interferon will not treat
 anemia though.  It helps the immune system stay strong so the virus doesn't 
kick in.  

The two most important things you can do to keep your kitties healthy and the 
virus from 'kicking in' or activating is to feed them a high quality diet, one 
with no grains, like Innova Evo or the like.  Add immune boosting supplements 
like lysine to the food.  Lysine must not have the additive Propylene Glycol in 
the ingredients as it causes Heinz body anemia in cats.  The other thing is to 
keep your kitties as stress-free as possible.  New additions to the family, 
long vacations and especially boarding, moving, environmental factors like 
heat, a lot of company, and loud noises are all some things that can stress 
kitties out.  Also, your kitties have already been exposed, so separating them 
at this point is only going to stress them out further, something you don't 
want.   I would not separate.  I did not separate mine (I had four, one 
positive; the other three never became positive after four years sharing the 
same food/water bowls and litter boxes).

Try not to stress out too much Megan, so Olive will not pick up on it.  Do as 
well as you can in your studies even though you are dealing with this, and 
enjoy every minute you have with Olive.  Take photos of her so in case the 
worst happens, you have a visual memory of her.  I am not trying to scare you; 
just trying to give realistic advice.  You can't know what's in store for Olive 
in the near future.  Prepare for the worst, but hope and PRAY for the best.  
And please keep us posted and ask anymore questions you may have.

:)
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Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread glenda Goodman
Megan, The vet program at your school could be a real
help. I am so sorry that you are going through this,
especially with school just starting. It has to be
horribly stressful for you... The most important
thing, right now, is that you stay strong and remain
focused. No matter what, you have to be the strong one
to take care of your cats...You cannot afford to let
this affect your school performance. If you start
slipping in school, you will sink into a depression
and just start feeling overwhelmed...
You did the best thing, so far, by all of your
kitties. You got everyone vaccinated and you found
this group. Any questions you have, will be answered
here and the emotional support here is the best.
Everyone here understands. 
A couple months ago I got the news my kitty was FeLV
positive. I have absorbed a lot of information on how
to better take care of my cats since that day. The
people here gave me the hope , support and information
I needed to arm myself against this scary disease
Like Michael just told you: FeLV is not a death
sentence for your positive kitty. This site  is way
ahead of most vets, with current information on FeLV,
so trust the people here who take care of their FeLV+
kitties every day to know what they are talking
about...Again, I am very sorry...but as you will learn
, sometimes a cat can even fight off the virus...it
happens... We will be with you every step of the way.
You and your kitties have lots of loving, informed,
aunts and uncles here...Glenda
--- Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 My name is Megan. I'm a college student with three
 sibling cats, one of which 
 was recently found to be FeLV-positive. We
 discovered this after Olive had a 
 severe anemic episode last week all of the sudden
 and almost died. Her 
 brother's blood was able to restore her, but how
 long this will last, we don't 
 know. She has seemed happy and feeling well since
 the blood transfusion, but 
 there's a feeling in my gut that tells me it's only
 a matter of time before 
 she gets sick again, and I don't know what to do
 about that. Like I said, I'm 
 a college student, and independent from my parents,
 which by default means I'm 
 poor.
 
 My vet doesn't know much about treatment, but he is
 going to talk to the 
 university's vet school. We are considering
 interferon, although to be honest, 
 I don't know if I'd be able to give Olive shots
 everyday. I'm in quite a 
 dilemma, because I want to do what I can for Olive.
 She is the sweetest, 
 friendliest cat I have ever met. All of my friends
 love her and some of them 
 are also pretty upset about her condition.
 
 Part of the dilemma is what to do about interaction
 with her siblings. I just 
 had them tested (and vaccinated) today, and won't
 know the results until 
 Thursday. I would assume that they are very likely
 to be infected as well, yet 
 part of me thinks that they aren't, and the vet
 thought this, too. I had 
 thought that maybe my boyfriend's cat had
 transmitted it to Olive, because he 
 has some health problems, and therefore maybe only
 she was infected. But he 
 tested negative today on the in-home test, so now
 I'm scared that Olive has 
 had this since she was little, and therefore my
 other two probably have it as 
 well. Unless, of course, they've developed immunity
 to it.
 
 So, there are my two problems: What to do with
 Olive, and what to do if my 
 other two turn out negative. If they are all
 positive, then leaving them 
 together isn't an issue; although then I'm also left
 with the horrible 
 situation of having three FeLV-positive cats. If
 they turn out to be negative, 
 I don't know how to separate them. I don't want to
 risk their lives by having 
 them interact, yet I can't bear to give up Olive. I
 live in an apartment, so 
 keeping them separate in my home isn't a great
 solution.
 
 If anyone has any suggestions, words of advice,
 etc., please let me know. I am 
 completely distraught over this. Last night I could
 not sleep, and I'm already 
 not caring about school, which just started.
 
 Thank you for reading this. Sorry it's so long...
 -Megan
 
 
 
 



   

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RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
Having just gone through this recently and losing Monkee to anemia/FelV, I can provide this:


Blood transfusion: wears off in 10 days, if not less. 
Signs of it wearing off are pretty clear: lack of energy, less moving around, white gums/nose (Monkee's nose was "perfect pink" and when his transfusion wore off, it was white-white), not eating/eating less. You need to enjoy the time you have with her now that she's had a transfusion, but PREPARE in advance for it to wear off. You need to consider now whether you will do another one. There may not be time to think about that when the time comes. 
The only thing I regret about Monkee's situation and passing is that the transfusion wore off and I thought maybe his body would make red blood cells on it's ownand it didn't, so he went downhill very rapidly. You need to know that if the cat's body is not making it's own RBCs and the transfusion wears off, the cat experiences dizziness, vertigo, shortness of breath and maybe trouble breathing. I am not trying to be harsh here, just telling you what a cat will feel so that you can try to put yourself in that position to truly understand. The slightest movement may cause them dizziness and distress. In Monkee's final days/hours, all he wanted to do was lay in my closest (which he had never done before) on top of all my shoes; he didn't sleep, his eyes were always open and dilated and he would stare into space (which he had never done before until the 
anemia set in). Only in the final hours did he occasionally cry out like he had never done before (my mom and I believe it was because he felt like he wanted to do something, like go out on his porch, and he'd tried to move to do it, but wouldn't get far because of the shortness of breath/dizziness and he would get frustrated and angry and would emit the "cry." It broke my heart). He only had about 30 secs of respiratory distress while I held him and then he passed in my arms. I do indeed hope this is not the path you and your sweet cat take. 
From my own experience in July, I provide you these "words of wisdom": 
Watch for signs of a worsening of her symptoms; prepare for them; and admit to yourself when you see them (fight off the denial)-- those are the only things you can do so as to try to do what is best for your cat and that is what we all want. Anemia is a horrible way for them to suffer. 
Interferon: Injections? I was able to give Monkee oral interferon that had been ordered through a pharmacy via the telephone- I think it was Wedgwood Pharmacy? Your Vet calls in the prescription, then you call to order and pay for it. It's delivered in the mail- has to be refrigerated. And yes, this is only an immune booster that I believe Monkee was taking more for his Lymphosarcoma (cancer brought on by FelV); but once the anemia took over and became his most pressing problem, we stopped the interferon.
Best of luck to you.
-Caroline 




From:wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't know what to do.Date:Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:19:08 -0700 (PDT)Megan,Hi and welcome to the group.I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come to the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist.I hope this evening finds you better off than last night.Michael is right...going to the website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most current archives is a very good idea.There is so much to learn and lot of good, intelligent people here to help you.Retesting with the IFA after a 
positive ELISA (in-house) test is important.ELISA can give false positives/negatives.However, since Olive already is dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct.However, all of your kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so don't give up hope that one day they will be negative.I would retest every 3-6 months (probably 6, since it's less stressful on them to travel and test less often).About 30-40% of cats who are exposed will throw off the virus, which means that if all three were exposed as kittens, which is the most likely scenario for exposure, then the other two may be negative.I'm betting at least one of them is, considering the numbers.I will not sugar-coat things...anemia is bad for FeLV+ kitties.It's fatal a lot of the time, BUT we have seen 
kitties here who got through the anemia with things like transfusions and meds to help stimulate red blood cell production (mainly prednisolone).The transfusion will wear off.I think it lasts about 10 days, give or take.Someone correct me if I'm wrong.Did the vet give you any meds to give Olive?She needs help in getting her RBC's going again.Did the vet say she has regenerative or non-regenerative anemia?Do you happen to have a copy of the bloodwork results done on Olive?If not, can you get them to send you one electronically or pick one up to post here?The BIG thing you need to know about is 

Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Marylyn
Just so you know, some vets carry the oral interferon.  The vets I have in 
Louisville keep it on hand. If you decide on this you may want to call around.  
A month's supply runs about $10.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Caroline Kaufmann 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:13 PM
  Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't 
know what to do.


  Having just gone through this recently and losing Monkee to anemia/FelV, I 
can provide this:

  Blood transfusion: wears off in 10 days, if not less.  

  Signs of it wearing off are pretty clear: lack of energy, less moving around, 
white gums/nose (Monkee's nose was perfect pink and when his transfusion wore 
off, it was white-white), not eating/eating less.  You need to enjoy the time 
you have with her now that she's had a transfusion, but PREPARE in advance for 
it to wear off.  You need to consider now whether you will do another one.  
There may not be time to think about that when the time comes.  

  The only thing I regret about Monkee's situation and passing is that the 
transfusion wore off and I thought maybe his body would make red blood cells on 
it's own and it didn't, so he went downhill very rapidly.  You need to know 
that if the cat's body is not making it's own RBCs and the transfusion wears 
off, the cat experiences dizziness, vertigo, shortness of breath and maybe 
trouble breathing.  I am not trying to be harsh here, just telling you what a 
cat will feel so that you can try to put yourself in that position to truly 
understand.  The slightest movement may cause them dizziness and distress.  In 
Monkee's final days/hours, all he wanted to do was lay in my closest (which he 
had never done before) on top of all my shoes; he didn't sleep, his eyes were 
always open and dilated and he would stare into space (which he had never done 
before until the anemia set in).  Only in the final hours did he occasionally 
cry out like he had never done before (my mom and I believe it was because he 
felt like he wanted to do something, like go out on his porch, and he'd tried 
to move to do it, but wouldn't get far because of the shortness of 
breath/dizziness and he would get frustrated and angry and would emit the 
cry.  It broke my heart).  He only had about 30 secs of respiratory distress 
while I held him and then he passed in my arms.  I do indeed hope this is not 
the path you and your sweet cat take.   

  From my own experience in July, I provide you these words of wisdom: 

  Watch for signs of a worsening of her symptoms; prepare for them; and admit 
to yourself when you see them (fight off the denial)-- those are the only 
things you can do so as to try to do what is best for your cat and that is what 
we all want.  Anemia is a horrible way for them to suffer.  

  Interferon: Injections?  I was able to give Monkee oral interferon that had 
been ordered through a pharmacy via the telephone- I think it was Wedgwood 
Pharmacy?  Your Vet calls in the prescription, then you call to order and pay 
for it.  It's delivered in the mail- has to be refrigerated.  And yes, this is 
only an immune booster that I believe Monkee was taking more for his 
Lymphosarcoma (cancer brought on by FelV); but once the anemia took over and 
became his most pressing problem, we stopped the interferon.

  Best of luck to you.

  -Caroline 






From:  wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject:  To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't 
know what to do.
Date:  Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:19:08 -0700 (PDT)
Megan,

Hi and welcome to the group.  I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come 
to the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist.  I hope 
this evening finds you better off than last night.  Michael is right...going to 
the website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most current 
archives is a very good idea.  There is so much to learn and lot of good, 
intelligent people here to help you.

Retesting with the IFA after a positive ELISA (in-house) test is 
important.  ELISA can give false positives/negatives.  However, since Olive 
already is dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct.  However, all of 
your kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so 
don't give up hope that one day they will be negative.  I would retest every 
3-6 

Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose
Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral.

Have I missed something all these years...?


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:27 PM
  Subject: Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't 
know what to do.


  Just so you know, some vets carry the oral interferon.  The vets I have in 
Louisville keep it on hand. If you decide on this you may want to call around.  
A month's supply runs about $10.  






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Caroline Kaufmann 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't 
know what to do.


Having just gone through this recently and losing Monkee to anemia/FelV, I 
can provide this:

Blood transfusion: wears off in 10 days, if not less.  

Signs of it wearing off are pretty clear: lack of energy, less moving 
around, white gums/nose (Monkee's nose was perfect pink and when his 
transfusion wore off, it was white-white), not eating/eating less.  You need to 
enjoy the time you have with her now that she's had a transfusion, but PREPARE 
in advance for it to wear off.  You need to consider now whether you will do 
another one.  There may not be time to think about that when the time comes.  

The only thing I regret about Monkee's situation and passing is that the 
transfusion wore off and I thought maybe his body would make red blood cells on 
it's own and it didn't, so he went downhill very rapidly.  You need to know 
that if the cat's body is not making it's own RBCs and the transfusion wears 
off, the cat experiences dizziness, vertigo, shortness of breath and maybe 
trouble breathing.  I am not trying to be harsh here, just telling you what a 
cat will feel so that you can try to put yourself in that position to truly 
understand.  The slightest movement may cause them dizziness and distress.  In 
Monkee's final days/hours, all he wanted to do was lay in my closest (which he 
had never done before) on top of all my shoes; he didn't sleep, his eyes were 
always open and dilated and he would stare into space (which he had never done 
before until the anemia set in).  Only in the final hours did he occasionally 
cry out like he had never done before (my mom and I believe it was because he 
felt like he wanted to do something, like go out on his porch, and he'd tried 
to move to do it, but wouldn't get far because of the shortness of 
breath/dizziness and he would get frustrated and angry and would emit the 
cry.  It broke my heart).  He only had about 30 secs of respiratory distress 
while I held him and then he passed in my arms.  I do indeed hope this is not 
the path you and your sweet cat take.   

From my own experience in July, I provide you these words of wisdom: 

Watch for signs of a worsening of her symptoms; prepare for them; and admit 
to yourself when you see them (fight off the denial)-- those are the only 
things you can do so as to try to do what is best for your cat and that is what 
we all want.  Anemia is a horrible way for them to suffer.  

Interferon: Injections?  I was able to give Monkee oral interferon that had 
been ordered through a pharmacy via the telephone- I think it was Wedgwood 
Pharmacy?  Your Vet calls in the prescription, then you call to order and pay 
for it.  It's delivered in the mail- has to be refrigerated.  And yes, this is 
only an immune booster that I believe Monkee was taking more for his 
Lymphosarcoma (cancer brought on by FelV); but once the anemia took over and 
became his most pressing problem, we stopped the interferon.

Best of luck to you.

-Caroline 




--

  From:  wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  To:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject:  To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't 
know what to do.
  Date:  Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:19:08 -0700 (PDT)
  Megan,
  
  Hi and 

Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose
Ahhh., Megan, you have already had some wonderful advice fromWendy, Michael 
 Caroline (did I miss anyone? Sorry if I did).

There is nothing that I can add to their words of wisdom except, once again, 
I will say,

You need to take care of yourself, and don't forget to 
breathe.

We have all been through what you are experiencing, and you are among 
friends.

Take care  please keep us posted.



Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:05 PM
Subject: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.


Hello everyone,

My name is Megan. I'm a college student with three sibling cats, one of 
which
was recently found to be FeLV-positive. We discovered this after Olive had a
severe anemic episode last week all of the sudden and almost died. Her
brother's blood was able to restore her, but how long this will last, we 
don't
know. She has seemed happy and feeling well since the blood transfusion, but
there's a feeling in my gut that tells me it's only a matter of time before
she gets sick again, and I don't know what to do about that. Like I said, 
I'm
a college student, and independent from my parents, which by default means 
I'm
poor.

My vet doesn't know much about treatment, but he is going to talk to the
university's vet school. We are considering interferon, although to be 
honest,
I don't know if I'd be able to give Olive shots everyday. I'm in quite a
dilemma, because I want to do what I can for Olive. She is the sweetest,
friendliest cat I have ever met. All of my friends love her and some of them
are also pretty upset about her condition.

Part of the dilemma is what to do about interaction with her siblings. I 
just
had them tested (and vaccinated) today, and won't know the results until
Thursday. I would assume that they are very likely to be infected as well, 
yet
part of me thinks that they aren't, and the vet thought this, too. I had
thought that maybe my boyfriend's cat had transmitted it to Olive, because 
he
has some health problems, and therefore maybe only she was infected. But he
tested negative today on the in-home test, so now I'm scared that Olive has
had this since she was little, and therefore my other two probably have it 
as
well. Unless, of course, they've developed immunity to it.

So, there are my two problems: What to do with Olive, and what to do if my
other two turn out negative. If they are all positive, then leaving them
together isn't an issue; although then I'm also left with the horrible
situation of having three FeLV-positive cats. If they turn out to be 
negative,
I don't know how to separate them. I don't want to risk their lives by 
having
them interact, yet I can't bear to give up Olive. I live in an apartment, so
keeping them separate in my home isn't a great solution.

If anyone has any suggestions, words of advice, etc., please let me know. I 
am
completely distraught over this. Last night I could not sleep, and I'm 
already
not caring about school, which just started.

Thank you for reading this. Sorry it's so long...
-Megan





RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Megan Heikkinen
Olive actually did test negative on the ELISA test, although it wasn't a
strong negative. The IFA was done twice and came up positive both times. We
skipped the ELISA test on my other two, and instead are having the blood
shipped to the vet school for the IFA.

I don't think that my vet seems to know a whole lot about FeLV, really. He
hasn't really given me any options as to what to do with Olive. He may be
under the impression that it's a lost cause. He gave me amoxidrop, but I don't
know if that's even helping. He didn't say what type of anemia it was,
although I would assume it's non-regenerative. He is aware of Hemobartonella,
but I don't think he seemed too concerned about it. I'm going to call tomorrow
and hopefully get more answers. I knew the transfusion wouldn't last long, but
I didn't realize that it would only be for about a week. I will try to get
Doxycylcine, as well as a consultation at the vet school. Now I'm scared that
I'm too late to help her. If need be, I can do another transfusion, although
last time we had to get blood from one of my other cats, and I hate putting
them at risk. I will try to talk to other vets if mine proves unhelpful.

Thank you for your input, and thanks to everyone else, as well. You all are
giving me hope, even it's just a little bit.

-Megan

= Original Message From wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Megan,

Hi and welcome to the group.  I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come to
the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist.  I hope
this evening finds you better off than last night.  Michael is right...going
to the website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most
current archives is a very good idea.  There is so much to learn and lot of
good, intelligent people here to help you.

Retesting with the IFA after a positive ELISA (in-house) test is important.
ELISA can give false positives/negatives.  However, since Olive already is
dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct.  However, all of your
kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so don't
give up hope that one day they will be negative.  I would retest every 3-6
months (probably 6, since it's less stressful on them to travel and test less
often).  About 30-40% of cats who are exposed will throw off the virus, which
means that if all three were exposed as kittens, which is the most likely
scenario for exposure, then the other two may be negative.  I'm betting at
least one of them is, considering the numbers.

I will not sugar-coat things...anemia is bad for FeLV+ kitties.  It's fatal a
lot of the time, BUT we have seen kitties here who got through the anemia with
things like transfusions and meds to help stimulate red blood cell production
(mainly prednisolone).  The transfusion will wear off.  I think it lasts about
10 days, give or take.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Did the vet give you
any meds to give Olive?  She needs help in getting her RBC's going again.  Did
the vet say she has regenerative or non-regenerative anemia?  Do you happen to
have a copy of the bloodwork results done on Olive?  If not, can you get them
to send you one electronically or pick one up to post here?  The BIG thing you
need to know about is Hemobartonella.  Did your vet mention putting Olive on a
three week dose of Doxycycline.  Hemobart is very difficult to see on a slide,
so difficult to diagnose.  One minute the blood parasite is there, the next
it's not.  So the majority
 of vets usually dose with doxy when they see anemia in an felv+ cat.
Hemobart has a much higher presence in FeLV+ kitties.  If it is hemobart,
that's a good thing Megan.  It means you have a much better chance of saving
Olive.  But you have to get her the meds asap.  And be firm with your vet
about the doxy.  If your vet has not touched on any of these things I'm
telling you, find another vet asap.  You need someone who is willing to work
with you to save Olive.  Not make money off of you and not immediately suggest
pts at the first sign of a positive FeLV test.  Michael's suggestion of
getting a referral to UT is a great idea.  I'm concerned that the vet did not
tell you that the transfusion was just a temporary fix.  It treats the
symptom, not the problem.  Some people do treat with Interferon.  I would post
a question with that in the subject line and you will get more specific
responses regarding that specific treatment.  Interferon will not treat
 anemia though.  It helps the immune system stay strong so the virus doesn't
kick in.

The two most important things you can do to keep your kitties healthy and the
virus from 'kicking in' or activating is to feed them a high quality diet, one
with no grains, like Innova Evo or the like.  Add immune boosting supplements
like lysine to the food.  Lysine must not have the additive Propylene Glycol
in the ingredients as it causes Heinz body anemia in cats.  The other thing is
to keep your kitties as stress-free as possible.  New 

To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose





Well, Megan, I could be the one who is wrong.

I have just never heard of Interferon shots, just oral.

Someone will be popping in to let us know,there is LOTS of great
experience on this list..

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't
know what to do.


Apparently my vet doesn't know what he's talking about... That kind of
scares
me. I think shots may exist, but he told me they'd have to be given every so
often and then every single day.

My other two cats, who were vaccinated today, keep randomly yowling. I have
no
idea why...

= Original Message From Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral.

Have I missed something all these years...?


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent





Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Tad Burnett

Probably close to 4 years ago I mentioned interferon to my vet...
He had never worked with an FeLV+ cat before...
He had used it with cows before and it was given IV to them...
He grabbed his medical book and there were words in there about
giving it both ways to cats but he decided that with the smaller animal
oral was preferred

My vet has been in practice for 30 years but he is still willing to learn
an he pays attention when I hear of something new on hear... There may
be better vets in the world but I doubt if there is any that will meet me
himself in the middle of the night in 10 minutes... That's worth a lot when
finding a vet as well as one that is willing to work with FeLV
Tad

Susan Dubose wrote:





Well, Megan, I could be the one who is wrong.

I have just never heard of Interferon shots, just oral.

Someone will be popping in to let us know,there is LOTS of great
experience on this list..

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
 As Cleopatra lay in state,
  Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
  Purring welcomes of soft applause,
  Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't
know what to do.


Apparently my vet doesn't know what he's talking about... That kind of
scares
me. I think shots may exist, but he told me they'd have to be given every so
often and then every single day.

My other two cats, who were vaccinated today, keep randomly yowling. I have
no
idea why...

 


= Original Message From Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral.

Have I missed something all these years...?


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
 Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
 Purring welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
   Trajan Tennent

   






 



Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose
Thanks, Tad, and you are right.

Willingness to learn in order to help patient  client makes them worth their 
weight in gold.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Tad Burnett 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:42 PM
  Subject: Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday,and I don't 
know what to do.


  Probably close to 4 years ago I mentioned interferon to my vet...
  He had never worked with an FeLV+ cat before...
  He had used it with cows before and it was given IV to them...
  He grabbed his medical book and there were words in there about
  giving it both ways to cats but he decided that with the smaller animal
  oral was preferred

  My vet has been in practice for 30 years but he is still willing to learn
  an he pays attention when I hear of something new on hear... There may
  be better vets in the world but I doubt if there is any that will meet me
  himself in the middle of the night in 10 minutes... That's worth a lot when
  finding a vet as well as one that is willing to work with FeLV
  Tad

  Susan Dubose wrote:




Well, Megan, I could be the one who is wrong.

I have just never heard of Interferon shots, just oral.

Someone will be popping in to let us know,there is LOTS of great
experience on this list..

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't
know what to do.


Apparently my vet doesn't know what he's talking about... That kind of
scares
me. I think shots may exist, but he told me they'd have to be given every so
often and then every single day.

My other two cats, who were vaccinated today, keep randomly yowling. I have
no
idea why...

  = Original Message From Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral.

Have I missed something all these years...?


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
 As Cleopatra lay in state,
  Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
  Purring welcomes of soft applause,
  Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
Trajan Tennent





  

Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Tad Burnett
I should add that he was one that initially recommended PTS when the 
test was pos...

When I said I can't do that he was quick to talk about keeping them...
They are special needs cats and a good vet needs to know that the 
caretaker is ready

for that...
Tad

Susan Dubose wrote:


Thanks, Tad, and you are right.
 
Willingness to learn in order to help patient  client makes them 
worth their weight in gold.
 
 
Susan J. DuBose  ^..^

www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com http://www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org http://www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net http://www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent
 
 
 
 


- Original Message -
From: Tad Burnett mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive
yesterday,and I don't know what to do.

Probably close to 4 years ago I mentioned interferon to my vet...
He had never worked with an FeLV+ cat before...
He had used it with cows before and it was given IV to them...
He grabbed his medical book and there were words in there about
giving it both ways to cats but he decided that with the smaller
animal
oral was preferred

My vet has been in practice for 30 years but he is still willing
to learn
an he pays attention when I hear of something new on hear... There may
be better vets in the world but I doubt if there is any that will
meet me
himself in the middle of the night in 10 minutes... That's worth a
lot when
finding a vet as well as one that is willing to work with FeLV
Tad

Susan Dubose wrote:



Well, Megan, I could be the one who is wrong.

I have just never heard of Interferon shots, just oral.

Someone will be popping in to let us know,there is LOTS of great
experience on this list..

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
 As Cleopatra lay in state,
  Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
  Purring welcomes of soft applause,
  Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't
know what to do.


Apparently my vet doesn't know what he's talking about... That kind of
scares
me. I think shots may exist, but he told me they'd have to be given every so
often and then every single day.

My other two cats, who were vaccinated today, keep randomly yowling. I have
no
idea why...

 


= Original Message From Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Sorry, I have never heard of interferon injections, ONLY oral.

Have I missed something all these years...?


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
 Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
 Purring welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
   Trajan Tennent

   






 



RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't know what to do.

2007-08-28 Thread Chris
Don't know if it would help but my Tucson has had a couple of episodes of
very low white blood count.  Vet gave her a series of immune-regulin shots
and it did perk her back up pretty quickly.  

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Cell:  914-720-6888
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan Heikkinen
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: To Megan: Re: My cat was tested positive yesterday, and I don't
know what to do.

Olive actually did test negative on the ELISA test, although it wasn't a
strong negative. The IFA was done twice and came up positive both times. We
skipped the ELISA test on my other two, and instead are having the blood
shipped to the vet school for the IFA.

I don't think that my vet seems to know a whole lot about FeLV, really. He
hasn't really given me any options as to what to do with Olive. He may be
under the impression that it's a lost cause. He gave me amoxidrop, but I
don't
know if that's even helping. He didn't say what type of anemia it was,
although I would assume it's non-regenerative. He is aware of
Hemobartonella,
but I don't think he seemed too concerned about it. I'm going to call
tomorrow
and hopefully get more answers. I knew the transfusion wouldn't last long,
but
I didn't realize that it would only be for about a week. I will try to get
Doxycylcine, as well as a consultation at the vet school. Now I'm scared
that
I'm too late to help her. If need be, I can do another transfusion, although
last time we had to get blood from one of my other cats, and I hate putting
them at risk. I will try to talk to other vets if mine proves unhelpful.

Thank you for your input, and thanks to everyone else, as well. You all are
giving me hope, even it's just a little bit.

-Megan

= Original Message From wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Megan,

Hi and welcome to the group.  I'm sorry you had to find us but you've come
to
the best place there is for info. short of a Veterinary Internist.  I hope
this evening finds you better off than last night.  Michael is right...going
to the website and clicking into Archives and searching through the most
current archives is a very good idea.  There is so much to learn and lot of
good, intelligent people here to help you.

Retesting with the IFA after a positive ELISA (in-house) test is important.
ELISA can give false positives/negatives.  However, since Olive already is
dealing with anemia, the test is probably correct.  However, all of your
kitties who are positive can still seroconvert and 'throw' the virus, so
don't
give up hope that one day they will be negative.  I would retest every 3-6
months (probably 6, since it's less stressful on them to travel and test
less
often).  About 30-40% of cats who are exposed will throw off the virus,
which
means that if all three were exposed as kittens, which is the most likely
scenario for exposure, then the other two may be negative.  I'm betting at
least one of them is, considering the numbers.

I will not sugar-coat things...anemia is bad for FeLV+ kitties.  It's fatal
a
lot of the time, BUT we have seen kitties here who got through the anemia
with
things like transfusions and meds to help stimulate red blood cell
production
(mainly prednisolone).  The transfusion will wear off.  I think it lasts
about
10 days, give or take.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Did the vet give
you
any meds to give Olive?  She needs help in getting her RBC's going again.
Did
the vet say she has regenerative or non-regenerative anemia?  Do you happen
to
have a copy of the bloodwork results done on Olive?  If not, can you get
them
to send you one electronically or pick one up to post here?  The BIG thing
you
need to know about is Hemobartonella.  Did your vet mention putting Olive on
a
three week dose of Doxycycline.  Hemobart is very difficult to see on a
slide,
so difficult to diagnose.  One minute the blood parasite is there, the next
it's not.  So the majority
 of vets usually dose with doxy when they see anemia in an felv+ cat.
Hemobart has a much higher presence in FeLV+ kitties.  If it is hemobart,
that's a good thing Megan.  It means you have a much better chance of saving
Olive.  But you have to get her the meds asap.  And be firm with your vet
about the doxy.  If your vet has not touched on any of these things I'm
telling you, find another vet asap.  You need someone who is willing to work
with you to save Olive.  Not make money off of you and not immediately
suggest
pts at the first sign of a positive FeLV test.  Michael's suggestion of
getting a referral to UT is a great idea.  I'm concerned that the vet did
not
tell you that the transfusion was just a temporary fix.  It treats the
symptom, not the problem.  Some people do treat with Interferon.  I would
post
a question with 

OT: The Good Cat Food Guide?

2007-08-28 Thread Susan Dubose
Has anyone read this book?

It came out last fall, it's about 160+ pages (small ) and only about $15.
Just curious.
( I HAVE to stay out of the online bookstores!  :)

The Good Cat Food Guide (Hardcover) 
by Rosemary Gasson (Author), Andrew Gasson (Author), Kevin Oxlade (Illustrator) 


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent