[Felvtalk] Supplements for Grrr

2009-04-09 Thread Amy Ackerman

Thanks for all the ideas and advice.  I had thought of kitten food but thought 
it best to steer clear for the reasons mentioned- concern about kidney 
function- as we are already worried about that.  The dang cat eats just FINE- 
he eats like a horse, and is easily eating twice what the other two are, maybe 
combined.  I'm wary of getting into another bought of testing to determine why 
he's eating so much and still wasting away- see my previous thread.  Very hard 
to do lots of intensive vet work with this cat.  I'm going to try baby food as 
I think we'll be able to add it to his 'normal' rations without issue.  He's 
still king of the roost- hardly has to look at the other two and they scatter 
to the wind.  I think baby food will be viscous enough for him to nosh in one 
go with the dry.  We have also begun giving him bits of chicken throughout the 
day- if he didn't think he was special before.. well, now his crown is 
almost visible. Thanks again all-Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements for Grrr

2009-04-09 Thread Debbie Harrison

Amy, I can't remember now...but, has he been checked for hyperthyroidism?  If 
he is eating that much and still not gaining weightjust curious.

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> From: swa...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:00:21 -0400
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Supplements for Grrr
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the ideas and advice. I had thought of kitten food but thought 
> it best to steer clear for the reasons mentioned- concern about kidney 
> function- as we are already worried about that. The dang cat eats just FINE- 
> he eats like a horse, and is easily eating twice what the other two are, 
> maybe combined. I'm wary of getting into another bought of testing to 
> determine why he's eating so much and still wasting away- see my previous 
> thread. Very hard to do lots of intensive vet work with this cat. I'm going 
> to try baby food as I think we'll be able to add it to his 'normal' rations 
> without issue. He's still king of the roost- hardly has to look at the other 
> two and they scatter to the wind. I think baby food will be viscous enough 
> for him to nosh in one go with the dry. We have also begun giving him bits of 
> chicken throughout the day- if he didn't think he was special before.. 
> well, now his crown is almost visible. Thanks again all-Amy
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[Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?

2009-04-09 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
Dear all,
Just received this from my vet's clinic. My first instinct is no, but I 
would welcome your thoughts on the necessity for "all-year-round Revolution"? 
Thanks!
Kerry M.
 
Feline Heartworm Update:
   
 
 
 
Dear Pet Owner, 
   April 2009
 
A new study from Auburn University has indicated that heartworm disease in cats 
is a far bigger issue than previously thought.  Cats can get heartworm 
infection through the simple bite of an infected mosquito.  Studies have shown: 
Indoor cats are just as susceptible to infection when mosquitoes enter our home.
 
Once bitten, immature heartworms are transmitted and the heartworm lifecycle 
begins.  The larval worms then start their journey through the body, ultimately 
affecting the heart, blood vessels and lungs.
 
A cat's body is designed to respond and kill foreign invaders, including 
heartworm larvae before they develop into adults.  As the cat's body responds, 
the intense inflammatory reaction causes severe damage to the lung tissue. This 
disease state is clinically recognized as Heartworm Associated Respiratory 
Disease or H.A.R.D.  Once this damage to the lung tissue occurs, it is not 
reversible and there is no treatment to remove the adult heartworms from a cat.
 
With this new information we are now recommending ALL CATS be put on Revolution 
year round.  Revolution is a broad spectrum parasiticide that in addition to 
preventing heartworm also prevents intestinal parasites, ear mites and fleas.
 
Please contact us if you would like to discuss prevention for your cat.  
 
Sincerely,
 
The Doctors and Staff at Roscoe Village Animal Hospital  


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?

2009-04-09 Thread Debbie Harrison

Kerry, when I was MUCH younger, vets would tell you that cats couldn't get 
heartworms...but I have seen for myself that it is possible.  I have not used 
Revolution, but the spay/neuter clinic routinely uses it for every animal they 
put under for sedation.

I do keep my cats on Frontline and Advantage...wouldn't that kill any mosquito 
borne parasite as well?  Curious kittens arecurious.

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> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:41:21 -0700
> From: kerrymacken...@ymail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?
> 
> Dear all,
> Just received this from my vet's clinic. My first instinct is no, but I 
> would welcome your thoughts on the necessity for "all-year-round Revolution"? 
> Thanks!
> Kerry M.
>  
> Feline Heartworm Update:
> 
>  
>   
> 
> Dear Pet Owner,   
>  April 2009
>  
> A new study from Auburn University has indicated that heartworm disease in 
> cats is a far bigger issue than previously thought.  Cats can get heartworm 
> infection through the simple bite of an infected mosquito.  Studies have 
> shown: Indoor cats are just as susceptible to infection when mosquitoes enter 
> our home.
>  
> Once bitten, immature heartworms are transmitted and the heartworm lifecycle 
> begins.  The larval worms then start their journey through the body, 
> ultimately affecting the heart, blood vessels and lungs.
>  
> A cat's body is designed to respond and kill foreign invaders, including 
> heartworm larvae before they develop into adults.  As the cat's body 
> responds, the intense inflammatory reaction causes severe damage to the lung 
> tissue. This disease state is clinically recognized as Heartworm Associated 
> Respiratory Disease or H.A.R.D.  Once this damage to the lung tissue occurs, 
> it is not reversible and there is no treatment to remove the adult heartworms 
> from a cat.
>  
> With this new information we are now recommending ALL CATS be put on 
> Revolution year round.  Revolution is a broad spectrum parasiticide that in 
> addition to preventing heartworm also prevents intestinal parasites, ear 
> mites and fleas.
>  
> Please contact us if you would like to discuss prevention for your cat.  
>  
> Sincerely,
>  
> The Doctors and Staff at Roscoe Village Animal Hospital 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?

2009-04-09 Thread Debbie Harrison

duhI meant to say "under sedation for surgery"geez, what a maroon...

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> From: dlh1...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:31:16 +0500
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?
> 
> 
> Kerry, when I was MUCH younger, vets would tell you that cats couldn't get 
> heartworms...but I have seen for myself that it is possible. I have not used 
> Revolution, but the spay/neuter clinic routinely uses it for every animal 
> they put under for sedation.
> 
> I do keep my cats on Frontline and Advantage...wouldn't that kill any 
> mosquito borne parasite as well? Curious kittens arecurious.
> 
> Debbie (COL)
> "The time is always right to do what is right" - Martin Luther King
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:41:21 -0700
> > From: kerrymacken...@ymail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?
> > 
> > Dear all,
> > Just received this from my vet's clinic. My first instinct is no, but I 
> > would welcome your thoughts on the necessity for "all-year-round 
> > Revolution"? 
> > Thanks!
> > Kerry M.
> > 
> > Feline Heartworm Update:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Pet Owner, April 2009
> > 
> > A new study from Auburn University has indicated that heartworm disease in 
> > cats is a far bigger issue than previously thought. Cats can get heartworm 
> > infection through the simple bite of an infected mosquito. Studies have 
> > shown: Indoor cats are just as susceptible to infection when mosquitoes 
> > enter our home.
> > 
> > Once bitten, immature heartworms are transmitted and the heartworm 
> > lifecycle begins. The larval worms then start their journey through the 
> > body, ultimately affecting the heart, blood vessels and lungs.
> > 
> > A cat's body is designed to respond and kill foreign invaders, including 
> > heartworm larvae before they develop into adults. As the cat's body 
> > responds, the intense inflammatory reaction causes severe damage to the 
> > lung tissue. This disease state is clinically recognized as Heartworm 
> > Associated Respiratory Disease or H.A.R.D. Once this damage to the lung 
> > tissue occurs, it is not reversible and there is no treatment to remove the 
> > adult heartworms from a cat.
> > 
> > With this new information we are now recommending ALL CATS be put on 
> > Revolution year round. Revolution is a broad spectrum parasiticide that in 
> > addition to preventing heartworm also prevents intestinal parasites, ear 
> > mites and fleas.
> > 
> > Please contact us if you would like to discuss prevention for your cat. 
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > The Doctors and Staff at Roscoe Village Animal Hospital 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?

2009-04-09 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
Thanks Debbie!





From: Debbie Harrison 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 12:31:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?


Kerry, when I was MUCH younger, vets would tell you that cats couldn't get 
heartworms...but I have seen for myself that it is possible.  I have not used 
Revolution, but the spay/neuter clinic routinely uses it for every animal they 
put under for sedation.

I do keep my cats on Frontline and Advantage...wouldn't that kill any mosquito 
borne parasite as well?  Curious kittens arecurious.

Debbie (COL)
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> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:41:21 -0700
> From: kerrymacken...@ymail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?
> 
> Dear all,
> Just received this from my vet's clinic. My first instinct is no, but I 
> would welcome your thoughts on the necessity for "all-year-round Revolution"? 
> Thanks!
> Kerry M.
>  
> Feline Heartworm Update:
> 
>      
>                                                                               
>                           
> Dear Pet Owner,                                                               
>                              April 2009
>  
> A new study from Auburn University has indicated that heartworm disease in 
> cats is a far bigger issue than previously thought.  Cats can get heartworm 
> infection through the simple bite of an infected mosquito.  Studies have 
> shown: Indoor cats are just as susceptible to infection when mosquitoes enter 
> our home.
>  
> Once bitten, immature heartworms are transmitted and the heartworm lifecycle 
> begins.  The larval worms then start their journey through the body, 
> ultimately affecting the heart, blood vessels and lungs.
>  
> A cat's body is designed to respond and kill foreign invaders, including 
> heartworm larvae before they develop into adults.  As the cat's body 
> responds, the intense inflammatory reaction causes severe damage to the lung 
> tissue. This disease state is clinically recognized as Heartworm Associated 
> Respiratory Disease or H.A.R.D.  Once this damage to the lung tissue occurs, 
> it is not reversible and there is no treatment to remove the adult heartworms 
> from a cat.
>  
> With this new information we are now recommending ALL CATS be put on 
> Revolution year round.  Revolution is a broad spectrum parasiticide that in 
> addition to preventing heartworm also prevents intestinal parasites, ear 
> mites and fleas.
>  
> Please contact us if you would like to discuss prevention for your cat.  
>  
> Sincerely,
>  
> The Doctors and Staff at Roscoe Village Animal Hospital 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?

2009-04-09 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

 I didn't notice---shows how sedated I must be :>)

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Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:40 PM
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duhI meant to say "under sedation for surgery"geez, what a
maroon...

Debbie (COL)
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> From: dlh1...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:31:16 +0500
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?
> 
> 
> Kerry, when I was MUCH younger, vets would tell you that cats couldn't
get heartworms...but I have seen for myself that it is possible. I have
not used Revolution, but the spay/neuter clinic routinely uses it for
every animal they put under for sedation.
> 
> I do keep my cats on Frontline and Advantage...wouldn't that kill any
mosquito borne parasite as well? Curious kittens arecurious.
> 
> Debbie (COL)
> "The time is always right to do what is right" - Martin Luther King
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:41:21 -0700
> > From: kerrymacken...@ymail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?
> > 
> > Dear all,
> > Just received this from my vet's clinic. My first instinct is
no, but I would welcome your thoughts on the necessity for
"all-year-round Revolution"? 
> > Thanks!
> > Kerry M.
> > 
> > Feline Heartworm Update:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Pet Owner, April 2009
> > 
> > A new study from Auburn University has indicated that heartworm
disease in cats is a far bigger issue than previously thought. Cats can
get heartworm infection through the simple bite of an infected mosquito.
Studies have shown: Indoor cats are just as susceptible to infection
when mosquitoes enter our home.
> > 
> > Once bitten, immature heartworms are transmitted and the heartworm
lifecycle begins. The larval worms then start their journey through the
body, ultimately affecting the heart, blood vessels and lungs.
> > 
> > A cat's body is designed to respond and kill foreign invaders,
including heartworm larvae before they develop into adults. As the cat's
body responds, the intense inflammatory reaction causes severe damage to
the lung tissue. This disease state is clinically recognized as
Heartworm Associated Respiratory Disease or H.A.R.D. Once this damage to
the lung tissue occurs, it is not reversible and there is no treatment
to remove the adult heartworms from a cat.
> > 
> > With this new information we are now recommending ALL CATS be put on
Revolution year round. Revolution is a broad spectrum parasiticide that
in addition to preventing heartworm also prevents intestinal parasites,
ear mites and fleas.
> > 
> > Please contact us if you would like to discuss prevention for your
cat. 
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > The Doctors and Staff at Roscoe Village Animal Hospital 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements for Grrr

2009-04-09 Thread Belinda Sauro
  Yes, hyper-T, didn't think of that, this is what was happening with 
Fred, he was always asking for food and eating really good but not 
gaining any weight, he was always acting like he was starving.  He also 
yowled and if I got up he immediately got up to follow me, just in case 
I was heading to the kitchen and food!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements for Grrr

2009-04-09 Thread Belinda Sauro
PS.  Fred was hyper-T and had the radio iodine treatment, he was also 
CRF we found out when checking for the hyper-T.  He had his treatment 3 
years ago and is fine, still CRF though.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?

2009-04-09 Thread Kelley Saveika
I don't know what part of the country you live in, but have been using year
round Revolution for years.  We have mosquitos year round and one heartworm
can kill a cat.
There is also no cure once they get them. I rather like Revolution, it helps
with ear mites, roundworms, hookworms, fleas, etc.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Kerry MacKenzie
wrote:

> Dear all,
> Just received this from my vet's clinic. My first instinct is no, but I
> would welcome your thoughts on the necessity for "all-year-round
> Revolution"?
> Thanks!
> Kerry M.
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm

2009-04-09 Thread James Rauscher

Hi Kerry,

   One of my cats (FeLV-) was diagnosed with asthma about a year ago. The 
symptoms for asthma and heartworm are similar, I guess, but the vet was 
confident it was not heartworm (she did not test for that, but did a couple of 
tests for asthma), and Horus responded beautifully to Flovent, so we are sure 
it was not heartworm. The vet told us that it is more prevalent in the South 
and other warmer climates. I bought heartworm meds for my dog recently (while 
my cats were having their tests) and no recommendation was made for putting any 
of the cats on any heartworm preventative. I don't know where you live, but it 
seems that in the Northeast at least it is not as much of a concern for cats as 
it for dogs. If you live in a warmer climate or travel to warmer climates with 
your cat(s), then it may be a good idea. Hope this is helpful!

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm

2009-04-09 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks Avia! 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James Rauscher
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Hi Kerry,

   One of my cats (FeLV-) was diagnosed with asthma about a year ago.
The symptoms for asthma and heartworm are similar, I guess, but the vet
was confident it was not heartworm (she did not test for that, but did a
couple of tests for asthma), and Horus responded beautifully to Flovent,
so we are sure it was not heartworm. The vet told us that it is more
prevalent in the South and other warmer climates. I bought heartworm
meds for my dog recently (while my cats were having their tests) and no
recommendation was made for putting any of the cats on any heartworm
preventative. I don't know where you live, but it seems that in the
Northeast at least it is not as much of a concern for cats as it for
dogs. If you live in a warmer climate or travel to warmer climates with
your cat(s), then it may be a good idea. Hope this is helpful!

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Re: [Felvtalk] Exposure time/retesting

2009-04-09 Thread James Rauscher

Onyx tested positive on both Elisa and IFA (two days apart) 75 days after 
Cinder died (the other two negative). When should I retest? I have another week 
before Horus & Blackie get their FeLV boosters, and the vet I like gets back 
from vacation, so I was wondering if anyone here can tell me.

I have them all on Viralys (mixed in their dry food), and the DMG for Onyx is 
supposed to arrive today. None of them would eat the canned food I put the 
Viralys in, so I tried putting it on their dry food and they all eat it that 
way. I know it's not a perfect delivery system, but at least they are all 
getting some. I also ordered Nupro - I hope I can get Onyx to eat her food with 
that, she's very picky. Am I overdoing it?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?

2009-04-09 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks Kelley! 

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?

I don't know what part of the country you live in, but have been using
year
round Revolution for years.  We have mosquitos year round and one
heartworm
can kill a cat.
There is also no cure once they get them. I rather like Revolution, it
helps
with ear mites, roundworms, hookworms, fleas, etc.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Kerry MacKenzie
wrote:

> Dear all,
> Just received this from my vet's clinic. My first instinct is no,
but I
> would welcome your thoughts on the necessity for "all-year-round
> Revolution"?
> Thanks!
> Kerry M.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm

2009-04-09 Thread Laurieskatz
A friend in Iowa did have a cat who had heartworm more than 5 years ago. The
vets did treat her and she is fine. Small but fine. I have had 4 cats with
asthma. Flovent works wonders!
Laurie 

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James Rauscher
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm


Hi Kerry,

   One of my cats (FeLV-) was diagnosed with asthma about a year ago. The
symptoms for asthma and heartworm are similar, I guess, but the vet was
confident it was not heartworm (she did not test for that, but did a couple
of tests for asthma), and Horus responded beautifully to Flovent, so we are
sure it was not heartworm. The vet told us that it is more prevalent in the
South and other warmer climates. I bought heartworm meds for my dog recently
(while my cats were having their tests) and no recommendation was made for
putting any of the cats on any heartworm preventative. I don't know where
you live, but it seems that in the Northeast at least it is not as much of a
concern for cats as it for dogs. If you live in a warmer climate or travel
to warmer climates with your cat(s), then it may be a good idea. Hope this
is helpful!

Avia


  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Exposure time/retesting

2009-04-09 Thread Laurieskatz
Not all cats like the taste of Viralys. You can get unflavored 500mg L
lysine tablets, crush them and put them on their canned food.
Laurie

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Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:59 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Exposure time/retesting


Onyx tested positive on both Elisa and IFA (two days apart) 75 days after
Cinder died (the other two negative). When should I retest? I have another
week before Horus & Blackie get their FeLV boosters, and the vet I like gets
back from vacation, so I was wondering if anyone here can tell me.

I have them all on Viralys (mixed in their dry food), and the DMG for Onyx
is supposed to arrive today. None of them would eat the canned food I put
the Viralys in, so I tried putting it on their dry food and they all eat it
that way. I know it's not a perfect delivery system, but at least they are
all getting some. I also ordered Nupro - I hope I can get Onyx to eat her
food with that, she's very picky. Am I overdoing it?

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[Felvtalk] patience

2009-04-09 Thread dlgegg
ok everyone, been in shop, had a bug and just now deleted 400 unwanted 
messages.  now working on important ones (250).  please be patient if i answer 
things our of order and out of date.  
also just got another furbaby.  she showed up around 5 days ago, looking 
pitiful, only a 3" tail, long haired torty and the most loveable baby you ever 
saw.  bad weather was moving in and i was going back and forth to hospital 60 
miles away for my Mary (she had 2 strokes close together) and picking up her 
mom so she could see her, calling her clients (she is beauty operator) and in 
general keeping the Silex grape vine informed so took her to my vet and he 
checked her out and boarded her for 4 days since i could not bring her in with 
my babies until i knew if she was okay.  well, she has felv, a slight urinary 
infection.  but her tail is doing well.  he thinks a coyote or something made a 
grab for her and bit her tail off.  she is so sweet, i can't imagine why 
someone would toss her out to fend for herself.  well, she is working in with 
the others nicely.  no one has killed anyone yet.  QUESTION,  SHE IS OBVIOUSLY 
IN HEAT.  vet says can't do anything until out of heat.  i almost have to spay 
her or she will never be able to go out for fear of having kittens.  he said 
most likely if she had kittens, they would be felv + also.  i think i remember 
conversation of subject of spaying pos kitties.  we think she is around 3 
years.  NEED ADVICE  SPAY OR NOT  is it safe with her being felv+?  we are 
doing the best test to be double sure and a complete blood profile and 
urinalysis to make sure all else is well with her and also to get a (normal) 
base for future reference.  OTHER THAN BEING AN OUTRAGEOUS FLIRT, SHE SEEMS TO 
BE HEALTHY.  dorlis

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[Felvtalk] the dangers fo chemical flea and tick products

2009-04-09 Thread Laurieskatz
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/emails/040909c.html?click=73593

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] CLS - Angel Kathy - Non FELV

2009-04-09 Thread dlgegg
I know you have already told her so, but please tell her for me that it was not 
her fault.  so many would not have kept  a kitten with so many problems.  she 
would have been put to sleep.  she kept her, did everything she could to make 
her life a pleasant one and goodness sake, she lived 13 years.  your friend has 
nothing to blame herself for.  some people don't even do that much for their 
own children and she did it for a cat.  dorlis
 Kelley Saveika  wrote: 
> Kathy is one of my friends' kitties.  She crossed the bridge last week due
> to end stage cancer and renal failure.  She had been blind since birth and
> they had her operated on to form eyelids so the fur would not stick to her
> eyes.  She also had some other birth defects.  Despite her living 13 years
> of course my friend blames herself.
> 
> Kelley
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> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] patience

2009-04-09 Thread Debbie Harrison

I would recommend that you give her time to recover from all of the 
traumathen, by all means, spay her. If everything else (besides the felv) 
looks good, spay her...

Debbie (COL)
"The time is always right to do what is right" -  Martin Luther King


 
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:22:11 -0500
> From: dlg...@windstream.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] patience
> 
> ok everyone, been in shop, had a bug and just now deleted 400 unwanted 
> messages. now working on important ones (250). please be patient if i answer 
> things our of order and out of date. 
> also just got another furbaby. she showed up around 5 days ago, looking 
> pitiful, only a 3" tail, long haired torty and the most loveable baby you 
> ever saw. bad weather was moving in and i was going back and forth to 
> hospital 60 miles away for my Mary (she had 2 strokes close together) and 
> picking up her mom so she could see her, calling her clients (she is beauty 
> operator) and in general keeping the Silex grape vine informed so took her to 
> my vet and he checked her out and boarded her for 4 days since i could not 
> bring her in with my babies until i knew if she was okay. well, she has felv, 
> a slight urinary infection. but her tail is doing well. he thinks a coyote or 
> something made a grab for her and bit her tail off. she is so sweet, i can't 
> imagine why someone would toss her out to fend for herself. well, she is 
> working in with the others nicely. no one has killed anyone yet. QUESTION, 
> SHE IS OBVIOUSLY IN HEAT. vet says can't do anything until out of heat. i 
> almost have to spay her or she will never be able to go out for fear of 
> having kittens. he said most likely if she had kittens, they would be felv + 
> also. i think i remember conversation of subject of spaying pos kitties. we 
> think she is around 3 years. NEED ADVICE SPAY OR NOT is it safe with her 
> being felv+? we are doing the best test to be double sure and a complete 
> blood profile and urinalysis to make sure all else is well with her and also 
> to get a (normal) base for future reference. OTHER THAN BEING AN OUTRAGEOUS 
> FLIRT, SHE SEEMS TO BE HEALTHY. dorlis
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Re: [Felvtalk] patience

2009-04-09 Thread Laurieskatz
Some vets will spay a cat in heat. Greater risk of bleeding is what I have
been told. Those who will spay said it's not a risk, just that some vets
don't want to deal with a messier spay. I would always have her spayed
rather than risk her becoming pregnant. We have always spayed FeLV+ cats
during a time when they are asymptomatic. I am sorry I don't know if being
in heat is a contra indication for spaying an FeLV+ cat.  

>From www.catsplay.com
 "One entire heat or estrous cycle, which consists of estrus and diestrus
together, lasts roughly from 18 to 24 days. Estrus itself, the phase in
which cats act a little crazy and are receptive to being mated, lasts
approximately four to 10 days. If not mated or spayed, a female cat will
continually cycle into and out of estrus during the entire breeding season.
This is not especially good for a cat's health, as the physical demands of
estrus can be quite upsetting. It's not so good for your sanity, either!" 
Laurie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] patience

ok everyone, been in shop, had a bug and just now deleted 400 unwanted
messages.  now working on important ones (250).  please be patient if i
answer things our of order and out of date.  
also just got another furbaby.  she showed up around 5 days ago, looking
pitiful, only a 3" tail, long haired torty and the most loveable baby you
ever saw.  bad weather was moving in and i was going back and forth to
hospital 60 miles away for my Mary (she had 2 strokes close together) and
picking up her mom so she could see her, calling her clients (she is beauty
operator) and in general keeping the Silex grape vine informed so took her
to my vet and he checked her out and boarded her for 4 days since i could
not bring her in with my babies until i knew if she was okay.  well, she has
felv, a slight urinary infection.  but her tail is doing well.  he thinks a
coyote or something made a grab for her and bit her tail off.  she is so
sweet, i can't imagine why someone would toss her out to fend for herself.
well, she is working in with the others nicely.  no one has killed anyone
yet.  QUESTION,  SHE IS OBVIOUSLY IN HEAT.  vet says can't do anything until
out of heat.  i almost have to spay her or she will never be able to go out
for fear of having kittens.  he said most likely if she had kittens, they
would be felv + also.  i think i remember conversation of subject of spaying
pos kitties.  we think she is around 3 years.  NEED ADVICE  SPAY OR NOT  is
it safe with her being felv+?  we are doing the best test to be double sure
and a complete blood profile and urinalysis to make sure all else is well
with her and also to get a (normal) base for future reference.  OTHER THAN
BEING AN OUTRAGEOUS FLIRT, SHE SEEMS TO BE HEALTHY.  dorlis

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feeling Guilty

2009-04-09 Thread dlgegg
hello, i think i know what you feel.  i swore that 5 was my limit, no more and 
just this week i took in a new baby.  i wish i could win the lottery, then i 
could buy a large piece of land, fence it in and rescue all the dogs, cats and 
horses in our area.  actually, all animals.  i would rescue children, but they 
won't let me just pick them up and take them home.  if i could find a suitable 
home for them, i would adopt them out, if not, then they are mine.  so far, i 
have not had to turn one away, that would be awfully hard to do.  fortunately, 
i live in a rural area and there are no restrictions on how many you can have.  
my only restrictions are what i can afford and physically can care for.  dorlis 
 martinj...@verizon.net wrote: 
> when you have to turn away FeLv cats because you rescued one to many, 
> does the feeling of guilt ever go away.  I was going to take a cat from 
> NY but had an emergency rescue of one who was going to be put to sleep. 
> I had to tell this person that I can't take the cat.  We are getting our 
> last one from Indiana, that has been planned for months.  I worry about 
> being reported to the ASPCA for having too many cats.  We currently have 
> 13, plus 1 from indiana makes 14.
> 
> I wish I could rescue them all.  In 2-3 years, when we get more 
> financialy stable, we are going to convert a house that we are currently 
> renting, into a cattery so I can rescue more cats.  But for now we run 
> it out of our home, which is large, but is getting over run by cats.
> 
> Any advice or words of comfort is appreciated.
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Re: [Felvtalk] patience

2009-04-09 Thread Pat Kachur
My Mandy (felv+) is about 7 and was spayed at about age 4--there were no 
negatives at all.  Seems there are more reasons to spay (avoiding other 
reproductive-related diseases in the future) than not to (pregnancy, going 
in and out of heat quite often).



- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] patience


ok everyone, been in shop, had a bug and just now deleted 400 unwanted 
messages.  now working on important ones (250).  please be patient if i 
answer things our of order and out of date.
also just got another furbaby.  she showed up around 5 days ago, looking 
pitiful, only a 3" tail, long haired torty and the most loveable baby you 
ever saw.  bad weather was moving in and i was going back and forth to 
hospital 60 miles away for my Mary (she had 2 strokes close together) and 
picking up her mom so she could see her, calling her clients (she is 
beauty operator) and in general keeping the Silex grape vine informed so 
took her to my vet and he checked her out and boarded her for 4 days since 
i could not bring her in with my babies until i knew if she was okay. 
well, she has felv, a slight urinary infection.  but her tail is doing 
well.  he thinks a coyote or something made a grab for her and bit her 
tail off.  she is so sweet, i can't imagine why someone would toss her out 
to fend for herself.  well, she is working in with the others nicely.  no 
one has killed anyone yet.  QUESTION,  SHE IS OBVIOUSLY IN HEAT.  vet says 
can't do anything until out of heat.  i almost have to spay her or she 
will never be able to go out for fear of having kittens.  he said most 
likely if she had kittens, they would be felv + also.  i think i remember 
conversation of subject of spaying pos kitties.  we think she is around 3 
years.  NEED ADVICE  SPAY OR NOT  is it safe with her being felv+?  we are 
doing the best test to be double sure and a complete blood profile and 
urinalysis to make sure all else is well with her and also to get a 
(normal) base for future reference.  OTHER THAN BEING AN OUTRAGEOUS FLIRT, 
SHE SEEMS TO BE HEALTHY.  dorlis


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Re: [Felvtalk] patience

2009-04-09 Thread Cougar Clan

Perhaps a vet who uses laser for spaying or something similar
On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Laurieskatz wrote:

Some vets will spay a cat in heat. Greater risk of bleeding is what  
I have
been told. Those who will spay said it's not a risk, just that some  
vets

don't want to deal with a messier spay. I would always have her spayed
rather than risk her becoming pregnant. We have always spayed FeLV+  
cats
during a time when they are asymptomatic. I am sorry I don't know if  
being

in heat is a contra indication for spaying an FeLV+ cat.


From www.catsplay.com
"One entire heat or estrous cycle, which consists of estrus and  
diestrus
together, lasts roughly from 18 to 24 days. Estrus itself, the phase  
in

which cats act a little crazy and are receptive to being mated, lasts
approximately four to 10 days. If not mated or spayed, a female cat  
will
continually cycle into and out of estrus during the entire breeding  
season.
This is not especially good for a cat's health, as the physical  
demands of
estrus can be quite upsetting. It's not so good for your sanity,  
either!"

Laurie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] patience

ok everyone, been in shop, had a bug and just now deleted 400 unwanted
messages.  now working on important ones (250).  please be patient  
if i

answer things our of order and out of date.
also just got another furbaby.  she showed up around 5 days ago,  
looking
pitiful, only a 3" tail, long haired torty and the most loveable  
baby you

ever saw.  bad weather was moving in and i was going back and forth to
hospital 60 miles away for my Mary (she had 2 strokes close  
together) and
picking up her mom so she could see her, calling her clients (she is  
beauty
operator) and in general keeping the Silex grape vine informed so  
took her
to my vet and he checked her out and boarded her for 4 days since i  
could
not bring her in with my babies until i knew if she was okay.  well,  
she has
felv, a slight urinary infection.  but her tail is doing well.  he  
thinks a
coyote or something made a grab for her and bit her tail off.  she  
is so
sweet, i can't imagine why someone would toss her out to fend for  
herself.
well, she is working in with the others nicely.  no one has killed  
anyone
yet.  QUESTION,  SHE IS OBVIOUSLY IN HEAT.  vet says can't do  
anything until
out of heat.  i almost have to spay her or she will never be able to  
go out
for fear of having kittens.  he said most likely if she had kittens,  
they
would be felv + also.  i think i remember conversation of subject of  
spaying
pos kitties.  we think she is around 3 years.  NEED ADVICE  SPAY OR  
NOT  is
it safe with her being felv+?  we are doing the best test to be  
double sure
and a complete blood profile and urinalysis to make sure all else is  
well
with her and also to get a (normal) base for future reference.   
OTHER THAN

BEING AN OUTRAGEOUS FLIRT, SHE SEEMS TO BE HEALTHY.  dorlis

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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone else on Facebook?

2009-04-09 Thread dlgegg
i haven't even figured out how to get on so think it is a good ideas to stay 
away for a while.  plan to take course on all these new fangled things first.  
dorlis
 Sue & Frank Koren  wrote: 
> I'm on facebook.  Really don't know how to use it very well, though.
>   (My kids would say, "Mom! You're so lame!")
> 
>   Sue Koren
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[Felvtalk] FeLV+ but tested after the vaccinations were given

2009-04-09 Thread Kim
Hello,

I have a foster cat who tested positive to the Elisa test AFTER she was
vaccinated. Do previously vaccinating a cat create a false positive when
tested after the vac.s?

When I got her she had all of her shots but was never tested for FeLV until
I did it.

Thanks!
Kim

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] the dangers fo chemical flea and tick products

2009-04-09 Thread SALLY NORDSTROM

I use Bio-Spot on my dog and cats - I buy it at the pet supply store.  It's 
less expensive than the vet's brand and works very well.  My dog and I camp and 
hike and I have never found a flea or tick on him, or on my cats.

   Sally   


--- On Thu, 4/9/09, Laurieskatz  wrote:

> From: Laurieskatz 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] the dangers fo chemical flea and tick products
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:24 PM
> http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/emails/040909c.html?click=73593
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ but tested after the vaccinations were given

2009-04-09 Thread TANYA NOE

Kim,
The Feline Leukemia vaccine cannot give cats leukemia and it does not give 
them a false positive. It doesn't affect the test at all. Some cats can test 
false positive so I would think about retesting or getting a IFA Hardy test 
that tells if it is in the bone marrow yet or not. Also how old is the kitten? 
Young animals usually under a year can sometimes shed the virus and become 
negative later in life.
 I hope this helps, good luck.
Tanya


--- On Thu, 4/9/09, Kim  wrote:

> From: Kim 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ but tested after the vaccinations were given
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 5:17 PM
> Hello,
> 
> I have a foster cat who tested positive to the Elisa test
> AFTER she was
> vaccinated. Do previously vaccinating a cat create a false
> positive when
> tested after the vac.s?
> 
> When I got her she had all of her shots but was never
> tested for FeLV until
> I did it.
> 
> Thanks!
> Kim
> 
>  
> 
> "...Saving just one pet won't change the
> worldbut surely the world will
> change for that one pet..."
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 4 Million cats are killed each year.  
> Stop the slaughter. Spay and Neuter.
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Re: [Felvtalk] the dangers fo chemical flea and tick products

2009-04-09 Thread dlgegg
what about Revolution?  vet recommends it since also helps prevent heart worm.  
we live near a river and wetlands.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz  wrote: 
> http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/emails/040909c.html?click=73593
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Exposure time/retesting

2009-04-09 Thread Kelley Saveika
You can also get powdered lysine and not have to crush it.  Way cheaper and
lasts a long time.  1 pound for $10.69.

This is what we use:

*http://tinyurl.com/c4we8j*



On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Laurieskatz  wrote:

> Not all cats like the taste of Viralys. You can get unflavored 500mg L
> lysine tablets, crush them and put them on their canned food.
> Laurie
>
>


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Re: [Felvtalk] Exposure time/retesting

2009-04-09 Thread Laurieskatz
Thank-you!!!
I passed this on to a friend who TNRs feral kitties!!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Exposure time/retesting

You can also get powdered lysine and not have to crush it.  Way cheaper and
lasts a long time.  1 pound for $10.69.

This is what we use:

*http://tinyurl.com/c4we8j*



On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Laurieskatz  wrote:

> Not all cats like the taste of Viralys. You can get unflavored 500mg L
> lysine tablets, crush them and put them on their canned food.
> Laurie
>
>


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Re: [Felvtalk] feeling guilty

2009-04-09 Thread dlgegg
i also hope Jack finds his people.  you are right, the best thing we can do is 
keep on telling people, letting them know pos babies can be saved and live a 
long life and doing what we cn to help others help them.  dorlis
 Emily Hunter  wrote: 
> Sorry, sent this to the wrong address at first!
> >
> 
> > I can sympathize - just a few days ago I had to leave a cat at the  
> > shelter for the first time ever. He was a stray who showed up at my  
> > friend's feral colony and I helped her take him in to be checked.  
> > The good news is that he turned out to be microchipped, but they had  
> > the wrong phone number for his owner. Neither of us had a place to  
> > foster him for the ten days it would take to try to contact the  
> > owner by mail. It kills me that we had to leave him, but I had to  
> > consider that his owner might not take him back if she found out he  
> > was exposed to a felv+/fiv+ cat. He also apparently has mange, and I  
> > especially didn't think I could afford to expose Tofu to something  
> > contagious. (Please send prayers/positive thoughts that "Jack's"  
> > person can be located!)
> >
> > Everyone has to find their own limit. Mine is 6, partially based on  
> > a new city ordinance that requires a liscense for 7 or more. All you  
> > can do is realize that if you exceed your own limit, ALL your babies  
> > could end up taken away. I cope by keeping an ear out for anyone I  
> > meet who may be looking for a cat, by helping educate people about  
> > treatable illnesses, and even donating food/medicine to people I  
> > know who are having a hard time paying for cats they want to keep.
> >
> > -Emily
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Felvtalk] feeling guilty

2009-04-09 Thread Kelley Saveika
Emily,

We can put Jack on our website as a courtesy post if you want.

On 4/9/09, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:
> i also hope Jack finds his people.  you are right, the best thing we can do
> is keep on telling people, letting them know pos babies can be saved and
> live a long life and doing what we cn to help others help them.  dorlis
>  Emily Hunter  wrote:
>> Sorry, sent this to the wrong address at first!
>> >
>>
>> > I can sympathize - just a few days ago I had to leave a cat at the
>> > shelter for the first time ever. He was a stray who showed up at my
>> > friend's feral colony and I helped her take him in to be checked.
>> > The good news is that he turned out to be microchipped, but they had
>> > the wrong phone number for his owner. Neither of us had a place to
>> > foster him for the ten days it would take to try to contact the
>> > owner by mail. It kills me that we had to leave him, but I had to
>> > consider that his owner might not take him back if she found out he
>> > was exposed to a felv+/fiv+ cat. He also apparently has mange, and I
>> > especially didn't think I could afford to expose Tofu to something
>> > contagious. (Please send prayers/positive thoughts that "Jack's"
>> > person can be located!)
>> >
>> > Everyone has to find their own limit. Mine is 6, partially based on
>> > a new city ordinance that requires a liscense for 7 or more. All you
>> > can do is realize that if you exceed your own limit, ALL your babies
>> > could end up taken away. I cope by keeping an ear out for anyone I
>> > meet who may be looking for a cat, by helping educate people about
>> > treatable illnesses, and even donating food/medicine to people I
>> > know who are having a hard time paying for cats they want to keep.
>> >
>> > -Emily
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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