Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better u...
In a message dated 3/6/2009 9:38:47 PM Central Standard Time, lauriesk...@mchsi.com writes: Mine also like Viralys which is a flavored powder and about 3 times as expensive as the pills. That's the one I'm using. From the vet. Sidney and the General ** Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesamp; ncid=emlcntusyelp0005) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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sorry to be late with this, been a while since i logged in. my Annie was diagnosed felv + at age 4 when i got her. her owner was dying with liver cancer and could not keep her. if the right home could not be found, she wanted put to sleep. she spent 21 days locked in her owners trailer alone with only contact when owner's sister came to feed her and clean box. when i got her, she was pretty stressed out and since she had never been around other cats, not happy with 2 i already had being there. she seems to be an alpha female and bullied my other female Homey who was a stray. she had been spayed by previous owner who used same vet i use. since then, i have taken in 3 more babies, 2 whom no one wanted because they were 10 years old and 1, a stray whom a lady had been feeding. he had been hit by a car and needed 2 pins in his leg. she could not afford it so opted to put to sleep. he was so sweet, vet opted to fix his leg and find a home for him. this is same vet who found me for Annie. he knows a soft touch when he sees one. with each new cat, Annie has been agressive, but met her match with Casey who is also alpha female. still have a problem with Lil Bit and Annie. she is reclusive, 10 years old and when she does come into the room with others, she hisses and screams just like Annie. Lil Bit is also very skittish, the least sound or motion and she runs out of the room. i am going to test Annie again, since she had never been positive before all the upheavel in her life and we are thinking maybe she was exposed as a baby, developed and immunity and was okayuntil all the trauma. she is better than she was with the others and has settled down some so now we think would be a good time to retest. Annie, Casey, Homey and Bob all are in/out cats depending on the weather. i live in the middle of the woods so it is fairly safe and they usually spend most of their time on the deck and about half way down the bluff. have very little contact with wild animals. seem to sense it is smarter to sty away from them than try to fight them. all the others have been vaccinated for felv along with rabies and the other shots. since they do have a chance of contacting rabies carrying animals, fell shots are necessary. i do nt try to seperate Annie from others, seems cruel to do so, plus she can open doors. so far, she has shown no signs of illness, is fat and sassy, eats good, drinks plenty of waterand is in general a healthy cat. keep my fingers crossed. of course at first sign of a problem, will rush her to vet. dorlis amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.
missed one of your questions - i feed Hills science diet, a mix of adult hairball and the new one feeline natural best ocean fish. is use revolution for fleas and ticks because it also takes out heartworm which is a growing problem around here, probably because we have had a flood here at least once a year. dorlis amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.
don't be sorry, you are caring for her and she knows that and the vet and techs care for her. she may not like to be seperated from you, but she is still better off than she would be otherwise. dorlis nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com wrote: I have seven cats, the youngest being Taz was diagnosed with FeLv when she started getting sick after about 1 month with my other negative kitties all of which are vacinated. I took Taz in to get her looked at and to get her shots. That's when they tested her for FeLv and she came back positive. I feed her stinky salmon and white tuna, some Fancy Feast kitten food and some baby food, whatever I can get her to eat. She hates the Science Diet the vet recommended. I'va also boiled chicken for her for the broth and meat. I've had her on Imulan and have seen some mixed results but she is gaining weight, happy and bouncy so I'm continuing with the expensive treatments. She also get Pet Tinic everyday and DMG. I've seperated her from my other cats, which I hate because she was buddies with my three legged tuxedo kitty, but this was recommended by the vet. She said that vacinations are not a guarantee against the disease if the cats are exposed to it enough. All of my kitties are indoor kitties except one does get outdoor roaming priviledges because it gives him a better attitude. The rest of the cats get there outdoor stuff on a large screened in porch basically built just for them. It's hard having a FeLv kitty because I travel so much for work which means I board her at the vets while I'm gone which of course stresses her some. The people love her at the vet but I think it directly affects her wellness with regard to the blood work-up and down. Sorry for the long diatribe. Nancy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.
last time, promise. have you tried mackeral, all of my cats past and present love it. it is stinkier than salmon. we like stinky food. dorlis nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com wrote: I have seven cats, the youngest being Taz was diagnosed with FeLv when she started getting sick after about 1 month with my other negative kitties all of which are vacinated. I took Taz in to get her looked at and to get her shots. That's when they tested her for FeLv and she came back positive. I feed her stinky salmon and white tuna, some Fancy Feast kitten food and some baby food, whatever I can get her to eat. She hates the Science Diet the vet recommended. I'va also boiled chicken for her for the broth and meat. I've had her on Imulan and have seen some mixed results but she is gaining weight, happy and bouncy so I'm continuing with the expensive treatments. She also get Pet Tinic everyday and DMG. I've seperated her from my other cats, which I hate because she was buddies with my three legged tuxedo kitty, but this was recommended by the vet. She said that vacinations are not a guarantee against the disease if the cats are exposed to it enough. All of my kitties are indoor kitties except one does get outdoor roaming priviledges because it gives him a better attitude. The rest of the cats get there outdoor stuff on a large screened in porch basically built just for them. It's hard having a FeLv kitty because I travel so much for work which means I board her at the vets while I'm gone which of course stresses her some. The people love her at the vet but I think it directly affects her wellness with regard to the blood work-up and down. Sorry for the long diatribe. Nancy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.
Hi, have you tried mackeral? it is so smelly that you might fool him. General like my Bob, never met a person he did not like. likes to sleep draped over my neck. dorlis souther...@aol.com wrote: AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me. I have never owned a cat in my life. I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK. I was not happy. I tried to shoo him away. He was having none of it. He was like a bag of bones. And he cried so pitifully that I went and got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have milk any more than dogs are!) He drank it down so I got him another, which he drank down. The next day he was still out there. So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate the entire bowl. So the next day, when he was still there, I bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery. He ate it of course. After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered. So I took him to the vet. He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV+. You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die anyway. By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic) This boy went from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him and my husband and me. He has some really strange eating habits these days. He won't eat any one food for long. My vet wants him on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now. He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry. He'll eat one for 2-3 days and then he won't eat it and I'll change. The only problem I have is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements. He's on an immune system supplement that is a tablet I used to mix with the wet food. Now he won't eat it if I do. I've tried even mixing it in tuna and he won't eat it. So I'm in a little bit of a state over this. he is also on interferon 7 days on and 7 days off. I've also had some problems with this lately as he seems to throw up on the days that I give him interferon. He's had a kidney infection he's overcome. he has had pancreatitis that he's overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic upper respiratory infections. We think he's probably about 4-7 years old. He came to me when he was between 2-5 we think. I think he was dumped because he has such a love of humans. He's a big (15 lbs now) lapcat. He loves to be petted. He loves to be around people. He follows me every step I take, if the dog will let him. His only stress is the Mini Schnauzer who is 12 and has epilepsy :-) She hates him. He just tries to stay out of her way. (She sleeps on the bed at the foot and he sleeps up at the head, by my head!) Every time he sneezes I worry. But he's hanging in there so far, and as far as I can tell he is prospering. He has had rabies vaccine and calici virus in the past but I don't know if we'll do rabies this year since he isn't outside now. I'll have to talk to my vet about that and the calici too. Sidney and the General -Original Message- From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:01 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.
and calici virus in the past but I don't know if we'll do rabies this year since he isn't outside now. I'll have to talk to my vet about that and the calici too. Sidney and the General -Original Message- From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:01 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Heard of it, and it is WAAAY too expensive. You can buy a pound of powder lysine for about $15, it is made by NOW and sold in many online places.. That would give you about 1644 250mg doses. It has no taste and mixed with wet food just about any cat will just eat it. It is really sort of granulated and some of mine don't like the feel so I dissolve it in a tiny bit of water. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Jane Lyons Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. on the L-Lysine, my vet ordered an oral paste for me. no one is sick right now, but i give it as a preventative. name is Enisyl-F, made by Vetoquinol in Canada. each ml contains 250mgof L Lysine HCL in a bse of purified water, sorbitol, cod liver oil, zanthan gum, tuna flavor, soy lecithin, silica aerogel, carmel color, potassium sorbate and sodium benzoate. they reccomend 1 - 2 ml a day for adults and 1ml for kittens. anyone heard of this before? got any comments? dorlis Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com wrote: Hi Sidney The General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted. Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? I was able to get rid of a really bad upper respiratory with it. I buy it in capsule form and mix the powder into cats food and my cat, who could be a forensic pathologist when it comes to detecting supplements, does not know it is there. I make sure she gets 500mg daily and although it takes time, it usually works. I also use interferon, but give it on and off each day, rather than weeks. I wonder if that would make a difference. There is a study underway (Dr. Jean Dodds ..Rabies Challenge) to prove that we over vaccinate our animals and that one rabies shot should protect an animal for its lifetime. You can Google the 'rabies challenge' and read about the study and the vets who are involved. A rabies shot can be stressful for a healthy animal. I would think twice about vaccinating an Felv kittie. Hope your General continues to thrive. Jane On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote: AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me. I have never owned a cat in my life. I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK. I was not happy. I tried to shoo him away. He was having none of it. He was like a bag of bones. And he cried so pitifully that I went and got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have milk any more than dogs are!) He drank it down so I got him another, which he drank down. The next day he was still out there. So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate the entire bowl. So the next day, when he was still there, I bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery. He ate it of course. After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered. So I took him to the vet. He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV +. You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die anyway. By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic) This boy went from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him and my husband and me. He has some really strange eating habits these days. He won't eat any one food for long. My vet wants him on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now. He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry. He'll eat one for 2-3 days and then he won't eat it and I'll change. The only problem I have is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements. He's on an immune system supplement that is a tablet I used to mix with the wet food. Now he won't eat it if I do. I've tried even mixing it in tuna and he won't eat it. So I'm in a little bit of a state over this. he is also on interferon 7 days on and 7 days off. I've also had some problems with this lately as he seems to throw up on the days that I give him interferon. He's had a kidney infection he's overcome. he has had pancreatitis that he's overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Survey Answers and a question
Dorlis, this was a male cat who was an only cat. He has been dead for over 20 years now. L -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Laurieskatz Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Survey Answers and a question laurie, maybe she is an alpha and you are not doing what she wants so she teaches you a lesson? sometimes, Annie will act like this. wish i could get inside their heads and then i could solve the problem. we need a Caesar for cats i think. dorlis Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: Susan, good info on the internet about human directed aggression. Yes, I suspect she was removed from her littermates too soon. We had a cat like this once...he'd had distemper as a kitten and we thought he was a little brain damaged. I wonder, if the suggestions under human directed cat aggression don't work, about trying some kitty Prozac. Laurie Our biggest issue with Autumn is that she wants constant people interaction and if you don't entertain her she will go into a rage and bite and scratch. Rage is the only way to describe it. She will sit and stare at you meow and sometimes I can't figure out what she wants. At that point it is only a countdown to her attacking me. I end up with bloody bites, bruises and scratches. We have tried very hard to break her of this.You have to do something because if you ignore her it only escalates. We have tried the squirt bottle on the vet's recommendation and she will simply sneak up behind me and bite the back of my arm and run away. She bites hard and leaves terrible bruises and puncture wounds. The best thing is Time Out which removes all the stimulation. It's the only thing that seems to calm her, but if you let her out too early she will stalk back over to you and attack. My best guess is that she didn't have siblings or anyone to play with and teach her that biting hurts. We love her, she can be very sweet, but I wish I could break her of these attacks. I don't know if she's frustrated or bored? She has a ton of toys and some are free-standing and she can and does play with them by herself. I just don't know. Has anyone else had this problem? ~Susan ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Ps checkout Pam Johnson Bennett (Think Like a Cat and other great books). She is the cat guru in my opinion! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Laurieskatz Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Survey Answers and a question laurie, maybe she is an alpha and you are not doing what she wants so she teaches you a lesson? sometimes, Annie will act like this. wish i could get inside their heads and then i could solve the problem. we need a Caesar for cats i think. dorlis Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: Susan, good info on the internet about human directed aggression. Yes, I suspect she was removed from her littermates too soon. We had a cat like this once...he'd had distemper as a kitten and we thought he was a little brain damaged. I wonder, if the suggestions under human directed cat aggression don't work, about trying some kitty Prozac. Laurie Our biggest issue with Autumn is that she wants constant people interaction and if you don't entertain her she will go into a rage and bite and scratch. Rage is the only way to describe it. She will sit and stare at you meow and sometimes I can't figure out what she wants. At that point it is only a countdown to her attacking me. I end up with bloody bites, bruises and scratches. We have tried very hard to break her of this.You have to do something because if you ignore her it only escalates. We have tried the squirt bottle on the vet's recommendation and she will simply sneak up behind me and bite the back of my arm and run away. She bites hard and leaves terrible bruises and puncture wounds. The best thing is Time Out which removes all the stimulation. It's the only thing that seems to calm her, but if you let her out too early she will stalk back over to you and attack. My best guess is that she didn't have siblings or anyone to play with and teach her that biting hurts. We love her, she can be very sweet, but I wish I could break her of these attacks. I don't know if she's frustrated or bored? She has a ton of toys and some are free-standing and she can and does play with them by herself. I just don't know. Has anyone else had this problem? ~Susan ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You can also buy in pill form and crush it yourself. This is the least expensive way. Mine also like Viralys which is a flavored powder and about 3 times as expensive as the pills. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Heard of it, and it is WAAAY too expensive. You can buy a pound of powder lysine for about $15, it is made by NOW and sold in many online places.. That would give you about 1644 250mg doses. It has no taste and mixed with wet food just about any cat will just eat it. It is really sort of granulated and some of mine don't like the feel so I dissolve it in a tiny bit of water. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Jane Lyons Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. on the L-Lysine, my vet ordered an oral paste for me. no one is sick right now, but i give it as a preventative. name is Enisyl-F, made by Vetoquinol in Canada. each ml contains 250mgof L Lysine HCL in a bse of purified water, sorbitol, cod liver oil, zanthan gum, tuna flavor, soy lecithin, silica aerogel, carmel color, potassium sorbate and sodium benzoate. they reccomend 1 - 2 ml a day for adults and 1ml for kittens. anyone heard of this before? got any comments? dorlis Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com wrote: Hi Sidney The General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted. Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? I was able to get rid of a really bad upper respiratory with it. I buy it in capsule form and mix the powder into cats food and my cat, who could be a forensic pathologist when it comes to detecting supplements, does not know it is there. I make sure she gets 500mg daily and although it takes time, it usually works. I also use interferon, but give it on and off each day, rather than weeks. I wonder if that would make a difference. There is a study underway (Dr. Jean Dodds ..Rabies Challenge) to prove that we over vaccinate our animals and that one rabies shot should protect an animal for its lifetime. You can Google the 'rabies challenge' and read about the study and the vets who are involved. A rabies shot can be stressful for a healthy animal. I would think twice about vaccinating an Felv kittie. Hope your General continues to thrive. Jane On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote: AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me. I have never owned a cat in my life. I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK. I was not happy. I tried to shoo him away. He was having none of it. He was like a bag of bones. And he cried so pitifully that I went and got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have milk any more than dogs are!) He drank it down so I got him another, which he drank down. The next day he was still out there. So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate the entire bowl. So the next day, when he was still there, I bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery. He ate it of course. After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered. So I took him to the vet. He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV +. You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die anyway. By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic) This boy went from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him and my husband and me. He has some really strange eating habits these days. He won't eat any one food for long. My vet wants him on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now. He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry. He'll eat one for 2-3 days and then he won't eat it and I'll change. The only problem I have is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements. He's on an immune system supplement
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AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? Diagnosed at 2.5 yo WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? I didn't do anything until he became symptomatic at 4.5 yo, which is when I found this list WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? Science Diet then; Innova Evo now WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH? Mine are all indoor; I let them go in the backyard with me sometimes, but only under supervision LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? My FeLV+ did live in the house with my 3 others, none of which became positive; they were vaccinated HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? At 2.5 yo, when he was diagnosed, he had all his nails ripped out from running from a dog, going up a brick column trying to get away. His nails got infected, and he got very sick, which the vet didn't catch. He just ran tests and said FeLV+, and gave up on him. I finally figured out what happened when the vet had tested him for FeLV and then just left him in his cage with no treatment, even after I asked him to give IV fluids if he wasn't taking water, which he wasn't. I had a horrible gut feeling, and left work to go check on him, and found him lying in his cage, almost lifeless, no fight left in him, and the vet wasn't taking care of him. Took him home with anti-biotics and nursed him back to health with fluids and assist feeding every hour or so, and antibiotics. I noticed his feet then, and realized what must have happened. He was fine for another two years, until a hurricane hit Texas and my ex-husband's family came to stay with us for a week (10 of them) and it stressed my kitty out and he developed anemia. He died about three weeks later. WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? 4.5 yo WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? anemia. I did not treat with doxycycline for hemobart at the time. Had I a do-over, I certainly would have. Strongly suspect he might have had hemobart, but at the time, I did not know about hemobart, and frankly was overwhelmed trying to help him and deal with his illness and quick demise. It was heartbreaking. ___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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he General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted. Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? Thanks, he is a really special guy. He's won all of us non-cat people in the family over (except the dog, and she still hate him). I know of Dr. Dodds from having an epileptic dog :-) I didn't realize that she was involved with cats as well. I'm going to talk to my vet this year about the vaccinations. I don't have my dog vaccinated any longer, and since General is now an inside cat, I don't really see the need for him to be vaccinated. Sidney -Original Message- From: Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 8:59 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi Sidney The General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted. Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? I was able to get rid of a really bad upper respiratory with it. I buy it in capsule form and mix the powder into cats food and my cat, who could be a forensic pathologist when it comes to detecting supplements, does not know it is there. I make sure she gets 500mg daily and although it takes time, it usually works. I also use interferon, but give it on and off each day, rather than weeks. I wonder if that would make a difference. There is a study underway (Dr. Jean Dodds ..Rabies Challenge) to prove that we over vaccinate our animals and that one rabies shot should protect an animal for its lifetime. You can Google the 'rabies challenge' and read about the study and the vets who are involved. A rabies shot can be stressful for a healthy animal. I would think twice about vaccinating an Felv kittie. Hope your General continues to thrive. Jane On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote: AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me. I have never owned a cat in my life. I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK. I was not happy. I tried to shoo him away. He was having none of it. He was like a bag of bones. And he cried so pitifully that I went and got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have milk any more than dogs are!) He drank it down so I got him another, which he drank down. The next day he was still out there. So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate the entire bowl. So the next day, when he was still there, I bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery. He ate it of course. After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered. So I took him to the vet. He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV +. You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die anyway. By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic) This boy went from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him and my husband and me. He has some really strange eating habits these days. He won't eat any one food for long. My vet wants him on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now. He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry. He'll eat one for 2-3 days and then he won't eat it and I'll change. The only problem I have is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements. He's on an immune system supplement that is a tablet I used to mix with the wet food. Now he won't eat it if I do. I've tried even mixing it in tuna and he won't eat it. So I'm in a little bit of a state over this. he is also on interferon 7 days on and 7 days off. I've also had some problems with this lately as he seems to throw up on the days that I give him interferon. He's had a kidney infection he's overcome. he has had pancreatitis that he's overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic upper respiratory infections. We think he's probably about 4-7 years old. He came to me when he was between 2-5 we think. I think he was dumped because he has such a love of humans. He's a big (15 lbs now) lapcat. He loves to be petted. He loves to be around people. He follows me every step I take, if the dog will let him. His only stress is the Mini Schnauzer who is 12 and has epilepsy :-) She hates him. He just tries to stay out of her way. (She sleeps on the bed at the foot and he sleeps
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L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective against herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny eyes) by suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to replicate. I'm not saying it doesn't do anything else, I just haven't seen anything that shows that it does. But, since it won't do any harm, I suppose giving it couldn't hurt. I would suggest buying the 1 lb. jar of powdered lysine made by NOW, a lot easier to use and less expensive than capsules. The jar contains 822 500mg doses. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of souther...@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. he General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted. Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? Thanks, he is a really special guy. He's won all of us non-cat people in the family over (except the dog, and she still hate him). I know of Dr. Dodds from having an epileptic dog :-) I didn't realize that she was involved with cats as well. I'm going to talk to my vet this year about the vaccinations. I don't have my dog vaccinated any longer, and since General is now an inside cat, I don't really see the need for him to be vaccinated. Sidney ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We adopted our cat Maggie when she was 8 weeks or so old. She was a happy healthy kitten until about 6-7 weeks later. She had gingivitis and diarrhea and her lymph nodes were the size of large grapes. We had he tested ( she was tested before we brought her home and she was negative) she tested positive this time on the ELISA test. We immediately tested our 12 year old cat Sasha and she was negative. 12 weeks later we tested her again and she was still positive so we had an IFA test done to see if it had progressed into her bone marrow. Sad to say it has, it was a very strong positive. We feed her soft food by pro plan and hard purina kitten chow. Our cats are strictly indoors. She lives with Sasha still who thank God is still negative. Maggie's main symptoms are diarrhea (lots of diarrhea), sneezing, vomiting, swollen lymph nodes, painful gums/teeth. She seems happy and as long as that is the case she will continue to have a home here with us no matter how many messes I have to clean up a week. She takes Tylan powder for her diarrhea which seems to help alot. Her vet is not that experienced at dealing with FELV positive cats so I have been getting alot of ideas from everyone's emails. Hope this helps Tanya --- On Fri, 2/6/09, amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:01 AM Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Tommy tested positive at 3 1/2 months old. He is seeing a holistic vet, who gave him Vetri-DMG (an immune system booster) and a homeopathic mixture of antivirals. The homeopathic meds are Galium and Engystol. His holistic vet recommended that I get him vaccinated one more time (which I did) for FVRCPC, and then NO MORE vaccines. Definitely not rabies, as it is a live virus. He is eating Solid Gold Indigo Moon, a grain-free holistic food. He also gets canned food twice a day. Tommy is an indoor kitty, and lives with my two negative cats. I decided not to separate them after talking with the wonderful people on this list because the exposure had already taken place, and separation would have been too stressful for all of them and me! He has not shown any signs of illness, other than he has had loose, smelly stools. I am trying a new supplement for that. He was neutered on 1/29 which I was afraid would be a stress to him, but he did really well! He is a happy, healthy, 6 month old kitten. :) In fact, I plan to have him retested in about a month. --- On Fri, 2/6/09, amanda wrote: From: amanda Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [3] Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:01 AM Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [4] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org [5] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [6] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org [7] Links: -- [1] mailto:white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp [2] mailto:white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp [3] mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [4] mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [5] https://webmail2.agoc.com/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Ffelineleukemia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffelvtalk_felineleukemia.org [6] mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [7] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I know that sometimes with dogs, thyroid issues can cause aggression, I don't know if it is the same with cats, maybe ask your vet about it. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Carmen, May I ask what the name of the sanctuary is? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Tonya Maggie's symptoms sound identical to the ones we were dealing with two years ago. We used so many supplements and remedies that I am not sure what did what, but two years later we have a kittie who seems happy and healthy with the exception of her mouth, which somedays seems irritated and somedays, not. Here are the things we used: l-lycine for the viral symptoms (upper respiratory). You can get it at a health food store. I used 500mg capsules which I opened and sprinkled into her wet food twice a day. DMG Liquid which is a formula designed to boost her immune system. We gave her a dose daily. Forti-Flora is a probiotic that helped her get rid of diarrhea and supposedly is an overall boost for her immunity. We also tried to find the best quality cat food that she would tolerate. We wound up feeding her Petguard which is available at Whole Foods. Since we were able to get rid of her symptoms we are now giving her interferon every other day, hoping to keep her immunity up and enable her to fight off secondary infections. As we've all learned, there isn't a magic pill and every kittie reacts differently. I hope Maggie is able to get rid of her symptoms and continue to enjoy the love and care you've given to her. Jane On Feb 8, 2009, at 11:01 AM, TANYA NOE wrote: We adopted our cat Maggie when she was 8 weeks or so old. She was a happy healthy kitten until about 6-7 weeks later. She had gingivitis and diarrhea and her lymph nodes were the size of large grapes. We had he tested ( she was tested before we brought her home and she was negative) she tested positive this time on the ELISA test. We immediately tested our 12 year old cat Sasha and she was negative. 12 weeks later we tested her again and she was still positive so we had an IFA test done to see if it had progressed into her bone marrow. Sad to say it has, it was a very strong positive. We feed her soft food by pro plan and hard purina kitten chow. Our cats are strictly indoors. She lives with Sasha still who thank God is still negative. Maggie's main symptoms are diarrhea (lots of diarrhea), sneezing, vomiting, swollen lymph nodes, painful gums/teeth. She seems happy and as long as that is the case she will continue to have a home here with us no matter how many messes I have to clean up a week. She takes Tylan powder for her diarrhea which seems to help alot. Her vet is not that experienced at dealing with FELV positive cats so I have been getting alot of ideas from everyone's emails. Hope this helps Tanya --- On Fri, 2/6/09, amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:01 AM Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me. I have never owned a cat in my life. I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK. I was not happy. I tried to shoo him away. He was having none of it. He was like a bag of bones. And he cried so pitifully that I went and got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have milk any more than dogs are!) He drank it down so I got him another, which he drank down. The next day he was still out there. So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate the entire bowl. So the next day, when he was still there, I bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery. He ate it of course. After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered. So I took him to the vet. He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV+. You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die anyway. By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic) This boy went from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him and my husband and me. He has some really strange eating habits these days. He won't eat any one food for long. My vet wants him on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now. He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry. He'll eat one for 2-3 days and then he won't eat it and I'll change. The only problem I have is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements. He's on an immune system supplement that is a tablet I used to mix with the wet food. Now he won't eat it if I do. I've tried even mixing it in tuna and he won't eat it. So I'm in a little bit of a state over this. he is also on interferon 7 days on and 7 days off. I've also had some problems with this lately as he seems to throw up on the days that I give him interferon. He's had a kidney infection he's overcome. he has had pancreatitis that he's overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic upper respiratory infections. We think he's probably about 4-7 years old. He came to me when he was between 2-5 we think. I think he was dumped because he has such a love of humans. He's a big (15 lbs now) lapcat. He loves to be petted. He loves to be around people. He follows me every step I take, if the dog will let him. His only stress is the Mini Schnauzer who is 12 and has epilepsy :-) She hates him. He just tries to stay out of her way. (She sleeps on the bed at the foot and he sleeps up at the head, by my head!) Every time he sneezes I worry. But he's hanging in there so far, and as far as I can tell he is prospering. He has had rabies vaccine and calici virus in the past but I don't know if we'll do rabies this year since he isn't outside now. I'll have to talk to my vet about that and the calici too. Sidney and the General -Original Message- From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:01 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? Autumn was born FELV+ and tested positive at 8 weeks and ever since. I found her outdoors at an apartment complex. We don't treat her Leukemia per se, we just try to keep her stress level down and treat conditions as they arise. Autumn eats Innova Evo. She is an only cat and an indoor cat. Last week I let her play in some powdery snow on the balconey and she LOVED it. So cute! Autumn has had some bad illnesses related to the Distemper shot. They tend to make her very ill and once caused all of her lymph nodes to swell. We couldn't pick her up without causing extreme pain. She is fine with the 3 year rabies vaccine. She is poorly socialized perhaps from not having siblings (?) and bites people so we thought it best to get the rabies. Autumn also had eye problems that cause her eyes to swell up and close. We are currently trying to revent flares with Ocufen. One drop a day in each eye. It stings:-( She usually flares after stress like if we have large amount of company. Sometimes it flares for no reason at all. She is 1 and 1/2 and seems to be thriving. Our biggest issue with Autumn is that she wants constant people interaction and if you don't entertain her she will go into a rage and bite and scratch. Rage is the only way to describe it. She will sit and stare at you meow and sometimes I can't figure out what she wants. At that point it is only a countdown to her attacking me. I end up with bloody bites, bruises and scratches. We have tried very hard to break her of this.You have to do something because if you ignore her it only escalates. We have tried the squirt bottle on the vet's recommendation and she will simply sneak up behind me and bite the back of my arm and run away. She bites hard and leaves terrible bruises and puncture wounds. The best thing is Time Out which removes all the stimulation. It's the only thing that seems to calm her, but if you let her out too early she will stalk back over to you and attack. My best guess is that she didn't have siblings or anyone to play with and teach her that biting hurts. We love her, she can be very sweet, but I wish I could break her of these attacks. I don't know if she's frustrated or bored? She has a ton of toys and some are free-standing and she can and does play with them by herself. I just don't know. Has anyone else had this problem? ~Susan ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? Stripes ~ diagnosed in 1987 at age 14 (I adopted him in 1982 at age 9). Tested because of chronic illness. No treatments other than treating the presenting health problem. Fed Friskies (didn't know any better)~ the 2 low ash canned diets and some dry food. Can't remember the name. It was not a grocery store brand. He was an inside cat, lived with Squeaky since he was one year of age (the people I adopted them from said one came from a pet store or shelter and the other from a farm). Pretty stress free life after coming with me. I am sure it was stressful for him to go to someone new at age 9. He was always the more timid cat. Not sure what he died from. He died at age 16. Was anorexic for 3 weeks. Saw vet every other day for fluids. Was getting vitamin shots, too. Again, a long time ago. He and Squeaky were my first cats. Squeaky ~ diagnosed in 1987 at age 13 (adopted in 1982 at age 8).No treatments. Friskies (the 2 low ash diets)until 199?. We switched to canned CD upon vet recommendation. Recall he having trouble eating the dry food. Don't remember why. Inside only. Lived with Stripes~ grieved when he died. No illness. Vet said he was a carrier of the FeLV virus (in his bone marrow). He died at age 22 of oral cancer diagnosed 3 weeks before. Perfectly healthy until his first dental cleaning in Sept 1996. Died less than 2 months later. Isabella ~ diagnosed when rescued in May 2007. Estimated to be 2 years of age though she has almost doubled in weight since we rescued her. She gets interferon one week on/one week off. Her adopter did more at first because she was very sick ~ very high fever. Treated with pain killer and steroids in addition to interferon. Weaned off both within the past 6 months. She eats EVO dry and Fancy Feast or Low residue canned. Inside cat now. Found her outside. No other cats. Recent stress in having her mom gone a lot with work (hope she does ok.). she is estimated to be 4. She is very healthy and weighs about 12 lbs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better understand FeLV
We have 40 FeLV cats (and several kittens) at our special needs sanctuary where they live in cage free environment with outdoor enclosed screened in areas to spend time in. I so applaud those of you who care for a FeLV kitty and offer them a forever home til there time is up. We work with rescues all across the U.S. and there are just not enough homes to go around for these special kits. I wanted to add my thoughts to the survey list: We have cats from 4 months to 12 years currently residing at our sanctuary home. We use Alpha interferon in their water daily and occasionally use oral for some of the cats. They are fed Purina Pro Plan dry and get canned food every day. The interferon in the water does help their immune systems we feel. I have had several non positive cats live with the positives and they remained negative throughout the years they were living with the FeLV cats. They also did not fight. The kitties we lost to FeLV have lymphomas, cancer, anemia (with cancer usually) or sudden total system failure (most likely caused by an undetected cancer at the time). The kittens we have worked with include: a family whose mother and two siblings died of FeLV after rescue, and four other youngsters that arrived to live with us for their lives-only one of those is still with us and doing just fine. The others we have are getting close to one year or two years and both of those ages we find to be critical times for FeLV cats- If they live through age 2 we see little health problems until age five-and then some become symptomatic at age five and others do not and can go on to live longer healthy lives. All of our FeLV are very healthy robust cats until they become symptomatic. These cats have little stress in their lives and are very happy to be back outside in their outdoor areas with the weather starting to be nice in Iowa now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Amanda, My FeLV+ kittys: Buzzy - My first positive, he was adopted in January of '08 at about one year old. He had tested negative for feline leukemia in November of '07, but tested positive shortly after he was adopted. From the time I had him he was fed Wellness. He had been abused when he lived on the streets before my sister in law found him, and he was a very nervous kitty. I will always believe that if he had a more laid-back temperment he would have lived longer. Buzz was diagnosed with anemia in July of '08. He was brought out of it with Doxycycline and Prednesolone, but it came back in October and and the meds were no longer working. I lost him the week before Thanksgiving. Orlando - I adopted him in July of '08 at 10 years old. He had been living in a barn with about 20 other cats that a woman owned. When she passed away a local no-kill shelter took him in along with all the others. About half of those cats tested positive at that time. He lived in the FeLV/FIV room of that sanctuary from January of '08 until I adopted him. He also eats Wellness mixed with extra water and Lysine. He gets a Cosequin tablet mixed in his food morning and evening. He is a very sweet laid-back no stress kind of cat. He once had a broken leg that did not heal right, so he has a crooked leg. Other then that he seems to be in excellent health. Maybe too fat. (Definitely too fat.) Tweezer - A local rescue group was keeping him in a cage when they found out that I have positive and negative cats mixed and free to roam the house. They asked me if I would take him, and when I found out he had been living in a cage for months, I adopted him. He is now approx. 2 1/2 years old. I brought him home on Sept.17th of '08. He weighed 3 1/2 lbs and felt like a skeleton. He had an upper resperatory infection, weepy eyes, ear mites, a tapeworm and was so weak he couldn't climb up one stair. I still can't believe the director of that group allowed him to be in such horrible shape. Anyway, he was put on Wellness mixed with water and Lysine and began to gain weight very quickly. He was on several runs of Doxycycline and other antibiotics and has continued to improve. Today he weights approx. 8 1/2 lbs. He has one mildly cloudy eye that the vet says is a cataract due to being malnourished as a kitten. His URI comes back now and then and gets so bad that he sneezes blood. He is once again on a round of Doxycycline. The great thing about this cat is his amazing love of life. He is the happiest little guy I have ever seen. He is so very happy to be out of a cage and feeling good. My two positives live with five negative cats who are all vaccinated against feline leukemia. All are indoor cats. I would like to put my positives on some kind of immunity boosting/vitamin supplement, but with so many making claims out there I am unsure what to trust. I know this was long, but I hope it helps. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Amanda, I feed a dumpster colony of cats. I have spayed/neutered 8 of the these cats and kept 7. Of the 7 six have tested FeLV+ more than once using the ELISHA test. These 6 were kittens ranging in age from 4 weeks to 12 weeks of age when I rescued them. I lost Bright Eyes at 7 months from FeLV. Three are now 8 months old and the other 2 are 14 months old. The babies get kitten canned and dry. The older 2 now eat Fancy Feast. They refused to eat any of the 'higher' quality canned. All received DMG, Lactoferrin, B12. B-Complex, L-Lysine, and folic acid. The babies still get the supplements. The older 2 refuse to eat canned food with the supplements added. Who would of thought dumpster kitties would get picky about their food. All are strictly indoor kitties. My negative kitties have been vaccinated and show no ill affects from mixing. All my cats have been neutered/spayed. I doubt you will find a trend. I think you will find the results of what we do for these babies is really based on a low stress environment, good nutrition, love and luck. Otherwise why would 5 be thriving while Bright Eyes died. By the way I have 3 calico kittens I just rescued this week waiting to be spayed this week end. They had a different Mom from my other rescues so I am optimistic they will be negative. Sharyl Sissy Rocket Mattie CJ Houdini and Angel Bright Eyes --- On Fri, 2/6/09, amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:01 AM Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I do not know what age Mandy became leukemia-positive. I adopted her at age 6 and she was positive at that time. She has no symptoms so I am doing no treatments at this time. My 7 cats are all strictly indoor--the other 6 are vaccinated and interact with Mandy. In two years, no one has gotten sick. Mandy also has had a UTI so is strictly fed Prescription CD or ID, both wet and dry. She is a very small cat but eats like one twice her size. Mandy is 7 right now. From looking at her, you would not know she is ill. - Original Message - From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:01 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have seven cats, the youngest being Taz was diagnosed with FeLv when she started getting sick after about 1 month with my other negative kitties all of which are vacinated. I took Taz in to get her looked at and to get her shots. That's when they tested her for FeLv and she came back positive. I feed her stinky salmon and white tuna, some Fancy Feast kitten food and some baby food, whatever I can get her to eat. She hates the Science Diet the vet recommended. I'va also boiled chicken for her for the broth and meat. I've had her on Imulan and have seen some mixed results but she is gaining weight, happy and bouncy so I'm continuing with the expensive treatments. She also get Pet Tinic everyday and DMG. I've seperated her from my other cats, which I hate because she was buddies with my three legged tuxedo kitty, but this was recommended by the vet. She said that vacinations are not a guarantee against the disease if the cats are exposed to it enough. All of my kitties are indoor kitties except one does get outdoor roaming priviledges because it gives him a better attitude. The rest of the cats get there outdoor stuff on a large screened in porch basically built just for them. It's hard having a FeLv kitty because I travel so much for work which means I board her at the vets while I'm gone which of course stresses her some. The people love her at the vet but I think it directly affects her wellness with regard to the blood work-up and down. Sorry for the long diatribe. Nancy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This is Dixie's story: For reasons unknown, a little grey full grown female came to my Mom's and began eating with the ferals she feeds and staying in a rubbermaid box I had outfitted as a shelter. I decided she should be a farm cat at my farm when I got the house built. I took her to Louisville to my long time vets at Middletown Animal Clinic to be spayed. They tested her for FeLV and, when they called to break the news, we decided to board her there until I could figure things out. She could not be released into the colony. Her teeth were the only symptom that showed and they were not bad. I made arrangements for her to stay in the garage at my Mom's and eventually took her and the Royal Princess Kitty Katt (who was terminally ill with cancer) to a trailer where we lived for a while. After I decided that Dixie could not be killed (I had no experience with FeLV+ and was lucky to find this group), I took her to Dr. Betty Boswell, DMV, a holistic vet who had treated several of my four legged friends--the doctors at MAC had originally sent me to her with a beagle and knew I was taking Dixie). Betty put Dixie on lots of supplements and we fed her the best foods available. After the Chinese pet food scar she ate no food that had grains in it. She ate Taste of the Wild, Wellness and Primal Raw. I realize that some think FeLV+ cats should not eat raw diets. It was the right thing for Dixie. She flourished for three wonderful years in which she had everything I could give her. She had wonderful Christmas trees, every toy a cat could want and more, blankets, beds, and, eventually two houses, one with a wonderful 400 sq. foot sunroom equipped with lots of windows to watch deer, turkey etc through. She suddenly had an abscess on her neck and died within a week or so. My wonderful little lady was on colostrum, lots of veggies chopped into her food (high in Vitamin C), various Standard Process supplements, and other things I got from Betty or Dr. Susan Maier, another holistic vet. She was not vaccinated for anything after the test came back. I do not know how ld she was when she came into my life but I suspect around 3-4 years. I don't know why she was on her own. She had been spayed and had wonderful manners so she may have been dumped. I don't know but I will always be grateful for the time we had together. A month after she left this world, she sent me Copper and two weeks later she sent Thomas. Both of these little guys are FeLV- to the delight of my vets at MAC who were high fiving all over the place when the tests came back. Both of the kittens came from the pine thicket that Dixie and the Royal Princess Kitty Katt came from so we were all concerned. They were extremely small (Copper ran through the links of a chain link fence without even sucking his gut in and he was about 8 weeks old) and, while their mothers gave them the best care, their mothers didn't have the food and care they would have had under ideal conditions. The story of the kittens is wonderful but has nothing to do with your questions. I urge you to find a holistic vet and consult that vet along with your regular vets. Some will consult by phone if you cannot locate one. I do not regret one minute with Dixie Louise. She was a perfectly wonderful little lady who was very protective of me and very attentive. Needless to say, I miss my little lady very much. My heart broke into a thousand pieces or more when she died laying right beside me in the Jeep that took her on many wonderful adventures. I am grateful for my time with her and grateful that she was able to leave this world after leaving the vets and without assistance in a place she always felt safe. She taught me, as did the Royal Princess Kitty Katt, to appreciate the time we have and not look at what may come. Everyone dies and everyone dies from something. The goal is to live well and be happy. Each one has to decide what that means for himself. Blessings to you and your little friends. On Feb 6, 2009, at 5:01 AM, amanda wrote: Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan.
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I just re-read your questions. Dixie Louise was an indoor cat from the day she tested positive except for a few unauthorized walk abouts. When I moved out of my Mom's (I was building a house) and into a trailer to provide her a warm winter home Dixie lived with Kitty Katt. Again, Kitty was terminally ill and I was not concerned about transmitting the disease to her. Dixie proved very good for Kitty by the way. While I did everything I could to keep stress down, Dixie's life was far from stress free. I was building a house; we moved into the house from the trailer while it was still being worked on (I won't go into it but email me before you deal with any log home company); Kitty was terminally ill and that was stressful for everyone; the trailer was difficult for her; the garage life was difficult for us; she loved to travel though so going to our house in Louisville was good for both of us. On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Cougar Clan wrote: This is Dixie's story: For reasons unknown, a little grey full grown female came to my Mom's and began eating with the ferals she feeds and staying in a rubbermaid box I had outfitted as a shelter. I decided she should be a farm cat at my farm when I got the house built. I took her to Louisville to my long time vets at Middletown Animal Clinic to be spayed. They tested her for FeLV and, when they called to break the news, we decided to board her there until I could figure things out. She could not be released into the colony. Her teeth were the only symptom that showed and they were not bad. I made arrangements for her to stay in the garage at my Mom's and eventually took her and the Royal Princess Kitty Katt (who was terminally ill with cancer) to a trailer where we lived for a while. After I decided that Dixie could not be killed (I had no experience with FeLV+ and was lucky to find this group), I took her to Dr. Betty Boswell, DMV, a holistic vet who had treated several of my four legged friends--the doctors at MAC had originally sent me to her with a beagle and knew I was taking Dixie). Betty put Dixie on lots of supplements and we fed her the best foods available. After the Chinese pet food scar she ate no food that had grains in it. She ate Taste of the Wild, Wellness and Primal Raw. I realize that some think FeLV+ cats should not eat raw diets. It was the right thing for Dixie. She flourished for three wonderful years in which she had everything I could give her. She had wonderful Christmas trees, every toy a cat could want and more, blankets, beds, and, eventually two houses, one with a wonderful 400 sq. foot sunroom equipped with lots of windows to watch deer, turkey etc through. She suddenly had an abscess on her neck and died within a week or so. My wonderful little lady was on colostrum, lots of veggies chopped into her food (high in Vitamin C), various Standard Process supplements, and other things I got from Betty or Dr. Susan Maier, another holistic vet. She was not vaccinated for anything after the test came back. I do not know how ld she was when she came into my life but I suspect around 3-4 years. I don't know why she was on her own. She had been spayed and had wonderful manners so she may have been dumped. I don't know but I will always be grateful for the time we had together. A month after she left this world, she sent me Copper and two weeks later she sent Thomas. Both of these little guys are FeLV- to the delight of my vets at MAC who were high fiving all over the place when the tests came back. Both of the kittens came from the pine thicket that Dixie and the Royal Princess Kitty Katt came from so we were all concerned. They were extremely small (Copper ran through the links of a chain link fence without even sucking his gut in and he was about 8 weeks old) and, while their mothers gave them the best care, their mothers didn't have the food and care they would have had under ideal conditions. The story of the kittens is wonderful but has nothing to do with your questions. I urge you to find a holistic vet and consult that vet along with your regular vets. Some will consult by phone if you cannot locate one. I do not regret one minute with Dixie Louise. She was a perfectly wonderful little lady who was very protective of me and very attentive. Needless to say, I miss my little lady very much. My heart broke into a thousand pieces or more when she died laying right beside me in the Jeep that took her on many wonderful adventures. I am grateful for my time with her and grateful that she was able to leave this world after leaving the vets and without assistance in a place she always felt safe. She taught me, as did the Royal Princess Kitty Katt, to appreciate the time we have and not look at what may come. Everyone dies and everyone dies from something. The
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We don't know when our positive contracted the disease. We purchased him at 4 years, being told he was perfectly healthy. He died in less than two months after we got him. When we took him to the vet we were told he was positive but for his well being should have him neutered anyway. I will forever wish we had not put him through that stress. He was infected with earmites and fleas and we had him groomed and treated. Probably more stress for him. Over a period of 4 weeks, he went from just being fatigued to having to go in to have fluid aspirated from his lungs on a weekly basis just so he could breath. In the beginning he was started on Docycyclin and another antibiotic, then interferon. He was scheduled to have a blood transfusion on a Tuesday but on the Sunday he was having difficulty breathing, having just had his lungs aspirated on the Friday so we took him to the emergency clinic where we were told we had to let him go. He died of leukemia/FIV and peritonitis. I understand FIV cannot be diagnosed without an autopsy but all the clinical signs were there. We had gone as far as humanly possible in trying to save him and it was time to let him rest. I still choke up just writing about this. We've adopted 2 needy girls since but they aren't positive. I honestly do not think I could go through the pain of another positive cat, although, if I had one, I probably would do most of the same things all over again. Our cat was too sick and the disease too far advanced to save him. Had we got him in its earlier stages and given him proper care right from the start, I like to think he'd still be with us. Lynne - Original Message - From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3831 (20090205) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Lynne, You gave him a home, love and care. It was not your fault that he had these problems when he came to you any more than it was mine that Dixie was positive. They come to us for a reason and for whatever time we are blessed with, no matter what the cost to our hearts. There is a reason. Maybe it is to enlarge our ability to give. I don't know but I do know that they are a blessing even if it is painful. Know that you did everything right for him. On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Lynne wrote: We don't know when our positive contracted the disease. We purchased him at 4 years, being told he was perfectly healthy. He died in less than two months after we got him. When we took him to the vet we were told he was positive but for his well being should have him neutered anyway. I will forever wish we had not put him through that stress. He was infected with earmites and fleas and we had him groomed and treated. Probably more stress for him. Over a period of 4 weeks, he went from just being fatigued to having to go in to have fluid aspirated from his lungs on a weekly basis just so he could breath. In the beginning he was started on Docycyclin and another antibiotic, then interferon. He was scheduled to have a blood transfusion on a Tuesday but on the Sunday he was having difficulty breathing, having just had his lungs aspirated on the Friday so we took him to the emergency clinic where we were told we had to let him go. He died of leukemia/FIV and peritonitis. I understand FIV cannot be diagnosed without an autopsy but all the clinical signs were there. We had gone as far as humanly possible in trying to save him and it was time to let him rest. I still choke up just writing about this. We've adopted 2 needy girls since but they aren't positive. I honestly do not think I could go through the pain of another positive cat, although, if I had one, I probably would do most of the same things all over again. Our cat was too sick and the disease too far advanced to save him. Had we got him in its earlier stages and given him proper care right from the start, I like to think he'd still be with us. Lynne - Original Message - From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3831 (20090205) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I agree, they do enlarge our ability to give. If I hadn't run home and googled FeLV and found this group Boo may have been euthanized the very day we got the call asking us if we wanted to put him down. If nothing else, that little guy helped educate us about this miserable disease. When we took Snowy into the vet last week, her vet talked to us about our experience with Boo and was very pleased that we did what we did for him. Turns out he had a positive cat and did all he could do for him as well. He also mentioned that there are new develpments with treating the disease but they're not yet available, at least over here. Lynne - Original Message - From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Lynne, You gave him a home, love and care. It was not your fault that he had these problems when he came to you any more than it was mine that Dixie was positive. They come to us for a reason and for whatever time we are blessed with, no matter what the cost to our hearts. There is a reason. Maybe it is to enlarge our ability to give. I don't know but I do know that they are a blessing even if it is painful. Know that you did everything right for him. On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Lynne wrote: We don't know when our positive contracted the disease. We purchased him at 4 years, being told he was perfectly healthy. He died in less than two months after we got him. When we took him to the vet we were told he was positive but for his well being should have him neutered anyway. I will forever wish we had not put him through that stress. He was infected with earmites and fleas and we had him groomed and treated. Probably more stress for him. Over a period of 4 weeks, he went from just being fatigued to having to go in to have fluid aspirated from his lungs on a weekly basis just so he could breath. In the beginning he was started on Docycyclin and another antibiotic, then interferon. He was scheduled to have a blood transfusion on a Tuesday but on the Sunday he was having difficulty breathing, having just had his lungs aspirated on the Friday so we took him to the emergency clinic where we were told we had to let him go. He died of leukemia/FIV and peritonitis. I understand FIV cannot be diagnosed without an autopsy but all the clinical signs were there. We had gone as far as humanly possible in trying to save him and it was time to let him rest. I still choke up just writing about this. We've adopted 2 needy girls since but they aren't positive. I honestly do not think I could go through the pain of another positive cat, although, if I had one, I probably would do most of the same things all over again. Our cat was too sick and the disease too far advanced to save him. Had we got him in its earlier stages and given him proper care right from the start, I like to think he'd still be with us. Lynne - Original Message - From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3831 (20090205) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman
