Hi Susan,
Thanks for the well wishes. Bailey is getting Winstrol, he has been
getting that for almost a month and it has stopped the wasting from
getting worse and my vet thinks his muscle mass is improving.
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That is so cool. When I mentioned it to our vet he said it would be too hard to get - did you have any trouble?Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Susan,Thanks for the well wishes. Bailey is getting Winstrol, he has been getting that for almost a month and it has stopped the wasting from
Susan,
My vet did say it was hard to get, but the compounding pharmacy in
town can get it and that's why I was able to. I asked them and they are
only able to get it for local vets, so it is not the easiest thing to
get. But for future reference if it comes up again, have your vet
We have a couple in town. Next time I will locate it first and then ask him to get it! Thanks.Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan,My vet did say it was hard to get, but the compounding pharmacy in town can get it and that's why I was able to. I asked them and they are only able to get it
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Belinda,
A few thoughts. I have never heard of pred causing low
energy-- usually it is the opposite. However, too much steroids over a long
period can sometimes cause something called Cushings Disease in humans and
dogs-- it did with my dog Fern. Muscle wasting and lethargy can both be
Belinda,
Do you think that trying Immuno-regulin might help? It
stimulates the immune system. I know he is on steroids to suppress the immune
system, but I think they work on two different kinds of cells. I think
that the steroids suppress B cells, which are the killer cells, while I-R and
Belinda,I'm glad to hear Bailey's hanging in there. Maybe his body is healing while he rests some and that's why he's not been up and around too much. Take care of yourself too.tonyaBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michelle,He is about the same without the diarrhea. Still
Sending all kinds of gentle hugs and soft kisses to Bailey!
Thanks for the update!
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Belinda, how is Bailey?
Michelle
Hi Michelle,
He is about the same without the diarrhea. Still sleeping alot and
little to no energy.
Although one of the AC (animal communicators) who also does healing did
some work on him yesterday and he did get around more today. He moved
more today than he has in quite a while, it
Good luck , thinking of you, and fingers crossedKindest Regards Sandra --- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:50:51 -0800 (PST)To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Bailey UpdateIs it too soon to start putting in some (just a bit) of
Belinda,
This made me think of B12 injections. They're suppose to help with
nutrition absorption. Has Bailey been getting them? Poor little pin
cushion, but maybe they'd help?
Nina
Chris wrote:
Belinda,
Thinking of you and Bailey... I know this is a crazy idea, but what about
some sort
Chris,
Don't ever hesitate to post! Any knowledge we've gained comes from
experience and each other. Besides, it's so supportive to know others
are thinking about our babies and care enough to say so.
Nina
Chris wrote:
Folks here are so knowledgeable that I sort of hesitated to send--but
I will ask my vet today, i know he was checked way back on January
3rd and 11th, but not sure about recently. She said this may just be
part of the progression of this type of anemia, since she has not dealt
with it before she doesn't know what to expect, that's why she wants to
speak with
Belinda,I obviously can't understand it. With the bloodwork looking so much better! I hope you find an answer soon. Give Bailey extra kisses from me.tBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,Well Bailey's results today show all organ functions are normal, all bloodwork except amylase
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:56
AM
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
Hi All,Well Bailey's results today show all
organ functions are normal, all bloodwork except
Message-
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 12:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
Hi All,
Well Bailey's results today show all organ functions are normal, all
bloodwork except amylase
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From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
Hi All,
Well Bailey's results today show all organ functions are normal, all
bloodwork except amylase is normal (it is high but not high enough
Hi All,
I want to thank everyone for your continued prayers and positive
energy. Well the xray didn't clear anything up, no tumors or enlarged
lymph nodes, his lungs are all clear. and all of the rest of his organs
look good, so still a mystery ... I did get the anobolic steroids and
Belinda,Is the vet sure that the wasting of the muscle mass is not just due to the continued diarrhea and dehydration? It doesn't take a lot of that with a cat Even with the feeding tube it sounds like the food was just going in and going right outIs the diarrhea under control?
Belinda, my Buddy's blood work was normal for a long time even though he
was wasting and was tired all the time. Eventually he got anemic and his
kidneys started failing. We never got a diagnosis, but I assumed lymphoma. The
vet thought possibly dry form of FIP. Corticosteroids (dex, depo)
Sauro
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
Hi All,
I want to thank everyone for your continued prayers and positive
energy. Well the xray didn't clear anything up, no tumors or enlarged
lymph nodes, his lungs are all clear
Praying the steroids help Bailey, and there's no adverse reaction for him.
love, kerry
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
Hi All,
I want to thank
Hi Tonya All,
He had diarrhea for 10 or 12 days, and I mean continuous diarrhea, it
was ozzing out involuntarily whenever wherever. It has been under
control since this last Thursday so for the last 5 days he hasn't had
it. Since Friday he has lost 4 more ozs., and is getting bonier.
Is it too soon to start putting in some (just a bit) of a/d of nutrical or something more substantial? Or is the doctor afraid it will start the diarrhea back..I am just throwing out ideas. I have no clue. But if the bloodwork is good there is hope. I hope you get the steroids going
Chris,
Will mention this to my vet.
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some sort of intestinal parasites
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Hi All,
Well Bailey's results today show all organ functions are normal, all
bloodwork except amylase is normal (it is high but not high enough at
this point to be concerned) and his HCT is up to 27%, getting close to
normal, so even though his anemia is getting better he is not ... He is
What are you feeding him? When I tube fed it was a/d which is very rich. Any way you can 'bland down' his diet?What about kaopectate or something for the diarrhea. Maybe ask vet about something like that?Thinking of you both. tBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bailey is not doing
Hi Tonya,
Yes I have changed his diet to ID it is for sensitive tummies and so
far so good, no diarrhea since Thursday night. Now if his bottom will
heal and he wouls perk up a bit. We went to the vet and they couldn't
get any blood from his legs, so they had to use his jugular. My vet
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
Hi Tonya,
Yes I have changed his diet to ID it is for sensitive tummies and so
far so good, no diarrhea since Thursday night. Now if his bottom will
heal and he wouls perk up a bit. We went to the vet and they couldn't
get any blood
Actually a veterinary oncologist told us to use that on our dog Nubi when
she was raw from diarrhea and anal gland tumors, and it did help.
Michelle
In a message dated 2/4/2006 10:29:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Belinda,I know it may sound stupid but what about A
10:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
Actually
a veterinary oncologist told us to use that on our dog Nubi when she was raw
from diarrhea and anal gland tumors, and it did help.
Michelle
In a
message dated 2/4/2006 10:29:49 P.M. Eastern Standard
I'm assuming ID has rice in it already. Rice is the only thing I can think of when it comes to 'bland' food for diarrhea purposes. Maybe ask the vet about mushing up more rice and mixing with the ID to make it blander till the diarrhea stops?I'm making wildguesses here. I really have no clue.
I would just think an ointment would work better than a cream. The ointment is what blocks the diarrhea from getting to the skin to irritate it more. Cream is not 'waterproof' as such.Also, I don't know what you're washing him with when he has these accidents, but I would use NO soap at all. I
Belinda I am sending prayers to you and Bailey,I hate to say it but it sounds like he is ready to be at peace,you have done so much for that wonderful guy.he is lucky to have you. SherryBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bailey is not doing very good, he is getting 200ccs of food a day but
Dear Belinda,
I am sitting here trying to hold back a deluge of tears
as am reading about your sweet, loving Bailey'sdecline in
condition. We have never met, but after being onthis sweet loving.
caring list forso long. you and Bailey, seem to be the inspiration
hope fort fomany guardians
aw, belinda, i'm sorry--have you asked him what he wants to do? tho you will never be ready for him to go, perhaps he is... hardest thing i ever have to do is give them permission to continue their journey wherever it takes them, and assure them that they don't need to stayto take care of me...
Belinda, lots and lots of prayers coming from me and my gang to you and Bailey. It always hurts so much to see our babies seem to be slipping away and have that helpless feeling of not knowing what we can do. Give Bailey a hug from us.Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bailey is not doing
Prayers for you and your
Bailey.
Del
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Belinda
Sauro
To: FeLV Talk List [New]
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:51
PM
Subject: Bailey Update
Bailey is not
doing very good, he is getting 200ccs of food a day but is still wasting
Oh, Belinda...my heart is breaking all over again! :( Could Baily have
cancer in his bowels? I'm no vet, but Ewok's situation is fresh on my
mind...I will certainly keep you two in my thoughts...
Jen
But if you tame me, then we shall need
Oh Belinda, it doesn't sound good. It doesn't sound like he's
responding to the meds and 20mg of Pred seems like so much! Do you
have high hopes for the leukeran? I don't know girl, I hate to think
it, I know how much you want him to get better, but I know first hand
from seeing Gypsy in the
Belinda
I know how you are feeling...I have been reading your posts about
Bailey
over the past few weeks and thinking how close they were to my OJ
I have been hoping for a miracle for our kitties and I am still hoping
for
Bailey...And hoping that someday we will find the key to beat this
God, Belinda, I am so sorry to hear this. I have thought about him
often. It does sound like there is cancer somewhere in him. Lymphoma
can be hard to find, though. They can do a full-body x-ray, or they can try the
first drug in the chemo series (starts with an E and is a shot with no side
Belinda,
Poor Bailey.I'm so sorry he isn't getting better and fading away before your eyes.
My heart goes all out to him and you. He will be in my thoughts and prayers. I know it is hard on you.
If his time is near at least you will be with him. It sounds like he is barely hanging on. You
- Original Message -
From: Del H.
Daniels
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:18
AM
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
Prayers for you and your
Bailey.
Del
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From:
Belinda Sauro
Belinda,
I havent posted very much lately
but I just want to tell you that your story about Bailey really gave me
inspiration. Wish I were knowledgeable enough to help more but I know
that the great people here will help you with that. But my thoughts are
with you Bailey
Chris
Yes. Combo shots of dex and depo. Depo is long-term and sort of instead of pred, can last about a month. I am not sure I would even ask about Depo though at this point. If he is improving on low doses of pred I think I would try the higher doses. The thing about Depo is that it stays in the
Michelle,
Yes I think I will stick with the pred for now, something is working
and I don't want to upset the apple cart. His bottom is looking a bit
better, but now Joey has the runs too (he sneaks the AD while I'm
getting Bailey's food ready, it's probably pretty rich for him).
Bailey
Belinda,
I am so happy to hear the great news that Bailey's HCT
is up! How wonderful! And he's getting plenty of
nourishment too! I understand you are worried about
the diarrhea. Hopefully, that will get under control
soon, and he can start feeling like his old self
again! I will pray that
Hi Belinda, It does sound like a good report for Bailey..I just wanted you to know what Bandy's cytology report said...I don't think I have ever posted it here. Cytologic Diagnosis: Severe erythroid hypoplasia with normal myeloid maturation; megakaryocytes present with normal maturation... I
Hi Belinda,
I read the pathologist report you posted, but didn't
understand what it meant. Can you explain what it
means in layman's terms?
Thanks so much!
Wendy
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Wendy,
This is what the pathologist actually wrote on the bone marrow report,
the other is wha Michele found while looking up preleukemia, a term my
vet had not heard before or knew what the pathologist meant by it,
that's why she needed to talk with him:
Description: the slides are
Belinda,
Thanks for taking the time to explain Bailey's
condition to me. I guess the pathology report is not
what you wanted to hear, but better than it could have
been, right?
Belinda, I am a firm believer in miracles too, and
will be praying for little Bailey.
Hugs,
Wendy
Hi Kerry,
It looks like in Bandy's case his bone marrow is still producing a
health amount of mature red cells [[normal myeloid maturation;
megakaryocytes present with normal maturation]], whereas
Bailey's is tyring to produce them but the virus is interfering with
them maturing and being
Now we just need to get his bottom healed up and get him feeling
better so my little happy cat will shine again!
Belinda,
Prayers for Bailey's remission kicking in quickly.
I just wanted to let you know that aloe gel really helped Gypsy's sore
bottom when it was in the same condition as
Belinda,I don't know anything from the test results you sent, but it sounds like you have a plan, and know what you're dealing with now. Good luckand head butts to Bailey.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes. Combo shots of dex and depo. Depo is long-term and sort of instead of pred, can
There are a number of probiotics available in health food stores and
lactinex (sorry about the spelling but it is close) is available in a lot of
pharmacies that will help until your order gets in. As the pharmacist.
Mine likes critters and will do what she can to help. If you can find
Oh my God, Belinda, that is so amazing about his HCT! Knock on wood!
So, so amazing! Please keep us updated!
Slippery elm sometimes helps with diarrhea too, and is good for nausea as
well.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/23/2006 5:50:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually, Simon only ate yogurt once and then decided he didn't like it.
What he was crazy for was sour cream, but that does not have the probiotics in
it that help diarrhea the way yogurt does. It also depends, though, how
Bailey does with milk products-- when Lucy first got loose stools
OK. Nix the yogurt then. I was thinking that's what Simon was eating when he was so sick. I know I always eat it when I'm on antibiotics or sick.Poor Bailey!t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Actually, Simon only ate yogurt once and then decided he didn't like it. What he was crazy for was
It is true that I don't think I would give a lot of dex long-term.But
I have seen it help short-term, like giving one or two dex shots and then
just continuing with the pred-- the oncologist started simon off with one dex
shot and then did pred for a while, e.g. And i have seen it help for
Michelle,
I asked her about the wrong thing I meant to ask her about depo,
wasn't that the other thing that you used that helped Simon?
would give a lot of dex long-term
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Belinda good luck over the next few days thinking of you
love Sandra Tabbs
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Belinda,
Please know that you and Bailey are constantly in my thoughts.
Joan
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Hi
Hey Belinda,
I'm sending out prayers today for Bailey. I hope he
sails through the procedures and whatever is done
helps him. It's so frustrating to watch our kitties
not eat, so the feeding tube will hopefully solve
that. I'm praying for strength for you also during
this tough time.
:)
Wendy
Bailey and I thank you Wendy :)
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Me too Belinda, your stomach must be tied up in knots. When are his
procedures being done? We're all thinking about you guys. Let us know
as soon as you are able.
Nina
wendy wrote:
Hey Belinda,
I'm sending out prayers today for Bailey. I hope he
sails through the procedures and whatever
Hi All,
Bailey's number is down to 15% now (he's been on the epogen for 5
shots and last blood work was 6 day's ago so I'm really worried), so I
did go ahead with the aspirate, it will take 3 to 5 days for an answer.
In the meantime now I can give him the pet tinic, prednisolone, doxy,
I am hoping too. Bailey has been such an inspiration to all of
us. I have found dexamethasone to be helpful with anemia where it is
caused by lymphoma-- in combo with chemo.Kerry had luck with it with
Bandy too, incombo with all that other stuff.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/17/2006
Belinda,
I am glad that Bailey came through the procedures and
is angry! That's probably a good thing. He's still
got some spirit! Please keep us posted on him!
:)
Wendy
--- Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
Bailey's number is down to 15% now (he's been on
the epogen
Belinda, just as a pep talk-- Simon's HCT went down to 13 from lymphoma and
then back up to 32 with steroids and chemo. He died two months later from
anemia, but that final anemia came on suddenly and the oncologist said it was an
auto-immune response to the cancer (or maybe the chemo). But
Belinda,I hope the vet finds something definitive to help your sweet Bailey too. I hope he adjusts to the feeding tube and stops that hissing. It's so hard when you hate to stress them out, but you have to take care of themtBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,Bailey's number
Belinda,
I'm so happy to hear Bailey made it through his anesthesia. I was so
worried about him. I know he's not out of danger by any means, but at
least now he has a chance to keep some weight on while you figure out
more ways to help him. I don't blame him one little bit for being
upset!
Michelle,
Thank you I am still hoping and praying for a good outcome. Bailey
is resting a bit uncomfortably, I just gave him some pain meds and about
15 cc's of food with his pet tinic in it, he kept it down. I am going
to give him the rest of his meds and more food at 8 or 8:30, I
Belinda~
Prayers going out for Bailey you.
Hugs,
Patti
, January 12, 2006 9:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
Hi All,
Bailey is going to have a bone marrow asperate to find out what is
causing his anemia on Tuesday, since he will have to be put under
anesthesia for this I am going to have a feeding tube put in too
Belinda,
I'm sorry if I missed the update on Bailey after his bone marrow test
and feeding tube were put in. How is he doing? Did you find out
anything more conclusive? Please let us know when you have the time and
energy. My thoughts and prayers are with you and Bailey.
N
Belinda Sauro
Hi Nina,
His bone marrow aspirate will be this coming Tuesday, my vet is out of
town until then and she is teh only one I want to do it. There are 3
other vets there but she did Buddie's tube and I want her to do Bailey's
too. I don't see the other vets there unless it is an emergency and
belinda, i have no ideas to offer, but wanted you to know that you and bailey remain in my thoughts...-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN:
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Belinda,
I'm sorry, I thought he had already gone through the procedure. It must
be torturous to have to wait, but I do understand waiting for someone
you trust. It's the same for human health care too. I'll never get
used to the fact that people are made to wait for appointments when they
Sending prayers and good thoughts...
Michelle
Belinday,Prayers continued for you and little Bailey.tBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,Bailey is going to have a bone marrow asperate to find out what is causing his anemia on Tuesday, since he will have to be put under anesthesia for this I am going to have a feeding tube
I found the 1st time.
My thougths are with you and BAiley
Carla
Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:09:20 -0800
From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bailey Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Is this him Carla?
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PO Box 39079
Denver, CO 80239
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Belinda,The only thing I can think of that she meant is that he's so anemic he's got low blood pressure? I'm just getting online so I'm hoping you had some good news when you got the blood work.tonyaBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bailey's number is holding at 18%, but there is
Hey Belinda,
I am so sorry you and Bailey are going through this.
Your panic is very obvious. I am praying that you
find some peace in what is happening and that Bailey
pulls through this dangerous place. I know it will be
hard, but try to stay calm so that Bailey won't pick
up on you being
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