Miss Caroline has gotten a TINY bit better. I fixed her up a nest in the
linen closet, with the door cracked open. Sometimes she will go and get in
it, and then the growling is not as severe. Sometimes she chooses to still
be in the sink, though, and then we get the growling, the bared teeth,
Hideyo,
I so hope this year is much better for you and all your kitties remain in
good health.
On 12/31/06, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hideyo,thank YOU for all you do for us and your fur kids.I hope for a much
better year for you and all of us.Bless you
Sherry and my 4 beautiful
Ugh. I come home from work yesterday and every single cat I have (except
Caroline, who is isolated) has runny nose and sneezing. Of course Missy,
with her bad immune system, has it worse than anyone; she's already got
piles of yellow discharge coming out of her nose. And of course my vet is
I thought this was interesting and one of the better ones out there. Much
better than that Cornell page. I'm not sure what I think of his opinion of
the SNAP test being highly accurate, though. Maybe it is in the context he
is using the term.
http://www.2ndchance.info/flv.htm
--
Rescuties -
My apologies to Missy. I can only speak from experience. :)) By the way, I
know what a grey tabby is but what does a blue tabby look like? You can
imagine the shades of blue I am thinking of.
Have you tried the Feliway spray in her nesting area? It will make her feel
safer. I used
On 1/1/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My apologies to Missy. I can only speak from experience. :)) By the
way, I know what a grey tabby is but what does a blue tabby look like? You
can imagine the shades of blue I am thinking of.
Here are all the tabby colors:
A brown tabby has
And Missy and I take umbrage at your statement. It is quite clear to us
that blue tabbies rule the world!:)
sigh, those blue ones--they're always SO jealous that they're missing the
red gene
--
Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
AIM /
Hi Kelley,
You can try an off brand of Feliway. Petsmart sells one called At
Ease by NaturVet. I've used both and they seem pretty comparable.
Your sweet Missy may rule the world, but I'm betting she does it with
her charm and beauty. I didn't even tell Ursula, (my Calico girl, who
rules
I'm wondering if Shimmer brought the URI back from the vet. You can try
the children's nose drops called Little Noses. Do you have any
antibiotics in the house? Here's a quick paste of some of our
discussions on URIs:
*Treatment for URI
and immune booster*
What my vet told me is that the
Kelley,
Thanks! I have 9 cats; 3 of whom recently tested a faint + for FeLv (they
are part of a litter of 4 foster kittens). This article gives me a bit of
hope. My real cats were unwittingly exposed to 2 of the fosters, as they had
originally tested negative. I decided to have them
I was in the exact same situation, except I only had one foster kitten who
tested faint +. I was FREAKING OUT. The kitten later tested negative, as
did all her littermates. I really wish they didn't have a faint +. I found
it very confusing. The best info I could find said a faint + meant
HAPPY NEW YEAR, CAT PEOPLE!!!
Thank you everyone for the responses to my food allergy question. I forgot
you're all on vacation, I put my question out there and then left to get ready
to visit friends for New Years Eve, y'all answered back right away and I wasn't
home to read it...
I'm pretty
I just got over a terrible cold myself, so I understand how your kitties
feel! It can be brought in that same way as a human cold (they are both
viruses), so it's possible you brought it in the house on you, if you
visited a shelter, or touched any outside cats, it could have come in on
your hands
Oh, wow, my Miranda is technically a blue tabby then! All this time I have
called her gray/silver.
http://ucat.us/Miranda2005-2.jpg (granted the lighting here makes her look
pink)
http://ucat.us/Miranda12-26-2006-3.jpg
http://ucat.us/Miranda12-26-2006-4.jpg
Phaewryn
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Thanks Marilyn, I don't mind the work if it helps us figure out this problem.
I know I'm supposed to add some type of vitamins and bone meal if I do
homemade, I'll check the archives and net for a recipe and supplement source.
He's sleeping in my lap now. :o)
Beth
So is Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, Junior Partner (and a bunch of ferals I try to
assist). I stand by my Calico comments. Dixie is not easily
offended.The Royal Princess Kitty Katt stayed offended. Grey/Blue
tabbies are so easy to live with.
The three kittens I am fostering, whose mom tested a faint positive
12/24, have ongoing diarrhea.
They have received Albon and Metronidazole but the diarrhea (liquid)
continues.
They are eating Purina One kitten chow, plus quite a mix of what is
available around the house (Science Diet adult,
How long have they been on Albon and metronidazole? And how old are they?
Good appetites, playful? Kittens often have diarrhea. I wouldn't be too
worried at this point.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The three kittens I am fostering, whose mom tested a faint positive
12/24, have ongoing
Try Apple Pectin and/or Metamucil in small amounts. Also try
probiotics/yogurt with active ingredients.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion
FELV doesn't usually cause diarrhea (not in itself, though I believe lymphoma
can,
and FELV does cause lymphoma). However, bad food is the #1 cause. Purina is
crap,
throw it away, feed it to the raccoons, just get rid of it. Feed a high quality
kitten food, like Innova, Wellness, or Chicken Soup
My first impulse is to not suspect felv. It would be highly unusual for
them all, esp at the same time, to display the same symptom, (diarrhea)
as an indication of felv compromising their immune systems. It is much
more likely a product of immature gi's dealing with your smorgasborg
feeding
Everyone has clear nasal discharge and sneezing, except Missy who is covered
in yellowish snot. I just cleaned about a pound of it off her tiny nose,
poor baby. Going to get meds tomorrow.
On 1/1/07, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got over a terrible cold myself,
You wrote:
Just my opinion, mind you, but the point of allergy diets is to eliminate
possible allergens, to try to figure out what is the cause. So doesn't it make
sense to use a food that eliminates MORE stuff rather than less?
Phaewryn
I totally agree, it is crazy how many extra natural
I got to doing some digging, and came upwith this...
Purina ONE feline growth ingredients:
Chicken, chicken by-product meal, soy flour, corn gluten meal, brewers rice,
beef tallow preserved with mix d-tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), corn
meal, fish meal, poultry by-product meal, natural
Thank you for your suggestions. We are going to change the
smorgasboard into Innova Evo only.
Cast of characters:
Our cats:
Smokey, 3.5 yrs, healthy
Bandit, 3.5 yrs, healthy
Otis, ~13 yrs, FIV+, hyperthyroid
Gussie, 11 yrs, diabetic, brain damage from hypothyroid coma induced
by too much
I would try just evo, and if it continues, I would ask the vet to try a week
course of metronidazole (flagyl) to clear up whatever is causing it.
Michelle
oops-- sorry, I had not read the original post. I see they are already on
metronidazole. Yes, then I would focus on diet.
Michelle
if diet does not fix it, I would get a fecal test sent out. Some parasites
and other things need specific treatment.
Michelle
Lysine and/or amoxicillin should get rid of it. If not, try Immuno-regulin
as well with the immune-compromised kitty. Sometimes lysine alone will get
rid of uri's.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/1/2007 7:06:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ugh. I come home
Keep in mind that a lot of times giardia does not show up on fecal. How long
have they been on metronidazole? Have they been dewormed, preferably with
Drontal?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if diet does not fix it, I would get a fecal test
sent out. Some parasites and other things need
Hideyo, I just read this and am so, so sorry. I can not believe all your
losses. Please call if you ever need to talk.
Michelle
That may be the case. I do find it bizarre that all of a sudden I'm getting
so many positives for trich... but then, there wasn't a test before, so that
explains why I just began to find them. Err DUH! If you don't test for it,
you don't KNOW about it. I just am glad it's finally becoming known,
Ok I did the paypal part.. I think I need help with outlook express.
Thanks
Sally
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Phaewryn
O'Gwynn
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Sorry
It's
info if your vet needs to know where to get the kits or needs more info)
http://www.fabcats.org/tritrichomonas.html (this is a link that has more abou
t trich)
Now that I read this article, I realize that our rescue group vet
mentioned this in connection with an adult with persisent diarrhea
Try Apple Pectin and/or Metamucil in small amounts. Also try
probiotics/yogurt with active ingredients.
We are using Purina veterinary diets fortiflora mixed into IVD/Royal
Canin limited ingredient wet food at night. I don't know whether to
continue this, with the stop the smorgasboard plan
Keep in mind that a lot of times giardia does not show up on fecal. How long
have they been on metronidazole? Have they been dewormed, preferably with D
rontal?
They were on met for 10 days (off now). They've been dewormed twice
with Drontal.
Lynette
You cannot add too many probiotics.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
Oh yeah, I completely understand! I don't do raw or homemade myself for JUST
that
reason, too much effort (and money)! It might be ok to just feed him the
chicken and
turkey you are plus a bit of a general supplement, like say Feline Missing
Link, or
Vita-tabs, or anything just as a general
probiotics are good, no matter what you feed, I would continue to add the
probiotics!
I'm currently using the Purina fortiflora packs myself, as my vet sent my cat
home
from the hospital with an opened box, and I think it's a good product, he seems
improved already. Normally I wouldn't buy
How does the poo smell (fouler than usual diarrhea)? Is it greenish at all? Is
it a
pattie-like consistency, similar to cow patties? Trich is usually greenish cow
pattie
like poo with a TERRIBLE smell, very odorific.
Phaewryn
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Hi everyone! I have been very busy and am trying to catch up with the
postings and everything happing. I hope everyone is doing fine and that we all
have
the VERY best new yr!:) I have a question...might have been asked /answered
already. My entire household has just gotten over nasty URI.
Thanks, Michelle - I miss her more every day - she truly believed that I
was her mommy as I was the first thing whom she saw when she first
opened her eyes - I would take her to work with me every day so that I
could bottle feed her for the first three weeks of her life - god I miss
her so much -
How does the poo smell (fouler than usual diarrhea)? Is it greenish at all? I
s it a
pattie-like consistency, similar to cow patties? Trich is usually greenish co
w pattie
like poo with a TERRIBLE smell, very odorific.
It's quite odorific. However, it is brown, not green. Just darker than
Oh yeah, I completely understand! I don't do raw or homemade myself for JUST
that
reason, too much effort (and money)! It might be ok to just feed him the chic
ken and
turkey you are plus a bit of a general supplement, like say Feline Missing Li
nk, or
Vita-tabs, or anything just as a
Hideyo, I'm so sorry - many prayers and good
wishes for her peace. Sleep soft...
Gloria
At 05:20 PM 12/18/2006, you wrote:
My little gentle soul, Lizzie passed away this
morning she is the sweetest and kindest and
most affectionate soul I have ever counted I
have bottle fed her from
I don't know, but she sounds like she is having either cramps or gas. I
really don't know what to do about cramps in an IBD cat... but MAYBE a heat
pack under he belly could make her more comfortable. But as to why now, and
not before, I have no idea. Maybe before she was just hiding her pain
I did put a hot water bottle under a cushion, and she is laying on it. She
definitely has not had this symptoms before-- I can tell it is not something
she has had and hidden. She looks terrible. I don't have to wonder about
someone sneaking her anything-- I myself gave her dry evo for a few
so it's light in color? It could still be trich though, even if it's not the
right
color, I would do the testing and see what comes up. Maybe take in a mixed poo
sample from the box, a dab from each kitten. How long ago were they weaned? I
missed
their age I think? Is it patty-like, it holds
Mine get occasional fancy feast too, it's not too bad if it's limited to a
snack, and
not the primary food source. I use it to hide medicine in all the time, it's a
great
kitty junk food. Just remember that's what it is, and use it accordingly. You
wouldn't eat a big mac and a large fry for all
Maybe you vet could give her something for the pain, at least. The IBD is so
hard, because anything you can normally give to a cat to help them makes the
IBD flare up. I feel bad for her and you! I'm glad I don't have any IBD
here, it would drive me insane, I think. What about Slippery Elm? Hasn't
One of my own cats, Marie, developed colitis as a result of tritrichomonas
foetus. Took months to get her through it. Her lower intestines were so
inflamed that she was in pain and did not want to eat. What really worked for
her was a depo medrol injection. That got the inflammation down
Were Maris's symptoms constant, or only at a particular time of day? Lucy has
had colitis symptoms before, treated with pred and flagyl, just has never had
these episodes of a few hours a day of visible dicomfort. other times of day
she eats, etc., but this is the second time in 3 nights she
Hideyo,
I am very sorry for you loss. You are in my prayers.
Sally
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G. Lane
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 8:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: please add my Lizzie to CLS and prayer list
Marie was pretty consistently miserable. It was obvious that her tummy hurt a
lot. And she was leaking watery/bloody feces. (Didn't even look like feces.
Very scary.) Any chance that the pred is affecting the timing of Lucy's
discomfort?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Were Maris's
She was down to every other day at 1.25 mg, in the morning. I started giving
it to her twice a day, same dose, starting last night.
My guess is that it has to do with her digestion cycle. She has only been
moving her bowels at night, and maybe the food hits her colon around this time
and she
She still looks out of it, but I offered her the water bowl and she seemed
interested but then saw it was just water and looked at me. So I offered her
her
raw food, and she started eating. While laying down. I can't figure out what
she is feeling.
Michelle
Hi Sweetie,
I'm sorry to hear Lucy is so uncomfortable. Gypsy has been acting a
little off the last few days too. I'm so lucky that she doesn't seem to
tire of her turkey mush. I know that if I were to take to my bed she'd
be in big trouble. She still needs me to pet her when she eats. If
Aww, I really feel for you guys. I am so familiar with what you are
going through. If she's eating the raw, I'd stick to that. Consistency
really does seem to be the key around here. I think she just feels
crummy. It's a good sign that she still wants to eat, even if you have
to bring the
Dear Sally, thank you so very much -- I know that 2006 has been a very
sad year for you as well -- and Tiny and Lizzie are probably watching us
from kitty heaven smiling...
I am so very sorry of your loses as well..
Hideyo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL
Hi Kayte,
I'm sorry your son was in the hospital. That is no good, especially around
Christmas.
Human URI and cat URI aren't interchangeable. Even though I know it seems
that way sometimes - my cats and I are all sick right now!
On 1/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
The reglan actually seemed to make her feel worse-- very restless in addition
to discomfort. That can be a side effect of it.
She will not eat the mush anymore, no matter what. She does want her raw food
again, with the feline futures, and so she is eating that. She ate quite a
bit of it
Nina,
Has Gypsy ever had this thing of only feeling sick at a certain time of
day?
Michelle
In a message dated 1/1/2007 11:05:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Sweetie,
I'm sorry to hear Lucy is so uncomfortable. Gypsy has been acting a little
off the last few days
Not that I've noticed, but come to think of it, when she's having an
episode she does usually feel worse at night than in the daytime. I
attributed it to her being allowed to play in the yard during the day
and figured she must have eaten something out there. A blade of grass
might set her
An interesting topic that always peaks my interest. I believe there are a
few zoonotic diseases that can have upper respiratory effets in both cats
and humans, and are transmissible visa-versa, namely Chlamydia and
Tuberculosis (both very rare) come to mind, but there's another too, that I
can't
I can also tell you when I lowered Bailey's pred his tummy aches due
to undiagnosed pancreatitis seemed to be worse. And I know of one cat
that has been on pred for 10 yrs because of IBD, she has to be on about
2.5 and hasn't had a flared up for years until recently. After a week
or so and
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