Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
That and if it gets a bt humid like it has been around here the last couple of years, it gets hard all over, even in the storage bucket. Did not like it at all. World's Best may be a bit pricey, but it last a long tim if you scoop 2 times a day and kills the odor, clumps good and most of all, all my cats like it. That is the most important part because if they do not like it, they will go outside of the box every time. Beth wrote: > I tried Sweat Scoop once. It was like cement when they peed & it dried. I > literally had to take a hammer to get it off the bottom of the littr pan. > Beth > > Katy Doyle wrote: > > >Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got > >good online reviews. > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > > > >> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it > >> before? > >> > >> I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my > >> town. > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> > >>> Same here - I might try it on a very small group. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson > >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM > >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I > >>> won't > >>> switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! > >>> > >>> good to know, thanks for sharing! > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Terri Brown" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> > >>> > Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. > >>> > Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this > >>> > > >>> > I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the > >>> > switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box > >>> > odors. > >>> > > >>> > Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. > >>> > > >>> > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 > >>> > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi > >>> > =^..^= > >>> > - Original Message - > >>> > From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> > >>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > >>> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM > >>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just > >>> > checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an > >>> > ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All > >>> > Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus > >>> > and > >>> > haven't opened/tried it yet. > >>> > > >>> > I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to > >>> > use > >>> > something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was > >>> > getting > >>> > so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping > >>> > clay - > >>> > not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using > >>> regular > >>> > litter and baking soda. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to > >>> others > >>> > I > >>> > know who are using the clumping litter. > >>> > > >>> > Cindy > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > - Original Message - > >>> > From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> > >>> > To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> > >>> > Sent:
Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
QUESTION: Why do they drag the bowls around? Are they trying to hide it from the others. Is it a tihng they inherited from wild ancestors? Harley does not hide food , but his sister Dee does. She will drag towels off the towel bar, rugs or whatever is handy to cover the food bowl when she is done eating. I have had them both since they were 3 months and before that they were inside cats with their previous owner. They were never wild and forced to hide their food from others. Still she hides it. I think Harley is related to Bengal tigers as he loves the water. Natalie wrote: > I've been using trays under the water bowls for years - sometimes the water > bowls are dragged clear across a large roomI also place bowls with dry > food into larger flat dishes or trays! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:34 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I us Totes too. Our shelter has them in the "Frat House" room where their > are a bunch of boys who make a mess. We had to put a tray under their water > bowls too because they always had water all over the floor. > Beth > > MaiMaiPG wrote: > > >Totes are wonderful. I leave the top off and the boys are young > >enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are > >wonderful too. I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who, > >late in life, had issues getting positioned. Besides the totes are a > >lot cheaper and more appropriately sized. FYI: They make great > >outdoor shelters too. > >On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > > >> > >> I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" > >> however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I > >> will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have > >> used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used > >> to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd > >> awful after they had used the box even once and even customers > >> complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go > >> back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because > >> people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was > >> scooped on a regular basis. > >> > >> For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large > >> Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats > >> can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from > >> peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our > >> cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. > >> > >> Edna > >> > >> > >>> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > >>> From: athenapities...@gmail.com > >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. > >>> It got > >>> good online reviews. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone > >>>> used it > >>>> before? > >>>> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Harley and Casey bat at the water oming down in their fountains, like they are playing with it. That creates a puddle around the fountain. The rest of the group just drinks water. Harley also likes to play with the water whn I take a shower. He tries to bite it as it comes down. Also, Casey paws at the fountain like she was covering it, hiding it from the others. She usually moes the whole thing about 2". Have to watch it when I get up in the night or I stumble over it since it is in the bathroom. Other one is in the kitchen. For a while, I thought the units were leaking until I saw her doing it. Beth wrote: > I us Totes too. Our shelter has them in the "Frat House" room where their are > a bunch of boys who make a mess. We had to put a tray under their water bowls > too because they always had water all over the floor. > Beth > > MaiMaiPG wrote: > > >Totes are wonderful. I leave the top off and the boys are young > >enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are > >wonderful too. I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who, > >late in life, had issues getting positioned. Besides the totes are a > >lot cheaper and more appropriately sized. FYI: They make great > >outdoor shelters too. > >On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > > >> > >> I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" > >> however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I > >> will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have > >> used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used > >> to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd > >> awful after they had used the box even once and even customers > >> complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go > >> back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because > >> people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was > >> scooped on a regular basis. > >> > >> For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large > >> Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats > >> can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from > >> peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our > >> cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. > >> > >> Edna > >> > >> > >>> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > >>> From: athenapities...@gmail.com > >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. > >>> It got > >>> good online reviews. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone > >>>> used it > >>>> before? > >>>> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter dangers
I have tried the chicken feed also and came up with the same pros and cons. If we could just find a feed that was ground just a tad finer, it would be great. At our local elevator, they have hog feed but it is ground too fine and is a bit dusty epecially when Dee gets in the box. She covers for an hour after she is done and raises a dust storm. I didn't have problems with weevils. You might try a local elevator/feed store if one is near you, the chick feed might be even cheaper. I think I got mine for under $7.00 for 50 lbs. And if it doesn't work for the litter box, put it out for the deer, birds and little creatures. Just be sure it is a healthy distnce from the house or they will be inviting themselves in for anything else they can find. Beth Noren wrote: > Yes, I've used "Dumor" brand "Starter/Grower Chick Feed". I get it > from Tractor Supply Co., think it was $13.00 for 50lbs? last time I > got it. It's a bit of a hike to TSC, so I don't always use it. Plus. > my husband complains that it doesn't handle odor well enough. Pros: > 1.price 2.low dust 3.biodegradable 4.doesn't come from strip > mining. 5.safer. Cons: 1.odor control 2.doesn't clump as hard as > clay 3.doesn't sift as easily as clay 4.some people have problems > with weevils in it, especially in summer. Overall I like it, > especially after paying 40-50 bucks for a much smaller bag of World's > Best, which is pretty similar. > > Hope this helps, > Beth N. > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Lorrie wrote: > > I've often wondered and worried about this chemical stuff in > > the clumping litter. A friend of mine uses ground chicken corn. > > Have any of you tried this? She says it's not only safer but > > much less expensive. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I tried Sweat Scoop once. It was like cement when they peed & it dried. I literally had to take a hammer to get it off the bottom of the littr pan. Beth Katy Doyle wrote: >Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got >good online reviews. > > > > >On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > >> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it >> before? >> >> I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my >> town. >> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: >> >>> Same here - I might try it on a very small group. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> >>> I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I >>> won't >>> switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! >>> >>> good to know, thanks for sharing! >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Terri Brown" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> >>> >>> > Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. >>> > Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this >>> > >>> > I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the >>> > switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box >>> > odors. >>> > >>> > Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. >>> > >>> > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 >>> > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi >>> > =^..^= >>> > - Original Message - >>> > From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> >>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >>> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM >>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> > >>> > >>> > Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just >>> > checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an >>> > ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All >>> > Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus >>> > and >>> > haven't opened/tried it yet. >>> > >>> > I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to >>> > use >>> > something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was >>> > getting >>> > so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping >>> > clay - >>> > not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using >>> regular >>> > litter and baking soda. >>> > >>> > Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to >>> others >>> > I >>> > know who are using the clumping litter. >>> > >>> > Cindy >>> > >>> > >>> > - Original Message - >>> > From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> >>> > To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> >>> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM >>> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> > >>> > >>> > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! >>> > > >>> > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust >>> > Most >>> > > >>> > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning >>> > > >>> > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to >>> > litter. >>> > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline >>> > > friends >>> > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even >>> > lung >>> > > cancer. >>> > > >>> > > Most litters are load
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I've been using trays under the water bowls for years - sometimes the water bowls are dragged clear across a large roomI also place bowls with dry food into larger flat dishes or trays! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I us Totes too. Our shelter has them in the "Frat House" room where their are a bunch of boys who make a mess. We had to put a tray under their water bowls too because they always had water all over the floor. Beth MaiMaiPG wrote: >Totes are wonderful. I leave the top off and the boys are young >enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are >wonderful too. I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who, >late in life, had issues getting positioned. Besides the totes are a >lot cheaper and more appropriately sized. FYI: They make great >outdoor shelters too. >On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > >> >> I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" >> however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I >> will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have >> used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used >> to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd >> awful after they had used the box even once and even customers >> complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go >> back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because >> people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was >> scooped on a regular basis. >> >> For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large >> Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats >> can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from >> peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our >> cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. >> >> Edna >> >> >>> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 >>> From: athenapities...@gmail.com >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> >>> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. >>> It got >>> good online reviews. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone >>>> used it >>>> before? >>>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Our shelter uses Feline Pine. Beth Susan Hoffman wrote: >I had the same experience with the feline Pine. It smells like moldy wood to >me. Bought one bag and never again. > >I think we may need to make a distinction between rescue households with a lot >of cats and a constant parade of fosters coming and going and a household with >just a few pet cats. Mine is a rescue household and I have adopters coming >too the house so I have to make sure it doesn't stink. I've been using >clumping litter for more than 10 years and we've never had a problem. (When I >fostered kittens though I used the old fashioned non-clumping clay litter >because kittens have been known to try to eat litter.) > > > >--- On Fri, 7/8/11, Edna Taylor wrote: > >> From: Edna Taylor >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:57 PM >> >> I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too >> large" however, I noticed that others have responded with no >> problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the >> original emails). I have used Feline Pine at home >> before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at >> their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd >> awful after they had used the box even once and even >> customers complained about the smell in the adoption >> center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places >> but especially at the store because people would not go in >> to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a >> regular basis. >> >> For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large >> Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end >> so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator >> b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We also use a >> low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and >> most of our cats are 12 and up. >> >> Edna >> >> >> > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 >> > From: athenapities...@gmail.com >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> > >> > Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, >> Sweat Scoop. It got >> > good online reviews. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline >> Pine - has anyone used it >> > > before? >> > > >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I us Totes too. Our shelter has them in the "Frat House" room where their are a bunch of boys who make a mess. We had to put a tray under their water bowls too because they always had water all over the floor. Beth MaiMaiPG wrote: >Totes are wonderful. I leave the top off and the boys are young >enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are >wonderful too. I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who, >late in life, had issues getting positioned. Besides the totes are a >lot cheaper and more appropriately sized. FYI: They make great >outdoor shelters too. >On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > >> >> I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" >> however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I >> will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have >> used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used >> to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd >> awful after they had used the box even once and even customers >> complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go >> back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because >> people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was >> scooped on a regular basis. >> >> For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large >> Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats >> can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from >> peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our >> cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. >> >> Edna >> >> >>> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 >>> From: athenapities...@gmail.com >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> >>> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. >>> It got >>> good online reviews. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone >>>> used it >>>> before? >>>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter dangers
Yes, I've used "Dumor" brand "Starter/Grower Chick Feed". I get it from Tractor Supply Co., think it was $13.00 for 50lbs? last time I got it. It's a bit of a hike to TSC, so I don't always use it. Plus. my husband complains that it doesn't handle odor well enough. Pros: 1.price 2.low dust 3.biodegradable 4.doesn't come from strip mining. 5.safer. Cons: 1.odor control 2.doesn't clump as hard as clay 3.doesn't sift as easily as clay 4.some people have problems with weevils in it, especially in summer. Overall I like it, especially after paying 40-50 bucks for a much smaller bag of World's Best, which is pretty similar. Hope this helps, Beth N. On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Lorrie wrote: > I've often wondered and worried about this chemical stuff in > the clumping litter. A friend of mine uses ground chicken corn. > Have any of you tried this? She says it's not only safer but > much less expensive. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Just like humans, one man's trash is another man's treasure. Lynda Wilson wrote: > You're right, but my cat loved it. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Yes, I have tried it - it costs a lot more than just good old plain > > probiotics/acidophilus and cats immediately detect it in the food - won't > > touch it! I think it's just one more way for the company and vets to make > > money on a product "specifically" for cats. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson > > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:14 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Have you tried Fortiflora? > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Natalie" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:34 AM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > >> The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any > >> renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and > >> poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+ > >> Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's "aroma" - and her litter box is in a > >> bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway. > >> None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop. I do sprinkle some > >> acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, > >> it's > >> NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream > >> consistency! > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >> > >> > >> I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up > >> in > >> the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as > >> soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to > >> find > >> which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I > >> put > >> everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat > >> anymore > >> anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio > >> door > >> wide open to get the smell out. > >> > >> He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard > >> that > >> it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something > >> else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny > >> poops? > >> > >> > >> "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that > >> are > >> profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > >> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > >> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > >> Twain > >> > >> > >>> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 > >>> From: at...@optonline.net > >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of > >> her > >>> poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night > >>> until > >>> she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the > >>> International smelliest poop contest! > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM > >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> > >>> Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly > >>> poop! His name is Sugar after all. > >>> > >>> Just kidding. I
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Mine prefer outside unless it is bad weather or very hot. They go to the woods for a couple of mice, voles, moles or shrews, do their business and come back to the deck where their water bowl is, find a comfortable spot and take a nap. Lorrie wrote: > I used it a few years ago. My cats liked the Feline Pine that was > shredded up and scoopable, but they refused to use the pellets. > > The Wheat litter is good but too expensive when you have as many > cats as I have. Fortunately my cats only use their litter boxes > at night when they are inside, or during the winter. Otherwise they > prefer going outside to do their biz. We have a couple of acres of > woods around our house and no traffic so it's safe for them. > > > Lorrie > > On 07-08, Katy Doyle wrote: > > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it > > before? > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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A lot of people tell me that. Does that say something about the way they are being treated ? If you are going to have cats and litter boxes and a family, then you have to keep them scooped. Just one of the prices we pay for cats. Lynda Wilson wrote: > Yes it is the best compliment, Maureen rocks! > > Wow! You are diligent keeping those litter boxes cleaned out. I bet your > kitties love you more for that! Lorrie, what a caring and loving person you > are to have 15 cats! I would have that many if I did not have a husband, > lol! (Note: my husband has told me several times through the years that if > there is such a thing as reincarnation, then he wants to come back as one of > my cats!). I bet ppl say the same to you :) > - Original Message - > From: "Lorrie" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter > > > > That's the best compliment ever. A friend recently came in > > my house and said she couldn't even tell I had cats, and I have > > 15, so I must be scooping the litter boxes often enough. > > > > On 07-08, Maureen Olvey wrote: > >> > >> If your friends come to your house and leave rather quickly then it > >> might smell. But if they stay and visit for a while then you're > >> probably good ;-) Especially if you have friends that don't have > >> pets, they can't tolerate the smell for long. > >> > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Guess I have a stronger stomach, but then I was the one who could go from disecting a frog into the cafeteria and eat lunch. "molvey...@hotmail.com" wrote: > That's just not right to mention ice cream and cat poop in the same sentence! > > I was kind of hoping it was the FIV but if not I need to look into it. > Thanks for mentioning the probiotics. Maybe I'll try it. > > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC > > - Reply message - > From: "Natalie" > Date: Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:34 am > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > To: > > The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any > renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and > poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+ > Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's "aroma" - and her litter box is in a > bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway. > None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop. I do sprinkle some > acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's > NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up in > the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as > soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find > which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I put > everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat anymore > anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door > wide open to get the smell out. > > He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard that > it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something > else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny > poops? > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 > > From: at...@optonline.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of > her > > poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until > > she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the > > International smelliest poop contest! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly > > poop! His name is Sugar after all. > > > > Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, > > couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my > > first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. > > > > It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different > > kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so > > confusing though. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's just not right to mention ice cream and cat poop in the same sentence! I was kind of hoping it was the FIV but if not I need to look into it. Thanks for mentioning the probiotics. Maybe I'll try it. sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: "Natalie" Date: Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:34 am Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = To: The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+ Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's "aroma" - and her litter box is in a bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway. None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop. I do sprinkle some acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up in the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I put everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat anymore anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door wide open to get the smell out. He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard that it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny poops? "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her > poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until > she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the > International smelliest poop contest! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly > poop! His name is Sugar after all. > > Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, > couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my > first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. > > It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different > kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so > confusing though. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes it is the best compliment, Maureen rocks! Wow! You are diligent keeping those litter boxes cleaned out. I bet your kitties love you more for that! Lorrie, what a caring and loving person you are to have 15 cats! I would have that many if I did not have a husband, lol! (Note: my husband has told me several times through the years that if there is such a thing as reincarnation, then he wants to come back as one of my cats!). I bet ppl say the same to you :) - Original Message - From: "Lorrie" To: Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter That's the best compliment ever. A friend recently came in my house and said she couldn't even tell I had cats, and I have 15, so I must be scooping the litter boxes often enough. On 07-08, Maureen Olvey wrote: If your friends come to your house and leave rather quickly then it might smell. But if they stay and visit for a while then you're probably good ;-) Especially if you have friends that don't have pets, they can't tolerate the smell for long. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sodium bentonite is a real danger - the other stuff, not so much, may just be irritating and dusty. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 9:16 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter dangers I've often wondered and worried about this chemical stuff in the clumping litter. A friend of mine uses ground chicken corn. Have any of you tried this? She says it's not only safer but much less expensive. Lorrie > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > cancer. > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung problems > like the ones mentioned above. > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not Let > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat from > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form a > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's the best compliment ever. A friend recently came in my house and said she couldn't even tell I had cats, and I have 15, so I must be scooping the litter boxes often enough. On 07-08, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > If your friends come to your house and leave rather quickly then it > might smell. But if they stay and visit for a while then you're > probably good ;-) Especially if you have friends that don't have > pets, they can't tolerate the smell for long. > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I used it a few years ago. My cats liked the Feline Pine that was shredded up and scoopable, but they refused to use the pellets. The Wheat litter is good but too expensive when you have as many cats as I have. Fortunately my cats only use their litter boxes at night when they are inside, or during the winter. Otherwise they prefer going outside to do their biz. We have a couple of acres of woods around our house and no traffic so it's safe for them. Lorrie On 07-08, Katy Doyle wrote: > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it > before? > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I've often wondered and worried about this chemical stuff in the clumping litter. A friend of mine uses ground chicken corn. Have any of you tried this? She says it's not only safer but much less expensive. Lorrie > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > cancer. > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung problems > like the ones mentioned above. > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not Let > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat from > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form a > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On 07-08, MaiMaiPG wrote: > There is 124 acres to put it on. Poop gets pitched into unused > fields--far from the house. I can't see a difference between theirs > and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey > etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust. It may sound gross but > it really isn't Absolutely no worse than the poop from all the other woodland animals. It's all organic and biodegradable. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You're right, but my cat loved it. - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Yes, I have tried it - it costs a lot more than just good old plain probiotics/acidophilus and cats immediately detect it in the food - won't touch it! I think it's just one more way for the company and vets to make money on a product "specifically" for cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Have you tried Fortiflora? - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+ Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's "aroma" - and her litter box is in a bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway. None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop. I do sprinkle some acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up in the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I put everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat anymore anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door wide open to get the smell out. He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard that it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny poops? "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the International smelliest poop contest! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly poop! His name is Sugar after all. Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so confusing though. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter > boxes in > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home in > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as > the cats. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Edna Taylor" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > I tried to respond earli
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Yes, I have tried it - it costs a lot more than just good old plain probiotics/acidophilus and cats immediately detect it in the food - won't touch it! I think it's just one more way for the company and vets to make money on a product "specifically" for cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Have you tried Fortiflora? - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any > renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and > poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+ > Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's "aroma" - and her litter box is in a > bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway. > None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop. I do sprinkle some > acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's > NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up > in > the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as > soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to > find > which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I > put > everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat anymore > anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door > wide open to get the smell out. > > He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard > that > it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something > else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny > poops? > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 >> From: at...@optonline.net >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> >> We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of > her >> poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night >> until >> she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the >> International smelliest poop contest! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> >> >> Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly >> poop! His name is Sugar after all. >> >> Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, >> couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my >> first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. >> >> It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different >> kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so >> confusing though. >> >> >> "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that >> are >> profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon >> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark >> Twain >> >> >> > From: longhornf...@verizon.net >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> > >> > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter >> > boxes >> in >> > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to
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Have you tried Fortiflora? - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+ Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's "aroma" - and her litter box is in a bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway. None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop. I do sprinkle some acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up in the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I put everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat anymore anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door wide open to get the smell out. He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard that it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny poops? "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the International smelliest poop contest! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly poop! His name is Sugar after all. Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so confusing though. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter > boxes in > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home in > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as > the cats. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Edna Taylor" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" > > however, I > > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again > > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at > > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used > > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in > > the > > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > > especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats > > due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basi
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I don't like that one, eater - I just add baking soda to refresh the litter and over wet areas where the litter was removed - it helps a lot! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I fond the Arm & Hammer to be extremely dusty, also a litter that said it was made from desert sand. Krger carried it. I got one box and tried it in one of the boxes. Threw it out the next day. The cats and I were sneezing and I found a fine coat of dust all over my room. Cindy McHugh wrote: > Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just > checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an > ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All > Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and > haven't opened/tried it yet. > > I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use > something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting > so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - > not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular > litter and baking soda. > > Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I > know who are using the clumping litter. > > Cindy > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > > friends > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > > cancer. > > > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > > in > > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > > expands > > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > > problems > > like the ones mentioned above. > > > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > > Let > > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > > from > > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form > > a > > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from > > recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your > > pet. > > You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If > > you're > > worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda i
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The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+ Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's "aroma" - and her litter box is in a bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway. None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop. I do sprinkle some acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up in the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I put everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat anymore anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door wide open to get the smell out. He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard that it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny poops? "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her > poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until > she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the > International smelliest poop contest! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly > poop! His name is Sugar after all. > > Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, > couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my > first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. > > It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different > kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so > confusing though. > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes > in > > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home > in > > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in > > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as > > the cats. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Edna Taylor" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I > > > > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again > > > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at > > > > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > > > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used > > > > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the > > > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > > >
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When I was caring for a feral colony, I got a bunch of the styrofoam coolers that steaks were shipped in, cut a small hole in one side, anchored the top, and put them out for shelters in the winter. The cats used them and they lasted a long time. Cindy - Original Message - From: "MaiMaiPG" To: Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Those would make nice outdoor shelters...weighted of course. On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:30 PM, wrote: Styrofoam? Harley and Dee would make hash out of them in no time. If it resist the claws, it gets clawed to death. Natalie wrote: Are they called "totes"? I use large Styrofoam containers to ship chemo to hospitals - a friend is an oncology nurse practitioner and saves them for us. They're larger than Styrofoam coolers, sturdier, and already insulated. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Totes are wonderful. I leave the top off and the boys are young enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are wonderful too. I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who, late in life, had issues getting positioned. Besides the totes are a lot cheaper and more appropriately sized. FYI: They make great outdoor shelters too. On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. Edna Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 From: athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got good online reviews. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it before? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Those would make nice outdoor shelters...weighted of course. On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:30 PM, > wrote: Styrofoam? Harley and Dee would make hash out of them in no time. If it resist the claws, it gets clawed to death. Natalie wrote: Are they called "totes"? I use large Styrofoam containers to ship chemo to hospitals - a friend is an oncology nurse practitioner and saves them for us. They're larger than Styrofoam coolers, sturdier, and already insulated. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Totes are wonderful. I leave the top off and the boys are young enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are wonderful too. I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who, late in life, had issues getting positioned. Besides the totes are a lot cheaper and more appropriately sized. FYI: They make great outdoor shelters too. On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. Edna Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 From: athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got good online reviews. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it before? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have a FIV kitty without runny poop. From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 8, 2011 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up in the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I put everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat anymore anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door wide open to get the smell out. He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard that it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny poops? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her > poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until > she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the > International smelliest poop contest! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly > poop! His name is Sugar after all. > > Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, > couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my > first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. > > It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different > kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so > confusing though. > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes > in > > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home > in > > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in > > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as > > the cats. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Edna Taylor" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I > > > > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again > > > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at > > > > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > > > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used > > > > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the > > > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > > > especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats > > > due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. > > > > > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid > > > Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out > > > > and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We > > > also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of > > > our cats are 12 and up. > > > > > &g
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Forgot to mention tat I have 2 litter boxes in my bedroom and no ODOR PRBLEM. eITHER THAT OR MY SINUSES ARE CLOGGED UP. Cindy McHugh wrote: > Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just > checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an > ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All > Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and > haven't opened/tried it yet. > > I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use > something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting > so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - > not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular > litter and baking soda. > > Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I > know who are using the clumping litter. > > Cindy > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > > friends > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > > cancer. > > > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > > in > > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > > expands > > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > > problems > > like the ones mentioned above. > > > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > > Let > > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > > from > > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form > > a > > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from > > recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your > > pet. > > You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If > > you're > > worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the > > litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors > > instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that > > has a filter for odor control. > > > > Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty > > litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be > > saving the health or life of an animal. > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I fond the Arm & Hammer to be extremely dusty, also a litter that said it was made from desert sand. Krger carried it. I got one box and tried it in one of the boxes. Threw it out the next day. The cats and I were sneezing and I found a fine coat of dust all over my room. Cindy McHugh wrote: > Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just > checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an > ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All > Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and > haven't opened/tried it yet. > > I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use > something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting > so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - > not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular > litter and baking soda. > > Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I > know who are using the clumping litter. > > Cindy > > > - Original Message - > From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > > friends > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > > cancer. > > > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > > in > > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > > expands > > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > > problems > > like the ones mentioned above. > > > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > > Let > > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > > from > > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form > > a > > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from > > recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your > > pet. > > You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If > > you're > > worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the > > litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors > > instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that > > has a filter for odor control. > > > > Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty > > litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be >
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Natalie wrote: > We get our litter at Walmart - cheapest there, even though we get a discount > at PetSmart. > The problem is that they are still pushing and selling all kinds of clumping > litter as if it were something special for your beloved cats! > My husband bought a small fabric toy for the cats, and I decided to read the > label: It said to be careful, make sure that cats don't tear the fabric and > eat the contents because it could cause serious injury or death! Mad in > China, and who oversees the safety of things coming in? AT TIMES, I > THINK NO ONE IS CHECKING. I JUST DO NOT TRUST ANYONE SO I READ LABELS ON > EVERYTHING. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:33 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. > Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. > What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long > time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps > the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco, > > they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well, > > but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy. > > Thanks so much :) > Lynda > - Original Message - > From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > > friends > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > > cancer. > > > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > > in > > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > > expands > > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > > problems > > like the ones mentioned above. > > > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > > Let > > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > > from > > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form > > > a > > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from > > recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your > > pet. > > You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If > > you're > > worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
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I have gotten very parinoid about everything made for pets. Especially since I found that my guys were upchucking all the time because of the corn, wheat or soy in their food (Science Diet). I switched to Blue Buffalo Duck and no more upchucks except for Casey when I forget to give her additional hairball meds. She has long Persian like fur, very silky, fine and she is a meticulous groomer. Natalie wrote: > We get our litter at Walmart - cheapest there, even though we get a discount > at PetSmart. > The problem is that they are still pushing and selling all kinds of clumping > litter as if it were something special for your beloved cats! > My husband bought a small fabric toy for the cats, and I decided to read the > label: It said to be careful, make sure that cats don't tear the fabric and > eat the contents because it could cause serious injury or death! Mad in > China, and who oversees the safety of things coming in? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:33 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. > Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. > What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long > time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps > the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco, > > they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well, > > but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy. > > Thanks so much :) > Lynda > - Original Message - > From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > > friends > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > > cancer. > > > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > > in > > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > > expands > > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > > problems > > like the ones mentioned above. > > > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > > Let > > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > > from > > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form > > > a > > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are ma
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What about natural alternatives? Try the Only Natural Pet store on line. They have a great Chinese herbal that I used for Homey when she had her crystal problem. Maureen Olvey wrote: > > Oh - since you guys mentioned asthma I just wanted to throw out there that if > any of your kitties ever develop asthma there is a wonderful feline asthma > group. The people on that list know more about it than a lot of vets because > it's not that common and they've had years of experience with it. I have a > cat with asthma and with their help I got him on inhaled medications, same > kind that humans use, and it's wonderful and keeps his asthma under control. > Not nearly as hard on the body as prednisone or other steroids which is how > asthma in cats is usually controlled. Lots of vets have not had experience > with using inhaled medications (Flovent) on cats so they either tell owners > to put their cats on prednisone or steriod shots for the rest of their life. > Or the vets that know about inhaled meds for cats will start them on the > lowest dosage of Flovent and then when it doesn't help the asthma the vet > thinks inhaled meds doesn't work for cats. This asthma group is great and > can help get a kitty on the right dosage and give you lots of tips to get > them used to using the Aerokat to do the inhaled treatments. > > I also use an online pharmacy called 4 Corners which is located in New > Zealand, to get the meds. It's one third of the cost as the drugs in the U.S. > > Anyway, just wanted you guys to know so if you ever need help with an asthma > kitty go straight to that group. I don't know what I would have done without > them. My vet knew about asthma and even gave me an Aerokat but she didn't > think it was easy to get a cat to take inhaled meds so she just recommended a > steroid shot every 6 weeks. Thank God I found the group. > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:51:15 -0400 > > From: at...@optonline.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > That's because we assume that everything we buy must be safe for them! > > It's a shame that we have to be so suspicious of everything and question > > every bit of info! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:40 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Wow... You know, the dusty clay litter gives me asthma attacks, I'm ashamed > > that I never thought of how it would affect my cats. > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Lynda Wilson > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. > > > Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. > > > What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long > > > time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps > > > the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not > > Petco, > > > they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as > > well, > > > but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy. > > > > > > Thanks so much :) > > > Lynda > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > >> > > >> The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > >> > > >> Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > >> > > >> Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > > >> Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > > >> friends > > >> including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > > >> cancer. > > >> > > >> Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and hel
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Go on their website, they should be able to tell you a store near you that carries it. MaiMaiPG wrote: > I like it a lot. My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural > thing for them. I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it > around trees or compost it. > On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > > > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone > > used it > > before? > > > > I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in > > my > > town. > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > >> Same here - I might try it on a very small group. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda > >> Wilson > >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >> > >> I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But > >> I won't > >> switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! > >> > >> good to know, thanks for sharing! > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Terri Brown" > >> To: > >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >> > >> > >>> Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. > >>> Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this > >>> > >>> I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the > >>> switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any > >>> litter box > >>> odors. > >>> > >>> Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. > >>> > >>> =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori > >>> and 6 > >>> furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi > >>> =^..^= > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> > >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> > >>> Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I > >>> just > >>> checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an > >>> ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium > >>> Choice All > >>> Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies > >>> Plus > >>> and > >>> haven't opened/tried it yet. > >>> > >>> I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I > >>> used to > >>> use > >>> something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was > >>> getting > >>> so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping > >>> clay - > >>> not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using > >>> regular > >>> litter and baking soda. > >>> > >>> Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to > >>> others > >>> I > >>> know who are using the clumping litter. > >>> > >>> Cindy > >>> > >>> > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> > >>> To: > >>> mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> > >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM > >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> > >>>> Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > >>>> > >>>> The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners > >>>> Trust > >>> Most > >>>> > >>>> Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > >>>> > >>>> Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to > >>> litter. > >>>> Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our > >>>> feline > >>>> friends
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I just have 25 acres nd I just walk down the grvel roa and into the woods a it. I have never noticed any smell coming from the area I dump it in. It is made from ground up corn (World's Best Cat Litter) so the clumps break down in the rain and the dung beetles, etc take care of the rest of it. My guys love it so I am sticking with it. I tried the Feline Pine (pellets) and we wanted nothing to do with it. Same with the Sweat. Wehad more out of the box problems than ever. MaiMaiPG wrote: > There is 124 acres to put it on. Poop gets pitched into unused > fields--far from the house. I can't see a difference between theirs > and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey > etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust. It may sound gross but > it really isn't > > On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > You throw it outside? Not the poop, though, do you? > > I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the > > pee! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > I like it a lot. My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural > > thing for them. I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it > > around trees or compost it. > > On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > > > >> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone > >> used it > >> before? > >> > >> I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in > >> my > >> town. > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> > >>> Same here - I might try it on a very small group. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda > >>> Wilson > >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM > >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But > >>> I won't > >>> switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! > >>> > >>> good to know, thanks for sharing! > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Terri Brown" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>> > >>> > >>>> Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. > >>>> Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this > >>>> > >>>> I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making > >>>> the > >>>> switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any > >>>> litter box > >>>> odors. > >>>> > >>>> Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. > >>>> > >>>> =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori > >>>> and 6 > >>>> furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and > >>>> Sammi > >>>> =^..^= > >>>> - Original Message - > >>>> From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> > >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > >>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I > >>>> just > >>>> checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have > >>>> an > >>>> ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium > >>>> Choice All > >>>> Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies > >>>> Plus > >>>> and > >>>> haven't opened/tried it yet. > >>>> > >>>> I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I > >>>> used to > >>>> use
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Styrofoam? Harley and Dee would make hash out of them in no time. If it resist the claws, it gets clawed to death. Natalie wrote: > Are they called "totes"? > I use large Styrofoam containers to ship chemo to hospitals - a friend is an > oncology nurse practitioner and saves them for us. They're larger than > Styrofoam coolers, sturdier, and already insulated. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:08 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > Totes are wonderful. I leave the top off and the boys are young > enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are > wonderful too. I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who, > late in life, had issues getting positioned. Besides the totes are a > lot cheaper and more appropriately sized. FYI: They make great > outdoor shelters too. > On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" > > however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I > > will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have > > used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used > > to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd > > awful after they had used the box even once and even customers > > complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go > > back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because > > people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was > > scooped on a regular basis. > > > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large > > Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats > > can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from > > peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our > > cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. > > > > Edna > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > >> From: athenapities...@gmail.com > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >> > >> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. > >> It got > >> good online reviews. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone > >>> used it > >>> before? > >>> > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I had tried Feline Pine, but it does not scoop very well, especially with Dee, she covers and covers again and ten again until she destroys the clumps. I have been using World's Best Cat Litter. You can find it at Petsmart or Tractor supply. It is made fromcorn, clumps great (even with Dee doing her best to destroy the clumps) and holds down the odor. With 7 cats, I use the Multi Ca formula. If you want, you can add some baking soda or cedar to the litter. Of course, I scoop the boxes 2 times a day and sometimes 3 times. Then you have Harley, who sometimes passes gas when he gets excited. Get out the clothspins time then. The best thing about World's Best, is that it is okay to put in the compost or just pick a spot with lots of leaves, add a bit of sand and each day put the litter there and cover it. Dung beetles, etc. will take care of the rest of it. I do not have any smell around the house. Natalie wrote: > We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her > poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until > she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the > International smelliest poop contest! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly > poop! His name is Sugar after all. > > Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, > couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my > first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. > > It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different > kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so > confusing though. > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes > in > > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home > in > > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in > > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as > > the cats. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Edna Taylor" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I > > > > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again > > > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at > > > > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > > > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used > > > > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the > > > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > > > especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats > > > due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. > > > > > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid > > > Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out > > > > and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We > > > also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of > > > our cats are 12 and up. > > > > > > Edna > > > > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > > >> From: athenapities...@gmail.com > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > >> > > >> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It > > >> got > > >> good online reviews. > > >> > &g
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Maureen, For the short time I had Crash, he had very loose stools and the fumes when he had a BM, could take the paint off the walls! He had coccidia as you know when he was very young. Then he tested positive for FeLV. But before we knew this, my vet had put him on Royal Canin Feline High Energy Gastro-Intestinal (HE30) dry food and it worked well for him. His stools became formed but not near as stinky but still somewhat soft. It was not perfect, but it certainly was an improvement. See if this will work for yours as well. Poop smells anyway, but when it practically takes the wallpaper/paint off, then you have to try something. Good luck! L - Original Message - From: "Maureen Olvey" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up in the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I put everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat anymore anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door wide open to get the smell out. He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard that it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny poops? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the International smelliest poop contest! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly poop! His name is Sugar after all. Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so confusing though. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes in > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at > home in > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) > in > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well > as > the cats. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Edna Taylor" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, > > I > > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try > > again > > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine > > at > > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had > > used > > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the > > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > > especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the > > cats > > due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. > > > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid > > Totes. Frank cuts a large hole i
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I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat. It has actually woken me up in the middle of the night. It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find which litterbox he used and cover it immediately. Even if I'm eating I put everything down and go take care of it. It's not like I could eat anymore anyway! Yuck. Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door wide open to get the smell out. He's always had runny poop too. Think it's cause of the FIV? I heard that it can have that effect on them. But then I wondered if it's something else. Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny poops? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her > poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until > she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the > International smelliest poop contest! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly > poop! His name is Sugar after all. > > Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, > couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my > first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. > > It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different > kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so > confusing though. > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes > in > > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home > in > > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in > > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as > > the cats. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Edna Taylor" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I > > > > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again > > > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at > > > > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > > > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used > > > > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the > > > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > > > especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats > > > due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. > > > > > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid > > > Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out > > > > and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We > > > also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of > > > our cats are 12 and up. > > > > > > Edna > > > > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > > >> From: athenapities...@gmail.com > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >
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We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the International smelliest poop contest! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly poop! His name is Sugar after all. Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so confusing though. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes in > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home in > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as > the cats. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Edna Taylor" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I > > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again > > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at > > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used > > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the > > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > > especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats > > due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. > > > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid > > Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out > > and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We > > also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of > > our cats are 12 and up. > > > > Edna > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > >> From: athenapities...@gmail.com > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >> > >> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It > >> got > >> good online reviews. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used > >> > it > >> > before? > >> > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Are they called "totes"? I use large Styrofoam containers to ship chemo to hospitals - a friend is an oncology nurse practitioner and saves them for us. They're larger than Styrofoam coolers, sturdier, and already insulated. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Totes are wonderful. I leave the top off and the boys are young enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are wonderful too. I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who, late in life, had issues getting positioned. Besides the totes are a lot cheaper and more appropriately sized. FYI: They make great outdoor shelters too. On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" > however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I > will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have > used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used > to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd > awful after they had used the box even once and even customers > complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go > back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because > people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was > scooped on a regular basis. > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large > Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats > can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from > peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our > cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. > > Edna > > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 >> From: athenapities...@gmail.com >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> >> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. >> It got >> good online reviews. >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle >> wrote: >> >>> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone >>> used it >>> before? >>> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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If your friends come to your house and leave rather quickly then it might smell. But if they stay and visit for a while then you're probably good ;-) Especially if you have friends that don't have pets, they can't tolerate the smell for long. I bet Sugar is something else. I've got one that doesn't think her poop smells either. Her name is Spaz and she lives up to it every day. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:39:04 -0500 > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > You are right Maureen, I can almost compare it to walking down the cereal > isle in the grocery store, lol! There are too many choices of cat litters > but they are finicky, right?! You may think that we are just used to the > smell, but many of my friends are honest and outspoken. They say they can't > tell I have cats, so I'm assuming they are being honest. Hopefully they > really are! I don't want my house to smell like a ginormous litter box. > > Sugar does not think his poop stinks, so why should I, right?! Lol!! He's a > keeper!! > > > - Original Message - > From: "Maureen Olvey" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly > poop! His name is Sugar after all. > > Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, > couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my > first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. > > It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different > kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so > confusing though. > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark > Twain > > > > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes > > in > > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home > > in > > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in > > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as > > the cats. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Edna Taylor" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I > > > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again > > > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at > > > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > > > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used > > > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the > > > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > > > especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats > > > due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. > > > > > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid > > > Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out > > > and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We > > > also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of > > > our cats are 12 and up. > > > > > > Edna > > > > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > > >> From: athenapities...@gmail.com > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > >> > > >> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop.
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You are right Maureen, I can almost compare it to walking down the cereal isle in the grocery store, lol! There are too many choices of cat litters but they are finicky, right?! You may think that we are just used to the smell, but many of my friends are honest and outspoken. They say they can't tell I have cats, so I'm assuming they are being honest. Hopefully they really are! I don't want my house to smell like a ginormous litter box. Sugar does not think his poop stinks, so why should I, right?! Lol!! He's a keeper!! - Original Message - From: "Maureen Olvey" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly poop! His name is Sugar after all. Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so confusing though. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes in a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home in an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as the cats. - Original Message - From: "Edna Taylor" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats > due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid > Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out > and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We > also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of > our cats are 12 and up. > > Edna > > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 >> From: athenapities...@gmail.com >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> >> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It >> got >> good online reviews. >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle >> wrote: >> >> > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used >> > it >> > before? >> > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly poop! His name is Sugar after all. Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my first cat about 6 or 7 years ago. It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so confusing though. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes in > a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home in > an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in > our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as > the cats. > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Edna Taylor" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I > > noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again > > (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at > > home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their > > Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used > > the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the > > adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but > > especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats > > due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. > > > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid > > Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out > > and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We > > also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of > > our cats are 12 and up. > > > > Edna > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > >> From: athenapities...@gmail.com > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > >> > >> Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It > >> got > >> good online reviews. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used > >> > it > >> > before? > >> > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I agree Susan. I think with a couple of cats, the wheat or pine would be great but when the numbers are constantly changing and you sometimes have a Mom with kittens in a bathroom, an older litter in another room and some adults in yet another room, you have to use what keeps the smell down :) Due to fostering I have repainted the study 3 times and the guest bedroom twice. HOW can kittens get poop 4 feet up a wall??? :) Oh, best invention EVER for a foster household is a Lampe Berger (Winterwood is my fav oil). If you don't have one, I HIGHLY recommend getting a couple. They are pricey but S worth it. http://www.lampeberger.us/lampe-berger-official-website-luxury-fragrances-for-the-home > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 15:09:47 -0700 > From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I had the same experience with the feline Pine. It smells like moldy wood to > me. Bought one bag and never again. > > I think we may need to make a distinction between rescue households with a > lot of cats and a constant parade of fosters coming and going and a household > with just a few pet cats. Mine is a rescue household and I have adopters > coming too the house so I have to make sure it doesn't stink. I've been using > clumping litter for more than 10 years and we've never had a problem. (When I > fostered kittens though I used the old fashioned non-clumping clay litter > because kittens have been known to try to eat litter.) > > > > --- On Fri, 7/8/11, Edna Taylor wrote: > > > From: Edna Taylor > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:57 PM > > > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too > > large" however, I noticed that others have responded with no > > problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the > > original emails). I have used Feline Pine at home > > before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at > > their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd > > awful after they had used the box even once and even > > customers complained about the smell in the adoption > > center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places > > but especially at the store because people would not go in > > to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a > > regular basis. > > > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large > > Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end > > so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator > > b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We also use a > > low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and > > most of our cats are 12 and up. > > > > Edna > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, > > Sweat Scoop. It got > > > good online reviews. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline > > Pine - has anyone used it > > > > before? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes in a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home in an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as the cats. - Original Message - From: "Edna Taylor" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. Edna Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 From: athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got good online reviews. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used > it > before? > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I don't buy the pellets. It was too hard on my cats feet. I buy the kind that is already turned into "saw dust"it works wonders. - Original Message - From: "MaiMaiPG" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = There is 124 acres to put it on. Poop gets pitched into unused fields--far from the house. I can't see a difference between theirs and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust. It may sound gross but it really isn't On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Natalie wrote: You throw it outside? Not the poop, though, do you? I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the pee! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I like it a lot. My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural thing for them. I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it around trees or compost it. On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it before? I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my town. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: Same here - I might try it on a very small group. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! good to know, thanks for sharing! - Original Message - From: "Terri Brown" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box odors. Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and haven't opened/tried it yet. I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular litter and baking soda. Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I know who are using the clumping litter. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung cancer. Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. Damage can occur in just a short period of time. Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always safe.
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I've used Feline Pine for years! It really controls the odor and have never experienced a cat that does not like it, but I'm sure there may be some out there that don't. But mine have no problem with it :) - Original Message - From: "Katy Doyle" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it before? I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my town. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: Same here - I might try it on a very small group. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! good to know, thanks for sharing! - Original Message - From: "Terri Brown" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. > Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this > > I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the > switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box > odors. > > Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. > > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi > =^..^= > - Original Message - > From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just > checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an > ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice > All > Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies > Plus > and > haven't opened/tried it yet. > > I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to > use > something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was > getting > so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping > clay - > not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using > regular > litter and baking soda. > > Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to > others > I > know who are using the clumping litter. > > Cindy > > > - Original Message - > From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> > To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust > Most > > > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to > litter. > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > > friends > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even > lung > > cancer. > > > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat > digs > > in > > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs > and > can > > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in > jeopardy. > > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its > lungs. > > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is > one > of > > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay > to > make > > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural > clay > > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not > always > > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and > forms > a > > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's > stirring > > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it >
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I had the same experience with the feline Pine. It smells like moldy wood to me. Bought one bag and never again. I think we may need to make a distinction between rescue households with a lot of cats and a constant parade of fosters coming and going and a household with just a few pet cats. Mine is a rescue household and I have adopters coming too the house so I have to make sure it doesn't stink. I've been using clumping litter for more than 10 years and we've never had a problem. (When I fostered kittens though I used the old fashioned non-clumping clay litter because kittens have been known to try to eat litter.) --- On Fri, 7/8/11, Edna Taylor wrote: > From: Edna Taylor > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:57 PM > > I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too > large" however, I noticed that others have responded with no > problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the > original emails). I have used Feline Pine at home > before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at > their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd > awful after they had used the box even once and even > customers complained about the smell in the adoption > center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places > but especially at the store because people would not go in > to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a > regular basis. > > For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large > Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end > so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator > b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We also use a > low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and > most of our cats are 12 and up. > > Edna > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, > Sweat Scoop. It got > > good online reviews. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > > > > > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline > Pine - has anyone used it > > > before? > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Totes are wonderful. I leave the top off and the boys are young enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are wonderful too. I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who, late in life, had issues getting positioned. Besides the totes are a lot cheaper and more appropriately sized. FYI: They make great outdoor shelters too. On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. Edna Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 From: athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got good online reviews. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it before? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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It's not really gross on a large area - we couldn't - we'd smell it! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = There is 124 acres to put it on. Poop gets pitched into unused fields--far from the house. I can't see a difference between theirs and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust. It may sound gross but it really isn't On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Natalie wrote: > You throw it outside? Not the poop, though, do you? > I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the > pee! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I like it a lot. My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural > thing for them. I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it > around trees or compost it. > On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > >> Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone >> used it >> before? >> >> I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in >> my >> town. >> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: >> >>> Same here - I might try it on a very small group. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda >>> Wilson >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> >>> I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But >>> I won't >>> switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! >>> >>> good to know, thanks for sharing! >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Terri Brown" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> >>> >>>> Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. >>>> Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this >>>> >>>> I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making >>>> the >>>> switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any >>>> litter box >>>> odors. >>>> >>>> Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. >>>> >>>> =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori >>>> and 6 >>>> furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and >>>> Sammi >>>> =^..^= >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>>> >>>> >>>> Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I >>>> just >>>> checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have >>>> an >>>> ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium >>>> Choice All >>>> Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies >>>> Plus >>>> and >>>> haven't opened/tried it yet. >>>> >>>> I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I >>>> used to >>>> use >>>> something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was >>>> getting >>>> so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the >>>> clumping >>>> clay - >>>> not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using >>>> regular >>>> litter and baking soda. >>>> >>>> Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to >>>> others >>>> I >>>> know who are using the clumping litter. >>>> >>>> Cindy >>>> &
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I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as "too large" however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis. For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up. Edna > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400 > From: athenapities...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got > good online reviews. > > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > > > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it > > before? > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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There is 124 acres to put it on. Poop gets pitched into unused fields--far from the house. I can't see a difference between theirs and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust. It may sound gross but it really isn't On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Natalie wrote: You throw it outside? Not the poop, though, do you? I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the pee! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I like it a lot. My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural thing for them. I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it around trees or compost it. On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it before? I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my town. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: Same here - I might try it on a very small group. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! good to know, thanks for sharing! - Original Message - From: "Terri Brown" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box odors. Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and haven't opened/tried it yet. I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular litter and baking soda. Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I know who are using the clumping litter. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung cancer. Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. Damage can occur in just a short period of time. Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands from the moisture, and in time builds up, ca
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You throw it outside? Not the poop, though, do you? I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the pee! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I like it a lot. My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural thing for them. I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it around trees or compost it. On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone > used it > before? > > I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in > my > town. > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> Same here - I might try it on a very small group. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda >> Wilson >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> >> I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But >> I won't >> switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! >> >> good to know, thanks for sharing! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Terri Brown" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> >> >>> Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. >>> Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this >>> >>> I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the >>> switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any >>> litter box >>> odors. >>> >>> Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. >>> >>> =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori >>> and 6 >>> furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi >>> =^..^= >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> >>> >>> Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I >>> just >>> checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an >>> ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium >>> Choice All >>> Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies >>> Plus >>> and >>> haven't opened/tried it yet. >>> >>> I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I >>> used to >>> use >>> something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was >>> getting >>> so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping >>> clay - >>> not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using >>> regular >>> litter and baking soda. >>> >>> Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to >>> others >>> I >>> know who are using the clumping litter. >>> >>> Cindy >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> >>> To: >>> mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >>> >>> >>>> Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! >>>> >>>> The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners >>>> Trust >>> Most >>>> >>>> Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning >>>> >>>> Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to >>> litter. >>>> Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our >>>> feline >>>> friends >>>> including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even >>> lung >>>> cancer. >>>> >>>> Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with >>>> absorption. These c
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I like it a lot. My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural thing for them. I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it around trees or compost it. On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it before? I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my town. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: Same here - I might try it on a very small group. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! good to know, thanks for sharing! - Original Message - From: "Terri Brown" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box odors. Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and haven't opened/tried it yet. I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular litter and baking soda. Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I know who are using the clumping litter. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung cancer. Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. Damage can occur in just a short period of time. Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung problems like the ones mentioned above. Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not Let Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat from grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form a hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. Th
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Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got good online reviews. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it > before? > > I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my > town. > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> Same here - I might try it on a very small group. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> >> I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I >> won't >> switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! >> >> good to know, thanks for sharing! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Terri Brown" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> >> >> > Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. >> > Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this >> > >> > I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the >> > switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box >> > odors. >> > >> > Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. >> > >> > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 >> > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi >> > =^..^= >> > - Original Message - >> > From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> > >> > >> > Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just >> > checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an >> > ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All >> > Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus >> > and >> > haven't opened/tried it yet. >> > >> > I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to >> > use >> > something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was >> > getting >> > so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping >> > clay - >> > not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using >> regular >> > litter and baking soda. >> > >> > Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to >> others >> > I >> > know who are using the clumping litter. >> > >> > Cindy >> > >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> >> > To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> >> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM >> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = >> > >> > >> > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! >> > > >> > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust >> > Most >> > > >> > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning >> > > >> > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to >> > litter. >> > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline >> > > friends >> > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even >> > lung >> > > cancer. >> > > >> > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with >> > > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat >> > digs >> > > in >> > > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs >> and >> > can >> > > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in >> > jeopardy. >> > > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its >> > lungs. >> > > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. >> >
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Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it before? I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my town. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie wrote: > Same here - I might try it on a very small group. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't > switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! > > good to know, thanks for sharing! > - Original Message - > From: "Terri Brown" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. > > Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this > > > > I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the > > switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box > > odors. > > > > Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. > > > > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 > > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi > > =^..^= > > - Original Message - > > From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just > > checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an > > ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All > > Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus > > and > > haven't opened/tried it yet. > > > > I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to > > use > > something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was > > getting > > so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping > > clay - > > not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular > > litter and baking soda. > > > > Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others > > I > > know who are using the clumping litter. > > > > Cindy > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> > > To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > > > > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust > > Most > > > > > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > > > > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to > > litter. > > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > > > friends > > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even > > lung > > > cancer. > > > > > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > > > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat > > digs > > > in > > > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and > > can > > > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in > > jeopardy. > > > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its > > lungs. > > > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > > > > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one > > of > > > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to > > make > > > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > > > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not > > always > > > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms > > a > > > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's > > s
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Same here - I might try it on a very small group. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! good to know, thanks for sharing! - Original Message - From: "Terri Brown" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. > Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this > > I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the > switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box > odors. > > Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. > > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi > =^..^= > - Original Message - > From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just > checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an > ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All > Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus > and > haven't opened/tried it yet. > > I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to > use > something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was > getting > so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping > clay - > not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular > litter and baking soda. > > Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others > I > know who are using the clumping litter. > > Cindy > > > - Original Message - > From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> > To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust > Most > > > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to > litter. > > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > > friends > > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even > lung > > cancer. > > > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat > digs > > in > > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and > can > > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in > jeopardy. > > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its > lungs. > > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one > of > > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to > make > > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not > always > > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms > a > > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's > stirring > > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > > expands > > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > > problems > > like the ones mentioned above. > > > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > > Let > > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your > cat > > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > > from > > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting > and > > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets inges
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I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol! good to know, thanks for sharing! - Original Message - From: "Terri Brown" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box odors. Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and haven't opened/tried it yet. I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular litter and baking soda. Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I know who are using the clumping litter. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > friends > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > cancer. > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > in > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > expands > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > problems > like the ones mentioned above. > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > Let > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > from > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form > a > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from > recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your > pet. > You can find these p
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Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. Exquisicat Natural Wheat. I'm transitioning to this I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the switch well. It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box odors. Maybe give this a try. It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: Cindy McHugh<mailto:ci...@furangels.org> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and haven't opened/tried it yet. I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular litter and baking soda. Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I know who are using the clumping litter. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Natalie" mailto:at...@optonline.net>> To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > friends > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > cancer. > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > in > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > expands > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > problems > like the ones mentioned above. > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > Let > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > from > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form > a > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from > recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your > pet. > You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If > you're > worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the > litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors > instead o
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Oh - since you guys mentioned asthma I just wanted to throw out there that if any of your kitties ever develop asthma there is a wonderful feline asthma group. The people on that list know more about it than a lot of vets because it's not that common and they've had years of experience with it. I have a cat with asthma and with their help I got him on inhaled medications, same kind that humans use, and it's wonderful and keeps his asthma under control. Not nearly as hard on the body as prednisone or other steroids which is how asthma in cats is usually controlled. Lots of vets have not had experience with using inhaled medications (Flovent) on cats so they either tell owners to put their cats on prednisone or steriod shots for the rest of their life. Or the vets that know about inhaled meds for cats will start them on the lowest dosage of Flovent and then when it doesn't help the asthma the vet thinks inhaled meds doesn't work for cats. This asthma group is great and can help get a kitty on the right dosage and give you lots of tips to get them used to using the Aerokat to do the inhaled treatments. I also use an online pharmacy called 4 Corners which is located in New Zealand, to get the meds. It's one third of the cost as the drugs in the U.S. Anyway, just wanted you guys to know so if you ever need help with an asthma kitty go straight to that group. I don't know what I would have done without them. My vet knew about asthma and even gave me an Aerokat but she didn't think it was easy to get a cat to take inhaled meds so she just recommended a steroid shot every 6 weeks. Thank God I found the group. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:51:15 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > That's because we assume that everything we buy must be safe for them! > It's a shame that we have to be so suspicious of everything and question > every bit of info! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:40 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > Wow... You know, the dusty clay litter gives me asthma attacks, I'm ashamed > that I never thought of how it would affect my cats. > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Lynda Wilson > wrote: > > > Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. > > Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. > > What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long > > time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps > > the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not > Petco, > > they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as > well, > > but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy. > > > > Thanks so much :) > > Lynda > > > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > >> > >> The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > >> > >> Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > >> > >> Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > >> Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > >> friends > >> including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > >> cancer. > >> > >> Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > >> absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > >> in > >> the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and > can > >> wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > >> With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > >> Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > >> > >> Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > >> the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay
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This truly is scary and I've got first hand experience with how bad clumping litter can be. One of my cats had a mass of clumped litter caught between his toes which I didn't notice until I clipped his claws. (a maine coon with very furry toes) He was't even limping because of the mass. I had to end up having the vet remove it because it was so embedded. I'll have to try the ground corn cob litter again. They didn't like it at all so I'll have to mix the two for a while then gradually phase out the clumping stuff. Thanks so much for the "heads up" on this, Natalie. Valerie On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Natalie wrote: > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > cancer. > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung problems > like the ones mentioned above. > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not Let > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat from > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form a > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from > recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your pet. > You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If you're > worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the > litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors > instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that > has a filter for odor control. > > Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty > litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be > saving the health or life of an animal. > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's because we assume that everything we buy must be safe for them! It's a shame that we have to be so suspicious of everything and question every bit of info! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Wow... You know, the dusty clay litter gives me asthma attacks, I'm ashamed that I never thought of how it would affect my cats. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: > Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. > Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. > What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long > time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps > the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco, > they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well, > but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy. > > Thanks so much :) > Lynda > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! >> >> The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most >> >> Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning >> >> Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. >> Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline >> friends >> including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung >> cancer. >> >> Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with >> absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs >> in >> the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can >> wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. >> With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. >> Damage can occur in just a short period of time. >> >> Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of >> the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make >> their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay >> ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always >> safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a >> hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring >> up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it >> expands >> from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung >> problems >> like the ones mentioned above. >> >> Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not >> Let >> Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat >> from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat >> from >> grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and >> nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once >> the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could >> cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form >> a >> hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. >> >> The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping >> litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even >> dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, >> simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, >> non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from >> recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your >> pet. >> You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If >> you're >> worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the >> litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors >> instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that >> has a filter for odor control. >> >> Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty >> litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be >> saving the health or life of an animal. >> >> >> >>
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We get our litter at Walmart - cheapest there, even though we get a discount at PetSmart. The problem is that they are still pushing and selling all kinds of clumping litter as if it were something special for your beloved cats! My husband bought a small fabric toy for the cats, and I decided to read the label: It said to be careful, make sure that cats don't tear the fabric and eat the contents because it could cause serious injury or death! Mad in China, and who oversees the safety of things coming in? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco, they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well, but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy. Thanks so much :) Lynda - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > friends > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > cancer. > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > in > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > expands > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > problems > like the ones mentioned above. > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > Let > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > from > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form > a > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from > recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your > pet. > You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If > you're > worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the > litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors > instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that > has a filter for odor control. > > Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty > litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be > saving the health or life of an animal. > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listin
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Wow... You know, the dusty clay litter gives me asthma attacks, I'm ashamed that I never thought of how it would affect my cats. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: > Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. > Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. > What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long > time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps > the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco, > they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well, > but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy. > > Thanks so much :) > Lynda > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > > > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! >> >> The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most >> >> Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning >> >> Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. >> Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline >> friends >> including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung >> cancer. >> >> Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with >> absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs >> in >> the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can >> wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. >> With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. >> Damage can occur in just a short period of time. >> >> Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of >> the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make >> their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay >> ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always >> safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a >> hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring >> up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it >> expands >> from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung >> problems >> like the ones mentioned above. >> >> Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not >> Let >> Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat >> from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat >> from >> grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and >> nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once >> the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could >> cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form >> a >> hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. >> >> The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping >> litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even >> dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, >> simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, >> non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from >> recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your >> pet. >> You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If >> you're >> worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the >> litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors >> instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that >> has a filter for odor control. >> >> Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty >> litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be >> saving the health or life of an animal. >> >> >> >> >> __**_ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/**mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_** >> felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> >> >> > > > __**_ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/**mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_**felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Cindy, ONLY clumping litter would contain sodium bentonite - the regular kitty litter clays just have dust which can be irritating but not as deadly! Many people believe that because clumping litter is so much more expensive, it must be good! There used to be a holistic cat magazine, Tiger Tribe, when they folded, I purchased all their back copies. They researched clumping litter, and were told by manufacturers that the old adage "buyer beware" should always be applied! DUH! Don't you think that when one purchases something for one's pets, one wouldn't have to check its safety? Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cindy McHugh Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and haven't opened/tried it yet. I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular litter and baking soda. Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I know who are using the clumping litter. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = > Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! > > The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most > > Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning > > Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. > Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline > friends > including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung > cancer. > > Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with > absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs > in > the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can > wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. > With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. > Damage can occur in just a short period of time. > > Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of > the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make > their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay > ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always > safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a > hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring > up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it > expands > from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung > problems > like the ones mentioned above. > > Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not > Let > Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat > from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat > from > grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and > nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once > the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could > cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form > a > hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. > > The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping > litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even > dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, > simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, > non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from > recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your > pet. > You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If > you're > worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the > litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors > instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that > has a filter for odor control. > > Now that you know
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Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco, they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well, but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy. Thanks so much :) Lynda - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung cancer. Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. Damage can occur in just a short period of time. Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung problems like the ones mentioned above. Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not Let Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat from grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form a hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your pet. You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If you're worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that has a filter for odor control. Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be saving the health or life of an animal. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and haven't opened/tried it yet. I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use something by Arm & Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular litter and baking soda. Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I know who are using the clumping litter. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter = Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung cancer. Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. Damage can occur in just a short period of time. Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung problems like the ones mentioned above. Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not Let Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat from grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form a hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your pet. You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If you're worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that has a filter for odor control. Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be saving the health or life of an animal. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg! The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter. Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung cancer. Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy. With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs. Damage can occur in just a short period of time. Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, "natural" is not always safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung problems like the ones mentioned above. Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; "Do Not Let Cat Ingest Litter". It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat from grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form a hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy, simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free, non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your pet. You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If you're worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that has a filter for odor control. Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be saving the health or life of an animal. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
